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Which one?
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The house always wins, baby.
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Not sure why Yes Man is an unpopular choice; I didn't hesitate at all choosing it.
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>>377243040
A better game
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>>377243040
>Not siding with Elijah and cleansing the wastes with the red mist and holographic death squads.
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NCR or bust
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>>377243484
This, the courier gets shit done, the NCR is a bunch of boring goody-goodies, House is a megalomaniacal zombie and CL is HURR DURR NAIL PEOPLE TO WOOD TO MAKE A POINT
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any other fallout game.
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>>377243484
I thought Yes Meme was the most common choice
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>>377243040
the one with the cute robot face, obviously
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>>377243794
A megalomaniacal genius though
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>>377243794
Yes Man is just so boring, it's like cutting and pasting together your own ending. "I like those guys so they can stay, fuck those guys, don't really care about those guys," etc etc. until you've checked off every faction on your laundry list. Felt so trivial.
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>>377244146
I liked it, "none of the above" is just as much a valid choice as any other desu

I really need to replay the game, I haven't done so since, what, 2011?
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>>377244146
Would have been better if you have to buy the allegiance or destroy the factions yourselves rather than let the securitrons do all the work.
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>not turning both NCR and Leigion against you
>not taking your clothes off and running into Hoover Dam as the harbinger of death
>not angering Lanius and getting him to chase you round the Leigon camp for 2 hours until you get bored
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>>377244146
I strung NCR and House along as long as I could.
I'm pretty sure I got to the point of no return with the NCR, then betrayed them for Yes Man.
So I got the best of both of those options, up to the ending.
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>>377243040
The Bull
Dialectics are already in motion.
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>>377243040
NCR is for the people who think they're the good guys or bought into the democracy meme

Yes man is for edgy players who think they have it all figured out, or simply killed everyone else

Legion is for even more edgy players who think running around in crimson skirts and nailing people to wooden boards will solve all of life's problems. Also, those far right faggots who like to roleplay as the real romans

House is for people who can think about the long term, and will do whatever it takes for a brighter tomorrow

End of discussion, let's discuss your favorite lewd mods now
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>>377243484
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Is it possible to beat the game without choosing any of the factions?
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>>377247281
I think there is a mod for that on lovers lab

This is now a sexus general, are you guys playing with brutal rapers?
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>>377243484
Yesman kills all debate because retards ignoring sword of damocles come out "WELL ACKSHULLY MY 10/10 Immortal cyborg waifu mary sue is the best option for vegas because i also have a settlement mod installed"
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>>377243040
Originally, the failsafe was going the fuck out through I-15 but playtesters being literal retarded monkeys decided that it makes the gaem too short and too easy and pls remove.
Playtesters should be fucking executed
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>>377248737
>Originally, the failsafe was going the fuck out through I-15
Sounds interesting, source?
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>>377248996
Sawyer or Avellone mentioned that on tumblr IIRC.
Also there's a fuckhueg plot of land beyond the gate to I-15, not to mention the huge empty area beyond the river
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>>377249184
Link it to me or explain it better, I am curious. Is there a mod that brings it back?
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>>377248737
sounds like a terrible idea and the playtesters were absolutely correct. if you can accidentally end the game just by exploring then you have a problem.
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House. His intelligence, paired with his mechanical, scientific, managerial and business skills would come in handy for restoring the wasteland. Despite his ego, he can be reasoned with, and is only one person, wheras reasoning with an entire faction which shares it's power and has all kinds of power plays and poltiics going on makes it a lot harder to get things done.

There is probably no reasoning with Yes-Man if he decides to go ape-shit.

>>377243484
Because everything is in the hands of a machine who could turn on you for any number of reasons.
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>>377243040
I killed House then sent a nuke to both NCR and Legion at the end of Lonesome Road. Shit was cash.
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>>377249480
>Side with NCR
>They drain the water from lake mead and do fuck all for vegas

>Side with Legion
>Get nailed to the cross or sold to slavery at ceasar's whim

>Side with Yes Man
>Somebody hacks him and you can do jack shit about it

>Side with house
>Live a life of luxury and see manned space missions within your lifetime

Not a hard choice tbqh
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>>377246259
This.

I'm an edgelord who killed everyone else and I went with Yes Man.
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>>377249427
>Implying there wouldn't be a clear menu specifying what happens when you go past that point, just like the one that warns you that Dead Money is about to start
fuck yuo
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>>377249667
There is no reason to nuke either in the game if you really care about the lore, but I'm glad the game lets you fuck over everyone like that. Wish more games let you do that
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>>377249427
t. playtester who didn't know he can get on upper floor of lady boyle's mansion.

>>377249329
You could've went to mojave outpost, interact with either and NPC or the gate itself and pick an option to just go back wherever you came from.
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House is obviously the way to go, even if he ends up doing a bad job running things it's no trouble for the Courier to just kill him and take over himself.
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>>377249667
>mfw nuking them both right before they give me diplomatic immunity
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>>377250224
Well, that's shit. Still, Yes Man just screams "Gameplay solution". He stands out like a sore thumb. I wish the game would really let you get screwed over if you killed everyone or failed their missions, you could do that in F2 and F1 if you killed your family members or ran out of time, get a bad ending
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>>377243040
Legion. They are hard, but are the best for humanity. As long as the undying cyborg courier is there to take the place of Cesar. Killing Kimball and Oliver is a better claim to the Empire than anything Lanius has accomplished. A end game courier also should be able to win 1v1 Lanius as well. It really is a pity the game was rushed and we weren't able to see what Colorado was like. From what Raul said, Raider problem was taken care of and Caravans were safe.
NCR is riddled with corruption. Society becomes fat and lazy under House. Yes man is a just a failsafe ending.
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did you let fisto fist you? I always do as a female courier, I imagine he fists my courier real good.
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>>377250109
why would you even want an ending like that? because you're an antisocial faggot? too beta to make decisions?
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true to caesar
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>>377250804
Garret Twins got the axe when I found out what type of business they ran. Freeside swims in enough filth without them.
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>>377250836
For novelty.
Ethan Carter has an ending for turning around and leaving.
Stanley Parable has one as well.
It's fresh, a bit surprising.
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>>377250785
>Society becomes fat and lazy under House
>Even tho they have to start rebuilding civilization from scratch all on their own

You obviously don't understand basic economics, and how house simply improving the basic living standard of vegas would effect all the outlying areas, especially if he meant the whole going to space thing
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>>377247281
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>377251032
sounds anticlimactic and boring. there's not enough map for an ending like that anyway. you can't hide anything in new vegas, it's way too small.
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>>377251204
>sounds anticlimactic and boring
that's the point, it's the "I really don't give a shit, I'm leaving" ending for roleplay purposes
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>>377243040
I care about a strong foundation that will grow under a smart leader. House
you can't help everybody all at once
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>>377251034
We shouldn't make life easier, we should grow harder to face it. Once House succeeds society will grow fat and weak. The Legion is ideal because success will not defeat them and they rely on a meritocracy system. Look at the Praetorians for example, they cannot afford to slack off.
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>>377251204
>>377250836
For roleplaying purposes. Nobody's holding a fucking gun to your head to finish everything. Maybe you hate everyone and just want to ruin their shit and leave to see how it turns out, or maybe you decide your character is fed up with Mojave politics and leave them to their own devices. If you don't like it, go suck House's dick or something.
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>>377251479
I always felt that the game should at least offer you some other form of campaign only available to those players. A small quest, or an alternative take of the battle of the hoover dam where you're trying to do xyz for your own purposes, something like that. Perhaps an all new quest line that just focuses on you getting the needed supplies for you to get out of dodge, but still forcing you to explore the map and at least meeting the other factions
>>377251657
So what you're saying is that we need to stay in mud huts like niggers because progress is scary and we can, god forbid, get lazy?
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>>377251479
that doesn't make any sense, why would someone go through the effort to make a new character just to leave the map? if you don't give a shit about the story then don't play the game.
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>>377251793
it's getting really hard to tell who's baiting and who's just plain retarded in these threads
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>>377251913
i'm the retarded one while you want to make a new character just to walk straight down the highway and watch the credits.
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>>377251793
>>377252019
Speedrunners for one. That'd make for a funny category
just like SSU in Vice City
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>>377247601
Yesman is technically the independent choice. They do cuck you out of your character actually ruling the Mojave because Yesman installed himself some "assertive" personality which means that if any new lore pops up about the Mojave, they can just say Yesman threw the courier out of power.
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>>377243040
Yes Man, by default.
Legion are fascists and centred around the personality cult of Caeser.
House is a decrypt libertarian sociopath, only seeking to enrich himself and New Vegas at the expense of everyone else.
NCR is presented as being about democracy and a centralised state, but they are imperialists with no time for the communities and cultures of the Mojave.
That basically just leaves Yes Man, albeit only as the best of a bad bunch.
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NCR=Hillary

Legion=Bernie

House=Trump

Yes Man=Gary "Literally Who?" Johnson

Any questions?
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>>377251778
Not saying that we shouldn't advance. House's plan just breeds complacency since the progress would occur too suddenly. Better a mortal General leads society than a immortal CEO.
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>>377252083
fuck speedrunners. people who speedrun RPGs are the absolute peak of autism.
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>>377243040
Caesar's Legion objectively has the best ending
>but muh 10 int/cha yes man!!
>muh tumour

10 int/cha Legion is the best possible outcome for the Mojave, when Caesar dies you take his place.
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>>377252019
The point of that ending is not to just do a fucking speedrun, idiot, it's to go in, make the changes to the plot and setting that you want to make and give you the option to move on at any time to see what effect you've had on the game world. It's role playing. If you don't find it satisfying, go pick a side and help them meet their objectives instead.
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>>377252268
>Trusting House or Trump with the future
Enclave is clearly the best option.
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>>377252268
>Legion=Bernie
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>>377252327
Actually loled at this one
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>>377244146
>getting to choose whatever combination of outcomes you want
If anything that sounds like it gives you a lot of agency in what happens to the Mojave.
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>>377252375
10 int/cha/str/edurance Legion is the best because he can replace Ceasar and beat Lanius within an inch of his life in the Arena to prove dominance to the entire Legion.
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>>377252268
>lol le trump meme spout xD

House is nothing like Trump. House isn't intolerant, and House is actually competent and intelligent.

