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why does no one play fighting games?

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why does no one play fighting games?
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Because they're full of shitty day one DLC and if you want to play it, your options are to either wait months for the complete edition with all the DLC included but have your ass wrecked by people on multiplayer who have been playing for months straight or buy right away and pay out the cock for the dlc.
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they're boring
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It's a huge time investment to get good at them and they're genuinely difficult.

Retards with non-arguments will now quote some part of this post followed with reaction images.
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>>377381065
>DLC DLC DLC DLC
Why don't you play old fighting games on fightcade you cuck
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THIS IS A FUCKING VIDEO
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>>377380823
I'm still waiting for a PC release for a soul calibur game.
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>>377381521

>fightcade

The hell is that? Sounds lame.
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>>377381456
Am i late to the party?
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>>377380823
I play video games to relax and have fun
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>>377381456
>at them and they're
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>>377380823
Because all the Japanese players come to America to take all the fightan money
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>>377381456
>it's a huge time investment
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Fighting games aren't fun single player. If you don't have friends to play against then you're forced to play against CPU or multiplayer. Multiplayer requires practice or you just get destroyed.

tldr fightan isn't casual enough
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>>377381747

>Japs are to fighting game tourneys as Mexicans are to manual labor jobs

I KNOW YOU'RE IN HERE

YOU GOTTA GO BACK SAMURAI JACK
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>>377380823
I have nobody to play them with locally, my Internet is third-world-tier, and even if it wasn't I imagine I'd run into triple-S hardcore players as all my opponents and get curbstomped over and over without being able to figure out what I need to do to improve just because the skill gap is so great.
That, and the Soku community died before I started playing Touhou so the fighting game I'd be most interested can't really be played, though it's probably for the best because I hear that community had a lot of people actually from the third world so putting my shitty Internet with their shitty Internet would likely be a bad idea.
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Fightan isn't fun online, and the modern convenience of the internet makes getting together to play relatively hassleful
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>>377381836


Its weird. FGs already proved the can do single player, but they don't want to try anymore.

Soul Caliber 2-3 and Alpha 3 just to game good examples where you actually have something to play by yourself.
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Because I'm too good and I always win

There is no one good enough to challenge me
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The reason they're not popular is because they're 1v1, skill-based competitive games.
Because they're skill-based, you have to actually be better than your opponent to win.
Because they're 1v1, you don't have teammates to pass of the blame to.

You're solely responsible for your losses, and that's something people do not like.

>>377381065
This is bullshit.
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>>377381456
>It's
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>>377381456
>Retards with non-arguments
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Some unfun shitter meta always comes along and absolutely kills the game for anyone who isn't a try hard. Also few fighting games have a good story mode.
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Any other reason is wrong, it's because it has an incredibly high barrier to entry. You have to learn so many skills specific to the genre that you don't learn or use in any other games. It's zero fun until you've crossed this barrier, which will likely take you months at a minimum. Smash bros is so popular because the barrier to entry is so low. You don't have to learn combos or any of that nonsense. Anyone can come in and push random buttons and have a good time.
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>>377381521
no one knows what that is
also
>why
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fighting games suck and are boring one dimensional fecal storms
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>>377381456
>a huge time
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>>377381928
Same as this anon except I've never played soku. I still try and play now and then, but I get destroyed online and actually improving is far too hard without a local scene. I have a few friends who play some fightans but they're pretty much beginners and I can't choose any mains because I win too hard and they stop playing.
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>>377380823
>too hard for shitters to commit their time and effort
>it's not a team game where they can instantly pass the blame to other people and has to rely on using LAG or using retarded logic as 'stop tryharding by picking only top tier characters' instead
>has to socialize in real life to truly enjoy it
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the only good fighting game is dark souls
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>>377382979
dark souls is literally spam R1: the game

how is that in any way good
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>>377381456
>non-arguments will now
>investment to get
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>>377383324

did you even know there's magic in the game?

i bet you didnt
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Why does nobody eat food? I have never seen anyone eat food in my life.
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>>377381456
>words
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>>377381640
>I'm still waiting for a PC release
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>>377383382
whoa magic dude \m/(-_-)\m/
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either you played them as a kid and still do, or you didn't play them and still don't.

ain't no one ever picked them up later in life. their skills would be so shit compared to the rest of the scene that they'll just give up.
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>buy sfv when it was new thinking I'll at least get matched with some new people like me to git gud on
>get completely shit canned again and again for days
>dont feel like I've gotten a tiny bit better than from when I first started
>stop playing
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shitters everywhere
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>>377380823
its shit. i rather play skullgirls or old KOF than injustice
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>>377381972
Fightcade is the answer
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There sure are a lot of shit opinions in here. I thought all the kiddies would be asleep by now.
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>>377383919

I bet that's real fun for the guy who doesn't even get a hit.

NOT

This is why fighting games are lame.
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>>377380823
They take time to learn and potential players might be too intimidated to begin learning them if it's too long after the initial release as they'd be so far behind everyone else.
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>>377380823
Fighting games are inherently flawed. To have fun with them, you have to be so good at it that you curbstomb everyone but 1% of the player base, then purposefully seek out that 1% at tournaments. If you're not a top level players, you're one of the scrubs getting shit on and there's no fun in that.
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>>377380823
Toxic community.

