Kuckaiden: Tales of a punished modder Pt 4

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who the fuck actually plays taro games
just watch the cutscenes or check the wiki

What is the mod even do anyway

>weebs are pathetic
More news at 8!

>>377282853
But Automata actually has good gameplay

>>377283098
lol

>>377283098
(you)

>>377282946
i think it fixes bugs in the game and makes it run better.

>>377282703
So in the end all he did was get himself banned from Steam for a while and pirates got the ultimate Near-a-tomato experience for free?

Also what's this about FBI paying him a visit?

>>377283098
>b-b-but muh combo videos!!!!!!

>>377282946
Makes the game run at the resolution you choose (otherwise it runs at below 1080p even when you select 4K) and it gives you a good performance boost

>>377283098
>>377283313
>>377283226
>>377283225
literally all me

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>>377283253
Pretty much. Also look at that archive link, he's literally a Denuvo shill.

>>377283374
>2 of them were posted in the same second
yeah sure :)

>>377283336
Do I need to do anything else or do I just install it and that's it?

Why don't you just report kalcuck to the FBI and be done with it, i guarantee you he has a good behaviour bond and has broken it.

That's what happen if you're being a huge moralfag and consider yourself a superhero while in the reality it only makes you look like a jackass

>>377283456
Use the one linked in OP because Kalaiden's official releases are malware

And yeah it just werks

>>377283401
Your pic related is my absolute favorite part of the whole Kaldaien debacle, how he actually admitted on the Steam Forums that he never pirates games because he was visited by the FBI years ago. He didn't admit that he downloaded kiddy porn, but that's the most likely scenario for getting an FBI visit.

>be Kaldaien
>get busted for CP
>can't pirate games anymore, so he begins blindly supporting Denuvo
>creates a simple mod for a game he likes, but decides to be petty and include anti-piracy measures
>also includes people's Steam IDs he dislikes
>gets banned on the Steam forums for calling pirates "morons"
>gets banned on Github for harassing users
>get banned from real life for being a sex offender
>can't get a job, can't mod games, can't pirate games, Kaldaien is left with nothing
>Square Enix doesn't even bother thanking him, they just pinned his thread that he's locked out of permanently

Why are pirates such fags.

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I'm gonna look him up on the sex offender registry. He uses his name everywhere.

>>377283226
>>377283225
>>377283313
>trying to bash a game till your butthole gap is all loss

You don't need a fucking general for this bullshit, fuck off.

Dude, who cares? Stop trying to start a battle that doesnt exist.

>>377284181
Thanks I just got a raise

>>377282703
Sounds like the person in question is indeed a cunt but I do feel him.

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>>377284185
>>377284143
>not shitting on LITERAL denuvo shills
Get out of my Mongolian cave drawing convention /v/edditors

>>377282703
>notorious for allowing anything and everything on their platform
I don't care about your video game drama but this right here is not a bad thing.

>>377282853
who the fuck actually does anything anyway just attach a feeding tube and fall into a coma or jump off a bridge

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>>377284439
>allowing modders to distribute malware on your platform after being banned for distributing malware on another is a good thing

MUH FREE SPEECH

>>377284637
>installing malware

>blocks pirates
that's retarded, but at least he isn-
>also blocks people that disagree with him
okay fuck it. hope the queer gets inoperable lung cancer

Is everyone already forgetting that his mods deletes files without your permission and without warning?

It's literally malware.

>>377285013
but
>it's his mod his right

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>being this mad over a mod
You gonna make this thread everyday sonny?

>>377283709
> but that's the most likely scenario for getting an FBI visit.

Why don't they and the police are about piracy? Don't they points for than?

>>377284637
>>377285013
what It'a a malware? I have far..

CITATION

>>377285424
it goes through your files and deletes all games with the cpy crack. Nier doesn't even have a cpy crack yet.

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>>377285579
https://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/1327844097131584424/

Read the Killah's comments and Alex's comments on his page. Some Steam Mod went rogue and banned him for it. Valve is involved at this point. The code is linked to and he's using Kalaiden's quotes (who by the archive link in OP, you can tell he's not a very reliable source)

>>377283709
Fbi will pay you a visit if you do skiddie shit, and that's probably exactly what he did. Take your head out of the gutter and stop thinking of cp mate, not everything is about cp.

>>377285628
Source on that?

>>377285579
It's only deleting cracks for now but who knows what payload cuckaiden will add next after his autistic meltdown? After all it's automatically updating and calling home.

Better delete than trust a mental unstable cuckold.

>>377285838
>After all it's automatically updating
It's not, you can just cancel it after it asks you if you want to update.

>>377282703
this thing with the checking for the crack is sort of important overall, it means that people can't trust modders anymore. it was a really cunty thing to do.

>>377285879
And if you don't cancel it, it's automation.

>>377285812
from here the day this was released.
pretty sure in that 500 page steam thread as well.

Why else do you think everyone got so angry?...

>>377285762
Wait.

I bought automata and installed far, so this mod still can affect my pc? is it the real modder or someone impersonate him in steam?

>>377285783
its on his public record; he is a sex offender.
he even got a felony for it; also kicked out of his last job because he lied about it and attempted to evade a background check on it.

>>377286052
It's the real modder. He's just an autistic sperglord that WON'T ALLOW PIRACY Reee on his watch. Better delete that mod or get the disarmed version.

>>377282703
>poor people are entitled
What else is new?

>>377283952
When you're at sea for months on with no lass on board you stop worrying about how gay fucking your mate's ass is.

>>377285954
Why did you ever trust them to begin with? Because that is not sane. They are regular people just the same as everyone else.

>>377286052
it's a real modder, if you have any cracked games then yes it can disable them depending on how they were cracked.

I have the fitgirl repack version of nier with the Far mod nerfed. It can't do shit.

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>>377286052
Uninstall that shit NOW

It connects to the internet when you run the game. He can update it and I have a feeling this guy is gonna do some really crazy shit out of spite. He has one hell of a temper problem.

Here he is admitting to using SteamIDs to target specific users using a blacklist. When the "fix" detects that a specific user is running his mod, it executes malicious code that crashes their game and does god knows what else in the future.

>>377286409
There is a really high chance he will fuck it up soon also; he has a court date in 2 weeks for "minorly violating parole" due to this mod.

Fuck anti-pirates!

>>377286531
I don't doubt it. This guy is unhinged.

>>377282853
sauce?

>>377286409
Wow, what's wrong with that guys head? You have to be completely mentally unhinged to have even a tiny bit of respect for Alexander.

>>377286531
>he has a court date in 2 weeks for "minorly violating parole" due to this mod.
Source

>>377282703
If I had been Keldain I'd have put a CryptoLocker that only starts itself if you use a pirate copy of Nier Automata. It would ask you to specifically buy Nier Automata on Steam and send a copy of the purchase proof from Steam to an email.
Imagine the butthurt of pirates being forced to buy a game or lose all their data thanks to the cryptolocker.

>>377286621
I am involved in the florida court systems; I really can't say more than that.
Just know that he was let out early on good behavior with parole and this majorly violates it.

This isn't the same as the borderless gaming thing is it?

>>377286690
That would probably be illegal, booby trapping your own house is already illegal.
Malware is malware.

>>377286690
If i were him i'd release the source code and not bitch about pirates reeeeee because i'm not a manchild who wants to tell other people how to live their lives.

