I have just started this game and I've never played a Persona

>>377339723
>Should I be using a guide

This is the easiest fucking Persona game holy shit kill yourself

>>377339862
How are u anon? Everything ok?

>>377339862
I feel like you didn't read my post. I'm talking about the school stuff

You don't really need a guide, but I guess that depends on what you're hoping to accomplish on your first playthrough. Also, the game has some NG+ content, so you can't get "everything" on your first playthrough either way. Do what you want.

>>377340429
Do you know what a guide would allow me to do in one playthrough?

The first play through is best played blind. Use a guide on your NG+ play through.

it's no big deal if you don't do everything
i would recommend playing blind but if you want to look something up its not big deal
you really should play the way you want instead of what a guide says i think you'll get more out of it
also ng+ goes much faster because you retain a lot from ng

Playing a Persona game by guide your first time through will ruin the experience, bad time management be damned.

Stop being a fucking autist, managing social aspects is part of the game and a guide will ruin it for you. If you're really concerned just get the fortune teller to rank 7 and max out the maid for maximum efficiency. Don't go to mementos until you have at least 4 targets.

kill yourself

>>377339723
>Is this possible without a guide or would I definitely need one to do that?
Highly unlikely for a first timer. I'd recommend this guide if you don't want to play through it again: https://www.gamefaqs.com/ps4/835628-persona-5/faqs/74549

It's spoiler free and only tells you what to do in order to max confidants and social stats.

I'd recommend playing through blind though for a fuller experience. A second playthrough doesn't take long as you can fast forward through all the dialogue and you get to keep your persona so you can roll through palaces ez.

>>377339723
I got to the fifth dungeon and gave up on my playthrough because I realized that I didn't min max hard enough.

If you're like me and like to have the optimal playthrough, the best thing you can do is to try not worry about it too much and play with the online stuff off so you can't compare yourself to what other people did that day.

Just remember to take care of that plant you have in your room

>>377339862
I've played every single, I knew that holding Personas of confidents/S-links provided extra points, yet I didn't bother. Looking back, that would have been incredibly useful for saving time.

>>377342151

>saving time

Why not just enjoy the game in the amount of time it takes for you to do so? Why even play the game if you are actively looking to make the experience take less time?

>>377339723
just do what you want, i beat persona 3 with like half my social links unfinished and one of them reversed lol

all you need is trumpeter

>>377339723
Just do what you feel like

just b urself

There is only one thing you need to know and that's to rush fortune teller to lv7 as soon as you hear about her. Then abuse her luck and affinity readings for the rest of the game.

You can't miss it, she becomes available when Shinjuku opens to you.

>>377339723

>should i be using a guide

yeah just go ahead and ruin the game for yourself artificially by using an external resource to do everything in the most efficient an unfun way possible

may as well just watch a 100% silent lets play on youtube

>game holds your hand and explains basically every mechanic over hours of tutorial shit
>do i need a guide?

And people wonder why games are so shit

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>>377339723
dont go for worst girl

>>377342853
To be fair, the game does not tell you ahead of time that certain confidants are locked behind stat requirements.

>>377342957
>game doesn't explain one thing

Not everything needs to be explained. You don't need to know absolutely everything. Just play and experiment.

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OP here.
How long would you guys say a new game+ takes to complete? That'll probably be the deciding factor.

>>377342957

>durr why isnt every single thing spelled out for me ahead of time so i can negate any risk through preparation

You sound like a wet blanket.

>>377343241
I think it would give you a nice goal to work towards if you knew prior to.

>>377339723
You might as well just watch a let's play if you're going to use a guide.

>>377343243
as long as you want it

>>377339723
Just go in blind, guides are for pussies.

Learning how to do shit is literally half of the game.

>>377339723
Don't use a guide. Just bring a matching Persona when you spend time with a social link. Prioritize studying at the cafe on rainy days and going to the bathouse on monday/thursday nights. Max out the teacher's social link ASAP when it unlocks in late May. Don't focus on social stats unless you need them to unlock a social link, then spend as much time on them as possible until they're at the necessary level. Feed your plant as much as possible and buy juice at the shop in the underground walkway on sundays. That's all you really need to do.

