Which one did you prefer and why?

2

less bullshit

>>377250131
2.
It's better.

>>377250131
2

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2 because of QoL fixes, more color, better haircut and I prefer the weapons/costumes. easier though

>>377250776
>using the QoL meme

Its right in this instance.

I appreciated how scattershot Bayonetta 1 was and in some ways that makes it more interesting but Bayonetta 2 is far and away the better game in every aspect.

2 just to spit sonycancers

2 natural progression of the story just worked and it felt like a direct improvement.
Takemikazuchi is my favorite weapon period so that helped.

1. 2 was utter dogshit and I will never not be pissed about buying a Wii U specifically for it. Complete gameplay downgrade in every respect.

>>377250131
neither. both are bad

>>377251853
>>377251947
lol

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I'd say 1 but 2 had all the right progression. Story felt weaker though. And Aesir was shit.

I actually have some good ideafag pasta cooked up regarding the progression from 2 to 3 if anyone cares to read it.

>difficulty insultingly low
>level design completely uninspired
>somehow worse bosses than the first game
>weapons are shit tier and have no versatility
>air combat removed entirely

2 had better visuals and a better story, worse everything else.

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>>377252559
sure

>>377253503
This is an objectively good assessment, and I prefer 2

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>play Bayonetta 1
>struggle a lot, multiple deaths every chapter
>play Bayonetta 2
>die a few times but nothing really too severe
I'm not sure if I got good at the game or if Bayo 2 is just much easier

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>>377254561
Hold onto your tits because I went full autism.
---
I think it's high time I post this idea that's been stewing in the back of my mind for years since Bayo 1 and it has just occured to me to complete it with Balder.
One has to ponder where the natural progression in this story will go and how and where that will make Kamiya take it. In Bayonetta 3, simply put, I want the story and mechanics in the game to be expanded on so that in this iteration; Bayo unlocks the Lumen side of her blood and becomes the first being to birth Lumen/Umbran dual arts. The first female to -ever- weild Lumen powers and a massively offensive bastardization of the status quo, garnering the full wrath of Paradiso and Inferno.
Jesus anons imagine how fucking stellar Bayo will look in Lumen then some orignial Lumen/Umbran garb. Have it be revealed that this was all apart of based Balder's -real- keikaku to upend the status quo of both Angels and Demons (of which he despises -both-) and kill Jubileus and give her eyes to his beloved daughter and, through her, humanity. All his prior douchbaggery was an act and in reality his goal was always to create the greatest world for his daughter and to rip away power from any immortal being. Even his "corruption" by Loptr was a ruse and he simply removed his memories before Loptr ever infected him so he could not discover his true intentions whilst inside him. He knows that the providence and love of Paradiso and the rebeliouness of Inferno, while -admirable- are fucking wasted on worthless immortal Angels and Demons and only humanity is worthy of it. A full on fucking reverse-Zamasu.

>>377250131
1 because I actually played it.

>>377252559
>story
>platinum game

who gives a shit?

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>>377255045
Bayonetta herself reflects this by adopting a sort of meta mischievous-virtue (which has always been her nature), an acknowledgment that Paradiso's virtue and Inferno's freedom are king but a rejection of Angels' elitism & control and Demons' hedonism & rage. Just imagine her in veiled in Lumen light embracing virtue but with a shit eating grin and a pechant for anarchy. Just a before with little to no alteration to her personality. Great right?
Geting into the actual gameplay; reality would get all kinds of fucked up and quantum-mutated fusions of Angel and Demon would start to appear as enemies. Mechanically this would manifest as a new dimension of gameplay on the same (or greater) level of nuance as dodge-offset; Lumen and Umbran weapons and attacks would need to be switched between and chosen as these chaotic enemies weaknesses to Paradiso and Infero wax & wane with visual indication. Different enemies would have different shift patterns and different metas needed to combat them.
I showed this pasta to a friend before I made a thread about it and he said:
>"Yeah dude this sounds exactly like the whole Nephilim thing from DMC"
>W-whats that?
>"Well take a look online; Dante's whole schtick is that he is half Angel half Demon so in the game he can switch between their powers like, but not quite, this thing you cooked up for Bayo."
>Well shit
Honestly rained on my parade because I came up with this from the ground up with Bayo only with ziltch knowledge of DMC lore.
Tell me to what extent this sounds like a blatant rip-off.
Overall I think this nicely addresses an obviously common curiosity on the part of players wondering what it would be like to play as a Lumen Sage. We've all thought of it.
Now r8 my autism.

2
Better gameplay and the aesthetics weren't brown on brown with a shade of brown

>>377255038
half my deaths from Bayo 1 were from the retarded QTEs

>>377250131
2 for a single playthrough, 1 if i want to replay.
Giving you free witch time on Infinite Climax is a bit too casul.

>>377255038
Bayo 2 is Bayonetta for toddlers.

Normal in 1 is like Hard in 2. Hard in 1 is like Infinite Climax in 2. Infinite Climax in 1 doesn't even have an equivalent in 2.