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>>377286597
>not respecting alex on some level
Admittedly a sperg but at least he uses his autism to BTFO Denuvo shills instead of freak out over the color of Sonic the Hedgehog's arms

He's pretty cool desu, he's in the /tesog/ threads all the time

>>377286825
>>377286840
>muh illegality
Who gives a fuck if you get to fuck over a pirate. He would be hailed as a hero and pirates could do nothing about it.
>>377286840
>butthurt piratecuck

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Why does mainstream media want to shit on me so much for pirating?

It's almost as though they think by insulting us enough we are suddenly going to change our tune and buy stuff from release date.

Why can't people just accept that if I can get shit for free; I'm going to get shit for free? I think buying food for myself and paying my bills is probably more important than vidya, so why demonize me over it?

>tfw probably spend under $100 on games a year
FEELS
GOOD
MAN

>>377286531
>violating parole
>had a run in with the Feds a while back
What did he do? Make child porn?

>>377286790
>I am involved in the florida court systems

kek u so funny. Do u like Lolis

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>>377286916
>t. butthurt corporate puppet

>>377286929
Why even justify it? It's free shit, you're not dead poor are you?

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Has Nier been cracked just recently or have I just not noticed? Gonna look for a download now, thanks for letting me know guiz.

>>377286916
Retard

>>377286973
No, but he did distribute.

>>377282703
The only people who have a problem with this are pirates and shitters. Everyone else can just use FAR without having to resort to whining on this board all day every day about what this guy does to pirates.

>>377287106
>It's okay for modders to distribute malware it is their mod after all :^)

>>377287019
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did that though. Imagine the butthurt from retards like you when you got hit by his cryptolocker.
>>377287085
That's not an argument. But I guess your anger makes you unable to argue back at all. But hey that's to be expected from a manchild who does not buy his games.

>I JUST PIRATE TO TRY GAMES, FUCK GAMES WITH NO DEMOS. IF I LIKE IT I'LL BUY IT!
>new DOOM had a demo
>was pirated out the fucking ass anyway

faggot retards. At least own up to it.

>>377287035
Not dead poor no

I live on less than $300 AUD (pls no bully) a week so I'm not exactly rolling in it. However I can pay all my shit with no problems and still have money left over for stuff

I love to see pirate cucks btfo. All should be arrested and thrown in a jail cell.

>>377287198
Why are you so buttfrustrated
It doesn't even affect you, DOOM made a killing.

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>>377287165
The only thing I can imagine are the lawsuits when his shitty code affects legitimate customers (as it will when Denuvo shits the bed and legit customers have to pirate the game they bought)

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>>377287165
Retard.

>>377287165
>implying i'm going to use his version of the software
>implying I'd update on day one of it being released
>implying i'm stupid

>>377287198
the demo came out after the game was already cracked.

i even pirated the beta, fuck you

>>377287198
They'll always come up with new excuses. When they can't think of anything that was done wrong they'll just say "the game was shit anyway so it's not worth my money" even though they played it from start to finish.

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>>377287198
>people pirate DOOM because fuck Denuvo
>Denuvo gets removed 4 months after being cracked
>DOOM sees a sudden surge in sales
>doubles sales according to SteamSpy since Denuvo removal in mid-December

HMMMMM I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED HERE

>>377282703
Honestly I agree with the modder.

>>377287256
I don't feel this extreme, The laws are so grey about this stuff, however, I can't stand the people who pirate games and attempt to justify it as if piracy doesn't take away real sales from the game itself. If there was a machine to copy any car you laid your eyes on, do you think people would bother buying cars? Fuck no. But pirates would say I WAS JUST TRYING THE CAR, IF I LIKE IT I'LL BUY IT! meanwhile situations like >>377287198
exist

if you're going to pirate, don't attempt to justify it. You are gaining access to a bunch of devs hard work without paying for it. The law is grey and you won't go to jail, but dont act like its completely justifiable.

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>>377287410
You're a fucking idiot/contrarian faggot then.

>>377287416
I can justify it because Denuvo was created by the makers of SecuROM and that was literally malware to the point where microsoft stepped in because it created unremovable vulnerabilities on your system if you installed a single SecuROM game

I'm supposed to be okay with these cunts making an auth-server based DRM with absolutely no oversight? How do I know this isn't malware too? Not to mention the implications of them abandoning Denuvo (like they did SecuROM after 7 years) meaning my games become unplayable

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>>377287416
>last game I torrented was dragons dogma
pic related is the outcome of torrenting that game
Don't assume people who torrent games don't buy them if they like them.

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>ITT booty blasted paid shills who think playing the ''s-s-starving d-d-evs'' card will make people change their tune
really gets the head rocks oscillating

>b-b-but you c-c-cant justify it!1!
Why would I want to? I'm getting shit for free?

>>377287390
D44M was on sale from August 2nd to August 7th. Steamspy uses a rolling average, which is why the increase is stable and has a small delay.

>>377287390
I
have
never
had
a
problem
with
denuvo

if you buy the game there is no fucking issue with denuvo. zero. none at all. You faggots just use it as an excuse to pirate on "principle". And the only reason sales shot up when denuvo was removed is because a bunch of bandwagoning retards jump on the latest trend which was hating denuvo for a while.

Here is an argument you literally cannot refute

If everyone pirated, there would be ZERO incentive to make video games. If your response is "but everyone doesn't!" you've lost the argument before you even begin typing.

Look, a fuck ton of people pirate, and that doesnt bother me. What bothers me are people who pirate and stand on some moral highground or say they do it on principle. Like just admit you're gaining access to someone's hard work without paying for it and if everyone did that, there would be waaaay less incentive to bother making video games and you'd have low budget shit/microtransactions/some other retarded way of making money out of this industry everyone would be getting shit for free in.

>>377287538
The only reason to have an issue with denuvo was if you wanted to pirate the game.

>>377282946
It compensates for denuvo's performance loss.

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>>377287692
>I haven't had a problem with it so it's okay
>literally 100% reliant on an authentication server
>created by a company that abandoned SecuROM, their extremely successful DRM solution in less than 7 years
I can't possibly see this mentality backfiring.

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>>377283661
>Use the one linked in OP

where

>>377287692
>wall of text
LALALALALALALALALALA FAGGOT LALALALALALALAA tldr

>>377287692
>0.05 USD has been added to your shillbank

>>377285954
What's cunty about not wanting people who didn't buy the game to use your mod? He made it in his own time for free. If you don't like it, then just fuck off and get a basic income m8.

There's nothing cunty about not allowing people who didn't buy the fucking product to use your add-on. Good on him.

What's cunty is whining and bitching about not being able to use something you didn't pay for the way you want.

>>377287801
SuckuROM was shit too

>>377287538
>idiot/contrarian

Why?

what are you upset about

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>>377287875
He openly admits Denuvo can and likely will shut down and refused to remove the anti-piracy check in the event of a Denuvo shutdown meaning his shit will target legitimate users. Fuck him.

>>377287935
Because you're going against your interests as a consumer.

>>377287692
No,
If everyone pirated videogames then they wouldn't be made for money, they would be made for passion and glory.

This is why crackers do what they do.
This is also why the best videogames are made.

>>377287801
I've bought games with denuvo and my system continued working perfectly, I had constant access to my games, and I experienced no issues at all.

