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NO EST OR KICK
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Friendly reminder that Leviathan is the new ERP server :3
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I am the bone of my ping
Lag is my body, and clipping is my blood
I have missed over a thousand GCDs
Unknown to low latency
Nor known to double weaving
Have withstood pain to clear many raids
Yet those connections will never improve anything
So, as I pray UNLIMITED MS WORKS
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Move to cali, baby!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wBTdfAkqGU
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>>377352804
I thought it was Mateus.
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EST cucks, you have 1 month to improve your dps or your statics will kick you
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>>377352491
They're removing double weaving next month according to media tour leaks. It's going to be revealed on the combat live letter stream on Monday.
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odds are wtfast or mudfish will fix double weaving if you live in the us
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>>377353518
I'm on east coast and mudfish dropped my ping from 120ms to 98ms. I get no more packet loss either so it's great.
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>>377352971
>>377353042
All this is spurring my State patriotism, maybe I'll start playing this game.
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>muh double weave
Does it actually matter or is it just tryhards being tryhards?
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>>377353857
Depends on who you ask. The majority of players don't even know what double weaving is. The only people throwing a fit about this are """hardcore""" players and speedrunners.
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>>377353473

how's that gonna work

other than fucking up rotations
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>>377353473
why the fuck don't they just make the combat system 100% client side instead
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>>377353968
Does not being able to double weave really ruin rotations?
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>all these crocodile tears from the least coast

Wew fucking lad, how's it feel?
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>>377353968
You can only do 1 oGCD per GCD timer. Potencies and skill effects will be adjusted so there won't be a noticeable DPS loss. That's the whole point of the "combat revamp".
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>no est or kick becomes the new skip soar
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>>377352804
So what exactly is erp? I never seen it in game but I always assumed it was cringy text base sex with a bunch of guys.
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LIVE IN SACRAMENTO OR KICK. I CAN'T BEAT OMEGA SAVAGE WITHOUT >10 PING.
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It's your own fault for living in that fuck huge continent.
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>>377354070
Terrible idea because anyone with cheat engine can hack the game to do crazy combat stuff like infinite swiftcast uses or permanent sprint.
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>>377354226
>sex with a bunch of guys
I mean, if that's your thing there's plenty of people who like gay shit in game. mostly roes
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>>377352491
:v)
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>>377354331
wat
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>do expert on nin
>everything clip
>fuck up my opener twice
>skills don't register
I want yoshi to die.
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>>377354096
>Potencies and skill effects will be adjusted so there won't be a noticeable DPS loss
Source for this bullshit.

There's no reason to do that when we're getting new skills, it would be easier to simply adjust the new skills accordigly.

If they even know about double weaving, that is.
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Califags report in
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>>377354734
>be west coast
>do expert on NIN
>nothing clips
>execute flawlessly
>10m run
>get 3 commendations

WEST COAST
BEST COAST
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>>377352491
i get about 80-85ms ping on the servers. Is this good enough or should I download some shady shit like wtfast
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>>377354734
>be bad
>blame someone else
I guess shitter have a new scapegoat with the server change.
>dude, how is your dps so low?
>it's these fucking servers, man
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>>377354454
No, he's exactly right. It's literally all dudes behind the screen and you know it.
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>>377354603
There's no latency issues in Japan or Korea since you don't need a plane to travel between coasts. America as a continent is in need of a diet.
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Are the official forums still drowning in salt and "hooray for me, the hell with everyone else" posts? Shit was funny.

I feel bad for East Coast players but y'all had to see it coming. No way would SE do something good without doing something else to cock it up.

Maybe they'll relocate again in another four years to Virginia so the cycle may continue.
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>be in Delaware
>have no problem with the game since data center move
Is everyone just shitposting?
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>there are media faggots who already got to play the new shit

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>377354921
And it's people's fault that a P2P game can't be decent enough to set up more than one datacenter or at least choose a better location?
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>>377355027
Non-American false flagging
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>>377354761
You're still going to be using your old skills with your new skills. They're adjusting old skills so they make sense with the new skills. Some old skills are long overdue for change like Bulwark and One Ilm Punch, those skills are still stuck with ARr 2.0 balance in mind
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>>377354810
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>>377355027

Now there are two DE posters in this thread. It's been mostly minor irritations to me- half a second less to dodge, some clipping when I play NIN or BRD, Cleric Stance being even less responsive than usual. Nothing game-breaking. Friend of mine a little farther east has been having hell though. But that's what he gets for living in the armpit of the US.
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>>377355131
Feels good man
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>>377352804
From the brief period of time I spent on Leviathan before they closed servers it's full of fucking weirdos so I think your lot would fit right in.
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>>377354907
>y-you know the person playing that qt catgril is a dude right?
So what? I'm not pretend fucking him (usually), I'm interested in his character. I mean, would it change anything to know all those chinese cartoon girls you fap too were drawn by middle aged men? No.
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>>377354810

951 waddup
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>>377355218
it's still pathetic, anon
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>>377355127
This has nothing to do with double weaving.
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>>377355262
818, have a lab report due tonight
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>EU on NA
>ping went up
>still going to stay on NA
It's not so bad.
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>>377353857
Tryhard shitters for sure. Actually good players aren't throwing bitchfits.
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>>377355324
I'll remember that when I'm pretend fucking some toon.
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>>377355218
Don't put your gay stutter ERP shit into my post. I don't speak like the faggots you help jerk off daily. It's literally two dudes whispering dirty shit in each other's ears and you have to play some real mental games to not let that get to you. That or you're into smoking cock. Ask if you can hand him a tissue next 'session.'
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>>377355027

you're probably playing via ethernet like you're supposed to
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>>377354907
Don't try to argue with it, it's living under a delusion while suppressing the known truth. Just call it gay cancer and move on.
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>>377354907
Confirmed for never RPing in any fucking game. RP communities are majority women, mostly housewives. But if you're just fishing for futa whore alts in the Quicksand then yeah, those are all men.
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>>377355065

I'd rather be complaining in a month than right now
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>>377354409
people already do that
infinite sprint is common
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>>377355262
>>377355332
What the fuck is the area code for Van Nuys? My number is still 323.
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>>377354810
415 (area code, not ping like east coast cucks lol). No homo.
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>>377355262
First time I've seen my area code posted here.
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>>377354810
650
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>>377355724
what
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>>377355410

This. I'm in the same boat and i genuinely feel zero difference to before.

The thing about milliseconds is that they're fucking milliseconds.
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>>377355805
>RP communities are majority women

HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THIS


AAHAHAHAHAHA

Poor deluded gay boi dont lie just because you cant handle the fact that you're a closeted faggot
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>>377352491
I fucking unsubbed.
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>>377356106
Seriously like 80% of RP communities are fucking housewives.
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>>377355805

/vg/ says otherwise.
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>>377352491
The last time I played this game was December of 2015.

Seeing as how it's been over a year, should I get back into FFXIV? I had a lot of fun with my FC back then, but I'm sure I'll have to start fresh socially.

