It's time to discuss the best RPG ever made.

It would be, if it didn't use that idiotic faux RtwP combat.

>no controller support
Devs can fuck right off

Sure, lets

My favorite boss is probably Ornstein and Smough

>>377298826
>Souls games
>RPGs

Lmao.

Just finished it last week, very great game, but the last two bosses kinda ruined the ending. All the rat race, meh.

The combat/alchemy and the whole interface needed a lot of time to get used to, but I ended up liking it a lot.

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At last.
Which camp did you guys go with?

>>377298906
>the witcher
>role-playing

HAHAHAHAHAH

>>377298918
And having just started the second game the interface is actually a lot worse, fucking consoles.

>>377298076
That's not true and you know it. Combat is abyssmal and visuals have aged like milk.

>>377298076
We already have one New Vegas thread. Polite sage.

>>377299092
>fallout 3.5
>anything other than more fallout 3

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>>377298918
Last two bosses were fucken mad mate.

I really liked TW1 story wise.

>>377299309
As you say, Todd.

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>>377298918
>>377298978
Yeah 1's interface is "intimidating" at first but after a while it starts to make sense and is very comfortable to use. 2's interface is just abysmal, 3's is a little bit better but still not nearly as functional as 1's.

>>377298984
>Combat is abysmal
It's not that bad.

>Visuals have aged like milk.
On a technical level? Sure. But they have that charm which makes graphics timeless.

>>377299381
Yeah I just hated the whole chasing and them just teleporting away and spawning adds. If they can teleport so well why didn't they teleport away when I was about to kill them? But I really liked how it tied in the story with Alvin

>>377299438
>Sure. But they have that charm which makes graphics timeless.
As someone who thinks TW3 is the greatest game ever made, I actually agree. TW1's graphics still make me feel good. I know that its only nostalgia, but I dont care. I like going back now and then.

>>377299383
You can be dismissive all you want but qualitatively and quantitatively there are very few difference between 3 and NV.

>>377298925
New camp, obviously.
Anything else is retarded.

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>>377298984
Having just recently finished the game I think it still looks great and the combat works really well after getting used to it

>>377298925
Is that the N64 version?

You can call any game an RPG.
Shit needs a new name or at least sub genres that people actually use.

Shooting enemies after downing them in CoD campaigns to confirm that they're dead is role playing.

>>377299651
the switch version

YOUR
ASS
PUTS
OTHERS
TO
SHAME

Batman combat + dialogue options is not an RPG

Even Skyrim is more of an RPG than Witcher

>>377299438
>>377299514
the part in that area near the lake is one of the comfiest experiences I had in gaming

>>377299551
>qualitatively
a matter of opinion so Iwon't argue if you prefer FO3 writing/items/quest structure, you're entitled to that opinion
>quantitatively
except for all the completely new world/setting/NPCs/settlements/quests/items/RPG elements like perks, stat effects on gameplay, traits, skill checks

the engine is the same tho and we all know engine/graphics is all that matters in an RPG

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>>377298925
Maybe in the top 10 but it's not the best.

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>>377298935
>gothic
>role-playing

HAHAHAHAHAH

>dark souls
>role-playing

HAHAHAHAHAH

>final fantasy
>role-playing

HAHAHAHAHAH

>persona
>role-playing

HAHAHAHAHAH

>chrono trigger
>role-playing

HAHAHAHAHAH

>not based on pen & paper
>role-playing

HAHAHAHAHAH

>>377298925
old camp every time, look at those fucking armors mang

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Shame there wasn't more of it

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>>377298076
>that one moment that elevated TW1's greatness to a whole new level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Xh_oeQ2-E

>>377300058
I never understood this scene.

>>377298757
>the only witcher made exlusively by slavs for only slavs
>controller

>>377298925
>new camp
>mercenaries

If you picked anything else in both games, no matter how many reruns you did, you are a shit and dishonest man.

>>377298925
old camp fagg here

>>377299481
>>377299481
oh yeah the cat and mouse plot thing gets a bit frustrating. They do it in all 3.

I honestly believed that alvin was just some cunt kid at the time, the game got me good.

ur mum _____ _____ _____

>>377298076
I found TW1 so awful I never bothered with the rest of the series.
That swamp and the stone hunting quest related to it were the only fun part in the entire game and surprise, surprise, everyone seems to hate it.

>>377300097
"..the few villagers come to watch the mirage of the underwater city, seen above the lake's surface thanks to the unusually clear waters, the light of the moon and a little optical magic."