Extremely technical/memory/reflex based gameplay.

Hard to insert new mechanics and content into them without breaking the balance or alienating the larger fighting game community.

>>377381065
Wrong. Fighting games started dying long before DLC ever existed.
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>>377382839
>Skullgirls
>Not King of Fighters
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>>377384108
No, that's why THAT fighting game is lame.
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>>377380823
They have no single player value whatsoever, and to play multiplayer requires a lot of investment and the payoff is having to deal with meta cancer, rank autists, rage quitters and other fun sapping things. They are also exclusively competitive games where everyone isn't on leveled playing field when it comes to hardware.

Basically they are only fun if you have friends to play with.
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>>377381747
>players come to America to take all the fightan money

Unless it's Smash or MKX.
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>>377381456
>No. 377381456
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>>377380823
There's a melee tournament like every other week?
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>>377384483
I actually play kof, but I suck big time, it's the only game I actually lose most of the time against my friends. Still, I guess I could add the characters I play in it to the list.
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>>377384383
What is this, it's hilarious.
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>>377380823
Fighting games stopped being about fun and started being about "MUH COMPETITIVE"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqClOEYHBkY
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>>377384785
>They are also exclusively competitive games where everyone isn't on leveled playing field when it comes to hardware.
I don't think your playing a fighting game.
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>>377381456
>they're genuinely
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>>377385010
Danger 5
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>>377380823
They haven't done anything innovative in over 20 years.
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>>377384939
what's a melee?
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>>377385035
Fighting games are literally designed to sell fightsticks dumbass. Playing with a controller is yet another mountain to climb and in some games there are things you can do with the stick that you simply can't with a controller. The fact that fightan fags are so delusional about this will forever be hilarious to me.

Also i bet if you took a survey of what kind of people go through controllers like toilet paper the ones that regularly play fighting games with them would be at the top.
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>>377385446
>two of the best sfv players in the world right now are pad players
rmyt
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Same reason as RTS. High pressure 1 on 1 fights (no diffusing blame for losses) with a sky-high skill ceiling, a lot of non-intuitive strategies and mechanics the game does a horrible job at teaching you (and typically teaches straight up bad habits in single-player content) and a shitload of experienced veterans in the queue who will utterly destroy you so quickly and efficiently you have no chance of actually learning anything from the loss and improving yourself. People lose hope in getting good and quit.
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I was going to post how fighting games have been continuously getting easier, through mechanics, tutorials, and the community, but as far as /v/ is concerned, they're just too play dumb.
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>>377382839


>including bloody roar

thanks my nigga
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>>377385446
>fightsticks make players better
You either prefer sticks or not, this is the equivalent of thinking you're going to be better at a game just because you bought a 'gaming' mouse over a regular ass mouse
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>>377380823
It's a genre that doesn't offer instant gratification to the player. It usually requires the player to understand how the mechanics of the game works and how it applies to a character they decide to play. With it being skill-based and one-on-one, everything including victory is left up to the player and they can't be carried by a teammate or place blame on a teammate when they lose. Outside of that, the grind to getting good demotivates people as well. For new players, it takes a lot of losses for them to begin winning, but those defeats stop them from wanting to continue before reaching that threshold. For the most part, some people aren't competitive, and that's fine.

That being said. I enjoy fighting games a lot.
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>>377380823
What do you mean "no one"? There are tournaments with money prizes all the time and huge amounts of people are playing them.
Street Fighter 5 and Injustice 2 are great examples of just how popular these games are. Maybe not ASSFAGGOTS popular, but you don't need a team to be able to compete for esports bux.
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>>377385728
Yes I'm sure that there's some Nigerian with one leg that can hop really fast. What's your point?

Also 2d shit is the lowest common denominator when it comes to fighting games.
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>>377385873
Wait you can fc cancel grand viper while in dragon install? Is this one of those tool assisted arcade play throughs?
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>>377386013
fd*
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I play Blazblue. Today I spent a whole day practicing 2 combos. This is why no one likes playing fighting games. Because they get hit by fuck huge combos and they're like hell nah I'm not practicing that.
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>>377383354

>non-arguments
>reaction images
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>>377385873
This place is still stuck arguing about the shoryuken input. That won't change anytime soon.
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>>377385905
Stay delusional
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Obviously everyone here is an idiot. The real reason is that its one on one, you have no one to blame but yourself for the loss, and practice/skill wins you matches.

I go to tournaments and place highly and its still hard to force myself to play SF when I could zone out and play a 4x or something.
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>>377385947
You know, this can also apply to something like Dark Souls. Then again, in that game, there's a lot of ways to circumvent difficulty.

>>377386013
Dragon Install speeds up all of Sol's attacks, and he's using 5K, a 3-frame normal into something less than 3-frames, idk. What I think is happening is since 5K is jump cancelable, before the jumping animation, he cuts it off with FD. Then rinse and repeat.

