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What was even the point of ouroboros in Cold Steel?
Unlike their role in tje earliee games it felt much more tacked on.
Will the 3rd game fix this?
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>>377281453
It's all about muh Phantasmal Blaze plan
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>>377281453
Will the Calvard game fix this?
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>yfw Big "Dick" Richard has 200CP
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>>377281453
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>>377281453
>you open door
>see this

what do?
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>>377283331
bend over for daddy
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>tfw you will never know who the fuck all these fucking CS characters that fucking overwhelm all fucking discussion in every fucking thread are
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>>377284421
calm down.

CS is coming to PC this summer
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>>377284421
CS is out for PS3 and Vita and is coming out for PC in the next month or two. It's also been on sale numerous times on the PSN.

If anything, get more annoyed at the Crossbell characters overwhelming the discussion when only a minority of players in these threads have even played it.
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Reminder that rean is not gay, and tells it as it is.
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>>377285307
Why is Alfin such a shit?
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She's a lying little shit right?
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>>377285307
Isn't that way gay people in denial always say in fiction? The entire "have I mentioned I'm a heterosexual being?" only for them to fall into gayness at the end of the game?
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>>377286020
No.
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>>377283005
I'm surprised they don't spend more time fighting each other since all of them seem to love the idea of it so much.
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>>377285764
Yes she is. She was too busy getting fucked in all her holes to get a doctorate.
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>>377286387
Well Duvalie fought Loewe a hundred times, apparently.
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Josette > Kloe > Estelle
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>>377288942
kys Josettefag
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>>377289246
Why would you want Joshua to kill himself? That's rude, you know.
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>>377289453
>That scene where Kloe asks "If you had met me before her..."
>She was talking about Josette
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where the fuck is star door 13?
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>>377289453
Better than Estelle at looking after people. Learn to understand context.
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>>377289673
Remember when you were heading through the ship and there was that path that leads up and the path that leads straight down and you went down thinking "I'll come back up and explore that bit later." and then you bumped into Gilbert.
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>want Anelace's sword
>can't just skip directly to the fight in her Star Door
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>>377290228
Just hold down B or whatever you have 'Cancel' mapped to. It skips dialog boxes almost instantaneously when you hold it down.
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>>377290228
For this reason I feel like 3rd would suck to replay.
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>the door requires to win 400 battles
>only won 230
Welp, I guess I'm skipping this one.
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>>377290562
I had already cleared that goal when I found that door.
Also it's worth it for what's inside that door + final door.
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>>377290562
I had 360 by the time I got to it. I just grinded all my characters up to 120ish.

I learned my lesson after Skies of Arcadia to stop running from battles. I had to GRIND battles to get my Pirate rank up.
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I just saw Star Door 2. Why is the Salt Pale Research Report signed by Ries Argent? Doesnt make any sense.
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>>377288942
Schera > everyone
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>>377290992
She's compiling a report.
What doesn't make sense?
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>>377291105
Why would someone who had been in Gralsritter so little time compile report about something that important? Not to mention the whole incident happened long before she even joined church.
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>>377289453
Fixed for easier baiting.
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>>377291241
Probably because filing reports is tedious busywork likely to get pushed onto new recruits. Ries is authorised to handle sensitive information. It's also not the only report likely to have ever been made on North Ambria, just an update on the situation.
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>>377289805
that idiot
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>>377291241
>>377290992
Well, she WAS assigned to work with kevin, and the report does bring out something very important kevin developed and used, that she will have to keep in mind.
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>>377288942
Not with that shitty art line
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>>377290491
the amount of cutscene in this game is absurd
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>>377285364
>Alfin
>a shit
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>>377294282
It's still paced better than Persona 5 though.
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So after finishing 3rd should I just jump to Cold Steel or wait for English translations of Zero/Ao?
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>>377294430
nobody ever suggests nayuta.
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>>377281453
>What was even the point of ouroboros in Cold Steel?
To establish their rivals for power!
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>Falcom reports they have only 230 pre-orders for the Ys VIII limited edition left. At its current rate, it'll be sold out tomorrow morning.
How much it will sell?
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>>377281453
To be punching bags for Rean "Coldsteel" Schwarzer and his band of dick riders, class seven.
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>>377294745
Because it's a spin-off that feels more like an Ys game due to its action-oriented nature (or a spiritual sequel to Zwei, from what I understand). It takes a while to unlock all the abilities and make the gameplay more fun while the story is quite cliched and not interesting enough to warrant such a big focus on it. It's not a bad game but it's pretty mediocre and doesn't justify having Kiseki in its title.

That said, the OST is still great and has one of my favorite final boss themes by Falcom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDOKYZORmME
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>>377296308
Why would Falcom be reporting that?
Also I ordered it because I need book ends.
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>tfw listening to Silver Will on youtube
>related video spoils who Schwarzritter is
FUCK
But I had a sinking suspicion he was Loewe ever since I watched the Evo opening
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>>377296817
If you think that's bad wait until you find out that The Lord of Phantasma is Rufina. What were you expecting a joke spoiler?
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>>377296817
Could you not tell who the Schwarzritter was just looking at his portrait?
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>>377296817
>related video spoils who Schwarzritter is
Julia Schwarz, Rean Schwarzer, and Schwarzritter
All the same person
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>>377297606
Come to think of it, shouldn't Altina be way stronger than the other two? Did she get a factory reset when they handed her off to Rean?
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>>377297702
She's holding back or they revised the ARCUS system so everyone got a stat reset.
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can you speed up the fights in this game?
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>>377281453
>What was even the point of ouroboros in Cold Steel?

to show that Osbourne can even outsmart them.
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>>377297816
Speed hack with the cheat engine
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>>377297781
>revised the ARCUS system so everyone got a stat reset

this is probably it. Whoever is cranking these things out must be making a killing by not making them backward compatible.
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Why do Falcom's wilderness environments look so much worse than their towns?
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>>377281453
Shill, pls go.
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>>377297702
Come to think of it shouldn't Schera be way stronger than FC Josh/Estelle?
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>A former boss now has less hp than school kids
Maybe CS3 will have us skip the field studies and go straight into the good stuff.
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>>377298804
>shouldn't Schera be way stronger than FC Josh
No
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Hopefully with the amount of effort they are putting into cs3 it will be of sizable length and have less fluff. Especially if they are taking us back to school at the start for a bit
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>>377297982
>>377298048
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>>377297781
People keep forgetting party members are capable of holding back even when playable. Toval and Sharon spend the entire time they're with the party holding back, and Sara is almost as bad.
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>>377298048
>>377297982
I'm going to be a little annoyed if she's the only character who can do this.
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>>377299818
nice 2 frames
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She's really the one who was holding back, mfw i destroyed the final boss in 2 turns with her.
Vita vs Weissmann who would win?
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>>377299818
>Gunner puts more emphasis on her bust
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>>377300702
The power of the PS4
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>>377300832
PC will fix it.
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>>377302689
>he thinks CS3 will be released on PC
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>>377302904
Go shitpost somewhere else.
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>>377302904
>he thinks it won't be
Falcom has to make up the difference from losing Vita sales.
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>>377303096
They'll make up for it with the PS4 sales, no need to waste time and resources on the smallest and most irrelevant market
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Why the fuck is Kevin so adorable lads?
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>>377303420
PC has been relevant since before you were born kid.
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>>377298096
>Osbone outsmarted them
Crossbell archives already spoil the ending of Phantasmal Blaze Plan.
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>>377290491
>>377290419

Couldn't you press the escape key or something to skip entire scenes?
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>>377300626
At least Ash will be able to do it, since his character description states his weapon can transform.
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>>377303843
>he actually believes that
Alright alright, you keep believing that friendo
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>>377298838