>>377286840
But the source code is already released?

>>377288001
How am I going against my interests as a consumer? That's not even a factor here.

>>377288049
Obviously, basically do what he did, without all the bitching and trying to screw over people.

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>>377288040
>Denuvo stops games from supporting Linux or OS X. Not only do the publishers not release ports, but using Denuvo means third parties like the Wine project can't support them either. Games like Inside, the sequel to Limbo, are an example of Denuvo stopping Linux support. Limbo supported Linux and OS X, and Inside is built using Unity engine which can easily make Linux builds. But because they are using Denuvo, it can't be played on any other operating system. Another example is Doom 2016. The beta version worked great on Linux when used with Wine project. But the final release came encumbered with Denuvo, effectively stopping Wine from supporting the game on Linux and OS X.

Surely this can't backfire with Windows slowly dying

>f at some point in the future any part of their DRM service chain is shut down due to internet outage or a company going bankrupt, games will be inaccessible. Some people reply "but surely these companies will provide a method access if they are shutting down servers!" If a company is in bankruptcy and there's an outcry to get patches out for 15 year old games, I doubt they're going to make it a priority to devote resources and development time to creating patches. It wouldn't be the first time a library of DRM-encumbered crapware went poof.

You better hope those auth servers that are maintained by a company that abandoned their previous DRM solution after 7 years remain up anon :^)

>>377288012
> they would be made for passion and glory

AHAHAHAHA yeah you'd be playing fucking newgrounds games forever. Games like Red Orchestra, GodHand, Fzero, these games cannot be made for passion by 3 guys in their basement. You need to pay teams of people to work fucking tirelessly for years to get these kinds of projects done and the only way to keep them around and fed/able to pay their rent and devote tons fo time to these projects is to pay them, you can only pay them by knowing you will profit in some way on your finished product. What is this dillusion? Yeah sure all games can be made for pure passion with no return to their creators besides thank you notes, have fun playing unity/blender made games by indieshit dev 100356

why do people even care about this cunts mod, using Windowed Borderless Gaming works just fine

>>377287835
>>377287867
not arguments

>>377288012
Anon that's the dumbest thing you've said all day.

>>377288012
Holy shit you're a fucking idiot. Full time work studio work requires pay. Pay requires profit.

>>377287692
>If your response is "but everyone doesn't!" you've lost the argument before you even begin typing.
You can't just decide that. It's exactly because there are still more plenty of people who are willing and or even prefer to pay for it that it works.
I might as well just say If your response is "but file sharing reduces sales!" you've lost the argument before you even begin typing.

You're just being ridiculous.

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>>377288198
But Red Orchestra was literally a mod anon
the mod version was better than standalone


>>377288224
Because modders doing this shit can't be viewed as acceptable. Just wait until this kind of autism hits TES/Fallout's modding community.

>>377288198
>godhand, Red Orchestra, and Fzero all sold poorly because of piracy.
>you need 1000 people to make a passionate game. Like undertale since it sold over 10 million dollars worth.

Way to prove yourself wrong.

>>377288258
Epic maymay. Stay mad dipshit

>>377288279
>>377288286
>Mass effect andromeda is a good game.

$0.05 for everyone!

>>377288348
We wouldn't have Undertale without RPG Maker, and we wouldn't have RPG Maker in a world where nobody buys video games.

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>>377288341
Oh shit it was?

This looks better than RO1
http://www.moddb.com/mods/red-orchestra

>reminded of pic related
Fuck it. I want another video game industry crash

anyone got that one Russian forum with all the cracked games on it?

>>377288154
>worry about developing for OS with less than 5% of market share

supply and demand my friend

and as for the second point, if a company feels that its best defense against piracy is a server connection/authentication, I wholly support their decision. If people stopped pirating they wouldn't have to do this. It's like someone house getting broken into 400 times then acting confused when they put fucking barbed wire around their house. Extreme problems call for extreme solutions. I know its difficult to gauge exactly how big of a hit piracy makes on game sales (i wasn't going to buy it anyway lmao!) but with the staggering numbers of downloads/seeders on some titles, companies are NOT in the wrong to attempt to prevent it.

>>377288443
That's the most ridiculous strawman I've seen in a while. Shit son, you just got even dumber.

>>377288464
It's made in gamemaker you dummy.

Pretty sure gamemaker is completely free to use.

and finally, the game was FUNDED by kickstarter.

I've never seen so many denuvo-cucks blown out in 1 thread.

>>377282703
>Le SALT OVERLOAD XDDDD
Please upboat my edgy twitter may may

>>377288516
maybe you need to pay attention to thread and see how >>377288198
was also just blown out.

>>377288371
not an argument
>>377288341
my bad, I meant RO2. It comes down to opinion but personally i prefer 2 waaaay over 1.
>>377288348
Games like undertale a fucking rarities and you know it. How often do games developed by one person even get to market let alone become fucking massive successes? And even then, do you think that goober would have made that game if he knew he wouldn't make any money? Of course not, thats why he didn't put it out there for free. People are motivated by money, get over it.

>people ignoring my (admittedly anecdotal) proof that some people who torrent do, indeed, buy games they torrent if they like them enough.

>>377288494
Linux' marketshare is significantly higher on gaming PCs than anyone really suspects. They just dualboot (out of necessity)

>>377288620
He was paid before making it.
Wow, amazing. I said great games are made with passion and you said "that's rare"

No fucking duh you retarded shill. Most games are made for money, and most games fucking suck.

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Why does /v/ in particular trash downloading all the time?
It's the only board on the entire site that does this.

And to even go as far as to support and defend DRM practises that really only ends up causing more issues to legitimate customers more than illegitimate ones in the end.

Can someone provide cliffs on this situation?

>>377288714
shills
retards

>>377288734
read the op?

>>377288537
you just btfo yourself. He made profit in the end. Kickstarter might as well be paying the guy to make something. Couple that with the fact that he also SOLD the final product. You are literally proving yourself wrong here.

this game most likely would not have been made in a world where everyone pirates games.


>>377288292
>I might as well just say If your response is "but file sharing reduces sales!" you've lost the argument before you even begin typing.

You really have to play dumb to think there aren't people out there who pirate games and don't end up paying for them even if they like the games.

>>377288640
Everyone in my circle of friend dual boots, save for the one that likes win10.

hold up

this fucking game is 45 gigs?

>>377288537
Okay anon, you blew us out with an example of a game that was paid for, and took years to make, and mechanically doesn't hold a candle to a single AAA game out there, it only works as a throwback to 20 year old games both in visuals and gameplay. How exactly does this help your argument that games would be better if no one spent a single dime on them? I can just rephrase my statement to "if Toby hadn't been paid he would never have bothered making the game".

>>377288816
This. Mine too. I wouldn't be surprised if Linux marketshare was actually like 15-20% on Steam accounting for the fact that people boot into Windows for gayming

>>377288797
Updated cliffs* including this thread. Sorry I should've specify that

>>377288714
literally shills and retards.
I've given nintendo tens of thousands of dollars over my lifetime, they stopped making me want to support them. I won't buy any of their consoles, but if I can get the games for free and play them on my pc instead of buying the same ones for a 8th time they release it, i'm going to go with that.