>>377300536
You found the game awful but you played it through to the end anyway?

i abandoned this game at the investigation in chapter 2

no matter what i did i couldnt get the cemetery pass or prove Thaler innocent

>>377300654
you cannot finish something in your life right ? not even a videogame

TW3>TW2>TW1

If you don't agree you are either a nostalgic faggot that has forgotton how those, and yes TW2 was awesome with it's branching paths, games actually play or your pain tolerance is so high that your opinion is invalid.

>>377300654
No; I never finished it. I dropped it when your main quest involves helping with the preparations for a wedding and I was forced to walk through a boring meadow.
I'm talking about the quest where you have to find a bunch of stones to activate a series of portals or something. I remember finding a cabin in the middle of the swamp and discovering the owner was a cannibal.

>>377300824
Well that list is obviously true. But they're all amazing games. In fact, I liked them all so much I dont mind someone preferring one above the other.

>not just playing oblivion again

>>377300824

>t. underage

>>377300697
you could prove thaler innocent by accepting to go to Shani's party and once the party is over she'll tell you something about him that'll prove that he's not with Salamandra
But it's not like it really matters anyway cause you can prove that Azar disguised as Raymond by doing the autopsy at the hospital and then all the suspet will be proven innocent

>>377300948
>you can prove that Azar disguised as Raymond by doing the autopsy at the hospital

do i need to read any books for this?

>>377300824
TW3 > TW1 > TW2

>>377298076
>tfw i sided with Yaevinn to use the Squirrels as cannon fodders againsts the Salamandras

>>377300906
Oblivion is god awful, it has no redeeming qualities other than muh comfy. I'll never understand how it gets praised in here of all places.

>>377300767
Games are meant for entertainment, why would you put yourself through a game that you do not enjoy just for the sake of completing it? And he didn't complete it anyway so.

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>time travel plot

I actually really like the combat, and wish more games did something similar. I really like the idea if stance based combat, and the only game to really try to do it after the first witcher is nioh, which I can't play due to being a pcfag.
My dream combat system would be directional stance based combat (think for honor or chivalry meets witcher 1)

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>>377301061
I like you

>>377298757
fuck you

The Witcher 2 practically had no KB+M support

>>377301173
Same here. 1's combat is miles better than the awful clunky roll fest that is Witcher 2.

>>377301131
nostalgia, I played all TES games, besides arena, when they were released and there is nothing good about Oblivion besides maybe the remnants of freedom it had and an amazing expansion.

I can understand Daggerfall or Morrowind making Skyrim look like shit to some people but Oblivion is just the worst and you know it was someones first massive immersive open world rpg if they gush over it.

>>377298076
wtf
This game looks just like Gothic 2.

What happened to Geralt's face throughout the games? In witcher 1 he was pale and kinda ugly, since canonicaly witchers are pale mutants. But by witcher 3 he turned into a total fuckboy face.

>>377301482
It just has too many bizarre design choices. Like the entirety of the combat/XP/level scaling system, the fact that you can instantly fast travel to all of the cities as soon as you get out of the sewer AND making the start point right next to the biggest city of the game is absurd in my opinion. I can't be bothered to list all the flaws because there's no point in doing so but those were my biggest gripes when I first played oblivion.

>>377301173
i can't really say i liked the combat but i got used to it, W2 being more action oriented was a legit improvement but the roly poly hell made me cringe a bit.
W3 i just can't get into it, the combat just feels more clunky and unresponsive that the previous ones

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>>377298076
Post your favorite track from the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZyNoHwC1k

>>377301743
>you can instantly fast travel to all of the cities
Non-diegetic fast travel is by far my most hated of the streamlining memes. What was wrong with Striders and Boats in Morrowind?

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Prior to TW3 coming out, TW2 was just starting to come into its own with people starting to recognize how good it was.

But after TW3 came out the title was dragged through the mud yet again by new players trying it out for the first time. The general consensus here nowadays is that it's terrible, which couldn't be more wrong.

I used to think TW1 was much better than TW2, but after repeated playthroughs of both games it's apparent that TW2 is the winner. Certain things were done more poorly, namely the UI, needing to meditate to drink/craft potions (and not being able to meditate in combat), not being telegraphed the nature of the enemy you were about to face before fighting it, the medallion cooldown period as opposed to TW1's just holding alt to highlight all interactables, etc. Some things were done differently but just as good in my opinion, like how the atmospheres and premises were completely different. TW1 was a game where you were just being a Witcher, doing conventional Witcher work, free to roam the city quarters to your hearts content, and experience both city and country life in the same general area. TW2 is a much more focused/charged experience where you move from one setpiece to another in a much less relaxed fashion, with a politically driven plot and only brief moments of respite.