People don't even know why they are talking about Trump anymore, or why they hate him.
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>>377243040
The Institute
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>>377252447
>Cult surrounded by a group of tribal retards worshiping a dying manipulator
>Kill anyone who disagrees with them

Specimen number 1
>>377252327
>>377251657
>>377250785
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>>377252641
10 luck Legion is the best ending because courier can just accidentally into first world civilization.
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>>377252430
>Trusting the Enclave with the future
>literally go around murdering hundreds, thousands, possibly even millions of American citizens at will.

>before the war they were experimenting on American citizens
They literally cannot be trusted at all, let along with the future. They played their part in nuking the Earth, btw.
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>>377252693
Fallout 4's factions were all retarded, though. Nobody argues about them because the story is such a clusterfuck any way you slice it.
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>>377252693
>fallout 4
gb2reddit
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>>377252429
oh so you DO give a shit about the story. make up your mind. by the way, the House ending is the one you're looking for but you're too autistic to see it.
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>>377252693
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>>377243484
Yes man depends entirely on who your courier is. I'm not creative enough to roleplay deeply, but I still go with yes man as I see house as the only alternative-- but I think his space expansion plan is a 100% absurd waste of resources.
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>>377252693
>hurr brotherhood is Nazi's.
I want somebody to explain this meme right now.
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>>377252838
>mutants
>human beings
pick one, dirty mutie. You're probably still mad because they wouldn't let you into Vault City because of your extra toe.
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>>377249709
The space missions are a total waste of resources though, resources that could be used to: shape the wasteland, aid the FotA humanitarian goals etc.
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>>377252935
Wholly incompetent faction does dumb and blatantly self destructive shit in the hopes that it will all work out in the end in spite of everything
To be fair that does sound a lot like neoliberalism
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>>377253023
Are you with the liberals? Do you hate trump? If not, then you are now a nazi or a russian agent, congratulations
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>>377252918
I'm not the same person, I just thought you were being a dumbass. Killing every faction and walking away is about valid as the Yes-man ending anyway.
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>>377252935
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>>377252692
>>377253192
Sounds like somebody is a bit obtuse, and can't see the whole picture
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>>377253023
I modded the Institute to be a Nazi base. All Coursers had SS uniforms. Father had a brown shirt. Institute flag was replaced with Swastika.
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>>377253258
Whilst that holds true in real life I can't imagine that they take into consideration the Brotherhoods thoughts on a real world president from several hundred years in the past when they say the Brotherhood are Nazi's.
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>>377253151
The Enclave literally created those mutants.
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>>377253405
my nigga
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>>377253340
Ironic since house's vision is so myopic, caring only about his tiny corner of the wasteland and his ego-trip to space.
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>>377243040
Simple, EDI
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>>377253340
Hi, >>377252692 here
Why am I obtuse? I support House completely.
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>>377253641
And then they wanted to exterminate them. Just like those dirty Deathclaws. The problem is?
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>>377243040
House. He is the best hope not just for New Vegas but for humanity.
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>>377253305
that lazy horseshit doesn't deserve its own ending. that's what ten year olds do when they play a fallout game.
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What's the best DLC?
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>>377252935
>>377253308
Plot Twist: Maybe getting kidnapped and having your parents killed doesn't do wonders for your mental health, and Shaun completely lost it
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>>377253578
Are you with the synths? Do you support the institute? If not, then you're a fascist and you need to die, congratulations
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>>377253023
>confiscation or destruction of technology/information
>promoting genocide (synths technically aren't human but they're an obvious representation of race issues), even to the point of killing a loyal member if they're a synth without a second thought
>full society is geared around military operation
>charismatic young leader who emphasizes violent action
>first person you see on board the Prywhatever is wearing an SS hat
They're more facist than straight Nazi, but people equate the two
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House>NCR>Yes Man>>>Legion.
House honestly has the makings of a fine capitalistic ruler, and it is clear he's worked his way to the top of the food chain. He cares for the success of New Vegas and its people.
The thing is, a government's purpose is to shelter its citizens at the cost of the citizens cooperation. He did not want to force the tribes of New Vegas to come to his side, but did want the dam to power the city he had, his only attempt at any conquest or military action outside of defending his city. If his government was good and he allowed people to voluntarily join, I see no downside. Eventually many of the NV tribes would come to join him. Being in the decrepit state he is, even if requiring privacy he was in no way greedy and needed no luxury outside of said privacy and life support systems. Sure it may be a monarchy, but those have mostly failed because it misrepresented the populous equally, in which here House would be smarter than that and capable of a fair rule. I actually never choose him though because he's too much an ass to work with and I end up being blinded by my own anger to him. His downsides are his people skills and distrusting of others, in which there's a high chance he would not allow many human officials to delegate much of the rule with, aside from you, but seeing as the courier exists and rules under House, I can see him opening up to having more elected or appointed officials in his government.
NCR is like old world, for bad and good. Thing is people say "well if NCR rules things will happen just like before and the world will get bombed again", but considering how we're displaying a real world parallel to a fictional "what if America got nuked?", I would need solid evidence to why that would happen again when everyone's aware of it and will likely try to stop it.
Yes Man is literally neutral route where you think you can do better than everyone, but are you really capable of it?
Legion has slaves, I need no further argument.
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>>377254020
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>>377253675
What are you basing that on, he said he'd expand if he could. It took incredible effort, energy and resources to send those Securitrons to subdue those Tribals so he had a more reliable way to interact with things outside of Vegas without having to rely on Robots that needed huge amounts of power to signal boost past the walls of Vegas.

Viktor was the lone Securitron House powered enough to go outside of Vegas and do things.

A large part of Houses campaign is fixing his resource/power/manpower problems and giving him the ability to extend his reach past Vegas and the Mojave.
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>>377243040
Lots of people get tricked by House.
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>>377252692
can you post the original?
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>>377253675
Good, because people trying to rule the world ended in a nuclear holocaust. What the wasteland needs is an eccentric businessman that only cares about his homeland
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If you're a robot fucker, Yes Man
if you're a robot fucker and want someone to discus their fetishes with, House
If you're a normie, NCR
If you're a dog fucker, Legion
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sometimes the good guys lose...
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>No one mentioning the Khans or the mad max people.
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>>377252692
House isn't intelligent, just lucky.
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>>377253815
The problem is they are malevolent, incompetent, untrustworthy, unscrupulous, decietful and the cause of most, if not everyone's problems and their own.

Just admit that you like them for their fucking awesome armor and technology.

The Enclave are the antagonists and have failed at everything they've attempted for a reason.
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>>377254119
>Railroad
You get the point
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>>377254232
He takes a 50% cut which he pisses away on a space-program though. He also doesn't communicate.
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>>377254248
Its got an arrow pointing to the dialogue
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>>377254452
Fuck off retard. I bet you think the characters that appear in video games have health bars outside of the game play too.
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>>377253960
>implying house will bring the rest of humanity with him when it becomes cheaper to create robots that can do the same jobs
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>>377254232
>He cares for the success of New Vegas and its people.

House only cares about the idea of New Vegas, he doesn't actually care about the people of it. He just uses them like a child uses toys, playing pretend like it were the days of old.
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>>377252268
Please just shut the fuck up
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>>377254502
That Space Program doesn't exist, idiot, he just said it's something he has always wanted to do.
>having to make things up and lie to make your case.
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Did you know that you can tip over brahmin by "using" them while sneaking? Only non-packed brahmin can be tipped, and you don't lose any carma or rep for it
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>>377253989
Operation Anchorage. It's literal hours of killing commies.
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>>377243040
House

Fuck helping the Wannabe Romans or Wannabe Republic, just stick with the libertarian who'll keep you as his right-hand man and might lend you one of those immortality machines.
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>>377254598
Don't be so offended. Even Meat of Champions says you get the Luck from House. That's his defining thing.
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>>377254665
How can he care about the city, without caring about the people of New Vegas? What's left for him to care about, the income (which is directly related to the people living in it and visiting)?
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>>377254665
House not only cares about the people in New Vegas, but he cares about the people in the NCR, too, literally citing that they're good, honest, hard working folk.

What is it about Anti-House posters who have no idea what they are talking about?
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>>377254741
Surely the NCR is the more stable long term choice though
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>>377254741
House is a fascist, not a libertarian. He wields absolute power, takes a huge cut and kills anyone that bothers him or gets in his way.

I'm not saying this as a bad thing, but he's a fascist.
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>>377254765
>he's just lucky that he's a geniust and worked hard for everything.
How are you even alive with this low level of intelligence of yours?
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>>377254484
>failed at everything they've attempted
Because the main character is never allowed to side with them. They would win in a heartbeat if siding with them was part of the game. I orbital struck the Citadel instead of them.
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>>377254853
Same thing about anti trump people, hence why I compared him to trump in an earlier post
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>Legion: tear down society and rebuild it from scratch, focusing on making men strong and resilient, at the cost of resetting the world's progress
>NCR: freedom and comfort, but also a ticking time-bomb that can't support itself and has the same mindset that destroyed the world in the first place
>House: progress and technology above all else. Humanity will go further faster, but if you're not helping you're left behind
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>>377254879
The NCR is about to collapse, they are over-reaching and their government is corrupt. This is a government where the leaders are perfectly willing to sacrifice large numbers of their people for personal glory.
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>>377255017
They are nothing alike.

>being a trump meme spouter
Pathetic beyond pathetic.
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>>377254901
>He's a meanie fascist, waahhh!

Cry me a river
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>>377255063
This
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>>377255089
Evidence it's about to collapse? Shady Sands is arguably the most prosperous place in the US
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>>377254820
He literally kicked out most of the population into deprived slums in Freeside.
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>>377254901
>>377255190
>Literally say it isn't a bad thing

You are an idiot, anon. Stop projecting.
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>>377255017
>Successful businessman wants to run the show after the dust has settled
You know I couldn't help but make that comparison
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>>377254942
I'm sorry it offends you anon, but House is just lucky. Luck is an actual thing and Fallout and that is what House has going for him.
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>>377243040
Followers of the Apocalypse
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>>377255286
>>377255260
>>377255182
You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet

You shouldn't be in charge of making any important decisions if you can't understand that. House did literally nothing wrong
>>377255394
I guess trump was also lucky, and became the most powerful man in the world because of luck. Gotcha
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>>377255219
NCR affiliated NPC's in McCarran, Chief Hanlon, Cass
People like Fantastic or Lee Oliver who get into high places.