If I started again, would it make more sense to start a new character or keep my current one and go back for those classes I missed?
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>>377356127
L O L O L
OBTFO
L
OBTFO
L
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>>377356254
That's not an RP community. That's a bunch of crazy tranny faggots who create drama for themselves and then sometimes typefuck in their weird ass internet relationships.
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>>377355805
This is screen-cap worthy. Well done.
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>>377356259
Don't make a new charater, that's a waste of time and you'll have to replay through all the story to get back to Stormblood.
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>>377354083
DRG has some transitions that require double weaving, and I'm not talking about opener, and yes, you can (=need to) pull them in every raid.
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>>377356259
>it's a cat
make a new character or buy a fantasia
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>>377356078
It's not that I don't feel any difference. There's small hiccups here and there, certain skills firing off on dead enemies, swiftcast not always registering immediately. Getting out of aoes in time is still fine, and it's not nearly as bad as I feared it could have been. I can still perform my rotations reliably, I just need to be prapared for shit going wrong if mechanics and lag fuck me at the same time. Overall it also feels like the game also plays a little slower, but I'm fine with that. I like the pace. Someone compared it to the ATB system of classic FFs, and I guess that sort of works.
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>>377356253
You cant generalize like that, i guarantee the vast majority of erpers on FFXIV are men

Unless you're on a fucking blacl butler anime forum or something, i promise you very few, if any, will ever be women
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>>377356259

Keep your original character so you don't have to slog through the early story again. If you want a refresher on it, you can get a room at an inn and revisit shit from the book in there. It takes as much EXP to get from 50-60 as it took to get from 1-50. You have a shitton of story to catch up on if you want to be ready for SB launch too,

Also you will get shit for playing a cat ITT, but you do you. Just don't be a potato.
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>>377356259

Don't get back into XIV.
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>>377356501
I don't understand, whats wrong with cats?
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>>377356501
>cats have the best running and idle animations
>hyurs run and stand around like a bunch of goobers
>elezen look horrible
>lalas are for ironic jackasses, while roes are for barafags
>lizards are the most tryhard race ever conceived in an mmo
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>>377356705
majority of the /vg/ thread are cats
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>just get used to it ahaha
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>>377356664
>It takes as much EXP to get from 50-60 as it took to get from 1-50.
This is a good point. I suppose I might resub, refresh on story, and see how it goes.
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>>377356716
only female miqotes
everything male cats do looks ugly and is the ugliest race in the game
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>>377356643
For people who only create a level 1 alt to ERP with futas? Yes, those are all men. But the people who legitimately RP and then fuck each other within the bounds of a contained storyline are housewives. You can find this out really fucking easily by getting into any RP FC and getting into their discord. They're all women so they're all super eager to post their pictures whenever possible.
>they're taking pictures from facebook!
Nah, they're all old/fat/ugly, with the occasional young tumblrina who's way too far up her own ass and thinks she's hot shit even though she has a massive fucking forehead.
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>>377356716
>cats have best running
LMAO
And I surely hope you aren't going to say you (role)play mainly as a female character (faggot).
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>>377356705

Most popluar race by far, so of course there are countless examples of retardation, faggotry, and general cringe from them. It's also the race of choice for the sentient slime mold that inhabit /xivg/. Lala are equally reviled even though they're not quite as numerous.
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>latency is almost 100 more than it used to be, now at 220
>game feels less laggy
huh
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>>377356716
>>lizards are the most tryhard race ever conceived in an mmo
what did he mean by this
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>have to convince myself not to resub to this literally everyday

I'm going to end up playing this before Stromblood comes out aren't I?
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Midwest here, zero change. Can still double weave

Scrubs, the lot of you.
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>>377357226
yep
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>>377357226
pussy punk bitch
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>>377357226
It built up with me until the servers went down, and I resubbed literally the minute servers were up again.
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>>377357250

>Servers moving from one extreme to another doesn't affect someone living in the middle

Boy howdy that's some strange stuff!
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>>377357226
I was gonna wait until the week of EA, but I think I'll probably dive back in at the end of May.
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>>377357226
Why wouldn't you? The content is going to be dead when SB comes out, might as well enjoy it now while also preparing for SB. I mean in general terms raising ilvl isn't the fastest, but relative to the history of FFXIV, it's as fast as it'll ever be now.
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>>377356937
Well it's not like im into that whole scene so it doesnt matter too much either way
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>>377357392

My connection got better if anything. Stay salty, casual low-parse
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>>377356127
Name? That is a bad bitch.
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>>377353938
So the people who care about the game the most?
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>>377356716
Hyurs are still the best race because the other ones are just degenerate and subhuman
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>>377356643
Actual roleplaying communities are similar to fanfic communities which are also majority women. That being said some slut offering gil for erp in limsa is prolly a dude
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>>377357226
The awful ping completely drained my enjoyment, I unsubbed but now I'm stuck with 27 days of nothing to do.
Nin is simply unplayable at 130ping.
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>play from Scotland on NA server since release because lmao montreal for EU servers so why the fuck not choose an NA
>now my ping is 200ms+ after the relocation

GET
FUCKING
FUCKED
AUSTIN POWERS
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>>377357142
>latency is 100 more than it used to be, now at 320
>game feels unplayable
I miss Montreal already
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Ew I just had the urge to fanta into a roe girl
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Sou Hei is a fucking autist.
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>>377357634
I agree and they fit every job, I just wish they looked better. We get pencil-necked dweebs and fugly retard men, whose arms clip through their gear as options.
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>All of these threads are now about NA ping
>Even unrelated Europeans talk about it

I know there's not much to else to talk about, but there sure has to be something better?
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>>377357674
Oi boyo spoff a curd in me brew
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>>377357674

>Why are you playing on NA servers if you don't live in NA lmao

I'm sorry bro. I wish SE and YoshiP weren't retarded. If it makes you feel better at all, my bro in NJ gets a better connection to the EU servers than NA now. It's all kinds of fucked up. And the worst part is, they'll never say anything to address it.
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IS ALL OF THE FF 14 THREAD GOING TO BE ABOUT PING SHIT. CAN YOU FUCKERS FUCK OFF
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pingas
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>>377357783
I almost did.
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>>377357845

No other news to talk about.
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>>377357804
I think they look great with the exception that some hats like flatter on them for some reason
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>>377357845
t. Butt blasted EST
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>>377357843
That's the fucking worst part. Nobody there is gonna admit its a huge fuck-up, unless someone like Yoshida commits sudoku, which we all know he won't because he's the fanboy favourite dev.
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>>377357907
I think roe females have this thing where they either look good or atrocious with like no middle ground
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What's the best way to go about selling a dead FC? We have over 230k points, a rank 50 airship with most areas unlocked, as well as the max aetherial wheel box, all in a small Lavender plot.
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>complain about the bad ping on the OF
>they all lose their shit on you
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>>377356812
>Works on my machine
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>>377357845
Yes, the threads are going to be about how they fucked over half the playerbase so they could save a few bucks from now on.
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>>377358408
>I went from 70ms to 80ms game is literally unplayable rrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>377358408
It's actually more like 70ms to 150ms but okay.
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>Yoshi relocates ervers to West Coast
>Commies spend a few days gloating over it
>Half the continent loses the will /ability to play
>Game withers and dies on the vine as the player base drastically shrinks

NorCal fag here, It only makes me happy to know that every single person spamming 'le goldfaec' will lose their MMO in 2 years because of this.
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>>377358631
>Half the continent loses the will /ability to play
You're retarded if you really think this is true.
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>>377358730
My FC is being practically cut in half because of this server relocation. YOU'RE fucking retarded if you think this won't have long term drastic impacts on the player base.
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>>377358528
More like 30ms to 160ms.
t leaf
Fuck commiefornia
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>>377358839
Oh no, 3 of the 6 shitters in your FC arent ERPing any more.
Fuck off and cry more, faggot.
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>>377357783
We've all been there at some point. I think.

I've fantasia'd atleast 10 times at this point but I always end up going back to my original form. So just stick with what you got now.
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>>377352804
Fuck off we're full
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>>377358730
You're right it's more, south america and europe also lost the ability to play.
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>tfw went from 100 ping to 20
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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DOUBLE WEAVE MY ERP

YOSHI-P HAS LITERALLY RUINED MY FAVORITE WAY OF EXPRESSING MYSELF THROUGH DANCING CATGIRLS
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>>377358987
So you're saying I should transfer there now that Gigameme is closed forever
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>>377353440
Only a very small margin will even be able to do this. they have never had to really dodge an AoE ever. it's just easier for them to unsub and play WoW rather than git gud
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>>377359102
But erpers are from the west coast.
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Are they going to add a new way to track debuffs? I hate the shit they have now.
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>>377358902
It's somewhere in the realm of 40-45 relocating. By all means continue to gloat, enjoy the ghost towns of your server as blocks to Nu-Balmung and player base shrinkage make every server Low-HowHi server pop retard. This benefits an excessively small portion of the player base at the detriment of a much larger, and as you're finding out, very vocal portion of the player base. If you could put away 'le smog frg' for 30 seconds, you'd realize that.
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>>377358471
I went from 20ms to 100ms
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>>377357810
Nah this safe zone crybabbying is too hilarious to not watch and also kindle further. There's a reason why these Wojak images are used satirically and it's hilarious.
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>>377358839
Quit avatarfagging cuck, I saw you in that Destiny thread.
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I feel bad for people who got fucked by the move, but since I didn't, this is kind of fun to watch.
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>Owned the original FF14 (I think I got it on sale years ago)
>See Stormblood finally adding RDM
>I was a RDM main in FF11
>Redownload, resub, but don't buy Heavensward or anything
>Play for one day
>"We're migrating servers!"
>Two days of down time
>Can finally play again
>Every 10 minutes I get DC'd even though I'm in Oregon and should have a solid connection to fucking california
>Can't even play the game

Really sucks, I have a month to hit 50 so I can unlock RDM when the expansion's out.
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>>377359214

Probably. Revamp of the UI for buff tracking is one of the big things they teased for SB. I wouldn't be surprised if it extended to debuffs as well.

