Who do you think would win? The Flood Vs The Thing?

>>377376968
The Flood is parasitic but the Thing is microbial, so the Thing. In the end though the Thing copies things on a cellular level, so you'd end up with a Thing that behaved like the Flood.

Really though I just like the Thing way more since I read this short story a few years ago.

http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/

>>377376968
I bet the Flood would fear the Thing.

>>377378275
>Completely misses the point about The Thing's ending

Keep your fanfics to yourself, you fuck

>>377378534
Even the game said it was Childs dude.

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>>377376968

The Flood.

>>377378524

You've gotta be squidding me.

But you gotta realize, the Flood has the intelligence advantage as they know how to pilot complex cars and ships, know how to use fire arms, and are smart enough for strategies

The Thing only has pure instinct on his side

>>377378534
The only question about the ending is whether it got Mac somewhere during the movie. There is not a single chance Childs was not infected.

>>377379214
Doesnt The Thing get the capabilities of the person it mimicked?

Depends on how far the Flood has spread before the fight

>>377379214
>The Thing only has pure instinct
Not when its literally any kind of fauna.

>>377379214
The Thing was able to build what seemed to be a ufo from a bunch of human junk. If it started to absorb the flood, it would easily get stupidly smart.

>>377379279

Yes

>>377379052

don't be a fanbitch.

>>377378275

Exactly, the flood would be eaten on a a microbial level. The only thing that could beat the thing would be the beast from Homeworld since its a cyborg-bacteria.

>>377379214
>has the intelligence advantage

>The Thing was constructing a trans-terrestrial space ship out of spare parts of a helicopter and various 80's technology laying around

Umm, no?

>>377379279
It gets memories of what its assimilated but its intelligence is dependent on its mass. At the level of a dog its capable of strategy complex enough to take advantage of the entire station and run around completely unnoticed.

>>377376968
Halofags will say the flood, everyone else is correct and will say the thing.

I dont know, how does it work IRL? How does it work when two infectious organisms clash? How does that work? If we can figure that out, we'll know our answer.

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>one of these caused the downfall of a galaxy-spanning civilization
>the other was almost defeated by a group of drunk norwegians

The Flood wins this hands down.

>>377379713
Which one works at the smaller level.
Also parasites usually don't infest parasites to my knowledge, they infect producers of some kind, stuff that's reliable and doesn't need to constantly find prey or kill the both of them. Especially since parasitism makes it harder for said creature to find prey to sustain the both of them. Its the reason why parasites like ticks and fleas are so small compared to the animals they infest, so that they don't actually bother the host so significantly it stops them from succeeding on feeding.

>>377379886

>smaller level

Doesn't matter, The Thing only works in groups of organisms that aren't Hiveminds.

>>377379750
kek.

The one that loses in this scenario is the one that is the "host" in this each case.

Next question.

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>>377379967
>Next question.

Would you birth a child with Nanako?

How the fuck is this even a question? THE THING CAN MASKED ITSELF LIKE A REGULAR PEOPLE

What the fuck is the thing

>>377380018
>thighighs
>good shape
Who wouldn't?

>>377380018
She has the face of a Shindol character, so it's probably a bad idea.

>>377378275
Isn't the most basic form of the flood also a microscopic organism? I think that's from the books, although I haven't read them

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>>377380075

>>377380018
Maybe is she was real and I was in the proper situation to do so.

Next question.

>>377380045
>The thing wouldn't be able to eat the floodlings faster than the flood would, well, flood it.

Yes it would.

Again the Thing is a microbial organism. The Flood can't even really take it as a host.

>>377380120
But the thing also eats. Flood is just The Thing without the ability to taking appearences.

>>377380242
Don't the Flood have spores? Couldnt they just lie dormant in The Thing for a long time before kicking its ass?

>>377379935
>The Thing only works in groups of organisms that aren't Hiveminds
When the fuck was this stated and in what media? Because at no point is it said in the original. And making dumb, baseless assumptions based on nothing but lack of evidence for or against the point only works against you.

>>377380189
Anon, when are you going to stop playing those videogames and get a job and maybe a girlfriend? its not healthy for a person your age to be like that.

What about the Necromorphs?

>>377380173
Honestly it's been a while. But if that was the case then Johnson would've been infected, but the Flood parasite couldn't interact with his nervous system, so it couldn't take him as a host.

>>377380120
and the thing eats a flood infected whatever, knows all about the flood, pretends to be flood and infects the rest of the flood with more thing.

>>377380075
do you mean the movie as in you never heard of it or what it literally is as a monster?

>>377380347
I have a job but you got me on that girlfriend thing though. Im currently workin on my body, wish me luck.

Next question.

>>377380326

haha, wow you're so dumb

The Thing can only work because nobody else in the group is aware WHO is the Thing

In a Hivemind it becomes super obvious.

please think alittle before posting, sweetie.

>>377380324
How big do you think a spore is compared to a cell?

What about the Xenomorphs?

>>377380404
This makes sense, The Thing would have to attack The Gravemind directly.

>>377380180
Is the professor supposed to be Gendo?

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Flood vs The Thing vs X-Parasite vs Necromorphs vs Tyranids vs The Zerg

Who would win

>>377378792
>>377379219
Wow you guys should pay attention a bit more next time. Childs was perfectly human and you're just throwing baseless accusations around. We might as well set everyone on fire if we're being THIS paranoid.

>>377380493

The Gravemind is just a highly concentrated portion of Flood, it's no more different than the rest of the Flood except slightly more concentrated.

>>377380447
as big as your dick lol

>>377380404
Why couldn't the Thing mimic the hivemind? If it completely copies a Flood organism it follows that it would be tapped into the hivemind, just with another consciousness on top of that.

And if it couldn't, what is the Flood supposed to do about it anyway?

>>377380564
So... Fucking huge in comparison?

You didn't think that through.

the thing
don't let anyone tell you otherwise
especially people invested in anything written by bungie/related

>>377380564
Considering he said compared to I think you just complimented him

>>377380585
>Why couldn't the Thing mimic the hivemind?

Because it would be as obvious as your arm starting to act out of order.

Except you have the option to chop your arm off and grow a new one.

>just with another consciousness on top of that.

best case scenario for the thing then is to just become another flood creature for the rest of it's existence, one step out of order and it gets purged

>>377380521
Not a bad idea. Can't let the Thing escape to the rest of the world.

>>377380516
Don't know X-Parasite.
Necromorphs are shit here.
Zerg are a worse version of Tyranids.
Tyranids maybe have a chance.

>>377380665

if you think the thing would win you haven't seen the movie.

anybody who disagrees doesn't understand the sheer scope of the Flood

thing loses.......

>>377380404
>The Thing can only work because nobody else in the group is aware WHO is the Thing
That doesn't fucking matter when you physically cannot stop it from absorbing you. The only reason why it needed to infiltrate is because its too fucking cold in Antarctica to spread by air and a flamethrower was in arms reach for 90% of the movie after it revealed itself. In any environment above freezing, which is most of Halo, against an enemy that is not bringing weapons that cause extreme heat for an extended duration (which is only plasma weapon from what we've seen of halo) you cannot stop it.

