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This constant shitting on goty 2017 cannot continue!

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This constant shitting on goty 2017 cannot continue!
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>>377225994
you are talking about the booty game?
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Friendly reminder, that Taro only cares about feels!
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Toobie sounds so lovely with japanese VA.
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>>377225994
THIS, STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT RESIDENT EVIL 7.
FAMILY BEFORE HOES.
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>>377225994
Goty and goat ost.

https://youtu.be/oQT_LwV2qwM

Can Automata be defeated?
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>>377227024
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNJ6LO1QIyk
Move aside, plebe!
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Become as god, senpai
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>>377227024
Yup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcE4-6QGgpc
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Why the fuck commander revealed truth to 9s? Why didn't she just sent her attack dogs on him, like before?
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>>377225994

BECOME
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>>377225994
Dude Undertale but anime lmao
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>>377228474
I don't watch anime. Is this game considered anime tier? Persona 5 looked anime more to me..
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>>377228337
Over the course of the years she seems to grow attached to 2B/9S and their horrible situation. Apparently she was in depression as well, 6O mentions that Commander stopped doing maintenance checks and that her room is in complete chaos. I think that she couldn't continue this farce any longer and decided to give him the truth and face possible consequences.
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>>377226423
I really cannot take english VA seriously after side materials.
2B is a sweet and weak girl trying to hide her emotions, not a sarcastic bitch.
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>>377225994
reminder that /v/ loves Automata and 2B
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>>377228337
He discovered the truth himself she was just reassuring him it was the truth.
Maybe she decided it would be best for 9s to know instead of having 2b kill him again, its hard to say since taro doesn't think story is the most important part of a game so small plot holes that might not really be plot holes like this are bound to occur a few times throughout the game.
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>>377228261
I think you have to clean your ears boyo if you think that sounds as good as Wretched Weaponry.
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>>377228261
I'm really torn between which OST I like better, honestly.
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>>377228689
>ultimate silver haired bishoujos everywhere

It's certainly more "anime", and that's not a negative.
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>>377228474

Undertale is just Nier 1 with a $5 budget
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>>377229106
what do you expect from Runkachunk?
She can only do one voice, I don't know how she even got picked for this game.
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>>377229370
>I don't know how she even got picked
She probably costs significantly lower than other VAs?
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>>377228689
It feels Japanese if that's what your asking

Of course Persona 5 is gonna look more Anime, there's literally Anime scenes in it.
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N2, please.
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>>377229441
they picked a higher profile VA for 9S so that seems a bit of a pointless reason to me.
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>>377228391
AS
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>Bought it for the booty.
>loved it for them feels
I would never have thought, that I could care about two fictional robots and their struggle, but I did. Still, game is very depressing and I don't think I'll replay it..
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>>377230021
9S' english VA while good, is still not as fitting as japanese one. Sounds way too nerdy when japanese 9S is smooth and calm until the route C.
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>>377225994
Autists leave, look at your impact font meme image.
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>>377230021
>Look at his profile

RunkaChunka is actually higher profiled than 9S, that doesn't speak for skill of course.
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>>377225994
I was rather annoyed you don't play as 2b most of the game actually.
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>>377226131
Good, because I need some feels in my life.
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>>377230221
you clearly are new
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>>377228337
It's implied 2b has killed 9s several times already for finding out the truth about humanity.
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>>377230394
2braaaaaappppl
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Who made the androids? Who made Yorha?
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>>377230536
read side materials
she only does this via direct execution call, not by her own will
there was no execution call this time so Commander had a change of mind
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>>377230451
Yeah, I'm from /pol/ and /fit/. I don't play videogames that much. Last game I played before Nier was witcher 3.
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>>377230597
Humans made Androids
Android Government made Yorha
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>>377230597
>Who made the androids?
Humans.
>Who made Yorha?
Zinnia created prototypes.
9S' prototype kickstarted a fucked up version of his original project.
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If the scanner models are so smart why did they make them?
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>>377230723
This universe is quite expandable, but of course, Taro doesn't give a shit about that...
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>>377230794
Not all of them are so smart.
9S is a fucked up combination of personality number 9 (smart as fuck psychopath) and top of the line Scanner model.
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>>377229106
>sarcastic bitch