Also, it is TAS.
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>>377381456
>Anonymous
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>>377386381
Ah I figured it was tas, I remember when they discovered you could fly as I.no by fdcing her j.d. Could only use it TAS as well, but it was funny as shit.
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>>377382043
This.
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>>377380823
Because Fighting Games have two huge barriers, the execution barrier and the knowledge barrier, which are infuriating because they're simultaneously mandatory and irrelevant. What I mean by that is that it takes a long time to be able to reliably execute everything in the game , and it takes a long time to learn everything in the game, but standard play assumes you already have these two qualities and actual gameplay and competition is more around reading your opponent, strategy, etc. Nobody is losing at mid-high level play because they didn't know what something did or they didn't get the right move they wanted to come out with a botched input.

People aren't willing to invest that kind of time, and then find out that they were two giant entry barriers before the game proper even begins and that there's huge skill variance beyond them.
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Because shitters don't have the correct mindset for improvement. People think that the only way to git gud is to play a lot, while the actual way to victory is paved by analyzing your gameplay in order to see how you lost. Shitters lose because they do random things without any real purpose behind them, and get fucked for it. Shitters lose because they don't see nor even look for mistakes their opponent makes that they can recognize and capitalize on.
What they do instead is press random attacks because that's their idea of offence, press random attacks when their opponent gets close because that's their idea of defence, press random attacks when their opponent is at range because that's their idea of spacing, and thus lose the round/game and complain that they didn't learn anything. You didn't learn anything because you didn't try to teach yourself anything nor did you try to learn from your opponent, you just tried to throw attacks out there and see if something worked.

The first step to actually gitting gud is to learn to reognize guaranteed scenarios. Learn to see when your opponent jumps at you, because that is guaranteed antiair damage. Learn to see when your opponent uses something obviously unsafe, because that is guaranteed punish damage. Learn to not commit the same mistakes, because that is opening yourself up to guaranteed damage. Instead of focusing on attacks that may or may not work, focus first on reducing the amount of randomness and uncertainty, and you will notice that your game will improve drastically. Some matches will be over before they started because your opponent keeps presenting you easy scenarios like constantly jumping or using unsafe attacks randomly, hoping something works. You know that this is easy to beat, because this is what you did when you were losing every game.
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>>377381668
>>377381727
>>377381801
>>377382190
>>377382302
>>377382529
>>377383354
>>377383471
>>377384917
>>377385041
congratulations, not only are you all self admitted retards, you all are as creative as reddit
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Girls won't fuck you if you're good at some dumb fighting game.

Learn to actually fight and that's a different matter.
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they're too hard for casual gamers

that's why

>WAAH WHY DOES HE KEEP THROWING FIREBALLS
>THIS DP INPUT IS TOO HARD
>I CAN'T WIN EVERY TIME!!!

fighting games are about practice and improvement, which are values antithetical to modern videogames

>>377381521
I do anon. I play ST.
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People need to stop treating Fighting Games like a typical video game. It's like if you bought a basketball and only played by yourself.

Sure, if you played other people, they can beat you hard, but you can also chill with your friends and have a casual game as well.
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If I asked you guys to beta test a fighting game I'm working on would you do it?
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Because /v/ are a bunch of casuals who rather jack off to waifus then actually play games
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>>377384884
We're talking about fighting games, anon. Don't change the subject
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>>377386606
yeah, once you learn to fight, they can't stop you from having sex with them
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>>377381747
>tekken 7 has been out for the orientals for 2 years
>america is finally gettin it
>they fly in and sweep floor
sounds fair. king of iron faggotry if you ask me
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>>377384785
Also, i forgot to mention, as evidenced by this thread and all the "HAHA THOSE SHITTERS AM I RITE" pretenses of superiority posts, fighting games attract cancer like cocks attract your mom. So like i said, the pay off is not worth it for new people.
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>>377386791
Show something
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>>377386791
I would. I have extensive experience beta-testing SFV for the last year and a half.
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i hate some of the top players. they are really shitheads but are protected because they are good at video games
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>>377386791
Sure, anything to keep me off this board for a bit
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>>377384884
non-americans usually win smash.
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>>377386861
>We're talking about fighting games, anon

>fighting games
>guilty gear

Pick one xD
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>>377385970
good luck getting out of pools. there hasn't been an underdog making it to top 8 in fucking years. its the same fucking shmohawks everytime and its pointless.
on top of entry fee and traveling it seems like a waste of fucking time to go and get fucking bodied by all the pros
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>>377387050
I'd feel bad about that guy if he wasn't such a faggot.

Proper response would be: Aw man, I lost a lot of games guys, was wondering if anyone would help me get better?

I use to be that kinda faggot
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>>377387050
That post is 100% on point, not even ASSFAGGOTS is as toxic and pathetic as fighting games community.
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>>377387050
He's not wrong.

Getting faggots that constantly spam a move online and feel good about themselves is just annoying, knowing that they're limp-wristed little bitches that would get dominated in a real life match that pitted their "skills" against a legitimate fighter.

People need to treat fighting games for what they are, GAMES.
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>>377380823
Because they're boring and repetitive. Once you've done 1 fight, you'll basically be repeating that forever.
>>377381640
This is the only exception I can think of because it had that story mode / progression mode, but that was years ago and no recent fighting games have done anything better to my knowledge
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>>377386601
>hey guys don't reply to this post with a quote from my it and a picture
>Oh no! People did exactly that! It's almost as if I asked for this
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>>377387282
it seemed to be mostly about online play with him, and clearly cant get into whatever hes bitching about.
i stay away from anime fighters and shit like skullgirls/marvel because of that reason because i just dont like them.