>>377380546
Gravemind is definitely the brains of the flood. Get control of that and you control the flood.

>>377380765
>That doesn't fucking matter when you physically cannot stop it from absorbing you.

Yes it does and the Thing doesn't absorb, it mimics and consumes.

Watch the movie properly.

>>377380450
would get fucked sideways

>>377380763
eh, it entirely hinges on how small the flood are. if it's literally just spores that they travel and infect others on, thing wins. thing works on a small level, thus it can just infect then consume spores from the inside out.

flood may be smart enough to burn the thing way, but the thing is smart too.

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Necrons vs the flood vs Thing vs Necromorphs.

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>people thinking the Thing is some grand cosmic horror like the Flood when in reality it's a babby skinwalker designed solely for scaring small groups of isolated individuals

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>>377380450
A xeno would have the advantage against the Thing because of its acidic blood and wouldn't be able to assimilate it but the thing would kill it nonetheless.
The flood would outright destroy them unless they find a way to breed within the flood.

>>377380516
>Tyranids
Aren't those like stupidly broken or something, I barely know anything about 40k.

>>377380682
>Because it would be as obvious as your arm starting to act out of order.

But my arm wouldn't be acting out of order. It would be acting exactly the same, because the Thing completely copies the original organism on a cellular level.

>best case scenario for the thing then is to just become another flood creature for the rest of it's existence, one step out of order and it gets purged

Why, and how? It could just continue to infect the Flood without the Flood ever even being aware of it.

>>377380682
Wouldn't the Flood "kill" the thing, try to assimilate but get assimilated instead? All the Thing has to do is really infect a Gravemind's tentacle and work its way up to the main body. And it's not like it wouldn't pretend to take orders before "betraying" the Gravemind.

>>377380905

it doesn't matter how small it is.

What happens is if the Thing can blend in or not in a hivemind environment.

>>377380521
So childs was missing with the door thrown open when he was specifically told to just stay put and nothing about his personality for the entire movie suggests that he would go hunting. Especially when the camera specifically panned down to the basement like that.
>>377380849
It mimics and absorbs at a fucking cellular level. Has the flood demonstrated literally fucking anything, any kind of countermeasure for stopping warfare at the cellular level?

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Let's throw Jenova in the mix. Basically The Thing but on a planet-devouring scale.

now let's put necromorphs in the mix!

>>377380173
Yes it's original form is microscopic dust from outside the galaxy. The spores in the games are not the original form but obviously make it easier for a gameplay mechanic.

>>377380943
>because the Thing completely copies the original organism on a cellular level.

not in the beginning and then suddenly it stops acting like your arm when you try to force it to touch a boiling pot.

>>377381015
>It mimics and absorbs at a fucking cellular level.

and guess what

if you can react to and sense cellular level infection you can be aware of the Thing

flood wins hands down

QED

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>>377380849
>The thing doesn't absorb
But it does.

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And dont forget me!

>>377380849
I mean, if the mimicry is perfect what's the difference.

Throughout your life every single cell in your body dies and is replaced, so really are you the same organism you started out as? Does it really matter as long as all those cells are still preforming the function they're supposed to?

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>>377381116

>i don't know what absorption is

dum!

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>>377380748
>Doesn't know x-parasite

>>377380942
>Aren't those like stupidly broken or something, I barely know anything about 40k.

Tyranids have Phage cells that adapt and consumes any virus or bioweapon used on it. That's why the races of 40K cannot develop a long lasting bioweapon against the Tyranids.

Heck, even the Daemons of the God of disease cannot create a plague that can stick against the Tyranids since the Tyranids would swiftly churn out a new wave of bio-warriors that are resistant to the plagues.

>>377380516
They blund up and then call Superman to destroy that universe.

>>377381150
I want to hug it.

>>377376968
fuck that is tuff. how could you even tell them apart? the thing could copy the flood and you would never know.

>>377380942
>Aren't those like stupidly broken or something, I barely know anything about 40k.

Along with their natural defences like: >>377381213
>Tyranids have Phage cells that adapt and consumes any virus or bioweapon used on it. That's why the races of 40K cannot develop a long lasting bioweapon against the Tyranids.

The Tyranids have an uncomprehensible amount of numbers to start with.

I can't think of many things that could repel a Tyranid invasion besides somebody like Captain Harlock. Does anybody have a map of how large their swarms are compared to the 40k galaxy?

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>>377376968
Blacklight Virus

>>377380390
Both I guess.

>>377380997
>What happens is if the Thing can blend in or not in a hivemind environment.
why would the thing need to blend in? it's not in a cold environment with explosives and fire everywhere
if the flood gets anywhere near it, one single air born cell of the thing would entirely take over any flood, including the gravemind, in a matter of time.

if the thing works on a smaller level, the flood can't do anything but fight it with conventional firepower (literally). so with that in mind, the flood would have to behave like a human. get in hermetically seal suits for all it's floodings, get some plasma guns or flamethrowers or nukes, and go fight the thing where ever it is.

oh and the thing is smart, so it can use all those weapon and strategies too. plus, all it has to due is open their suits to infect them. the flood can't even run away as they have never been shown to make their own tech like ships. the thing can build spaceships from very simple machines. and all it would take is one kamikaze at a flood world to utterly fuck them

>>377379279
yes, he is a fucking retard.

>>377380748
X-Parasite from Metroid Fusion. They're weird, they can copy your DNA, kill you, then proceed to create a copy of what it stole. Thing is, the main character, Samus, survives the parasite but a copy of her when she was Super OP was created.

This thing with all of her powers was running rampant on the ship. And at the near end of the game it's revealed that the X-Parasite Asexually reproduces at crazy fast rate, which meant that there were possibly more than 10 copies of Samus with all her powers in the station

tl;dr: They copy their host then create even more copies by asexual reproduction

The Flood, what the fuck

Flood literally takes over entire galaxies

>>377381386

none of those strategies would work against the Flood, sorry.

>>>/tv/82918823

>>377381496
The thing is a game.

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>>377376968
The Thing Vs. Necromorphs is a better comparison.

They both mold living tissue into weapons.

>>377381330
a long while back, there was a 20k-autist post about the win conditions for every race, stuff like The Emperor wakes up kind of deals.

The win-con for Tyranids was literally "they actually arrive", since all we're seeing in the stories right now is a small scout fleet. We haven't seen even the smallest fraction of their real force.

>>377381479
conventional firepower sure wouldn't do much, but it would open any protective suits they have to stop the infection that happens on a cellular level.
so again, all it takes is one cell from the thing to fuck them over. so the thing coughs towards the flood, it wins a day later when everything is now been consumed by the thing.

what can the flood do? try to blast the thing out of the sky? try to find it where ever it is while be very careful not to get into a position that risks exposure to the thing? hope for a stale mate via activating the ring(s)?

