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What are some of the worst examples of character redesigns in vidya?

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What are some of the worst examples of character redesigns in vidya?
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>>377247264
Pic unrelated, nostalgiafag.
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7' 11" vs 8' 0"
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>>377247264
That is not a redesign, those are primaris marines,
a new unit.
Pick realted is a redisgn.
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>>377247486
Yeah, you win.
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>>377247264
Okay I follow WH40K a lot but what the fuck is up with this? Are the ultramarines basic bitch marines getting replaced or something?
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>>377248973
It turns out Gulliman had a secret back up plan for when shit hit the fan where he got some 10,000 year old ArchMagos on Mars to take a bunch of the geneseed tithes to make LEGIONS of Space Marines 2.0 decked out in better armor which he is now sending to all loyalists chapters to bolster them in the face of the massive chaos incursion currently occurring fucking everywhere.
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>>377249305
WHAT THE FUCK NIGGER?

How is this shit gonna fly. So the Marines are just going to be outright stupidly super powered lore-wise now? They already basically killed the Eldar off
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>>377249562
Chaos is gonna be buffed heavily soon iirc
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>>377249562
Don't worry Gulliman has made an alliance with Vects ex-wife and they are using each other, Gulliman with his super soldiers, and her with her Psychic powers and knowledge of the webway, to defeat Chaos once and for all.

Also she might own Roboute's soul now I guess? I don't remember exactly what that was all about.
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>>377247264
How can marinelets even compete?

I wish GW would show us more Death Guard stuff already, Speesh Muhreens are boring as shit
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>>377249305
I hope the tau get an upgrade as well, like means to traverse the immaterium or some shit.
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This whole clusterfuck.
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>>377248175
Aw shit, is there a new video?
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>>377250265
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So whats the deal with Primaris Marines?

What makes them different from standard SPESSH MEHRINES
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>Came in to post Spyro

>>377247486
Damn anon,you were fast.
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>>377250414
They're bigger and moar powerful. And have a racing stripe so they can run faster.
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>>377250494
So basically just slightly bigger SPESSH MEHRINES so that Games Workshop can jew their customers over a little bit more plastic
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>>377250843
No.
Players wanted "true scale" marines for last 10 years.
GW makes them finally, and makes up some story as to why they are bigger (true-scale)
Everyone is mad GW did what they asked for.
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>>377248223
That's not a redesign either. Bobby G was given new armor.
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>>377250358
I want to see Rogal play a children's card game
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>>377250414
One extra wound (ie double the life) and a longer ranged, better armor piercing bolter (called a bolt rifle). This comes at the cost of higher points and less loadout flexibility.
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>>377250614
I miss the old mongoloid monobrow terrans.
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>>377247264
>salty grognards are now trying to infect /v/ since they were completely blown the fuck out on /tg/
mods are useless it seems.
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>>377250843
it's literally truescale marines you fucking /v/ermin, they don't replace standard marines, and you can literally use them as regular marines whenever you damn well please.
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>>377250494
>>377250843
>>377249562
SPESS mahreens were already OP mary sue pieces of shit anyway, what the fuckkkk
STOP RUINING MY FAVORITE SCI FI UNIVERSE GW REEEEEEEEE
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>>377252402
>t. Eldarnigger
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>>377250924
missing raita's "good job" on Valkyria Chronicles
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ITT
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>>377248223
Well if it isn't ROWBOAT GIRLYMAN.
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>>377251158
rogal would omly play a monogreen grizzly bear only deck anon
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Guess all we need now is for Leman Russ to show up out of nowhere and they gang will be back together. Corvax too I guess, that fruit.
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>>377253336
Leman Russ is a stupid nigger that turned Magnus traitor
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Did the GW jews finally admit this is 40K End Times?
Are they just gonna let Chaos win again?
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>>377253456
t. Magnus
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>>377253456
Magnus being a retarded idiot/big faggot nerd and Big E spanking him cause he fucked up his fancy webway is what turned him traitor.
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>>377249305
>sending to all loyalists chapters

Even the Space Wolves? I thought Girlyman hated the space wolves.
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>>377252563
It's hard to believe that the original Mike Dawson could go lower, but we got there.
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>>377253541
>ay Leman the emprah told me to tell you to liteally kill magnus and wipe out his entire legion
>t. Horus
>well i better take such a serious order at face value and not check with dad
>why would Horus ever lie?
>destroys prospero and forces Magnus to turn traitor to save himself + legion
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW WHY IS MAGNUS TRAITOR
>10,000 years later Fenris gets genocided
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How fucked are the Blood Angels?
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>>377253838
>stuck on shitty side of galaxy
>currently dealing with tyranid memefleet
fucked but not squatted/10
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>>377253838

Fucked but they will pull through. And they will be the heralds of the Western Roman Empire of the Imperium. IE the cooler one
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>>377252402
>SPESS mahreens were already OP mary sue pieces of shit anyway, what the fuckkkk
They're cannon fodder on the table top, though.
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>>377247264
for a redesign to be truly bad, the original design has to be good in the first place
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>>377253718
Where did you get that idea from? Roboute was one of Russ' go to Space Marine allies and vice versa during the Great Crusade since the Ultramarines Legion's size and general skillset matched well with the Wolves small and specialized tactics.
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>>377253152
ROWBOAT GIRLYMAN FROM ULTRAMAN I'D HIT IT
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>>377253504
Nah, if anything they're preserving the status quo. It would take a serious dip in sales for anything like end times to happen, and they've been posting good numbers for the last couple of years.
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>>377247264
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>>377254618
careful
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>>377254731
I don't see how the status quo can even remain the same after all this? Unless some fucker hits a big reset button or something really shitty like that things aren't gonna be exactly the same after this is done.
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>>377255091
>I don't see how the status quo can even remain the same after all this?
Abbadon gets his arse kicked, but he escape to the Warp (again).
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>>377253456
magnus was a traitor the moment he started using sorcery
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>>377255091
>I don't see how the status quo can even remain the same after all this?
So, everyone is at war constantly and the entire galaxy is in constant conflict. How is that a change?
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ROBOOF GANGLYMUNG YOU CAN'T HAVE MARINES TWO SCOOPS HIGHER THAN REGULAR MARINES
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>>377255251
t. Leman
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>>377254218
He's probably talking about the lore. TT obviously sacrifices or sidesteps some details for the sake of balance.
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>>377255563
fuck off no one cares about your stupid forced memes
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>>377255252
Cadia and Creed are fucking gone nigga, Spess Mreen chapters are getting assfucked and overall Chaos is poised for a victory which means either GW is really gonna go the same route as End Times and let them win and start over or something has to knock shit back into balance
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>>377255640
there's a difference between sorcery and psykers, plus the moment you use sorcery your fate is controlled by tzeentch
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>>377255794
>creed is gone
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>>377251890
but that looks kickass
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>>377250254
fucking this
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>>377255924
he's been captured in a necron pokeball, he'll be back
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>>377254359
It was a fantastic design, made to be customisable with as much or as little fine detail as any painter, artist, or writer felt like. It looked good for rabid space vikings, stoic roman proxies, pseudo-vampiric dark mirrors of christianity, and guys who liked reptiles and fire. Once you see the standard faceplate you never forget it, you never forget the pauldrons, or the aquilla on the chest when it's there.

Honestly compare it to more generic sci-fi armour designs. Compare it to master chief. A space marine is a space marine, put that in your original work you're breaking the law, but masterchief is so simultaneously over-designed and generic that you could use him, almost trace him into anything and as long as you tack some new lore on your plagiarism no one will be able to prove you stole it.
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>>377253718
Not, you're probably thinking of Magnus.
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>>377255794
They needed to throw a monkey wrench in there to level things, Chaos was a joke before this and posed no threat compared to the other factions, even if they were predicted to win in the end. I don't think this is going to result in some sigmar-level faggotry.
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>>377247264
It was kind of inevitable. Truescale marines are inevitable after years and years of scale creep, but how are they supposed to introduce them?

Just say they're new models for space marines with the same statline and fluff and almost all your customers will throw a shitfit because their collections become indirectly invalid and phased out.
Introduce them as a new entity with new rules and fluff and almost all your customers will throw a shitfit because of the absurdly stupid plot contrivances and implications necessary for them to work.

It's a lose-lose situation, when all GW wants to do is make pretty models.
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>>377250254
As weird as it is, I've heard it's actually selling really well.
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>>377256104
He'll scout a Titan into the ball and walk out.
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>>377256358
it's selling better than WHFB did
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>>377256375
>tfw
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>>377256358
>replacing the entire lore and faction with medieval marines vs chaos medieval marines
>not selling well
nigga they literally made it for the money. Of course it's gonna sell well. the thing is AoS was a dick-slap in the face to all WH Fantasy players
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Everything is a shitty redesign compared to the original rogue trader space marines.
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>>377256732
Yeah but nobody gave a shit about WH Fantasy, nobody liked it until it was killed off then suddenly fans came out the woodwork
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>>377256732
Alienating the original playerbase in an attempt to draw in new players isn't usually a good idea. But if it sells well despite that, it's kinda impressive.
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>>377256346

As long as there aren't alternative plans with the smurfs getting more influence among the chapters I'm fine with it.