>>377255260
>deprived slums in Freeside.
Freeside is a direct result of the people booted not improving.
when House was comatose literal savages were shitting up the strip, once he woke up he told them to take it easy with cannibalism, rape, and drugs or gtfo.
Majority picked the GTFO option now they're assblasted even despite the fact Freeside could be poor man's new reno.
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>>377255394
Ew, this bait is rotten and covered in maggots.
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>>377255569
>that courier
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>>377243040

The NCR is ineffectual in that it's clinging to old, corrupted politics in a new world.

The Legion will not last - instead of building a republic, he established a tyrannical empire that will crumble with his death.

House is only concerned with ruling New Vegas and stamping out everyone else. The player, you, are just a tool to help him achieve his gambit. He intends to create a House dystopia.

Yes Man, while implying could turn against you in favor of creating Skynet, seems more interested in keeping stability in New Vegas in accordance to the Courier's rule.

I pick Yes Man because a man has one life. He can fade into a footnote of the NCR; he can be obscured within the shadow of Caesar; he can be cast aside and forgotten under House; or he can be the King.
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>>377255589
Well yeah, Trump got lucky that his dad gave him billions of dollars to frit away on failed ventures
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>>377255589
House is evil, the tribes dindu nuffin, they wuz good bois who be gettin lyf bak on trak and shieet nigga before da house come along, u kno wo im sayin nigga bix nood moffuga.
And House keeps people of freeside down because he's rayciss mang
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>>377255063
>>House: progress and technology above all else. Humanity will go further faster, but if you're not helping you're left behind
Again, I see nothing too wrong with this. John Smith's leadership mentality was "You eat if you work" when settling America, which was what motivated many of the inexperienced and lazy chartermen who sailed to the new world to actually build Jamestown.
However I want to argue with your NCR take. How can they not understand the consequences of what happened and allow history to eventually repeat itself? If I were making governmental from the wasteland of a nuclear fallout, that would be one fo the first things on the agenda.
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>>377254820
He can't see the trees for the forest, if you will. He cares about the Idea of New Vegas, but doesn't care about or understand what it takes to reach it. In the same way he cares about the idea of Humanity but forgets it needs humans.
For him, Vegas is just like a Snowglobe. A perfect static image that he can't touch, but can turn upside down whenever he wants to his whims.

He's as doomed as the other factions are. He'll either end of like Elijah after he keeps killing people that step out of line or offend his ego like he does the Kings if they help the NCR, or he'll be brought down by the people he thinks he'll be helping.
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>>377255747
>There are people who still believe this
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>>377255589
Why are you bringing up Trump? We're talking about House. I fear you're projecting far too much into this.

>>377255761
You too.
House raised up the Omertas and purposefully made them into a corrupt criminal gang because it played to his fantasies of Vegas glitz, and then they plan to murder the entire city. I have no love for shitty tribals but House is a moron.
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>>377255589
>>377255596
>Ayn Randian, weak must fear the strong bollocks
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>>377255929
*flys across the country via Trump Airlines*
*gulps down a strong glass of Trump Vodka*
*chows down on a Trump Steak*
*gambles away all my money in a Trump Casino*
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>>377255953
>purposefully made them into a corrupt criminal gang
What version of New Vegas did you play?
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>>377255621
Anon, may we be real for a moment? I'm worried about you. It's okay to disagree with people. But to claim that anything you disagree with is "bait"? That is much more worrying. You're not saying someone is wrong for disagreeing with you, you're saying that they must secretly agree with you and could only be saying something different as some kind of attempt to rile you up and make you frustrated. You are literally being incapable of even entertaining the idea that someone could have an opinion other than your own.
It isn't healthy anon. Perhaps you need to take a step back and contemplate yourself and your outlook? I am not lying or trying to bait you; I actually am worried about you.
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>>377255989
Yes?
If you're weak you rely on stronger to protect you from abuse.
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>>377255953
If you can't see the correlation between the two, then I'm afraid you missed the whole point of the conversation

I suggest choosing the legion or NCR route, less thinking required
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>>377251184
He didn't use lube.
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>>377256119
I gotcha, senpai
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>>377256183
As a /pol/lock, please go back to thedonald you loser.
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>>377256162
The one by Obsidian where he literally did that and admits to it. Go play it again.
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>>377256286
Billionaire shill pls go
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>>377256183
House is Howard Hughs, not Trump.
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NCR is a repeat of a modern government

Legion is unlikely to exist 80 years down the track

Yes Man is a cop-out, but it may fail should the courier die

House is bros 4 life
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>>377256286
Trump probably rigged the election. It wouldn't be the first time a US President has rigged an election and suddenly and mysteriously won at the last second when all evidence showed they would lose.
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>>377256331
Not an argument
>>377256445
What are you even trying to prove? You swallowed the leftist kool aid and you don't know what you are talking about, I get it, no need to prove it to me
>>377256494
Yes, but there are many parallels, don't you think? Accidental, mind you, but I guess truth is stranger than fiction. I love hughes too BTW
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>>377256635
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>>377256635
It was the other way around. Democrats bet on an absolute retard, hillary, and they had to keep her alive, both literally and politically, all the way thru

All the current stories about russia and whatnot are absolute nonsense, the media lies like it's 1984. Crazy
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>>377256183
If you'd ever read a book in your life you'd know that House is pretty much exactly the same as Dumbledore.

Shut up retard, learn how to discuss something without limp, irrelevant comparisons
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>>377255783
It's not "you eat if you work", it's "you eat if House finds you useful". He's a businessman above all else, without any interest in being an actual government that cares for its citizens.
There's no reason he couldn't turn the people of Free/Westside into workers and drum up something for them to do, like become guards, work on infrastructure, farm, etc.

> How can they not understand the consequences of what happened and allow history to eventually repeat itself?
They're a stand-in for modern america, where the goal is personal comfort at the cost of everything else. The frontline army is riddled with corruption and incompetence from top to bottom, and it's said many times that the Brahmin barons control the government. Nobody in charge apart from some outliers show any introspection or care about the long-term implications of their actions, and those outliers are rarely in a position where they can do anything without becoming corrupt themselves
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>>377256868
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>>377256868
>read a book in your life you'd know that House is pretty much exactly the same as Dumbledore.
Opinion discarded. If you think Harry Potter is deep reading you have problems.
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>>377256956
>>377257016
You are both idiots.
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>>377257067
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>>377257067
>You are both idiots.
I'm not the one recommending books at a 6th grade reading level
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>>377257143
You're still being an idiot.
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>>377256889
>It's not "you eat if you work", it's "you eat if House finds you useful". He's a businessman above all else, without any interest in being an actual government that cares for its citizens.
>There's no reason he couldn't turn the people of Free/Westside into workers and drum up something for them to do, like become guards, work on infrastructure, farm, etc.

There is literally nothing wrong with this
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>>377256825
I'm glad we have an omniscent person like you who knows everything around. Maybe you should share your infinite knowledge to help the world?
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>>377243040
Mr. House. Only one with a solid long term future and a track record of long term stability and achievement. We're going to the stars mother fuckers.
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>>377257238
Neither is the person you were responding to, they were obviously being sarcastic and/or ironic. Your reading comprehension is abysmal to think otherwise.
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>>377256868
>Dumbledore
Jesus fucking christ is this tumblr?
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>>377243040

Yes Man is most fun and most of my playthroughs devolve into it after a while.

NCR has the most sidequests/content and if you can tolerate the whole "making the world what it used to be, warts and all" approach they have, NCR is probably the best and most fleshed out playthrough.

House is like a more restricted Yes Man playthrough. Only cares about his pseudo-utopia.

Legion is unfinished and has fuckall for content. I only did it once to see what attacking the dam from the other side is like, and to squeeze out all of Caeser's dialogue.
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>>377257382
Actually, I'm just up to date. Truth is the first casualty in any war, but I never saw anyone be lied about as much as trump is. If you really want to correct your record and you're not memeing, make a thread on pol and ask them yourself. Not enough non meme threads and discussions these days
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>>377257387
>a track record of long term stability

House has been around and in control for 5 years.
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>>377257290
there will be when he finally makes robots that are cheaper to maintain than humans and either fucks off with his cool tech and leaves humanity in another stone age, or decides he won't risk an uprising and wipes us out like he did the bunker
House isn't for humanity, he's for House
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>>377257016
Jokes on you I never read a book in my life. I just needed to think of something as retarded as the "blank is TRUMP" comparison that everybody makes with everything.
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House for life
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>>377257585
>make a thread on pol
>pol

Get out. You don't belong on 4chan.
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>>377243484
Yes Man is shitty because 90% either think it's Skynet(confirmed false) or that they can do literally whatever they want in it(lol I'll just go to space without House).
It's hippie shit or mean dictator shit depending on your karma. All those choices to stand up for Freeside/Westside and maintain local sovereignty in the Mojave are there to lead into Yes Man's ending. Arcade Gannon's dialogue about the future. The Followers of the Apocalypse. All four choices are there to represent certain ideologies, Yes Man's is no exception.
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>>377257425
You're an idiot.
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>>377257615
Except he won't do any of that. Because it's not good for business, and he's not a psychopath, let's not take it too far

Who the hell are you people? Do you think House is going to become some cartoon villain all of a sudden and just start putting people in camps once he flies over to mars to start a casino there?
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>>377257597
He's been alive and leading a company and making a vision a reality much longer than that.
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>>377244146

It's the player freedom choice, and more RPG games should include something like it instead of railroading you towards good or evil endings.
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>>377257691
I see some jimmies have been rustled

Guess you're one of those retards who cried about trump getting two scoops of ice cream while everybody got only one. Never mind, forget we had this conversation, then
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>>377257824
Well, House is probably a psychopath psychologically speaking but I'm not judging either way based on that.
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>>377257812
Mate i full on support House, but no one should use a childrens book analogy and expect to be taken seriously.
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>>377257812
wrong
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>>377257989
No you goddamn retard. You don't even realize why you don't belong and it isn't about rightwing politics.
You have revealed yourself over and over again to be outsider scum. You don't belong on 4chan or /pol/.
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>>377257691
/pol/ is 4chan you newfag phoneposting redditor
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>>377243040
I always went with the Yes Man as my first choice, mainly because I've always had the "fuck you got mine" attitude with this stuff.
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>>377248737

Pretty dumb for them to remove it. The new Prey has an ending similar to that, where you can get the fuck off the station halfway through the game instead of going all the way to the ending. It of course fucks you out of the true ending scene, and the main character's brother straight up calls you a quitter.
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>>377257989
TWO SCOOPS!?!?
CURSE YOU FLUMPFT!!!
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>>377258049
>>377258052
The first line is pretty obviously meant to be sarcastic or ironic, especially in the context of the second. He's making fun of people that compare characters to other character or people that they like, while also making fun of the leftist meme of comparing everything to Harry Potter.