>>377288883
>retards defending Denuvo because LOL PIRATES BTFO

You missed nothing. Also Kalaiden might be into some weird shit since he was visited by the FBI

>>377288697
paid before AND after. But this is irrelevant. Cases like this ARE rare. I can count the amount of single person developed successful massive hit titles on one hand, and even still, those people deserve even MORE sales, not less. Not sure where you're going with this.

>>377282703
Not this shit again.

>>377288863

20GB on the ass, 25GB more on the feels

>>377288801
>Kickstarter might as well be paying the guy to make something.
No, Kickstarter is literally "Hey, here's my money because I appreciate what you do, I hope it goes well for you." It's not a purchase nor an investment.

Which is exactly how good piracy works. You give money to good developers because you appreciate them and you avoid funding crappy products.

>>377288801
tetris called.
it said you're wrong.

You know why everyone in this thread knows the name fitgirl? it isn't because they get paid.

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>>377288939
>implying it is ever going to stop

Just wait until Valve responds to him.

>>377288620
Stay mad

>>377288714
the illegitimate customers are causing the problems for everyone. That is the issue. There is no blanket solution that solves this problem without affecting legitimate customers, so both are going to be affected by it, surely you understand this?

>>377288994
I mean the stalking, why do you care about him so much.

Someone's pushing a narrative how piracy is looked down in cool circles. He fell for that shit, thinking it was true. You can see that shit on /v/ too.

>>377288635
Yes, all 1% of them. Clearly that justifies all piracy.

>>377288154
Best example is Windows 10 now blocking old CD medium based SafeDisc and SecuROM, for being "too intrusive" and suddenly your whole collection is broken and worthless.
Thats only thing you get for being honest customer.

>>377289018
>implying piracy is relevant
Where are those millions of sales Denuvo is supposed to get from pirates?

>>377288868
videogames are going to end up like hollywood movies.
They won't be pretty and the only people willing to buy them are going to be the chinese.

>>377289053
proof that it's 1%?

>>377288953
what? People who donate to kickstarters aren't just doing it as a pat on the back, 99% of them are interested in the final product, thats why they donate. What are you trying to say? A kickstarter donation literally fits the definition of the word "investment"

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>>377289053
>1% of pirates buy the games they crack
Bullshit. I know it's all anecdotal but even Gabe knows pirates are just disenfranchised, pissed off former customers.

>>377289038
Its funny.

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>>377283225
>>377283226
>>377283313
Automata has OK gameplay coupled with fat android ass and another android who is so naked that she's not even wearing most of her skin.

>>377288925
thanks

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>>377289113
Feels good to be part of that 1%

t. gamedev that supports piracy and is part of the Kick It Forward program

>>377288714
It's frustrating that the hard and passionate work of dozens of people is shit on by pathetic lowlifes that think they deserve to have great games handed to them on a silver platter for free and not let anyone get anything out of it besides themselves and then try to justify it by coming up with new """"""""principles"""""""" every year on which to not buy games.

>>377287692
Well i was out of internet for a month so fuck you

>>377288969
tetris was made in a time where scores of artists and animations were not expected to pitch into a final product. Games with the production value of tetris are a dime a dozen on addictinggames these days. Times change.
>>377289005
not an argument

>>377289038
Because he set a dangerous precedent for this entire industry.

Also how is anything done to him stalking? He has his full name on his profile and people started investigating after he said he was visited by the FBI

>>377288931
I want that number you can count on 1 hand to be a number you can't count at all.
If all of the "big banks" of AAA publishing broke into 400 companies each, everyone would have way more well thought out games. The cream could rise to the top by word of mouth and merit instead of advertisements and paid reviews.

I aint even a commie.

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>mfw I pirate because I can and to see people buttblasted that I get shit for free while they have to pay for it only to feel good about themselves

>>377289187
good, at least you're giving money to some part of the process.

I am playing the game right now and really don't understand the hype 12 hours in at the forest at the moment story is FINALLY starting to go somewhere. Game is full of mmo tier side quests and the world feels so lifeless and the amount of back-tracking I have done already is ridiculous and I know there is just going to be more sidequests later on that make me go back to the same area AGAIN.

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>>377289212
Denuvo has been a constant justification to pirate anything that uses it since 2014

Publishers can either pay attention or I'm going to download their shit because I'm not giving those SecuROM cunts another dime

They screwed me once. Never again.
>>377289054

>>377289187
keep up the good work. Piracy fag here.
fund the ones that deserve it so we all have something in the end.

>>377289243
atari crash called, they said see you soon.

>>377289291
>If all of the "big banks" of AAA publishing broke into 400 companies each, everyone would have way more well thought out games. The cream could rise to the top by word of mouth and merit instead of advertisements and paid reviews.

and their motivation would STILL be profit. Not every developer has the time and disposable income to make games out of "passion" for no return at all besides thank you cards.

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>>377289351
Question piratefriend, do you ever buy anything Or am I being misguided in my approach that if I make a good game, support it with free content and treat the user with respect, the pirates will gladly support me?

>>377289439
Not him, but I buy games I torrent and enjoy.

>>377289341
If you think you are above the game, just don't play it.

>>377289439
> the pirates will gladly support me?

lmao, support you with what? Thank you cards? Certainly you won't be supported financially. I mean, maybe if you make a kickstarter because people like >>377289187
for some reason will give you money before you've made a game but not after for some reason

>>377288801
>You really have to play dumb to think there aren't people out there who pirate games and don't end up paying for them even if they like the games.
And that's completely irrelevant for as long as there are others who do. Sure there might be someone who decide to download the game through some torrent or something and may not ever end up spending money on the game. But he may also end up getting one of or several of his friends, or their friends, to actually pay for the product if it actually ends up being to his liking.

And studies still show that the people who download the most games, movies, and music are the biggest fans with the most interest in said games, movies, and music. And they also happen to be the same people who spend the most money on games, movies, and music. Since it's what they're the most interested in, so it's naturally where their money tends to end up being placed.

The fact that there are people who would download games without ever paying for them is an absolutely terrible argument for the ability to be able to download games illegitimately actually affecting sales negatively. Because there is more to it than that.

>>377289439
I pirated Hotline Miami waay back when

I was so enthralled with the game that I ended up buying it roughly 8 times, gifting it to some friends alongside buying the sequel for me and a friend.

so it happens anon

>>377289127
needs another update, not even a month later and we have vanquish now.
Jet Set Radio Future next hopefully given Sega has said their pc ports are far from over.

>>377289540
>not Kickstarting
If you don't Kickstart, you have no justification in complaining about rehashed AAA shit and how all truly indieshit looks and feels like it was made by a high schooler.

People need to eat and have a roof over their heads. You think games just pop out of thin air?

>>377289540
>pirates won't support someone because it doesn't fit my agenda.
fuck off

>>377289774
why not have the same passion for paying developers for a finished product that you do for paying them to develop?

In fact, paying them for a finished product is superior because you actually know what you're getting.

>>377289782
what exactly is my agenda? To have people pay for video games? Oh my god, the horror!

>>377289439
spent tens of thousands on consoles over the years and pc games.
I just got tired of being burnt so many times by the companies that I had a bit of brand loyalty towards.
Started with a gba flash cart like 15 years ago and played tons of games that I had never seen hard copies of, went into emulation for the same deal, went into softmodding for the same deal, still bought games even during that.
finally just went full out pirate after it became clear I could download the game at the same speed officially as I could pirating it, and save tons of money, after everything went digital.