Looking back now, TW2 was the better and more memorable game. Flotsam had so much atmosphere and goings on. The docks where the shipments came in, the main square (where if you quell Iorveth's rebellion actually turns into a nice celebration area), the inn (that has more character than the inns in TW3 imo), that dwarven bookseller that sells actually useful books, the barbicans that guard the entrances to the forest with actual guards stationed there, the underground fighting ring in Loredo's estate, the haunted hospital/asylum in the forest, etc. The sense of danger lurking outside the town walls accentuated the town's charms. Vergen was great too.

>>377301921
I don't know, it's a lost game design for some reason. Hell Skyrim has carts for traveling to cities by default but I guess that wasn't enough. Even making the fast travel teleport like a skill or spell would have been better and made more sense, like the more you improve the teleport skill the further and more often you could teleport. I don't know.

mirrowang

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>>377301895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKv0rtgI7mw

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>>377301741
I guess they thought nobody wants to play as an ugly dude. Witcher 2 had a good balance in my opinion.

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>>377301927
Even Henselt's camp which I hated at first, becomes very charming once you figure out the lay of the land and get to fully experience it from both branches of the game (Roche and Iorveth's).

And the twisting ravines outside Vergen are great too. Loc Muinne is by far the worst setting in the game, even worse if you didn't side with Roche, but everything until then is pure gold. The game gets much more palatable if you treat it like a road trip (boat trip), since you're essentially just traveling down the same river throughout the whole game.

One other issue that TW2 has that neither TW1 or TW3 has, is the ability to play in ultrawide resolution, probably due to some console limitation. That is my only real criticism in retrospect because things like the potion/meditation cease to be issues once you know the game.

>>377300864
Retard
>>377299438
Looks nice, too bad game is shit

>>377301895
Such a shame that you couldn't do fishing at the dike.

>>377298076
i unironically agree with this

but with the combat re-balance mod, because otherwise the game is too easy

>>377302342
Having just started the second game after playing the first he looks so weird to me like a mutated angry vin diesel

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>have played vtmb over a dozen times already
>wait 1-2 years, play it again
>and a second time right after that because it's so good
best game. best soundtrack.

>>377298076
Imagine being such a contrarian that you think this lite-rpg with a bad plot and combat is the best RPG ever made

>>377300824
>TW2
>Branching paths

It had literally two paths. Not even worth a replay.

W1>W2>W3
This is the only correct view, they're all great, but I think 1 is has the most consistently good story, where as I think W3 is just completely uninteresting both from the finding Ciri, and the Wild Hunt.
The actual questlines the Velen and Hearts of Stone are excellent, but these large gaps of the main story where you're just on this boring fetch quest to find Ciri is just terrible. Also the fact that you can't turn the sorcerers to Radvoid is just such a wasted opportunity.

W2 is good overall and the only reason it's so low isn't story wise but because I had technical problems, like in act 3 I had some sort of save bloat where it just took minutes to load, and having jumping and interacting being limited to outside of combat meant you got stuck in it occasionally. And act 3 in general is just nowhere near as interesting.

>>377302204
It was cool as hell teleporting home after an adventure, sorting out what to keep and what to sell, then teleporting to the nearest tribunal or imperial cult temple and catching a strider or boat to whatever market you wished. Or just fortifying speed, acrobatics, or levitation into the hundred and thousands and walking or jumping wherever you wanted to be. I guess they though Oblivion was just too big to make it work.

>>377302603
How is it contrarian? I see most people praising Witcher games, and the company that produced it. I don't like the games either but a lot of people do.

>>377298076
Fuck I wish they remade it with the Witcher 3 engine.

>>377302726
The two paths are insanely different experiences though. And you get information revealed to you that the other side doesn't get.

TW2 is one of the few games that I recommend playing at least three times. It's difficult to digest otherwise.

>>377299745
...Distant and cold, weak witcher

>>377302586
Just wait till 3 when Geralt suddenly is not only the wisest, coolest and toughest of all dudes but also the most handsome, seriously, especially since everybody else either looks like an ugly potato or a rotten turnip, something I don't remember being the case in 2 all the time.

>>377302790
TW3 is only the worst if you're only counting the base game imo. HoS and B&W completely redeemed it.

>>377302861
Two is enough, maybe make a save before running after Triss or saving Philippa.

>>377302803
The first one is not regarded very well by most people. Also, a lot of the time people who praise the first one shit on the other two. Makes them feel special to hate on the popular ones and love the unpopular one.