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>>377343243
I'd say probably around 40 hours if you skip everything and breeze through the dungeons.

>>377343243
like going through base game and then ng+?

I'm reaching 200 hours and I'm 15 days away from the final dungeon, but I spent a day grinding because I autistically want every persona to unlock all their skills

I'm on my way to the final boss, but I don't want the game to end. What do I do?

So, I am in the casino and i've been wondering.
Does the max out all S-links trophy come from the items im supposed to get sometime or will I have to do them all in one playthrough?
If it's the latter I should probably be playing all video games and reading all the books.
Either way im doing ng+, this game is cash as fuck.

>>377344012
Has to be one playthrough, I'm maxed on everything except the two confidants that finish automatically, and I'm on NG+ so I have the items.

>>377343482
OP here, thanks that seems like a good idea.
Is there any deadlines aside from the palaces? I just really want to experience as much of the what the game has to offer as possible.

>>377344173
Trophies were a god damn mistake. Guess i'll spend the rest of ng playing vidya in my vidya and reading books.

>>377342236
Because you miss out on the experience if you don't max out social links that provide both gameplay incentives and lots of additional story, NG+ is incredibly boring to redo all that crap.

>>377339723
Don't get Instant kill ability, keep this in mind

>>377344317
>s there any deadlines aside from the palaces?
Deadlines are always made very clear in the game.

>>377344337
>Guess i'll spend the rest of ng playing vidya in my vidya and reading books
That's what I'm doing. I'm only "51%" competed through the game, even though I'm in the final dungeon. I had to hunt for every last trophy aside from the 150 treasures one and the ones for beating dungeons.

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>>377339723
Think of it like this.
Do you want to experience all the stories the game has to offer in one playthrough? Then use a guide, there's no way you are going to max out every confidant without one.

Do you not care about that? Then don't.

Do you plan on playing the game a second time anytime soon? Then don't.

Either or is fine.

>>377344831
>there's no way you are going to max out every confidant without one.
I maxed out every confidant besides Haru without a guide.

>>377339723
explore and adapt

thats the theme of every persona and you gonna be fine as long as you always trying new things and use those new mechanic to your advantage

its easy, i went in with no guide and the only one i didn't max was futaba and she was at rank 9

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Remember do NOT say the obviously stupid or mean thing when given dialogue options.

They do not give you much if any points and will make ranking up a harder job for you. The only time where you are allowed to say the mean stuff is Hanged man.

>>377339723
Social link and daily activity stuff is only in service of making the dungeon crawl easier, if you're not having trouble fighting then don't worry about it.

There's literally no penalty for changing difficulties on the fly either

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>>377345397
beep boop

>>377339723
There is no set time for when Confidants show up outside of a select few like Yoshida.

If I were you, just play though the game natually. Devote time to getting your Social Stats up and focus on the S-Links of your main party members. The only "vital" S-Links outside of your party members are probably Takemi; Kawakami and Hifumi.

Don't use a guide
If you miss any confidants just look them up on Youtube, there's nothing much to offer in a NG+ gameplay wise to make it worth it.

>>377345026
You just proved his point.

>>377346315
Well I also didn't remember to bring matching Personae for the first three months and didn't optimize my time spent in Mementos, and didn't clear the first three dungeons in a single day.

So nah, I didn't really prove his point.

>>377343243
I got to the 6th palace in 1 day in ng+ skipping all dialogue. Just goes to show that like 70% of this games length is fucking dialogue.

>>377344337
You can just save then play all video games/read all books for the trophy then reload.

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>>377345397
>>377345536
This is legit the dumbest fucking thing in P3-5.
Why bother putting all these unique and interesting dialogue options when you're just gonna be punished for them? Rank up should just be dependent on if you have the arcana not instead of this no fun allowed guessing game.