I may be wrong, but it seems pretty clear to me.
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>>377258014
I doubt that. He simply sees the bigger picture. You have to break some eggs to make an omelet. The fate of a few dozen thousand people doesn't really matter when you are talking about the future of all mankind, rebuilding factories, creating a stable economy and a reliable power source to power the economic machine, eventually taking humanity to the stars

People who criticize House simply don't have the vision, they think narrowly and simply focus on his character, which is inconsequential in the long run
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>>377258191
You're a fucking retard if you can't tell why I was offended.
I suppose I'll need to spell it out for you. He said pol, not /pol/. Getting the very name of the board wrong in such a way reveals just how much of an outsider he is.
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>>377257824
He's proven that he's willing to discard people who don't have anything he wants, and kill others who even remotely threaten him, as well as manipulate political events that involve the fate of the entire west coast to his own advantage
While there isn't enough time in game to see his actions in a wide range of situations, we do know that House only cares for himself and treats everyone else as tools. He only set up Vegas because he needed resources to rebuild, and hasn't even met anyone but Benny and the Courier since reopening Vegas. It's reasonable to assume that the moment robots become cheaper than humans, he's going to remove people from the equation one way or another
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>>377258120
>>377258394
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>>377258394
captain autism has arrived
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>>377258306
I'm not criticizing House you defensive piece of shit. Read the post again. Stop projecting negativity into medical terminology.
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>>377257615
He already ignores the unnecessary humans rather than killing them. It's not his responsibility to make work for the shitstains living in Freeside.
NCR got what they deserved, they were trying to get rid of him from the start, why the hell shouldn't he exploit them?
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>>377257989
>boogeyman
>they are everything I don't like
>if you like what I don't like you are boogeyman
Ok meme image and buzz word spouter.
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The choice that was so perfect it had to be nurfed, Robert Edwin House.
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>>377258431
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>>377258485
Reditscum like you are the worst. Christ, faggots like you make it embarrassing to be a /pol/lock. No wonder so many boards hate us when we have shitty entry level outsiders about like this.
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>>377243040
yes man because all the other options are shit
if house wasn't such a secluded autist i might have picked him
ncr is a bunch of unreliable retards
the legion is kids playing at civilization
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>>377258639
Sorry
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>>377258554
Okay then, bye, outsider!
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>>377258431

Emotion is what ruined the world in the first place. Need cold and calculating business.
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>>377258660
>secluded autist
Why is that bad? You have a very good point about the rest of them, what's wrong with house tho?
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>>377258260
>damage mechanics removed because playtesters were retarded
>Dishonored playtesters discouraged after a guard telling them "get lost, restricted area"
>hitman makes all cameras tied to 1 computer, because retards are incapable of figuring out why deleting recordings from detective's office leaves tapes in secret bio-lab unharmed
who the fuck do they hire?
It's like instead of hiring people who play video games, they take drooling retards for testing games
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>>377258623
You can't imagine why giving an immortal man who doesn't give a shit about anyone who isn't useful absolute control could be a bad thing?
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>>377258716
Maybe I'm just getting too old for 4chan, anon.
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>>377258926
Nope

In the words of House:

"If you want to see where the other paths took us, look out the window"
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>>377258926
Elijah and House are both legitimate endings and probably the best ones available.
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>>377258868
he has no idea about any of the factions outside of what the robots or benny told him
he doesn't even try to communicate with them
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I'm playing this on PC after I put about 300 hours into it on the 360 when it came out.
Any mods I should download to make it a better experience? I'm not looking for any significant gameplay changes.
Also if there's a mod that adds more radio songs from the era, I would love that.
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>>377259017
That's one of my favorite lies by House honestly, when he's manipulating the player.

I mean, I think he's lying. He's either lying or ignorant and I give his intelligence the benefit of the doubt there.
The US wasn't a democracy at the time of the Great War and hadn't been for ages. It was already controlled behind the scenes by the Enclave Dictatorship shadow government.
House either knew this and said the line anyway in an attempt to control and manipulate the player, or he was ignorant of it and isn't as smart as he lets on.
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Do you think Lee Oliver goes through with suicide after House ending?
he's given something around 30~%
>tfw AAAROONALD KIMBALMPF will be impeached for his attempt to annex Vegas
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>>377259178
Check out the top files and files of the month on nexusmods.com/newvegas/

For music mods I recommend Mojave Music Radio Extended, CONELRAD is the most popular but it just adds a bunch of nuclear themed meme songs like the Fallout 4 soundtrack, unlike MMRE which adds vanilla style country music.
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>>377243484
Do people who pick Yes Man really think they're the best choice for the Mojave? When I picked it, I was playing as a courier who was just a power-hungry bastard who hated everyone else, so I thought everyone else did that.
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>>377259130
That's a good point, but keep in mind, he has his securitrons everywhere. They are his eyes and ears. Actually, people are arguing about muh morals and his character, but his biggest downside is his dependence on technology, which is why you have to blow up the brotherhood in the first place

No robots, no house

Thank you for bringing up a very valid point in this very off track discussion, anon. I'm still supporting house, tho
>>377259354
You don't understand. I know it wasn't a democracy, I mean that the modern world failed. Just like with trump, I want something new on the table, because the older ways failed. I don't give a shit about democracy, or what one faction is telling me what's best, I want an experienced business man to take charge, because he must have something going for him if he's still alive, and he saved vegas from being turned into a nuclear crater
>>377259178
There is a mod that lets you loot bodies and containers without going into the inventory screen a la fallout 4. Combine that with mods which add new areas or loot and whatnot, overhauls, that should be a new experience alright
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>>377259464
Well, if your SPECIAL is right, I'm sure your character could be the best choice. Not all of them are but I'm sure some builds and choices and set ups do have them as being able to surpass the other available options.

Yes-Man is the most fitting and Fallout ending for New Vegas though regardless, and that's why it is probably my favorite ending. Taking down all the invading armies, doing your own thing and letting the wastelands take up for themselves based on your actions. Fits the most with Fallout 1 and 2 I'd say.
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>>377243040
Flowey the Flower
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>>377243484
The steam achievements show that it's Yes Man > NCR > House > Legion in terms of popularity.
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>>377259354

The enclave is exactly what democracy leads to.
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>>377259130
You act like he hasn't spoken to any of them through the Securitrons. And all of his descriptions of them are dead on.
I bet you're a Brotherhood lover.
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>>377259354
Democracy is overrated.
>Let's get all these dementia and Alzheimer's patients to the ballot box
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>>377243484
It's hard to have a better position than House's. Obsidian kind of dropped the ball with the other 3 outcomes because they're either too vague or just downright stupid.
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>>377243040
Caesar. Without an iron fist, the mojave falls
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>>377259918
mentally ill don't have voting rights.
Felons, deadbeats, hobos and idiots do, however.
and there's way more of them than intelligent people.
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>>377252693
>neoliberalism
kek
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>>377257917
Finding it, though, that's not the hard part. It's letting go
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>>377260040
>felons
what? no they don't. it's one of the rights you lose
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>>377243040
House, as always.
any fallout 2 players here? I'm trying to get to San Francisco after talking with the guy in the gas station and holy shit, these Enclave patrols don't fuck around.
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>>377260157
Ah, my mistake. still all those other people have voting rights.
good for america that it's not a democracy but a republic, though.
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>>377260336
I hope you're not doing a Navarro run on your first playthrough.
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>>377243040
I'm confused, is this Video Games?
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>>377260495
Barely.
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>>377260398
democracy<<<republic<<<<<<<<<<<monarchy
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>>377257824
Bethesda/Obsidian would probably write him as one.
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>>377260336
Well, good luck is all I am going to say

Hint-You can go inside the gas station, and it's a good idea to do so. Just be careful, and don't bring companions
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>>377260398
America is a democracy and a republic
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>>377260582
>democracy<<<republic
wrong
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>>377259354
The Enclave are just an extension of the modern day intelligence community that sends us to war and overthrows rival leaders left and right. The majority of voters don't care and obediently select from the rubber stamped options presented to them. And it's impossible for random shitheads not already part of the system to gain the nationwide popularity necessary to mount a campaign against this. Democracy is garbage, and not in the "least terrible choice" way. It's far worse because it pretends to afford so much liberty to its participants and wages war against other forms of government in an attempt to delegitimize them.

>>377260157
felons can vote in two states while incarcerated and in many more after leaving prison
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>>377260943
how so? people are retarded, they need leadership
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>>377261493
That's why democracy doesn't work. Democracy implies everyone votes. That's a bad system because it is too easy for con-men to sway public opinion to gain leverage.
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>>377261717
this is why I said monarchy is best. can't be conned when you're forced :^)
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>>377248737
Everything you just said is wrong. It was never more than a joke and was never implemented in any way
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>>377261717
It's a double edged sword, because the people can also gain back power peacefully. Again, take a look at trump, everybody was against him, and still are, but he still managed to win by following the system

I don't think there is a good answer on the ruling system. That's why I run with house, I just want to see rockets going for the stars and begin again, let raiders and other scum fuck each other up while anybody who matters leaves them behind. That's the end goal, of course, but somebody who only cares about his own agenda also works
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>>377261870
Oops. Dyslexia strikes me yet again. I agree with your previous post >>377260582 now.
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>>377259835
>You act like he hasn't spoken to any of them through the Securitrons
He hasn't. That's his big thing, all dealing with Mr House goes through a Securitron cutout. It's a robot with a policeman face that trundles up and says "Mr House wants such and such", not the one with the House face you see at the end of his route.