>>377381479
Not an argument.

Flood can reincarnate its dead

>>377381690

too much reading, can you summarize pls.

>>377381386
One guy fucking rubs his face all over the dog thing outside when the Norwegians attack and doesn't get infected by it.

If it was as infectious as you say it is the thing wouldn't need to use stealth at all and there wouldn't be a movie.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12995964
http://www.strawpoll.me/12995964
http://www.strawpoll.me/12995964

We have to exercise democracy on such a sensitive topic.

>>377381334
Honestly at this point it just comes down to absorb powers vs absorb powers vs absorb powers.
We don't know enough about the way Blacklight or Necromorphs infect things to assume they'll win against the Flood or The Thing which both work on a cellular level. Blacklight and Necromorphs are also some sort of viral entity rather than parasitic organisms too.

Also is it weird that I fucking love this sort of horror trope? I also really like the Blob for similar reasons, Dead Space and Prototype are some of my favourite games, and The Thing is my favourite film.

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Who wore it better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvIQ1O7W-wY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH7ps39xKJI

>>377381773
Different anon, but, selective infection. The Thing is smart enough to not just infect someone from touching it. woulc draw attention far too eraly before it could plan its course of action, aka what it does in the movie.

>>377381581
the thing is a sentient virus
necromprphs are made with lovercraftian cosmic horror magic

my bet is on the latter

it REALLY depends upon how developed everything is.

if the flood has one host, and the thing has one host.

yeah, the thing would win

if the flood has a gravemind, flood wins.

x-parasite, that could go wrong on every front, because its a mimic of the host, im not going to touch that fanfic.

necromorphs, eh, its a mixed bag, environmental conditions put things at a stalemate.

necrons, they win, due to technology and firepower.

tyranids, if they show up, they win, and everyone looses.

>>377381773
>One guy fucking rubs his face all over the dog thing outside when the Norwegians attack and doesn't get infected by it.

The thing is an intelligent organism and it needs privacy to assimilate people so it doesn't get caught.

It could have chosen not to infect them in front of everyone else because it couldn't have safely assimilated them.

>>377381745
thing works on a smaller level
flood can't do anything but run and hide

>>377381773
that is one thing that has always bothered me about the movie. they state explicitly that the thing works on the cellular level, and how they should make their own food and such, yet that guy who gets dog snot on his face is fine. only explanation is the thing really really does not like the cold and it's cells died/froze too fast to do anything to him while outside.... but then again he touched the dog inside too and if the thing was that infectious all the dog would have had to do was breat around them to infect them all. odds are the thing can't survive in open air even if it's warm, needs physical contact.

>>377381101
>if you can react to and sense cellular level infection you can be aware of the Thing

The Flood has never shown that capability.

>>377381101
>if you can react to and sense cellular level infection you can be aware of the Thing
You have yet to fucking state how the flood could do such a thing. The lysogenic cycle is not, nor does it beat, a sentient, and at some points sapient, bacterium.

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Necromorphs.

>>377382020

yes it has

>>377382040

The Thing cannot infect fungi

>>377381861
I do too, I just wish there were more games that let you play as one.
Seriously, taking control of a sentient virus as it morphs into other things has to be one of the coolest concepts I know, and yet I've only really seen it done in Prototype.

>>377381925
That's not entirely correct.
The Thing is a parasitic organism.
Necromorph infections are more like a virus, look in the Martyr novel about how the first Necromorph was made.

>>377381861
Blacklight I guess, but since when are necromorphs viral?

Yeah in the new movies you've got spores and goo for their precursors, but Necromorphs themselves have always been shown to be a parasitic organism.

>>377382107
>The Thing cannot infect fungi
When and where is this said?

>>377380919

Necrons, no contest.

>>377382275

In a comic when they were doing tests on the Thing in a government laboratory.

>>377382107
>The Thing cannot infect fungi
are fungi made up of cells? because that's what the thing uses to infect you. it gets a hold of your cells, eats them, and replaces them with itself til you are no longer you but the thing.

odds are, everyone in the movie was infected at the cellular level and already fucked no matter what. given enough time in a warm climate the assimilation would have been completed.

>>377382107
>The Thing cannot infect fungi
Why couldn't it? Just like with all the other fiction viruses/parasites in this thread, it's pretty safe to assume it could take in any sort of biomass if it wanted to. It makes more sense for it to go for animals rather than plants though, sure.

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>>377380919
What do Necrons do?

Like they're robots. How does one be infected by robot? I can't Warhammer lore.

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>>377380075

>>377382358
All life is made of cells...

>>377382358

>are fungi made up of cells?

nope.


they're made up of fungus

>>377382346
I've never even heard of any The Thing comics.
We're hitting non-canon levels that shouldn't even be possible.

>>377382424
Please stop.

>>377382107
>yes it has

When?

>>377382421
so the thing can infect all of life?
>>377382424
what is fungus made up of?

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>>377382467
>what is fungus made up of?

fungus you fucking dingus

>>377382467
>what is fungus made up of?
Fungus. It's fungus all the way down!

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>>377380919
They're gonna get their shit flayed.

>>377382467
>what is fungus made up of?

fun things

>>377382226
Nah, Necromorphs infect via magic marker signals that turns into a virus. The writing on the markers are a genetic code that end up turning into some sort of virus when fully sequenced. The Necromorphs themselves act a lot like parasitoids, sure, but the BASE form and means of existence for Necromorph infections to happen is a lot more like a virus.

>>377378275
keep your edgy trash away from this thread

do you guys remember when the flood literally infected a whole fucking planet

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Just gave this thread a quick skim

So the Flood is fungus and apparently the Thing cannot infect fungus, for reasons I'm not sure. Isn't that this argument over and done with?

>>377382746
Fuck off retard

>>377379967
>they merge and become the THUD

>>377382805

Wow, you're angry and clearly in the wrong.

>>377380919
I love it when the tech level gets so high that it might as well be magic.

>>377382409
Aren't Necrons made from living metal?

>>377382746
No because in not any media, especially canon shit, has the thing been stated to be unable to absorb fungus. Now fuck off samefag.
It can't/won't absorb dead shit like cloth but still living shit, like a parasitic fungus, is fair game.

>>377382615
What? Where is that even from?

All I've ever seen from Necromorphs is them implanting embryos into people. They don't SPREAD like a virus.

>>377382912
Necrodermis. But yes. Necrons are a mixture of terminators and TOMB KANGZ in space.

>>377382467
Well if you want to get really technical, virus aren't cells, but tiny molecules of DNA injectors.The Thing probably couldn't infect those, but their status as "life", being basically rocks with a DNA payload is up for debate.

The thing should have no problem assimilating a single celled organism considering how they are simpler and more common than other life. On the other hand, this "assimilation" might lead to a result that's not satisfactory.

>>377382963
Have you ever played the games ever? You can piece this all together from random data logs in it. The Dead Space: Martyr novel also explains how the first Necromorph was created in the same fashion as I described.