>>377387295
>>377387398
eh i dunno. i am going to get into tekken 7 and know i'm going to be ass, its the dudes who like to teabag and talk shit on new players that bothers me.
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>>377380823
There have been made some valid points here, also the community is shit and alot of people think they are tough just because they play videogames that are labeled "fighting games" which is fucking pathetic.

Just take a look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJfLKtGlfw
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>>377385994
pad use is way more widespread for 3d fighters than 2d so that was an interesting jump to make
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>>377387561
LowTierGod thinks a lot of himself, while the other dude was the one who was constantly getting shit on by LTG on streams, and to people at the Tourney.
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>>377387398
it's the lengths people go to to disrespect their opponents that never ceases to astound me.
Like yeah, taunts are to be expected, but the between game menu interactions? Crazy to me that people would do things like wait until the last second to leave or ready up just to bother someone else.
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>>377387561
then you have the pewdiepie of fgc. who "brings in newcomers" but yet with its current community, its not very welcoming. they would rather still just watch some guy play a fighting game than play themselves
. fighting game players are usually faggots too, so its always going to be the top dudes/pro circlejerk.

they need to just stop trying to bring new people into fighting games. its either you played them your whole life or you're shit out of luck getting anywhere
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>>377385759

Fuck, I wanted to play SC2 so bad but the Find Match button intimated me
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>>377387561
>that mentos clip

Makes me laugh every fucking time.
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>>377387692
>The default peripheral that everyone has is more widespread

You don't fucking say.
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>>377380823
The definitive answer comes down to one thing:

>People hate losing

Losing in an online game, like CS:GO, or a MOBA isn't as bad, as it's a team effort.

Losing in a Fighting Game is literally 100% on you. You lost. You got beat. It's all your fault.

This combined with the trash talking aspect of the community, makes it really shitty to play. It makes it hard for newcomers to get into, and the old boys are getting less and less invested since you need to dump hundreds of hours to get good at them.

There are other problems, character balance, DLC, but it's mostly

>1 on 1 and people hate losing
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>>377387758
>used to do pretty tame and relaxing playthroughs of decent games on YoVideogames
>Devolved hard into what he is now
Unfortunate!
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>>377383590
To be fair if you cared enough you would've eventually gotten better, but yeah, that's par for the course with fighters
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>>377387868
>losing in CSGO or a MOBA isn't as bad

The saltiest reactions I've ever seen have been specifically from those 2 games.
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>>377387758
>its either you played them your whole life or you're shit out of luck getting anywhere

And people wonder why the fgc is considered one of the worst.
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>>377387692
It's almost like this guy has no real value about what he's saying, and is only doing so to have a contrarian opinion.

On an Egyptian carving forum of all places.
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>>377387942
>To be fair if you cared enough you would've eventually gotten better

This sounds like the definitive answer to OP's question
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>>377387561
>wash the taste of my dick out of your mouth
christ that was hilarious
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>>377380823
Probably because he likes them.
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>>377388106
it really is. i got into a local fgc and i had to endure a lot of alienation for awhile because i was the new guy.
its hard to bring new people in. example would be fighting game tournaments on stream with commentary. they spout so much jargon that it will all goes right over your head. and they LOVE to talk about the players like its some fantasy football shit.

theres seriously no shortcuts or easy ways to slide right in. its either you love the games or you dont touch them.
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>>377388045
you can lose team based games until the end of time and blame your team every time
if you keep losing 1v1s, eventually you are forced to accept your own ability
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>>377380823
Because to fight is to know ones self and a lot of people aren't ready for that level of introspection.
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>>377387267
I have a feeling that a lot of people are fucking casuals and get distracted by all the other genres. Another serious reason is that not a lot of actually smart people are interested in fighting games. There has to be a reason why this genre is so densely populated by niggers. I'm considering swapping to fighting games because other genres like RTS are dead and the competition is so light.
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>>377387398
The fucking irony in this post.
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>>377388336
a lot of smart people play fighters

all the top players are asians
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>>377381456
>some part of this
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How many characters can I fit into a single post on 4chan?
This is important.
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>>377388478
at least 7
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>>377388478
420
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>>377388326
What's fucking hilarious about the fighting game community is that there's about 85% chance that this post is serious.
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>>377380823
i dont want to practice combos
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>>377381456
>they're genuinely difficult.
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>>377388478
2000.
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>>377381456
>Anonymous 05/18/17(Thu)22:03:03 No.377381456▶>>377381668 >>377381727 >>377381801 >>377382190 >>377382302 >>377382529 >>377383354 >>377383471 >>377384917 >>377385041 >>377386525
>It's a huge time investment to get good at them and they're genuinely difficult.
>Retards with non-arguments will now quote some part of this post followed with reaction images.
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>>377388478
at least 6
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>>377388336
streamer i watch once said. they aren't book smart, they arent' street smart, but they are some kind of smart.

but hes also a stoner so who knows.
niggers i guess just like to dominate others on a primal instinct so they put effort into the video game instead of committing crimes

asians are just dedicated machines.

whites are shit out of luck
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>>377380823
only non casuals play them, you underaged cunts stick with your flavour of the month twitch shit lmao
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>>377387561

This is why I don't play fighting games.