You seem to have confused 2B with A2, I suggest you go replay the game again.
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>>377230721
lmao the fitlet behind him pulling the same stance.
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After playing the game I've watched the route C intro credits scene with "Crumbling Lies" playing probably 50 times and still get chills.
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>>377225994
>GOTY 2017
Haha no. Great game? Yes. GOTY? No.
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>>377230794
They are good at gathering info, hacking, etc.
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I'm mad we don't see any aliens
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>>377230980
>Replaying the game
>See N2 in the fucking bunker

Fuck replaying this game plays with you.
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>>377231080
Yea well I'm made we didn't get to see the commanders and operators booty, live with it.
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>>377230736
I said it before, and I'll say it again. T
This madman 9S is well alive and alone with all the other androids. He shouldn't have been woken up, he is literally the reason all the tragedy that transpired in NieR Automata came to be. This guy is fucked in the head and should not be allowed to exist any longer.
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>>377230794
Because you can't mimic the family unit if you don't have any qt shota bait to kickstart those mechanical biological clocks.
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>>377231263
Nines just needed someone to love. He goes apeshit if he's alone yet he can be the most helpful and understanding person if 2B is nearby. The only reason he went mad in route C is because 2B wasn't around.

Number 9 is what happens when you leave him alone for too long.
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>>377230721
Further proof nierfaggots are casual cancer who came to this board during the election
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>>377228261
I legitimately love the unique sound of Persona 5, but it isn't goat tier. It's a solid 8/10 ost. Nier crushes it.

https://youtu.be/jjDO91gNiCU
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>2B's bracer/large sword baseball swing
>9S' spear throw
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>>377231521
>Taro games
>casual
kek'd
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>Expected Ending E to be fucking amazing
>It's just more galaga credits shooter

I got memed hard
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>>377231470
>The only reason he went mad in route C is because 2B wasn't around.

And because he was infected with the virus.
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>>377231470
The fact that his sanity rests on one woman alone is a dangerous reality. If anything at all happened to 2B, let say some freak earthquake separated them, the blood that would trail his path to finding her would be immeasurable. 9S must be shut down for the good of the world, place him in a 2B simulator or anything. He needs to be contained.
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>>377231725
Taro's games are all casual meme undertale level, honestly.
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>>377231521
Jokes on you, I left /v/ during the election
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>>377231725
nobody even plays his games for the gameplay, they're casual as fuck.
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>>377231567
Yeah, I would be mad, if Automata doesn't get award for best OST..
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsp5Zqqf4PI
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>>377231810
>The machines take 9S with them
Oh baby, does that mean the androids will eventually win?
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>>377231810
If they are simply separated, he will be stable and will think rationally.
Now, hurt 2B? You're fucked. And honestly if someone hurt 2B he deserves all the pain he can get.
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>>377231725
Anyone with an affinity towards causal anime sensibilities will fall for the shit in his games, so, yes they're causal.
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>>377231921
>>377231818
Casual is when CoD dudebros are playing your games. Zelda is casual, W3 is casual. All the shitters on Nier's combat/gameplay are the casuals. Taro several times stated, that he doesn't care about gameplay
>>377226131
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>>377232075
undertale thread level posting
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>>377232192
Just proved it yourself retard.
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>>377232075
The machine war could practically be ended with 500 madly in love 9S, and 1 dead 2B.
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>>377232192
If witcher 3 is causal Nier is candy crush.
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>>377232103
Like I mentioned before, I don't watch anime at all! And somehow I liked this game. Maybe I should start watching anime..
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>>377232316
Well Commander was thinking about boosting the production of his model for a reason.
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>>377232192
Might as well make a damn VN then
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>>377226131
>that video title
Ah, so that's why everyone likes his games, to feel like a special snowflake.
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>>377228261
I wouldn't really compare P5's OST to Automata's.

They both have different tones and style of music They're both good for their own reasons. also
>not posting the best track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KukSVxgsQkg
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>>377232410
You'd like them, but only the tripe ones.
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>>377231808
Yeah, even in the beginning of route C he was grieving but relatively stable, at least when he was around the Resistance camp.

Compare it to Popola who went apeshit the second her sister died.
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>>377232410
Watch Madoka Magica
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I wonder, what's Nier's budget? I'm sure it's not 80 million like W3 or Zelda's 60 milllion
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>>377232516
>See this song constantly posted
>Never really feeling it

Do you have to finish the game to really love this song? I think the vocals are pretty shit.

