Ryzen is getting stronger everyday

>>377246225

Nice cheery peeking faggot.

Just wait for Coffee lake people.

>>377247405
>wait for this cpu
You just admitted Ryzen won

That chart sucks dick.

That said I have a R7 1700 and love it with passion and actual perfomance and compatibility is on the rise with everh Bios update.

As with any new architecture, it will take a while (6-12 months) for the bugs to be fixed and performance polished.

I jumped onto the Ryzen train since the day one benchmarks were pretty impressive, and it only goes up from there

>>377246225
How's the weather in New Delhi?

I have an R5 1600 at 3.8GHz.
Huge improvement over my previous i5 2500k at 4.2GHz.
My 3200MHz ram can't get above 2400MHz right now, hopefully a bios update will fix it.
Now I just need a Vega card.

Ryzen is pretty good, I'm still happy with my x5660, so not going to be upgrading for a while until I'll get a completely new system, but finally AMD delivered so the industry can move forward from Intel's jewcores

>trusting AMD again
not worth the extra 2 fps after how bad they shit the bed

>>377246225
The best part of this is that DX11 on Windows is just about the worst case possible for Ryzen.
The GNU/Linux benchmarks of Vulkan games are even more impressive.

>>377247405
>Just wait(tm)

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>>377247405
Coffeelake (Q1 2018) won't be an improvement on IPC, clocks, or power use; it's still on 14nm. If they really do drop the price on hexcores it won't matter too much. Intel's 14nm process rapidly hits a power wall past 4.0ghz, by 4.6ghz a hexcore would be drawing well into 200 watts. Beyond that is watercooling territory. 5ghz like Kaby quad cores can pull would lead to 300 watt loads which is insane. Single thread performance would suffer compared to Kaby.

By then of course the ILP improvements that Ryzen has will be mature in compilers, giving Ryzen enough of an IPC lead to make that 10%~ clock speed gap nothing too major, even hex core to hex core.

It'll be interesting to see where Zen goes on clock speeds while the process matures, it's not power limited as pictured, more voltage limited. A switch to SOI as rumored for Pinnacle Ridge would be major, SOI mainly improves electrostatic characteristics, allowing lower voltage. 14HP is a SOI node that GloFlo has been working on for IBM, might be what the slides list as "14+ process".

>>377246225
Isn't 3.8+ considered a good draw in the chip lotto when it comes to 1700x?

>>377247405
hey stop that ! wait for™ belongs to amd fan boys

>>377250459
yes

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>>377250376
Here's good board measured power draw figures for the 7700K, stock 4 core turbo is 4.4ghz

>>377250459
3.8 is guaranteed, 3.9 is common, 4 is a good one, 4.1 is an excellent one

>>377249668
>Vulkan games
That's a strange way to spell "DOOM"

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>>377250973
Actually due to Zenimax's idiocy, the new DOOM is Windows-only despite its code being extremely cross-platform friendly.

It doesn't matter that much though since a growing number of games have Vulkan versions, some of which are GNU/Linux-exclusive with substantial performance benefits.

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>>377250908
>mfw netted 6700k back when everyone sold them off for haswel E due to the price collapsing
zero fucks given about ryzen
show me the GPUs AMD

>>377251768
>Vulkan versions, some of which are GNU/Linux-exclusive with substantial performance benefits.
??

>>377251782
Vega is actually a really interesting modification ontop of GCN, it will very likely be ontop GP102, but it won't match a GV102, probably compete well with GV104 though. It's really all a matter of how efficient IF is, and how the resizeable SIMD arrays are implemented.

Navi on the other hand will be a raw bloodbath, I can't see Nvidia equaling it without going down the same road technology wise. Nvidia will probably win on efficiency but dear god the power will be insane.

I wish I could use my ryzen chip. too bad motherboard manufacturers are fucking morons who only make 100 boards at a time.

>>377251782
As someone who just built a rig with a 6700k at the end of last year, that 16 core Threadripper is looking mighty tasty.

>>377252313
How exactly did you end up with a 4C/8T system like 6 months ago when you now have a 16C/32T workload?

>>377246225
>3600mhz Ram
>having to buy $150 ram just to match a 7700K.

Christ.

Delete this thread. I just bought a 7700k.

>>377246225
Question here. Has anyone here tested a Ryzen on an emulator like Dolphin, PCSX2, or CemU? I have a FX-8350 and it sucks dick for any game that's remotely CPU-bound.

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>>377252947
It's $20 cheaper, boards are cheaper, and it doesn't need a new CPU cooler to OC

All while getting vastly superior capabilities past four threads.

>>377251768
doesn't doom works with wine now that denuvo has been removed ?

>>377252947
>$150
Kek. What shitty country do you live in?

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why does the 7700k run so FUCKING HOT

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>>377251986
Look at the image. There's no Vulkan support in the Windows version of Mad Max. Now that the concept is proven more GNU/Linux-only Vulkan versions are on their way.

The RadV driver developed by a couple of guys in their spare time (and some guys paid by Valve) is really picking up speed quickly. Much like the RadeonSI driver it will probably be faster than AMD's own driver efforts soon.

>>377253123
Yeah it's fine, they shit out in the Dolphin CPU Benchmark but that has Zero relation to performance while actually emulating.