Also I didn't mention these in my earlier post but
>Witch Time so integrated into the core design that it's enabled on Infinite Climax
>Witch Time required to combo bosses
>enemies that break out of combos all the time
>insanely simplistic and forgiving enemy AI

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>>377255341
-more
----FAQ's and 'Idea Bouncing'----
>What about Omne
Yeah it turns out that Bayonetta's fusion of Sheba and Jubileus was the pivotal moment where Balder's keikaku kickstarts. Don't exactly know how I would write Bayo first coming into Lumen stuff but it'd be a lot like how she sounded cosplaying as that nun but real this time and with an added sensuous guttural bite to her voice. Virtue but with personality.
Bayo could be heard throughout the game waxing sexily philosophical. All punctuated with the good old "fuck Angels" (+ fuck Demons too now).
------------------
>First use of Lumen powers for Bayo?
Maybe something involving amnesia where she just straight up thinks she's a Lumen for several chapters. Or not, probably a better way to write her first use of Lumen powers than that. Unsure.
Maybe she discovers the keikaku (all "Oh daddy you were a based motherfucker all along!") And decides to possess a Joy to learn shit first, and under her own initiative... yeah that sounds better. Have her actually be seen as a Lumen tinkerer (all sexy librarian like) and all hush and devious as the implications of the ideology she knows she needs to create becomes more and more known to her.
Have this be a stark contrast to the 'her being swept up in events' themes of the last two games. SHES the one setting shit into motion now.

>>377252559
Bayonetta's story is just an excuse to transition between new stages, the same as timesplitters. This is what all video game stories should be.

>>377255375
>better gameplay

name one improvement aside from no QTEs and Umbran Climax.

Now try to justify all the downgrades.

>>377255801

There were no downgrades.

>>377255674
Well, you've convinced me. I think this is what's going to happen.

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>>377255674
-cont.
>So the plan is?
See above, and ell what's going on with her offends reality itself (Sheba/Jubileus' creation) and the lines between Paradiso, Inferno, Purgatario, and Earth start to shatter. After she's tinkering around is when the reality warping/breaking begins to happen and she catches onto it.
The reason would be behind a general doctrine of
>Angels, Demons; Get the fuck /out/
>Humanity says: Paradiso=Mine. Inferno=Mine. Purgatorio=Mine. /out/ /out/ /out/! We are going to build a wall and the immortals are going to pay for it!
>And "wall" is really just a euphemism for you just fucking dying. Bu bye ;3

A mix of reality naturally shattering and the Demons and Angels not down with the plan egging it on and joining forces against her (both accidental through reality quantum-mutating them together, and conspiring)
But wait; Wicked weaves would be an issue with out contracted Demons & Angels wouldn't they? Have Bayonetta be so devious that she sends her influence into Paradiso and Inferno to acquire traitors that are down with becoming humans and/or a part of new humanity.

I just finished 1 and now I want to play 2, someone mail me their Wii U.

>>377255926
Mate if you put this much effort into literally anything else in life you wouldn't be a smelly NEET.

>>377256039
Fuck off. Any Bayonetta posting that isn't mommy posting is welcome.

>>377255884
see
>>377253503
>>377255615

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>>377255926
-cont.
>The Demon's and Angels seen thus far?
Madame Butterfly has remained a curious figure for far too long so for sake of sating this curiosity; shes gonna have to die. Make a point that Bayo keeps some of her contractees but others turn on her including that favorite Dragon of hers who she has to put down. All broken up about it even. Gomorrah would be implied to be so full of rage and thirst for blood that it simply wouldn't be in his nature to be down with the plan, so he is an enemy. Madame would be a half point boss or something. And a bitch. Necessitating a replacement for Butterfly as she had served as Bayo's base punch & kick weaves. Some other demon down with the plan that doesn't want to get mutated. Maybe something that looks completely different from Madame's fists and heels. This isn't to say anything of the Angel contracts she scores yet.
Sheba dies too. Maybe even near the start in a similar way to Jubileus, to get her out of the way. The big end boss would be some cuhrayzee bigwig Angel-Demon fusion. Or something.
The thing I have in mind is to have as many new faces to the Angelic and Demonic hierarchies as possible. Big and small. [MAYBE] a third party of some kind, quantum-chaotic-energy-whatever versions of those Lumen and Umbran constructs for instance, as well... but probably scrap this.
Bonus: We get to see Jeanne and Rodin (maybe young Balder instead but I'd prefer not) as her Umbran and Lumen lieutenants looking all badass.

>>377256039
I aint a neet nigga. I Ayn Rand as fuck.

>>377256190
>shes gonna have to die
naw

>>377250131
Neither

>>377256541
Feasibly you're probably right. I want Bayo to battle her but that means a replacment for what Bayo has always had. Madame is presumably an absolute bro. In this story I've written her to be hardly different from Alurane. Purely for my own satisfaction of course.

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Bayo 2 soundtrack is underwhelming as fuck when compared to the first
How could it go so wrong

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>>377256190
I don't know about another M Night Shyamalan tier twist for Balder again but yeah Bayo learning to use sage magic and angel summons is the next logical step

>>377256872
>Madame is presumably an absolute bro
She definitely is. Look at the fist bump scene in 2. I'd rather have Bayo kill Queen Sheba and have Madama become god of Inferno.

>>377255536
The opposite for me, fuck the QTEs.

>>377256989
??

>>377251001
It's not like the first one was playable on Sony platforms either.

1 because the combat is more important to me than all the fixes 2 has.

>>377257254
Well Sheba DEFINITELY has to die maybe you're right

I think I'll prefer 2 forever just because of how hyped I got when the Masked Lumen first Witch Time'd me.

2. Better gameplay. Better OST. Better graphics. Better design. Better system. More skill reliant.

>>377259490
You're only right about two of those.

>>377255908
Haha if only, I can pray.
Though honeslt I just can't see Kamiya NOT having the same idea as me as far as the Lumen/Umbran shit goes.

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I want to see them top this haircut

>>377255038
A bit of both. AI is a bit easier and combat buffed up in general, but there's also no bullshit like sudden stage hazards and blinkt-or-miss-it instadeath QTAs.

>>377260074
Long hair Bayo (climax brace) already exists.