If you poke around in the NCR embassy you'll find a note expressing their feelings on having spent seven years talking to a robot and never Mr House personally
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>>377261913
Sometimes you need to believe in the things that aren't true. How else will they become?
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>>377262286
That's a good quote but you're shit for using it here
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>>377259354
Or, if you're not an idiot yourself, you can see that he means "the Enclave was the inevitable outcome of a system of government as weak as Democracy"
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>>377262412
So that's what you thought when he said that, anon? Be honest. You're just making excuses.
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>>377262000
>because the people can also gain back power peacefully
Not really. Trump has mostly given the system what it wants while paying lip service to his supporters. He's yet to enact any long term changes. Even if he tried by executive order, it could be undone. Every other branch of government loathes him and can't wait to replace him with Pence, even as obedient as he's been.

The claim that the people can change rulers at any time is precisely why democracy doesn't change at all. It's an illusion of choice that discourages people from rocking the boat and encourages them to blame each other instead. The only way democracy could attempt to function as intended would be to hike up the volatility immensely by forcing more random participants into government and restricting the creation of unelected agencies, but that sort of thing is completely unreachable without another war and a new constitution. And time ruins everything, just like people love to ignore our current constitution and claim its authors couldn't predict where the world would go.
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>>377262976
>NCR has enough surviving records to base themselves on Pre-War, Pre-Enclave America, Land of the Free
>House, who lived in Pre-War Enclave America and was so rich and powerful he could easily have been part of the Enclave if he wanted it, is somehow completely ignorant of this history and doesn't know how or why America became a Commonwealth, or why the people running the country were a perversion of the American Dream and "Freedom and Liberty for All", or why the world ended
>the man who puts all his faith in cold, hard logic and mathematics to predict the future came to the conclusion that "letting everyone vote is stupid" entirely because he's a big meany on a 200 year long power trip

Like I said, it helps if you're not an idiot
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>>377263605
You sure project a bit, anon. It's worrying. It isn't healthy mentally to fall into such errors.
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I'm just glad that House canonically was killed.
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>>377263605
You didn't answer the question.
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The Mr. House ending with Good Karma is surprisingly nice.
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>>377264124
>House canonically was killed.

source?
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>>377252268
Oh my God the fucking cringe
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>President Tandi was so popular, and term limits apparently don't exist in NCR, she ruled for over 50 years
>Kimball made a big name for himself as a war hero and became President to get the power to start a new war
>Tandi was never elected, or re-elected
>Kimball was a military man, not any kind of politician, elected because he shot all the bad guys
>nothing is mentioned about what sort of electoral competition from regional senators Kimball had, if any
>he also happens to be related to the late, great Tandi

That's a mighty fine democracy they've got in California
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>>377255742
This
All of the options have downsides. I'd rather pick the outcome where I become the savior of the wasteland instead of a pawn used by a corrupt organization or an egotistical tyrant
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>>377265783
yeah, the legion's far more democratic
House is a pretty good president, too
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>>377266794
>NCR claims to be a democracy
>is not a democracy
>House and Caesar claim to be dictators
>are actually dictators

At least NCR has that 'all politicians are liars' thing down pat
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>>377253258
wait but I am a liberal and I hate Trump, but BoS is the GOAT faction. Synths =/= immigrants.
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>>377267434
>a-at least they're honest about fucking me in the ass!
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>>377255063
>Same mindset that destroyed the world in the first place
Even if that may be true, I doubt humanity would ever be able to reach that point of destruction again especially with the depleted resources of the world.
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>>377267962
>I'll overlook all the similarities between the Legion and NCR because democracy!
>America is run by the people, for the people! Any day now!
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>>377268178
except for the fact that there's unlaunched nukes all over among other pre-war superweapons, and now they're aggressively expanding their army into territory containing those tools in order to offset resource deficits
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>>377265608
>posting twitter toad in the year of our lord 2017
>has the audacity to call anything cringe
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>>377267445
>BoS is the GOAT
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the level of discussion in these make me think you guys actually from the game. like you're all couriers from different playthroughs talking to each other.
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>>377261913

I really wish they had developed the Legion more. The other factions seem to have balanced arguments for and against htem, but the Legion are just pointless violent edgelords. There are some traces of what was supposed to be there (suppression of crime, stability, etc) but you never see the good parts. I've probably played through NV about 15 times, but only the Legion once or twice because there isn't much reason to do so, both gameplay-wise and lore-wise.
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>>377269348
That's actually a pretty fun way of looking at the thread anon
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>>377243040
>>377243484
>>377253021
Yes Man, cause your courier is smarter than house and also not a zombie.
/thread
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>>377268671
The conflicts of the world are very self contained though. The thing with the nukes of the great war is that they were meant for countries across the oceans. The NCR would not make use of those nukes because the resulting explosions would be far too close to anything they wish to work with or already have.
Nuking the fort with an old world grade weapon would prove disastrous for the entire region.
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>>377243794
>the NCR is a bunch of boring goody-goodies
thhey are cunts who care only about getting more power
if the legion resembles comunism in that they seek to get the power to opress through violence and ocupation
the ncr resembles socialist comunism in that it gets the power by removing every other choice and using the violent enemy as leverage, we wont hit you but we will let him hit you
a citizen isnt any more free under the ncr than the legion
meanwhile house represent direct tyranny with no bullshit involved
the only free choice is yes man, sure freedom is nasty, its dangerous and you may end up forced to die or kill but its still freedom
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>>377269647
honestly the only difference between normal new vegas threads and "meanwhile in new vegas /v/..." threads is the latter seems to be more ironic
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>>377257067
i read harry potter when i was 7 you fucking brainlet
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>>377243040
Which is the Roman one?
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>>377243040
None I screwed them all
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>>377270402
>Uhh the left one
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>>377243040
The only one.
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>>377270487
That's just a privileged white male
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>>377252838
The Enclave didn't nuke Earth. They were intended to be a contingency planned if Earth was destroyed by nuclear war, which analysts were predicting.

They only murdered radioactive or mutant civilians, which is good. Clear the wasteland so life can begin anew. They are the true choice for any legitimately patriotic American.
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I still haven't finished my House run, but I think Yes Man is probably my favorite.
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>>377270761
why?
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>>377269625
I had an idea for a mod, where the south east part of the map after Nipton is being revitalized by the Legion. A contrast between the terrorism of the Frumentarii required to break the spirit of a superior enemy with what the Legion actually hopes to accomplish when it occupies the Mojave. Instead of the Raided Farmstead, it would be populated with regular people and Legionaries putting their life on the line to protect them from raiders, making a distinction between the Dissolute and Profligates. You can help them root out the raider camps and either accept Legion fame or insist you're working for the people/money, so you can do the quests without fucking things up with Boone/Arcade later on.

Only problem is, there'd need to be some incentive not to shoot Vulpes for that instant Vilified
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Hey a New Vegas thread

I've played the game a bunch, restarting a bunch of times (never once actually got to DLC), but now I actually want to complete this bitch for real.

What mods should I get? Patches, gameplay, or visual mods appreciated.
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I love NV thread
>Actually video games
>Actual discussion
>Fun debates
That being said, I am doing an energy weapon focused build right now. Where is some good places to stock up on Microfusion Cells? I need some shit for my plasma rifle.
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>>377271615
>uterus eater
>sexout tryout
>humping the mojave
>breeze male bodies
>any loli mods you can come across
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the elections are over can we stop talking about politics ?
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>>377271838
Are NV threads some of the best vidya threads on this board?
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>>377271838
Get Vigilant Recycler and make sure to buy all the SEC and ECP you find to convert them into MFC

The BoS will also give you free ammo when you make friends with them
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>>377271985
Usually.
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>>377271985
cyberpunk threads, fallout threads and soundtracks threads is whats keeps me from ditching /v/ all together
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>>377271615
ALSO!

I know nothing about the DLCs, but I remember reading a long time ago that one of the DLCs is ABSURDLY difficult, and another DLC (maybe the same one) is better if you do it at a certain level.
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>>377271615
YUP
Uncut Wasteland
JSawyer Ultimate
NV Stutter Remover
NVAC
NVSE
4gb Loader
Tutorial Killer
Passive Startup Messages
Enhanced Camera
Collision Meshes
Ultimate Invisible Wall Remover
NMC Texture Pack
Ojo Bueno
Tweaked Cash Register
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>>377271973
thread like these are the best way to talk about politics tho
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>>377272198
All the DLCs have level scaling but the one people bitch about most is OWB because all the enemies get obscene health at 30+. Just do them around 10-20, which is their recommended levels anyway

Either in release order, DM-HH-OWB-LR or swap DM and HH
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>>377271615
>Jsawyer Ultimate
>EVE and EXE (both can be found on the nexus, overhaul energy weapons and explosions respectively)
>Light Up and Smoke Those Cigs
>Legion Quests Expanded
>Increased Legion Presence
>Vulpes Inculta Companion
>Gun Runner's Aresenal Merged
>Lonesome Road True Faction Alliance
>True Melee Range
actually i'm not going to spend a fucking long ass time writing down good mods just check out http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas and don't fall for the project nevada meme
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>>377272519 here, I also highly recommend absolutely everything >>377272272 posted.
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new vegas is a good game, and i like these threads
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>Good Yes Man in NV
>BoS in 4
These are the only choices for people with a brain
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>>377273159
>Yes Man players are fucking stupid enough to play, maybe even buy, FO4
Not a surprise.
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>>377273590
>buy
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>>377272519
>True Melee Range
That one doesn't appear to be a real mod
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>>377273712
>not paying for Fallout 4
>playing your legally purchased copy of Fallout: New Vegas instead
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>>377273943
Sorry, this was what I was thinking of.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62032/?
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NCR = Bullet guns
House = Laser or Plasma
Ceasar = Melee
Yes Man = Money and Speech
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>>377274229
Then whomst be the superior weaponry, explosives and unarmed?
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>>377243040
>not picking house
>not picking humanity's savior that would bring them to the starts
shiggy diggy
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>>377274595
>believing that horseshit
Good goyim.
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>>377274496
Nobody, the Courier ended up blowing both their legs off and bled to death in the desert
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>>377274642
I want a happy merchant House mod.
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>>377274595
>muh father figure replacement

this board is 18+
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>>377274496
Taliban's = Explosives
WWE = Unarmed
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>>377274772
>house
>father figure
Everyone knows that Caesar is the real daddyfu.
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>>377273159
>unironically applying political beliefs to fallout 4
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>>377274642
>humanity lis literally going to die out soon because of depleted resources
>space idea and finding a new planet is somehow bad
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>>377275235
>dying out
If you're a bunch of stupid faggots like NCR, trying to recreate all the comfort and ease of the old world in a wasteland that can't support it