Considering Rean's the teacher now, I wouldn't expect the school setting to be anything more than a backdrop for his continued heroics. I mean it's not like Sara did much in CS1.
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>>377304359
I don't mind being spoiled, so how does it end?
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>>377297737
>>377297802
Charge?
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>>377300712
Weissmann will fuck her hard dude
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I hope Falcom doesn't decide to spend 60 hours on fucking nothing again. This is starting to get ridiculous now.
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>>377303820
Cute green onion
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Man, why is Pantagruel the best stage in CS2 despite being nothing more than just a mostly cutscene based stage and a short corridor for the dungeon part?
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>>377296373
It also has a neat Pom plushie in the LE.
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>>377307485
CS3 is just the prologue to CS4. Falcom has decided to jew out all the following arcs to four games.
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>>377298276
The orbments in Sky were Epstein, the CS ones are Reinford, what company made Enigma? Epstein as well?
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>>377308341
Talking to villains casually is one of my favorite tropes
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>>377308341
Too bad it's ruined by that Rean shreking out scene.
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>>377308727
The hell is Sharon doing there?
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>>377289620
>"If you had me me before her..."
...then he probably would have killed you.
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>>377308578
>Reinfords nerfed the gameplay
Fucking Reinfords, no wonder Alisa is so shit.
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>>377308578
I believe Tio explains in the prologue that it was also Espestein foundation.
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>>377308901
Because she's one of them too?
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>>377308364
>>377307734

The real reason Kevin avoided Ries for five years is because he knows he looks like food. He's afraid she'll eat him.
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>>377309054
B-but they're better optimised for combat, Rixia said so herself!
>>377309084
Man, Epstein really is the Anaheim Electronics of the Zemurian continent, isn't it.
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>>377309142
All of the characters here were involved in the Aureole plan and appeared in Sky.
Except Sharon.
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STRIKE, UNHOLY SPEARS OF TIME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3rlLgH2KSo
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>>377306813
But that doesn't create superhumans
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>>377281453
I never beat the final boss of FC.
How do I do it?
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>>377309164
But what if the actual real reason was that he wanted to eat her?
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>>377307485
I'm guessing CS3 will be what SC was to FC. They just decided to drag out the prologue for 2 games. Then we will get Cold Steel the 4th.
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>>377309646
Earth Wall. The fight is easy.
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>>377309702
B-but they're both devoted to church
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>>377309921
Ries is dedicated to food and Kevin is a recovering edgelord. Neither of them has what it takes to be fully dedicated to church.
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>>377309921
They can be both devoted to Aidios and to each other.

It's not sacrilegious, is it?
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I want to kiss Ash!
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>>377310230
>>377310375
As if Ein is going to allow that
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>>377309646
>Normal
Hit him until he dies
>Hard
Hit him until he dies
>Nightmare
Keep earth wall up and hit him until he dies
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>>377309646
Take Olivier and Kloe with you cause Phys sucks balls in FC
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>>377310472
>Implying Ein won't take Kevin by force
I mean look at her she definitely would wear the pants.
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Best door?
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>>377302904
pretty sure It will with cs1 + 2 coming on pc.
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>>377310835
14,15 and the one about the Salt Pale were probably some of my favorites.
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>>377310835
Paradise.
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>>377309646
Magic is the way to go.
Even the mages can match attack power with the 'physical powerhouses.'
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>>377310764
Doesn't she already have Toval for that?
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>>377309646
spam magic and earth wall
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>>377310835
Return to the Empire, Paradise, Salt Pale, Estelle and Joshua's
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>>377309702
But anon, she was still a child when he left!
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>>377310461
I can't wait for him to bully Rean!
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>>377311796
So now you know the real reason for his intense self-hatred.
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>>377296817

Leaving before spoilers bye
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>>377297982
>>377298048
Oh, it's neat that it doesn't take up a turn. I was afraid it would.

>>377298116
>>377298543
>>377298587
Why do they not use up CP for these?
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>>377310461
So whos this guy?
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Name a better video romance

Protip: you can't because one doesn't exist
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>>377313045
They realised Geis was a cool guy and ported him in
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>>377313238
Is it a new character in CS3 then?
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>>377298587
>>377298543
Did Rean go into the fire school for the 8 Leaves style?
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>>377313210
Pietro and Narcia are way better.

I do agree that these two are up there though.
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>>377313370
Yeah. Some dude who apparently butts heads with Randy a lot. Tries to follow his style by using a halberd apparently.
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>>377298543
>>377298587
Hey, I am Rean from da future.
YOU WILL NEVER SEE IT COMING DO YA?
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>>377313635
Sept-terrion of time would need to be involved for that, right?
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>>377313423
Fire was always his gimmick when you think about it so I guess. Next we'll see Termination Slash - Blaze?
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>>377313587
I really don't like falcoms new "muscle" characters. They're just lame fuccbois.

I hope Calvard game has Zin
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>>377313806
To be fair, he is supposed to a delinquent type, so his look makes sense.
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>>377313635
I'd be convinced if the sword he summoned was a tachi.
He seems pretty particular with that.
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>>377313806
>I hope Calvard game has Zin
Calvard will definitely have Zin at some point.
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>>377313009
>Why do they not use up CP for these?
It's clearly an early build that doesn't work properly and is used to show the power of PS4.
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>>377313957
That's the ruse, his sword not being a tachi is a way he holds back even more!
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>>377313870
I get the point of his design, thats not really what bothers me though. Its the fact that we haven't had someone like Zin or Dogi since Trails in the sky arc.

What we get now is an Agate-style character with a different personality each game.

Also this is just my personal preferance but I really liked it when the party consisted of a mix of old-middle-young aged characters. When everyone is a teenager its kind of boring and bland usual jrpg fare.

Trails in the sky has one of my favorite casts of characters for that reason.
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>>377313423
He's always had fire in his repertoire. His S-Craft for crying out loud is called Flame Slash and the upgrade is Azure Flame Slash. Not to mention Flame Impact and his secondary orbment, other than Time, is Fire.
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>>377298336
>>377298226
Did rean's max HP just double from the bottom picture to the top?
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>>377313635
DELET THIS
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>>377314349
How old is Lloyd anyway? He did mention he can drink alcohol or something.
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>>377314349
They're probably trying for something different in this one i guess. Plus the environment allows or mostly teenagers to be a thing, especially considering the purpose of the class.
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>>377314539
Lloyd and Elie are 18, Randy's 21 and Tio is 14.

>>377314349
Most of the sky characters are on the young side too, they're just over 18. Zin is the oldest member of the party right?
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>>377314539
Zero no kiseki's cast doesn't bother me much, the cast is varied enough. The whole blandness really started with CS and it kinda shifted to their other games, except Ys.
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>>377313210
I dunno why they made Rean and Elise have the same relationship as Estelle and Joshua with the entire "not blood siblings romance thing" except Rean never got Elise's attraction while Estelle finally figured out that she's in love with her little adopted brother Joshua.

Would this even be considered "adopted incest"?
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>>377309392
https://my.mixtape.moe/npbqtb.mp3
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>>377313635
More like Rean from yaoi manga.
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>>377315121
*teleports behind u*
>I HOLD IN MY HAND THE CHALICE OF HEAVEN
Nothin personel kid....
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>>377313635
So you're telling me Mcburn couldn't even remember who his old self was or if he was mixed or not?

Or not really care about Crow?
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>>377315121
Just doesn't feel the same without the Crimson stigma playing in the background.
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>>377314676
>Most of the sky characters are on the young side too, they're just over 18. Zin is the oldest member of the party right?

Probably? Is he older than Onion Richard?
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>>377315231
>May it's holiest of light adorn your fresh with this pear
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>>377294927
What is his end game
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>>377314676
Zin is the oldest, but you had people like Schera, Agate, Kevin, Olivier, etc. who were a bit older than joshua/estelle. And then you had Tita.

Julia and Mueller were also a plus.
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>>377314676
Schera is 23, Agate is 24 I think, Olivier is 25 and Zin is 30. It was nice having half the cast past their teens.
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>>377314676
Actually Richard is the oldest, he's 35 in the 3rd. Kevin and Schera are on the younger side (22 and 23 respectively) but Agate is 25 and Olivier, Julia, Mueller, Zin and as mentioned Richard are all over 25 by the time of the 3rd.