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>>377250131
I never played the first one because it's on the shitty WiiU so Bayonetta 1 wins by far.

>>377260074
Diddo, something that goes perfectly with my Lumen Bayo ideafaggotry. Maybe longish again but normal and not that nest monstrosity.

>>377256989
>Bayo 2 soundtrack is underwhelming as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIrpplCZ4I4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QAZFu4IVm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpuW4W7ggvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QzfO4DMQFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BAcyyGXzIE

APOLOGIZE

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>not that nest monstrosity
delet this beehive is the best

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>>377257195
I really can't see Kamiya not doing it, ignoring everything else. I wrote my prose with the presumption that he might try to play it too safe and predictable with that base concept.
I legitimately tried to outcompete this strawman I had cooked up for him. Maybe he has something greater still but I bet you my autism trumps his.

God Hand

>>377261704
who?

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>>377255045
>>377255341
>>377255674
>>377255926
>>377256190
Autism is truly a fearsome beast.
10/10 I love it. Consider me entertained

Someone is modding the PC version to remove QTEs all together.

>>377262034
has the PC version been modded to have the superior Bayonetta 2 design?

>>377262114
People have said its too hard due to all the shit on her model.

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>>377261975
Thanks

>>377250131
>Bayo 2 on the left
>Bayo 1 on the right
My 'tism

>>377259370
It's called "Light Speed" for sages.

>>377262356
You have to see it from right to left. Jap/Weeb way

The pastebin where I have saved my Lumen/Umbran prose for those who are interested.
https://pastebin.com/edit/iggiYXXw

Wow, I put 700 hours into this franchise and I don't even have this level of autism about it.

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2 has better combos, level design, gameplay, art direction, pretty much everything.

Except fucking bosses.
Flying Boss Battles are quite literally the worst thing ever in Bayonetta 2, so much so that I'd deal with QTEs over that braindead shit.

>>377264403
>2 has better combos, level design, gameplay,

it is absolutely worse in all these aspects. Especially the gameplay.

>>377253503
>somehow worse bosses than the first game
less over-the-top, but infinitely better designed


>air combat removed entirely
infinite juggling was removed unless you're attacking an enemy from the back, and infinite juggling trivializes the game so this is a good thing

>>377260074
>Bayonetta 3
>Paradiso and Inferno break the seperation of planes and fight each other in purgatorio
>fighting angels and demons simultaneously
>new song is Blue Moon
>Bayonetta's haircut is bald
>Jeanne's haircut is dreadlocks down past her ass

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>>377264789
Jesus

>>377264789
>>Bayonetta's haircut is bald
>>Jeanne's haircut is dreadlocks down past her ass
I was with you until this. What the is wrong with you anon?

>>377265769
>bayo 1
>beehive bayo, short-hair jeanne
>bayo 2
>pixie bayo, long-hair jeanne
>bayo 3
>bald bayo, extremely long-hair jeanne

it's literally canon

So did the PC port get really bad after chapter 4? Seems like after Chapter 5 I've had frames go down to single digits

bayonetta one because better game play and combos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wnswf_UMsY

>>377266879
there's one part in whatever the burning city chapter is where the frames chug when you go back to the bridge on the far left

otherwise everything is silky smooth

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>>377250131
Man Jeanne was really ugly in Bayonneta with those eyelashes. Was that done on purpose? She looks so much better in Bayo 2.

>>377267013
I noticed this too

>>377266879
I had 0 problems

>>377267453
I hope they scrap the red oufit. I never liked it. She desrves something stylish and not a solid mass of color.

2 for combat. 1 for hype bosses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFPVWv7X0c4

>>377250131
2, by a mile.

>>377269169
Kamiya likes it so it stays.

>>377259038
I wanna hug her

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2.
The Cardinal Virtues and Jubileus in 1 were utter cancer and a bunch of other design decisions make me put it under 2.

I'm a weirdo and prefer W101 to both of them, though

2 was too fucking easy

>>377255038

Platinum said pre-release that 2's hard is one's normal and so anyone who played 1 should play 2 on hard from the beginning.

>>377250131
>Enemies require Witch Time to beat
>Enemies can break out of combos and juggle state
Bayonetta 2 was garbage.

>>377271323
no.

>>377271323
>>Enemies require Witch Time to beat
>Game is built around a mechanic in it.

I really don't get why people hate this. Witch Time just felt like a tacked on crutch in Bayo1 and the game would just remove it whenever it felt like it, lacking consistency.
Witch Time feels like it was actually meant to be a part of the game in 2.

>>377271536
Because it severely limits your approach to combat and makes everything incredibly repetitive, this entire game restricts your freedom compared to the first one and forces you to play by certain rules if you want to get a Platinum.
Umbran Climax was also a mistake the way it was implemented.

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>>377271323
>Enemies can break out of combos and juggle state
That was DELICIOUSLY difficult pleb. Christ, How to know you're a plebian: The post.

>>377272310
>Bayonetta for toddlers
>Difficult
It's annoying, not difficult.

>There are people who actually think 2 is difficult in any way

how

>>377272406
Oh please; tell me how getting through all the Witch Trials were "for toddlers". PPing them on Infinite Climax no less.

>>377271536
because you can't do anything out side of witch time in bayonetta 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wnswf_UMsY

>>377272824
>>377272846

>>377272310
it wasn't hard though, it just made it take longer and we less fun since you are limited to witch time which never last longer enough.

>>377272938
>have to use witch time in order to infinitely combo things to death
I really don't see how this is a problem. You just need to play differently. And the person that posted the video even said the system was a good thing, so I don't know what your point is.

