Why does it keep selling? I thought we said it would flop.

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>>377249289
>we

>>377249289

Look at first 2 quarter numbers for Wii U and compare them to the Switch. It should give you some insight.

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>>377249289
The Shitch won't make it past 40m lifetime. Retard nintenbros. There is no market for this shit. Shiny new toy effect is in full force.

>>377249423
Wii U is during the holidays, Switch during a bad time for video games.

>>377249384
fpbp

>>377249289
>we

Go back.

>>377249510
>>377249643
>keeps pushing back the goalposts

I remember when you retards said it wouldn't hit 20m

>>377249519

The point is that most systems start out strong because they're new and shiny. Numbers don't mean anything until after the 1st year. I'm not saying the Switch will fail. Just that we won't know for a long time.

Incidentally, I loaded 60 WiiU games to my hacked WiiU in the last 2 days, with another 200 to go. It is instantly the best $350 I've ever spent on a console and the sales figures will never reflect how good how much of a bargain that system has the potential to be.

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>tfw finally purchased a switch along with zelda and mario kart 8 deluxe

>>377250138
I bet you it won't even hit that.

never trust shitposters

I'm finna buy one just for mario kart know i'm sayin

>>377249289
I'm thinking of buying the non-portable Switch...

What was it called again?

>>377249289
>weeeeee

The switch is flopping. Only the children here with their head in the sand are saying otherwise

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>"Why does the Wii U still keep selling, I thought /v/ said it would flop!"

Call me when it breaks past the first 10-15 million guaranteed buys from autistic Nintenbros, THEN i'll be impressed.

>>377249423

Wii U's was worse. It dropped to around 100,000 in January. Its initial launch was amazing, but subsequent months the sales crashed. There's no sign of that for Switch right now, it's still steadily selling well. Not saying things can't change, but people are incorrect when they compare the two and claim the performance is the same.

Wii U's was basically one and done. It blew its load in November and dropped to nothing. Switch has had steady but modest sales.

>>377252620

>There's no sign of that for Switch right now,

There's no sign of nothing right now. It's been literally 2 months.

>>377252332
>>377252441
hahahahahahah like fucking clockwork these two cuckolds show up

>>377253216

>say something dumb
>get BTFO
>"c-c-c-cuck"

Sorry buddeh but here's the facts

>New console is barely outselling a 4 year old console
>Persona 5 (on PS4) best seller by far (6 out of 10 games in the top 10 best sellers are PS4 version)
>Sony PS4 still has the best launch of any other console


It's cute that the Switch isn't a TOTAL disaster at launch (still FAR too early too call it a success) but based King Sony are just on another level.

They only have their own records to break at this point (PS2 best selling system, PS4 most successful launch).

Even in games they're breaking records with the Last of Us having more GoTY awards than ANY other exclusive ever made and it's a new IP.

You literally CAN'T(cannot) stop Sony.

>>377253440
>reddit spacer
Didn't even fucking read. Go back to /r/sony you BBC slurping cuckold.

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>>377253216

Sorry, forgot pic

>>377253538
>left side is april 1st
>right side is march 11th
Do you even look at the images you post?

>>377252620

WiiU units sold, by year:
2012: 3.06m
2013: 3.45m
2014: 2.72m
2015: 3.38m
2016: 3.26m

There was no significant drop off. The only thing that changed is what we see now with the Switch - New Toy Syndrome in the 4th quarter of 2012.

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>>377254156

Switch sales are about 70% of what WiiU's were in the first 2 months.

>>377253538
>vgchartz

>>377252441

And the 3DS?

>>377249289
Yeah but /v/ doesn't know shit about Video games

>>377253538
>Left side is more recent than the right
>Using Persona 5 launch week sales vs Breath of the Wild a month after release
>Still 1/3rd of Persona 5's sales

????

>>377253440
>You literally CAN'T(cannot) stop Sony
But no one buys Sony games. It's just COD/FIFA

>>377250183
>le increasingly nervous man

NintenTORtanic confirmed?

Switch DOA?

Unlike the Wii U, it actually got a lot of marketing, so a lot of normalcucks fell for the hype and bought it without even thinking of what they were going to use it for.