Do I buy games? I haven't felt the need to in a long time, So many games I buy I end up deleting after like 5 minutes and then I say "wow, im so glad i didn't waste my money on that piece of shit" (strafe for example)

If i think the dev deserves the money, I would want to give them money. I end up giving free advertising and praise most of the time.
If you make something with enough passion and make it so that you have a server to play on or something and I can enjoy it with other people I will buy that game.

Gmod has been one of the best investments I've ever bought, only because there are hardly any limits to the gametypes. It isn't because I can't pirate it, it's because the experience the platform provides is worth it to me.
I even fucking bought csgo just for the texture pack and have 23 minutes on it after having it for 3-4 years.

>>377289625
So if every game had a demo and no DRM, would you no longer support piracy?

>>377289905
Because without funding, they're working in a library off WiFi and living in a dumpster at night.

If you truly want to send a message that publishers can go fuck themselves, Kickstart stuff that looks worthwhile. I have never gotten burned because I know what to look for.

>>377289439
I've been pirating almost everything since SFC/GBA emulation and PS2 modchips were a thing, and you can't stop me.

>>377289905
>he think he pays developers by buying AAA shit
When you buy big publisher game all who made that game had already received their paychecks and some times laid off.

>>377289774
Kickstarting is not a good platform for funding games. See: Nearly every kickstarter game ever made being shit, the devs struggling to stick to the deadlines, the budget always blowing out of proportion. You are just taking a fucking massive risk if you ever support any kickstarter game out there, no matter how promising the team or the concept of their game looks. I see just as little reason to be a kickstarter backer as I do buying shit games. I want my money's worth, if I don't see an extremely high probability of that I'm not buying your shit.

>pirate a game
>turns out to be good
>buy another game from that studio
>if they ever make a shit game, you essentially get your money back
>also buy multiples and gift them to your friends

Wow, that was so fucking difficult.

>>377287416
Stating facts isn't always justification. It is a known fact that pirates spend more in media than nonpirates, and also a known fact that piracy often leads to increased sales. The "I was trying it to buy it with I like it" excuse is often true.

>>377290007
No. How is that equivalent?
Demos while good are basically nothing more really elaborate trailers.

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>>377290070
Not him but fuck you. There's been a lot of great games that have come as a result of Kickstarter

Even Star Citizen

>>377290090
Alternate version
>developer goes bankrupt because everyone pirated it was waiting for the next one to pay them back
Literally STALKER

>>377289774
Nah, I'll keep complaining about AAA rehashed shit while I look forward to and enjoy AA games that strike a healthy balance between creativity and production values. Kickstarter is cancer.

>>377290090
>pirate a game
>turns out to be good
>buy it
>another game from the studio comes out
>pirate the game
>it's shit
>don't buy it

Even better.

>>377290007
not him, but yeah I would support it.
that doesn't mean I wouldn't try all of those demos and end up buying some of them.

D44M made 3 big mistakes.
They put the beta behind a paywall.
They put the game behind "uncrackable drm"
They put the demo out months after the game was released.

>>377289953
your agenda paints all people who torrent in a bad light, when that is demonstrably not the case. You group everyone who torrents into some image you create for them, and then trash them all because they match the image you made of them. stop doing that.

>>377290069
This, but they are going to ignore this post because they have absolutely no argument against it.

>>377290207
>Star Citizen

How about you wait for it to actually come out before you say that, and only as an actually functional game where you have goals and motivations to play it instead of it being some bugged out the ass tech demo.

>>377290207
Funny thing, I've bought STALKER two times.

You have no idea how gamedev works, if you believe piracy has any effect on the development team.

Publishers hate it, because they only care about shifting copies. They have to blame something when their unrealistic sales expectations turn out to be bullshit.

>>377290216
>AA
>existing in 2000+17

>>377290090
This. I spend essentially the entirety of my disposable income on games. I have no other hobbies after all.
But if I am out of money anyway. Who would get hurt from me still getting games?

It's nonsense to be upset by it. And if you wanted me to actually buy your game in particular. Then perhaps you should have just made a good enough and or simply interesting enough of a game for it to rank high enough so that it would get purchased before the money runs out. And the world moves on.

Those games would have ended up being lost sales anyway. Because without money you can't purchase anything. But if their game is great, I may very well end up purchasing future games from them, or even that one game if it ended up being magnificent enough.

>>377290326
I've played 3.0

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>>377289127
I still dont get why they get upset, people who dont have your favorite console are going to get the chance to play some of the games you like.

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>tfw there are actual unironic anti-pirates on neo-/v/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI

>>377290470
they are a very small, very vocal minority.
kind of like how "progressive" people are steering AAA game dev right now. Look what happened with yooka-laylee.

There hasn't been a thread on that game in weeks, people don't even want to fucking pirate it.

>>377290356
>What is Nier: Automata
>What is Bloodborne
>What is Yakuza
>What is Gravity Rush
>What is Nioh
>What is Persona 5
>What is The Last Guardian
>What is Bayonetta
>What is Vanquish

>>377290584
>Look what happened with yooka-laylee.

I still find that entire shitstorm funny. Idiots had it coming.

>>377290629
>implying any of those could've existed without a publisher

You stupid fuck

>>377290670
That isn't what AA means you stupid fuck

>>377290640
Was the shitstorm just the johntron shit or was there anything else?

>>377290724
that's all they had to do to piss 3.1 million people off.
So much free advertisement wasted.

>>377290724
It turned out to be a shit game after the jontron thing, which just made it even funnier.

I wish Squeenix would just patch the game so this shit goes away.

>>377290874
They will, but their average patch time is usually 4 to 8 months.

>>377290874
I had to roll back my gpu drivers just to play it.
Do i enjoy the game? sure.
Is it $60 enjoyable? idk I haven't beat it yet.
Do i regret pirating it?
considering it was 20gb smaller to download the torrent and I got it twice as fast as if I had bought it, fuck no.
Would i buy it?
I'm only playing it because I could pirate it, If i had to buy it I wouldn't have wanted it in the first place.

>>377286595
Very Pleasant Secret Special Training by muronaga chaashuu

>>377291097
If you play the game to completion and still don't buy it you are just a scumbag.

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>>377291097
>pirating NieR
>missing out on the special ending, the most powerful part of the game

>>377291250
Nah, if you play the game to completion, you liked it enough to justify the price, and you have the disposable income, but you don't buy it, THEN you are kind of a dick. That's it.

>>377289018
>the illegitimate customers are causing the problems for everyone.
Obviously not considering pirates don't have to deal with the DRM.
>There is no blanket solution that solves this problem without affecting legitimate customers
Except for, y'know...not using DRM that'll just end up being cracked and abandoned anyways?

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>>377291250
>you are just a scumbag.

>>377291350
Its all emulated man

>>377287875
>>377287692
fuck off retard. your argument is retarded. What you want anyone who has ever pirated a game to come forward and say "hey i actually pirated the game because i wanted someones hard work for free" nobody does that you fucking idiot. People pirate simply because they don't want to spend money. and "just get a job or income and buy them waaah" it's not usually about income, albeit third world countries that pirate, it usually is due partially to income but more so their countries economy. Sure it's easy for you to say "just get a job and buy the games waaah" but people in India and the Phillipines for example, have to choose a week worth of food, or a video game. that's ridiculous and i'd go as far as saying you're an ignorant cunt that couldn't give a shit about anything outside of his first world bubble. kill yourself you pedantic retard.