>>377233104
According to Square, isn't it a budget title?
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>>377233104
500 yen, an old shoestring, a half eaten apple, and Saito's tears.
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>>377232849
Haha, what? It looks like it's for small kids.
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>>377232454
But then people won't be able to act like Yoko Taro is the first dev to ever fuck with the player in a meta way. He isn't anyways.
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>>377233175
I guess it's comparable to Witcher five tracksuits and 10 liters of vodka budget
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>2B's happy, barely suppressed smile when she looks at 9S multiple times throughout the route A
>9S naming his system software after 2B on route C
>city ruins theme on route A is called Rays of Light but Shade on route C
it's in the little things
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>>377233359
>10 liters of vodka

We're talking about CD projekt red, it has to be at least a cubic meter of vodka
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>>377233346
yoko taro is a madman genius and his ideas have never been done before he is pushing the medium forward
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>>377233159
>According to Square, isn't it a budget title?
Depends on what Squeenix meant by that. Does Nier looks like a big budget game to you? I would give 10 to 15 million. It wasn't even marketed..
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>>377233727
the way they marketed the game lead to people marketing the game for them for free
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>>377233159
pretty much.
just like the ending song of automata.
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>>377233727
Id say that probably lower than 10, wasn't it only in development for 2 years?

Plus no marketing, and the ploy was probably to fire Yoko Taro after another failed game.
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>>377233346
>>377233590
Top ten images nierfaggots don't want you to see!
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>>377227024
>this
>goty

we're really going through a dry spell then. don't get me wrong, it was a solid game, but goty? I don't think so.
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>>377233942
the inferiority complex of this fanbase is outstanding
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMBScNW_CNc
Damn, I could listen this for hours! That melancholic sound...
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>>377225994
>this cannot continue
>not superior KONO MAMA JA DAME
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>>377233346
>VN
>game
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>>377233590
Bravely Default does this? Really?
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>>377234160
>death grips
the Nier of /mu/, solely for people with cancer taste or poseurs attempting to fit in
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>>377234141
back to the youtube comments section
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>>377234158
That one is better in Japanese, but Become as Gods is better in english

Good tradeoff

>>377234267
I'm convinced most people dropped Bravely Default during the 2nd half Myself included
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>>377228337
Maybe she figured out that he was a nihilistic maniac and she didn't want him to turn the bunker into another station 6/Labu like the last time he came across an awful truth about his existance? (He just had to activate his self-destruct function and the commander would end drifting across space with a very stern expression)

She was honest just to calm him down and then have 2B do the cleaning somewhere quiet and private and far-far away from the bunker.
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>>377233942
The ploy was to give him a piss budget and watch his game make profit, just like the other games they had him make.
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>>377233590
who said they were never done before?

also

these games worth playing?
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>>377234407
Drakengard 3 made a profit? How?
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did you guys play the dlc? is it worth buying?
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>>377234482
Did you look at what it is? at that price it's a scam.
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>>377234482
It's worth 5$ at best. Cosmetic items, short area styled trials, and a story that requires supplementary items to understand beforehand.
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>>377233942
Yeah, he announced, that he's working on new game in late 2014..
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>>377230536
dose 2B remember those killings?
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>>377234407
kek, previous nier was a trainwreck financially.
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back to tumblr cancer
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>>377234482
Too pricey but it's essentially a mockery of arenas in games with a small bits of lore focused mostly about machines, their community and one rogue machine with true free will.
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If you guys are a fan of metanarratives confronting morality you should definitely check out the Marathon series
Even if you don't play the game the entire story and universe is laid out online, and it's honestly the best video game writing I've ever witnessed
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>>377234740
Yeah.
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>>377234740
Yes, it's why she says emotions are prohibited. She doesn't want to get emotionally attached to 9S just to end up having to kill him again. Read Memory Thorn and Memory Cage.
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>Buy Nier Automata
>Enjoy it a lot
>Read all the extended lore and show plays
>Reboot the game for a second playthrough
>Quick after 20 mins of sheer boredom

I guess a game needs more than 2deep4u messages to actually have sticking power
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>>377233104