It will die down in a few months once all the people who have been waiting to buy it because of the artificial scarcity finally get it. Nobody who actually cares about games will buy it

>>377257007
It was announced, like, two months before it came out and I didn't start seeing advertising until after it was released...

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>>377257007
This.

Nutendo is blunder after blunder after blunder after blunder after blunder........

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>>377257293
>HZD
>good

kekkels

>>377257063
I probably should've been more specific. I don't just mean advertising, I mean shit like the name and design. "Switch" is a name that sticks, unlike "Wii U" which just sounds like a cheap addon to the Wii.
Besides, just because you don't see the advertising doesn't mean it isn't there. They're also doing viral marketing nowadays (this thread and >>377232885 are great examples, it's probably even worse over at reddit)

>>377257467
>muh viral

lol. WiiU didn't make any sales because it looked like a pile of shit.

>>377257572
Claiming the Wii U was shit and that the Switch is a completely new and different thing is also a tactic used by marketers. Notice how it only really started happening after the wii u got its final game, before that nobody even mentioned it.

>>377257293
Jim? Do you have some computer time while your wife is cucking you?

>>377252441
The Wii U was failing by January. The Switch is still going strong two and a half months later.

>>377255113
It would've sold significantly more then that if they had more stock. It's still being sold out everywhere and it's not even the holiday season yet.

>>377258182
Because they shipped only 10% in April that they shipped in March. Artificial scarcity 101

>>377257424
Stupid, dumb, frog poster.

SWITCH HAS ONEGAEMS

>>377252441
The first article is after release of the switch
The second is based on pre orders only
Nice try though loser

>>377255113
You mean it's March sales are. Switch sold 2.7 million units in March. In April it sold another 300k in the US, another 250k in Japan, and that's not even counting Europe.

>>377258609

Yeah, let's pretend that the stock isn't purposefully deflated as yet another marketing gimmick. How come no other company has ever had this problem when Nintendo has had it 3 times? Is Nintendo just a special kind of retarded? ... okay, yeah, disregard my post.

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>>377257293

>>377259015
>Le aritifical scarcity
They spent triple on shipping to ship them by plane for a few weeks. They're producing as fast as possible

Because Nintendo use scarcity to sell their systems since the DS/Wii

I've still never even seen a Switch for sale in any stores around, thats how small the shipping numbers are.

>>377259647
Prove they're using artifical scarcity with the switch

The bottom line is that anyone who is trying to say whether or not the Switch is failing is a moron that doesn't understand how this scene works. It will be at least 6 months before we have a vague idea. 1 year before we have a good feel for things. And 2 years before we know for sure.

This is not exactly the first system launch ever, people. Stop acting like you don't know how this shit works.

>>377259015
>Artificial Scarcity
My favorite meme

>>377250183
Details on hacking a wiiu? I've been thinkin of buying a console off eBay. I can store full wiiu games on the HDD? What about classics?

>>377259716

Prove Nintendo themselves aren't buying half of them. What? It's common sense that they aren't?

So, how does that not work for disproving artificial scarcity when Occam's Razor says artificial scarcity is more likely than Nintendo being retards with supply 3 times in a row?

It's pretty stupid when people make ridiculous demands for citations, eh?

>>377249423
>>377254156
The Wii U's dropoff wasn't after a year, it was after 2 months. Once the holiday ended, it sold like shit in January, around 60k units. For comparison the Switch just sold 280k in its second month.

The switch has sold more in 2 months than the wii u did in 6 months, without a holiday, and while being supply constrained. At this point Wii U comparisons are pretty groundless.

>>377259956

WiiU games are easy. Just requires a WiiU and an SD card. They can be stored on a USB HDD. Wii/GC games are more complicated because they have to run under the virtual Wii OS on the WiiU and it causes some issues with the HDD constrantly trying to reformat itself. There's workarounds, but the whole thing is 3x more complicated.

Point being, hacking the WiiU main OS, WiiU games, and virtual console games are easy peasy.

My name is Ben and I work at NOA

During Lunch, a few buddies of mine in the same department have mentioned they make /v/ threads like these in order to market the Switch in an unfashionable way.

Dillon, stop these threads.
Greg, stop these threads.