I just want to play for fun. I don't want a black screaming and yelling at me if he loses OR wins.
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thread theme
https://youtu.be/MimslO4g2yE
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>>377387758
>>377387561

> its either you played them your whole life or you're shit out of luck getting anywhere

Shouldn't you be young enough to know several SFV top players started on SFIV? You have to start somewhere.

No, it takes what millenials don't have: time, effort, and patience
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>>377380823
I don't have the skill to play them.
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>>377388587
they're smart in that they can make good guesses as to what someone else is thinking.
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>>377388543
I'm 100% percent serious. SFV changed my life and made me a stronger person.
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>>377388642
then just don't go to tournaments or locals
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>>377388679
infiltration i'm pretty sure played other fighting games before. people just like to suck capcoms cock so they think sf4 is the only fighting game during that time because it was new.
also street fighter 5 sucks ass
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>>377382839
>Mariah

If you hate yourself that much you should probably just cut out the middle man and hammer some nails into your dick. It'd probably hurt less, too.
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>>377388727
you don't happen to play For Honor by any chance do you?
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>>377388705
at last

an honest one

>>377388806
he was an 09er who played some sf2 as a kid, this makes the "OG" tryhards mad, that a lowly 09er could be better than them
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>>377388312
I blame myself when I lose a team game. Regardless of genre and the amount of people supposedly helping you, blatantly getting stomped doesn't feel good.
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>>377387758
He doesn't even really partake in competitions and shit himself does he? He seems like he's purely coasting while avoiding ever having to interact with anyone in the FGC his damn self, which is hilarious because he genuinely is the pewdiepie of the fgc. Seems kinda telling
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>>377388716
i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that they gain satisfaction from outwitting another person, the game itself isn't the fun part.

i dont even think its about fun anymore for really good fighting game players, just another way to feel good about yourself by comparing you to the person you beat. you're the winner they are the loser
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>inb4 90% of the babys crying here are too bad to even move out of non ranked matches
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>>377388867
It's a shame really, because some fighting games have very nice art/sprites (Guilty Gear, Blaz Blue), but it would take longer than I'd like to learn how to play them.
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>>377388876
I was just saying that someone who is bad at video games will stick with a team game longer, because they don't feel like it's their fault when they lose but they often will feel like they helped when they win.
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>>377388982
you'll get good, you just have to practice and be ok with getting your ass beat

I started a year ago and I'm pretty good now
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>>377380823
because they are too hard
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>>377388642
>Play Tekken Revolution because it's free
>Haven't played Tekken since 3's single player
>Meet some UHWAAAAATAAAAAH and that fucking sweep kick spamming Law player
>Beat him with some bullshit fuck huge juggle i saw on youtube

Never in my life have i had so much profanity hurled at me, that nigga was mad to the point of making me uncomfortable. I was matched against him one more time and all the match was him saying the craziest shit, then i beat him again and he literally spent the whole day sending me hate mail. Only person i ever bothered to report on PSN

That game was hilarious some times but most of he time it was nothing but frustration. I found out that online fighting games weren't for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icc6ln2wqI4
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>>377388423
>>377388587

Right, but asians don't participate in that many US/NA tournaments. I don't think there is a single other vidya genre where niggers are able to be competitive.
The genre is literally filled with human trash like stoners and lazy people so when asians that acually practice and take it seriously just come and sweep the competition away.
I wish I started SF5 when it came out instead of sperging out on SC2, but I think I'll try testing my theory anyway.
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>>377388867
i agree with you on those OG tryhards. they really like to be on that highhorse because they played a niche genre a lot longer.

self-important twats. a lot of over inflated egos and narcissism in fgc.its ridiculous
no wonder why newcomers to dont to stay. developers think its the game and dumb it down and make it casual but its really the community
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>>377389113
youre an idiot
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which is less of a fighting game, For Honor or Smash Bros?
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>>377388982
Yeah, excuses like this one is what I'm talking about...

When are these kids gonna stop being little bitches and just get to it? It's pathetic as fuck...
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>>377388908
he missed getting an award at evo because he wasn't in the room.
he is supposed to be entry level for kiddies to get into fighting but like i said, they would rather just be typical 12 year old stream monsters than bother getting into the games.
he never goes beyond that, never directs these kids to other channels or people to actually learn shit. hes a fucking mediocre surrogate friend
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>>377388982
I watched a lot of match videos, and when I finally got the game myself, I loved every second of finding out how my character plays. Then, the first time I played a live opponent, I got happy from just trying to (poorly) imitate the top player I always enjoyed watching.

A shame this experience doesn't happen with everyone. Striving to get better in an unfamiliar game, getting help from people: it's something special.
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literally every single person i have ever met has atleast 1 fighting game or racing game in their respective libraries
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>>377389112
You sound like a spergy white nerd, and whites are no good at fighting games.
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RISING THUNDER IS DEEEEEAAAAAAAD
Killll meeeeeee
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>>377389252
>>377389042
>>377389268
You've got the wrong idea. I don't play them, my backlog's long enough as is; I'm not a competitive person either, so it's just not the genre for me. Watching HnK or MvC videos is nice sometimes.
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>>377380823
Huge time commitment + Repetitive stress injuries would be my guess.