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>>377252947
>>377253197
>mfw 3600 mhz ram is 240+ yurobuck

>>377253123
AMD sucks at emulation because multi threading emulation while maintaining accuracy and sync between video and audio is fucking really hard

>>377253197
find 3600mhz, 16gb for cheaper

>>377253179
Yes, though the game is apparently doing some things wrong so only works on the Nvidia driver. Since Zenimax has blocked Id from supporting Linux after decades of native Linux games its not clear if they'll allow it to be fixed to run on the more standards complaint RadV and its unlikely that the open source devs will accept patches to work around the problems of a Windows-only game.

>>377253479
Zen IPC is on par or better than Kaby, only gap is clock speed. The reason why Bulldozer is so shit at it is their IPC is Core 2 tier. It was a fucking regression from Phenom 2 IPC even.

Honestly if you think Ryzen is incapable of running emulation then you think every locked Intel processor is incapable of running emulation.

If Ryzen 3 is gonna be as shit for gayming as i3 then it's gonna be an i5 7400 or Ryzen 5 1400 if it drops even more in price.
Most likely gonna be Intel again since AMD shit the bed in the past with games that utilize only few cores and they have so many problems with Ryzen right now I don't wanna be beta tester

>>377253273
each and every post you made makes no sense.

>>377253273
OK. Which extensions are exclusive to linux? How much better does vulcan perform on linux? What you said here has nothing to do with what I was asking from the prior post.

>>377253479
Intel spent A LOT of time optimizing their branching performance starting, I believe, with haswell and that has payed high dividends in emulation. Thus the gap.

>>377253587
arf that kinda suck but it's better than nothing i guess

>>377253885
Ryzen 3 will be quad cores with no SMT, just like an i5

>>377253520
>16GB instead of 8GB
Retard.

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>>377253979
Ryzen has better branch prediction than Intel, read your Agner sometime.

Honestly, the fucker has a simple neural network that remembers past branch results, purely for branch prediction.

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>people thinking zen is anything like the fx cpus

This board is so fucking retarded I swear.

>>377254204
>TFW you live long enough to see AMD survive Bulldozer and come back on top again
Feels good.

>>377254161
That so? Well, my impression has been that it was highly optimized branching in intel that gave them the advantage. Talking to some devs they seemed to think this was it as well. If not, then maybe it's an L3 latency difference, since that's one place intel wins for sure. Other than that I can't really say, beyond code needing reworking, but emus like dolphin are pretty solid there.

>>377254610
Ryzen wins on L3 latency and bandwidth outside of CCX crosstalk

If Ryzen is so great and so much better then why isn't AMD more popular than Intel? checkmate.

Face it, if you are someone that uses an ATI card with an AMD board you're seen as a pleb. Blue and Green are what serious gamers choose to use, they don't pinch pennies on their hobby to save $20 at the cost of performance and stability.

>>377254762
General latency was above 80ns. Recent drivers dropped it a bit, but it's still high.

>>377246225
Ryzen is so amazing that at day one it sucked, and even now it requires the user to put in extra effort to tailor their rig to suit it. Great win for AMD, why make a good product that just works when you can force your consumers to do all the work.

With the next AMD CPU will we have to hand make our own drivers too? So good. I'll stick with Intel which is a complete product when you get it, doesn't take months to actually start to function at the level it's meant to, and require extremely specific components to work at peak.

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>>377255031

What kind of fucktard made that chart?

You can't even see what the top one is.

>>377255253
Your picture shows that the i7-7700K has better power consumption than the Ryzen equivalent, I don't encode shit, so I don't care. Also yeah if you want a cooler CPU don't overclock, it's not incorrect.

Next time, at least fact check your Wojak shitposting a little.

>>377255253
>power consumption
>workstation benchmark

Why would I give a shit? Oh no my power bill will be 1 dollar higher. and I game at 144hz, not render shitty videos that literally nobody is going to watch.

>>377246225
>ITS NOT SHIT ANYMORE WE PROMISE
you dont understand basic consumerism, nobody is buying that shit, and nobody is going to buy a fucking special mobo just to run thatt piece of shit underperforming turd of a cpu

>>377254968
That was RAM, L3 was originally 21ns range, now it's 15ns

I was thinking of Broadwell-E on latency, which is around 17ns, Kaby gets around 11ns last I checked. There's always variability with that shit.

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>>377255613
Power measurements direct from the motherboard.

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>>377255613
>>377255709
>A quad-core literally consumes as much power as an octa-core
Kek. The housefire meme, and now this? Sad!

>>377255842
Good luck getting that much power consumed in a game on your zen processor in the first place.

Meanwhile, I'll be getting full use of my i7.

AMD users actually pay to avoid putting power through their processors, HAHA.

>>377255842
>A brand new octa-core can barely match an older quad-core

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>>377253979
>OK. Which extensions are exclusive to linux?
The only Vulkan extensions exclusive to GNU/Linux would be related to Wayland or X11 integration, though the RadV devs have talked about extensions that would allow Vulkan to act as a replacement for Gallium for implementing all of RadeonSI OpenGL on top of Vulkan.