>>377382920
>No because in not any media, especially canon shit, has the thing been stated to be unable to absorb fungus.

Sorry but an anon from above said that there was a comic where the Thing could not infect Fungus

So the Thing cannot infect Fungus.

>>377382912
The living part is not meant literally.

>>377383105
That's just an unproven claim, I could claim that the Flood loses because the Flood instantly loses to things called "The Thing" and it would be equally as valid as his claim.

>>377383172

>unproven claim

How would you know? Have you read the comic?

>>377383286
post the comic

>>377383038
OH FUCK, I thought you meant the XENOmorphs.

Damn. Sorry anon.

>>377383286
The burden of proof lies upon him to show where in the comic it says The Thing cannot infect fungus.

>>377382912
Necrodermis. But yes. Necrons are a mixture of terminators and TOMB KANGZ in space.

>>377380521
>Childs was perfectly human and you're just throwing baseless accusations around. We might as well set everyone on fire if we're being THIS paranoid.
You're right, we should. Let's start with you, since you're obviously infected.

>>377381378
>Both
You must be underage.

>>377376968
so what was the things reason for doing anything?

>>377383705
it's own survival

>>377383705
survive. the thing wasn't evil in anyway. it crashed on a shitty planet and had to deal with a bunch of dumb savages fucking with it

the thing just wanted some food...

>>377376968
I need someone to do a pic of the flood and a pic of the thing shitposting

>>377383705
to fuck it self as a hot sports model in human form

>>377383793
>Flood randomly bringing up some bullshit about fungus from out of nowhere
I'm for it

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>we won't get another Thing movie
>we won't get another Thing game

http://thething.wikia.com/wiki/The_Thing_(organism)

The words "fungus," "mushroom," "spore," and pretty much anything else I could think of relating to fungi never appears on this soul-crushingly detailed page outlining The Thing's abilities and limitations.

There is no rule about The Thing and its interaction with fungus, you dumbass.

>>377380397
Do you have an iPhone or an Android?

>>377384417
Neither, I have a microsoft phone because im poor.

Next question.

>>377378275
https://www.halopedia.org/Flood_Super_Cell

>>377384681
Didn't work on Johnson.

>>377380372
It could have infected him at any time, Boren's syndrome was just a cover. The Flood can, however, choose whether or not they want to infect certain specimens. As to why Johnson or Mendoza weren't infected, I don't know. Why does Gravemind not kill Arbiter and Chief with his tentacles when they're defenseless in Halo 3? The Flood seem to really like unnecessary suspense.

>>377382409

>What do Necrons do?

Old Necrons turned planets into lifeless deserts, their guns and tech killed literally anything biological in the planet. Only thing that held them back was that their resurgences were usually only planet-system wide, so they were incredibly dangerous but only in small isolated areas.

New Necrons are essentially Tomb Kings in space and thus more lame. Although you can technically play the old Necrons if you want.

But generally the 3 big bads were Necrons, Tyranids and Chaos. Your world turned into a dead wasteland when the first two invade, your world turns into Doom hell when Chaos invades.

>>377384905
Fuck off with it was just a cover. The Flood literally could not take him as a host because his CNS was all screwed up.

The Gravemind didn't even exist then, they were still in a feral state and infecting everything, so that's no excuse.

>>377380521
He fucking drank kerosene, dude.

>ITT people who know nothing about halo lore argue about halo lore

the flood is one of the most powerful fictional beings period.

>>377384823
It could have, Bungie retconned that a while back, and for good reason. Having a cure really diminishes the Flood in general IMO.
Apparently Johnson was just good enough to shoot his way out.
>>377385094
Dude, Joseph Staten went out of his way to state that he didn't like that idea for the Halo story.
https://www.halopedia.org/Avery_Johnson
Read the Notes section.

>>377379713
Most parasites that siphon resources from other organisms are 90% reproductive organs and rarely make good targets for other parasites, but when it does happen obviously the smaller one will be the parasite.

It's not real and all postulation because nature doesn't work like this, but The Flood would definitely fear The Thing more than the thing fears the flood.

>>377383286
Guy that called you a retard here. I just read 4 of the 5 comic runs and there's nothing about fungus. Getting the 5th one is too much of a hassle to bother.

>>377380748
Necromorphs would probably stand a good chance against the Thing and the Flood since its acid blood would probably violently fuck over any attempt at parasitical infestation. The Thing would be fucked and the Flood would probably just be screwed, not to mention Xenomorphs always show to have a fairly high level of intelligence.

Unless something is just coming with a fuckton of raw power then Xenomorphs would win. Also the X Parasite is some silly nonsense.

>>377382210
Then how do Marker constructs make them? All the Markers do is pull energy from some machine deep in space and it

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>>377378275
The Thing may not even be on a microbial level, but molecular level. It merely imitates microbes.

Either way anyone who says the Flood hasn't watched The Thing or didn't pay attention.

>>377376968
neither, they'd exhaust their own energy trying to deal with each other and run out of biomass and starve

>>377385520
>Necromorphs

Meant Xenos.

>The Flood can generate its own intelligence centers that corrupt both organisms and machine AI
>Possess the wisdom of every sentient absorbed
>Able to willfully adapt to any environment, and selectively infect hosts to influence outcomes on a greater scale, which means some higher grade of strategic thinking
[Spoiler]>Flood is a final act carried by ancient creators of sentient life to bring order when their creations turned on them[/spoiler]

>>377379750
I've got agree with this post. The flood is a hive minded cosmic horror, and things are just cellular shape-shifting parasite animals.

>>377385094
The flood can consume any carbon based lifeforms, though.

>>377385627
You would've been more correct with Necromorphs. I don't know why you think the acid blood would effect the Thing at all.
Stomach acid didn't.

Necromorphs are extra-dimensional and have magic fuckery which would possibly give them an edge against the Thing.

>>377385590
I think they did it to keep the Flood as the "dead end evolution" of the Halo species. In all of Halo 3's Legendary terminals, IRIS, and the Forerunner Saga the Flood is discussed as this superlative organism with no biological weakness.
I like the retcon. Even if you don't, you've got to accept that it exists.

>>377379214
The thing literally built a flying saucer out of junk lying around the compound

>>377385742
It wouldn't be flood cells though, as the movie clearly shows it merely takes on the appearance of the cells. If it were becoming the cells then it wouldn't be the thing and would die out to anything.

>>377385853
No it didn't. The corpse they found in that flying saucer was the host alien that the thing came to earth in.

>>377385918
Dude it's building one underneath that shack for like 50% of the movie.

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>>377385918
At the end of the movie, you dope. The Blair-Thing builds some hovercraft UFO vehicle to escape the arctic.

>>377385736
The thing needs to use blood to get around the body, Xenomorph blood is molecular acid that can burn through multiple layers of hardened metal. The Thing would instantly get wrecked the second it tried to use a xenos blood supply to take it over. There's just 0 chance that organic material can safely penetrate a Xeno.