I mean, they could just make sure that DoTs and debuffs you apply always show up before other's on your screen, but that would mean putting work in. And that's horrible.
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>>377359320
Different person, no idea who you're talking about.
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>>377359421
But they do, not to mention your effects have a green number instead of white
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>>377359487
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>>377357751
I know that feel and i know too fucking well
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>>377359345
Stop living in fucking Burns or something you goober.
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>le entire mmo is going to sink e-enjoy your ping commies h-haha! rekt xd
Your tears are uma delicia.
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>>377359557

But if both lines are full when you apply yours, they simply never show up. You have to guess or keep track in your head in that case.
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>130ping
I cannot understand the third worlders saying they're used to it.
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>>377357907
I like your style.
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>>377354810
WHERE MY 916 MEN
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Expansion now renamed Saltblood, amirite east coast?
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>>377357751
>>377359587
sucks to be a Yuropoor
>meanwhile in America
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>>377359690
When you don't know anything better it doesn't matter.
is that or nothing.
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>>377354810
5 1 0
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>>377358031

I think they'd be great if they had wider hips : (
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>>377359690

They don't know what it's like to play with a good connection so they shit on others for pointing out that 120+ might be playable but it's still shit. I'd feel bad for them if they didn't try to so hard to brag about having to work harder to be average.
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>>377354810
west sac here. my ping ping is 6 ahahahahahahaha. stormblood gonna be fucking great. i'll be level 70 sam by the time the average Gilgamesh player gets to log in lmfao
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>>377360001
60ms and 120ms feels the damn same in this slow ass mmo
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>>377360001
Nobody say that everyone knows that is fucking shit.
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>>377360039

I'm paying a powerleveller to level my SAM. Enjoy your monotony.
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>>377360039
Feels good, ill be 70 RDM before they can finish pissing in the morning
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>>377360102
Maybe if you are a paladin.
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>>377360154
Levelling is easy as fuck in FF, do you pay someone to wipe your ass too?
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>you will never play a LAN version of Final Fantasy XIV with 1ms latency
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>>377352971
What servers are in CA?
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>playing at 300ms does not affect my performance
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>>377360254
Is fucking boring though.
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>east coast fags in literal tears
my sides
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>>377360137

Have you even read the threads Anon? There's posts like

>I cleared FCoB with 240 ping hiking up a mountain BOTH WAYS with a wailing infant strapped to my back

all through ITT and the archives. Some of it might be false-flagging, some of it is genuine "I eat cold diarrhea all the time so you guys shouldn't complain about eating hot shit".
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>>377360254

No but our maid pretty much does everything for me while at home.
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>>377360393
There is always someone like that if not a fucking br is a fucking dingo fucker.
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>>377359852
just play man ra
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The only thing even moderately surprising about this is that there are still people who, after four years of being second class customers, are surprised that they're getting fucking shafted again.
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>>377359019
Wouldn't South America be closer to the servers now?
Doesn't Europe already have their own servers?
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>>377360521
I have a kid to do that.
He also plays on my FFXIV character while I work , welcome to the normie life.
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>>377360337
Listen you prissy little bitch. Unless you're eu or aus you ain't playing with 300 ping.
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>>377360631

no
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>>377360723

Except your breedling clusterwhole of genetics requires upkeep. My father pays for our maid and doesn't require constant attention.
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>>377360521
Mine doesnt wipe my ass though, does yours?
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>>377359852
If this game's character models actually had ass and hips, you would absolutely see more female roegadyn around. Their whole asthetic is held back by forced flat ass on everyone.
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>>377360358
Just get some friends and make penis jokes while you mindlessly tear through dungeons or palace
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>>377360779
You ever try to fuck your maid?
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>>377360728
There are people in Maine and Newfoundland getting 300ms now, some approaching 400ms.
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>>377360779
Underage AND still lives with his parents? Oh my..
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>>377360919
Please understand
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>>377360952
>underage

I'm 24, my father is gone 9 months out of the year. I stay at home and never have to work, and I'm a 99th percentile MCH.

How's it feel to be inferior to me in every way?
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>>377360661
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>>377360952
>Underage AND still lives with his parents?

wouldn't the former imply the latter?
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>it never even occurred to me to try double-weaving until people started complaining after the server move
>if it had I wouldn't have bothered anyway due to figuring it's up to a coin flip whether some tiny lag spike might come at the wrong time, and there not being *that* many goddamn OGCDs that should 100% be on cooldown to worry about pushing them out ~2 seconds faster in the hopes a fight lasts long enough you might get a single additional use of one or two of them
And in the end, my ping going up by 50 doesn't affect me in the slightest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4OnQpwjkc
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>>377361062
>24
>lives with his parents

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA, SURE SHOWED ME WITH THAT SUPERIORITY

AHAHAHA
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>>377361070
Huh, learn something new every day.
Cool pictures, thanks.

Where is the European data center located?
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How f*cking DARE you lot bite the hand that feeds you. Yoshi p works very hard to keep these servers running and you are all being very inconsiderate of someone that is trying to give you a good experience. You are all ingrates and don't deserve the privilege to play this game
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>>377361113

Yes. He's a typical wageslave idiot with no capacity for intelligent thought.
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>>377361113
Not always :(
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>>377361239
Also, Cali represent!
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>>377361201

And I have a virtually unlimited spending budget and a non-beaner maid to clean up.

Enjoy your steam code begging threads while I never have to work or need a single thing in my life.
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>>377361190
see>>377360393
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>>377361290
Don't feel too bad, boomers ruined the housing market. The only way you'll be able to live independently is by rooming with other people, and even then its going to be less than ideal.
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Is XI worth going back to? At least then the shitty servers didn't really affect the game (beyond lol nm pulls)
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>>377357007
No, hyur are the most popular race. You can't really tell though because of bots but they probably aren't included in the "active players" of the census anyways.
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>>377361201
I'M 27 and still live with my parents.
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>>377360661

EU players were still using NA servers for a variety of reasons. One of the main ones being no real incentive to transfer to Chaos (transfer bonuses were only offered if you left before the move- you got fuckall for joining).