>>377256145

The backstory of the Adeptus Astartes (going to refer to them as such since space marine will just refer to generic space marines) is actually one of their best assets I find. While the Spartans rip it off most space marines are just that - marines in space with armor. Terrans, TR or new Conglomerate, your dime a dozen sci-fi stuff.

Adeptus Astartes capture the whole warrior monastic business with a good measure of horrifying indoctrination and body-modification. The helmet like you say is really iconic with the grill. I prefer beakies and I think they are iconic too, but your old school rogue trader space marines would just be lost in the haze of space marines.

>>377256927

It seems like it's doing great as a video game product, wasn't doing so good as a tabletop. I can't speak to it since I don't do tabletop but just for future vidya I would have liked keeping the fantasy world but introducing sigmarines within it.
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>>377248223
>>377248175
>>377247264
What did GW do now?
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>>377256732
>AoS was a dick-slap in the face to all WH Fantasy players
I'm feel bad for all 30 of them.
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>>377256759
Looks like a fat guy with a saxophone.
Why does rogue trader have no decent illustrations?
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>>377256927
>fans didn't feel the need to scream and shout about how much they like a game/setting until the company in charge decided to kill it as hard as humanly possible
gee, what a surprise
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>>377257069

What GW does best
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>>377255563
>2scoop
OYVEY!!!
2SCOOP!!!
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>>377257251
Holy shit! merchantMIND
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>>377257057

meant to add I don't know the numbers but WarhamTW, the boat man of war game and Vermintide seem well received compared to forgettable space hulk, shit on DOW3, shit on Eternal crusade.

>>377257069
Rowbot Gullyman resurrected by Ynnari and the pope of the Adeptus Mechanicus. Ynnari is an Eldar girl leading the new Eldar faction worshipping the newly born Eldar god of the dead, and is Gullyman's waifu.

Gullyman activated a process either that adeptus pope or someone else started way back during the Heresy and was working on all this time. It's far as I understand basically clone/vat grown space marines with the geneseeds of the Loyalist Primarchs.

They are Primaris Marines. Taller, new and highest grade armor (mk X I think), they are being sent out to chapters who have been devastated or near eradicated by the expansion of the warp (Gork's grin among other terms, check the new 40k map the galaxy is basically cut in two by an expanded eye of chaos). Some chapters welcome it, some are suspicious.

Cadia fell and one thing said it exploded another said it still exists in some physical form. Cadian guardsmen held out longer than the planet did.

Creed is captured by the Museum Curator Necron.
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>>377256346
Mutation. In. Geneseed.

It's already a conceit of 40K that similar mutations can emerge across the galaxy at the same time at a similar rate, that's where psychics are coming from.

Just have it be an increasingly common geneseed mutation for marines to be bigger. You could even tie this into themes of degeneracy over time, which 40K used to be about, by the bigger marines having some problems and malfunctioning organs that older ones don't, while still being equal in actual battle. It's a malfunction, and it carries the ominous threat that geneseed might one day break down and not work anymore across the galaxy, but for now they're just a bit bigger really.

Although both scenarios carry the same problem.

If the Primaris marines are the size the old marines were always meant to be in relation to human models, and they're, in lore, meant to be taller than old marines in proportion to the differences in model size, that means that one of two things must be wrong with the models. Either:

a)The Humans are too big

or

b)Both old and new marines are too small.
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>Cadia is kill
>Creed is in Trazyn's necron Pokeball
>Abaddon is on the warpath again and Angron is gonna join soon
>Fenris yiffs in hell now
>Rowboat Gorillaman is back and is leading the Imperium
>Eldar are working with humans again
>Cypher is loose on terra and the Dark Angels are pretty much confirmed to be traitors
>Lion'El is being healed by Watcher jizz under The Rock and will come back
>Leman Russ is gonna return from the warp as well

This is either going to be amazing or an End Times-tier shitshow.
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>>377257081
you just have bad taste if you don't like the wil rees illustrations.
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>>377257668
>This is either going to be amazing or an End Times-tier shitshow.

it's GW what the hell do you think it's gonna be
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>>377257583

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/a-new-breed-of-hero-may15gw-homepage-post-1/ - Primaris Marines

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/primaris-space-marines-faq-may15gw-homepage-post-2/ - Primaris FAQ

North is I think the 'dark imperium'. Right now that just is referring to folks having to deal with the shitshow that is going on without Rowboat and the good stable stuff south of the warp cleavage. Tyranid fleets and other stuff. Blood Angels are up shit creek without a paddle, Space wolves lost their homeland.

What >>377257668 said.

Also BRING BACK MY NIGGA VULKAN.
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>>377252563
It warms my heart to finally meet other entities that know about darkseed
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>>377257736

John Blanche > All
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>>377257896
They've been trying to course correct after so many blunders

But even then, chances are high they're gonna shit their pants in the end
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>>377257613
It's b), they haven't dare to update the scale of marines until now, probably as a result of the new CEO
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>>377250924
Man bomberman got into some serious crack cocaine addiction
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>>377250924
The fuck happened to Simon Belmont
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>>377250924
what the FUCK is that ike
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>GW
>"hey how can we raise the stakes?"
>"how about primaris space marines?"
>"what?"
>"yeah they're like space marines but a bit bigger and stronger"

yeah and next they'll introduce the corks, they're like orks but REALLY green and a bit more violent
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>>377249305
That's....intradesting. holy shit
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>>377250924
We're hitting levels of JUST that shouldnt be possible.
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>>377258728
Judgement happened

>tfw there are some sctual cool designs but they butchered the character for it
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>>377257668
>Cypher is loose on terra and the Dark Angels are pretty much confirmed to be traitors
Is he going to ressurect big e?
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>>377250924
Max Payne just got balder and older.
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>>377258894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_wXCBDiLEA
It's going to be a wild ride.
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>>377250614
>b-but he was a alcoholic waste of depression
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>>377258867
>Introducing Black Orks, led by Blimgor Blironhide
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>>377258867
>Greener orks

You fool you don't know what you're doing.
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>>377250924
What the fuck happened to the fire emblem guy and his arms and legs
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>>377259095
I'm so glad we're going down this route though. I didn't want everything to be in the hands of the emperor, and reginald guillotine is doing great as his son so far, to unite the space marines and to eradicate the bloat
cant wait to see the highlords of terra get blown the fuck out
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>>377259380
He got edgier.
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How do people keep up with this shit?
I wanted to get into 40K, i watched 3 20-something minute videos by some guy talking about old ones and eldar and necros and shit, and TWO 1 and a half hour videos about the imperium of man and the horus heresy in preparation for starting up Dawn of War 1
I got the gist of it and i know the basics but i dont even undertand half of the shit said in this thread.

How the fuck do i understand what is going on. Is is really just wiki-reading? where does this stuff come from?

Pls help i really want to like 40K.
Also why the fuck do they use swords i never got that, it seems retarded
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>primaris space marines have a super pure geneseed without the flaws of other chapters
>most chapters are taking these new guys into their ranks

RIP black salamanders,
the chapter is gonna be full of white guys now
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>it's another "Warhammer fans get mad about redesigns even though the new ones are always far more detailed and better looking"
The online Warhammer community is honest to god one of the worst.
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>>377259039
We don't know yet. He has a sword that gives people nightmares/makes them relieve the destruction of Caliban and asked Girlyman to take him to the Emperor's throne room in exchange for freeing him from the Red Corsairs and pardoning the Fallen.

Gilletteman recognized the sword and arrested him when they got on Terra, but he escaped. He's probably either gonna kill the Emperor so he'd resurrect into a Chaos God of Humanity and save the galaxy or, knowing GW, he's gonna do something extremely lame such as using the sword to reveal that Dark Angels were traitors in front of the Emperor, which is something we've known for 20 years.
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>>377249562
They kind of have to be stupidly super powered now, the Eye of Terror tore open and practically split the galaxy in two, shits going bad REAL FAST and the Imperium needs to get stronger to stand up to the increasing danger.
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>>377257668
>>377257896
fuck off retards
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>>377259505
>Though they are a step removed from their brothers, the Primaris Space Marines still bear the gene-seed of their Primarchs, and some dissenting voices worry how this new type of warrior will react with the known genetic quirks and flaws of some of the more unusual Chapters…
Expect even darker Salamanders.
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>>377259763
oh shit
something good may come of this after all
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>>377259095
INDOMITUS CRUSADE
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SUTIMODNI
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>>377259763
>superdark salamanders
HAHA TIME FOR VANTABLACK
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I actually like the new lore tbph famalam.

I like the new marine designs, and it's not like they are just going to magically replace all the old marines overnight. It's just most the new Space Marines getting made will be primaris marines or whatever they are called. Plus, it does open the door for interesting tension and conflict between oldfag marines and newfag marines.

Besides, let's be honest. The story needed to progress somehow and people would bitch no matter how they did it. Just look at nu necrons. In hindsight, the newcrons are much more interesting than the old ones but it doesn't stop people from autistically screeching about it.
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>>377259482
Lexicanum is the best way, but it takes a bit of prior knowledge. Any knowledge is good except from 4dchan, that's all jokes that require lore knowledge.