>>377385668
Ain't late game Flood basically retarded? Like reality warping hivemind things? Their initial stage is pretty strong but if they're allowed to spread they seem to be a galaxy ending threat.

>>377385742
Would it be possible that the thing could imitate flood cells and become a new hivemind as it assimilates more of it?

>>377385742
>if you try to mimic the flood you BECOME part of the flood
1)When and where the fuck is this ever said? At what point in some bumfuck halo book is it said that any creature has attempted to mimic a fucking cordyceps is under the control of mother cordycep?
2)In what fucking planet does this count as a win for Flood? At best its a tie and at worst Thing still wins as it begins to assimilate the entirety of the Flood as it freely passes through everywhere and eventually becomes one with the gravemind.
Boy if you're going to try to troll do it fucking right. You say half truths that are hard to disprove or prove. You don't make statements which should definitely have proof but then try to lay down that burden on the other guys for saying your baseless statements are fucking retarded.
And in case you're not just a bad troll but actually this stupid, leave or get screen caps and links to all you dumbshit.

>>377383779
I didn't a post on /v/ could be more fucking gay.

Parasite-X infected, Zerg DNA infused, Flood spore assimilated Tyranid lifeform that's been necromorphed by the marker and harbors the Thing

vs

Doomguy

Place your bets, gentlemen.

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>>377385918
Not the giant one, the little one under the shack that Blair-thing was making

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What about these guys?

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Not as powerful as the Tyranids.

>>377386072
Sounds more like you just don't understand the concept whatsoever. I'm not calling you stupid but you're wrong for not thinking it through.

If flood were infected with the Thing and then used the Thing infected flood for viable biomass it would simply spread the Thing even more, it's like tar.

And as >>377386126 said, even if it were controlled it'd still spread unhindered until it overcame the gravemind.

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>>377383779

>floodfags this delusional
holy shit it's like you have no idea not only of how your opposition functions, but also the organism you're supporting

>B-but muh galaxy conquering
because the flood just came into existence with a galaxy under its control?

Assuming equal numbers on both sides the thing wins almost instantly
Even if the entire flood was out to get the thing, its shown that the thing assimilates things faster than the flood
The second the flood gets near the thing, it assimilates one of the flood, one becomes two then four then 8 then no more flood

The alien that gets killed by a few bullets will get fucked up the ass by the thing that can only be stopped by chemical reactions and being stripped of molecular energy

>>377386156
The top one, Doomguy is a physical-damage only guy.

>>377386071
Endgame flood are smarter than you, stronger, own the whole galaxy and will then decide to just chill in their vast collection of knowledge and memories or probably send vessels to neighbor galaxies to repeat the cycle.

Since Halo destroys neural networks, and the Flood is essentially a meaty shell that harbors multidimensional sentience, they got cucked out of their victory by being reduced back to spores.

>>377379219

I've always liked the idea of Macready being the thing. No explanation for his torn clothes and his ideas got everyone killed.

>>377385296
Not canon.

>>377385251
>halo
>lore

What a joke

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The Flood corrupt more than organisms. They also derive from precursors, which are immortal beings to begin with. Nothing can kill them off. That was said in the original trilogy numerous times. The arrays were used to kill off other lifeforms so they would remained trapped and starve.

>>377386246
>No because "imitating" flood cells is fundamentally the same as becoming flood cells

You say this as if it can't go back to being the thing. Even though we see it in the films taking on human form down to the cellular level but then shape shifting whenever it pleases

>>377379219
Neither were infected and both died in the snow.

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>>377386156
DOOMGUY. You dont seal yourself in hell to fight demons for all eternity without knowing exactly what the fuck you're doing in a fight.

>>377386156
>Parasite-X infected, Zerg DNA infused, Flood spore assimilated Tyranid lifeform that's been necromorphed by the marker and harbors the Thing
>A facehugger latches onto it

>>377385679
Not blacks, apparently.

>>377386404
After 343 got a hold of it, yeah

>>377386246
>and thus the Thing becomes the fucking flood.
But that's exactly what the Thing would want.

>>377386258
Tyranids are powerful due to their sheer numbers and their ability to adapt their genetic makeup on the fly to counteract any weaknesses their enemies might discover. Any individual Tyranid, while still formidable creatures, are not that much of a threat, at least not in the way a single Flood spore or necromorph can be.

>>377386293
Itt: people who know nothing if the flood

>>377386502
It wouldn't be flood biomass, it'd be the thing. It doesn't have anything to do with "fooling" anything and I'm strongly suspecting you are in fact stupid or at least playing stupid to get a rise.

>>377386071
But the Thing doesn't use blood to get around, it copies things cellularly.

>>377386480
>A headcrab falls on top of that

>>>Alex Mercer jumps in

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>>377386404
People tend to laud it more than they probably should. It's the copy and paste ancient civilization with advanced technology trope. That being said Bungie always kept it vague on purpose which gave the games an air of mystery. Then 343i decided FUCK THAT and made the badguy for 4 an ancient evil awakens and chief the chosen one.

>>377386502
>If it turns into flood cells

Have you ever watched The Thing?
You haven't, not really anyway.
It doesn't turn into cells, it turns cells into it. All cells of any biological matter whatsoever instantly on contact.

>>377386609
Samurai jack spoilers
>Aku nuts in it's mouth

>>377386246
>No because "imitating" flood cells is fundamentally the same as becoming flood cells.

It became humans and still had a consciousness beyond the humans it was.

Your idea makes no sense.

>>377386695
It's because he hasn't watched The Thing.

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>>377386293
>The alien that gets killed by a few bullets

Yes, because Flood can only take the form of infected humans, and no other form ever or at all.

>>377386650
Gravemind can still corrupt it without it being infected. Once a planet has reached a certain level of infestation, non-carbon based forms of 'life' can succumb to it. Artificial Intelligence also fell under the influence.

But what if it was wearing a fursuit?

>>377386737
Not canon. The infected Brutes were as close as we got.

>>377386502

>If the thing tries to "infect" or "imitate" the flood it will literally become the flood. You can't "fool" the flood into thinking non-flood cells are flood cells. The thing wouldn't "Spread" because it would literally turn into flood biomass and be under the direct control of the gravemind.

Thing copies and imitates the cells that transmit those orders as well. The flood cells get absorbed by the Thing cells. So when The Thing infects something, it slowly stops being itself entirely. You don't coexist with the Thing.

But really, Flood and The Thing are essentially the same thing anyway so "who controls what" really comes down to which infects which, they could theoretically play endless switcharoo with each other with one corpse.

What would happen if the Flood infected a Tyranid lifeform? Would the Gravemind overpower the Hivemind or vice versa?

>>377386743
>once a variable has been reached in favor of

Argument over.

the thing has the coolest movie poster ever
too bad I horror movies aren't my forte

>>377386818
Tyranids are far vaster than the Flood, so probably a far stronger hivemind behind it.