>>377291434
If you played it for that long then it is already good enough to justify the price. Playing a game for 40 hours and then going "nah this doesnt deserve my money" is straight up being a greedy self-absorbed scumbag. There's no justifying that kind of behavior.

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>>377291623
>If you played it for that long then it is already good enough to justify the price.
Not really.

>>377291350
You don't need an internet connection to get help. Random characters from other Yoko Taro games show up instead

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>>377291680
>tfw i bought ME A right before the crack for 47$

>>377289426
FN@F, regardless of any personal feelings I have towards it, became a multi-million dollar franchise in less than a year by one dude.

So if one dude could come up with a franchise in less than a year, why the fuck can't the rest of these modern devs give us at least one game that runs well without adding a bunch of stupid shit on it like bullshots and DRM?

Oh right, because suits are incapable of making a long-term decision that actually BENEFITS them in the long run because of greed and stupidity.

>>377291778
Jesus. Consider Sudoku

>>377289538
Nah, I'll just keep pirating games.

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>>377291864
Me on the left

>>377289038
>literal sex offender parades around the internet like a high and mighty dipshit
fuck dunno bro, what a mystery

>>377282703
He's well within his rights.
This entitlement over other people's skills has to stop. It's like telling a strongman that they're an asshole for not helping you move because they're so strong and you're weak.

>>377291680
Yes it is. You obviously derived some enjoyment from DA2 or you wouldn't have played it for 100 fucking hours. Even if you think it's a shit game, you still enjoyed it. This is just a pathetic excuse you come up with to justify to yourself not having to spend more money.

You know what I did with DA2? I dropped it like a hot potato because it was fucking garbage. If it had come out today I wouldn't even have played it in the first place because I can tell when a game isn't worth my time now.

>>377291585
>"hey i actually pirated the game because i wanted someones hard work for free" nobody does that you fucking idiot
Regardless of what they wanted, that is what they did. There is a moral dilemma to it and you can't just pretend it doesn't exist. People can't afford it? Everything gets lowered to a reasonable price eventually. What you mean to say is they can't afford to buy it day 1, which is not a big issue to anyone but teenagers who want to shitpost about it on the internet. Furthermore, entertainment doesn't come for free in any medium, why should video games?

>The people who are fighting for your consumer rights and corporate bullshit are the pirates

>Retards only focus on the cracking scene

Why would you not support them in their endeavours, why the actual fuck would you even be a "Do it for free" corporate shill other than mental illness.

>>377287692
>Doom with Denuvo
>45-75FPS with stuttering making it unplayable
>Doom without Denuvo
>95-120FPS runs perfectly

Really makes you think...

>>377282703

This is why we can't have nice things.

>guy fixes a scandalously badly optimised pc game for free.
> Make a protection HE KNOWS will be cracked just to show he doesn't support piracy.
>people lose their shit because apparently, pirates are good guys now.

>no one to fix the shitty ports now.

Nice shooting yourself in the foot.
The PC fanbase definitely is the most cancerous one.

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>Tfw bought the game.
>Tfw still happy it for cracked.
Good, fuck Denuvo.

>>377291730
Did they patch it? I remember seeing other people just being asked over and over again to go online.

Well if it's true that's nice I guess.

>>377283098
>mash random light and heavy strings and hold down pod attack
>mash dodge when things get some what serious
>healing abilities out the ass
only boss fights were remotely challenging or interestig, and some of the boss fights were bull shitty as well. the only one that i liked was the marionette since ive only done ending A, adam and eve were bull shit, the first ball fight was alright but the second one is full retard

>>377289439
Hey man i've been pirating games for over 10 years now. AMA.

>neets in their moms basement mocking other neets in their moms basement

The only thing I get from this is that piratecucks are so buttblasted they would gladly ruin a man's life for not handing out his mod.

>>377292206
You're the cancerous faggot here.

>>377292206
The only winning move is to buy a Sony Playstation 4!

>>377292195
At least it's not as bad as microsoft's "piracy protection" (that doesn't protect anything). Their games come with the files encrypted so the game needs to decrypt everything on the fly. This is why the CPU requirements for Forza Horizon 3 are so high. You get stuttering for apparently no reason if you have a more modest CPU, especially in crowded places.

>>377290069
like I said, I have no problem giving devs money to start their projects, however this shouldnt reduce enthusiasm from buying the final product

>>377290131
> It is a known fact that pirates spend more in media than nonpirates, and also a known fact that piracy often leads to increased sales. The "I was trying it to buy it with I like it" excuse is often true.

I'm going to need multiple sources for those massive claims

>>377292089
>Yes it is. You obviously derived some enjoyment from DA2 or you wouldn't have played it for 100 fucking hours.
No it is not. Something being free lowers expectations. I don't like popcorn too much and would never buy any on my own, but if someone offers it for free I'm likely to have some.
While I certainly did enjoy some parts of DA2, it is in no way worth even 30 bucks. Just because I have excessive tolerance for poor game design and am autistic about finishing shit I start doesn't mean the devs get to have my $60 for that mess of a game.

Either way, if you honestly believe the game isn't worth the money then it makes no difference if you play it for one hour or one hundred, the devs shouldn't get your money.

>>377290150
jesus christ how can you argue with this. Do you have to play half of a game before you know if you would pay for it?

>>377292405
Multiple get posted almost every piracy thread, how new are you?

>>377292195
there is no proof denuvo is the sole thing affecting performance. You realize the patch that removed denuvo also had other changes to the game right?

>>377292452
Just because I'd drink a whole bottle of gatorade someone gave me for free doesn't mean I'd buy a bottle of gatorade.

>>377292360
>changing the subject
We were talking about supporting developers, shill, you know thing that you don't actually do by buying big publishers games.

>>377292506
>The research targeted Internet users over 12 years old with the aim of gathering information on the way they consume movies, music, TV shows, video games, software and books to assist with copyright enforcement policy making. The results are now in and they interesting to say the least.

Literally using mommy and daddy's credit card, but thats not even the best part.

>based on self reporting

ahahahahaha yeah im not so sure pirates would willingly say "of course I barely buy anything" and would much rather lie and say they spend tons of money on things to make piracy look good.

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>>377292405
>The "I was trying it to buy it with I like it" excuse is often true
t. pirate

>>377292545
Piracy is not equivalent to anything in the real world. There is no machine that makes copies of Gatorade for virtually no cost.

>>377292616
those publishers not only pay the developers but also market the games at a capacity which would be impossible without a big publisher's budget.

You can act like the big mean publishers are villains all you want but they have made some fantastic games possible.

>>377292654
yes I'm sure you've bought every single game you've liked that you've pirated

God pirates are pathetic, just buy the shit like a normal person.

>>377282703
holy shit, you are actually so mad, that you are posting this every day

you need to calm the fuck down

>>377292318

Kill yourself stupid cunt

>>377292654
it is, i posted proof in this very thread.