And they use swords because 40k is what happens when you make Warhammer Fantasy but in SPAAAAAACCCEEEE
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>No Skitarii love
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>>377259936
>Dark voids in power armor
Now that's scary.
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>>377260030
I'm in agreement, I've liked the newcrons from the start, although bias speaking I always wanted them to have a bit more personality
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>>377259529
You described every fanbase, it's just that the WH40K is one of the oldest around. Wait twenty more years and see a bunch of 60 years old coots still bitching about how the new Smash is not like Meelee.
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So how long until the other living Primarchs show up?
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>>377257081
Because you're a wapanese idiot with no sense of style.
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>>377259482
I got into 40k by solely reading about Orks, since thats all I cared about. Eventually my knowledge expanded to accommodate the majority of what 40k is about. it's not that hard, you just find something that interests you, start reading about it, and eventually you'll be lead around by that till you have a grasp of the universe
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>>377259936
https://youtu.be/BkGHwrq2Eho?t=65
by the emperor
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>>377260119
Fuck you, they costed me my winning streak with Shadow Wars.

Then again, I rolled for my immortal and it now has Sustained Fire AND Marksmen.
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>>377260030
There's better ways to do it than outright pulling new marines out of their ass just to sell minis

>An expedition has found a Standard Template Construct in the bowels of Mars that allows us to create an improved version of the space marine power armor/improve the geneseed used to create space marines

There, it's that simple.
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>>377257108
They also didn't feel the need to buy figurines, which prompted the reboot.
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>>377259202

> Black Orks, led by Blimgor Blironhide

You mean Space Orruk Ironjaw Ardboyz right?

Can't have names we can't copyright.
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>>377260283
Probably soon. Girlyman is good at being in charge, but even a Primarch is hard pressed to run both the empire and lead the armies, so likely another Primarch will return soon and possibly take over leading the forces of man while Rowboat returns to Terra to begin reworking the Imperium
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>>377258036
DS2 > 1
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>>377254861
The right one look far better really.
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>>377260642
>while Rowboat returns to Terra to begin reworking the Imperium
Please this. I want to see the highlords of terra crushed underneath his boots.
>you're not allowed to have primarchs,stupid beak- I mean, space marines
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>>377260439
well if they weren't a bunch of jews charging out the ass for their forge world models that wouldn't have happened
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>These Tau Changes
>The New Space Marines
>Fucking Eldar Changes

NECRON FACTION SPOTLIGHT WHEN? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO THE METAL SKELES
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>>377260642
It'll either be Leman Russ or Lion'El Johnson (Or both). Lion'El almost became the Warmaster, afterall.
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>>377260912
>>377260642
Vulkan is a eternal and GW can just make him show up with no explanation
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>>377260834
>well if they weren't a bunch of jews charging out the ass for their forge world models
That's besides the point, they've always been exactly that.
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>>377260709
I agree 100%, DS2 with commentary from slowbeef and diabeetus is my final form
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>>377247264

But that suit looks way fucking better
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>>377260814
Not gonna happen, he already accepted the ecclesiarchy as a necessary evil.
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>>377260814
Guilliman is an actual politician and had his own empire long before the Emperor ever found him. Hes far more suited to be an emperor than Big E ever was, simply because he understood how to talk to people instead of being a faggot who just goes my way or death. He won't kill the High lords of Terra
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>>377260642
>>377260283
Chances are however this story concludes will have Girlyman either dying or 'disappearing' and the Imperium staying the same so as to not rock the boat too much with the fans.
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>>377261169
The tears from Ultrasmurf fans would be legendary.
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>>377261059
but there lore is nigger shit stupid
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>>377261014
>That's besides the point

no it isn't, it's the reason sales dropped

"they've always been jews" isn't an excuse to the people who stopped buying their overpriced arguably same quality models
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>>377261090
Because he is busy trying to fight the enemies. Relieve him of his need to lead the armies and he probably wont kill the High Lords, but he will likely take control away from them
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>>377261416

t. manlet marine
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>>377260848
I want my fucking Ork updates. I wanna see how the Orks are keeping up in this crazy new world

I wanna see fucking Tuska show up with his infinite army of Boyz
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>>377261090
>he already accepted the ecclesiarchy as a necessary evil.
Well, they have their uses, I admit that, and the SoB show remarkable powers
>>377261118
>He won't kill the High lords of Terra
I don't know, he'll coerce them in a way where theres more leniance/transparency, I hope
Those guys are career politicians who started off with the right idea but got bloated over time, no fault of malcador.
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>>377261014
Maybe because "they've always been exactly like that" is why the sales dropped.
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>>377247264
>Primaris Space Marines have been genetically altered by Archmagos Dominus Belisarius Cawl to be bigger, faster and stronger than their Space Marine brethren

Corax "died" for nothing
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>>377261685
Corax needed to gitgud. ;_;
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>>377257668
>Leman Russ is gonna return from the warp as well

Can't wait.
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>>377261603
He kicked out some of the High Lords and replaced them with his guys.
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>>377261461
Of course it is, they're not going to stop selling overpriced figurines. And the scheme worked, and their sales went up.
Also you have to be mildly retarded to even watch that ridiculous autist faggot, much less make gifs of him. Get your shit together.
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>>377259621
>Dark Angels were traitors

please explain? i've never heard this
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>>377261851
That's more like it
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>>377261090

So, what's the name of the book where Roberto Guruguruman wakes up? I would like to read how disgust he was with the empire when he first woke up.
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>>377261489
>Relieve him of his need to lead the armies
In the grim darkness of the dark future, there is only war.
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>>377261638
Or because nobody cared about Warhammer Fantasy. They made people care again with their shitty reboot.
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OP it's not a re-design, the other Space Marine types are still around and still make up the bulk of Space Marine forces.

The Space Marine you are probably most familiar with is a re-desgn of a model that came before it, ie, the "Bird-Beak" helmet Marines. Pic related, it's what Space Marines first looked like.
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>>377259621
>He's probably either gonna kill the Emperor so he'd resurrect into a Chaos God of Humanity and save the galaxy or
YES
> he's gonna do something extremely lame such as using the sword to reveal that Dark Angels were traitors in front of the Emperor, which is something we've known for 20 years.

Doesn't the emperor know this anyway?

>My lord, I have come far and have braved many a dangerous worlds to deliver you this message, you see, the dark angels are corru-
>I know.
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>>377253456
He's also a complete moron.
> Hey let's go charging into a warp storm and get lost for 10,000 years!
>But sir, the Imperium is facing it's darkest hour since the Men of Iron and it could use strong leaders to shepherd it through the coming darkness
>LOL 4 HONOR AND VALHALLA MUH BRUTHAS!
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>>377261889
Is old theory that the Lion was waiting who would win in the HH and that most of the Fallen were actually pro-Emps. We do know that Cypher hates Abbadon and in the tabletop he have the "know no fear" rule like the loyalist marines.
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>>377247486
Until Sonic Boom Spyro was even more JUST than Sonic
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>>377261928
Garthering Storm 3.
1 is about Cadia and 2 is about Ynnead.
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>>377250924
>Samus
>redesign
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>>377260848
Tau Changes?
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>>377262219

Thank you my fellow loyalist... because you are a loyalist like me, right?
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>>377262262
Don't know much, except they got more shooty and some of them got lost in the Warp
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Wait, a space marine has an eldar waifu?

I mean they're cute but that's not very tactical
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I vividly remember this scene and I specifically remember Raynor saying he was gonna kill that cunt.

Then SC2 rolls around and he doesn't kill that cunt. It's like blizzard only remembered what money is and forgot everything else.
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>>377262365
>>377261928
Here's the page.
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>>377262090
That is literally what nearly all the Loyal Primarchs did though. Unless you're like Gulliman and got ganked by a literal faggot like Fulgrim. Going out the permanently destroy the armies of the Traitor legions is hardly a pointless quest.
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>>377262383
>Tau finally interacting with the warp
What could go wrong.
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>>377261928
If you just look at Rowboat Girlymans page on the Wh40k wiki, it has pretty much the entire story of his resurrection copy pastad straight from the book, word for word, verbatim.

Lazy cunts.
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>>377262365
GREEN IZ BEST!

>>377262409
Nah, but Guilliman and Yvraine sounded a bit too close (which for 40K standars it means they did not backstab each other) so /tg/ began to say that was Love Can Bloom: Ultramarine Edition.
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>>377250924
I thought Max Payne's older look was more appropriate, to be honest. Alcoholics don't look like fucking Archer.
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>>377261118

https://youtu.be/0Vh_N8CpcL0?t=15m23s
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>>377261118
>Hes far more suited to be an emperor than Big E ever was

Sounds like some top tier heresy to me.
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>>377250924

WHAT DID THEY DO TO KLONOA?!
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>>377256375
Why not scout the necrons into the path of the nids?
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Lara Crofts post PS1 looks.
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Girlyman is alive?
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>>377247264
>""bad""
Papa Smurf is back, and he and his homies are pissed.
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>>377263181
some Eldar slut cast resurrection on him
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>>377257057
>It seems like it's doing great as a video game product, wasn't doing so good as a tabletop.
Funnily enough, Warhammer 40k was dying out too until Dawn of War 1 came around to save it.
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>>377263181
Yes.