>How much better does vulcan perform on linux?
Right now the RadV driver is slower, but its also brand new barely optimized and only recently passed the conformance test. The Nvidia driver is the same as on Windows, though it does have some gains thanks to the greater efficiency of the GNU/Linux platform.

Talk of how much better Vulkan is on GNU/Linux compared to Windows is somewhat irrelevant though since the Vulkan version of Mad Max is Linux-exclusive, there is no Vulkan support at all in the Windows version and there will be more games following the same path over the months to come.

>>377255725
Blah, yes, sorry. I thinking RAM latency, I made a mistake saying L3.

I'd be very disappointed if an octacore was unable to beat a quadcore in games that support 8 threads.

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>>377255709
>>377255613
>>377255825

>>377255825
>>377255842
>1800X and 7700K draw the same amount of power on Prime95
>7700K has 10C higher temps
So this is the power of Jew Cum TIM

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NO! THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!

>>377256154
Workstation and synthetics, what's your point?

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>>377256046
Kek. Not only a house fire, but Intel is literally behind AMD in terms of IPC!

OY VEY!

>>377256240
Ah, rumors. Nothing like a bit of asspull for a discussion.

damn it you guys summoned the /g/ shills

>>377256154
Ryzen, a better workstation CPU is better at workstation tasks than a CPU that is worse at workstation tasks.

Thanks for the update. Just point me to the video games though.

>>377256290
>>377256154
>two seperate shills using the same infographs in different formats

exposed

>>377256420
Ayyy, I'm sure Skylake-X is going to deliver. Just wait, good goy!

>>377246225

I work at a computer store and i can tell you we had two people over the last three months ask for AMD and one of them couldn't figure out how to update the bios on his board so he could use the processor. AMD is stupid as fuck.

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Lol

>>377256512
For gaming? Fuck no.

For workstations? Wait and see.

>>377256587
I'm a blue guy but

>revolutionary products and technologies

>>377256565
>guy is stupid

How is that AMDs fault?

Also it's impossible to turn on the computer without the processor in the motherboard socket. It won't boot. Why are you lying?

>>377256658
>More efficient
>More cores
>Higher IPC
Already DOA with AMD's Threadripper competing against it

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>>377256828
Like I said, wait and see. So far all we have is rumors and marketing.

But - it won't even matter to us. That's workstation range. If you get either for gaming you're a moron.

>>377256658
No thanks all the Skylake SKUs already leaked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#.22Skylake-SP.22_.2814_nm.29_Scalable_Performance

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OK /v/, let's play a game. Defend this.

Don't worry, it'll start off easy.

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>>377257090
against what, who or when? some sort of digital dragon that's trying to seize that post or something?

>>377257090
Yeah, I really need my FPS in a turn based strategy game.

>cherry picks a game with tons of units at once just to showcase something meaningless

Sad.

>>377257349
so 4c isn't sufficient when you have a lot of thing on screen eh ....

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>>377257349
Good, good; that was the answer I was expecting.

Let's bump it up a bit more, shall we?

>>377257485
It's also doing AI for like 7 NPC characters and the barbarians.

Nothing that happens in a game where 5 FPS might matter.


>>377257575
>2 fps

within margin of error

uh why the fuck is the clockspeed of the 7700k blocked out

what clockspeed is it running at

>>377257485
Give the 7600k a small OC boost - that's what you get a k-unit for - and you have your 60fps on a quadcore.

Though I'd wish a bit more info on how the test was executed. The AMD sorting looks strage as well.
>>377257575
>GPU matters more than CPU in GPU-intensive games

Gee who would've thought

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>>377257485
Lets put a few more things on screen and see what happens.

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>>377257630
>>377257692
>>377257741
Yeah; I dropped the ball on that one.

Here's something better.

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>>377257656

SHUT UP

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>>377257575
What happened to your test? Works fine on my machine.

>>377256827

If stupid people can't figure it out than your product is not good enough for mainstream use. AMD needs to step up when releasing products so that they work without updates to bios.

>>377257806
Yeah, I'd really like to see more details on that one. Clearly it's not the core count that's at fault here if the 1500x can pull.

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>>377257806
Just get the i3 to outperform them all, lol.

>>377257902
They do, if you had to update your bios just to have your processor work than you'd never be able to use your computer. You are a liar, and have a no clue what you are talking about.

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>>377257925
>Clearly GPU-bound
Here's another one, anon. Have you seen frametimes before?

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>>377258154
All of the day, bro.

>>377257809
nah I'm an amd fan I just wanted to know how much goytel got rekt because you literally cannot see the clockspeed in the op pic

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>>377258240
>No frametimes
Errr, how about lows instead of averages? Wouldn't want a stuttering pootel processor, now would you?

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>>377258481

>>377258154
this is a good chart. Who made these plots?

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>>377258481
So we're done then? Good game Anon, we should play again sometime.

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>>377258695

>No answer
Kek. Why even grab an i7 when you can grab an R5 for a smoother experience instead?

Have you played Prey yet, anon?

>>377258840
Almost definitely sure it's from one of OP's videos.

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>5ghz 7600K
>1600 at 1600X clocks
fuck me you could just get a 1600X out of the box, not OC it, and get that. You wouldn't even need a cooler, and the CPU is the same price as the 7600K

>those clear GC cycles in Hitmang
So this is the power of poorly configured GC

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>>377259069
why are you bragging about single FPS differences above 60 FPS

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>>377259373
Because frametime is a thing, but I guess he's not willing to show it.