SA players have shit internet in general and are being routed very fucking far away before reaching Cali. There's nothing they can do about it- it's all in how the undersea cables leading out of their shitholes work.
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>>377361449

I'm 26 and I just moved out for the first time 2 months ago
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>>377360631
>think au ra dudes are sexy as fuck
>most people make their faces look butt ugly and cross-eyed
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>>377361413

The last census had cats as the most popular, followed by Hyurs. I'm sure they know how to exclude most of the bots from the count.
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>these threads will be nothing but constant pingposting till the live letter

Well fuck
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>>377361364
>keeps putting forth his NEET status

Oh man, really blowing me out of the water, you're such a winner!
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>>377361572
Way to go. Jacking it way more?
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>>377361525
Wouldn't a bonus for using EU servers be lower ping?
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>>377360661
SA seems to be getting retarded shit like connecting to spain before going to the servers
EU players on NA servers are either longterm people who dont want to leave their friends or people like me who dont want to play in a language melting pot
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>>377361658

Nah. I mean I already jacked it plenty, hasn't really changed

I do keep my sleeve out on the bathroom sink now though
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>>377361634
Only 4 more days.
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>>377361607
There are only two decent faces and one looks really bad doing any sort of expression other than the default... Actually they both do
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>>377361623
If only we could get midlander tits on cats.
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>>377361449
No NEET ever does anything worthwhile with their "unlimited time" and just shun real women in an effort to pretend they dont want what they cant have
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>>377361623
https://ffxivcensus.com/
I'm talking about this, more specifically. I'm not sure if these active players that are male hyur could be bots, unless people are buying those grinded accounts and not fantasia-ing off the most basic male hyur model.
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>>>/vg/
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>>377361686

They were used to playing on NA (~110-130 ping for the most part - perfectly playable if you're not in the top 1% of raiders or a NIN main), and it's not like they could take all their housing or gil or friends with them by transferring. Also, when Chaos was moved, there was no indication whatsoever that NA would also be moved somewhere down the line. They had every reason to believe things would stay the same.
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>>377361882
Wait i'm retarded, it's still "all players". Not sure how the official census would count out bots though.
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>>377361956
Well, I guess they can move now before SB housing becomes available.
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>>377359345
Where in Oregano?
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>>377361525
Connecting to East USA is way, way better than West for Brazilians. I'm still didnt try the game, but i will leave if it got bad for me. Peruvians otherwise, probably got better ping with a move to california
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>>377362028
>PeruANOs over Brazilian shitmonkeys
Hmmm I'll take it.
>>
>east coast speedkill autists btfo
>balmung ERPers btfo
>gilgamesh bandwagoners btfo
based YoshiP saving the game again
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>>377361638

I am a winner though, commoner.
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>>377355027
Maine here and I have no idea why people are complaining so much
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>>377362270
>forgot that fucking BRs and Yuropoors got shit on too
truly based
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>>377352491
>tfw live in cali
fuck yes
>>
I can still double weave, barely. What I can't do is utilize Machinist's rapid fire without retarded delay between weaponskills.
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>>377359345
>dat over-saturated Frontier DSL
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>>377362515
>NEET who lives with his parents
>"Commoner"

Fuck i cant breathe, there are not enough goldfaces in the world for this, if this is bait, it's excellent
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>>377355131
how do you see this
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>>377353857
DRG opener is impossible to do optimally without double weaving.
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>Be EUfag
>American friends convince me to buy the game and play with them on their NA server two months ago
>Suddenly this shit happens

What the actual fuck am I supposed to do now
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>>377362787

task manager -> performance tab -> open resource monitor -> network tab
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>>377362920
Just cast Litany before HT and BotD between eviscerate and CT
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>>377363079
thank you.
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>>377362161
Say what you will about Brazilians, at least we do raid and all the content. Willing to bet others SA post on the FFXIV general.
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>>377363151
>Litany before HT
and fuck over everyone else that doesnt need crit that early on, not terrible i suppose
>BotD between eviscerate and CT
you mean between disembowel and CT? Potion is there and that's a 2-ogcd length weave by itself because of how laggy the potion animation is. Potion + 1 ogcd is basically a triple weave.
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What's the best rotation for bard? Is it good to start casting foes before pull, or a barrage+aetherial arrow? Should I pop all my damage increasing CDs at the start, or weave them in?
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>>377363428
Fuck potions. Never had to use them for raiding, they're a big meme as far as i'm concerned
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1 0 0 m s
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>>377354810
530 reporting in
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>>377363653
On the one hand I agree. Potions are honestly more trouble than they're worth, take up hotbar space, and barely add much damage while being on very long cool downs.
On the other, you can buy super cheap mega pots from a vendor in Ishgard, and it's easy to get stacks of draconian potions from doing treasure maps and aquapolis.
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>>377363645

If you can use Nocked Arrow, don't use Barrage. They're the same potency but Barrage costs more TP. The only advantage is that it's ranged, but since BRD is now a casting turret, that usefulness is diminished.

Start singing so your cast is done when the tank pulls.

My BRD friends who play it seriously don't use Wanderer's Paeon until after they're done certain shit, and they weave stuff. I don't know the full rotation.
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>went from 60 ping to 100
>notice no difference whatsoever
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>>377364048
>barely add much damage while being on very long cool downs.
It's like having a second weapon for 10 seconds. Potions are fantastic for phases where you need a quick burn.
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>>377354810
vegas bro here
glad to see you guys are having a good day as well
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whats the ip for the server? How do I test my ping
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>>377362929
Get used to it, the game is still playable at 200ms yoshi said so :^)
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>>377364249
>>377363079
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>>377363079
Tfw went from 200 ping to 30 ping

Now you east coasters get to feel what I felt
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>>377364064
Anon, barrage doesn't cost tp and is the buff that makes the next weaponskill hit 3 times with no crits. You're thinking of the ranged AOE attack named wide volley. Also it's not "Nocked arrow" it's "quick nock". Also the casting stance is called a minuet, paean is the move that removes a debuff from an ally.
It's interesting that your friend doesn't start with Minuet though. I would have to wonder if he turns it on before or after his DOTs too...
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>>377364351
https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/character_name/salora%20aruhn/balmung/na#

>15% blue percentile echo baby balmongoloid says it's ok
oh shit
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>>377364083
Do you play paladin
Do you know how to play your job
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Sohm Al Hard when both DPS refuse to AoE, the white mage refuses to DPS and I'm a paladin is preeeetty slow.
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>>377364351
He should have checked my fflogs before posting.
I'm as shit as him, but at least I'm not on balmung.
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>>377364568

Glad you got the gist. I'm not sure if it's his own opener or one he read somewhere else but he's always doing huge deeps. English names are hard. Who translates your stuff? That weaboo Fox guy?
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>>377364938

Ugly ass art
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>>377364819
I had this Sohm Al party yesterday. I'm a pretty bad drk but at least not sub 1k brd or double digit sch bad
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>>377364819
if the dps aren't aoeing your whm will oom before everything is dead if they do their aoe dps
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>>377352491

I don't even play this shit anymore, but seeing East Coast fags get BTFO so hard is great. You New Englanders are such fucking cunts.
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>tfw playing on satellite Internet out on a farm on the coast in Nova Scotia

FUCKING YOSHI
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>>377352491
Are the servers so shitty that east coast pings are that much worse than west coast, or what?
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>>377365432
Do you fug the animals?
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>>377363079
What if you're running something like Pingzapper?
>>
I'd play the trial, but I don't want to download 20gb just for that
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>>377365276
how did you set up ACT for in game like that
I always have to alt tab out of game to view it
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>>377365556
ok
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>>377362526
>Go from 20ms to 120ms
Yeah I wonder
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>>377364586
they have the clear, you don't. keep crying
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>>377363869
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>>377364938
Cute ass art
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>switch from lalafell to highlander

feels like I'm playing a different game wtf
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>>377365648
Windowed Fullscreen my man.
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>>377365532

it should show the ping that the process itself is getting anyways
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>>377366160
So I guess I'm hovering around 190 ms. Could be a hell of a lot worse.
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>>377365648
Rainbowmage ACT overlay
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>>377365843
https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/character_name/daijoubu%20desu/leviathan/na#partition=1

come again, trashcan?
go back to your green parse runs, shitter
>>
Remember to kick people who need shit iike wtfast or pingzapper.
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>>377356078
Man its just 100000ms man its just milliseconds man
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>>377355410
what was your before and after?
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>>377366413
>Daijoubu Desu

Lol you guys werent kidding about leviathan
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>>377366413
Grats, you linked a random profile from the logs.