Cadia also got BTFO.
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>>377260642
>Rowboat can't be in more than one place at a time
>so he creates 20 sons to lead his Primaris marines while he retreats to Macragge to run the Ultramar system
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>>377262692

Well, to be fair if you don't backstab someone on 40k then chances are you do love them ya git
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>they're as large as terminators
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>>377263181
Plots been going crazy recently.

Cadia got killed
Entire galactic north is gone to hell
Cyphers on Terra
Commoragh got fucked up
Eldar are uniting into one race again for Ynnead
Primarchs are coming back, starting with Papa Smurf
He brought back the legions and had a first founding for his Marines 2.0
Some Necrons helped fight chaos in the siege of Cadia, lets see if they join this alliance of Imperium and Eldar.
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Memeing aside, these guys are exclusive to Smurfs because Papa Smurf is back right? I can't imagine other chapters are going to be cool with this, I mean it's one thing for the Twilight Chapter to keep their Baal pattern, but Super Marines is going to be a shitshow I feel like.

Haven't been keeping up with the lore very much lately, only the big news I catch wind of like this. Is this already happening?
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>>377262878

It's true though, the Emperor is just a super powered dick, and the more they delve into his character in novels and books the more retarded he turns out to be.
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>The Ynnead or new Eldar god of death can only be made complete when all of the infinity circuits are complete with the soulstones of the eldar race, a grim but solemn reality for a doomed species
>or we could do this thing with the swords

Why didn't they just do the sword thing right away?
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>>377263769

No they're not ultramarine exclusive, the Blood Ravens have already been mysteriously gifted some.

Girlyman gave them to most chapters, some like them some don't.
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>>377263618
Just you wait until we get Primaris Terminators, and Primaris Dreadnoughts, and Primaris Rhinos, and Primaris Land Raiders
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>>377259763
>Super Wulfen

Maybe the space wolves shouldn't get these guys.
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>>377263974
Ah, my mistake. That's cool then, I look forward to them being broken and using them on Friday nights at the shop.
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>>377263891
I'm not updated on the Eldar lore. So what do you mean with the swords?
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>>377257938
>>377260986
Vulkan is my favorite primarch. I hope he comes back at the very end of it all completely flipping the balance at the last moment, saving humanity
from chaos before finally dying a true death.
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>>377263775
The HH novels are Star Wars Prequel tier trash. Anakin and Horus even go bad because of 'hurt feelings' and Obi-Wan / The Emperor act like fucking retards which we had no reason to believe before. It wasn't that way in the old lore.
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>>377264068

>implying he isn't in Trazyn's museum too
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>>377263981
I hope the Primaris Rhinos are just four Primaris Marines carrying an old Rhino on their shoudlers.
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>>377264101
Those novels are pretty old now, lad.
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>>377264158
It's actually just a Primaris Marine with a regular marine strapped to his front like a baby.
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>>377263891
Like it or not, the eldar share the lack of knowlege about their own stuff with the humies. Most of their own past is know by legends or myths.

>>377264060
There are 5 swords born from the fingers of Morai-Heg (a diviner goddess) that are needed to fully summon Ynnead without killing all the eldar race. One of them was the Spear of Twilight from Prince Yreil.
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>that guy who doesn't play tabletop
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>>377264101
Blame the chaosfags plaging the HH part of Black Library.

>>377264217
"Agonizingly Alone" will be my fav Emps' quote
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>>377251890
>mfw I will make beakies out of Primaris Space Marines.

Yassssssss
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>>377253167
I'm 2000% Rogal's Yu Gi Oh deck is 60% effectless beaters, two simple non monster cards, and everything else is just wall of text monsters.
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>>377264696
>that guy who still plays the tabletop
Condolences.
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>>377253456
Actually, Russ was acting under Horus's orders at the time, because he didn't know Horus had turned traitor.

Not to mention, the Space Wolves tell the tale every few years to their new recruits about how to not trust "Imperial Authority" anymore and the lamenting of Prospero's burning.
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>>377253050
that was fast
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>>377264806
>>377253167
>>377251158
>>377250358
Fuck you guys, now I gotta go back and catch up now.
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more like

>what are some of the worst examples of design in anything
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>want to buy the army and campaign books
>they keep releasing new books in such large numbers and sometimes in limited quantities.
>not all of the books are hardback.
>some of them start hardback and then go softback
>new editions
>have to spend money on other things too

Realizing this, I never bought a single one of their books because I would have to dedicate all of my resources to them, and even then I'd probably get a fucked up hardback/softback patchwork of books on my book shelf that would look weird.
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>>377265024
>Not to mention, the Space Wolves tell the tale every few years to their new recruits about how to not trust "Imperial Authority" anymore and the lamenting of Prospero's burning.
Sauce? I did hear that Russ felt like shit when he found out the truth.
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>>377265024
>Not to mention, the Space Wolves tell the tale every few years to their new recruits about how to not trust "Imperial Authority" anymore and the lamenting of Prospero's burning.
So they remorse burning prospero and regret trusting horus?
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>>377250924
Those are two different Mega Men.
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>>377265318
or are they?
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>>377251158
if it's as bad as kitten vs tzeentch, I'll pass.

christ, at least kitten vs emps followed the rules(aside from emps having golden castle of stromberg and kitten having giant trunade)
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>>377265196
If the good doc(Belisarius Cawl) has been working on this for 10k years, that means he still must have some STC tech no? or does that even predates him? 21k~
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>>377265230
Leman left because he felt so shitty about it. Not about Magnus, he's a faggot. But falling pray to Horus' machinations, yes.
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>>377265080
Honestly the fan letter episodes are kino as fuck.

The Emperor's reaction to the general retardness of the universe is some 10/10 shit, and even the worst episodes are worth it just for whatever the Emps says. His lines are golden. Kitten's outbursts whenever he actually does shit instead of playing second fiddle are pretty great, too.
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>>377252470
>tfw ynnari are buttfucking dark eldar harder than anything else

I just want my evil edgelord hedonists.
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>>377250358
For a second I thought this was Reinhardt from overwatch
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>>377265573

+1

'Tis hella epic indeed.
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>>377262383
Which ones and did they have Kroots with them?
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>>377262110
also while the fallen do some shady shit, they've never wiped out shiploads of loyalist marines like the dark angels have(when said ship found out about the fallen)
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>>377250924
>Over-1
That's an entirely different character.
And Samus isn't even a redesign.
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>>377263705
Where do the black templars stand in this? I recall them being the closest thing to a legion in a while and they were also pretty fanatical.
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>>377266376
They lost a lot of guys on Cadia. If I had to guess, they will probably be getting a lot of primarines to make up for their losses.
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>>377266376
They were never Legion sized. The highest estimate is like 8000 marines. Legions consist of hundreds of thousands. Ultramarines or Dark Angels are in actuality much closer despite adhering the the codex limitation since they can effectively call upon their successors at any time.
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How do these Super Duper Space Marines even behave? Are they like robots? They've been sitting and gestating in pods for 10K years? Do they even have discernible personalities? How can you just dump them into all these diverse chapters as blank slates and expect them to fit in without having at least decades of understanding the chapter culture and doctrines?
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>>377266376
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>>377266376
They got mauled pretty badly. After Armageddon, the ensuing chase, and Cadia they might almost be back to chapter strength.
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>>377259763
Super-marines are a mix of ALL primarchs, so expect cupid wings in a Salamanders army. I expect this fluff to accommodate whatever deviant fetish some fat fuck comes up with for his custom chapters.
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>>377266617
by whatever fluff you come up with
no
no
by whatever fluff you come up with
by whatever fluff you come up with
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>>377266651
PUUUUURGING WIIIIITH MY KIIIIIIIIIIN
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>>377267005
>Wulfens with wings
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>>377263705
>Some Necrons helped fight chaos in the siege of Cadia.
Anon you have ten seconds to explain that.
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>>377253838
>Krieg is in the most safe and tame part of the galaxy
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>>377267484
Trazyn is a cool and smart guy and realised that Cadia falling is probably bad so he let some of his collection help fight for it.
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>>377266617
We dont know yet. They were revealed like 2 days ago
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>>377267484
Trayzn showed up with his army to help Cawl debug the pylons and also let some of his Imperial exhibits assist in the defense.

The pylons were Necron tech intended to close the Eye of Terror when they were destroyed it reversed the reaction causing it to split open and connect with other warp storms.
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>>377267484
Trazyn was bored, he wanted to play the hero so he realesed part of his collection (incluying Greyfax, 30K Ultramarines and members of the Tanith First and Only) to aid Cadia. After that mess, he got Creed and wants to add Abbadon to his collection.
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>>377267484

Trazyn was literally bored and he just felt like helping, then he left.
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>>377267760
You'd think the rest of the Necrons would try and defend their shit a littler better. They have no fucking excuse.
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>>377267484
Some = Trayzn and his doombot clones.