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>>377259160
>>377259373
You asked for minimum, I've been giving you minimum. What more do you want, or are we moving the goalposts to something new?

AMD have basically caught up to Intel, but getting some place second is still losing.

>>377259160
>Almost definitely sure it's from one of OP's videos.
it is, thanks

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>>377259465
Any other sources from TPU, anon?

>>377259615
Oh are they biased now? Sorry, what outlet should I use?

>>377259687
No, of course not. I was just asking.

You running out yet, or do you only have TPU?

>>377259752
They were all from the same test, you can tell because they're all file.png which means I just copy pasted the images. I don't actually keep a folder of hardware tests on my PC.

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>>377259862
Kek. Are we done, anon?

Good game.

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>>377259969
I can keep going, but it doesn't seem fun anymore now you know I'm just a phoney who doesn't actually hoard hardware tests.

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>>377260095
Not fun without all the (You)s flowing in.

I'll just dump the rest and let the thread die.

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And i'm finished.

No more sense going through old archived Ryzen threads.

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>>377260261
Well it's not really "all the (You)s" so much as it's just me, the thread has been dead a while.

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Ryzen for gaming hasnt been too bad
I would OC my ram but i fucked that up earlier today.

Might try again later but not to what i shot for

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>>377259969
That's not even the funniest Watchdogs bench

8370 above stock 2500K

The multithreading prophecy came true, it just took six years

>>377259969
>>377260658
oh wait nvm yours has the 2500K too, didn't see that

>>377260658
Honestly, Watch Dogs 2 scales amazingly well. I'm surprised it can even take advantage of 10 cores.

Still never buying any Ubisoft titles, but that' on me.

>>377246225
>wow, Ryzen looks really good
>I guess I'll get that 1600 model for 250 bux
>w-what I need another 100 for a new motherboard
>huh, ANOTHER hundred for new RAM
And this is how my dreams of upgrading from a FX-6300 were ruined.

>>377261084
Kek. I fell for the "Broadwell will be compatible with Haswell" meme, so don't be too harsh on yourself.

>>377261294
well I mean
5775C

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>>377259160
>>377258695
>>377258481
>>377258240
>>377258154
>>377257976
>>377257864
>>377257806
>>377257741
>>377257575
>>377257090
>>377260383
Since the beginning of time, AMDumbfucks have liked to focus on the ONE thing their product can do decently and run with it, fuck everything else.
For the graphics cards? DX12, that's it
FX series, dogshit at everything, still tried to market it for workstatios
Now for Ryzen? Minimums and frametimes despite most of the graphs being bogus, and good luck getting your ram speed up anyway.
They are incredibly hypocritical fuckers, graph shows Ryzen performing badly? "SHILL SHILL INCORRECT FALSE FAKE"
Graph shows Ryzen performing decently in minimum framerates? "LMAO STUTTERLAKE ECKS DEE STUPID JEW OY VEY"
Meanwhile on the AMD forum. "Having stutter issues in (insert game here), having RAM issues, having adobe issues, etc"

Rinse and repeat, every year, never learning, purposefully shooting themselves in the foot and trying to get others to do the same cause MUH UNDERDOG

>have i5-4440
>bretty good
>have Ryzen 5 1600
>bretty gooder
cant complain honestly

Intel iJew fanboys' tears are tasty.

Hey, faggots, you can substitute "pleb" with economically smarter than you.

The good old days of the shitty pentium 4s and nVidias 5900 have returned.

>>377261874
>being so buttblasted that you selected all those posts, typed that block up, and actually saved that image
Your autism is commendable, but turns me away from your argument

>>377262081
Took me a minute to do everything, I don't have to run my posts through google translate like you Raja

>>377261874
>Pootel shill can't even separate the pro-AMD benchmarks from the pro-Intel benchmarks
Disappointing; just like your HEDT processors.

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>>377246225
heh, glad I got my ryzen day one
jewtel never gets these kinds of performance increases

Ehh, I've only got an i7 4790, so when that shits out on me I'll probably upgrade to whatever AMD puts out after Ryzen or whatever their Ryzen refresh is.
Hell, I didn't even upgrade from my old Q8200 until like 2014, so I'll be hanging on to this CPU until at least 2019.
Don't think I'll be going with Intel again unless their i7s drop to below $250, only reason I got this i7 is because I got it in a bundle with 8 GB of RAM and a mobo for $350.

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>>377262206
Kek. Just wait for the 112W quad-core i7, good goy!

>>377262278
2019 will be a good year, 7nm+ Zen3 is supposed to be out then

>>377254128
>8gb of ram in the year 2017

pleb

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>>377262206
>AMD sponsored game
>First mission in dubai
>Runs like shit

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>>377262514
>AMD sponsored game
>Runs amazingly

>>377262514
runs better than Fallout 4, with Nvidia sponsored godrays with 64x tessellation

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>people saying good goy about Intel while simultaneously shilling products and getting hyped about buying them or another company

>>377262443
>For vidya
Name one(1) game that requires 16GB of RAM.