Neither. Platinum's action games are overrated as fuck. Boring shit like this somehow gets felated and made thanks to the pile of garbage known as DMC3. Focus way too much on button mashing instead of using the level in clever ways or more importantly delivering a more visceral, heavier experience along with its fast,fast, fast one.

>>377272846
dodge then attack, that it really you are guaranteed witch time everytime. and some bosses that show up in those chapters can't really be damaged much out side of it.

>>377273227
Name a good action game.

>>377273310
He'll say Ninja Gaiden Black.

>>377250131
2 because it's exclusive

>>377250131

Bayo 2 because of polish and less bullshit enemies with unavoidable attacks unless you have the reflexes of a fucking machine.

>>377273246
Not Pure Platinuming it though, which is all I care about.

>>377273353
Not even as good as God Hand desu, better than Bayo 2 at least.

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>>377273486
>godhand

>>377273194
he said its not that bad but not that bad is still bad just not "that" bad. my point was you are forced to wait to go on the offensive on top of that the wicked weave are trash now since the don't launch.
>>377273436
that not really that hard either.

>>377273380
>less bullshit enemies with unavoidable attacks
Lol?
The Masked Lumen sage has almost no cues for any of his attacks and can hit you offscreen, one of the worst enemies in an action game.
The first Bayonetta has nothing like that.

>>377273651
>Seems like there's lots of arguments from both sides, I guess whether or not you like the system depends on what kind of player you are.

>Now, after finishing my Infinite Climax playthrough and using Bracelet of Time throughout most of it, this system doesn't really bother or matter THAT much. The accessory itself is easily obtainable and the magic cost to use it is next to nothing, it's a totally feasible item that opens the combo system right up, but you just need to put in slightly more effort. If you don't want to use it, that's fine too, you just have to get used to not infiniting everything to death and dodge offset into wicked weaves to kill things faster instead of doing a long drawn out combo.

>I do still wish you could relaunch, or do something to enable relaunches through skillfull play, but that currently isn't possible outside of using UC.
>So my final verdict is that this system is actually a GOOD thing. You can work around AND with it at the same time. It also makes repeat playthrough less boring and the higher HP enemies less of a slog. There are no Ardor-type enemies in this game by the way, the medium-size enemies all die relatively quickly so even full combos with Bracelet of Time aren't 20+ second affairs if you decide to go that route.

>>377273731
>but that currently isn't possible outside of using UC.
And it's fucking garbage, call me when Kamiya makes Bayonetta 3.

>>377273838
>I can't infinitely juggle enemies effortlessly now
Boohoo.

2 for costumes, 1 for everything else

Do people just like 2 better to avoid
>NEVER EVER
shitposting or something? I can't wrap my head around why anyone would think it's better than 1.

>>377274212
I just enjoyed playing 2 more than I enjoyed playing 1.

>>377250901
>Bayonetta 2 is far and away the better game in every aspect.
>combat is worse in virtually every regard but moveset copypasta

>>377274212
It usually boils down to >Muh QTEs

I bet everyone in here just spammed PKP in Bayo1 anyway

>>377255474
Try it above Normal.

Can someone explain the lore behind those Madames the witches made pacts with?
Can I get a long rundown?

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>>377250131
1. 2 felt extremely dull and I was bored for the majority of the game. Every fight seemed to boil down to
>Dodge and fill magic, you can DO but there's almost no point because enemies just say fuck you and seemingly chose when to and when to not get hit by things
>UC
>repeat

Also I got very annoyed at how it every reference felt like it came from a quota. They just all seem so much worse after coming from TW101 Not to mention even the final boss cutscene was lifted from Bayo 1 with the Big Bang Bonus and guiding the guy into the sun.

>>377273891
Pretty much, Bayo 2 is entirely about restricting the player which is the opposite of what a good action game should be doing.

>>377259490
>More skill reliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niG6HeZvp4g

>>377274463
A good action game shouldn't just let you mindlessly juggle the enemies.
I kind of hate that everyone just wants actions games to move towards long flashy combos.

>>377274212
more colors, better weapons and costumes

>>377274551
At least they got Jeanne's hair right in this game, holy fuck.

>>377274654
Excuse me?

>>377274572
>A good action game shouldn't just let you mindlessly juggle the enemies.
Disagree, allowing that means you can get cuhrayzee as fuck and be creative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jj0W1uJJKo

>>377264561
>less over-the-top, but infinitely better designed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jipey9Evw

>infinite juggling was removed unless you're attacking an enemy from the back, and infinite juggling trivializes the game so this is a good thing
Rodin infinites everything but environmental bosses, in 1 you needed an opening before combo time started then had to be able to keep it up, and was often weaker than just going for Durga bombs/Kilgore rockets. Juggling was absolutely fine in 1.

>>377274703
I really like her hair in 2 compared to 1.

>>377273731
that doesn't refute my point that you are limited to witch time. he even says not being able to relaunch sucks and on top of that his combo videos uses bracelet of time which goes against when hes saying about the changes being good. if they were good he wouldn't use it all the time but you have to if you want to do something interesting. remember bracelet of time can only be earned after beating the game so you have to go the whole game not being able to do flashy combos.
>>377273891
juggling enemies effortlessly is better than effortlessly dodging and attacks with no room for creativity. also you are ignoring that some enemies will straight up parry everything out side of witch time so enemies like grace, glory and joy will can only be attacked during witch time where as in bayo 1 you could hit them out side of it without having to use witch and no you can't juggle these guys to death but in bayo 1 you can at least stagger, launch and knock them down them.

>>377274572
this.

>>377274785
>allowing that means you can get cuhrayzee as fuck and be creative.
No, you're just wailing on a punching bag. There's nothing creative about it. It's mindless and boring

>>377271536
>Game is built around a mechanic in it.
Bayonetta was built around dodge offset, WT was a crutch to help new players. Dodge->chip damage is super boring.