>>377286097
proof

>>377292631
>Literally using mommy and daddy's credit card
>Over 12 means 12
You're really reaching, anon.
>I'm not so sure pirates would willingly say "of course I barely buy anything"
Those findings are consistent with stuff like >>377290470. But go ahead, keep rejecting any evidence that challenges your worldview because you have buyer's remorse.

>>377292675
If there was, I still wouldn't buy gatorade. Probably wouldn't pirate it either but I might if I didn't know it tasted like garbage.

Hey retards you could always buy the game

>>377292889
No.

>>377292889
After I've played it and decided it's worth the price, and if I have enough spending money left over to do so, then sure thing boss.

>>377292889
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CAN'T MY MOM WON'T GIVE ME ANYMORE MONEY AFTER I SPENT IT ALL ON ANIME FIGURES

>>377292752
>advocating fucking marketing
So you don't like videogames, gotcha.

By the way you still didn't tell me how buying the game supports developers, as developers of most AAA and AA games do not get a dime from sells.

>>377292954
>>377292962

Well don't fucken bitch about the mod then, you want to be pathetic NEET fucks and not buy the game, the modder doesn't have to aloow you to play it

>>377293043
>Well don't fucken bitch about the mod then
Why would I? I pirated the mod and got it without his stupid drm malaware, it's pretty great.

>>377292421
>Food analogy
No.

>Just because I have excessive tolerance for poor game design and am autistic about finishing shit I start doesn't mean the devs get to have my $60 for that mess of a game.

And why not? Your excessive tolerance means you enjoyed that game. It was good enough for you, so why isn't it good enough to deserve being paid for? Even beneath all the layers of shit, it is still a functional game that took thousands of hours to make, and you managed to enjoy yourself for 100 hours from the hard work of others. And after that you still think you can sit there high and mighty and say "nah dis aint good enough for me".

>if you honestly believe the game isn't worth the money then it makes no difference if you play it for one hour or one hundred, the devs shouldn't get your money.

The problem is with how you weigh this worth. If you play it for one hundred hours, it's clearly not that bad (to you). The whole pirate mindset is problematic because it is so much easier to disregard a game after you have already played the whole thing for free, even if it doesn't deserve to be completely stolen like that. You went through the whole experience they worked for, that is something you should have paid for.

>>377288494
Is this guy trying to tell me that putting barbed wire around your house is a perfectly normal thing to do? Pls it can't be this bad in ameriland

>>377292520
>Buy game
>Deal with a bunch of stuttering that makes it unplayable

>Pirate game
>Runs perfectly and has all the other problems in its source code fixed for free

Man, I don't know why I didn't start pirating sooner, thanks for showing me the light friend.

>>377282703
>wanting to be a legit journalist
>using the word salt
kek

>>377292791
I have,

>>377292206
are you fucking stupid?
>>377292293
he ruined his own life when he became a sex offender idiot.
>>377292793
fuck up cunt, go protest womens rights in Saudi Arabia
>>377292752
developers get paid during the development of a game though you idiot. it's been said in this thread multiple times. THE DEVELOPERS WAGE IS EXACTLY THE SAME EVEN IF THE GAME SELLS 0 AND IS PIRATED BY THE ENTIRE WORLD. fuck me dead, read the thread you cock head.
>>377292808
>period in name field
what the fuck are you doing here retard?
>>377292889
hey virgin, i could always pirate that game and save the $100 it cost to have a good weekend and have sex with females. lmfao virgin. lol.

>>377292206
Didn't someone release a patch for his shitty malware that made it work without fucking up your system?

>>377293043
I never bitched about the mod retard.

>>377290347
>They have to blame something when their unrealistic sales expectations turn out to be bullshit.
4 million sales of the Tomb Raider reboot was not enough for launch month.

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@377293198

Here's your nothing you worthless shitposter

@377293253

isn't arguing lol

>>377293117
>And why not? Your excessive tolerance means you enjoyed that game.
No.
>Even beneath all the layers of shit, it is still a functional game that took thousands of hours to make
No one pays for the effort involved. People pay for results.
>And after that you still think you can sit there high and mighty and say "nah dis aint good enough for me".
That is correct. I wasted 90 hours on a shit free game, I wouldn't have wasted an hour on it if I had to pay for it.
>>377293117
>The problem is with how you weigh this worth. If you play it for one hundred hours, it's clearly not that bad (to you).
Again, no. And "not bad" is not the same as "worth $60.

I'll instead put that money into other games I also played for free, but weren't terrible.

>You went through the whole experience they worked for, that is something you should have paid for.
I paid nothing for it and I still felt ripped off.

>>377292976
marketing gets more people to buy a game which gives publishers more hope for devs which results in more funding which results in veterans devs getting raises/promotions. Its not hard to piece this stuff together.

>>377293198
>THE DEVELOPERS WAGE IS EXACTLY THE SAME EVEN IF THE GAME SELLS 0 AND IS PIRATED BY THE ENTIRE WORLD

They are still affected if it's a failure or a success.

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>>377283401
hah, so he is a fucking pedo, lol

>>377293198
>developers get paid during the development of a game though you idiot. it's been said in this thread multiple times. THE DEVELOPERS WAGE IS EXACTLY THE SAME EVEN IF THE GAME SELLS 0 AND IS PIRATED BY THE ENTIRE WORLD. fuck me dead, read the thread you cock head.

THEY GET RAISES AND PROMOTIONS AND SECURE JOBS IF THEIR GAME SELLS WELL YOU DUMMY. Jesus fuck why do you people pretend not to understand things.

>>377293198
>THE DEVELOPERS WAGE IS EXACTLY THE SAME EVEN IF THE GAME SELLS 0 AND IS PIRATED BY THE ENTIRE WORLD

You're a fucking retard

>company goes into debt
>company doesn't make profit
>developer loses their job

>>377293416
If it's a failure it's not because it was pirated. Unless it was a bad game trying to pass on hype, in which case it deserved to be a failure, good thing piracy exists.

>>377293478
>this nigga thinks devs self fund
LMAO @ U RN

>>377293372
>biggest drainage on budget
>marketing could ate up up to 50% of the entire thing
>all the money that could have been spent on polishing the game and making it better instead spent on selling it to make retards buy the halfassed game
>that is somehow good
/biz/ is down the block, motherfucker.

>>377293552

How do the devs make money? They get paid by a company that has to be profitable.

>>377293372
Marketing tends to inflate the costs of game development, takes away funds from other aspects that actually go into the game's design, and also increases the amount of sales required for the game to "break even," which for some games is so ridiculous that selling 1 million copies isn't enough anymore.

Buying the game only really serves the publishers more often than not because they're the ones who get first pick of the profits and are free to shut down studios who no longer bring in good profits. You think it's a coincidence that EA, Activision, and Ubisoft can create bomb after bomb after bomb yet still end up being one of the riches gaming corporations in the world?

>>377293198
>he ruined his own life when he became a sex offender idiot.
There's not a single shred of evidence and you're already preaching it like gospel. Almost like you have ulterior motives.

>>377293495
Dude, there are undoubtedly people who pirate video games and dont instead pay for them because pirating is fucking easy. Do you realize that your favorite games would get more sequels if piracy didn't exist? If people didn't pirate, games wouldn't have DRM. If games didn't have DRM, more people would buy them. By pirating games with DRM you're only furthering the problem. It's like "huh, how can I show these developers that attempting to protect your product is a bad idea? I know, I'll copy it and play it without paying for it! that'll work!"