>>377262667
Lol no it doesnt
GTX1080 dude sex-90 fps
GTX1080 Fallout 4 godrays and tessellation-130fps

>>377262774
They really don't get it
They'll call you a shill and tell you to buy a 1700 in the same sentences

>>377262819
and which looks better
http://gigapixelgaming.com/media/gigapixel/NukaView.html
remember, this is what Fallout 4 looks like

>>377263032
>Moving goalposts
>I-It runs better
>no it doesn't
>I-It looks better

>>377262934
It depends on your needs, honestly. But there's literally no reason to buy i5s and the majority of i7s anymore, now that R5s and R7s are out.

>>377263032
Are you fucking retarded? Is that supposed to look good?

>>377263148
Something ancient like Oblivion will get higher FPS on a modern machine, that doesn't mean it runs better. You're just redefining the word "run" to mean "absolute FPS regardless of how it looks"

And you accuse me of moving goalposts

>>377263161
what if you're CPU budget is under $100?

>>377263310
>Says runs
>Proven wrong
>Moves to looks
yes, you moved the goalpost, not far, but it was moved so I put it back
Now stop moving it young man or you won't get dessert

>>377263291
Exactly. The guy I'm replying to say that because that gets 130 FPS, it runs better than Deus Ex MD which gets 90 FPS

>>377263331
Then get the Pentium G4560 with hyperthreading. What the fuck is Intel doing with their i3 lineup?

Despite the obvious paid shills itt, nothing has convinced me to upgrade my current 4690k. Your memes claiming 4cores don't work for games anymore is utter bullshit.

How much do you guys think the 16 core enthusiast SKU will cost?

>>377263504
I really think that i3s were never meant for desktops

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>>377263591
>4cores

lel, try 16 and 20 cores, pleb

>>377263430
You're an idiot, "run" is based on computational efficiency. If the purpose of a graphics pipeline is to look good, the one that gives superior looking output per unit of computation is the one that runs better.

eg. Fallout 4 having 7.7ms frametime average vs DXMD's 11.1ms frametime average is irrelevant when DXMD looks magnitudes better. A magnitude which far outstrips the 40%~ higher computational cost.

Deus Ex MD runs better

>>377248619
I can't get my 2400 to hit spec with my 6600k.

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>>377263734

>>377258107
You can update bios without having the processor working, all one needs is a previous gen processor and the right bios flash file

we do it all the time for 7th gen processors in old boards

>>377262614

It also runs like shit on intel + nvidia. As it should. Fuck everyone of you intelvidia fanboys, amd users have been taking the "THEWAYITSMEANTTOBEPLAYED" for far too long. Eat a dick. Fuck you.

>tfw want to get R5 1600X for streaming
>tfw barely better for pure gaming
>tfw would have to go to W10
>tfw W10 is $150 for home version
>tfw would have to get new DDR4 ram

>>377263802
Deus ex is practically a corridor shooter most of the time and runs like trash compared to an open world game like fallout which still runs miles better.

>>377264234
At this point it's bait

>>377263976
Yeah, except AMDs old processors are the FX series which are incompatible with AM4.

>>377264234
>Fallout 4 running alright
What universe am I in?

>>377263989
No it doesn't. Nvidia averages up to 20fps more than amd even with the latest patch. Intel systems also have the slight edge over ryzen systems too.

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>>377264182
>tfw I have to do the same with Intel

>>377264182
yes, good goy

>>377264435
fuck us both up

>>377264356

My point is that AMD releases the board and processor at the same time, they are meant to be paired together but they are incompatible out of the box without updates.

Is R7 1700 more than enough or do I have to go all the way to 1800X for high end all round PC build.

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>>377264376
?

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>>377264376

>no u

Well, personal experience tells me otherwise. Try harder.

This whole thread.

>>377264371
>fallout 4
>gtx 1070
>max settings except for godrays
>locked 60 fps 1440p when running around open world

>deus ex
>max settings except for volumetric lighting and screenspace reflections
>30-40 fps 1440p

Wait, so /v/ hates day one DLC but it's cool is AMD does it?

>1070
>gpu usage 50%
>FPS 120

>>377264182
just get enterprise and disable telemetry

>>377264538
You are fucking retarded, do you work for geeksquad by any chance? Because If that was true you would never be able to get a ryzen system working, because you need the cpu to be able to boot into the bios to update it.

>>377264635
>post is in reference to another post with a prey screenshot
>talks about some random other game

>>377264658
https://youtu.be/OwmzfkiJYhE

>>377264729
yes, good goy

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>>377256240
>15-35W more
>not enough to justify upgrade in PSU
WOOOOW
also
>rumor

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>>377264538
I do believe you're talking out of your ass

>>377256240
>not comparing the top SKU of each

simply retarded

>>377264538
That never happened holy shit lol

if the computer wasn't booting that wouldn't be a BIOS update issue, it was just a DOA board. That or the idiot shorted the thing somehow.

>3600MHZ RAM
boy I sure like paying more for my RAM than my CPU to get decent performance

>>377265293
>Being a poorfag
/v/ will never learn, will they?

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*yawn*

>>377264663
do you think "maxed" between the games is comparable at all

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>>377265339
>ryzens whole selling point is that it destroys intel in value for money
>"what are you poor?"