Even if you disregard the 3rd, that still leaves Zin, Olivier, Schera, Agate and Kevin as adults in the first two games. It's pretty evenly divided.
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Is edgelord Kevin gone for good after 3rd?
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>>377315551
>35

He doesn't look 35 at all. Are you sure that's right?
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>>377315424
It seems he's interested in taking over ouroboros' phantasmal blaze plan, whatever that is. Maybe he's trying to become a god or something who knows
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Gonna be starting an NG nightmare run of FC any advice besides spam earth wall? I also already know how to farm shining poms and plan to abuse that as well.
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>>377315424
MEGA, also Lechter is his mole in Ouroboros, giving him information
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>>377315598
He shows up again in Ao no kiseki, along with Ries.
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>>377314857
>Joshua the little brother
Stop posting Estelle, you will never be the big sis. Joshua is 8 months older and acts 10 years older.
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>>377314459
I mean he's finally starting to specialize in his own 8 Style, kind of like how Arios was wind.
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>>377315721
Still edgy?
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>>377315774
Oh, you mean his attitude. If so, no, i think he got over it.
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>>377315774
Nope
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As clouds fall Sakura blooms
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>>377315672
Just enjoy the butt rape and try not to kill yourself.
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>>377315640
>judging age by appearance
Don Capua is only fucking 30 and he looks 50-60.
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what the fuck man I just want to play games, not contemplate my life
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>>377315908
Fallen warrior gather in the evening bloom
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>>377315640
You can check for yourself from the 3rd evo page

http://www.sora-evo-3rd.com/character/character7.html
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>>377315735
>Bugs of Legend caught by Joshua: 0
>Bugs of Legend caught by Estelle: 1

The numbers don't lie.
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>>377315917
Kek I know its unbalanced but I needed a challenge while I re-run the game for missed achievements.
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>>377315992
AND I PRESENT TO YOU YOUR DOOM

Seriously he sounds so fucking smug when he says that
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>>377316142
Considering the sheer amount of damage it does he has every right to
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>>377316078
Still not impressed.
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>>377316142
>>377315992
>>377315908
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>>377315992
wasnt it evening gloom?
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>>377315762
Wasn't his specialty Autumn Leaf Cutter/Momiji?
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>>377316251
Ouka Zangetsu!
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>>377316290
https://my.mixtape.moe/exvsds.mp3
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>Rean is probably going to be the Divine Blade of Fire
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>>377314349
For me, it was less age and instead roles. Sky had a good mix of character roles better than you, equal with you, and lesser than you. Different from CS where it often feels that your MC is the best and the rest of the party members often look up to him.
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>>377316480
I definitely still hear gloom. I could be crazy.
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>>377316352
Is Ouka Zangetsu the Morning Moon skill in CS where it's exclusively Rean's counterattack form in Divine Knight battles?
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>>377314719
Come to think of it. Ys artist/character designer is different to the ones they used for CS and Xanadu right?
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>>377315908
>>377315992
>Rhyming bloom with bloom

Lame.
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>>377316614
How is Xanadu anyway
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>>377316587
I can't remember.
Rean does use a different style in Valimar doesn't he? Where he keeps it sheathed and uses drawing attacks like Richard.
Maybe he does know Morning Moon.
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>>377316525
Age influences that a lot as well. older characters tend to take a more influential role while younger characters are more about growth. When everyone is young then...its pretty samey.
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>>377316192
>Lolis tamed by Joshua: 0
>Lolis tamed by Estelle: 2

All of the day, bro.
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>>377316758
Even within the same age group, characters like Rean and Jusis are easily more leadership role types compared to say Elliot or Fie.
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Everyone agrees that Adol's modern outfits are much better, right?
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>>377316349
Why ? It's his first skill but he shown more with the 2nd Form :Gale.
Even pushing it to the Arcane in his ogre form, when Autumn Leaf Cutter stay the same.
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>>377317009
You're kinda missing the point. I wasn't talking about leadership and more about experience.

The MC could be the strongest character in the story, but he can still get influenced by more experienced people, especially if the MC is young.
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>>377317337

Just give him his fucking shield back and I couldn't care less how they want to dress him up.
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>>377317337
>no shield

The overall outfit is "cooler" its practicality kills it for me tho.

Ys Seven had the best Adol design.
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>>377316905
Lolis saved from old men by Joshua: 1
Lolis saved from old men by Estelle: 0
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>>377317337
Ys Chronicles+ Adol is best Adol. The new approach to the character in general fucking sucks. He used to be a traditional warrior in heavy armor with sword and shield, and now it's been ditched in favor of a hip faggot who carries his sword in the most edgy and retarded way possible.
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>>377317716
Estelle wins again.
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>>377313587
Where are you getting this from when Randy hasn't even been officially announced yet?
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>>377317460
Even though everyone's around the same age, you can see that not everyone is at the same level skill wise or have the same experiences. A character doesn't necessarily have to be older to influence someone positively. Its good to have adults around to help the younger members out but there's something that a person around the same age group would pass on that an older person might not be able to convey.
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>>377298168
>the cut-ins use the models instead of 2D art
Why?
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>>377318119
I believe he was stated to have become some teacher by other anons no? They just haven't shown his design.
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DUDE OUR COLD STEEL DUB WAS THE FUCKING BEST AND THE PC CROWD WILL SURELY LOVE IT
LET'S RECORD AN ADDITIONAL 5000 LINES
SURELY NOTHING WILL GO WRONG
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>>377317420
I don't think there was supposed to be anything different with Autumn Leaf Cutter.

And besides, there's no way Rean can out Gale the Divine Blade of the Wind Arios.

Though I wonder what happens to Arios since he left the Guild. If he ever does rejoin it, does he go back to F-rank as punishment or does he get his A-Rank back?
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>>377318119
Someone looked up the official website's source directory and found randy's name amongst thors II staff.
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>>377318172
Because falcom is retarded. The dialogue boxes in cs should use 2d art too.
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>>377318172
Because they actually look good now.
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>>377318278
I thought they were just gonna voice what was left out.
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>>377316587
Yeah, Richard's S-Craft is Sakura Morning Moon.

I'm actually wondering now how many Crafts/S-Crafts are shared between Anelace/Richard/Rean. Arc Blade does look a lot like a simpler version of Piercing Wave.
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>>377316349
His specialty is either his arc slash (since he got true arc slash in CS2), or enlightened domination considering he declares it as 7th form of the 8 leaves one blade style.
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>>377318172
It's not S-craft.
2D art should be reserved for S-craft, here she perform a ...guardbreak ? then it's ok to have variety.
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>>377318119
Leak from the site.
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>>377318160
This is less apparent if evergibe is in the same age and supposedly class level.

The point is, its less varied.
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>>377317725
Yea well good luck surviving that shipwreck and procuring heavy armor on a friggin 'uninhibited' island.
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>>377317716

Oh yeah? Riddle me this then, wise boy! If Joshua is so great, why does he have the smaller stick?
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>>377286824
That spoiler sounds like the fastest route a grad student can take to getting their PhD
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>>377305931
Ao spoilers

Osborne gets defeated, Crossbell gains independence, but Ouroboros complete the Phantasmal Blaze Plan and move on to the next step of Orpheus.
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>>377318589
>here she perform a ...guardbreak
It's a 'Battle Order'. Guard Break is a turn bonus.
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>>377317337
Oldschool Adol
>relaxed heroic pose
>neutral/happy face
>sword and shield
>iconic white and red armor
>some excess belts but nothing too dramatic

NuAdol
>edgy pose
>snarling/cautious face
>no shield
>armor is a confusing mishmash of colors and designs
>amnesia-induced belt mania in Celceta, using a flattened converse as a sheath in 8
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>>377318560
Rean's specialties are the Void form (Enlightened Domination is probably the pinnacle of the form and it was what was referenced in the Drama CD where Rean becomes intermediate on the style) and the Autumn Leaf Cutter stuff which are draw techniques.

Didn't Papa Bright say that he masted both Helix and Void?
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>>377318760
>Implying he isnt playing 8d chess
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>>377318278
>>377318506
The lines were actually already recorded and intended to be used in the PS3 and Vita version, but Falcom wasn't willing to add the code to play those lines wherever Rean was also silent in the Japanese version. So the PC porting team are adding the code themselves and are just adding the previously unused voice lines.