Also, during the battle Trayzn unleashed some of his collection which includes: a post-Heresy era Ultramarine force (Contemptor Dreadnaughts and all), a regiment of Vostroyan, snipers from the long dead Tanith, Salamanders thought lost during the Klovian disaster, a very confused Custode, and Inquisitor Katarinya Greyfax of the Ordo Hereticus and her bodyguard. With the exception of Greyfax, they all got blown up with Cadia.
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>>377265043
The shitposting in the 40k general over on /tg/ is close to the levels of /tv/
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>>377268015

Most necrons don't give a shit. Trazyn gave a shit for a second and it's the only reason he helped.
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>>377268015
The Necrons have a ton of data on the place, but Trazyn deliberately ignores that. He only went because he presumed playing hero will get the Bell of Saint Gerstahl to stop fucking up his gallery on Solemance, and for a chance to out Creed Creed.
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>>377268095
It wasn't Kitten was it?
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>>377268138
It hasn't been spammed with inter-racial porn yet. To me it's /vg/ general-level of bad.
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>>377253189
More like a change in the overall art style. The original elements are basically the same.
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>>377268015
When it comes down to it, the Necron don't give a shit. They would help out of the barest hint of empathy, but beyond that, they are beyond the whole "Chaos" problem, and the Eye of Terror tearing open really doesn't threaten the Necron's in the slightest.

It's like expecting the Tyranids or Orks to be worried about Chaos.
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So how 'bout that Dawn of War 3?
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>people using If the Emperor had Text To Speech Device nicknames when discussing the actual WH40K lore.
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>>377269607
A lot of these nicknames predate it you sperg
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>>377250181
The entire 4th sphere expansion is traveling the warp.
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>>377269659
Nice try idiot.
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>>377269659
I've been following Games Workshop and 40K since the 80's and I've never heard or seen anyone use the nickname "Kitten" and suddenly people are using it after those videos.

Don't even try.
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>>377255887
You're like 7 years late, senpai. Literally the same thing. The source is the grey knights codex.
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>>377256435
>it's selling better than WHFB did
no shit retard gw could shit in a box and it would sell better then wfb because they never fucking bothered to put effort into updating it until they wanted to axe it off (despite it selling well during the end times)
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>>377258165
blanche is dogshit kill yourself
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>>377269546
>Legitimately expected DoW 3's story to be tied with the Gathering Storm shit
>It's a rethread of DoW 1's story but worse in every way and with a voiceless, generic antagonist

What the fuck were they thinking
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>>377265361
uh oh
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>>377265374

Not following the rules is the whole point, dummy, it's supposed to be like an episode from the anime.
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>>377266617
If they're smart with the fluff, all these things will be points of contention that create dramatic conflict. If not, fanfiction-tier power-creep garbage.
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>>377270842
The anime had some real stupid shit

>Cards that can't be seen when summoned because of it being underwater
>Water side starts to crawl over to Yugi's side, preventing some cards from being summoned
>His solution is to destroy his moon card so that the bastard's fish cards die and he can't summon anymore
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>>377270842
the first episode followed the rules though(aside from the golden castle, and the lack of a banlist)

even bruva acknowledged he fucked up a lot of different things.
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So... are there any direct comparison images of the bigmarines with the marinelets?
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>>377272303
>>377254861
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>>377272556
danke

Looks like they have better proportions and their bolters look like they're actually made for their size as opposed to two sizes too big.
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>>377270464
Dude esports lmao
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>>377272649
Now imagine the look of heavy bolters on them.
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>GW cave into idiots who think setting=story and complain about no "progression"

Good job fuckers, you ruined the setting.
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>>377272904
> waaaah change is scary!

aspie
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>>377272969
>Age of Sigmar is good

retard
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>>377272904
Abbadon doing stuff is actually a great change in my opinion.

Although I don't get the Eldar line of reasoning.

>Hmmm... we murderfucked a god into existence which created the largest warp storm that is now broken
>I know, we should create another!
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>>377272969
It is scary when you change from being stationary to speeding towards a wall.
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>>377259658
Is the main Tyranid fleet still on the boat--er, I mean, making its way to the Galaxy? I thought the big scary thing was that all the hive fleets so far were just scouting parties for a big hive that's like 30 galaxies worth of nids.
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>>377272904
How is this a change in setting? It's still ETERNAL WAR, just with a big chaos rift instead of the Eye of Chaos.
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>>377256732
>They scrapped the entire bad ass fucking Dwarven Empire of old WHFB and turn them into some fucking steampunk diarrhea where they were tophats and fly blimps while engaging in sky piracy.

Jesus fucking Christ this is so stupid I am at lost of words. This is what Warhammer Fantasy Battle died for.

>>377256358
No shit it's selling well.

They fucking turned the game into a Warmahordes skirmish like game where you tell people that you only need a couple of units for a full fledged army, and of course Total War Warhammer. New niggers into the wargame are oblivious to previous versions and will jump right in to the current/promoted release if they are even remotely interested in the frachise. "Oh... Warhammer, looks like the full title for the game is Age of Sigmar as well"
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>>377273280
Hive Fleet Leviathan, which is the biggest one yet, was entering the galaxy from "beneath" and going straight for Terra, but it seems like that storyline was put on hold in favor of the Eye of Terror expanding its' dong in the Imperium's urethra.
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>>377270842
>levitation ring
>that shitty filler arc with the monster with Infinite ATK which YGO beats by turning the ATK of his monster into the power of friendship, which is greater than infinity.
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>No imperial guard horror game
>No Total Warhammer 40k
>No Space Marine sequel (Despite these marines being the perfect opportunity to do it)
>No Mek Boy/Warboss similator
>No Warhammer 40k: Battlefront
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>>377273589

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fbdQBwbO4

The villain even calls him out on it being nonsensical.
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>>377273280
That is one of the big scary things. Theres like a dozen big scary things that are very real possibilities and can lead to nightmare situations
>Chaos running rampant across the galaxy
>The Nid's main force finally reaching the galaxy
>All Orks banding together under one Warlord
>All Tomb Worlds waking up at once
Just to name a few top priority ones
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>>377273593
>>No imperial guard horror game
someone get the bingo sheet
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>>377273770
>The Orcs in the Octavius sector defeat the high fleet there and turn around on the Imperium because they're now numbering in hundreds of billions and are the biggest they've ever been from the constant fighting
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>>377274120
The orkz and nids really compliment each other. On one hand, the orkz repopulate like crazy, probably quicker than the nids can consume them, and are a great source of biomass and then the nids in an effort to absorb them are a constant source of conflict for the orkz.

It's a fucked symbiotic relationship.
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There are two types of people.

People that believe Old Ones created the Nids and those who don't.

Who are you?
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>>377274556
Why would they? They already created orkz and eldar to fight their shit for them.
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>>377273572
What if Cypher kills the emperor and his soul gets eaten by Sigmar?
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>>377275538
Is this what it's like when worlds collide?
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>>377275604
Great, now I have that song stuck in my head.
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>>377258867
Red Orks
They go faster.
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>>377260426
Well that's doesn't change anything
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>>377247264
>>377248223
I think the bigger problem is that they are not a redisign.GW should have jusy come out and said: "Look these are the new space marine models and you can steel use your old mini"
But instead they decided to mash them in the fluff as retardedly as possible
>Space marine space marines
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I hardly keep up with 40k but i think its cool as shit. Did they do anything about the dead emperor yet?
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>>377273142
>post yfw they give every faction their endgame within reach, then keep it there for the next 30 years

It's what I'm hoping for. Progress the plot enough to give everyone their ubers, then let people play in that 'on the verge' world.
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>>377279338
Nope. emperor is still dead and sitting on the throne holding the universe together as best he can.

If you want something casual to get into 40k with, check out 'If the Emperor had a text-to-speech device' on YT. It's a pretty light-hearted story that takes the piss out of the universe while also being respectful and telling the fluff in a relaxed way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyeoBm5QFnA
one of my favourite episodes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcYrTCGKyrU
the first episode.
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>>377279850
>If you want something casual to get into 40k with, check out 'If the Emperor had a text-to-speech device' on YT. It's a pretty light-hearted story that takes the piss out of the universe while also being respectful and telling the fluff in a relaxed way.

you mean
>copy paste every generic 40k meme you can into one unfunny series
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>>377280080
>unfunny
This can always be debated since humour is a matter of taste.

Plenty of people enjoy it, though.
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>>377280379
sorry im just a cynical /tg/ asshole who has to experience these "hilarious jokes" every time I go to actually play the tabletop game.

>"hehe YOU PLAY ULTRASMURFS XD
>ITS I CATO SICARIUS HAHA
>GUILLIMAN IS A MARY SUE I SAW THIS SERIES ONLINE...
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>>377269512
The Necrons are worried about Chaod you moron. They are scrambling to defend the remaining pylons which are only things keeping the Warp from devouring the galaxy.