>>377265079
Heat output is the concern, not power supply

>tfw too lazy to remove all the fans and noctua cooler from old system
>tfw just gonna spend another $250 on a new case and noctua

If AMD could get Ryzen to 4.5ghz comfortably, Intel would be BTFO

>>377265372
That has as much relation to performance in Dolphin as scribbling on wet sand does to the economy

>>377265079
TDP isn't defined in terms of power draw, it's a measure of heat output

Hence
>THERMAL design power

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>>377265421
>there is a $500 Ryzen SKU

yeah sure

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>>377265421
>Literally BTFOs Intel's HEDT processors
>Inb4 it's all about gaming

>>377265623
And it beats or equals a $1000 processor

>>377265636
wtf foreign lanugage is that, Swahili?

Here we speak ANGLISH

>>377265561

>I'll take raw IPC and peak clock speed single thread performance for $1000, Alex

>>377247405
>stutterlake
nah thx im good

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>>377253853
>Zen IPC is on par or better than Kaby, only gap is clock speed.

LOL!
OK, here's $330 Kabylake chip underclocked to 3.8ghz (from stock 4.5ghz) to meet $500 Ryzen chip.
Hmm, Ryzen chip still losing, in a game that utilizes all 8 cores! What can this be, anonymous poster said Ryzen IPC is as good as kaby...?

>>377265764
German.

>>377265114
>>377264885

I'm not talking out of my ass because it did happen.

>>377265906
Kek. Just scroll a bit up, anon. Day one benchmarks aren't up to date anymore.

>>377265906
Are you fucking retarded, comparing IPC through games?

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

>>377265906
Read your Agner, just because current compilers aren't using the 5th uop decode unit doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

That's pre-patch as well

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>>377266015
No it didn't, it factually could not have happened. For reasons I have already explained.

Maybe the guy got an am3+ motherboard by mistake? Maybe he fired his motherboard somehow like some other anon said.

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>>377266203
Don't worry, there is synthetics benchmark for you as well! Hm, not so good story for Ryzen here also.

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>>377265719
sorry, you're just wrong

>>377265906
useless shit graph
what ram were they using, at what speed, how much was stutterlake stuttering ?
also those tests are done on pcs with nothing running but the test program, i want to see a 7700k tested while recording, having multiple tabs of chrome open, and other shit

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don't mind me! I am just $500 AMD processor losing to generation-old $60 Intel processor

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>>377266320
Kek. Is this for real?

>>377266404
Who the fuck buys $1,000 processors for gaming?

>>377266474
inteldrones are so desperate

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hello, $500 8 core ryzen chip here, as my master has told I have great multi core performance

w-wait, $330 4 core kaby chip beated me in winrar which use up to 20 threads? haha

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>>377266404
>paying 50% more for 5-10% more performance
Yeah, go for it dude

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surely $500 ryzen chip must perform well in DX12 game which uses 8 cores, such as tomb raider and ashes? see also >>377265906

oh, whoops, actually $330 4-core intel chip won here as well

>>377266620
nice job, but your core point has been refuted

>>377266474
I don't see any ryzen 5 on there.

>>377266674
so desperate, sad!

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t-this can't be, the 4k benchmarks which AMD made be performed so that the load is on GPU rather than the CPU, they said ryzen is even with kaby! where is my refund?

>>377266552
Who the fuck buys a $500 processor for gaming?

>>377266474
Looks like it's not using the SIMD arrays properly. That'll be one to watch for patches once they swap to the new GCC compiler with znver1

Silly bugger probably isn't even running SSE2

>>377266793
Where are you getting all of these so fast?

>>377266860
AMD defense force

I don't own anything AMD, but I hope they get good again. Only a stupid fucker wants jewtel monopoly.

Or any kind of monopoly where you're the consumer.

GO AMD GO

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>>377266793
>>377266859
y-yes, the flux compiler is out of order as well, and let us not forget the n brane posicaches! those are all unpatched!
ryzen will get better, faster, please believe! buy her now! please buy! as you see from ryzen review day stocks dive, we need $$$!

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>>377266860
Day one benchmarks

>>377266793
>CSGO
>min is 171 FPS
what the fuck is even the point. That's 2.55ms frametimes vs 2.91ms frametimes

>>377266940
Bet those paint Intel in a positive light.

>>377266953
>implying a duopoly is any better

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>>377267019
240hz monitor is standard in csgo competitive games now
if you look at monitors in any csgo tournament you will see the benq 240hz shape, tho they cover it as best they can

>>377247405
Hasn't Intel claimed it was going to shift its focus from performance to energy efficiency?

>>377267004
>day one benchmarks

They getting desperate.

>>377267053
I bet they don't

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>>377266690
Nah, like with anything it wins and loses in things. There's literally no point in buying a currently priced Intel HEDT processor unless you just have blind fanboyism.

>>377267135
youtube benchmark is meaningless
post benchmarks from trusted tech review sites, not 'techboxclickbait' channel on youtube who is paid money behind his back

who cares, just get the thing that will play games and work the best for what you do.

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>>377267205
But the ones you've posted clearly do.