>>377386773
Nope, it's mentioned in a Bungie 'Flood Autopsy' Article. Juggernauts are canon.

>>377386571
The Gravemind becomes the Thing tho.

>>377386593
I'd still never be able to have its cells replace a Xenomorph's cells without it turning into a mess of melted nonsense. Xenomorphs were considered perfect beings, that and they can operate in the vacuum of space and do all sorts of silly shit.

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>>377386773
???

>Look up these shitty non-canon The Thing sequel comics
>Childs wasn't infected all along but DOES get infected as MacReady and him get rescued and go to mainland Argentina, the Childs-Thing dies in an airstrike
>MacReady wakes up somewhere in New Zealand, The Thing is there too
>Most of whoever was infected manages to get destroyed save for a small spider-like head of a woman
>It falls into the ocean and turns into a fish with food on its mind, dooming life on earth as we know it

>>377386942
I read them too just now, they're fucking awful.

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>>377386818
>>377386876
The Hivemind literally warps reality it's so fucking smart.

>tfw too intelligent for chaos

>>377386876
>so probably a far stronger hivemind behind it.
Reminder that the Tyranid Hivemind got BTFO by a dozen Librarians stuck in the Warp.

>>377386906
Pure Form =/ Juggernaut. In fact, a Juggernaut would quite literally rip a Pure Form in half.

>>377386904
But why?

I mean, the Xenos were just made by a stupid robot anyway.

>>377387039
Those librarians were all brap posters and they shitposted him.

>>377387039

>Reminder that the Tyranid Hivemind got BTFO

Which one? Theres multiple. Each huge swarm has a hive mind of its own.

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>>377386820
What argument? I've seen nothing from your side of it.

There's plenty outside of the milky way, and varying other locations where they have evolved.

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>Tfw HEROCLIX allows me to play The Flood on a team with Venom,Judge Death, Scarecrow, and Carnage.

>>377387021
The premises were so good. But the comic authors and artists didn't have a fucking clue about what made the original movie and book such masterpieces. Purple anime tentacles everywhere, slow assimilations like an illness rather than a violent parasitic takeover, and the monster designs themselves were G-rated as fuck.

The Thing is the best movie ever made. I love John Carpenter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzxKYSFlugM

>>377386797
Reminds me of what happens when you combine virus and clone in that old Powder Game.
It passes through in waves, infecting itself while replicating itself in a self-sustaining round robin.

>>377387039
That doesn't mean anything. Humans in 40k are the strongest psykers in the setting.

Most would think the Eldar are, but that's because humans are only just beginning their psychic awakening.

>>377386904

>I'd still never be able to have its cells replace a Xenomorph's cells without it turning into a mess of melted nonsense

Why not? It gradually replaces everything with a perfect copy, with the exception that its controlled by The Thing. Get The Thing to infect the Xenomorph Queen and the entire hive becomes The Thing very soon after.

The only period of weakness for The Thing is when its in the middle of its assimilating process, thats where it looks like a weird jumbled mess and thats where you can instantly recognize its The Thing.

So Xenomorphs could destroy the The Thing queen if they don't recognize her pheromones because she's still in the middle of the forming process. But heres the thing, they would have to do it without getting near The Thing, because The Thing can infect you with physical contact alone.

>>377387192
>He hated Bioshit Infinite
>Liked Dead Space 3
>Excited for Dead Island Riptide
>"The new Tomb Raider is awesome"
/ourguy/ or no?

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>So little body horror games/movies

the thing's whole advantage is stealth/imitation, that seems a bit pointless against the flood. even if it could infect anything, the flood would always know what's thinged and what isn't.

>>377387201
>That doesn't mean anything. Humans in 40k are the strongest psykers in the setting.
What mon'keigh propaganda is this? It took countless psykers collectively killing themselves to get Humanity's best Psyker, and said Psyker's explicit massive tampering with human DNA to produce their second best. Meanwhile Eldrad alone can beat pretty much any modern loyal psyker (In theory. Fluff has very rarely gone in favor of the Eldar.)

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>>377387184
And the Thing cackling like a B-grade villain.

>>377379750
It really wouldn't be much of a fight. The thing would just assimilate the flood.
>>377385676
You are assuming that the specimen found in antartica is the only one that exists. Given how we see it works and how the X works in Metroid fusion I have no doubt the Thing wouldn't spread as quickly as the flood could.

>>377387368
>that face
I thought Childs was supposed to be infected here? Looks like a regular black guy to me.

Flood vs Hive

>>377387379
Blair's projection in the movie calculated that every life form on the planet would be assimilated 27,000 hours after The Thing reached the mainland.
That's relatively slow compared to the Flood, who took over an entire city in less than a day and needed the entire greater area around that to be glassed to ensure nothing survived.

>>377376968
>All this Thing-Wank
You fags seem to forget that the Flood don't need to absorb the Thing, they can just find a weapon big enough to kill it and then pull the trigger

>>377387490
>and needed the entire greater area around that to be glassed to ensure nothing survived.
Try half of the Africa

>>377387490

Because The Thing spreads in secret while the Flood just leeroy jenkens that shit

>>377387171

>You can't force flood cells to do anything other than make more flood cells.

You can, if you're The Thing. Thing can manipulate and morph whatever it controls. Hence why suddenly a fat guy's stomach has shark teeth in it.

>The flood cells don't get absorbed, they rearrange biomass to suite their use to create MORE FLOOD.

So the Thing cells attack the flood cells, absorb them, become their perfect clone and then simply take control of that particular lump of Flood. And its not Flood anymore when The Thing has done it, its The Thing looking like Flood.

Flood and The Thing are essentially the same thing, with the exception that Flood is mindless growth controlled by one entity, whereas The Thing is sentient growth. Whichever starts bigger in the universe wins the "who eats who first"-contest.

>>377387359
Tigurius made contact with the Tyranid hivemind and emerged unscathed. He now knows pretty much every move of the swarm before they even commit to it. It's why the Ultrasmurfs are so fast to react to Tyranid incursions.

No other psyker in the setting has done this, including Eldrad.

>>377376968
A lot of people forget the flood is also a "logic plague" what it can't assimilate with force, like an A.I., it corrupts with some form of logic that makes the opposing force empathize with it. Its tempting to say "thing" because its a good book and movie. Its also easy to shit on bungie.
But the flood literally ended not one not two but 3 galactic empires.

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>>377387424
I will explain to you what I did because I am the THING.
It was Childs

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>>377387192
They make vidya commercials with people like Mr T when my dude John Carpenter is actually a legit gamer. I've always liked his movies and now I like him even more.

>>377387583
Mt Kilimanjaro was fine in H3's last cutscene so it wasn't that much of the continent, Hood was just exaggerating because he was pissed in that cutscene

>>377379219
.t the thing

>>377387171
>And the humans aren't a gigantic telepathically biomass controlled by the fucking gravemind, now are they?