I heard reports that its budget was around 5 million dollars. Or in other words: barely anything in today's industry.
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>>377234906
If you actually felt there was any real depth to the narrative you're crushing stupid.
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>>377225994
Botw is goty by a long shot. Ive been considering pirating Nier, but I heard you play most of the game as 9S which instantly makes the game a 5/10 at best
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>>377234471
By making more sales wise than it took to make.
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>>377235031
I think he was being sarcastic on its depth with "2deep4u" calm down autismo.
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>>377227024
Great song but i like this one the most:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5YChAFjxks

Just makes me think about going berserk as A2 against 9S.
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>>377225994
lol fuck off, game runs like ass on pc
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WE MUST DIE

AND BECOME AS MEMES
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>>377229141
53 votes, must be definitive
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>>377236029
Have you ever downloaded FAR? Simply turning the ambient lighting or whatever setting from ultra (which is default) to low made the game run at a solid 60 fps all the way through for me and i only have a shitty 970.
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>9S gets constantly influenced by machines over the course of a game because he hacks into their minds repeatedly
>fuses with Eve and machine network at the end of A
>gets connected to the very centre of machine network at the end of C
Honestly i'm not surprised he bullshitted himself out from the dead in concert script.
He must be a fucking android Jesus by the ending E.
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>>377236451
>fuses with Eve and machine network at the end of A
Speaking of, what happened with machine 9S between A/B and C?
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>>377225994
>GOTY 2017
>Literally none of the endings work as an actual conclusive ending, instead you have to check out a fucking play

first nier is better, sorry.
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>>377237905
>game that forces you to experience a more cultured medium in order to comprehend it fully
As we said, GOTY 2017.
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>>377237628
According to the strategy guide, he transmitted his self-consciousness back to the Bunker, then they destroyed the inactive machine wreckage via satellite lasers.
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>>377225994
ending E is bullshit and genuinely brought the whole game down

in nier deleting your save data was a representation of nier deleting himself from reality to save kaine, it was forcing the player to make the big sacrifice if they wanted to bring back the only character that has a shot at a happy ending and it was one of the most clever ways to have a character and the player be on the same page put into a game

in automata you delete your save because of some bullshit meta credits shump segment and because you've already finished playing the game so you might as well pay if forward. ending E is completely detached from everything that happened in the game previously (lol the pods become aware at the last minute and can somehow completely rebuild all the characters making all their dramatic deaths pointless) and it ends on a wet fart where everyone is just sort of in a coma and then it ends
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>>377237905
I like the endings and actively despise supplementary materials like that. I don't know what kind of conclusion you were looking for, but it worked for me.
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>>377238492
> at the last minute
Come again?
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>>377238492
delete, the game's ending is a masterpiece i dont care how many times he reuses the gimmick
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>>377238492
>at the last minute
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>>377238551
> I don't know what kind of conclusion you were looking for
Literally anything. Every single ending feels like it's just a setup for more stuff, except then the game just ends

ending A/B don't explain a damn thing besides "2B and 9S really like eachother", ending C has A2 sacrifice herself for 9S for some vague reason that I thought was gonna get cleared up in ending E and ending D is the only one that even sort of has a conclusive ending and instead it's just "everyone dies except for 9S and the boyband sephiroths who uploaded their brain into this mcguffin introduced in the last hour of the game and then they go into space"

compare that that with the first nier where endings a b AND c/d all feel like actual endings where you could leave the game there and have a mostly satisfying story that has an actual beginning/middle/end. automata doesn't do that and instead is just a bunch of stuff that happens all tied together by vauge themes

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>>377238854
this happens roughly an hour before ending E happens at best and it still doesn't address the part where pods can just magically remake the characters for some reason now via a credits shooting segment that has nothing to do with anything

>>377238740
except he didn't use the gimmick properly. there's now way to know that people's save data is being sacrificed so you don't lose unless someone tells you
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>>377239091
>this happens roughly an hour before ending E happens
The pods have been conscious since before ending A. Why would 2B's pod otherwise ask her to chitchat with him?
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>>377239091
>magically remake the characters
they didn't, retard
9S is still in the same body he had at the top of a Tower, he even need a hand replacement
A2 is most likely the same, androids can grow hair according to Taro
and we never find 2B's body on route C which mean Pods could hide it, even if they didn't, there's a shitload of 2E bodies in tower wreckage
i won't even argue about the rest of your moronic post because you didn't even try to actually understand the theme of Automata
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>>377239496
>because you didn't even try to actually understand the theme of Automata
then whats the theme
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>>377238453
Wouldn't he still have been infected with the virus? Why did that not make it to the machine body with the rest of him?
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I liked the english voice acting a lot better than the japanese ones.
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>>377239842
>Wouldn't he still have been infected with the virus
He made a backup of himself into surrounding machines before he finished hacking Eve. That info was not corrupted and fused back. And after his original body died, his self-consciousness awakened inside the machine network instead.
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>>377225994
>fanservice game
>GOTY