Californians. Californians never change.
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>>377243040
Yesman is the only choice. If you like the way any other factions operate you can do what they do but better.
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>>377275732
>yes fags actually believe this
Nowhere in any of the ending slides does it ever say that you take control and make the Mojave into Courierland. It's implied that anarchy breaks out.
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>The Independent ending is "free" with all the consequences that come with a weak/non-existent government
>As there's no higher governing or law enforcement body

Please, let's stop the Emperor Courier meme. Do your part to fight the delusional hordes with their head canon nonsense.
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>>377252693
>fo4
>cannon
pick none
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>>377274642
>not believing him
He might be delusional and out of touch but there's no reason to believe he's insincere in his plans to go to space
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>>377243484

Yes Man is the canon choice
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>>377277706
Games without sequels have no canon endings
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>>377277706
Yes Man faggots are like the pic related of New Vegas threads.
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>>377276075
Independent ending should've been shit.
However there' should've been ways to make it better, as in Yes Men tells you the minimal conditions to win the game but it is up to you as a courier to make deals and establish the infrastructure of a future government and economy before you take over as to have a smooth transition
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>NCR utilizes the freedom of the player the most and are able to sustain all non-Legion factions to a reasonable degree
>over half a decade later and Housefags are still trying to rationalize their decision through near-baseless speculation and fanfiction
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>>377278818
Isn't it funny how all the best NCR endings are player driven

Like, if the Courier wasn't there to make things right, NCR would be a shit choice because they are an inherently shitty faction that needs to me MADE to do the good thing for all people
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>>377278818
>>377276075
>>377278232

The people who constantly defend the choices of Yes Man and House are annoying because even when the game tells them the prosperity of their choices is extremely limited they still want to make their couriers out as godly prophets bettering the Mohave.
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New Vegas has, and always will be, shit. The only people who play it are contrarian Crestfall loving beta boys who like hopping and prancing around. It makes me fucking sick.
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What did my PC mean by this?
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>>377279661
Newfag
:^)
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Yes Man a best.
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someone should make a mod that adds a new character to the game called "Yeah Man"
He's Yes Man's more laid back brother
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How would you recommend New Vegas to someone who has never played a Fallout game before but likes a game with a post-apocalyptic setting?
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>>377280930
I don't think you can get more laid back than Yes Man
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>>377281026
>How would you recommend New Vegas
"Play New Vegas, I think it is a good game in spite of its flaws. Install the unofficial patch and cut content restoration mods. Get the Ultimate Version with all the DLC. Go north out of Goodsprings."

Like that, I guess
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>>377281026
so many new players miss this
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>>377243040
House is the only good option.

yes man is technically a good pick but the only way it works is if your courier is some self insert mary sue meme and for the average person, House is the best choice.
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>>377281026
You'll need some mods.
Literally necessary:
>NVSE
>4GB patch
>JIP NVSE plugin
>Mod Configuration Menu
Recommended:
>>377272272
>>377272519
>New Vegas Redesigned 3
These are good for a first time playthrough if you want a mostly vanilla experience with slight gameplay changes.
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>>377282089
>JIP Plugin
>MCM
They're not really necessary if you aren't, y'know, using any mods that require them
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>>377283380
but they're good mods
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>>377282089
>>377272519
>>377272272
I'm looking at JSawyer, but I can't make sense of all the changes.

This looks like it just makes the game way harder to play. Is that all it does?
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>>377243040
house, every time.

it just makes so much sense to me.
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>>377284112
>way harder
Only if you're shit :^)
It rebalances the game so that you aren't pretty much an immortal killing god who's good at everything by level 10.
And when you do play the game, set the difficulty to normal, and turn on hardcore mode when the box for it shows up before you leave the first room.
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>>377284308
I'm going to go to sleep now but be sure to buy the Ultimate Edition if you want all the mods listed to work.
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>>377284112
The original JSawyer made a lot of changes to balance as well as fixing certain oversights like Fiends giving ridiculous karma and added in a lot of never implemented armour to the game

It makes it harder but the game was pretty easy in vanilla, only the biggest of babies whinge about the added difficulty and the lower carry limit
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>>377252268
>Trump=House
c'mon son, Trump can't even speak as eloquently as a 3rd grader, let alone have the intelligence and foresight to be compared to Mr. House.
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>>377243484
>Unpopular choice.
>Literally the most popular choice in Steam's statistics.
What are you on?
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>>377252692
>House isn't intolerant
>Literally wants you to murder all of the BoS just because he doesn't trust them.
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>>377272519
what's wrong with nevada?
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>>377257562
>Yes Man is most fun and most of my playthroughs devolve into it after a while.
Exact opposite of the truth.
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>>377286514
>wants you to kill the BoS because basic pattern recognition shows they'll attack him if given the chance
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>>377259354
>Implying he wasn't implying that the NCR would lead to something like the Enclave.
>Implying that shit isn't flat-out showed to you in the game through the corruption and lack of democracy that plagues the NCR.
Holy shit, you're a complete retard.
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>>377269625
>, but the Legion are just pointless violent edgelords.
They had a point, the point is thematic though. They are basically the antagonistic faction, like the Master or Enclave.
>traces of what was supposed to be there
Also known as it being there, just not developed enough. Which is, theoretically, enough to give them an argument.

I think the most interesting point made about the Legion is that a lot of its citizens have no real obligations but also no real rights. It seems like it's almost Communist.

That, and the fact that it's literally meant to fail.
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>>377272332
This.
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>>377273159
>He even mentioned 4's factions.
Lol.
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>>377279051
>are annoying because even when the game tells them the prosperity of their choices is extremely limited they still want to make their couriers out as godly prophets bettering the Mohave.
That's everyone though.
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>>377279572
Nice opinions.
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>>377286807
Wow, just like Muslims. See how that wrapped around, Anon?
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>>377274496
Yes Man (Lord Death edition)
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>>377243040
Easy Pete.
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>>377243794
>the NCR is a bunch of boring goody-goodies,
Confirmed for not playing the game.
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>>377254232
>capitalism
>caring about its people

lel
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>>377265608
>Oh my God the fucking cringe
>epic frog face
>this post exists in the current year
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>>377252693
>actually thinking these four horrid excuses for factions will stir up as much conversation and discussion as the ones in NV

Fucking stop.
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>>377243040
Caesar's Legion. I don't really care about /v/'s pussy insecurities, that they're the "edgy" faction or whatever meme buzzword you want to use, I picked them because they're post apocalyptic Romans.
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>>377255742
>The Legion will not last - instead of building a republic, he established a tyrannical empire that will crumble with his death.

No. Courier would have been the "Augustus Caesar" bringing about a Pax Wastelanda.
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>>377289581
The Courier is a mercenary to Caesar and nothing more
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House ending would be the GOAT if Cass didn't die in the ending because of it.
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house, all other choices are for idiots who couldn't get into or didn't bother getting into the F:NV lore
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legion, the roman empire lasted hundreds of years and is the best course for civilization even it it means tearing the old world down, with house and the ncr civilization will only tear itself apart again.
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>>377270037
amen brother
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Yes Man with blowing up the securitrons and helping the BOS, NCR and ignoring the tribes on the strip is the patrician option
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>All those people who think trump is a moron
I can see why that anon compared trump to house, but do people here really think he's a moron? That he just happened to win the highest seat in the land out of luck? Really?

I know this isn't pol, but how do you even come to that conclusion? Are you underage, or you just don't follow politics at all? The whole reason he won is because you underestimated him, and he will continue to do so on every issue until you start taking him seriously. Think about that
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>>377290440
I don't think she ever dies. It talks about her natural death, not being murdered, her ending takes place decades into the future, when she becomes an old grandma, dying in luxury and wealth. I would consider that a good ending
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>>377279572
Yes true patricians like you and me likes fallout 4. NV is shit, fallout 3 is much better. Also only contrarian fags play old shit like classic fallouts, whats this are we living in 2000? Fallout 4 graphics is better.
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I'm pretty sure houses space missions were prewar at best. I can't remember him planning it in game.
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>>377291512
House went into full hughes mode during the pre war times, because he knew what was coming. Space missions are his pipe dream after he wakes up, because, well, just look at what's left
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>>377291512
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>>377291616
so pre war. exactly.
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>>377265783
The only thing i don't find bad about it is lack of term limits.
If a president keeps being good why should they be forced to resign after an arbitrary amount of time?
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>>377291675
The foundation is there, he says himself it's a century long plan to get people into colony ships. Not something to be discussing when everything could still go horribly wrong
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>>377270824
It'd be better of you made the area beyond the river to be Legion territorry
Bigger Goodsprings without drugs and some Legion-branded nationalism is a good start
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>>377273159
>trying to tie any real politics or ideology to the shitshow of """"Fallout""""" 4
It just won't work, because the writers didn't consider any real world parallels like with NCR, Legion or House, where each has a valid ideology and Player's goal is deciding which one of them is the best for post-apocalyptic society.
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>>377249709
>Side with NCR
>They drain the water from lake mead and do fuck all for vegas

They already help poor people in Vegas before the ending. As long as you're a citizen you're pretty well off since no other faction (except the Followers of the Apocalypse who coincidentally see the NCR as their greatest, though not absolute allies) gives a shit about the less fortunate.