Plus a lot of the games suck.
>I'll just turtle for a while until I can unleash my sick 25 hit combo I've memorized and then turtle for a while after and repeat.
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>>377381558
TO SOME FAT FUCK
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>>377384250
>toxic community
There is no excuse to use that term. Do you mean competitive community ?
Do you mean a comunity that hurts your sensibilty ?
You moron. Weak ass faggot.
You deserve to be laughed at, prove me wrong if you have the skills, i will respect you if you win. In the mean time keep on losing, loser.
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Always one charcter/move better than all the rest fighting games are not competitive.
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>>377389360
>wont put the time in
>watches other put the time in
ahh the underage
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I don't play fighting games because I don't have the work ethic to git gud in them. Looking to change this though, but that might take time.
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>>377389327
Generally curious on the whites are no good at fighting games thing.
Why do you think that it is the way it is? Hardly ever see a white american win anything.
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The titties distract me from getting good
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>>377388727
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i play fighting games
SF3 and SFV are pretty fun
i know SFV got a lot of shit on release but its way more fun and fast than Slow Fighter 4
literally the only "good" thing about SF4 is the singleplayer components, and who plays fighting games for that shit

Also you can play shitloads of fighting games for free online in Fightcade
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>>377389417
and you keep on winning, winner!
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>>377389327
None of the ones that currenty play take games as seriously as they need to or are smart enough to win the mental game.
>not good at fighting games
this can also mean that no actual smart whites put in enough effort to be good. That is a problem with NA players in all games.
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>>377389490
whites are already so much better than everyone else, they don't need to prove it with a fighting game
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>>377389387
>I'll just turtle for a while until I can unleash my sick 25 hit combo I've memorized and then turtle for a while after and repeat.

Can't think of any fighting game that does this.
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>>377380823
Because theyre boring as fuck. You hardly move about and the gameplay is mostly garbage that gets old when you play for one hour, and when youve played one youve played them all.
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>>377389717
MvC
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>>377389667
most niggers are jobless so what else are they going to put their time into
asians just sit an arcade/at home and study frame data to ace their test to not disappoint their parents
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>>377389583
>4 slower than 5
the fuck?
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>ITT: fgc gets mad that their genre is almost as dead as point and clicks
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>>377389258
Yeah, I've been watching him because I want to learn to play this genre and try to eventually get good and he was recommended to me, but I noticed he never really explains shit, or talks about where or how to find out where to have someone explain shit. But I can't blame him, he's probably making easy money playing games he enjoys without having to think about anything beyond it. We'd all do it
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>>377389749
you know you can play against other people and not just bots right?
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>>377389667
They play for "fun" and have to work. Also no-life whites are playing other genres. Basically the competition is real thin outside of asians that travel and sweep tournaments.
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i wish flags were enabled again to see how this shitfest is 99% american retards, you can tell just from the post quality
anyway, do you guys use a stick? got this bad boy for 30 bucks, the onyl downside really is the crappy buttons, wich are a plastic piece that presses onto a PCB and just dont feel very good but i plan on changing
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>>377389360
Oh, so you've sucked for how many years now? No effort, no time into in, no patience... dude, just go and watch some Max ' videos. That will make you feel better...
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>>377389749
*plays minecraft for hours*
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>>377389417
>>377389252
I can't tell if these types of posts are falseflaggers or not, but this is the prime example of why people think the fgc is full of faggots. You have nerds living vicariously through the genre they play autistically acting like tough guys, it's fucking corny
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>>377389858
>calls others american retards
>too dumb to know how to replace buttons and sticks

sasuga europoor
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>>377389858
oh another fighting game player who wants to feel superior.
use google you fucking moron
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>>377389858
I only use pad, but I've noticed I wear out those buttons too quickly, so I do wanna try. Got any slick art you're gunna put on your stick?
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>>377381456
>of this
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>>377389756
>MvC
>Blocking
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>All these white people making excuses on why they suck at fighting games.
Go back to the most brainless competitive genre. FPS.
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>>377389858
if you plan on splurging for solid ps4 stick, the panthera and the obsidian are quite high quality. only real issue i have with the obsidian is how big it is since its like a foot and a half long.
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>>377389935
false flaggers or niggers >>377390056
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>>377389865
>not a competitive person
and yet you insist on making it a competition
he doesn't care about being good, he already said that.
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>>377381456
>Retards
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>mfw fgc tries to strong arm people into thinking the fighting game genre is not dead
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>>377390158
You can still play fighting games and not be competitive. Just learn enough about the character and core mechanics and see how that goes against other players.

What matters is you have fun.
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>>377381065
>>377381456
Both of this
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>>377390262
so you're just a casual then?
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>>377389858
Just by the size of that thing, I would say into the trash it goes...

You need weight on that thing or every time you do a shoryuken you'll flip out the fuck out of it
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For a fighting game thread, there sure are a lot of people who don't like it.
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>>377390056
You nailed, my nigger
They are playing other genres that appeal to them. Hope it isn't that hard for you to understand. If niggers/fats/stoners are able to compete in a game it means the competition is that thin. Fighting is literally the only competitive genre where this happens.
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>>377390056
wow, trannys, asians, and fat white dudes really live PUBG
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>>377390421
This isn't a fighting game thread, this is clearly a why are fighting games bad thread
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>>377380823
Because fighting games are for intellectuals only. Niggers get their assets handed to them because muh button mash don't work against elite minds such as myself.
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>>377390421
neo /v/
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>>377383847
Fightcade doesn't stop shit internet.