>>377267243
yeah don't trust an actual live test, believe some sites that are known for being sponsored by intel/nvidia, fucking retard

>>377267227
you're point was: $500 AMD processor will equal or best a $1000 Intel processor

Centrally refuted

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>>377267250
hey look, i found a benchmark for this game too!
hm, it says different results from yours.............. looks like $500 8-core ryzen chip losing to $330 4-core kaby chip again, sadly...

>tfw R5 1600x is $320 before taxes in my shitty country

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With what?

A single benchmark?

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>Hear for years "Come on anon, you only need an i3, literally no modern cpu these days will get bottlenecked."
>Ryzen releases
>Suddenly the only processor that can do any amount of gaming is the 7700k

What did (((/v/))) mean by this?

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>>377267380
Ok maybe I should have said not universally, but it gets damn close in many areas and wins in many areas too, for half the price.

>>377267467
2400Mhz ram, you dumb fuck
at least check the test bench specs before you post

>>377266972
You clearly haven't read your Agner
http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#121
Compilers produce multiple codepaths that each run on certain CPUs. Some look at CPUID rather than CPU flags to determine which codepath is run, irrespective of what the CPU is actually capable of. Intel lost a multi million lawsuit on this, and had to specify their compiler is one of those types.

>>377267557
i delidded my 7700k, it's incredibly easy and only a retard can damage the processor while doing it. a cpu is not fragile, old cpus had no IHS at all, bare silicon always

>>377267557

Anyone who ever told you "you only need an i3" is a 3rd world poor fucking cunt, probably a BR or Europoor.

Anyone who knows what's what always buys top end i7 quad cores. 6+ cores is wasted on gaming today, maybe not in 5 years but in 5 years I will replace my 7700k with a 8 core i7/i9/whatever that also can hit 5Ghz and has vastly superior IPC. Like magic I'm back to gaming on top again.

Never buy low end. Never be poorfag. Never be 3rd world shitter.

>>377267673
>having to delid a cpu in the first place

>>377267673
Oh Coppermine 933, how I miss thee

>>377264729
>>377264182

or even better get w10 education which is hte same the thing as enterprise but with no cortana . It's also freee for college students

>>377262785
Not him, but Planetary Annihilation is terrible to play against bots with only 8gb. Guaranteed lack of memory

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>>377266404
Did I kill the thread yet?

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>>377267952
you mean the game which everyone on earth lambasted for being retardedly unoptimized?

the fact that an fx 8350 is performing the same as a 7700k in this should tell you something

>>377267773
Intel does have their ground up architecture coming out finally in 2022, but AMD has their Zen successor slated for 2021 so that'll be an interesting fight.

Also it's not going to be 5 years, Cannonlake is bringing 6 cores to mainstream, and 4 core 4 thread is already starting to stutter bad in higher end titles. 4c8t will last a bit longer.

>>377267119
>115 avg
>somehow longer than the other at 130+ min

>>377268060
It's annoying how some of those are lower is better and higher is better, but it isn't clear until you read the fine text

>>377246225
Even when Ryzen doesn't win, it usually has better min. frames. Probably going to get a 1700(x) when I upgrade.

>>377247405
>coffee lake

All I think of is a caffeine addict with the shakes. So we're just going back to stutter city, aren't we?

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>>377268114
>Also it's not going to be 5 years, Cannonlake is bringing 6 cores to mainstream

pointless. only DX12 uses 6 cores and no one will ever use that because it is less performant than dx11 and has an exclusivity clause (so if your game has dx12 you're not allowed to use any other API besides dx12)

they do that because they want to strongarm game devs to use only dx12 since its win10 exclusive and will get people to upgrade

>>377268060
You mean by posting images showing alternating winning/losing depending on the program, despite the fact that one cpu costs half of what the other one does?

Then no.

>>377268275
>going back
we never left

>>377268261
this is from the ancient outdated CPU-Z benchmark from when CPU-Z was literally bugged to report almost double performance for ryzen chips

google it

>>377268395
>those fx cpus

I am so glad amd finally got away form that junk. I think we can all agree that those cpus should have never been made.

>>377268341
What are you even talking about, the only DX12 exclusive games have been the ones directly published by Microsoft.

Multithreading is irrespective of API, you could make a game that uses a gorillion threads on DX8 if you wanted to. The point of DX12 is that it allows DRAW CALLS to be multithread easily.

>>377268428
Actually that's from the updated version where they fixed it

>>377268630
no it isn't lol

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And here's something /v/ unrelated

>>377268556
Yeah the design paradigm was terrible. IPC reductions from Phenom 2, intended to scale to 6ghz, narrow cores. It managed to compete better than Pentium 4 did, but not by much.

>>377268707
whatever makes you sleep at night

>>377268556
You mean you don't want overvolted 220W thermonuclear reactors that perform worse than a dual core Intel chip?

>>377268707
https://techreport.com/news/31841/cpu-z-changes-benchmarking-algorithm-for-accuracy-with-ryzen

K

>>377268745
Ryzen FPU stronk

Good god was FX's shit though, and did you know each processor only had four FPUs? They shared them between clusters. So two int clusters had a shared decode, cache, and FPU.

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>>377268908
Kek. Literally even AMD BTFO'd in that department.

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>mfw have Intel CPU and AMD card
I don't give a shit about brand loyalty, I just buy what's best for the price at the time. You retards are exactly the same as console fags, only more autistic.