Switch will do fine but you making these threads makes our company look bad.

Thanks.

>>377260231
>The Wii U's dropoff wasn't after a year, it was after 2 months.

he specifically said that 2012 was for the 4th quart only - the last 2 months. and the next year, it held steady. is it that hard to read a column of numbers? wow.

>>377260231
>The switch has sold more in 2 months than the wii u did in 6 months,

factually wrong. period. no reason to say anything else.

>>377260454
KEK

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>>377253538
>this image shows the switch is only getting better than the ps4 as time goes on
>nintendo wojak is crying

>>377260483
>he specifically said that 2012 was for the 4th quart only - the last 2 months. and the next year, it held steady.
And I'm saying the dropoff was post launch. You don't think selling only .45m more units with 10+ extra months constitutes a dropoff? Demand for the Wii U flatlined after the holidays ended, in every region. The switch, by comparison, has experienced no such drop.

>factually wrong. period. no reason to say anything else.
You're right, I'm sorry. The switch actually sold 1k fewer units in 2 months than the Wii U did in 6 months (1186k vs 1187k), I read the numbers backwards. Pls forgive me.

Console wars.

God i hate humans.

>>377260980
>1186k vs 1187k
Neither of those numbers are correct. The Switch sold 2.74mil in March alone, and the Wii U sold ~3.5mil in 6 months.

>>377261201
Sorry, forgot to specify those are US numbers.

>>377259949
They shipped 2.75 million in March
They shipped less than 1 million in April
So yeah

>>377261860
>they shipped less than 1 million
Yeah, in Japan you stupid fuck

>>377257293
I literally had never heard of HZD until I started browsing 4chan in December

>>377261201
>the Wii U sold ~3.5mil in 6 months.
It sold over 3 million in 6 weeks. That's the part you're leaving out. Every Nintendo console is popular at launch because there are millions of drones.

Usually drones wait to buy until the system has more games worth playing (Wii U launched with NSMBU for fuck's sake), but in this case the system already launched with BotW which is seen as a system seller, something that is really rare for a console to have at launch. Initial demand is thus slightly higher than normal, but absolutely nothing else unusual is happening

>>377261860
The Wii U shipped 3.06 million in a month and a half during the holiday season. Between new year's and the first of April they shipped 390k worldwide.

>>377262039
http://nintendoeverything.com/april-2017-npd-switch-sells-over-280000-units-mario-kart-8-deluxe-more-than-550000-copies/

280k units in North America. About 200k units in Japan. And an estimated 250k units across the rest of the world. = 730k units shipped in April, or 3.47 million units shipped globally since launch. Not counting any shipped in May obviously

>>377262170
The unusual bit is that the Wii U launched in the middle of November and the Switch launched at the beginning of March and got similar sales without the holiday bump. That's pretty massive.

>>377262419
3DS also launched in March and the Switch has yet to outsell it, though it is trending slightly above at the moment

I really think time of year is irrelevant. People don't buy these as gifts, they get them for themselves

>>377249289
>tried it out for the first time
>it was actually really cool
>actually have the money for it now
>STILL sold out everywhere

i'm almost starting to believe in the artificial sacrility or whatever theory, this is bullshit.

>>377262727
People buy them as gifts for the family. Console sales are always higher in the holiday season. Hell, EVERYTHING sells better in the holiday season.

>>377249289
Reminder that if you bought a launch Switch you have a defective product.

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>>377262836
Except the demographics are consistently proving that's not the case. Nintendo's primary demographic is the nostalgic manchild who hasn't grown out of their childhood yet. Wii's numbers looked totally different than this. In fact, more women bought a Wii than men, which solidifies the case that Switch is not another Wii but looks far more like another Wii U, judging by the people who are interested in it

>>377262765
They said they're doubling production, but the effects of that take a while to actually show up on store shelves. I'd guess we'll see the extra units in June or July.

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>>377263156
Except sales patterns have that being the case. The only time the Wii U's sales numbers spiked was during the holiday quarter. The citations for each row is a Nintendo quarterly earnings report.