Better than current shit now, but still a hastle to get right at times.
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>>377390518
Idk, no one's saying anything about the actual games specifically. Like I get it, the toxic community, hard work getting to a competent level, or whatever.

It's almost like people haven't actually played fighting games at a competent level to accurately judge them.
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>>377390421
>Expecting anything else from a fighting game thread on /v/
You're better off going to eventhubs or hell, even /fgg/.
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>>377390454
maybe whites dont want to be associated with fat nigger stoners and xenophobic asians?
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>>377384250
>Toxic community

Doesn't stop shit like League and Dota ruining shit for everyone else.

Thanks Dota for killing a genre and basically forcing your shitty mechanics on everything else, and thanks League showing people will be retarded enough to spend 10 bucks on a different model.
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>>377381456
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>>377388727
Lol V not 3s

Im done. Nor a single mention. Those niggers at/in Capcom sure did the good trick on you faggots. I'll have my essence backm Go to hell. And good luck with your memory.
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>>377390158
I'm not saying go EVO or go home. If he watches FG is because he likes them. What silly excuse is good enough to think it's better to just watch them rather than play them??

You don't even have to get close your local community. Just stop being a little bitch with the excuses
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>>377390793
I'm sure that is part of it too, but really most just don't take games seriously enough. It is a huge problem with NA players and why they get outclassed in every other genre.
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>>377380823
>>>377389417
>>>377389252

I can't tell if these types of posts are falseflaggers or not, but this is the prime example of why people think /v/ is full of faggots.

I would edit the rest to make you look even more like a little bitch but I don't want to put the time nor the effort. I prefer watching other people do that. But hey, I'm not making up excuses, anon. This is not a competition...

Stop with the ridiculous excuses. Get on it
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>>377390731
There were 2 or so good threads the last week. But it was before midnight Americano time, so maybe that's why.
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>>377390793
>fgc is the most culturally diverse gaming community with whites being the minority.
Sounds like white people are just racists.
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>>377382839
>Urien
>Rammy
>Stun
>Zasalamel
>Cap'n MF Commando
Good man.
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>>377382839
>No Virtua Fighter

WHY DOESN'T ANYONE PLAY MY GAME!?
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>>377380823
I think games that have a lot of subsystems might just be overwhelming for some people.

I also find it amusing that a lot of people ask for fighting games to be easier when this is the most forgiving they've ever been.

Guilty Gear Xrd Rev has a FAQ in it's pause menu that helps with people familiarizing themselves with the game quicker. Skullgirl's has 360 input detection so your character wont accidentally jump doing 360s. SF even has motion shortcuts (down forward, down forward DP).

At this point people have to admit that fighting games really arent for all people and the people that ask fighting games to be easier need to realize that developers have tried to appeal to them in almost every way possible. Don't even get me started on people starting to grasp concepts like the importance of buttons,spacing and fundamentals.
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>>377388570
SAUCE
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>>377380823
I generally like them, but I'm not playing them currently because, in case you haven't heard, all modern fighting games suck ass.
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>>377392849
The problem is that fighting games attract a lot of plebs which is understandable because out of all the competitive game genres fighting games have the most spectacle. People see fighting games and they go, "Yeah I want to do this". It's a genre that's immediately exciting, there's no downtime, and it encourages crowd to become energized.

The masses are also huge casuals that don't want to take the time to learn how to get good at the game so they complain when they can't immediately cancel a 13-hit combo into a super or pull a Daigo parry and feel like a badass. They want the instant gratification that has lead to dumbed down game mechanics in the majority of mainstream video games nowadays and no amount of tutorials or handholding from the devs is going to change that.

It's also why Smash is so damn popular because that's the only level of complexity they can tolerate when it comes to actually playing the game.
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>>377382839
>not having sf2 on there

you fukt up nerd
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>>377393582
Can't really blame casuals for not wanting to pour serious time into something very few people make money from.
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>>377381668
二宮くん!
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>>377381747
thats because its the land of the free
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>>377393582
I honestly think the game is only popular because of nintendo characters, not for it's gameplay.

besides that I find it pretty amusing that it's not only just casuals who complain about fighting games but hardcore videogame players too. I see Dark Souls players pretending they're hot shit for playing the game and how they're so great for playing "difficult games" but they'll bitch about how fighting games are so hard and "tedious". It's ridiculous.
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All this arguing over entry barriers are diverting your attention on the real problem.