So while XSEED are fronting the bill for the PC version, they're not really fronting the bill for all of the new lines.
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>>377318910
But autumn leaf cutter isn't a draw form, arc slash is. We've even seen rean specifically practise arc slash with a candle in CS1.
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>>377318736
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>>377309575
>weissman intelligence and thaumaturgy combined with hexen magic

It probably would create at least one
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>>377318278
The first game's dub was clumsy but the second game's dub was legit good.
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>>377319082
No, Hatsuu and other people close to XSeed specifically stated that they're recording them for the PC version. The dude who voices Rean also confirms that he was recalled for some voice work.
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>>377318910
I could have sworn his thing was the Fourth Form.

Though I guess Void would have been much better for him since even Sara does mention to him about the entire "For is emptiness and emptiness is form" thing when he accidentally cheats on his duel with Crow when he starts using ARCUS links on their final battle.
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>>377318791
>Armour
In Ys8 the guy literally had no clothes at first except for the sailor uniform when the ship crashed since he was working as a temporary sailor to get a free ride.
You should be thankful he he even gets something resembling an armour thanks to a certain best girl.
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>>377318602
>This is less apparent
Elliot might as well be a NPC compared to everyone else in CS1.
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>>377294745

because Nayuta is fucking boring
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>>377319258
I thought Arc Slash was a part of the Autumn Leaf form, same as Rean's first S-Craft which is what he was practicing.

>>377319356
According to the wiki, Auttum Leaf is the Forth Form, and the Seventh is Void, looks like he practices both and knows stuff from the others like Gale.
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>>377318982
Goodbye Zero/Ao localization.
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>>377318791
Adol only has a shield in one of those outfits though
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>>377318596
>Guys, we still have a teacher spot open for our new Erebonian soldier training school, anyone have any recommendations?
>How about this guy? It says here in his CV he's an unprofessionally behaving drunkard womanizer ex-jaeger ex-cop war machine with strong loyalty towards Crossbell
>Perfect.
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>you will never be Estelle
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>>377319261
Fuck off edgy loli you cried like a bitch at the end.
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>>377319412
I'm so butthurt about Dogi not being playable in 8. They gave the shittiest excuse ever for celceta, and in 8 you get a notDogi as playable instead.
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>>377319701
I like her zettai ryoiki
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>>377319412
What the fuck did they do to Dogi?
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>>377318534
Richard's Luminous Divider seems almost identical to Autumn Leaf Cutter in style.

Incidentally, now that I'm thinking about it, Rean's Gale seems hella similar to Cassius's AOE, Lightning strike or whatever it's called.
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>>377319424
You're not really getting the point.
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>>377317337

Seven Adol was best
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>>377318982
Did people really have high expectations? Its a game in an already niche franchise that requires you to invest 120+ hours in FC/SC before even playing.
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>>377319894
He looks fine outside of the hair. The Goatee does him good.
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>>377319920
7 had the best party. Outside of Aisha, she was shit. I wish we kept Sigroom instead.
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Is Cassius the strongest person in the series who doesn't have superhuman powers, artifacts, edgy mode or dark demon sword of darkness?
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>>377319412
Neat, I haven't really looked into it beyond the concept art and some screenshots. I think I saw that his iconic armor is back but as separate DLC or something?

But honestly Dogi in the pic you posted is much, much worse. I can get used to Adol's crappy clothes but what they did to Dogi should be criminal.

>>377319634
Pardon, I was thinking of in-game looks. The shieldless picture should be from Napishtim and he did have a shield in that game.

>>377319920
Correct.

Also
>that scene where he gets tortured and sent to solo a boss
Really got me hyped. I miss solo Adol a lot.
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>>377320115

Geis with those fairies from Napishtim was such a happy surprise for me
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>>377320204
Yun kafai and victor should be stronger than him currently, about on par with him if he still used a sword.
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>>377320240
>>that scene where he gets tortured and sent to solo a boss

and the absolute madman actually soloed it, it was glorious
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>>377320247
>Geis and Doinare supposed to be recurring characters
>Ladoc and his daughter as well
>make shitty notDogi's in every game after 7
>make up shitty excuses as to why Dogi is not there/not playable
>never show Geis again

Why?
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>>377319914
You said that you were talking about experience and I raised that even characters around the same age can have different backgrounds that offer wildly different experiences. Sure its not the same as Schera or Agate passing on the on the job experience to Estelle who's still learning but its not like Rean never gained something from interacting with his friends.

Besides, adults still play a role in Class VII's development since Claire, Toval, Sara and the others are still around.
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>>377319998
Not really, they expect it to sell what it does but more importantly drive more FC sales, which it will.
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>>377320204
Yes. He's also literally reached enlightenment. >>377320346
Cassius likely long surpassed his mentor, just as he did Dan, who taught him the staff.
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>>377320403

Because Celcetta and 8 happen before than Seven, chronologically. Seven happens 6 months after Napishtim, that's why Geis is there, he turned into Adol 2.0 and is having the time of his life going on adventures and shit.
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>>377320204
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>>377319701
Why did Renne change the color of her eyes, though?
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>>377320452
There is a huge difference between watching an adult influence a teenager and watching teenagers interact in a high school.

>adults influenced rean
That goes without a doubt, but the point is all of those are minor charcaters to the story.
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>>377320383
One of my favorite moments from the more recent Ys games no doubt.

>>377320403
I think the problem with Geis is that he's basically on Adol's level by now. Honestly at this point I'd prefer a solo Geis spin-off game than having him reluctantly tag along as Adol's follower again.
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How would Rean fair in a duel against Estelle?
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>>377318982
I knew it wouldn't take long before she started doing this shit. Next up, the multi-dip begging and Kiseki future honeydicking.
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>>377320721
Estelle wouldn't stand a chance.
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>>377320601

just the artist messing around
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>>377320579
>8 happens before Napishtism
I actually forgot about that before mentioning the Geis/Ladoc thing, thanks.

Still doesn't explain Dogi's abscence in Celceta and getting cucked by a 50yr old man in 8
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>>377320721
>*fare
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>>377319894
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>>377320809

well, it's not like they are married or anything, and letting Dogi go for a bit is good for Adol's image, since he always had this gay stigma over him for always be traveling around with a Bara guy.
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>>377319686
Randy is pretty much in charge of the class Ash in, which probably is a straight up combat class. That fits his skills at least. And I'm guessing they have Randy there to keep an eye on him, Lloyd did mention that Erebonian officials shattered SSS to keep an eye on them and went specifically for Randy first.
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>TFW managed to get good equipment from different mobs 3 times in a row

I really wish mobs could drop more than one item per kill so this headache inducing farm didn't have to exist.
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>>377320783
>Estelle wouldn't stand a chance.
>can literally use one of Cassius' ultimate moves by Zero/Ao

Normal mode Rean would probably be beaten. He would need devil trigger mode to win
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>>377321032
I figure Randy is there to spy on things too.
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>>377321095
Rean will just spam Arc Slash at her and delay Estelle to death.
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>>377319701
>Joshua is banging that every night
>Probably forced into wearing the maid outfit for some of them too
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>>377319298
Overall I agree, but there were a few CS2 lines that kinda fell flat. CS1 felt more consistent, but CS2 kinda varied in quality (but it was still a pretty good dub, better than the first).

>>377319901
You need to check out Arios is Ao, you can practically tell that he and Rean share moves.
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>>377320649
Sharon and Toval might be minor but Sara is far from a minor character in CS.
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why Cassius so weak?
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>>377319701
>>377320795

Experiments are fine, but I'm sure we can agree that Renne just isn't Renne without the creepy eyes.

>child clinging to your leg to keep you from leaving

It still amuses me every single time one of the kids tries that on me. Not as much once they start figuring out that there's strength in numbers though.
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>>377321026
>gay stigma
Who the fuck cares? People will always do that shipping crap. Theres no point other than not having Dogi be in the party every game, at which point I'd say just write him off, or develop him by bringing back older characters like Chesters sister
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>>377320795
>Nun Tita

Shit, something is awakening!
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>>377321550
It's the mustache.
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>>377321630
Please don't post *it*
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>>377321550
his plot armor is strongest, I don't think even McBurn can beat him.
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>>377321550
He was born holding back. Ragnard taught him how to stop doing that so now he's waiting for the best moment to unleash his true powers.
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>>377321550
Because if he was physically and mentally strongest, nothing would happen in the series
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>>377321550
I still don't get the whole argument about Sword X Staff.