>>377263156
Are you still talking about the 3DS? Because the 3DS absolutely was widely purchased for christmas gifts, and had a large player base of young children. The key factor here is the price. The Switch is a $300 toy with a bigass easily broken display. The 3DS is child proof and starts at $80 retail. It's very easy to see why children aren't getting Switches, especially in its fdirst two month.

>>377249289
Nintenbros will buy anything.

>>377263156
>Fine print
Hmm, isn't this just a graph of which demographics are likely to respond to email surveys?

>>377250138
W-WELL, I'LL BE RIGHT THIS TIME!!! YOU'LL ALL SEE! EVERYONE WILL SEE THAT NINTENDO IS FOR BABIES AND THAT MY TASTE IS BETTER THAN YOURS!!!!!

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>>377263569
Holidays undoubtedly have an effect but I don't think it's as large as the initial launch. Anyway you're entire argument that the Switch has performed similarly to Wii U despite it not being the holidays is, I think, irrelevant because of the 3DS demonstrating that Nintendo has had just as large openings in March before. It seems like launch hype trumps time of year, because the people most interested in buying a brand new console with relatively few games are the biggest fans who don't care about time of year.

>>377263601
3DS is hugely different than the Wii U, yes. 3DS is part of Nintendo's handheld line which has always had much better mass appeal than its consoles have, because they've historically been cheap devices that are perfect gifts for children. The Switch is anything but that, as you pointed out yourself, which explains why the demographics look entirely different.

Switch's and Wii U's demographics are remarkably similar, which gives you an idea of the type of person who has bought and is interested in the Switch. BotW's Wii U sales numbers themself indicate that most Switch owners are Wii U owners who upgraded

Switch has a long, long way to go to even outsell the Wii U's lifetime sales figures. At 3.5 million, it has about 10 million left to even reach that much. Imagine if you will that the Wii U launched with a game like BotW instead of NSMBU. People who held out buying one for 2-3 years would probably have gotten one sooner rather than waiting. But I doubt it would have affected it in the long term. It just means the fans buy it sooner rather than waiting, and then you get a dramatic drop in demand when no one else wants one.

I'll be interested to see if Nintendo updates their demographic information, because right now, it looks bad. The manchild demographic is small. About 13.5 million small, I'd say.

>>377253708
He's a /v/ shitposter. Of course he doesn't.

>>377259716

I've worked in games retail, I've never seen such limited numbers as this Switch launch. It's absurd, you should be sending more than 2 or 3 units to a store each month. But I get it, Nintendo have to play it careful, they've had a lot of flops lately.

>>377264218
The 3DS comparison is only favorable you know. The 3DS flagged during the year but completely killed it during the holidays.

>>377264218
I personally think the WIi U failed because it's just an unappealing concept. Forget all its other flaws, like the ancient hardware, shit online, bloated featureless OS, tiny internal storage, and lack of differentiation from the Wii brand. People just didn't want that bulky tablet device tethered to a mains-powered console with a 20 foot range.
The Switch is a gimmick people actually seem to want. It's not even really a gimmick, the "switch" idea is accomplished just by making a really powerful handheld.

>>377249289
legit don't give a fuck about the switch until i get a proper monster hunter game for it and some games that aren't all strictly nintendo ips. though i find it annoying that the fucking thing is still sold out in my area.

>>377264678
Coming from an early adopter, you absolutely should wait. The first year lineup is one of the better ones I've seen in a long time but it's still just Zelda, Mario Kart, ARMS, Splatoon, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (lol 2017 I'll believe it when I see it), Fire Emblem Warriors, and then Super Mario Odyssey until we learn more at E3. If you're like me and really only like a few genres the Switch isn't the system for you until its library fills out a bit. The 3DS was the same way. I'd recommend it now for sure but even in 2013 I wouldn't have recommended it.

I'm personally happy with my purchase since BotW is a great game and Disgaea 5 on handheld is a major treat, but I'm easy to please.

>>377264597
>The Switch is a gimmick people actually seem to want. It's not even really a gimmick, the "switch" idea is accomplished just by making a really powerful handheld.
I agree. I see the Switch as a powerful handheld that happens to have TV output functionality. That's still something I don't really want, but at least it resembles something that's actually video game hardware. This might actually come to its detriment, since the DS and Wii were big hits for hitting outside of the "core gamer" demographic