People like to shit on the NCR because there are cases of corruption and the current president is an asshole but they forget that the majority of the faction is made up of good-hearted people, be it the ranger who tries to protect the weak, the simple soldier who tries to make his parents proud or the humble rancher looking after his lands. Things change all the time and you can be pretty sure that after Kimball things will be brighter again. Even the biggest cases of corruption inside the military get investigated and will be laid out in the open sooner or later.

For the guys looking for "longterm stability" it's really weird to be turned off by the flaws of the NCR but seeing a future for House or even the fucking Legion.
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>>377276075
Yesman ending should just play a selection of ancap memeballs for every slide.
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>BoS are portrayed generally positively despite being only slightly less genocidal than the Enclave
>The Institute is portrayed even worse than the BoS despite being arguably better in many ways

Why does Bethesda have such a boner for the BoS?
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>>377291391
Her House ending says that her heart skipped and that her last words were to the dam. The transcript even makes note of how the skipping mentioned is bad. From that I assumed she had a heart attack and died shortly after.

But a lot of that is open to interpretation so it could be like you said and that her last words were years down the line.
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>>377291679
Because it works both ways and a bad president who knows how to game the system could keep themselves in power against the people's wishes. Or a popular but idiotic president could keep fucking things up but carrying on because they appease their core demographic.

NCR got lucky that Tandi was a hippie and a really good President. Look at Kimball, if he wins his popularity will soar and he'll start planning his next overblown military campaign in no time. He'll be popular but bad for NCR in the long run, without any legal way to get him out of office.
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>>377292248
Marketing for normies. The big dudes in the cool armor are totally the good guys, you can be just like them! It's like Skyrim with guns!
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>>377289581
>bringing about a Pax Wastelanda.
More like Pax Vegasana or Pax Arizona
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>>377292373
But the Enclave are also cool dudes in power armor, and they have the edgy factor too

The BoS are just a bunch of faggots who just happen to hoard technology
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>>377271973
No
politics are a core of our society

It is delusion to ignore them
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>>377292161
>They already help poor people in Vegas before the ending
They help destitute NCR citizens only and they only do that because the soldier in charge of the relief effort had to beg them to do it.

Either way, the biggest correctional changes to NCR happen when House wins. Forcing them to lose but sending them back as whole as you can is the best thing for them. No waiting for Kimball to finally lose his popularity, no waiting for soldier's claims to be taken seriously, no waiting for the Senate to get a hold of its corruption by itself. Bloody their nose and make them stop and think about where they're going and what they could, and should, be doing differently.
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>>377292558
Best NCR ending is when they're given the boot, Oliver kills himself, AARONALD KIMBALLPFARK is impeached, Hanlon lives and becomes Redding's Senator calling out NCR on their shitty expansion while neglecting the needs of people mainland
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The Kings
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The political answers of NVs questions lie in what the characters do

1. Caesar winning, centralizing the Legion and prepearing it for the sake of passing his title to Vulpes or the Player is the best and most interesting for future FO games choice
2. YES man because the courier can theoretically lead to anything and has plot armor
3. Houses City state survives, gets into some treaties with the bordering factions, question is mostly on whether he manages to colonize space or do some form of tech revolution before a big enemy steam rolls him.
4. NCR dealing with their current corruotion issues and stabilizing a bit is still not fool proof

5. Gas from DM and the LR lurkers kill everyone
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>>377292924
BOOOOOO

Their biggest flaw is making me walk up three floors just to hear king talk down to me
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Can House and his army of securitrons and the followers of the apocalypse find a way to beat or fend off the lurkers?
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>>377292248
BoS is the Roman Reigns of Fallout.
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>>377291323
He knows the political market and has a ungodly good pr team but generally speaking, appealling to one of the most idiotic groups in an allready ignorant country doesn't make him an intellectual or fit to lead.
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>>377293183
Tunellers are a meme. Chris Avellone can go fuck himself.

That said, there's not much to worry about from a bunch of troggs that hate bright lights in fucking Vegas
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>>377293183
Yes.
Everything Ulysses says goes into the trash because House has his own reactor, eldorado substation Helios one, and THE FUCKING HOOVER DAM which produces so much electricty house can organize a disco with strobes and loud noise in every meter of sewers.
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>>377270037
>thhey are cunts who care only about getting more power

It's a necessity in this kind of environment though, even though there is a tiny amount of stability in the Mojave (which is brought about mostly due to the NCR) the NCR still has to remain as strong as possible to prevent the Legion from fucking everything up, the average person in this area may dislike the NCR's brutal tactics of securing areas but there is absolutely no room to be nice about this shit, they don't have the resources to be perfect, the land needs to be secure, the enemy has to be destroyed, the alternative is to have chaos, where small towns are constantly raided, hundreds of factions are constantly at war with one another or the Legion institutes a barbaric culture supported by slaves which will eventually crumble anyway when there's no one left to fight.
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>>377252268
All of those comparisons are wrong
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>>377293897
NCR's resource hungry, human wave tactics annexation party had been going on for decades before they hit the Mojave and the Desert Rangers begged them for help in stopping the Roman cosplayers over the river in Arizona. And then it was only at Hoover Dam that they realized that maybe the Legion is actually big and mean enough to have a chance at beating NCR at its own game.

They do what they do because they want to rebuild California in the image of Pre-War America and there's just not enough stuff to go around to do that equally for all five states.
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>>377292248
>Bethesda's Fallout
why do you care? it's not like its canon Fallout lore
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>>377254901
any authoritarianism does not equal fascism
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>>377292248
theyre only portrayed poorly because you have to trust a bunch of wastelanders who have only stories to go on about them.
Not everyone can agree with your opinion all the time can they anon?
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>>377254232
>Legion has slaves, I need no further argument.
So did Rome which was based on
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>>377294330
Yes it is fuckboy. Fallout 1, 2, NV and all the other non-Bethesda Fallouts are no longer canon. Only 3, 4 and Fallout shelter are. Deal with it.
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>>377254901
>House
>fascist
Wrong, he doesn't interfere with the business of the Three Families other than recieving his share of wealth from them and also says that he doesn't care what people do in their privacy.
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>>377294472
You're dense, silly.
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>>377294595
1 and 2 are canon still you moron. quit stirring shit.
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>>377293375
>156 IQ
>Drumpf is a moron
k
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>>377289493
>, I picked them because they're post apocalyptic Romans.
This is a great post. I love you, Anon.
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>>377294712
>quit stirring shit.
I choose to refuse your request.
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>>377294273
Nice argument you got there

Just because you don't know anything about politics doesn't mean any of these are wrong
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>>377291059
>He doesn't understand that the Legion is intentionally self-destructive.
Lol....
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>>377292975
>sake of passing his title to Vulpes
He literally passes his title to Lanius if he dies in-game, what the Hell are you on about?
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>>377293867
>>377293878
>dur hur le apocalypse comes again with these spooky op monsters
But why?
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>>377294718
Do you have proof?
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>>377294983
Avellone is assmad because he wants an apocalyptic setting for a change, but bethesda doesn't allow prequels, since target audience is too retarded to understand how a game with higher number can be before the one with lower.
So he came up with this mind broken rambling idiot of a self insert that'll bring about the apocalypse again with the lizardmen
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>>377294983
Because Avellone thinks Fallout has progressed too far in Post-post Apocalypse. He wants it to return to regular Post-Apocalypse and if he had his way he'd nuke the whole setting again to do it
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Why is ENB crashing my game? Removing the DLL and everything works fine.
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>>377295065
https://www.quora.com/What-is-Donald-Trumps-IQ
Really, it's not that hard. If he really was a moron, he wouldn't have won the election. He's not a politician, it's a hobby to him, but somehow, he beat a veteran democrat, and continues to beat and bait them at every turn, reducing them to crying children. If he really had a 2 digit Iq like some people claim, then he wouldn't be able to do any of that, and he would be eating his steaks in trump tower right now

Also, the author of the article talks about tourettes or some shit, but she makes a good point before that
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>>377294595
F1 and F2 are canon.
Even under Bethesda.

But they don't touch them and do their own thing.
There are two different lines,

F1 -> F2 -> F3 -> F4

F1 -> F2 -> NV
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Avellone isn't a bad writer but he has shit taste when it comes to videogames.

He mostly plays mobile shit and Gone Home and he likes the setting of F3 and F4 more than the New Vegas setting.
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>>377295287
>not including Tactics
It's just as canon as anything else, right up until they want to contradict it, then that part is no longer canon
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>>377295398
I would argue that Tactics doesn't even matter considering how fuck all happens there
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>>377243040
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1G173WJm8oF
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>>377295287
All the games, including tactics, take place in the same timeline. Just because you don't hear what is happening on the other coast doesn't mean it actually didn't happen
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>>377243040
So which one is the right version for Jsawyer, Xporc 5.1 or Jsawyer 5.1?
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>>377295474
It's obviously the inspiration for FO3's white knight BoS, the whole thing is a ridiculous mishmash of plot points from the first three games
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>>377243040
The one voiced by fuckin' Odo?
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>>377295802
Jsawyer Ultimate Edition is the best one by far.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61592/?
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>>377295857
The only plot that tactics has is showing how the midwestern BOS took control of the region, and how the vault tec plan failed. I really want to see them in a future game, or at least acknowledged. Fuck those retards at NMA that get triggered at the sight of a humvee
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>>377295765
Fallout 4 is so full of bullshit it has to be non-canon.
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>>377296054
What even happens in F4? You wake up, build a couple of settlements, and you either side with the institute or the BOS, that's all this means to the franchise as a whole: It's an excuse to see more institute in the future, because fuck all happens at the end of the day. It's not like F3, where the events that happened led up to BOS forming to who they are now in F4
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>>377243040
>TFW playing NV for the first time the past week
>can't decide on this shit
>head to /v/
>see this thread
Thank you OP.
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>>377294771
Hillary is better off being part of the Enclave for obvious reasons
Bernie is a cuck and comparing him with a bunch of slavers is wrong on so many levels
Trump doesn't have the same charisma as House nor the same policies other than dislike for a certain group of people
Wild Card could be anybody, from a retard like Gary Johnson to someone like Ron Paul
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>>377296294
just keep playing and listen to them all, dont let these fucking retarded shit flinging threads sway you.