At no point in the games does it state that he's in any way weaker for swapping to the staff. Anelace make makes it a point to talk about how swords and can be used to protect too, and even questions if Cassius thinks the staff is stronger than the sword, which he says is not the reason for swapping.

Just because he fights to protect instead of harming doesn't mean he can't do some serious damage with his staff. He freaking pummels the Reverie effortlessly in FC if you have the lowest possible bracer points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP4HajjMuxs
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>>377320737
It's her personal account. Don't get so triggered.
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Why are there so many wikis and which one do I use?
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Reminder that asking for Zero/Ao is triggering and you should stop right now.
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>>377318760

How's that independence working out for you, Crossbell? Oh wait, Osborne always wins, baby.
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>>377323252
I know she hears it a lot but she gets a bit too annoyed by it. It's a natural thing for anyone to ask and none of them know she's been asked a thousand times before.
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>>377323170
Kiseki wikia is the best one for lore and specific things, but it's often lacking in really basic information like character age.
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>>377323570
Ao literally tells you that Crossbell will gain independence in Sen3.
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>>377319686

Randy's probably there so they can introduce Shirley as a proper enforcer. Also Shirley's weapon is named Testarossa, just like the vermilion divine knight.
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>>377323573
Yeah. And it goes both ways, I'm a fan who never asks her about it but that doesn't mean I don't want it. So seeing her lash out like that is a bit disheartening. I do feel sorry for her but she should just take it as encouragement that people get so invested in the series that they become interested in the later entries as well.
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>>377323170
I end up using all 3 its spread out so much which wiki has articles on what.
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>>377317337

2 > 4 > 1 >>>> 3

2s stays true to 1s design while giving it a flat upgrade.

Nothing really wrong with 4 at all, although there's no way I'd recognize the character if I didn't know it was him already.

1 had to be simple because it was the 80s a overdone design would mean he'd look nothing like he did in game. Fine for it's time, but it can't hold up.

3s pretty poor. Although I would be more likely to guess that's Adol than 4.
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>>377324003
She just seems bad at handling stress but ultimately, as she says there, she keeps that sort of thing on her own account and not the company Twitter. She's just blowing off steam. Nothing wrong with her speaking her mind there.
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XSEED fucked up, they should port it to the Switch instead. That way they can catch the portable crowd that's still stinging from the loss of CS3.
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>>377317337
>Celceta art has a hoodie
>ingame it's a popped collar
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>>377324365
True enough, but she still has thousands of people following her so it's not like it's a completely private account. Plus she knows she has a lot of Kiseki fans following her so it shouldn't be a surprise when they react to what she's saying. But I do agree that she's free to vent, I just thought it was funny because every thread we get a bunch of people asking about Zero/Ao.
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>>377325172
We also have Calvard-anon in every thread too.
What about him?
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>>377324970
The only portable crowd stinging over the loss of CS3 is turbo autist's like /vitagen/ and they would NEVER buy a switch, those fuckers are hostile even to people who own PS4s.
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>>377325273
Someone like Calvard-anon would be directed at Falcom not xseed though.
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Im in Chapter 8, before you take the airship and shit

Other than opening the remaining doors, is there anything else i should do?
farm items? farm zepith? level up characters?
I understand i can farm easily zepiths and level up my characters in the abyss but im not quite sure

Also, where do i get the nightmare entrace to the arena? just found the hard one.

Also, the quiz minigame, does it grant anything else other than mira?
Also, the fishing game, is there any good rewardo i should be looking at?
Goddamn, so many questions.
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>>377302904
That's some nice backpedaling, sonyfag.
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>>377326226
Talk to celeste and you open the abyss and you can go play around in there for a bit.
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>>377326226
Quiz is worth doing to the end (maniac difficulty)
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>>377326226
Level everyone to 130ish, do a full run of the abyss at least once for Zemurian ore to make 4 ultimate weapons and door 15 is there.

>Also, where do i get the nightmare entrace to the arena? just found the hard one.
In the abyss

>Also, the quiz minigame, does it grant anything else other than mira?
Soul quartz which converts 3EP to CP per turn.

>Also, the fishing game, is there any good rewardo i should be looking at?
Not really the rewards are pretty trash but you need to finish at least the first round to unlock door 14.
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>>377316251
yoooooooooooooooo~
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If Zero doesn't come out today, I'm ending it.
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>>377327309
End what, your virginity?
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>>377327309
NO ANON DONT DO IT
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>>377327309
What did he mean by this?
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Where are the voicelines located?
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>>377326643
Do i have to open door 15 to open 14?
Celeste said that we need to do everything before going to the abyss because we cant go back and bla bla bla
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>>377328065
Yes you have to open every other doors and for multipart sun doors you need to complete at least the first part of the door.
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>>377296373
Everywhere else I hear some really positive opinions about Nayuta, even if if takes a bit to get going. The music's great and actual platforming in a Zwei!!-like seems fun, but it does seem like the story's fresh shit aside from comfy times in the hub.

>>377316614
IDK who did the character designs, but the Ys VIII illustrator's definitely not the same, or it's an older Falcom artist who hasn't done promo stuff in a while and their style's changed since.

>>377298482
All the wilderness detail went into Ys VIII where it matters far more.

>>377316703
Just kind of there unless you play on the new difficulty in eX+. I hear the story's lame as can be, but that's fine if Toxanadu's sequels steal all the blandness and guaranteed sales fodder from Cold Steel III and future Kiseki/Ys.

>>377321603
Of all the comments here, bringing Elena back is the one I'll vouch for most. She's got Genos's blood and could be a cool fighter. Dogi doesn't need to be in every party given his role in Seven was literally to point out the obvious in most scenes, hardly even playing straight-man to his friend who barely speaks.

Adol's popped collar in Ys VIII is pretty neat.

>>377320709
Me too, but a spin-off focusing on just Geis, the Danans, and whoever else he's run into has a low chance of being green-lit. It's in the realm of fan-fics until Falcom can manage their production cycle better.

>>377325115
It's all because Celceta was a rushed game, Kondo even admitted this in a Dengeki interview after launch. VIII got a lot of polish, and it's getting even more soon.

>>377318353
Falcom knows their promo illustrator sucks at 2D expressions.

>>377318982
Sounds like confirmation bias. No one expected it to sell much more than SC at launch.

>>377328065
You can return to The Abyss at any point before leaving on the Arseille. And yeah, Star Door 15's required to view 14.
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I think this review triggered Hatsuu since it mentioned Crossbell.

https://techraptor.net/content/trails-sky-3rd-review

I mean, what the fuck is the reviewer supposed to do? Completely ignore the connection the 3rd has to Crossbell and the rest of the series?
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Would you heed Rean's call /v/?
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>>377285764
No, Renne doesn't tell lies that often considering her position. That particular part is foreshadowing Zero.
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>>377328369
>>377328351
i dont know if im retarded or what but i dont quite get it

The abyss is the place you go after you take the airship right? the final dungeon?
or the abyss it's just other stuff before taking the airship, some kind of secret dungeon?
I feel retarded
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>>377328369
Better than just having him be there just because he's Adol's best friend. It makes little sense given their bond that he wouldn't help Adol save the world despite being in the same situation and place as him. So just write him off, he got married and went to live his life or something.
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>>377328537
If its this review she's over reacting like fucking crazy. The only mention of Crossbell is that the sort is sort of a prologue to it and "especially with the Quartz system that Trails in the Sky (and by extension, Zero and Ao no Kiseki) employs."

2 small mentions of it but nothing like CROSSBELL WHEN
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>>377325324
I played CS1 and CS2 on the PS3 and Vita.

It runs at like 5 fps on the vita at the infernal palace.