By the way, I don't hate W1. It took me three tries, but I beat it on the hardest difficulty. I pretty much played it for the atmosphere.

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>>377298076
>not aaa.jpg
IMPOSTOR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>377298935
>playing as Geralt is not a role
why soulfags are so retarded

>>377303219
so every game where you play as a certain character is a RPG?

>>377303275
Geralt is not a regular character

>>377303348
explain.

>>377302342
neet to chad

>>377298925
Weed camp

>>377301895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIuh8F_RROg

>>377303275
You can influence the whole flow and outcome of these games by making choices for Geralt, something alot of, "true" rpg don't even do.

But as somebody who even sees his own creations as distinct characters I might be the wrong one to make points about roleplaying.

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>>377298076
we talking about best girl here?

>>377301895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fIPBs5PAy4

>>377303110
Everything plot, character, lore or geography related completely flew over my head in my first playthrough so it almost didn't count.

I replayed Roche path on my third playthrough and was surprised at how much of the nuances I missed the first time around.

Also isn't the obvious choice for that part just saving Philippa since it leads to being able to free Saskia from Philippa's thrall and Triss gets rescued by Letho anyways? And since the pogrom for witches and dissolution of the conclave/council in the north happens anyway in TW3's canon.

>>377300097
It's a Lovecraft reference kind of. There used to be a whole city of fish-people on the lake a long long time ago and this is a mirage of it.
>>377300864
The thing about W1 combat is, it obviously wasn't good, but it didn't make the game worse for me. It just wasn't its strong part, but fighting
wasn't really unpleasurable to go through or something, just not very satisfying either. I don't get people who think the game was "ruined" by the combat system, it just made what could have been a 9/10 game an 8/10.

>>377303197
Explain.

>>377303613
>best girl
>not the dryad

Ba ba ba!

>>377302603
I don't think the plot was bad, it was maybe told poorly at times but overall it was decent enough. However TW1 has that certain feel and charm that no other game has replicated for me, I can't quite put my finger on what does it but it gives me an incredible sense of coziness.

>combat
Combat is never good in RPGs so not really that big of a deal.

>>377303219
you got it the other way around, youre not playing someone else for it to be an RPG, you need to be able to conduct as you, or many different mindsets would do for it to be role play.

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>>377304031
>not the lady

>>377304096
>enhanced edition sped up his speech
in the original this guy took 10 minutes to go through his dialogue

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Post actual great RPGs so that OP knows better for next time

>>377304223
>says me
yeah ok

>>377304926
Origins is trash and you know it.

>>377300864
fuck off bitch, combat was so fucking bad that i gave up after 10min but i guess you love to being raped just by looking at that pic

>>377304926
I can't tell you how many times I've tried to finish this game. It's such a fucking grind with the fade, the deep roads, etc

>>377300997
i don't remember but only thing you have to make sure is to stay neautral during the autopsy without choosing a path that might lead to either Kalkstein or Ramsmeat

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>>377299602
>>377300048
>>377300253
>>377300269
>not picking the ayy lmao camp
If you want to play the game in easy mode, I guess I can't stop you

>>377305170
Fade is objectively great. Use the forms they make it fun as shit.

Deep roads is trash there's no saving it. Best thing to do it to break up Orzammar and the Deep Roads with another big quest.

As far as etc goes I guess I could give you a few Origins, Ostagar/The Wilds, Lothering, Redcliffe, Denerim, Brecilian Woods, The Temple of Sacred Ashes, The Mage Tower, The Companion Quests, the secret boss fights, Soldiers Peak, Return to Ostagar, Battle for Denerim, Awakening, and Lelianas Song that are all exceptional. A lot of the side quests are very fun too.

>>377305142
See above, not to mention as far as choices and personalized interactions go the game is pretty top tier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlWaTu5eIsU&t=5s (Skip past Shale and the dog after you've watched one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx12hoRmfQY&t=5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCb-B3NBkV0&t=50s
The Warden can pick 2 companions to come and rescue them from Fort Drakon keep. Every fucking combination works and roughly all of them have totally unique dialogue (Minus delivery the Dog and Shale which are roughly the same.) There are multiple plans to get into the fort (Deliveries, Circus, Chantry) and even if two different combos use the same plan (Sten and Oghren, Zevran and Oghren doing the circus, Wynne and Morrigan or Wynne and Leliana pretending to be the chantry) there lines will be completely different from one another. You also have multiple voiced dialogue choices and some blow your cover and others get you in.
This is on top of the Wardens option to break out themselves either by force or by seducing the guard (You just need higher persuasion if you're male).
You get 0-3 minutes of this dialogue per playthrough and there's about 40 minutes of it.
This is just one quest, the amount of small choices you probably didn't even notice like owning the Redcliffe bar, porking the elven lovers, killing connors demon is has a fucking massive amount of choices to rival Fort Drakon.