The triggering is real.
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>>377366715
Never bothered to check what it was before, after seems to be 170-180 or so.
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>>377366413
You never play with the same people, but all of them are still 90th
What kind of PF do you join
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>>377364694
40 ping increase is 2.4 frames, it's barely anything
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>>377364819
Honestly you don't deserve anything since you played PLD.
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>put up a beastkin blood for 4 million gil
>some fucker actually bought it

The economy in this game vexes me
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>>377367014
It has nothing to do with frames you soft cunt.
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>>377367379
I had someone buy metallic purple dyes I had listed for 10,000,000 for some reason.
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>>377367731
Oh I forgot to mention I listed them like that for the pseudo-inventory space trick because I got tired of dyes cluttering my inventory.
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>>377367014
It would be barely anything except that FFXIV's netcode is an embarrassment. There are tangible, measurable effects on the gameplay of a lot of classes almost as soon as you get above 50ms, even though you actually should be able to perform just fine even at the 200ms that SE says is fine.
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>>377367959
>be skill fag autist
>complain that ping ruins my naruto
>Yoshi being the good guy makes it client side so ping no longer affects it
>skill fag still complainw hen ping spikes despite the fact it no longers makes a differnce

Fuck off ya autist, it changed nothing and you know it. You just want to find something to complain about cause oh no the server move made me gain 10 whole ms
>>
Is 120 ping good? I never played attention to my latency and probably got used to it.
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>>377368621
If this were a fps generally anything below 120 is considered green or good ping. Above 120 to about 160 is yellow ping, then above 160 is red and bad ping
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How do you mini cactpot, anon? I always go for the 10k even though it hardly ever works out.
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>live in Kansas City
>ping stays the same

Sometimes living the middle of the country pays off.
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>>377368771
Go for 10,000 or 1,000. Basically get more back than what you pay for.

>>377368827
"Gee it's finally nice to have our town back the way it was before the tornado hit us." WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH.
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>>377368910
>kansas city
>town

wew lad
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>>377368771
http://super-aardvark.github.io/yuryu/
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>>377360728
SA player here.

I'm playing with 300 ping.
>>377361525
> being routed very fucking far away before reaching Cali.

But that is wrong. We are not. Just one ISP is doing that.
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>>377368720
What does that mean though? Isn't ffxiv an mmo?
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>>377369026
>But that is wrong.

Is it? US internet infrastructure is a complete joke to a lot of other countries in the world.
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>>377368621
I'm 130 and nin is unplayable.
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akiko you're a cool guy
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>>377368621
It's not good
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>>377368621
120 ping is 1 second delay. Here's hoping SE does something about it.
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>>377369074
It is, basically it means anything under 120 ping is what is considered good, for mmos you can stretch it a bit since you don't need quick reactions. SO anything below 160 is good ping for ff14. SQ recommends 200ms or less so you good.
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>>377369023
The fuck is this
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>>377369252
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>>377369252
Oh well that sucks. So should I stick to slower jobs like black mage? Thanks for your advice, I just started playing this week
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>Had to buy a VPN just to get sub 70ms ping
>In a first world country
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>>377369265
Seems to be a probabability calculator for the mini cactpot
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>>377369570
Well depends what you want to do, the only classes that really need the super fast button pushes currently are dragoon and ninja. But even they are just fine since most stuff in client side. People complaining are just being silly.
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>>377369616
>tfw went from 130ms to 18ms
HAHAHAHA FUCK YOU
I PLAY BLM AND DON'T EVEN NEED IT
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>>377369215
>Here's hoping SE does something about it
Ha, here is all the help SE will give you.

Please contact you ISP.
Consider getting a VPN
Have you tried restarting your router?
Consider closing all programs before launching ffxiv


Please understand
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>>377369791
Ugh. Don't remember.

Getting a VPN is the last thing I should have to do in America just to play a game. WTFast looks appealing.
>>
Any Califags enjoying watching the EST idiots absolutely melt down over the shit we've been dealing with for four years? Like, REALLY enjoying it? I never used to enter these threads but watching the constant stream of tears is just...I can't look away.
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>>377369265
You start by picking a spot on your card, see what the number is, and then put it into that calculator. Base on what's revealed, it'll then tell you which spots are the most potentially profitable in the current spread(green boxes), followed by the line you should choose after your scratches for the highest possible payout. Following its advice over time should lead to you getting more MGP unless RNGesus just absolutely fucks you raw multiple times every day for months. The changing numbers you see along each line are the average reward that line is worth given that particular step. If you get to a step that has more than one box highlighted in green, pick one at random and continue.
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>>377369857
You could, you know....stop playing?

SE doesn't care for any place outside Japan
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>>377369869
Ping was never a problem for me but it's still funny watching least coasters throw shitfits
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>>377369869

We'll all be crying when the announce the removal of double weaving in the live letter next week.
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>>377369869
As a BLM main, I never knew the sweet nectar of double weaving. I'm power-leveling my NIN right now to cash in on my new and improved ping.

Thanks Yoshi-P!
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>>377369869
>
>>377369776

I remember so much during ARR dying to titan when I dodged full seconds in advance to his shit. Did a run last night fucking glorious retribution.
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>>377369869
Enjoy your west coast exclusive title. Dead game in the east, dead game in Europe, and dead game in aussie land.

Dead game.

Please understand.
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>>377369869

it's ridiculous, i played with 120-140 ping for a few years, then upgraded my service and got around 80, had zero issues the whole time. now with the new server location my ping is like 10 and i still hardly notice a difference with double weaves. i don't understand where all the bitching is coming from
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>>377369857
>WTFast

WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE FALLING FOR THIS FUCKING MEME VPN ITS LITERALLY A RIPOFF

MUDFISH IS ONE TIME FEE FOR $5 AND IT WORKS FOR REDUCING YOUR PING, WTFAST IS $10 MONTHLY FOR THE SAME JOB
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>>377352491
Once again SE shows their ignorance of MMOs and yet makes bank off the Final Fantasy name alone. You'd think after a decade and a half of working on a couple of MMO's they'd learn some valuable lessons but nope.

I'm not surprised to be honest. I mean it took them 3 years to label chocobos as pets instead of party members, or so I hear. If it weren't for the WoW template they'd seriously have no fucking idea what they were doing.
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>>377356787
>hello i am butthurt over nothing but of /vg/
do you suffer from autism?
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>>377370117
See you next thread.

Don't forget to renew your subscription to ffxiv!
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Lol this thread. Everytime a fucking east coaster cries, at least 5 west coasters shit all over them, hahahaha i love it.
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>>377370153
I'm glad I posted WTFast because I couldn't remember what the other was.

Thank you, anon. I wasn't going to get WTFast but I figured if I posted it, someone would suggest the one I forgot.
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>>377369869
You say you were fine, but to me you were already shitters.
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>>377370153
Oh don't forget that with mudfish you pay per traffic.
So 5 dollars will net you a shit ton of gameplay time.
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>>377370153
>MUDFISH IS ONE TIME FEE FOR $5
It's $5 for about 30GB of pre-paid bandwith.
Which to be fair will last you like a year or more assuming you're not-retarded and don't download patches while it's active, but still.
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>>377370302
East Coasters aren't happy for valid reasons. Very little people can do outside get a VPN now.

We were hoping for more middle ground like Texas.
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>>377370117

Good, I encourage all East babies to leave the game and never come back.
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>>377370117
We will, don't let the door hit you on the way out lmao
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>>377364372
It really is for most people.
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>ever wanting to live in least coast

for what purpose
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>>377370014
Isn't just rumor?Also hope they plan to replace double weaving with something else that add a bit of depth to the game.
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>>377369869
I was joking with a friend from upstate NY last night about how if we were both jacking off to Momodi, I'd finish a tenth of a second sooner and his nut would technically be sloppy seconds, if that counts.
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>>377370424
west coast had do deal with the bullshit for years. you aren't special
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>>377370559
West coast think erp and hosing are the end game content.
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>>377369869
not really, im just happy the servers are in my state, i feel bad for my EU friends
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>>377370424
The majority of NA players are in the west coast.
Why wouldn't they change the servers to the west coast?