They never sway anyone in them before.
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>>377252137
Not what that means. By assertive, Yes Man means he only listens to you.
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>>377295992
Is it really? It doesn't make the game frustrating, just nicely challenging?

Also, what difficulty setting is recommended for that mod, normal?
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>>377296327
NCR-Corrupt bureaucracy that only serves it's interests while parading as the saviors of the wasteland, hence hillary. Google Clinton Foundation. Enclave doesn't appear in FNV, I don't know who would represent them better

Legion is a cult, if you're not one of them, you die or get enslaved. Ceasar thinks he has it all figured out, like bernie, but he's a dumbass. His followers are blindly loyal to him, like bernie's followers. They destroy other tribe's cultures, like SJWs, and try to form one blob of a society, again, SJWs, and will persecute you for it if you don't bend the knee, again, like SJWs do. Women get enslaved and treated like shit, much like white males are in the SJW world

House is a businessman, like Trump. He has an end game, like Trump, he has an attitude, like Trump, and he ran a very profitable enterprise before the war, like Trump. He also likes to trigger people for some reason, very ignorant people, again, like Trump. His army of robots can be seen as the government workers, since he's president now, or his followers, many of whom are from the chans: The old school anonymous, faceless, but legion

Yes man is a meme, just like Mr. Aleppo. Nuff said
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>>377296294
Epitome of /v/ while playing games. Can't think for themselves so they come to /v/ to see what the hivemind likes so they can be apart of it.
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>>377296643
I'd recommend Hard at the beginning and switching to Very Hard later on depending on your build.
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>>377296764
Hard and Very Hard just turn your enemies into bullet sponges. Normal is only fair: 100% Dmg for you, 100% dmg for the enemy, unless the mod changes that
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>>377296628
>Yes Man means he only listens to you
No, he's programmed to listen to who he is programmed to. It's only numbers in a code, all it takes to change all that is to hack his AI
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>>377258913
Welcome to video games in the current year
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>>377296883
Hard and Very Hard make your choice of weapons and ammunition depending on the situation way more important, trust me.
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>>377297040
That's because they increase the damage they do to you to 125-150% while reducing yours to 75-50%

Artificial difficulty, even albino radscorpions are better than this. Just play the game regularly
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>>377269875
My courier was 0 INT
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>>377295086
>>377295104
>MFW the shit that's happening, at least conceptually, is the most interesting it's gotten in the franchise and Chris is autistic enough to want to undo it.
>Implying that developed factions aren't a good thing.
>Implying it'd ever logically reach a point where Fallout has lost its "new frontier" feel
>Chris think it's a bad thing and wants towns to be shitty, run-down things cuz' "setting lol atmosphere lol"
>>377295357
This, basically.
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>>377297180
that proves his point, because 0 into defaults to infitiy.
that's why ghost people in sierra madre had perfect perception and could hear a niddle dropping on the strip.
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>>377297112
JSawyer Ultimate actually doesn't do that, it just gives the enemy better equipment and stats (and not just an HP boost either).
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>>377297180
Did you know that the Ghost People had 0 Perception. And that Gamebryo reads 0 as Infinite?

Your Courier was the smartest human who ever, or could ever, live
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>>377297040
>Advocating for """"""""""""""more difficulty""""""""""""""" in Bethesda games.
Stop.
>>377296883
Don't listen to him, Anon.
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>>377243040
House.
The Legion has it's plus sides, but I chose against it in the end.
That leaves NCR, House and Yes Man.

Yes Man is just self-inset bollocks
NCR is just the old world done over but with hittier technology, just as corrupt just as likely to fail in fire as the old world that preceded it.
House stood the test of time, he protected the area that was his for over 200 years and didn't care 2 shits about the area around his - his City-State of The strip was all he cared about and ensuring it was prosperous and it's people happy.

The House was the best shot for everyone.
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>>377297378
>Your Courier was the smartest human who ever, or could ever, live
Jeb Bush?
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>>377297276
I'd even be fine with it if he made a prequel 40 years before Fallout 1, but glassing everything established with his shitty self insert is jkust retarded.
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>>377297378
>Did you know that the Ghost People had 0 Perception. And that Gamebryo reads 0 as Infinite?
Bethesda logic.
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>>377243040
legion, unironically
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>>377297508
>yfw bethesda's acquisition of fallout instead of troika was the avellone's equivalent of hopeville/Divide tragedy
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>>377297378
ICE CREAM makes sense now.
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>>377297419
>Yes Man is just self-inset bollocks
Awww....... Brits are so cute.
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>>377297448
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>>377297508
I unironically think Ulysses is a good character at its core, just executed kind of shittily. The fact that such a decent character study was thought up justify to "apocalypses LOL" is fucking infuriating.
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>>377297378
Wait so we're the ghost people supposed to have infinite perception?
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>>377297669
You see that zoom? That's him going at super fast speeds because he's mastered the human brain's capabilities. 1000% of his brain is being used......
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>>377297703
That's because Ulysses was changed through development.

He was supposed to be a companion affiliated with the legion - a mix of Rose and Boone but Legion.
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>>377296764
>>377296883
>>377297040
>>377297112
>>377297335
I'm getting conflicting answers here so I'll go with the middle option ie hard.
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>>377296217
>It's an excuse to see more institute in the future

Please, god, no
I actually enjoyed Fallout 4 for what it was, but the Institute was so fucking retarded. The whole synth thing and fucking teleportation just didn't feel right.
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>>377297791
>TFW we could have had a perfect president
>Stuck with an orange cheeto instead
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>>377297762
No they were blind insane ghoul-zombie-mutants in a tight hazmat suits, who have extremely impaired perception.
Obsidian however never expected a value of 0 to default to infinity.
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>>377297891
I want to see it redone by a different studio a la tactics, to make the institute ending canon and see it reborn under sole survior's heel. It could be remade into anything, the idea at it's core is a good concept, but, well, bethesda writing

Plus, I just about had it with the brotherhood. Liberty prime dies, and the brotherhood gets reduced to the same shitty state as it was in F3, that's it's fate for the DC chapter, I don't want to see them ever again
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>>377297762
They're mean to have NO perception because they're mutants locked inside horrible metal masks

But Obsidian didn't know that Gamebryo is that fucking broken
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>>377297826
>That's because Ulysses was changed through development.
I knew that but I didn't really see any of that with the way he was written in Lonesome Road.

His specific character in Lonesome Road wouldn't have made sense as a Legion companion anyway. Main problem was just him being overwritten (with his philosophical "this is what avellone wants to think about the world and fallout" being overstated and his character motivations understated) and the context behind LR being contrived and kind of dumb.
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>>377297898
Jeb let him win. He realized Trump had a hard life which is why he was always yelling. Jeb is simply resting until he can restart the Fifth Reich.
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>>377296360
Yeah. This thread's not really convincing me of anything. I've been dead set against the Legion and Yes Man from the start and that's still all I got right now.
>>377296738
Ok. I just wanted to know why others would make different choices from what I was thinking. Its also fun to talk about it.
Sorry I hurt your feelings.
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>>377258846
What? The modern world is 100% controlled by big business. Also the military-industrial complex in all it's heartless glory is what nuked the planet.
If the world was run on emotion every country would be socialist.
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>>377298513
>What? The modern world is 100% controlled by big business. Also the military-industrial complex in all it's heartless glory is what nuked the planet.
>Implying at the heart of these isn't some sense of ego.
>Implying ego isn't fundamentally connected to emotions.
>Implying we don't need to be even more cold and calculating.
Checkmate, atheists.
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>>377298002
This, so much content in F4 was shoehorned in from Fallout 3 with almost no attention payed to the other main games that are better written.

Fuck, i'll even take "characters" from tactics, just no more fucking recurring characters from F3 that were pure fanservice.
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>>377262000
I think democracy fails if your country is full of idiots. Unfortunately, the entire planet is mostly idiots.
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>>377298714
>Unfortunately, the entire planet is mostly idiots.
WTF, I hate humanity now.
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>>377298626
No, at the heart of that was the desire for increased power and scientific discovery.
If you are referring to the ego held by natives of pre-war America, that was a by-product of government propaganda.
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>>377247660
tried, but bloated too much my save file and I had to uninstall a lot of mods.
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>>377275235
Mathematically speaking the nearest habitable planet would be light-years away.
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>>377298692
>Fuck, i'll even take "characters" from tactics,
>Not wanting to meet robot barnaky
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>>377257917
lol
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>>377298812
>No, at the heart of that was the desire for increased power and scientific discovery.
>Implying implicatory implications.
>If you are referring to the ego held by natives of pre-war America, that was a by-product of government propaganda.
>Impulsively implying implicit improvisations.
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>>377257989
>Implying /s4s/ is bad.
Take it off and I might just hold your hand, Anon.
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>>377295283
So by your logic, George Bush's IQ was three digits?
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>>377299424
>George Bush's IQ was three digits?
Yes.
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>>377299424
No, Dubya wasn't a successful billionaire

JEB, on the other hand...
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>>377269625
Not every faction IRL is morally grey desu
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>>377299525
Jeb has so much money that it can't even be counted. It's nearing 0.
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>>377299218
Congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this thread!
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>>377271985
no question
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>>377299462
I'm speechless. I don't feel like I could communicate with you on any topic.
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>>377299629
I honestly think New Vegas did a good job of making all of the factions on the same level. Problem is that most people don't really pay attention and think "oh the ncr has problems with corruption but they're good guys overall!". No, they're completely corrupt down to the bone, actively stunting their economy for short-term and selfish benefits, and are bound to collapse at any moment among a shit-ton of other things.

The Legion is much more apparent with what's wrong with it and so normies just passing by think it's the "evil option"

Though, I'll admit, New Vegas wouldn't have worked thematically without the Legion mostly be the antagonistic faction.
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>>377299838
*being
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>>377299657
>Implying implications that I'm not obviously joking around.
>>377299791
It's because I'm too smart, right?
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>>377299932
Props for this final strategy. When you realise that you got btfo, preemptively make a joke out of yourself. Your 'humor' is just as moronic as your opinions though.
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