>>377272310
>That was DELICIOUSLY difficult pleb.
>what is the BoT
>what is Rodin
>what is Alruane
>what is the Chomp

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I'm not sure exactly what I'm doing but sometimes I hit an enemy far away and press a button and I kind of fly or teleport to them. what is this?

>>377274406
Please respond

>>377274785
what's the point if the game never forces you though?

so you see a bunch of obnoxious text on the screen saying "SICK BRO!" and get a high score? fuck that.

>>377274918
>There's nothing creative about it.
Did you watch the video I linked?

>>377273194
>I really don't see how this is a problem.
You can do basically nothing outside WT.

>And the person that posted the video even said the system was a good thing
No, he said you could work around it using the most broken accessory in the game after the Climax Bracelet.

>>377274463
Nigger the whole idea of video games is the creative imposition of restraints on the player. Talking out of your ass.
A game devoid of impositions on the player is akin to some physics engie sandbox game with no goals.

>>377274986
air trick

>>377274986
umbran spear. double tap lock on to do it

>>377273436
Pure Platinum is a complete joke in Bayonetta 2, there is no item penalty, you don't have to style anymore and the BoT breaks every fight.

>>377275117
They're not fighting around the enemies. They're just wailing on them like punching bags. You can do a lot of attacks, sure, but does it really matter when most of the enemies are so utterly braindead that they can't even respond to all of your CUHRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYZEEEEEEEE combos? It's like watching someone stomp on an ant, but instead of just stepping on it and getting it over with, they preform a full dance routine instead

>>377274463
Games are fun because they have rules.

>>377274572
>what are onfire enemies
>who are Fairness/Fearless, Gracious/Glorious, Joy, Inspired, and Braves

>>377274572
>A good action game shouldn't just let you mindlessly juggle the enemies.
1 didn't, you had to have the skill to pull it off, be able to capitalize off the opening and deal with buddies. And comboing isn't as fast or easy as using your stronger options.

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>>377275309
Bayo 2's rules aren't fun.

>>377275542
they are for most people

>>377275046
>what's the point if the game never forces you though?
Because it can be done. Same reason people to bother to use anything other than the default weapon in Action games, it's fun.

>>377275579
No they aren't, literally no one likes forced Witch Time.

>>377275628
ok

Wait what the fuck, you can LITERALLY PLAY AS MUMMY IN THE SECOND ONE?
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

>>377275287
the difference is custom combos looks cool dodging, triggering witch and landing a few hit isn't cool nor does it feel good to do. it's like traffic lights you can only go when the lights are green you can only do anything when you are in witch time, out side of it you can't do anything.
w101 felt more like bayonetta than bayonetta 2

>>377276051
ye but it kinda sucks. wait for cemu mods.

>>377276072
>the difference is custom combos looks cool
I don't consider wailing on mindless enemies that can barely or just can't fight back to be all that cool. It's my main problem with combo video stuff in general.
>Look how long I can beat up this one enemy with tons of health who can barely do anything. Look how cool I am. So cool. CUHRAYZEE

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>>377276051
wut

>>377276051
who?

>>377276707
>>377276467
MUMMY!!

>>377276467
>>377276707
I think he's talking about Rosa

>>377275626
>it's fun

I disagree. it would be more fun if there were actual reasons to use your tools besides showing off. more utilitarian.

I prefer long haired Bayo, she looks like a dyke with short hair

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>>377276730
Kid Bayonetta was pretty cute not gonna lie.

>>377276447
>>377275436

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>TFW I'm the only anon on /v/ who likes sandbag sims anymore

>>377276868
Stuff that generally gets shown off less in CUHRAYZEE combo videos because they're harder to work around.
I'm not saying all enemies in Bayo are mindless, just most of them.

>>377276735
Does Rosa have differnet outfits or is she locked into one only?

>>377277151
I think it's only the one.

I really wished there was a no witch time mode, it feels like the game is treating me like a baby everytime.

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>ywn have short-haired Bayo as a mommy AND as a gf

Why live?

>>377277254
Infinite Climax

>>377276447
but the hole game isn't like that and for the most part and when ever 0-death combos happen it's usually when you cleared everyone in the room but one guy to combo because the enemies will try and attack.
>I don't consider wailing on mindless enemies that can barely or just can't fight back to be all that cool. It's my main problem with combo video stuff in general.
but dodging landing a few hits with no creativity is cool. in bayo 1 you can do both in bayo 2 you can only do 1.
>Look how long I can beat up this one enemy with tons of health who can barely do anything. Look how cool I am. So cool. CUHRAYZEE
its not about just hitting an enemies untill it dies its about trying to make a cool looking custom combo. custom combos aside the whole and game is about being stylish. they didn't have to give bayonetta good animations or crazying looking moves but that's what the game is about being stylish. if it wasn't then they wouldn't give her over the top animation or moves.

>>377277056
I wonder how can some people like the idea of enemies cutting off your combo just for the sake of it. If you don't want to have fun sandbagging enemies then just play something else that enemies can attack you while they're being attacked like Lords of the Fallen then, that might be more up your alley.

So hows that pure platinum coming along anon?You can do it!

>>377277346
Thats exclusive to 1

>>377277419
Yeah, lets just make every enemy in every action game the Scarecrow from DMC4, but just with varying amounts of health. That way every player can do their CUHRAYZEEEEEEEE combos all the time.

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>>377277507
You didn't specify.