>>377346956
>Why bother putting all these unique and interesting dialogue options when you're just gonna be punished for them?
NG+

>>377346458
His point was that as a first time persona player OP probably won't max all confidants on his first playthrough, he didn't say it's impossible to do.

>>377342236
Are you retarded? Saving time is not rushing the game. You're wanting to complete as much as you can within the time the game gives you because it's difficult to finish everything in a single playthrough.

>>377339723
if you dont want to do NG+ than just use a guide

I've never played a Persona or SMT game before, is P5 a good starting point? I know nothing at all about the series.

>>377347887
Persona 5 is SMT-lite so it's a good starting point.

It is the best Persona game though, so it might make it hard to go back to P4 or P3, since the former is shit and the latter starts out really slow.

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>>377347887
yes

>>377348037
Except it isn't the best Persona game at all. The dungeons are trash with n64-era "themes" and the writing is awful

>>377348221
>The dungeons are trash
They're not great, but they're better than the garbage from P3 and 4.
>and the writing is awful
Par for the course for post-2 Persona games.

>>377347887
Persona and SMT are really not that much alike. Persona 4 Golden or 5 would be the best starting point into the Persona series On the other hand, Persona 1, 2, and 3 might be tough to play because the game play isn't as refined. Nocturne seems to be everyone's recommendation when getting into SMT.

>>377340398
Do a chill playthrough, minmaxing is for ng+.

>>377348345
Persona 5 is basically SMT lite since they brought negotiation back again.

Persona 4G is a pretty bad starting point, since P4 is bad.

>>377348303
nah I'd rather play through random floor designs than have to run back and forth doing the rudimentary "puzzles" in p5.

>>377348449
P4 is good, turbonig.

>>377348518
Yes, I too would rather have empty hallways than real dungeons. Persona 4's straight line with one corridor offshoot design is truly the pinnacle of SMT dungeon design.
>>377348574
I guess it's not bad per se, but it's one of the worst SMT games.

>>377348674
>one of the worst SMT games.
>SMT has had some of the worst games i have ever played

ok

Just go with the flow. Playing a Persona game or hell any SMT game and min-maxing for the first time through it sucks literally all the fun out.

>>377348518
You are just completely fucking wrong.

Doing the Palaces in P5 ranged from being fun as fuck to slightly annoying.

Compare that to having to grind Mementos which is the same as P4s random corridor generator was never anything more that irritaing as fuck.

>>377348825
What do you mean? I never said that, I just said P4 is near the bottom of SMT.

I would only recommend a guide for social stats as some of them will completely jew you over if you dont know better
Such as Sojiro
>Rank 3 to 4 requires the player make multiple cups of coffee
>Rank 4+ can only be achieved after certain story point on like August
>Have to make multiple plates of curry to upgrade the rank more later on

>>377348972
>Doing the Palaces in P5 ranged from being fun as fuck to slightly annoying.
what the fuck are you talking about. they were boring and too long for there own good,
especially the later ones
>>377349019
sorry. i miss understood

>>377349361
Yes, they weren't perfect, but they blow P4 and P3 dungeons out of the water a thousand times over. The only bad dungeon was Mementos which surprise, is the same shit that P3/4 had.

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>>377349496
>bad dungeon was Mementos
>bank and space station.

>>377349361
Sure, some were a bit long but to say that they are somehow worse to "Random Corridor Generation" is just plain wrong and stupid as fuck.

>>377349664
Still better than Mementos.

>>377339723
Just do yourself a favor and blind run the first playthrough. NG+ lets you do all the efficiency and bonus shit a -lot- faster.

>>377349664
Yeah, those were pretty bad compared to the castle, casino, and ship, but damn they were a thousand times better than straight corridor with a few offshoots on floor 38523748573845728728357238457823 of Tartarus or straight corridor with one offshoot of P4.

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>>377349361
>too long
>Personababbies

>>377349714
i just think people give the dungeons or palaces a bit too much praise for what we got.

>>377349929
>wants to play jrpg light
>kek fucking babbies

>>377347887
P5 and SMT4 are readily available currently and both a good introduction to the series/spinoffs.