I mean if you think about it you're a biomass telepathically controlled by your brain.

>>377387291
>The only period of weakness for The Thing is when its in the middle of its assimilating process

Where it would be melted by the Xenomorphs acid blood.

>because The Thing can infect you with physical contact alone.

If a Thing infection were too violently strike a Xenomorph it'd spill acid blood everywhere, and a slow infection like the ones in the movie hardly seems possible due to it needing to reach its blood supply to spread to it's brain/internal organs.

It's all nonsense really, it just depends on wether or not the Thing could copy the Xeno's acid resistance before hitting its blood supply, which is completely debatable.

At this point this conversation is almost as retarded as that whole "no the thing copy the flood, no the flood copy the thing" conversation going on in this thread.

>>377387637

Objectively they are pretty close to the same thing and pretty evenly matched. It would come down to which one there was initially more of.

>>377380516
X and the thing probably merge and mutate. The new organism now has the ability to withstand harsh cold and can multiply too.

>>377387629
>Wankmarines
I constantly forget how fucking stupid they make some Marines. It's like Draigo all over again.

>>377387637

If you put the Flood on the same scale as The Thing in the movie (isolated and alone in a very remote corner of a planet), they're pretty even.

>>377380965
A graveminds doesn't really control the flood. They're like neurons in your brain.

>>377379219
No that's really not the question. If they were both infected then why would the Thing talk to itself and keep up the charade for nobody?

The question is whether one of them is infected or none of them.

>>377387749

I don't think the Thing could assimilate a xeno. But the infected Xeno would die as the Thing could at least take over its exoskeleton. It would come apart, mutually assured destruction.

The Thing would then just have to keep away from the xenos while exposing them to Thing cellular material. Once a single xeno takes some back to the hive...

>>377386887
http://www.bungie.net//images/Inside/publications/presentations/!Halo3_Flood_Alien_Level_Autopsy.zip

Look at that shit.

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Could the Thing or Flood fight against the Brethren Moon?

>>377386904
you wut mate

The Thing copies and corrupts EVERYTHING. It doesn't need to reach the blood. All the Thing needs to do is have ONE of it's cells come into contact with a Xenomorph body and the Xeno is fucked, even if it doesn't know it yet. From there it spreads across the exterior to all adjacent cells, and even if the blood is off-limits, it still turns the Xenomorphs NON-blood bits against it and rips it apart form the inside too force it to take whatever form it wants.

>>377383793
As long as The Thing is /v/'s head with the snail eyes and spidery legs

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>>377380564

>>377380965
A Gravemind would just corrupt the thing by infecting it with a logic plague.

Good thread lads, time for bed.

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Alright fellas, time for the big question.

How long does it take Kaldor Draigo to murder every single monster and alien mentioned in this thread, utterly and completely?

My bet's on three hours.

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>>377376968
i think the flood in conquering the galaxy because of its hive mind and extreme intelligence when it gets enormous

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Tyranids > all

If you try to assimilate a tyranid, it will end up assimilating YOU, not the other way around

>>377387749

>Where it would be melted by the Xenomorphs acid blood.

It absorbs and copies the Xenomorph cells that generate that acid, and its tissue which makes it resistant to it.

The Thing does not attack you through your blood, it attacks you on cellular level the instant it gets in physical contact with you. So the moment one Xenomoprh attacks a lump of Thing flesh, that Xenomorph is doomed.

And when the other Xenomorphs attempt to kill the infected Xenomorph because her pheromone doesn't smell familiar, The Thing affects the other Xenomorphs.

Only way the Xenomorphs win is if they have been dealing with Thing's shit for generations upon generations, and like ants eventually learn an instinctual habit of dealing with The Thing infectants with acid spit instead of physical contact.

This shit happens in nature already where ants carry their unfortunate sister infected by fungus away from the nest, to prevent further infection.

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>>377388085
>Ork Food
>Above anything

Dat's roit funny ya git

>>377388085
is that some galactic size tyranid or what am i looking at?

>>377388157
Don't know anything about WH40k here. Aren't Orks just sentient fungus?

>>377387906
A single fucking man took out a brethern moon. What do you think?
It all depends on which lifeform is stronger in terms of brute strength; Necromorph virus only infects dead tissue, but the Thing never really dies unless you burn it or explode it. Not to mention as soon as you touch it you're fucked.

>>377388057
trick question if he wasn't stuck in the warp all the xenos in the observable universe would be dead already

>>377387909
>NON-blood bits against it and rips it apart form the inside too force it to take whatever form it wants.

and in the fractions of a second needed to do this, any non blood bit touching the xenos blood would violently melt through itself. The Thing's cell take over doesn't happen instantly, and in that small time frame it would be melted.

>>377387865
Yeah, that makes sense.

>>377388089
Ants aren't full of molecular acid.

>>377388226
You still have to burn Thing tissue up to the point of vaporization to ensure it's fully dead though, as the two-face burnt corpse had enough life left in it to make a tentacle and infect Bennings.

>>377388057
He doesn't because he's locked in a Tzeentchan hallucination in which he thinks he's some end-all be-all badass that kills everything when in reality he's a pile of flesh and guts with just enough sentience left to register pain.

Fuck off, Matt Ward.

>>377386293
The assimilates in literal seconds. Their are multiple times this is witnessed. The flood can corrupt a hunter in seconds which is made up of thousands or organisms

>>377388208
>Take Fungus
>Advance it to the point of sentience
>Make it so said advance happens really really fast
>Make it so they keep advancing the more they fight
>Give them a gigantic pile of scrap and tell them they can do anything with it
>They literally do
>Now all they do is fight, and collect scrap, so they can fight some more
>This is the life of an Ork, forever.

Orks won 40k, but nobody knows it yet.

I always figured Mac and Childs were both infected and were just laughing about the situation because even if one was the thing and the other wasn't it doesn't matter because nobody would find them for months and they'd be buried under tons of snow by the time a rescue team got sent out.

>>377387749
It's complicated because on one side you have the Gravemind who could corrupt fucking Artificial intelligence, so why not The Thing?

On the other side, you have The Thing which would make the Flood become The Thing upon contact.

>>377388226
To be fair, the way Isaac and Carver defeated the Moon was a pretty big asspull.

>>377388208
Pretty much. I believe they have the most aggressive population grow rate of any enemy in 40k, and they pretty much indefinitely grow until they die violently.

>>377387906
Brother Moons are pretty weak against late game Flood. Maybe they could fuck early Flood over by removing their food source, but beyond that there's not much they'd be able to do.

That and the whole concept of making Necromorphs is a weird one.

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>>377388057
warhammer has the coolest fucking lore its too bad all the games that come out are shit. i wish i could just win the lotto and make a netflix series and video game series with an unlimited budget

The flood is one of the few sci-fi factions I could see competing in the 40K autismfest. Its greatest strength is its ability to quickly match their opponent in terms of intelligence and technological advancement.