They made a good choice to ditch the Vita.
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>>377328696
Talk to Celeste and she will open it up as a location to teleport to in the 7th plane.
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>>377328795
>bros getting girls in nu-falcom era
In your dreams
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>>377328549
Only if he's redeemed in CS3
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>>377328891
She's probably reacting to the summary.
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>>377328369
They should just make an Ys Origin-like game where you play as Adol/Dogi/Geis/new girl/a few other characters solo exploring the same areas in different order.
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>>377328696
>>377328948
To add to this the airship is the point of no return. Don't take it until you've finished everything else.
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Are there any other movies in the game than in the intro? They don't work for me so I had to disable them
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>>377328956
It doesn't have to be elena, just make it some off-screen girl.

Or, as much as it would suck, kill him off as some motivation for Adol doing something out of revenge
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>>377329061
There is one in door 14

Thats an extended version of the Liber Ark destruction

Two at the very end and the ending. Only 5 in total.
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>>377318216
Randy's not gonna get redesigned like Agate, is he? I hope not, his design is excellent.
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>>377328537
Who is this and why is she such a huge deal?
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>>377329724
She's XSEED's resident Trails/Kiseki fanatic. She used to post on /jrpgg/ as xseeddude.
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>>377329268
Revenge Adol would be weird, and the villain would have to be really unique/powerful by series standards such that it killing Dogi would have impact. Granted, going after Dogi and not Adol is questionable on principle.

>>377329026
That would be great. Dogi had his own flip-phone game set in Romn back around 2004, too, and I think he could have a more unique fighting style.

>>377329691
Agate's design isn't a huge departure, it's just the promo illustrator who can't draw his damn face. IDK about Randy's illustration, but he's certainly going to look different and wear a Thors II uniform.

>>377329724
She's the editor at XSEED working on the Trails series. And she's frequently peeved by people asking for Crossbell when a new Trails game is right in front (and 3rd's worth playing for sure). Looks like she's recovering from crunch, too (Sara's doing most fixes for 3rd right now).

>>377329919
IIRC she posted very little there, and very infrequently, more or less as a fly on the wall. This was before /jrpgg/ fell into utter chaos.
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>>377329691
If he's going to teach, he's going to get some fancy black and white instructor's uniform.
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>>377327830
They're in ED6_DT28.dat for the Japanese voices (also contains sound effects) and in ED6_DT38.dat for the English voices.
If you downloaded the Japanese voice pack, the Japanese voices are easier to extract from ED6_DT37.dat as it has only voices, no sound effects.
Use falcnvrt to extract the .dats to .ogg files.
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>>377330048
She posted there enough that some autist came to her work with a bouquet.
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>>377330048
>and wear a Thors II uniform.
RIP, they ruined Randy's design.
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>>377329724
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>>377330282
How should I know how it looks? Rean's made some adjustments, but he's leader of new Class VII.
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>>377329691
It's been less than 2 years since Crossbell and Randy is a grown man. Besides a teacher uniform I don't think he'll see much change. Agate was last seen 4 years ago and he's done a lot of mental maturing that was sparked back in SC so a different, less wild look is thematically fitting.
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/v/, what did he mean by this statement?
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>>377330374
Just saying school uniforms are shit.
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This is your party for the evening.
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>>377330416
One in the dark one in the light

This is the last time they spoke as friends
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>Be Rean
>Be dumbass weak kid just starting off
>Eventually get stronger and finally become someone who is noteworthy
>Still get stuck teaming up with dumbass weak kids all the time
>Will never, ever be taken seriously in terms of power level
Is Rean just meant to suffer forever?
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>>377328537
Huh, I didn't know there were reviewers out there that actually gave a shit about kiseki.
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>>377330048
Agate lost too many of his defining features, like the sideburns, bandana and the mullet.
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>>377330632
>Altina linked with Rean
everything is alright
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>>377330869
>Rean
>noteworthy
Rean is a jobber, he's literally weaker than a random cop without his Devil Trigger or Gundam

Basically the only reason he wins anything notable is because of powers he didn't earn
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>>377330869
Rean literally picked being stuck with Thors 2 kids himself. Osborne wanted to keep using him as the Ashen Chevalier but Rean refused.
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>>377328537
Who gives a fuck? If you didn't read her twitter then you would never know or care that it bothered her

why the fuck does /v/ constantly go digging around for shit to bitch and moan about? Just fuck off nigger nobody cares
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>>377330945
At least he still has the necklace
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>>377328369
>Everywhere else I hear some really positive opinions about Nayuta, even if if takes a bit to get going.
Don't get me wrong, I did mostly enjoy playing it, but the beginning of the story dragged on way too much and you only get the coolest abilities later on in the game so the gameplay was also kind of meh for too long.

>The music's great and actual platforming in a Zwei!!-like seems fun
Both true.

>but it does seem like the story's fresh shit aside from comfy times in the hub.
Which is strange because there's a lot of dialogue for everyone as per usual for a Kiseki game. It also doesn't help that the game ends really abruptly, after finishing I actually had to double check to make sure I hadn't missed something because I couldn't believe that was it.

Imo they should have either cut down the story and focused more on the gameplay/action elements, or written a better story. Right now it's a weak amalgamation of both so it doesn't have a chance to shine in either aspect. That said, it's still worth a playthrough if you like Falcom's games.
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>>377331189
Remember that folks from this site were autistic enough to stalk her at her work. This is smalltime compared to that.
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>New Kiseki comes out, you play as Ouroboros
>Instead of Experience points, you have Holding Back Points
>The later you are in the game, the harder it becomes.
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>>377330959
To be fair, Rean did acknowledge that he did cheat in his fight against Crow with him using ARCUS links.

Only for Rean to turn it around and basically go "your feelings became a part of me too Crow".
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Will holding back be included as an official discipline at the 2020 Tokyo olympics?
I expect Japan to sweep this category, they're on home turf and have a large head start on all other competing countries.
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>>377330956
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STOP mocking holding back y'all, it takes some serious skill to master your abilities to a degree where you can control exactly how much you want to use them. You should praise every character that has mastered holding back to such a wonderful degree. You dolts.
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>>377330956
Yes, keep the two worst characters from shitting up anyone else, as it should be.
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>>377331372
>Estelle and Joshua reappear
>ARCUS users comment that they're pretty damn good at using battle links
>look at their feet
>there is no ring and line
>N-NANI???
>they don't even have ARCUS
>it's just the power of the greatest love story ever told
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B's enforcer number is 10 (X), So this implies that the theory about Con Artist X is the correct one right?
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>>377330956
Jusis and Millium linked up screenshots when?
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What's it going to take to make you stop holding back?
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>>377331972
In the quiz minigame it's revealed.
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Why was this so much hype /v/?
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>>377330191
I bet she still lurks or posts anonymously here.
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>>377332078
If only the divine knight battles didn't end up being such slugfests. Hopefully they'll improve for CSIII
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>>377331319
What was the full story behind that anyway? I know it happened but I don't know the complete details.
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>>377332078
Honestly the absolute worst finale to any kiseki game.
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>>377332237
Yeah that's true.
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>>377332078
Entire Infernal Castle was lame as shit, except when Olivier and Toval team up. The Crossbell part is the true good part of CS2.
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>>377331675
How many sexual harassment jokes is Altina going to make?
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>>377332337
t. assblasted nipfag

nobody who plays the english version liked or gave a fuck about that stupid sewer dungeon
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>>377332306
What, the fact that Rean fails to save Crow? Why is Rean worst protagonist anyway?

Estelle manages to bring back Joshua.
Kevin manages to save Ries at Gehenna and rename himself Thousand Arms Guardian.
Lloyd manages to bring back KeA with him.