If games in the future are all 100% always online/server authenticated/malwarespyware computer fucking programs, you have no one to blame but yourself.

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>>377282703
I don't support piracy.

I want good devs' games to be well-supported and well-bought so they keep getting contracts with lots of creative freedom from publishers, and I want bad devs' AAA shit to not be bought or played from anyone.

So whatever. Tantrums one way or the other are a fucking embarrassment to see but that doesn't affect my bottom line.

>>377282703
Where do I get the piracy friendly mod version?

>>377293173
>segmentnext
>journalists
lel

>>377293635
do you realize how fucking huge budgets are when you have a big publisher? 50% of a massive budget from a massive corporation is more than devs would ever hope to have as a budget if they were self funded. Maybe you should be directing yourself to /biz/

Pirates are fucking retarded. Why risk getting your ass sued by Denuvo when buying games is:
1) Cheap
2) Risk-free
3) The right thing to do?

I just don't see a logical reason to pirate other than "hurr durr sticking it to da man, right my niggas?"

>>377293685
There aren't many other computer crimes that you can do that involve the FBI anon.

>>377285783
Is this Kaldaien?

>>377293712
The sign says "chinese are faggots", just so you know.

>>377293764
>sued by denuvo
this entire post is retarded and fallacious at best

>>377293639
Devs are salaried employees. The studio (their employer) is contracted to make a game by the financiers, usually the publishers, who provide the money in exchange for acceptable progress towards the agreed upon release. Once a game ships the devs are done and dusted with it, unless the publisher is paying for patch support, DLC (which is these days factored into the initial contract). Sometimes there are sales or review score incentives which will reward studios for performance, but not every studio distributes these the same way.

>>377293694
>Dude, there are undoubtedly people who pirate video games and dont instead pay for them because pirating is fucking easy.
Of course. There are also lots of people who pirate videogames and do pay for them, generally spending more money on buying games than people who don't pirate.

>Do you realize that your favorite games would get more sequels if piracy didn't exist?
If piracy didn't exist, I would never have played my favorite game, and in all likelyhood it would have sold less. You need to stop having this fantasy where everybody who pirates would buy the game if they couldn't pirate it.

See: >>377290470, educate yourself a little.

>>377293764
you literally cannot argue with pirates because they can just say "I only buy games I like, I pirate to try them. I just so happen to have a massive history of games I've pirated and never bought because I havn't liked those games, pay no attention to the fact that I've completed over half of them/gotten countless hours of entertainment from my pirated copies"

>>377293840
>I don't understand that tampering with software (including Denuvo) is a crime
Good to know.

Who?

>>377293709
>I want good devs' games to be well-supported and well-bought so they keep getting contracts with lots of creative freedom from publishers, and I want bad devs' AAA shit to not be bought or played from anyone.

It's kind of funny, you SHOULD support piracy if that's your ideal scenario, because it's the best tool the consumers have to ensure this happens to a greater extent.

>>377293324
>No one pays for the effort involved. People pay for results.
Not how the world works. Only how entitled teenagers who can't afford anything want it to be. You want a product, you pay for it because it came from the hard, honest work of others. If you want to make sure it's something worth your money, that's why we have reviewers, fucktonnes of previews and discussion boards like this one. You don't just fucking take it for free and decide after the fact whether or not it was worth it. That's what makes you a pathetic scumbag and all you're really doing is making an attempt at justifying your greedy and selfish lifestyle.

>>377293831
Well, he's not wrong.

>>377293885
source on your claim?

>>377293694
>Do you realize that your favorite games would get more sequels if piracy didn't exist?
Do you realize that in today's industry, you can sell millions of copies yet still be considered "performing below average?"
>If people didn't pirate, games wouldn't have DRM.
And some people wouldn't pirate if the alternatives didn't include spending money just to get fucked up the asss by the intrusive DRM.
>If games in the future are all 100% always online/server authenticated/malwarespyware computer fucking programs, you have no one to blame but yourself.
And y'know what, I'd still be pirating my games, because for every suit who thinks his shit is uncrackable, there are dozens of unpaid programmers who have nothing better to do than to crack DRM and distribute (better) copies of video games for free.

>>377293764
Cheap for you might not be cheap for everyone.
Hell, these days with everything being tied to accounts and shit it's probably less risk-free as well.

>>377293929
You can't prove it isn't so.

>>377293929
no need to source, if you think not even one of these people exist I have nothing to say to you.

>>377293923
>Not how the world works.
It's incredibly ironic that you'd seriously believe this while calling others teenagers. No one gives a shit how much effort you put on your product if it's shit, anon. Not anyone. Maybe if your product was good enough to justify all those days months years you spent on it, you could have sold enough to get what you "deserve".

>>377293759
>50% of a massive budget from a massive corporation is more than devs would ever hope to have as a budget if they were self funded.
What's the point of having such a massive budget when most of it is going into marketing?

>>377294000
First of all, you pay only $60 for a product that cost MILLIONS to make. That is a fucking FRACTION of what it cost the developer to make the game. In other words, you're fucking stupid.
>hurr durr but making legal purchases is risky
How? Why in the fuck would doing legal things be risky in any way? Are you retarded? Oh wait.

>>377293759
Why the fuck should i care again? I like videogames, i don't give a single fuck about publishers and their woes because they are more often than not detrimental to the videogames part of videogames.

Any game would be better if 100% of budget would be spent on the actual game. And some games would absolutely be better independent, because big publisher money comes with suits wanting to ram up shit up your ass to get better figures regardless of how bad that would affect game itself.

>>377294016
you have to prove the affirmative claim
>>377294020
>at least one instance of the claim means it's a big deal

>>377293951
>Do you realize that in today's industry, you can sell millions of copies yet still be considered "performing below average?"
This. Big publishers don't consider a 10% return on investment a success, that's a dismal failure where heads will roll. It doesn't matter that you made the company ten million if they had to spend one hundred million to make and market the game. They want blockbuster hits that will spawn even bigger sequels, and when they don't go huge they get shelved. See Mass Effect for the most recent example.

>>377294107
You're honestly brain-damaged if you think development costs being greater than sales price = the sales price being cheap.

>>377294180
Oh, look. An ad hominem. Isn't that a kick in the shins?

Not an argument, faggot.

>>377293912
No it doesn't. Fucking why would it happen? You've got the game and you're going to pay for it later out of some ethical obligation? Yeah bullshit, pull the other one.

But I'm not really against piracy either. 95% of people who pirate are third-world niggers/snow-niggers, kids or NEETS. None of those demographics were going to spend a cent anyway, they're not lost sales and they don't matter.

If companies want to weather their tantrums to stop that 5% of "I pirate even though I've got shitloads of expendable income because it's easy and I don't give a shit", that's their choice. I'm sure /v/ has room for hundreds more cyclical threads like these.

Do whatever the fuck you want to too, I don't care. But you're not fooling anyone with these intellectually dishonest, anecdotal justifications.

Why would you even want to play some crap like Andromeda, anyway. Don't you have a backlog to get to?

>>377294127
whether its a "big deal" or not is not the issue. Its the principle.

Something that can be used this way that cannot be kept track of cannot be defended.

>>377291680

How do you even put this much time into DA2?

I think I had 40 hours in it and I was done with everything and the DLC