>>377388367
WRONG. The Flood cannot infect a Hunter because they lack a central nervous system. Hunters are just colonies of alien worms.

And that's why The Thing>The Flood, Necromorphs, etc. Necromorphs and The Flood need functional bodies and can't do shit with the separated parts. The Thing can turn each individual cell into its own source of pandemic.

>>377388281

>Ants aren't full of molecular acid.

Xenomorphs aren't walking entities of acid either. The Thing touches their exoskeleton, it infects and copies the exoskeleton. From there it moves to the cells producing the acid while avoiding the acid itself, assimilates them, gains resistance to the acid and assimilated Xenomorph completely.

The Thing still doesn't attack you through blood you retard. It attacks you through skin contact. Unless the Xenomorph is permanently sweating acid in every single inch of its body, she's going to get infected if she touches The Thing.

>>377388206

The tyranids reaching Macragge represent all of the ones that the Ultramarines have already fought, those are the tiny little strands

The larger portion, outside of that, is all of the tyranids inside Ultramar, which is the space the Ultramarines have jurisdiction over

Outside of that is the estimated size of both Hive Fleet Kraken and Hive Fleet Behemoth. That's all the tyranids that they know about but haven't seen yet. All that orange is tyranids. And they had trouble dealing with those two little strands which reached Macragge.

And there's no telling how many of them there are, those orange portions are just parts of a larger fleet as well.

>>377387749
even if it didn't gain the resistance to the acid blood, it's not like that would kill it
it would melt through any part of the thing directly below the blood supply
we can see from the movies that alien blood is corrosive but it's not like a single drop on your body will turn you into a pile of goo, it would melt a hole through you because of gravity
the thing would get significantly less organic material after completely taking over an alien but the acid blood isn't an end-all
at the very least you'd end up with a thing-controlled alien scalp since the acid blood wouldn't be able to melt upward

>>377388541
This. No life form is safe from The Thing, meanwhile Master Chief steps in piles of Flood biomass and tracks it into numerous spaceships and nobody gives a fuck.
The Thing is way above The Flood in terms of how dangerous a threat it poses.

>>377388517
>The Thing takes its sweet time trying to get every worm out of the Hunter
>Meanwhile a Combat Form drives up in a Wraith and obliterates it completely

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>>377388662
could the thing even hurt chief in his armor though? wouldnt space marines wreck the thing all armored up and having daily fough demons straight from nightmares and skyscraper sized insects?

>>377388739
They would, you would only get infected if fluid of the thing managed to get inside you or you inhaled particles of it (which would probably only be possible in extreme humidity. You could probably get infected by The Thing sneezing at you.

>>377388541
Yeah, and the second the Thing's cells started infecting and compromising any cells or tissue touching the acid it would be melted, causing the alien to fall apart. Are Xenomorph exoskeletons even acid proof? I'd pretty sure Xenos even burn themselves a bit when they touch it. So assuming it was just the vein walls that could contain the acid, the Thing would get screwed trying to tamper with it.

>>377388632
well yeah, the Xeno would pop like a balloon.

>>377388281
My man, recall Alien Resurrection where the two drones eviscerate their buddy to melt throguh the containment cell.

Blood everywhere, but do you really think EVERY single cell of the xenomorph was touched? You can clearly see a body sitting there, ruined and lifeless, but still plenty of organic material left to infest.

The Thing can grow body from nothing; it's like an impossible space. You look at a small square and there's no way an entire skyscraper could fit in it, right? But the Thing does that with bodies. Whatever body it takes, from even a small amount of material it can grow whatever it needs to grow in order to infect others or move on its own.

I know you're saying xeno blood is deadly to Thing cells, and I don't disagree, but you cannot ask me to believe that upon wrenching open a xeno body, EVERY single viable cell would suddenly die and the Thing would fuck off forever. Hell, it's intelligent. It could snap open a limb and drain all the blood from that one limb while the rest of the body's perfectly fine.

>>377388739
assuming there's no gaps in the armor and the entire suit is a completely closed system, the thing wouldn't be able to infect them
however, if the suits aren't sealed properly the thing can theoretically get inside and infect them depending on a bunch of circumstances
no organic matter = nothing to assimilate

>>377387906
The moons are only really dangerous to sentient creatures that they can fuck with and turn into necromorphs.

I don't think they could do what they did to humanity to the flood, since you cannot really drive the flood into a madness where they think you are a god and willingly sacrifice themselves to become necromorphs.

>>377388739

>could the thing even hurt chief in his armor though?

No. For that The Thing needs to turn into those spiky monsters things to penetrate his armor and clothing to get that permanently fatal skin contact. Simple winter gloves can prevent The Thing from infecting you, which is why The Thing attacks you in secret or turns into spiky body horror if things if it gets caught and has no other options.

Except in the shitty new movie where it just bursts open for no fucking reason every single time. In the first film it infected one dude by simply walking up to him with human form, putting and putting his hand on the guy's face.

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There is only one that could take them all down

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>ctrl+f phyrexians
>0 results
Fucking amateurs, I swear. Literally The Thing but with magic.
>tfw no Mirrodin Beseiged survival horror game

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Behold, the bane of the Thing and the Flood

>>377388986
It's going to be really really hard to penetrate Spartan armor with bone. I'm not trying to be that guy, but the cloth part of their armor is still ballistic material.

>>377388847

>Yeah, and the second the Thing's cells started infecting and compromising any cells or tissue touching the acid it would be melted, causing the alien to fall apart.

Thing cells don't compromise it, they assimilate and copy it. Small infection takes a bit longer than a major one but it gradually takes over you without you even realizing it.

Thing isn't mindless either. If the first Xenomorph collapses on itself due to faulty assimilation, it learns from the mistake and goes for the cells producing acid and resistance to acid first.

Its a sentient, intelligent infection that makes perfect copies of its original versions. Its only weaknesses are if its caught in the middle of quick assimilation process, and the fact it can only infect by touching something with its own flesh- and skin tissue (cant go airborne).

>>377389218
And let's not forget the energy shields

>>377389096
You didn't post Orks

>>377389096
Necrons would actually be the supreme anti-Thing force. Not only are they mechanical, their weapons strip organic matter to its constituent molecules, so there's a good chance that its host body being hit by such a blast would actually kill the Thing too.

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>>377389218
These guys didn't seem to have much trouble.

>>377389351
Can Tyranids use ork biomatter?

>>377384556
Do you believe in Kierkegaard's "leap of faith" approach to absurdism, or Camus's "recognition"? Or do you think suicide the most sensible answer?

>>377389218

Then the Thing assimilates something with a gun. Thing can operate everything its victim can operate. And not in some clumsy way like Flood.

The biggest saving grace for Chief is the shield itself, that prevents any and all direct physical piercing of his armor. Thats why The Thing wouldn't try to turn into some huge monster to bring Chief down, but assimilate one of his friends, then in the right moment backstab with somehow.

>>377389351
>Organic lifeforms
>Against the Thing or Flood

Have you not been paying attention?