Yet Rean failed to do what other Trails protagonists did.
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>>377332481
t. faggot
I liked the Divertissement when I played it in English, Lloyd isn't a little bitch like Rean from what little we saw of him and there was an actual semblance of challenge.
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>>377332450
She'll be a one note character that does nothing but talk about sexual harassment. The Gaius of sekuhara.
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>>377332509
Because he's too busy being a whiny emo git.
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>>377332450

As many as it takes to make everyone else avoid Rean so she can have him for herself.
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>>377332567
Only because we all saw post-Ao Lloyd without the struggles that he had.
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>>377332450
Considering her character exists solely for loli fanservice that's probably all she'll do just like CS2.
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>>377332643
I looked up Zero spoilers after that and he isn't much different in it, his main conflict is not wanting to be put on the SSS at first because he wants to investigate what happened to his brother.
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>>377332663
But she's fully clothed now unlike CS2 alongside a nice hat.
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>>377330290
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>>377332812
Fully clothed in a boring school uniform (oh boy I sure love those for the thousandth time) and still only exists for loli pandering
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>>377332078
>no Jusis mech and Laura mech
It's trash.
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>>377332509
Saving Crow was impossible in the first place. Even if Rean were to bring him back, he'd be executed on the spot for terrorism and attempted assassination of political figurehead.
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>>377332631
I want to see Altina sexually harass Rean with everyone misunderstanding.
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>>377332923
Nah, they'd just smuggle him away to another country where he'd be heralded as a hero.
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Rean: Since when are police detectives so good at fighting?
Lloyd: Says the high school student.

I cannot wait for the banter when both show up together in CS3.
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>>377333004
he can't graduate Thors with Class VII in another country.
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>>377333131
But Thors is a military academy.
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>>377333131
Who was right here?
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>>377333341
Lloyd? He's not a lap dog for Osborne. That's an easy no-brainer.
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>>377330856
Why was Laura such a bitch in Falcom Gakuen?
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STOP FUCKING DISCUSSING COLD STEEL. It's not on PC yet and no one cares about you consolefags. The majority of people haven't played it so don't spoil stuff.
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>>377333320
Didn't feel like it with all the generic japanese high school shit going on. Should've been more like in Muvluv.
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>>377333341
Lloyd. Rean is a fuccboi for Osborne.
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Reminder that Osbourne did absolutely nothing wrong
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>>377333341
>defender of peace, love and justice VS destroyer of lives and dreams
Hmmmmmm....
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>>377333520
Sounds like you should find some other thread to post in then.
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>>377333506
Why was Laura so nonexistent in CS2? I don't even remember her arc, if she even had one.
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>>377333520
Thanks, I was running low on bait.
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>>377333520
You can emulate it on RPCS3 RIGHT NOW.
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>>377333950
Is it actually playable or is it 3 fps with constant bugs
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>>377333341
>lapdog of Bismarkhitler vs. a policeman fighting off an invasion force
hmmm...
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>>377321418
And Toval does at least go out of his way to offer Rean actual good life advice and headpats on multiple occasions, which is more than you can say for the other adults in the story.
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hmmmm
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>>377331941
>they get ARCUS
>their connection gets so strong they physically become one like one of those DBZ fusions
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>>377333836
>Majority of the fanbase haven't even played it
>All of these people should leave so we can jerk off how cool we are that we got to play CS first
You're no different from elitist JOPfags. Either way kill yourself, sonybro. It's no wonder you are the most hated fanbase

>>377333882
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>377333950
RPCS3 is shit and I'd rather support devs. Hopefully they bring CS3 day 1 with the Shitstation 4 version to the west.
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>>377334078
Of course it's unplayable. PS2 emulation is still virtually unplayable, so of course PS3 emulation is shit. Better off going to some other threads and ignoring these ones. Why you would even come here if you're missing half the games is beyond me to begin with.
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>>377334078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3QyryYzyOs

Some mild issues with shadows, but otherwise 100% playable.
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Will he still be able to do this in CS3 /v/?
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>>377334147
Toval was too good for CS2. Sasuga Sugita character.
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>>377334273
That prologue does not make me hopeful for the game.
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>>377334232
>Majority of the fanbase haven't even played it
Considering Cold Steel 1 and 2 on vita/PS3 sold better than Sky SC and 3rd on PC, that's hardly the case.

If Cold Steel succeeds on PC, it won't be because of the Trails fanbase. It will be because of new players who never played the Sky games. Those 30,000 PC players of SC are not going to be the difference makers for the cold steel port.
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>>377334237
>PS2 emulation is still virtually unplayable,
What's it like living in 2008?
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>>377333862
She had one with Duvalie's obsession with kicking the shit out of inferior Arseid school with Laura going "what the fuck is this bitch going on about?"
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>>377334237
>2/5 = 1/2
Americans everyone
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>>377334275
Why wouldn't he? The punished Rean meme has already been debunked as nothing but Reanfag fanfiction as Rean is still the same corny faggot he always was.
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>>377333341
>>377333464
>>377333587
>>377333764
>>377334127
I inquire that each of you buy the next issue of The Imperial Chronicle™ to blindly follow my propaganda, I mean my wonderful wisdom and judgement of my iron fist!
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>>377334364
I personally wouldn't play it that way (not like the constant framedrops on Vita were any better, though), but it's technically playable. In the sense that someone apparently went through both games on the damn emulator.
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>>377331184
It's kind of sad that being a teacher was the only way he could escape being used in more wars.
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>>377332016
Too fucking much, Eizen.
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>>377334626
Why doesn't he just say "no thanks I don't want to fight anymore"? I thought Osborne was a benevolent leader who loved his people, surely he wouldn't pressure his own son in contributing to a war of peace?
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>>377334448
Not everyone wasted 4,000 bucks on a top-of-the-line machine. My system can run any new game designed for PC perfectly fine, but last time I tried running a PS2 emulator, it was utter shite.
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>>377334830
Nigger a fucking Athlon can emulate 90% of PS2 games without issues.
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>>377334830
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About to enter the final dungeon, playing on Normal. How long is it? I'd like to complete it in a single sitting and I still have a couple of hours tonight, doable?
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>>377334275
Yes, he is now a teacher so he has even more chances to do it. Hell they even added more little girls (and Towa) to make sure the headpats happen.
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>>377334968
There are 5 games currently released in this series in english dude, and they all have final dungeons. You're going to have to be way more specific.
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>>377334830
I made this image back when I emulated all the PS2 SMT games on a laptop from 2009
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>>377334807
Sadly you are mistaken there.
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>>377334968
Yeah if you don't stop an farm anything you can easily do it in an hour or so. Its not all that long.
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>>377334830
You are using PCSX2 right? And a recent dev build, not a shitty outdated one from like 8 year ago? I mean it's possible you tried emulating one of the few games which don't play nice with the emulator but come on.
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>>377334552
>be Osbrone
>fix that shithole known as Jurai
>some autistic ungrateful kid kills you as "revenge" for god knows what
Saving Jurai was a mistake, should've nuked it instead.
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Boy oh boy Rean.
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>>377334452
>this is what falcom thinks is a decent character arc
Why the fuck do people praise these hacks?
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>>377334203
There's another one that goes "Perhaps the one that's really empty is the one checking all these chests twice". Really made my orbment activate.
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Osbourne just oozes designated villain in Oliviers star door
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>>377335651
Remember that time Osborne shows up in Crossbell and gives Lloyd a friendly speech about politely settling conflicts?
Oh... hahahahaha.....
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>>377335778
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>>377335483
Nobody has ever said Laura has anything even resembling a good character arc.
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>>377335651
Wonder why Osborne really loves building trains all over the place?

I mean, CS3 previews pretty much state that he just had Erebonia, Rean and Altina included, grab North Ambria. Aka that salted country that everyone keeps mentioning about.

What exactly is his endgame and what exactly are Ouroboros' endgame anyway other than trying to rule the world I guess by grabbing all of the Sept-Terrion?
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>>377335651
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>>377335037
3rd, been playing it so much in the last week that I forgot others may have not
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>>377333862
Nobody had an arc in Class VII in CS2 besides Jusis.
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>>377283331
good luck kiddo I have complete guard up
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>>377333862
You misspelled Machias there.

Hell, Alisa had one even if she got demoted from main heroine status from Emma, strictly speaking.
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>>377335997
Trains let you control a country at that technological level, just look at what the British Empire did.
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>>377335997
>Wonder why Osborne really loves building trains all over the place?