>>377349929
Yes, we know actual SMT dungeons are a lot more hard to complete.

>>377350007
Again, they range from great to bad.

Better than P3 or P4s dungeons which were constantly bad.

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>>377339723
Do your best to level up your social stats to max.
Focus Fortune, Temperance, Sun, and Moon, as well as your teammates.

>>377350296
but they were short. at least for me.

i play through them in one go

>>377350414
And you could do most of the P5 ones in one go as well.

I think the only P5 Palace that cuts you off half way is Madarame's and thats forgivable since the Museum was one of the better ones.

>>377350675
>that SP massacre in space station

thats one that i can remember being a bitch

>>377350675
Madarame Security System
Niijima Court room
think that's about it for mandatory breaks

Goro kills sae

>>377351192
There's always one.

Here's hoping for a P5AU

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>>377351192
>Goro "kills" sae

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>>377350960
>Okumura boss
>Kill these robots over and over again for 10 minutes
Worst dungeon in the entire game

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>>377351523
>Worst dungeon in the entire game
with the worst girl to boot

>>377351607
Best girl, Worst party dub. At least it's not Shinya.

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>>377351735
>Best girl,
>>377351426
really.

>>377351192
Don't forget to mention that he did it in a desperate attempt to save joker, but gets dumped by the group yet still saves them in shidos palace, truly a hero they did not deserve but need.

>>377351735
>using the dub

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>>377351983
just gonna post this

>>377351426
>the P5 cast will be stuck with their initial personas
I'd be more angry about this if most of the upgrades weren't shit

>>377352192
In another life

>>377352391
Well what would we be missing out on? Susanoo and Mercurius? the rest of them are pass except the MC's which would probably show up in an OHKO or something anyway

>>377351426
I'm excited. I'll forever be annoyed p4 group doesn't get their ultimate personas. I'd complain about the p5 ones too, but the ultimates sadly aren't all that great, minus mc's who'll probably show up.

>>377352675
Johanna having transformer attacks would be amazing

>>377351523
The boss was lame sure but I don't really see any problems with the rest of the dungeon. I thought it was pretty enjoyable and the puzzles weren't really that bad.
Mementos depths is the worst in my opinion but even that didn't really get on my nerves too badly

>>377352765
That's something they -might- do but I doubt it'll be consistently used as Anat if that

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>>377351426
no. JUST no

>>377339723
Don't use a daily guide, decide shit for yourself.

On my first semi-blind playthrough I managed to social link all but ONE person. Pro-tip, always social link people. Social links > Stat grind. Although I would say to get fortune and temperance max'd ASAP in order to get super value. One of my friends was SO terrible at time management that he only managed to max out makoto somehow.

If you need guts, do the nighttime burger challenge.
Dvd's are a good source of stats.
Video games suck.
Fishing is a waste.
Batting is a waste.
Knowledge is only useful for makoto and hifumi, so if you don't want them I would not prioritize knowledge until you get to them.

>>377352984
>Play P4G
>This character got made out of nowhere just to give P4 an Aegis
Why not just fucking replace Marie with her

>>377352391
>>377352708

>They include Pancakes but don't use his ultimate
Fuck

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>>377353160
i like marie

>>377353160
You see, P5 will never have this problem. Why? It already has Makoto for the emotionally troubled robot role.

>>377353208
They'd be more likely to use his than anyone else's, all things considered

>>377352984
Yes, just yes. Theres no good fightan out right now and GG is too fucking obtuse. Give me a fun fighting game that doesn't fellate the tourney crowd.

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>>377353296
Fuck you

>>377353284
Get out of here Poochie

>>377347887
If you do plan on playing the serious I would start at 3>4>5. If you play 5 then go back to 3 most people get turned off because of the clunkier gameplay mechanics.

>>377353284
Same
She's pretty hot, and outside of her poetry shit and I'msayingabunchofwordsreallyfast I don't think she's that bad. Fuck Atlus for pushing her so hard though

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>>377353284

>>377353387
Beep boop