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>>377268908
yes daddy please give me that reactor

>>377268891
Oh shit!

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>this hasn't been posted yet

>>377270018
>implying /v/ would understand

>>377270120
A socket a year keeps the goyim in fear anon

Is it the right time for a console plebeian to ascend?

>>377271251
No, wait till June or July for Vega and/or Volta to come out.

We also will get new Ryzen and Intel chips too.

The GTX 10 series are already very long into the lifecycle, and Polaris has been out for a while too.
Your patience will be rewarded.

Daily reminder that this isn't photo shopped
If you have an asus board you can check yourself

>>377271251
>Affordable hexa-core processors
>Non-garbage mid-range GPUs
Holy shit, fuck yes!

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>>377271528
Picture didn't post despite being attached

>>377271456
Not sure with the CPU front, but Vega seems to be aimed at enthusiasts, and Volta is set for 2018.

>>377271456
Volta for consumers is H1 2018, likely Q2, TSMC 12nm has barely started sampling, GDDR6 hasn't even started sampling.

Note: TSMC 12nm still uses a 16nm gate with a 20nm BEOL. Its not the same as GloFlo 12nm FDX with a 14nm gate and BEOL on SOI.

>>377271528
I remember seeing that during the launch of Ryzen, but it seems like that doesn't matter anymore, considering Ryzen literally outperforms Intel's $1,000 HEDT processor.

>>377271849
Luckily Nvidiots don't have to wait for Volta
Pascal actually has powerful high end cards

AMADs on the other hand have to wait, luckily hindus are naturally good at waiting

>>377271883
You mean the 6900k?
The processor that nobody bought and intel released just because people were bitching about moar coars? I'm sure alot of love went into that chip, man intel must be tearing up over the thought of having to lower production on that piece of shit

>>377271945
Thank you! I'm sure we can wait a month or two while AMD destroys Intel CPUs.

>>377271945
Nah Vega is going to beat GP102 just fine, it's actual competitor will be GV104. Sure AMD will give up the lead to GV102 for a year, but Navi will take care of that.

>>377272103
I'm sure it will, then wait again
>>377272085
Intel must be sweating still maintaining 70%+ marketshare and double the stock price
AMD losing tens of millions every quarter is a sure sign of success
daily reminder that it gets better anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyD_Q8RZh_M

>>377272036
AMD is cutting into Intel's profits, nobody cares about gayming when it comes to making profits. Once Threadripper is out, AMD isn't going to have much competition 'till 2020.

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>>377272342
Kek. Intel isn't going to lower any of their CPU's prices either, unless if they want to do some explaining.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/technology/intel-budgets-300-million-for-diversity.html

Kek. What the fuck is Intel literally doing?

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>>377272372
>Super power by 2020
HOLY SHIT LMAO
also AMD isn't making a profit yet

>>377272036
Intel's been releasing their low tier server chips as top consumer chips for awhile senpai. They were stuck at 6 cores from Westmere to Ivy, while top end server chips went from 10 cores to 15 cores. Haswell had a 8 core consumer chip when the top end was 18 core. Now Broadwell has a 10 core chip while the top server part has 24.

Same story with Skylake, 12 core consumer chip when the top server part has 28.

>>377272547
Spending their stupid amount of money in order to get brownie points from the gubment and everyone else
my company does the same thing, we hire a bunch of shitskins and trans rejects to do completely menial tasks so we get diversity bonuses, it's like when your little brother wants to play games with you so you leave a controller unplugged and hand it to him and your mom is proud for you guys bonding

>>377272734
Because server space is rented by the core
You realize when "treadripple" as Raja calls it is released no company is going to go out and get it right?

>>377272763
>No reason to buy i3s
>No reason to buy i5s
>7700K only i7 worth buying
Is there even a point anymore?

>>377250376
They won't drop prices. They will remain the same or go up $25.

>>377272963
Doesn't AMD already have a deal with Microsoft?

>>377272984
6700k is objectively better than the 7700k
Same gaming performance, better temps, better voltage regulation on boards, just less niggahertz
The main reason people aren't buying Ryzen is because they don't want to deal with it's shitshow right now, memory issues are still rampant, software problems, inconsistent gaming performance
I'm sure once this gets ironed out over the next year more people will be willing to buy it but the main reason people are still buying intel is because they don't have the time to deal with all the issues. For /v/ and /g/ fags that don't have jobs it's easy to sit in the bios for hours and tinker, apply hotfixes and updating your microcode every couple weeks, but not everyone has time or wants to deal with that

>>377273184
For mobile chips? yeah
Server shit? Expiremental towers yeah
ACTUAL servers? No

>>377273091
Becuase they don't have to
AMD is spreading the false assumption that jewtel is shaking in their boots and sweating bullets but in reality the fact that they are still following their road map releasing fuck all is proof that Ryzen isn't a threat to them at all. They thought it was before release, not anymore.

>>377246225
its may 18th and I still expect more improvements to come for ryzen and will continue to BTFO intel

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>>377273483
Kek. Intel hasn't followed their roadmap since forever.

>>377273669
Cause they didn't need to
My point was, their roadmap was "Release fucking nothing" and right now they are releasing fucking nothing