He's carving a magic circle across Erebonia for an immortality ritual.
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>>377336176
That doesn't really apply when airships are a thing

Building trains in Liberl would be a waste for example, nobody is going to use a train when they can hop on an airship and be there faster.
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>>377336128
Sasuga best boy.
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>>377336258
Trains still have value today and were really important in the second world war which had widespread use of aircraft.
Airships in trails are still expensive and have a lower capacity than a railway.
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>>377335997
>fantasy Bismarck
He's obviously trying to meet the requirements for fantasy German Unification. He's already at the NGC phase in I&II.
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>>377336382
>Trains still have value today
Because we don't have airships. Planes don't carry cargo as effectively as trains. Airships do.
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>>377336382
Pretty much. Airships are good for commando deployment and such but if you want to move a massive number of troops and armor particularly then you want trains. You're not going to air lift all your fucking tanks across the country.
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>>377336438
Did Bismarck brainwash his own people with propaganda?
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>>377332923
>Richard is pardoned despite orchestrating a coup
>Renne gets a loving family despite slaughtering hundreds as an Enforcer
>Same for Joshua
>Same for Sharon
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>>377336592
And Fie and Sara.
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>>377336479
You can't run enough airships at the expense level they are in trails to maintain an invasion or occupation on their own. The advantage of trains is you can move a vast amount of manpower and materiel very quickly and cheap while they're very difficult to disrupt.

Airships might be good for quick reaction forces or quickly reinforcing an area but putting down an uprising or maintaining a front will require the more robust transport network of trains.
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>>377336128
Fie and Emma had to deal with their feelings regarding Zephyr and Vita, respectively. Wasn't as awesome as Jusis arresting his dad and becoming the fucking legal ruler of the Kreuzen province, but it's something.
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>>377336258
That's because Liberl doesn't understand the innate manliness that comes with playing with trains. You can't expect them too since they're ruled by a queen. Osborne, looking like he does, is considered one of the most handsome men in Erebonia by sheer virtue of the manliness that comes from his love of trains and train accessories. It broke his heart to learn that his boy plays with robots instead.
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>>377336575
He's being doing it since forming all those alliances calculus.
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>>377336575
Yes, thats part of how he unified.
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>>377336575
Actual Bismarck was playing easymode where most territory was already full of Germans,
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>>377336592
>>Richard is pardoned despite orchestrating a coup
He's put on house arrest
>>Renne gets a loving family despite slaughtering hundreds as an Enforcer
It's doubtable she slaughtered hundreds, plus she was basically manipulated into doing it due to being underage.
>Same for Joshua
Nigger what are they gonna do after Cassius Bright adopted him? You can't just waltz in and say "we're arresting your child for crimes we have no proof he committed" to Cassius fucking Bright.
>Same for Sharon
Because Alisa's mom has lods of emone
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>>377336737
>Osborne loves trains
Sounds like a man with taste
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>>377336886
Alisa's mom is the fifth Anguis
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>>377336949
That's too puffy
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>>377336713
You don't understand.

Fuels aren't an issue in Trails. Orbments are self-charging and don't run out of power very quickly. The reason we use trains over planes is because of fuel consumption. Flying cargo is always faster than a train over long distances, the issue with it is that if you need several plane trips for the cargo, then it becomes less fuel-efficient. When fuel is no longer an issue then there is no reason to use trains over airships other than Erebonia being outdated and clinging to tradition.
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>>377336592
The difference is that Queen Alicia is benevolent, unlike Osborne. And Joshua can hardly be held legally responsible of his past crimes anyway.
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>>377336886
>house arrest
>can freely travel to another country for business without as much of a bracer coming to check on him
>army literally begs for him to come back
>Cassius sucks his dick and want to use his intelligence gathering abilities
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>>377335251
Osborne is too magnanimous for that. Watch as he fixes North Ambria.
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>>377335997
Trains let him break up the noble's control of their territories and mobilize the army faster centralizing the Empire's power. The bit about North Ambria is probably because there is still something important over there.
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>>377337073
>help the country put down an uprising of your own former followers attempting another coup in your name
>help save the queen from terrorists
Wow almost like being on good behavior lightens your sentence.
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>>377335251
>bomb your own country's property in order to manipulate the people of another nation into handing it over to you
>fixing anything
lol
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>>377336686
>Fie
Kek, she wasn't even allowed to do any actual Zephyr shit.
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>>377337051
>Fuels aren't an issue in Trails.
I'm pretty sure there are, you see airliners being refuelled quite a lot.

Flying is probably inefficient regardless, they probably need to load a new orbment while the spent ones recharge.
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>>377337051
He's preparing for a global orbal shutdown
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>>377328549
Only if I get rewarded with a headpat
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>>377337051
The bigger issue is that a train can carry a hundred times more cargo than a plane just by adding cheap wheeled boxes and engines. Even if you don't have to pay for fuel, that's just a basic savings of time and advanced manufacturing, both of which are critical economic and military issues.
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>>377336575
The groundwork for unification started long before Bismarck appeared on the stage. I don't think propaganda is an appropriate tone for the pan-german movements of the 1800s though.
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>>377337345
>I'm pretty sure there are, you see airliners being refuelled quite a lot.
No you don't, they just have maintenance performed after each flight.
> they probably need to load a new orbment while the spent ones recharge.
That's nothing compared to having to expend a finite resource like fossil fuels.
If we discovered a portal to a dimension with an infinite amount of oil in it tomorrow you can bet your ass trains would only be used for cargo too heavy for planes (which I'm assuming isn't an issue for airships in Zemuria since shit like the Glorious and Pantagruel exist).
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>>377337206
Salt is a very valuable resource
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>>377337051
Airships are expensive to build and rare outside of Liberl and you'd need a lot of them constantly going back and forth to supply a front, and thats ignoring the charge times and limited range which are an issue with airships. Beyond that Airships are a lot more vulnerable to attack than trains especially since they're going to be using big bulk transports instead of more evasive and combat capable ones just out of pure economics.

Then you've got the fact you can fill a railline with fast cheap trains that can haul vast amounts for cheap. Airships might make sense for a smaller harder to traverse country like Liberl but for a large empire you're going to want trains.
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>>377337581
Easier than fossil fuels doesn't mean easier than trains in the setting and needing extensive maintenance after every short flight is going to be a problem.
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>>377337345
Pretty much, once a train is moving, it's all rolling weight, it takes very little to keep it going. Airships are clearly not designed for gliding so orbments are needed to keep them afloat all the time.
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>>377336575
He didn't need to, other Germans had already been doing it in ages
Pic related, crafted specifically to advance German Nationalism in response to the Napoleonic occupation
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>its a olivier politics star door is interrupted by Kloe nothingness episode
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>>377337741
>and needing extensive maintenance after every short flight is going to be a problem.
They don't "need" the maintenance though, it's done to make sure they stay running without needing extensive maintenance. You know, maintenance, as opposed to repairs.
>>377337654
Something tells me a ship even a bit smaller than the Pantagruel would be capable of hauling cargo more effectively than a train, considering it takes a train 8 hours to get halfway across Erebonia and it takes an airship less than an hour.
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>>377337934
Kloe I saw your panties
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Aren't airships in general mostly a thing in Liberl?
Other countries probably don't even know how to build them efficiently.
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>>377337934
They need to foreshadow Lechter "betraying" Osbourne to steal back the Black Factory
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>>377336727
Someone on the dev team was clearly a huge Jusisfag.
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>>377338019
but a train can carry a lot more cargo than an airship can.
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>>377338076
Yes, airships are a Liberlian invention.

It's why Erebonia relies on trains and has basically no air force, they fucked their relations with the country that invented airships. It's also why they lost to a podunk backwater kingdom.
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>>377338019
>need constant maintenance to avoid costly time consuming repairs
>running small airships constantly without downtime is a good idea
Trains can carry a lot
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>>377338076
Mostly. Reinford made the Bobcat. 13 Factories made the Ouroboros ships.
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>>377338076
Both Calvard and Erebonia have military airship fleets by the end of Ao/CS2, and passenger liners go to most countries.
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>>377338059
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>>377336592
>Renne gets a loving family despite slaughtering hundreds as an Enforcer

I wonder what the actual casualty rates were. Nobody ever talks about soldiers dying at any point afterwards. People dying is almost never mentioned in TitS at all.
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>>377338156
>lost
Can you not read between the lines? They settled for a peace agreement in return for Liberl's silence on Hamel.
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>>377338076
Airships are used everywhere, they just aren't as common as in Liberl.
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