And Tyranids are zigzaging around the galaxy avoiding those Warpstorms
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>>377247264
Literally like 4 posts in this thread are about redesigns. This is why everyone fucking hates you faggots.
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>>377280691
>you play ultrasmurfs
HA.
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>>377280691
>playing Ultramarines

You deserve everything you get there.
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>>377280691
>I CATO SICARIUS
Always wondered if that personality was based on some meme or if it was something the series came up with on its own.
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>>377280782
>>377280853
epic
>>377280921
solely meme based

cato is a glory hound douche in the lore and a lot of people hate him
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>>377273770
I wonder if all those things happening together would cancel each other out. Each one alone would destroy the galaxy, but all the nids vs. all the orks vs. all the skellingtons would be a standstill.
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>>377280691
>playing ultralatrines
you deserve it
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>>377251890
>one of them has the flag of my country in the head
Nice!
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>>377280993
Yeah, I've read he's a really talented officer and next in line for leadership after the current Chapter Master.

But then, super talent seems to be the norm for Ultramarines.
Isn't their chapter master the spiritual liege of LITERALLY ALL space marines, and the histories of his deeds fill half the chapter's library or some shit?
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>>377273770
Is there a doomsday scenario involving the tau?
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>>377281116
I wonder who could be behind this post

>>377281265
people think hes next in line but Calgar knows hes a hothead so its probably not happening

>Isn't their chapter master the spiritual liege of LITERALLY ALL space marines
old lore but he is considered one of the best

>the histories of his deeds fill half the chapter's library or some shit?
not half but a bunch
of course what self respecting chapter master wouldn't
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>>377281446
ooh, tell them about the time calgar lifted a necron pylon and used it as a fucking weapon.
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>>377280691
>Tumblrniggers, redditors and youtube comments dredges miss the 40k train by a decade and get into the hobby because GW decided to squeeze the rock of some more juice and advertize it everywhere
>Have to listen to these subhumans spouting "jokes" that stopped being funny 7 years ago

Nothing worse than seeing a ritalin-addled kid with a "pro-painted" starter bundle spouting FOR THE EMPRAH and HERESY memes or being linked tumblr images of unfunny comics or "jokes" by my retard friends whose only knowledge of 40k comes from alfabusa and 1d4chan articles
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>>377281719
>when an important named character in 40k does something incredible

>>377281721
I feel your pain
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>>377281721
Are you frustrated?
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>>377273097
Yneead is going to fuck Slaanesh to death and free the Eldar. Then maybe he'll free Aisha.
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>New Space Marines start wiping out the Orks
>Looks like a victory
>Suddenly distant screaming
>Orks start shaking
>They stop being green
>They slowly turn red
>They start dashing at incredibly hignh speeds at the Marines
>The ultimate Wagghhh begins
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>>377249723
Explain yourself.
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>>377282883
On the website, they said the Chaos gods has not been idle
So something coming up
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>>377282883
Chaos is gonna get their own versions of the Primaris marines or some shit

It's GW, so they're going to take any opportunity to release overpowered minis and make money off them
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>>377283039
That's what possessed marines should have been.
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>>377251890
Look pretty cool desu. Better guns too.
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I don't know why they didn't just use the Shredder style outfit. It's probably unlockable through the gear system but I'd rather have had from the get-go that and not this fugly nonsense. In fact I'd rather have the classic look or pretty much anything from MK9 or X, I don't remember him having an outfit I didn't like in either of those games.
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>>377273728
>You can't!
>I just did!
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>>377263981
>coming soon to a GWS shop near you
>Primaris Adeptus Custodes
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>>377247264
>implying the numarines dont look pretty damn good
MK4 base with the MK8 gorget=superior armor.
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>>377263981
>Primaris Centurion
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>tfw reading about space woles to see how much of the memes are true
>they've basically been at war with the Ecclesiarchy as much as chaos

I thought you guys said they were shit, these guys sound awesome.
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>>377255794
>creed is gone
Creed got Trayzn'd son, he'll be back. And Girlyman is actually unfucking the Imperium one bureaucrat at a time. Its not a sure thing for Chaos, especially with the Eldar and 'crons working against them too.
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So are Rowboat and that Eldar bitch fucking? Does ol' Girlyman have a xeno gf?
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>>377258867
Those already exist in the fluff anon, they were the proto Orks made by the Old Ones in their war against the 'crons
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>>377251890
Love those helmets!
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>>377284023
Yiff in hell.

Magnus was right.

Chaos is the only way.
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>>377253336
Are you forgetting about best primarch?
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>>377257069
Basically space marines new minis will be taller.
You can still use old ones anyway so i dont know why people flip their shit
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>>377267576
It's like pottery
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>>377282875
wouldn't they turn dark green or am I getting my lore wrong
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>>377264132
Pls no
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>>377273728
Need the abridged version pls
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>>377274556
I don't know, but I sure hate the animaniacs.
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>>377260642
I miss vulkan :(
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>>377273728
>I just did
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>>377268474
>tfw kitten got blown up on cadia
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>>377268095
>Tanith snipers get trapped by Necrons and then died in Cadia
They can't get a fucking break, can they?
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>>377269607
How badly is your life dominated by your aspergers?
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>>377281721
Nothing more hilarious than some rabid neckbear taking WH40K seriously. Extra points for pretending to be a purist from the good ole days.
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>>377281248
No mexican space muhrines, sorry.
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Of these options, which is more likely to happen now in the Imperium:

>Other Primarchs awaken/recover/return and Rowboat and his bad dudes begin the crusade to unfuck the galaxy
>Same as above except through some means the Emperor is removed from his throne via death and reincarnates in some way
>Same as above except the Emperor dies and does NOT reincarnate in some way
>Leman Russ returns with the Tree of Life and restores the Emperor to health
>Nothing happens because its GW
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>>377283747
I wonder what the primaris emperor will look like haha
just for laughs
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>>377286303
All of the above
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>>377286442
So Rowboat and his bad dudes begin their quest to unfuck the galaxy, but the Emperor dies but gets reincarnated but then dies again for some reason BUT our boy Leman had the Tree of Life he brings him back again?
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duh, sonic with blue arms and JUST MegaMan & Mini.
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>>377285049
not out yet.

they're about 2/3 into the arc. that's the finale duel.

but considering LK is falling apart and the most notable duel in the arc just had him ape the subs, I'm guessing it'll be similar.

https://youtu.be/BCftH2rDVzo?t=10m53s
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>>377284023
they're an entire faction of chaos-tainted space marines still serving the emperor in the most viking of ways.
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>>377286303
A/E, though A will come with a caveat that everyone else is stepping up their shit - the traitor primarchs are returning too, necrons are getting more shards, eldar have ynnead getting stronger, tyranids are breaching more, the GSC uprising on terra is getting bigger, orks are....getting orkier in worlds like armageddon, and tau are.....staying irrelevant because the tau are a joke.
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>>377265920
>'Tis
haha
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>>377257583
>Cadian guardsmen held out longer than the planet did.
They died standing even when there was no solid ground to stand on...

>>377251618
Pretty much all SC1->SC2 redesigns were bad. They dispensed with gritty Alien(s) feel, which is such a shame.
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How gay am I if I only buy the models to paint and collect instead of actually playing the game? I don't think I'd have anyone to play with where I live anyways.
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>>377286245
>What are Crimson Fists
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>>377289910
If you know how to paint well, they make for great stands on your desk.
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>>377289910
perfectly valid thing to do anon. Alot of people like that side of the hobby alot and maybe don't got people to play with
like me
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>>377250924
whats wrong with clark?
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>>377289910
>How gay am I if I only buy the models to paint
That depends. Do you give them to your boyfriend?
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>>377290082
I'm kinda lucky I have a local games workshop and there is always someone playing there, even if it is the manager.

Problem is that I only started the actual playing and only have played Shadow Wars.
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>>377248223
that's his Pre Heresy Armor designed by FW.

His post stasis armor is different
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>>377247264
>All preexisting Space Marines immediately become the Emperor's second finest

Looks like heresy's back on the menu boys!
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>>377290215
shadow wars looks really cool, which dudes you play in it.
>tfw live in middle of nowhere
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>>377290297
I play Necrons and have only lost once to Skitari.

Still, my commander Immortal has Marksmen and sustained fire, so he is pretty dangerous for the next game.

It was a 2v3. 2 necron armies vs Space Marines, Chaos Marines and Skitari. The other guy had to surrender but I defeated the two space marine players. Fucking Skitari and their snipers fucked me over though.
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>>377251890
They're going to need bigger metal boxes, Rhinos are already hilariously small.
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>>377290158
Yeah, but I say no homo everytime we kiss though.
>>
DID THEY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ORKS YET
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>>377253189
was it even a good character design in the first place
>>
Refreshed Cadian sprues when? They look like chunky toy soldiers and they're old as shit.

Also, go back to putting 20 men in a box you fuckers
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remember that time the necrons had to bail out the imperium against the tyranids
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Can somebody give me a really kick tl;dr about wh40?
I know that some dude called Horus fucked with The Emperor and made him a skeleton but not before he got his soul literally destroyed or some shit.
Then everything went to shit. Also space elves created a cosmic horror and space magic skeletons want to kill everyone just because, and there's space bugs that want to eat everything and space orcs want to fight everyone.
Also there's some avatar kind of shit alien race which is kind of pacific?
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>>377290779
>a really quick tl;dr

Shit be fucked, everyone is going to die
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>>377290557
they iz made fer fightin and winnin
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>>377259387
with what they are doing to Emps in the horus heresy line he is turning into an nonredeemable cunt anyway
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>>377247264
>Imperium bringing out the finest of the finest to brace for the coming storm
End Times soon, brothers!
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>>377253456
I really felt bad for Magnus in the novels. All he wanted to do was help.
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>>377291547
how so?