>always loved fighting games since a little kid
>never understood hitboxes and shit but still played with passion
>played with my younger brother mostly
>SF Alpha series, KoF, MvC and Tekken are our most played franchises
>had played most of the fighting games on SNES, PS1 and PS2
>every other kid didn't want to play fighting games with us because they were too weak
>literally those kid weren't able to throw a single fireball
>they didn't had any knowledge on how attack or block properly
>explaining them was no use. They lacked effort, focus and wit
>they had very poor skills in every other game also and were a pain to watch play (es. Mario)

>in my teenage years I had a bunch of nerdy friends
>still didn't understand hitboxes and shit
>friend think they're hardcore players
>friends hate fighting games, they think fighting games are stupid and suck big time
>one day I had the chance to test their skills
>mfw those self proclaimed hard core gamers weren't able to throw a single fireball
>mfw those self proclaimed hard core gamers didn't have any knowledge on how attack or block properly
>mfw explaining them was no use. They lacked effort, focus and wit
>mfw they had very poor skills in every other game also and were a pain to watch play

>also mfw they claimed to be better at Tekken (because SF is stupid and suck big time) and then I brutally murdered them playing Mokujin

Fighting games aren't popular because players lack even the most basic skills to play videogames
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After not playing for a few months, I started practicing Xrd every day the past week and jumped from completely losing every game, to actually beating scrubs, and actually standing a chance against people who are better than me, Even if I usually lose against those players, it feels good learning how to deal with stuff, and getting closer and closer, and the community has been extremely friendly.
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>>377381456
>get
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>>377380823
But I do, it's why I still play vidya, if the genre died, I'd go with it and move on to something else. Bing bing wahoo Nintendo stuff is fun at times, but lately the only fun I'm having is with some good ol fighters.
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So how I get better at fighting games ? i love to played them but I can't get good...
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>>377380823
huge monetary investment compared to something like a moba or cs:go any of those mainstream games. you also need to leave your house which is undesirable in the current year.
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I still play them. Mostly Guilty Gear and SFV at the moment. Rev 2 coming out in a week should be nice. I don't think it's really as hard as people say it is, just there is a entry gap that you just gotta grind out, and then you'll "get" it and can understand how to improve etc.

>>377395441
Find a friend on a similar skill level, play with him a lot, watch match videos and try to steal tech. Newer games are generally easier to learn because of combo trials and more HD footage/commentary.
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>>377395441
Learn basic mechanics to fighters, like meaties, reversals, ext, and how they are applied.
Don't be afraid to ask questions.
Expect to lose frequently to better players online, but observe your common mistakes, and figure out how to fix them.
Check out high level play of characters you play, and don't focus on combos and set ups, but just simple things, like how they approach the neutral game.
Find people around your skill level every so often and continue practicing with them.
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From a thread up right now.

This is exactly why. People may like the concept of fighting games and like the characters and stuff, but a lot of them just don't want to learn. They start the game, obviously lose and are like "fuck this".

Fighting games take effort and time to get good at, as well as accepting the fact you will lose at the start. Most people are not ok with this.
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>>377380823
I play smash all the time with my friends. Have done so for years.
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>>377396328
that's not a fighting game though.
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>>377390056
Nice no uppity niggers on adderal.
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>>377380823
People are scared of a skill barrier that hardly exists. They're either too impatient to learn the fundamentals, (which is more practice than know how,) or they think they need to be good enough to consistently beat people to have fun.

I don't know why people play competitive games if they can't take losing though. You don't get much better against worse opponents.
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>>377382190
It's is correct as it is a contraction of "it is"
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>>377396328
lol
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Because they have little content for someone who doesn't care about multiplayer.

Takes maybe 10 hours to unlock everything. Why would I spend $60 for 10 hours of entertainment when I could buy an RPG and get 50+ hours?
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>>377399686
Well they are not single player games.
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>>377399686
10 hours? fighting games are meant to be played for hundreds
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>>377381456
(beats the shit out of u)
what did you just say about me? oh wait, you can't talk anymore because you're all fucked up.
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I stopped playing fightan because i dont want to play SFV, no one wants to play KOF14 with me, and I moved away from my IRL fightan friends.
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>>377380823
several reasons
-I have a shitty connexion, I will teleport everywhere
-too much dlcs
-game dies after one year or so
-I'm shit à them
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its fucking expensive, i wanted i really wanted, but fuck off, my pc cant run street fighter v
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>>377380823
>Always release late on PC
>Most pros already playing on Console since it released earlier
>Not including crossplay, alienating from pro community
>Game doesn't sell well because lack of community
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Why?
They are too competitive for me, i like to have some fun with people but most of the players go turbo autism tryhard mode and make game unenjoyable in any way.
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>>377399686
Blazblue and guilty gear have way more than 10 hours of single player content.

And why would you even play a fighting game when you don't care about multiplayer
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>>377380823
I once fought this faggot named dougfunky or some shit, and I teabagged him one fucking time and he lost his shit and perfected me while taunting back. If someone is going to get that assblasted over fighting games then the genre is just not for me, it wasn't very fun and I would hate to become some bitter asshole like that guy
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>>377408280
>trying to win means you are assblasted
>it wasn't very fun
then don't be shit
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>>377408280
>win a game, show disrespect to your opponent
>he goes all-out, concentrates, outplays you so hard you can't even land a single hit, then shows disrespect in return
>waaaah he's actually putting in effort and i'm not having fun because i'm losing now
You sound like a massive faggot.
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>>377408280
>taunted
>complains about getting his shit kicked in
That's the risk you take by using the taunt oki. They get tilted or get their shit together.
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>>377384108
Just because you can't get a hit in doesn't mean you can't improve and get on that level.

Fighting people on your level and seeing both of your improvments is what's fun.
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>>377381456
>get good
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>>377384249
Or you know, just start learning them at the same time as a friend :^)
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