We've been playing with shitty ping for years. Why can't you guys just go back to WoW?
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>>377370559
West Coast has better internet infrastructure and liberals. No sense arguing with someone like that I guess.
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t. EU
(???)
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about to start a THM

tips?
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I dont understand why they felt the need to move the servers anyway

Did it actually improve anything? Like, are things more stable or did they basically just shuffle pings around like assholes
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>>377370696

fire then ice then fire again
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>>377370558
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>>377370659
That may be true, but still a good hit to their sub base will still hit their wallets and quarterly incomes.
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>>377370695
has nothing to do with your latency, retard
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>>377370696
Memorize enemy patterns and the damage of their attacks, so that you only move when you absolutely need to.
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>>377370757
Whats thunder for
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>>377370696
blizzard is broken and costs no mp

just spam it
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>>377370153
wait i thought mudfish was $5 a month
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>>377370724
It improved things for some people, and judging by a lot of folks on the East Coast, really hurt them. Of course I'm in Georgia and didn't get much of a change.
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>dumb west coast players forget that they still have to play with laggy east coast players when the servers could have been in central where nobody lags

>>377370659
source
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>>377370817

procs, once you get the thundercloud trait
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>>377370559

>East coasters were used to the same ping since the game launched
>Suddenly thousands of players now have to adjust because yoshi has autism
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>>377370635
yeah yeah yeah kid, the only one erping from now on is going to be your FC lmao get rekt shitter. i'm willing to bet you never even cleared A3. go play runescape fag. you're ffxiv days are over
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>>377370786
Whatever you say buddy boy :^)
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>>377352804
Wait for real?

I haven't seen anything outside of random slutty cats running around.

That and the dancing guy in Limsa whose name I can't pronounce, but he's doing the Manderville forever.
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>>377370875

I don't give a shit if you lag or not, EST child. If you're good you'll be able to compensate. That's a big "if" though.
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>>377370659
>The majority of NA only live in one state.
What about canadians
And euros
And SA
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>>377370875

the only people that want this are people that live in flyovers

what they should have is one west datacenter and one east datacenter
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>>377370854
You pay for prepaid data, there's no monthly fee. Pay $5 once, get 40GB worth of data. FFXIV uses kilobytes worth of data during gameplay so this will last you easily for years. You're saving $100+ going with mudfish over wtfast.
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>>377370424
would it be possible to set up more then one server? like one on the west coast and one on the east coast?
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>>377370962
He's still dancing? He only pays his sub to have his catboy eternally dance the dance of sorrow.
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>>377370659
>The majority of NA players are in the west coast.

Source: My ass.
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Let me tell you how much of this shit is east coast baddies being shitters by using my group of friends as an example.

>Be me
>BLM and Pally main
>Top dos as BLM, just do my job as pally cause they have negative dps
>never once complain about lag even with aoes hitting me that I clearly dodge
>New server
>Dodge more AEs about same dmg

>Friend plays healer
>ping is about 80 worse for him
>doesn't complain doesn't really care

>2nd friend
>plays ninja and bard
>loses about 80 ping as well (they were both IRL friends before hand so live in same state)
>always does about 3rd dmg in alliances and 2nd in parties.
>complains that his dmg is low cause servers have moved.

Thats the fact of the matter, shitters are complaing to have complaints.

We have known the server transfers were happening for a while. Any of you autist could have and SHOULD HAVE showed recorded your dps on testing dummies just before the server switch and just after. Why didn't you do it? Oh cause it didn't change anything thats why.
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>your connection to the server was lost
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>>377371015
that amazing im going to have to try that for a different mmo
thank you anon
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>>377370963
You want party latency to be tilted that much when it could have been even? You're kind of an idiot aren't you?
>>377371001
Why would anything good happen?
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>>377371016
Look at WoW. Has three data centers and several servers for each. One in New York, one in Texas, and one in California. My pings to west coast servers average from 75-90.
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>>377370903
so you just admitted west coast players are better at playing the game than the east coast
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>Aether - Atlanta
>Primal - Portland

There, now everyone in the continental US gets sub 50ms ping.
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>>377370854
It's $5 for 30(or was it 40?)GB of data transfer. Assuming you make sure it's not used for anything but playing the game, that should last you at least a couple years unless you stay logged in 18 hours a day or idle in town when you go to sleep without shutting your computer down for the night.
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is WTFast worth getting premium for?
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>live in Texas
>nothing changed
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>>377371023
he still dances. someone in my fc says they waved at him and he waved back, but I call bullshit, that Manderville-ing cat will be afk forever, but somehow still be max level immediately in Stormblood.
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>>377371263
mudfish
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>>377369869
Reporting in top kek
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>>377371074
some classes require better ping right? I would think ninja would be one of them

>>377371143
lets hope east coast gets some. even though Im west coast I know the pains of ping related issues.
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>>377371284
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>>377371271
i love jibanyan
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>>377370153
>>377370854
>>377371015
But to be fair at least for me Mudfish doesn't do anything. Wtfast actually reduces my ping, not by much though so I don't bother with it.
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>>377371127

It's the same amount of tilt as it's always been, just inversed. Cry about it more and maybe Yoshi will move the servers again in four years.
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>>377370767
Not gonna happen.
West coast players played like this for years.
East coast players will just get a VPN.

>>377370724
Ping was never the reason why they moved in the first place.

>>377370875
>source

SE decision. Check the forums. The majority of players are Ok with the change.

>>377370980
>canadians

Just contact your ISP, and complain. Or get a VPN, if your ping is below 200, you are good to go.
>euros
They have their own server
>SA

Nobody cares, they have shitty computers/ISP.
The game was never meant to be played by them.
It makes me happy knowing that I will probably never have to deal with SA players again.
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>east coast have to actually dodge AoE's now
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>>377371263
NO reason to use wtfast over mudfish unless you're a dumbass gamer that wants to get scammed
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>>377370117
>"D-DEAD GAME! DEADGAMEDEADGAMEDEADGAME!!!!!!"

look at him cry
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>82 ping in the midwest

Acceptable
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>>377371543
>acceptable
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>>377370558
T-true friendship..
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>>377371365
Works for me. You have to choose different nodes on mudfish to see which route works best for you. I'm in Florida so using the chain route from Miami to San Jose cuts my ping nearly in half.
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>>377370117
>dead game in Europe
>Squeenix is adding more Euro servers when the expansion launches

Sure
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>>377371516
he's a little bitch and is in every thread crying like that. he's prob gonna kill himself
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I don't give two shits about ping affecting DPS

But ever since the server move, everything has been sluggish as fuck. Inventory/store transactions take twice as long, gathering is now completely unbearable, and things like swiftcast literally just don't work anymore

It's absolutely not worth playing anymore. I'd be totally okay if it was just AoE's being a little bit tighter or whatever
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It's like I'm still in 2005 with a shitty pc, very nostalgic.
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est drg here, I get no problems at all so I guess this bad connection thing must be a meme.
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>>377371651
It's likely
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>>377371630
Yeah I think it depends. For some people Mudfish will work better and for some Wtfast will. For some people neither will do anything.
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>>377371418
Of course it is mongoloid. Montreal was a terrible spot and this is also a terrible spot. They made this decision because it was cheap and they had ties to NTT.
>>377371428
I see nothing about "a majority of players being on the west coast"
>The majority of players are Ok with the change.
source
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>>377371680
Drgs have animation lock either way, they don't notice it as much as nin or mch.
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>download XI for the free login period
>it's literally more responsive than XIV now after the server move
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>>377355218
I ERP with tons of people, some of them are guys irl, others girls. Some old, some ugly and some fat and ugly. Some are couples. Some are gay as fuck, others straight but still do samesex shit.

We are all a bunch of nerds who like roleplay, tabletop and other stuff. And sometimes we'll RP dicks going into places, not hurting anyone.
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>>377371734
>For some people neither will do anything.