>>377277090
>just most of them
That's wrong though. The only ones you can really style on Affinity, Applaud, and Ardor. Other enemies like Dear/Decorations, Kinship, and Enchants either die too fast or simply can't be comboed in the case of Kinship.

>>377277636
I was talking about mindless enemies, not how much health they have.

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So anons, which one?

>>377277530
Then just don't make 90% of the enemies get staggered infinitely, or just make other enemies try and attack you instead of just make them watch while you destroy one of their friends, easy isn't it?

>>377277795
I become Bayo's mommy

>>377277680
Well those three are the only "mindless" enemies that you can combo in the way you're describing. And even then Ardors need to be baited into a situation where you can get them in the air first.

>>377277812
>Then just don't make 90% of the enemies get staggered infinitely
But then players won't be able to go CUHRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYZEE on the worthless sandbags of enemies that have been put into the game. Just let the player mindless mash out their combo because that's all action game players want nowadays anyways, isn't it?

>>377277474
Was much easier done with 2 since i could just suck yellow lolis and the ranking was the same.
Hardest was the Jeanne fight since not only i had to deal with her but also her qtes out of nowhere.

>Tfw no mod to mod Rosa into Bayo 1 in place of useless Zero

>>377277530
some people like the idea of a visual instrument based on action.

>>377277898
And it's still the majority of stuff you'll see in combo videos because of how low effort it is.
Maybe if those enemies could actually fight back at times, you'd see less combo videos

>>377276805
whoa. there's no need for that sort of language.

>>377276863
that's Cereza, stupid.

>>377277951
And those people are making my action games worse.

>don't give enemies mechanics that can interrupt my 1000000 hit combo. I don't like it.

>>377277905
just have both some enemies you can combo to death when they are the last one in the room and other you can't it's not that hard to have both but only have combo braking enemies sucks.

>>377277980
You see combo videos with mostly them because they're the ones that LOOK the most visually impressive. However, pure platting a Gracious and Glorious FEELS more rewarding than comboing out on a dumb ol' Ardor, which is why there's normally some in combo clips anyways.

>>377277905
Unfortunately that's the sad truth anon, we probably wont be getting any more ninja gaidens these days.

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>>377260074
Impossible. She's perfection incarnated.

Someone, please share some mommy Bayo greentexts. I'm shit at that kind of thing.

>>377277795
C all the way.

she can breastfeed me while giving me a handjob.

>>377278103
here>>377278167

well what is your perfect game.

>>377278231
DO you have any NG webms?
I'd like to expand upon my cuhrayzee folder.

>>377278206
>that LOOK the most visually impressive.
But it loses all of it's impressiveness when you actually think about how the enemy is like a helpless fish out of water once you get him in your 1 gorillion hit combo.

>However, pure platting a Gracious and Glorious FEELS more rewarding
Not what we're talking about here. We're talking about "Boohoo, I can't infinitely combo enemies in Bayo2"

>>377278167
No, only scarecrows, because what if some one gets hit out of their CUHRAYZEEEEEEEE combo they're doing? They'd hate the game like how everyone apparently hates Bayo 2.

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>>377278384
Not him, but I have this. And another one that wasn't named correctly so I'll have to go through my folder to find it.

>>377278465
The problem with bayo 2 is that quite some enemies can break out of the combos and on a game that has all that score rating shit that kind of shit makes more people mad than anything else.

>>377278585
How did you mod Bayo's UI?

>>377278679
How I wished that was bayo anon...

>>377278465
>>377278647

>Need to keep a combo going to get PP
>*blocks your combo*
>pssh
>nothing personnel kid

>>377278647
Why is it such a big deal that enemies can get out of combos?
You just keep saying it's shit because it's shit.
The game's scoring system would obviously be based around this change in gameplay, so I don't know why you're bringing up the scoring system.

>>377278397
It still has effectiveness because you can show how differently you can combo. Bayo 2 is a lot less enjoyable because there's exactly one way to combo enemies in 2 and it's using UC. You want to talk about fish out of water? That's exactly what happens when you activate Climax because they can't do anything while you struggle to finish them off so you can still get the plat for time due to how long it takes to get a magic bar full again.

>>377278585
Why is everything exploding every 2 seconds?

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>>377278743
I'd be ok with that only if it was a Joy.

>>377278827
IS Ninjas

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>>377278679
You are better than that, anon.

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>>377278384

>>377278774
>Why is it such a big deal that enemies can get out of combos?
Because the implementation is obnoxious.

>>377278889
>So I just started this. The most important thing I need to know is who to romance. I was thinking Naoto because I have a huge short hair fetish and she seem's cut as fuck.

>>377278973
If I took off those glasses would you die?

>>377279059
Romance Kanji

>>377267453
She was the heir, of course her face and makeup kinda weird until 2 she accepted the life like Bayo and do fashion properly.

Tales of Hearts had the perfect system for enemies breaking combos.
If you kept plowing on them they'd eventually do a rage attack that would ignore everything and knock you down BUT if you had the very precise timing you could parry it and dizzy the enemy instead

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>>377279020
Good stuff, have a rare DMC3 webm.

I take 1 for combat and 2 for character design and story. What the fuck with bayo 2 difficulty so inconsistent ?

>>377278397
not really. when a pro plays their musical instrument is not impressive there instrument is station and can't move.
>>377278465
the thing with bayo2 is she is completely useless out side of witch time unless she is fighting small enemies who you can combo to death anway. this whole back forth thing doesn't work in bayo2 becauce it's like a turn based game, wait till enemies attack, dodge, now it's your turn to attack, witch times ends now it's their turn to attack again.

>>377279240
>What the fuck with bayo 2 difficulty so inconsistent ?

>When the prologue is the hardest level in the game

>>377279059
>>377279087
Is the P4 fighting game cuhrayzee?