I saw a lot of people hated the Emperor after reading The Master of Mankind, but I thought it made him more understandable

the only thing I think he is a massive bitch for is how he dealt with the demon Drach'yn
I don't expect the Emperor to lose to a fucking Daemon
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>>377290779
humans:
10,000 years ago, some near-omnipotent shaman called the emperor united humanity, got rid of religion, then made 20 super-duper humans called primarchs as his sons.

then he created space marines out of their DNA.

Then the chaos gods split them and shot them across the galaxy, and by the time emps united them, they were grown up in various weird ways.

Then one of his sons started speaking to the chaos gods. He turned evil, and proceeded to corrupt emps' most powerful son, horus, who also allied with chaos and led a crusade on earth, called the horus heresy. Emps battled him, but was killed. However, he's so goddamn powerful that his death could rip a hole in the galaxy, so they stuck his corpse on a fancy throne powered by the souls of 10,000 psykers a day.

In time, this book was released by the asshole who was talking to the gods, that said the emperor was a god, so humans started worshipping him.

10,000 years later, the space marines are fractured, chaos is running rampant trying to destroy everything, and the imperium is a mess of beurocracy and religious fanatics. The imperial guard value numbers over martial skill.

there's also techpriests, space hoboes who worship machines.

and sisters of battle, who are insane not-quite-space marine women who fight servants of chaos with lots and LOTS of fire.

>eldar in next post.
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>>377291823
Because of the whole
>the Horus Heresy was planned, Emps wanted a way to cull the number of Marines after final victory was in grasp and he had no further need for them, just spiraled out of control
thing.
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>>377251890
>That jojo pose
Regardless, this is superior in every way
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>>377255091
>I don't see how the status quo can even remain the same after all this?

Chaos gods brew up some new shit, Tau build a new line of battle suits, yadda yadda. Just need to give some factions an upgrade and you already have your balance again.

Actually without these upgrades they might have had a problem keeping the Necrons and Tyranids balanced if they ever want to tell stories past the current time frame
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>>377291840
eldar: way back in the day, when humans were still primitive cavemen, necron'tyr rose up and started killing everything. to combat them, the 'old ones' gave eldar wraithbone tech and set them against them. the eldar won, and started building an empire.

They began getting stronger and stronger, but once they took over the galaxy, they started getting complacent. They were super duper psychic, but making babies required a LOT of sex...so it wasn't an issue.

So they did a lot of sex, a lot of drugs, and a lot of murderfucking....but their psychic energy started messing with the Warp, creating a new god.

eventually, some of the eldar started hanging out in an in-between realm called the webway, some of the eldar decided 'fuck this' and became space amish.

then shit came to a head, and a small group of eldar realized they were going too far with their hedonism and murderfucking, so they made a bunch of planet-sized ships called craftworlds.

the remaining eldar kept murderfucking...and then their murderfucking ripped open a hole in the universe and birthed a god/goddess of excess - slaanesh. as a result, all the eldar that weren't space amish, stuck in the webway, or far away on craftworlds, or those that sold their soul to their laughing god, got murdered and eaten by Slaanesh.

so now, the eldar are dying off because they can't give birth naturally to more eldar. meanwhile, the ones in the webway got fucked up, and their soul is draining away to get eaten. the only way to stave it off is to make others suffer in their place. They now live on the agony and suffering of others, and continue to delight in excess and murderfucking.

the craftworlders, meanwhile, started working to create their god of death, ynnead, who they figured could kill slaanesh and save their people.

They recently succeeded, but ynnead is a baby so they need to start feeding it souls to get stronger.

>necrons/orks in next post
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>>377291840
>Emps battled him, but was killed.
This is mega-heresy, senpai.
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>>377253456
Horus turned Magnus traitor by intercepting and changing Russ' order from "arrest Magnus" to "genocide the planet"

imagine a reality where that never happened; Magnus would have been brought to Terra and would sit on the golden throne in the Emperor's place to make up for his webway fuckup, the Emperor and forces could actually clear the webway of demons, and would have been in much better condition to fight Horus during the final batte
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>>377262504
wtf I love Girlyman now??
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>>377291925
where was that revealed? I don't remember reading that the Emperor planned ANY of that shit, and instead it was because his premonition could allow him to see the destination, but not what would lie on the path to get there
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>Ynnari
>Aeldari
>Drukhari
>Astra Millitarum
>Tempestus Scions
>Skitarii
>Primaris

The names are getting sillier.
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>>377292393
Was some interviews with the writers. It's not in the novels yet but it is where they are going with them. Someone on /tg/ will have the image with the quotes for sure.
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>>377257938
>Space wolves lost their homeland.
Fuck, they killed of Fenris?
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>>377292235
necrons:

way back in the day, there was a race of aliens called necrontyr, who hated life....a lot. they found out about these godlike things called 'old ones' and started a war against them.

they then started harnessing these weird creatures and stuck them in metal shells called c'tan. in response, the c'tan tricked them into robot bodies, and called them necrons. The necrons got fucking powerful as shit, taking over the universe with their murder-roboting.

But then the old ones gave tech to the eldar to fight them.

They also created a faction of plant-men designed for fighting, called Krorks. their plan was to program them into killing machines loyal to them, but they got loose and just started foightan and lootan, evolving into orks.

As the c'tan started seeing shit go sideways, a few of the remaining c'tan started seeing shit go south. One of them took off, and another started convincing the others to eat and kill each other. Eventually, the necrons were beat back, and went to sleep for several millenia until they figured they could come back and just wreck shit again.

Over the millenia, orks started getting stronger, developing a weird sort of psychic link that lets them believe things to be strong, and making it so. their guns, weapons, and vehicles are ramshackle pieces of garbage that work because they think they do.

>tyranids and tau in the next post
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>>377292483
that would be a step too far for me, if GW said that the Emperor planned the Horus Heresy, I will shit a brick, because without the Heresy happening, humanity would have already WON by now, so why the FUCK would he cause it to happen to deliberately sabotage the future of humanity?

that sounds like complete character assassination
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>>377292519
magnus ransacked it, #rekt the wolf spirits, and used their energy to bring the planet of the sorcerers out of the Warp.

the sons were pushed back, but now the residents of fenris are beign put into camps(because they saw daemons), the space wolves are dying off, and they have no way to stave off the wulfen curse.
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>>377292571
He didn't plan for it to spiral this much out of control.
It's been a while since I read the interview, but it was along the line of him knowing that Horus would eventually understand what he was going for and rise up against him, so some sort of double keikaku.
And IIRC, he didn't plan for Magnus to fuck it up or something.

But his plan was basically just a reduced number of Space Marines so he doesn't have to deal with tons of bored soldiers after the galaxy is conquered, he just didn't plan for so many of them to side with Horus.
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>>377292593
>the space wolves are dying off, and they have no way to stave off the wulfen curse.
;_;
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>>377263705
What about the Tau Empire? They don't know yet about this new events? Because i could see them being tryhards in order to join as well.
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>>377292532
You forgot the reason why they hated life.

They hated it because their species kept dying due to the radiated sun they lived under. Their cities were tombs because of the death rate they experienced.
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>>377292462
Perfectly fine high gothic names
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>>377292717
Tau never had any bearing on the plot.

They are the faction that annoys everyone. Unlike the others, they have no way to trigger the end game of the universe.
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>>377253336
Space wolves best marines
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>>377259482
I spent an unreasonable amount of time on the lexicanum and read something like 80 novels I guess

send help
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>>377292532
tyranids:

they're an incredibly smart race of extra-galactic space bugs. they're numberless, and only came to this galaxy because guillman activated some old tech that sent out a crazy beacon of energy.

They go planet to planet, stripping it of all natural resources, biomass, and energy, leaving it a dead husk, before moving to the next. They also use 'genestealers' to sneak into planets, rape a baby into the citizens, and those rape babies use their near-human appearance to rape more babies and create a cult around them, which worships the tyranids as gods. They also send out beacons of psychic energy to summon the fleet of tyranids to them to kill them all(but the cultists die last)

tau:

They used to be a faction of primitive fish-men, until a group of aliens called 'ethereals' found them. they 'convinced'(read:forced) the faction to worship them, and now function as a perfect communist commune. they seem super nice and perfect, and only recently developed space-faring capabilities, and shanghaied more alien factions to join them, like the bestial kroot and the flying bug-people vespids.

tau are a tiny as fuck faction, but they have giant robots and super powerful guns.

>chaos in the next post
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>>377292849
Wait, I thought the Ethereals were the same race as the regular Tau.
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>>377259658
>the Eye of Terror tore open
Because they fucked those Necron pillars when they blew up Cadia I assume?
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Would you want something like Halo Legends for Warhammer 40k?