>>377306093
>As far as etc goes I guess I could give you a few Origins,
As far as etc goes I guess I could give you a few Origins, and the mage tower if especially if that was your Origin.*

>>377304926
Origins is the only game I unironically stopped playing after 30minutes.
And I managed to stomach the Gothic series, so that should tell you something.

>>377306174
That you have poor tastes in how to spend your time?

>>377299309
You realise Bethesda have been using what is essentially the same engine for over a decade?
The only difference between the Skyrim/Fallout 4 and Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine is a volumetric lighting, pbr and some AI tweaks.

>>377298076
The witcher was so shit before they "enhanced" it. I haven't played the enhanced version, or any witcher game since I played the hunk of shit that was witcher one.

>>377306223
I'm fine thank you. Its just video games.

>>377306093
Most of the companion cast is also fucking fantastic, well written except for Secret Companion (Never really expands on what you already saw in the game) and Oghren (Dude ALE lmao) until he gets good in awakening, good companion quests, fun to have in the party for combat and also they all chime in on quest conversations or have the ability to contribute enough that you don't forget they are there, you can betray them and they can betray you during the story, you actually have to have them in your party and get to know them to find out more about them (Hence why every other /v/irgin says the cast is poorly written except for the 3 characters they had in their party).

Combat is also fun. Real time with pause (Despite its issues) felt a lot better than dragging turn based combat in my opinion (Dragon Age's larger fights would have grinded to a halt and stopped being fun with turn based combat) and all of the classes had fun abilities. Spell combinations were a lot of fun. The mage and rogue talent trees are sublime.

Something else I rarely see mentioned is that most of the games assets are actually made to look really nice from the top down Baldurs Gate style angle. So the game isn't quite as ugly as most people meme.

>>377298076
Skyrim?

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>>377301895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHVPG3jxlKg

>>377306093
Origins just lacks any charm. It just feels so... soulless.

>>377308203
This isn't true at all though. The game is filled with funny and memorable interactions all over the map

>>377298076
that's not Skyrim.

(it really is Skyrim tho)

>>377308343
I know this is not the case, but that sentence reads like straight out of an advertisement.

>>377304926
I take NWN 2 over this any day of the week.

>>377302314
>>377308007
My men, this track must be the comfiest thing in existence.

>>377308683
Sorry I got preoccupied so making a real arguments not possible right now

>>377304012
>>377303197
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/%20aaa.jpg/

>>377301652
what? gothic 2 looks terrible in comparison

>>377309594
kek

>>377309594
So this... is the power of autism... damn...

>>377303219
geralt is literally the most perfect character for an RPG that he kind of sucks out the fun

> perfect tracker, allows for batman vision
> combat expert, making fighting a meme
> daddy, gives him a quest and a reason to get pissy with everyone
> mutated, so he can be strong, smart, and makes it appropriate to want to fuck everyone, and not some high schooler's fantasy

W I N D S H O W L I N G

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>this whole area
>this boss
>this cinematic
>dat sword
aerondight will never not be weaponfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML_SVj9atQw

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>>377309850
>>377309860
He is always there. You can think "he finally stopped posting!" But this autist is always there
shitposting train train has no brakes

>>377310284
Pure vidya kino.

>>377298076
Thats not horizon.

>>377307267
>>377308562
kys

>>377300864
w-what the fuck

>>377298076
Do you think The Witcher 1 will go on sale this summer? I want to play 1 and 2, at least before 3

>>377298076
I actually just beat this last night!

The game's far from perfect... even far from polished. There's a lot of good ideas in there, but ultimately it's a mess. The pacing is abysmal. I almost gave up during the slog of chapter 3.

Ultimately, I'm glad I stuck with it because the ending was neat and I'm excited about going into Witcher 2 knowing the lore, but I don't think I'll ever replay the first one.

Superbunnyhop's review of it is pretty accurate.

>>377314820
If you weren´t a Steam retarded amerifat sheep you would have known that it´s literally free on gog.

>>377302591
I see this game posted so much I almost feel like it's a meme. Sell me on it, anon. Why do people love it so?

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>>377298984
>aged

>>377298283
wut, people actually played witcher like baldur's gate or something?

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Role playing games are only true role playing games when I can make the character look exactly like me so I can play myself

>>377315372
Really? It can't just be free for the taking, there's got to be something you have to do