>>377279020
>>377279172
Some good shit there lads, any of you got some godhand webms?

>>377279321
no play dmc vs capcom 3 for cuhrayzee

>>377279020
I love this guy, he styles on fuckers even when shit looks awful.
I wish someone had broken down the enemies and weapons in the same detail like they did for NG:B.

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>>377279063
I think (YOU) would.

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>>377279567
Yeah I've got a few.

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>>377279567
I gotcha.

>>377262034
Talk about Pc
I completed the game but don't want to replay it 1 millions time to unlock everything,
Tried downloading save file and put it in the folder but the game just say can't access save file and nothing changes
How do I properly replace the save files so that it unlock everything?

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>>377279721
Just about to post this one, so I'll go with this one which gives me a good laugh.

>>377262034
link?

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>>377278285
What else do you think she would do?

>>377279626
>>377279721
Thanks lads.
>That "kick me" on his back
>That fucking system that the better you played the harder the game got.
>That dodging and making your own combos system
How I miss this game so fucking much, I pray every single day ign burns to the ground.

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>>377278889

Okay

Does Bayonetta trim/shave her pubes?
And is she a virgin?

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>>377279981
Mikami said in an interview a year or so back that he'd like to revisit this and Dino Crisis at some point. God Hand is still my favorite action game to date, every time I play it it's very different from the last.

Here's another rare DMC4 webm too.

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>>377279985

>>377280068
I seriously hope so anon, talking about the topic from before, most enemies should be like webm related, you can still go cuuuhrazy but they shouldn't just be standing there waiting to get comboed to death.

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>>377279915
I see you're a man of taste, as I would've also posted this.

Anyway, here's another webm for >>377278384

>>377280061
No, it's pretty shaggy down there and I would not hesitate to use it as a dental floss.

>>377280068
Isn't Mikami retired though?

>>377280061
1 probably not because she control her hair.
2 she said she doesn't want a child but doesn't mind the process of making in one i dunno if she taunting luka.

>>377280230
can you still do this in sigma 2 on ps3? Pls respond

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>>377280306
He hasn't announced anything since The Evil Within but in the same interview I was talking about he says he loves it to much to quit.
http://gamelab.es/2015/news/gamelab-mikami-honor/

I hope he does something else, while TEW was kind of disappointing games, like REmake, RE4, Vanquish and God Hand are some of the best I've had the pleasure of playing so I hope he keeps making them.

>>377260074
ponytail

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>>377250131
1 has the better progression and story, and better music in my opinion. The final boss of 1 is WAY MUCH FUCKING BETTER than the final boss in 2.
2 has the better all-around gameplay with a lot of QoL fixes, and no QTEs that instantly kill you.

>>377279769
did you pirate the game?

>>377280462
>resurrect the God Hand franchise as a role-playing game.
What did he mean by this? adding rpg elements to the game or something?

>>377280462
>resurrect the God Hand franchise as a role-playing game

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>tfw Bayo awakened my mommy fetish

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>>377280623
>>377280625
Leave God Hand to me.

2's combat feels better and smoother, there are no retarded QTEs, but the game lacks that overtime boss fight, if it had that I'd be all behind 2, also Tag Climax was actually good.

I hope 3 fixes what worked and what didn't work in the previous titles and I need that overtime boss fight, it needs to feel like I've already finished and then I need to fly to the moon and beat a god into submission.

>>377280836
but shes not even a mom. this makes no sense.

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this game is stupid

>>377280985
I swear to god if bethesda touches another one of my beloved franchises and fucks it all i'm going to murder someone.

>>377281214
I should've been a pole dancer!

>>377281214
OH

>>377281390
>>377281474

It was on hard and the enemies are stupid and so is the game

does baynoetta like balls?

>>377281495
WHAT

>>377281495
>>377281629
A

>>377281174
She's her own mom

>>377281807
go away anita

>>377250131
everyone's gonna say 2 now because 1 got ported. fucking consolefags

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Does Bayo like little boys?

>>377282086
no shes not a pedo

>>377281716

Yeah yeah keep going with that meme that doesn't excuse how fucking dumb and stupid the game and the entire difficulty system is

>>377282182
DAY

>>377250131
PS4 Bayonetta remaster when?

Why aren't they making this?

It would literally outsell Bayonetta 2 on Pee Poo.

>mfw when bayo2 audio becomes fixed in CEMU and nintendo still won't port it
>mfw people will be playing it on pc without buying the console nor the game
>mfw face when nintendo loves losing money

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>>377282135
Hmm, I don't know about that.

>>377282232
>Sonybros are still assblasted over this
The one silver lining of Bayo 2

>>377250131
>All these people saying 2

So did all of you buy Wii us or is it somehow piratable??

>>377282321
>mfw when
>mfw
>mfw face when

What?

>>377250131
2, because it has a may more polished gameplay. The main example is the flyimg section in 2 compared to the one in the first Bayonetta.
Also, multiplayer challenges.
When people say that 1 was harder, they simply mean it was more unfair and less well designed.

>>377280586
No, have it in steam

>>377282461
It's playable on CEMU, the only bugs are audio and some textures
Witch time audio is FUCKED

>>377282330
She looked so much better in the first one.

>>377282461

There is CEMU and WiiU_USB_Helper

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>>377282569
Beehive was a mistake. It just accentuated everything wrong with that design.

>>377281174
She does act like how a guardian figure with troublesome children would. Add in some sexualization, dominatrix tendencies and here you go.

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>>377282881
Beehive is patrician.

>>377278262
What the fuck did I say? >>377256121

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>>377283126
Apparently nothing.