>The shorts explaining the backstory up to this point

Oh lordy
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>>377281283
The Tau are irrelevant in the bigger picture. The only way they could make an influence is if they provided tech to the imperium.
Which wouldn't happen because that's heresy.
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What ever happened to the white scars?
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>>377292961
No, mostly because most of the animation was really bad.
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>>377293026
>The Tau are irrelevant in the bigger picture.
Not farsight. He's going to see this shit through.
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>>377292697
>>377292593
WHERE THE FUCK IS RUSS?! SERIOUSLY

>"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime." (last words of Leman Russ)

when leaks of a Primarch returning were abound, I was positive it was Russ because of the curse of the wulfen and wrath of Magnus events
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>>377292849
chaos:

once upon a time, the old ones lived in an alternate dimension created by emotion.

However, over the generations, as humans, eldar, and necrontyr got bigger, their emotions started warping it into the 'warp'.

eventually, the Warp manifested gods and daemons, with 3 being dormant until the fourth was born:

khorne: god of skulls and murder. powered by battle and mass murder

tzeentch: god of change and magic. powered by psykers and ambitious traitors

nurgle: god of plague and stagnation. powered by sickness, disease, and the poor.

and then the eldar murderfucked slaanesh into existence: the god/dess of excess and art, and powered by super duper extreme acts of debauchery or excessive acts of perfection.

with the four chaos gods active, they spoke to some of the primarchs, triggering the horus heresy and murdering the emperor. now they're working to wipe out the galaxy and murder everything.

because the emperor knew that they existed because of belief in them, he kept their existence secret. this had the effect, however, of not giving any of the primarchs ways to defend themselves against their manipulations.

10,000 years in the future, daemons existence is still kept a secret, so humans who survive chaos incursions are either murdered by the church of the god-emperor or put into death camps.
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>>377293161
>source: my ass
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>>377291840
>>377292235
>>377292532
>>377292849
>>377293192
Did I seriously fuck up or miss anything especially important?
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>>377293264
Just>>377292916


>>377293082
Homecoming was shit and Origins was questionable but the rest were on point.
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>>377293042
their home planet was fucked up by the dark eldar during the heresy and jaghatai khan went missing, possibly looking for commorragh to fuck them up in races.

>>377292916
kinda sorta not really. They are to tau what humans are to monkeys, AFAIK.
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>>377293310
>Homecoming

I meant the Package.
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How buttfucked is the Tau now anyway with the current events of chaos everywhere?

Will they get squatted?
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>>377293332
But what happened to them recently? Comorragh is kill and the galaxy is going to shit. Surely an entire legion can't be AFK.
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>>377293479
tau are pretty much immune to chaos. They were and still are safe on that front, and are actually now getting more territory now that the galaxy was rent in two, stopping the imperium from supporting the other side.
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>>377260426
that would be just as much of an asspull
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>>377293479
>GW squatting the Tau
>Ever

They'll pull some bullshit out of their ass.
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>>377293519
commorragh isn't entirely fucked (yet).

and I think GW mostly forgot about them. They don't even have custom rules.
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>Thread still alive
good morning fellow brother marines
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>>377293536
>have human aux everywhere in their empire
I doubt them blueberry xenos will be the same shit once a full blown chaos incursion hits their face
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>>377263436
I'd laugh my ass off
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>>377264132
>GW finally decides to just merge 30k and 40k and war in heaven together
>Lol Trazyns zoo broke and everyone escaped
>deal with it, fangoys
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>>377293692
gue'vasa are too brainwashed to be tempted by chaos.
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>>377293862
The are still humans, just send some bunch of cultist and with Tau's policy of multiculti, I doubt they'll intervene until tentacle rape monsters pops up.
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>>377293998
Knowing the ethereals, they all probably have killswitches implanted for situations like this.
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i dont know shit about the warhammer universe
someone show me a picture of the strongest thing in the warhammer universe
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>>377294128
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>>377265413
STCs predate the era of emp's leadership IIRC.
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>>377294128
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>>377294128
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>>377273593
>>No Total Warhammer 40k

>there's still no Mechanicus vs Tyranids redesign for Factorio
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>>377280921
He surfs on a Tau troop transporter to engage a Tau bomber in melee in one of the novels.
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>>377257069
designed their highest selling models to look more to scale and overall better in design - without retconning the old models. Literally the best move they've done in years.
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>>377294262
That's cheating anon.
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>>377294512
>in one of the novels
I'm going to go ahead and assume that's essentially non-canon.
It better be.
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>>377294415
>No primarch character-action game

Relic need to abandon DoW3 and make Space Marine 2, we need more stuff like that
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>>377294675
>no IG survival horror game
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>>377294616
It's from Blades of Damocles
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>>377253050
kek
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>>377294754
>horror FPS against the Tyranids
>the game Aliens: Colonial Marines should have been
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>>377294415
>there's still no Mechanicus vs Tyranids redesign for Factorio
That game is perfect and you do not fuck with it.
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>>377295317
Did 343i design this shit?
>>
STAIRS
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>>377295628
tyranids are so much scarier than xenomorphs
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>>377296190
That is great.
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>>377296128
Nids are ugly and cheap xeno knockoffs.
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>>377257668
this is going to be the same clusterfuck that will end with age of emperor
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There's a thing I don't understand with W40K. Why the humans go and start building a city in the safety of the warp, so that the tyrabids can't reach them.
Also, can a human living in the warp summon a Monica Belluchi or two? Asking for a friend.
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>>377262219
>Garthering Storm 3.
Are there any mega or torrent links for Gathering Storm?
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>>377297514
>why the humans go and start building a city in the safety of the warp
Everything there wants to eat humanities soul and faces.
>summon a Monica Belluchi
yes, yes you can.
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>>377254747
King Anime
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>>377297632
Check 40k general.
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>>377297514
the warp isn't safe at all, especially for humans that don't worship the chaos gods, they are a source of food/sacrifices for chaos
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>>377297743
I'm currently checking through the Mega library, I forgot I had it bookmarked.
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>>377297670
>>377297810
Even with shielded cities?
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>>377297828
It has Gathering Storm I, I guess there are no epubs of II and III.
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>>377259482
I've read a fuckton of the books and spent too much time on lexicanum. Really you just find the part that interests you and dive in. It's like Marvel and DC comics, how their numbers used to scare away new readers. It's not nearly as intimidating as you make it out to be- you're just over thinking it. Just dive in.

It helps when Spess Muhreens are your favorite part.
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>>377297931
I'm not sure if humanity would be able to build gellar fields of sufficient size.


You could take an Arc Mechanicus though, those are basically planet sized ships capable of warp travel.
I doubt you'd want to live there though unless you are a tech priest yourself
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>>377297931
Gellar fields are can only just manage to protect a ship for the brief periods it travels through the warp on a voyage, and even then people can be driven insane or be possessed if it flickers for an instant. A permanent installation in the warp probably wouldn't even last a year.
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>>377265218
We went super emo and paranoid after he learned of the truth. He basically sat idle for a couple of months before resolving to fight for his father.
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>>377260426
Didn't the emperor design the spess muhreens? Why would an STC have info on better geneseed stuff? They could have done that for the power armor, but I thought by m41 they'd already advanced beyond m31 levels using STC's. It's just another ass pull.
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>>377298305
>>377298247
Yeah but think about the Monica Belluchis you could get for a year. Worth it IMHO.
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>>377297514
>>377297931
The Warp is all kinds of fucked up.

Shit like the laws of physics don't matter anymore. Everything is everchanging. Landscapes reshape themselves all the time, and people can go through weird shit like spontaneously losing and having to re-attach limbs.

At least, that's what I've gathered from reading a little. I'm not actually an expert on this lore.
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>>377263981
>Primaris Grey Knights
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>>377298430
I'd tap that, if you know what I mean ;)
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>>377298419
North worth anon. They'd probably have spiked dicks with teeth, it would be shoved into your every orifice and would be used to make new ones.
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>>377297514
>Why the humans go and start building a city in the safety of the warp
Only the Eldar managed to do that with the Webway. The Emperor tried to make his own and now they constantly have to keep an army stationed around the portal to deal with the daemons it's been shitting out for thousands of years.
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>>377298373
Besilarius Cawl have been working on them for 10,000 years, both the geneseed and the wargear.
Prior to that Corax was shitting our Super Space Marine marines during the heresy.
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>>377298514
Slaanesh would be happy to know that.
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>>377298589
Well Magnus fucked it up to start with.
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>>377297514
Pretty much that the Warp is worse than Tyranids.

Yup.
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>>377289104
>orks are....getting orkier in worlds like armageddon
Worse, or bettah, Orks are beginning to unite under Ghazghull. Also, if the Orks win their fight against the Tyranids in the Octavian sector, we're gonna get some really fucking strong Orks united under Ghazghull.
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>>377299025
Is Ghazghull Mak Thraka a reference to Margaret Thatcher?
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>>377299279
Yes. Originally he was just a conversion in Andy Chambers' own collection but they ended up making him a canon character.
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>>377289794
>died

They didn't anon. In lore, the Chaos warbands fucked off thinking they had won and stopped doing things like 'listen to their comrades desperate calls for aid and reinforcements' because of the multiple chapters of space marines, titans, and cadians so entrenched into the planet that it's like Stalingrad 1942.
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>>377300075
So Cadia is still in the Warp, fighting? Cool.
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