F
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>>377370767
Subs won't leave cause of a server switch. People stick to mmos because they get attached to their characters and times invested, a silly reason like ping won't do anything. Hell I bet the majority of the game doesn't even know the servers switched only internet autist who read every single detail.
>>377370875
So a large population chunk of the population should get up to 10x their ping just so a few can reduce theirs despite being in mostly low pop states?
Yeah fuck off
>>377371318
Not at all, he complains he gets lower dmg on bard and that class doesn't need ping at all. Ninja is almost all client side so ping doesn't affect it. They did that affect ninja facts complained about ping yet here we are, them still complain about ping after it literally isn't an issue anymore
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>>377369869
>Always think the servers being located in Montreal was fucking retarded
>Happy to hear they were moving so they could server everyone properly
>Instead they just move it to another extreme
>Califags act like Califags

Can't say I'm too surprised
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>>377371263
WTFast is literally the basic bitch tier vpn for people that buy le flame decal """""gaming"""" peripherals and shit like that. You can see it in the way they advertise themselves too.
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>>377371760
There is only 2 thread complaining about the change.
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>>377371816
ERP sounds like the ultimate sad/cringe phenomena to me, i want to stay away
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Post yfw the liveletter is a Stormblood Q&A but its just casuals asking pointless nothing questions.
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>>377370117
>WAAHHHHHHH WAHHHHHH I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR SHITTY PING GAME ANYWAYS ITS DEAD GAMEANYWYAS WAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>377371926

Are you implying it's not just the staff filtering out all of the interesting/important questions that don't actually have a good answer for?
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>>377371926
they already said it's 2 hours of job discussion and no q&a, retarded anime poster
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>>377371418

Okay and the fact is, east and west coasters have been used to their pings since the game launched

Changing it now is a big upheaval
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>>377371825
Yes exactly. I'm glad you agree. The servers should have been in central so the most players possible had the lowest ping possible.
>>377371897
Are we looking at the same forum? Is the topic creator's opinion the opinion of the entire thread?
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not to sound like a shill but mudfish really helped me. I can't double weave oGCDs without it. highly recommend people try it
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>>377371869
>califags are civilized and never complain about how shitty our pings were we just dealt with it
>server is moved
>eastapes start losing their shit "I"M GONNA QUIT HAHAHA YEAH DEAD GAME"
>Only then did califags speak up in laughter at how eastapes couldn't handle what they been dealing with
You really should look at the larger picture
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>>377371926

They've already said they aren't taking questions but will keep an eye on twitter to make clarifications if they are unclear.
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>>377371869
califags only acting like that because you threw a bitch-fit online
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>>377371926
It's just gonna be more questions about butt sliders isnt it

Balmung needs to get fucking nuked
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>>377372039
Califag turned WAfag here

This
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>>377372039
>>377372052
If the situation was the opposite the exact same thing would be happening. Everyone's a fucking moron.
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>>377372039
>califags are civilized
>never complain
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>>377371630
So is this thing meant only for fags across the state form the server? What's the farthest you have to be before you gain any benefit from VPN?
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>>377371923
There are two types of people who ERP anon.

>Lonely neckbeards who will pretend to be a qt girl in an attempt to desperately get some form of friendship. They use ERP to fill a void, and will get attached you in creepy ways.

>Those who just like writing and use ERP as a porn replacement.

90% of FFXIV are faggots pretending, but if you find a bunch of normies its great, you can be friends and write smut with each other.
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>North Carolina
>Not even a noticeable change in performance if any
I want the false flaggers to leave.
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>>377372039
They had 7 years to get used to it and most of them we not eve good anyway.
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>>377372170

>implying normal people write porn on a fucking anime game to one another
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>>377372141
Why is she always so smug?
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>>377372150
A VPN will solve bad ISP routing problems within the US, but it won't save you if you're too far away from the actual game servers like if you're a Yuropoor or South American.
>>
Anyone in Atlanta? How are pings around there?
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>>377372004
My bad, there's only one thread.
>New server location made unplayable for south american players

Created by SA players.

So, zero posts from NA players.

>Reporting Latency Related Issue (NA Data Center)

I've found 10 posts, since the change, from NA players complaining about the change.
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>>377372238
Normies by nerd culture standard, anon. The type who able to talk on voice chat and interact face to face.
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>>377370875
There's more to geographical location than where it is on the map. The Seattle & Canada hops suck shit for packet loss. There are a lot of potential paths to California running on good plant with minimal congestion.
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>mfw always played with like 140ms
>have been raiding with this latency since I joined in 2.1
>now it's 150-165

I was born in ping. I am immune to it.
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>>377371284
I'd be kinda sad if he wasn't. He's become a historical landmark at this point.
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>>377372137
>If the situation was the opposite
uh yeah it has been dumbass, since 2013 fucking moron. lol what an idiot.
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>>377372394

It's one thing to be used to shitty ping

But to enjoy a game for years and then have your latency more than triple completely ruins it in contrast. Sucked any desire I had to play
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>>377372332
I'm not going to link all the different threads about the move. I'm not sure if you literally can't see them or if you're just pretending.
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>>377371792
It effects our double weave but only going to notice on the opener and then fine.
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>>377371192
I don't know why they'd do two data centers if they're going to be in the same place
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This thing is adorable. Thanks PotD.
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>>377372394
most people don't notice lag if they started playing at 100+ ms, they get used to it. people that are bitching about it need to get gud at using the ability queue feature this game has instead of button mashing like a fucking donkey.
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>>377372394
EU on NA servers, with you there. Used to the delay on aoes. Its embarresing to watch people from NA get hit by shit while I'm avoiding it with lag.
>>
So how hard are they gonna drop the ball on class balance this time? I expect another round of WAR and AST buffs just because
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>can't talk about XIV on /vg/ because of ERPers
>can't talk about XIV on /v/ because of burgers
only live letter can save us now
>>
Real important question. The only type of people this change really effects are the dedciated raiders, how many of you are? Cause you make it seem like every single east coasters is in a dedicated static raid group doing your runs every week. So unless there is somehow a magical amount of raid groups in the east coast no one has heard of, you are again complaining about nothing just to complain cause you aren't getting your way.


>>377372227
>most of them were not even** (ftfy) good
>sitation : my ass
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>>377372519
It's ok, you can just copy the topic of those threads.

I'll wait.
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>>377372170
>Those who just like writing and use ERP as a porn replacement.

Yes i just enjoy fine visual details which is why i peep on women in the changing room and jerk it into their water bottles as a porn replacement


Lmfao get fucking real
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>>377372137
The server moved and people were going to bitch no matter what. Even if pings didn't change at all people would bitch about the move for petty reasons.
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>>377372457

Originally there were only japanese servers. The original server installation in canada gave everyone, including west coast players, a boon in connection

In contrast this move improved one side of the country while neutering the other and a few other countries as well

It's not even remotely the same situation
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>>377372625
What's a good non-shit server to escape to from the NA servers?
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>>377372625
>More or less than a month away from the expansion
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>>377372704
>he thinks the japanese servers were worse than the canadian ones
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAh


OH GOD
Thats good, you have anymore jokes?
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>>377372625
>/xivg/ can't be that bad
>mfw every other post is an avataring miqo'te fishing for attention
Honestly its just sad. I feel bad for them, how lonely must be to do something like that?
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>>377372625
DOn't get your hopes up. It's going to cause a huge uproar no matter what. If they don't talk abuot class changes people with super bitch. If they they peopel with super bitch about the skill prune or any changes.

You will NEVER be able to talk about XIV.
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>2.5s GCD
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>>377372757
NA servers are the best servers there are

Unless you're okay with non-english speakers who all speak different languages of course
>>
>west coast
>can't slidecast anymore
>constantly fuck up mounting because I move too early
the low ping is nice but fuck me if my ways to cheat the system screw me up royally now
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>>377372652
The Aftermath: EU player on NA server , what's your ping now?
Go Ping yourself
East Coasters being kicked from FC static groups and pugs for high ping.
New Datacenter: Sacramento, CA
[Data Center USA] Ping increased. Report your changes here.
Texas players, did the server move improve ping?
How much of a difference does it make?
Changes to FFXIV Net-code could make most Ping issues Irrelevant!
Dear Yoship and Team
NA players should boycott XIV until we get a centralized data center.
High ping kick
We need to come together
Make the US ping great again!!!!
Why the discussion of ping?
so yeah whole thing was pointless and we got triple ping 10/10 (100ms unplayable)

I'm not copying any more.
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>east coast
>better ping on eu than my own data center
I don't expect Yoshi to fix it, he will just tell us to get over it
Well fuck you, I will not
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>>377372569
jesus christ how horrifying
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>>377372889

genuine question

does having a 1 sec gcd make WoW's combat any more engaging than XIV's? Never played WoW, but videos don't paint a pretty picture
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>>377372889

haha well meme'd current and relatable
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>>377372668
>Yes i just enjoy fine visual details which is why i peep on women in the changing room and jerk it into their water bottles as a porn replacement
You sound like someone who started ERPing with someone thinking they were a qt girl and you were hoping to get your dick wet.