>>377282547
Multiplayer was so much fun. Although it was hard to resist being an asshole with Kafka and Chain Chomp.

>>377256190

Amazing

Man I wish there was coop for Bayonetta, fuck that would be awesome, Bayo and Jeanne fighting side by side
Bayonetta 3 WHEN

>>377281716
DAY

>>377282461
only idorts should be allowed to post on this board

>>377283616
Um Bayonetta 2. Did you play it?

Can you use KB+M for bayo2 with CEMU?
I tried playing Bayo 1 with controller, preferred kb+m

2, but 1 had a much better final act from the space harrier section on. 2's story and aesir weren't as fun, luka was fine but the kid was painful to listen to. 2 has better overall gameplay though

>It was stated by Hideki Kamiya in an interview with My Nintendo News, that in the event that Bayonetta 2 is a success, he already has plans for a third title in the works. The series is likely to continue on the Nintendo Switch, as the popularity of Nintendos help with developing the second game likely will prompt them to keep hold of the IP on their systems.

REEEE

Isn't Switch also a handheld?

>>377279020
oh dear. I don't remember this game being so violent. this a mod?

>>377279240
2's story was awful. that kid was annoying too.

"'allo, luv"

piss off.

>>377283884
That would literally be the only game that would make me buy a Switch. Bought a Wii U just for Bayo 2, never regretted it.

W101 was great too. W102 when?

>>377283884
>that in the event that Bayonetta 2 is a success
Pretty sure it was a commercial bomb though, action games outside of DMC never have sold well and I can't imagine one on the Wii U of all places to break the trend.

>>377283982
>not liking cheeky shota
Fag

>>377284006
Alright now W101 DEFINITELY bombed.

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>>377284085

>>377284068
800k on a 11 million install base

>Demon's Souls works on RPCS3
>Bayonetta 2 works on CEMU
Is the age of consoles finally nearing it's end?

>>377284367
no?

>>377250776
>more color
I didn't realize how drab Bayo1 looked until I checked out the WiiU copy of it after beating 2.

Did anyone ever mod out the brown & bloom filter on the PC port? It may be an excuse to revisit it.

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1 has better balanced Combat but holey fuuk the campaign flip flops all over the place and everything feels so fucking disjointed, like you seriously have trouble following what's even happening.

Bayonetta 2's campaign is superior because its just way more straightforward. I like Bayo and the music more, and there are cool additions. What sucks about 2 is the reliance on Witch Time and the fact that the last chapters feel rushed.

I don't think there's a best Bayonetta, they have different problems.

>>377284684
>like you seriously have trouble following what's even happening.
Yeah which is why you skip the cutscenes in both games so you don't have to even begin to try to wrap your head around the nonsense of their plots.

>>377284850
>Skip cutscene
>Immediately get hit by something as soon as you get in game
Nice.

>>377285396
>start
>return to title
Bayonettahas ruined me. I do this shit in games without rankings now.

>>377285480

You mean not getting hit?

>>377250131
the non sjw haircut one

>>377285640
xDD

>>377284449
Wii u version has washed out Colors

>>377285526
I mean quitting every time I do get hit.

>>377284085
He has ss3 eye brow bones

>When 90% of your deaths are fucking retarded QTEs

>>377285772
Bayo1 has a grey-brown-piss filter no matter what version.

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>>377280836
>mfw not enough nurturing handjob videos online

>>377286192
Are the QTEs for PC version a lot harder than they were for consoles for anyone else?

>>377286330
pretty sure only the jeanne counter qte is more difficult

>>377286330
>>377286192
This happens to me all the time.
I don't know why it never registers my X/A inputs in time, A+B works everytime though.
I die 2 to 3 times on the "time the X press" QTEs and they also come out of nowhere sometimes, I wish the damn things followed a somewhat predictable pattern like in Metal Gear Rising, it always slows down time for a moment with the blue overlay and sometimes it has the Kanji that makes it super obvious.

>>377283906
NG2 on 360 was some GoW tier shit.

Do I need to complete all alfheims in the chapter to unlock Zero, for example if I have previously finished one, do I need to beat it again or do I only need to complete the other ones in the same chapter that I hadn't previously completed?

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>>377286280
What else do you think she would do?

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>>377287336
hairjob of course

>>377287273
Rather to unlock the lost chapters I mean.

>>377287534
I uhhh hhuhhh
I
wow
damn
I love bayo
pantyjobs, hairjobs, eye contact, sockjobs, pantyhosejobs, sniffing her butt, thighjobs, hand holding and sniffing her cute nape!

>>377287534
>no white socks
>no thigh highs
Dammit, son, come on now!

>>377287794
>>377287273
Please respond

>>377267453
FUCK YOU
The eyelashes were the shit. They were a character-defining trait, like Bayo's glasses and mole.
I agree that her haircut and costume are better in 2, but she almost looks like an entirely different character without the thick anime eyelashes.

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>>377281214
>>377281495
>play on Normal for the first time
>stones galore
>speedrun Hard under three hours skipping every alfheim
>still get gold on most levels
GIT HUB

>>377289061
I dunno what zero or lost chapters are, but if you're replaying a chapter and you skip an Alfheim portal you've done previously, it still counts as a missed verse in the chapter results.

>>377289656
>I dunno what zero or lost chapters are

You haven't played like 15% of the content then

>>377289061
>tfw no response

>>377289535
It's not a matter of gitting gud if the game is bullshit

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>>377292079
Cmon son

>>377256989
Tru

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>>377283982
Switch to Jap for the ara aras~ , everyone is better except Rodin who sounds like an old man

>>377250194
>>377250210
>>377250285
>>377250776
This.