Lmao pathetic.
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Okay /v/ listen up, would you rather take a 50ms ping bump but inventory+armory chest is expanded by 100 slots. Or would you take the same ping you had from Montreal but Stormblood was delayed by 3 months while they find a new Datacenter location that's not in California because of arrangement issues with datacenter providers in other states
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>>377372930
>NA players should boycott XIV until we get a centralized data center.

yeah, they just moved, but they'll definitely change it again because a few dudes quit.

These dudes are delusional as hell
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>>377372704
it didn't "neuter" anything lmao, you're just pissed that you can't doublewave your shit ogcd and have to dodge AoE's a lot sooner. I'll bet you aren't even a raider, as to which none of this applies to you to begin with.

>It's not even remotely the same situation
High ping is high ping, nigger
get used to it or get out.
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>>377373104
He just wanted topic titles because he's blind. I just pasted everything on the first 2 pages related to the current issue. Those people are indeed delusional. SE made the move to this particular location because of business relations. The outcry would have to be enormous for them to even consider anything.
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>>377373164

I don't care about aoe's or DPS, but sincde the server move I get latency in inventory and gathering menus that make the whole a game feel like it's stuck in molasses

If this was just 'aoes are slightly harder to dodge' then I wouldn't give two shits
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>>377373049
Ive played both extensively, though i dropped WoW in pandaria

WoW's SIGNIFICANTLY worse skill bloat coupled with its shorter GCD made some classes an absolute clusterfuck to be honest
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>>377373164
>game objectively became less responsive to play for a ton of players
>"Lol you're just a baby stop complaining"
Crawl out of Yoshi Ps ass
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>upstate NY, very close to Canada
>ping improved

Who knew.
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>>377373242
yeah, sorry man, didn't mean to imply you were the one saying all that bull.

I'm in the midwest, so they could move the servers practically anywhere in the continental US, and I'd always be "pretty good" ping.

Honestly, though, unless it pushes you above 200, then you can probably play well at a high enough level. I know people freak out and call a class worthless because it deals 2% less dps than others, but this is getting nuts.
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>>377373049
WoW combat jsut has more to do and is more engaging overall. This could be due to the fact that one the GCD is far lwoer but it also helps that was is a far higher level cap and most classes have way more skills.

I play firemage in wow and BLM in this and firemage is far more entertaining. Same goes with paladin in ff14 vs warrior in wow.

More skills means more fun, but GCD helps
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>>377373074
Ive never ERP'd in my life and im never going to because it's fucken gay
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>>377373049
>WoW's combat any more engaging than XIV's?
Nope, WoW isn't even 123 combat at this point, it's 111
FF14 isn't anywhere close to being as complex as an action game but at least you have shit to up keep and pay attention to
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>>377372634
It affects everyone; the hardcores are just the only ones who are going to immediately notice exactly what it affects and to what degree. As you go down to more and more casual parts of the playerbase, people aren't really going to be able to put their finger on exactly what's wrong, but a lot of them will notice that the game just doesn't feel as nice to play as it used to. And yeah, it was bullshit that people on the west coast had to deal with a subpar game for four years too.

It was bullshit that the servers were in Montreal which is too far east and too far north, and it's bullshit that they're now in Sacramento which is too far west and probably a bit too far south. Centralized servers would have made for a good play experience for EVERYONE in NA, instead of arbitrarily shitting on one group and tickling the balls of another.

I'm more angry about what it did to EU players on NA servers. I really, really liked our static's Scandinavian DRK and he would have preferred to stick with our group, but the game is just no fun for him at a 200+ ping so he has to leave.
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fuck double weaving, can you triple weave? JP can do it.
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I only want the game to be enjoyable and smooth.
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>Mudfish Pay Per Traffic
How much will this actually cost me?
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>>377373046
who's this hunk and is he single
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>>377373391
LMAO
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>>377373374
I'm just annoyed at the whole thing because there was a best-case scenario and we didn't get it. Sub 200 ping can definitely still play, yes. I think when Yoshi stated that the game was "optimized" for 200ms he meant general play. In actuality it only really hurts the top% that want to go next level and are hindered by latency for precise inputs.
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>>377373515

>all the fucking euros have to go home now
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>>377372930
>>The Aftermath: EU player on NA server , what's your ping now?
> I'm in the UK.
Ops, Uk players complaining about ping in a NA server.
Spoilers, their ping is below 200.
>>Go Ping yourself
Only one post complaining.
>>East Coasters being kicked from FC static groups and pugs for high ping.

This is the most stupid thread by far, I don't remember one single west coast player being kicked because of their ping.

>>New Datacenter: Sacramento, CA
>738 pages
Not even going to bother with this one.

>Texas players, did the server move improve ping?
>How much of a difference does it make?
>Changes to FFXIV Net-code could make most Ping issues Irrelevant!
just people asking about the change.


>Dear Yoship and Team
>NA players should boycott XIV until we get a centralized data center.
>High ping kick
>We need to come together
>Make the US ping great again!!!!

Most of those players have 150 ping. Why the bitching?

>>377373539
Not much. Just make sure to never download any updates while running mudfish
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>>377373539
$5 for 40GB
FFXIV uses about 30mb a day if you leave it running all day as in 24 hours
do that math how long it will last you
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>>377373103
The 3 month delay, easily
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>>377372930
so a few people are spamming threads and acting like little bitches?

Same thing that happens every time there's a minor change to anything in game.
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>>377373103
Wait 3 months
>50ms ping bump
It was 120 bump for me.
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>>377373103
only grown men that need to have their slutgear always ready for erp want this shitty inventory expansion

if you unironically pick inventory over playability of the game, you are part of the problem
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>>377373515
Two things on the last note
If the servers were in central america he'd still probably have 200+ ping and be unplayable the difference between montreal and central america is huge
Two EU SHOULD PLAY ON FUCKING EU
You have literally 0 right to complain about ping if you aren't playing on the servers meant for you.
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>>377373537
>Call on meeeeeee
>Call on me
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>>377373528
You can't triple weave regardless of latency because the animation delay on skills tends to be about 600-700ms (your latency is basically added on top of that because SE is pretty dumb, which is why FFXIV is an MMO that punishes latency more harshly than most shooters).
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>>377373360
you were living in yoshi p's asshole for 4 years now. lol fucking fag
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>>377373882
You can triple weave some skills actually but you need LAN tier latency to pull that off.
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>>377373371
Have a good ISP and you don't have ping problems.
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>>377373660
>Not even going to bother with this one.
That one has the most heated discussion out of all of them. I don't know what you want.
>>377373731
He's the one that wanted threads related to people responding negatively to the change.
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>>377373103
I'd rather wait so the game isn't crippled forever due to 3 months.
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Yoshida and Hiromoot will fix all of this
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>>377373951
How? Abilities have an internal cooldown to prevent people from just macroing them and using them all at once.
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>>377374214
It's called using cheat engine
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Obviously 1.x was when the game was best. 2.x babies fuck off
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>>377374214
>itt people saying bullshit that isn't true
Are you surprised? If it was true he'd post proof but low and behold here we are.
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>>377373951
I guess that checks out, for classes that never get Attack Speed buffs and that minimize Skill Speed. At an average of 0.60 seconds per skill animation, you could triple weave with 100ms to spare, minus your latency and how far below 2.5s your SkS takes you. But yeah that's 33ms ping or below, so you'd pretty much need the server jammed up your ass to do it.
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>>377374274
2.0 baby here, what's this grass meme
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>>377374182
>Yoshida tells them to upgrade the servers
>trust his engineers
>think he's doing a good thing
I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.
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>>377374182
4chan hosted on ff14 servers confirmed
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why can't I have my minipet out in instaneces
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>>377374450
So people can't click on them
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>>377374450
Instance servers would overload
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>>377374330
I think it's because textures were so detailed in 1.0 to the point where they couldn't make zones anything but barren wastelands.
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>>377371897
Because everyone is banned from the OF.

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