Pick one dumbfuck.
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>>377240275
what is a fanservice game
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>>377240379
A game that can only rely on fanservice to sell.
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>>377240379
Pandering with skimpy outfits and neglecting everything else. It would be okay if it was sold for like 15 dollars and marketed as a porn game, but this is just retarded.
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>>377227024
Nier OST thread?
https://youtu.be/vOKYBa3lhks
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>>377234267
did you not play the game? The game literally starts with Airy's sister talking to you the player.
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>>377240624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAgW21bSV9s
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>>377240545
Have you played this game? 2B isn't even the main character.
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>>377240219
Ah, I misunderstood the timing. Thanks.
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>>377226131
Yeah, i can fucking tell
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is ending e hyped by the gimmick or it is not even the best part of the game?
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>>377241206
Hyped by the gimmick
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>>377239496
>>377239667
this fanbase is full of posturing retards
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>>377240545
do you really think the skimpy outfits are all there is in this game?
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I liked Nioh more.
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>>377241689
Do you really think he'a anything but a shitposter?
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>>377241794
I disagree but respect your choice.
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>Bethesda tier sidequests
>shallow combat
>empty as fuck world
>GOTY
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>>377233104
Probably around 5 to 10 million
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>Pod 042 was created on a basis of Zinnia's personality
Wonder who was a base for 153's persona.
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>>377242043
>Bethesda tier sidequests
Not even close

>shallow combat
True

>empty as fuck world
Not true
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>>377241794
I liked Persona 5, Nioh, and Botw more than Automata. All three games had tons of more value to them. Automata is still a good game but it has way too many flaws and a fuck ton of questions not answered or only answered in novels and other garbage not found inside the fucking game.
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Who or what is Zinnia? Did I miss it in the game somewhere?
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>>377242387
Side materials, like in every Taro's game.
"Father" of project yorha, prototype models and an unfortunate victim of #9's edgelord killing spree.
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Adam japanese VA also voiced hisoka.. it all makes sense
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I think N:A is a very good game and has a lot of cool story and characters idea.

But there are a few things that are just annoying:
- The world is actually much smaller than it seems at first. Game length itself is obviously satisfying, though.
- The hacking is either way too easy or you're unlucky and get one of the ca. 3 nearly impossible minigames.
- A few more things like >>377230536 shouldn't have been "hidden away" in descriptions.
- FUCKING STUMBLING
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>>377230394
>don't play as 2b most of the game
I keep reading this and I keep being confused.
It took me around 40h to finish to ending E, played with 2B around 20h, 9S for ~13h and then 7h with A2.
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>>377242989
>an unholy union of Mikasa and Kaneki
No wonder they are like a pair of yandere when something threatens another half.
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>>377242989
>Pod 042 has already played the role of best dad
can't make this shit up
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>>377243072
My questions are more like
Where did the aliens come from?
Why did they choose earth?
How could the machines eradicate species as advanced as the aliens?
Who built the moon base with the server?
Who built the backdoor?
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>>377243707
>Why did they choose earth?
The same reason why we'd chose other earth-like planets.
They're very habitable and should be as close as possible.

Some of the other questions can be answered if you look into the ingame texts or check the wiki.
May also want to look into >>>/vg/ndg since there's a link to a text collection there.
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>>377243707
>How could the machines eradicate species as advanced as the aliens?
machines were their last resort weapon against Emil to begin with
>Who built the moon base with the server?
Zinnia.
>Who built the backdoor?
9S, or, to be exact, his prototype
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>>377242989
Speaking of, was I really supposed to believe Pascal had a male voice?
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>>377243965
>The same reason why we'd chose other earth-like planets.
>They're very habitable and should be as close as possible.
How can you establish that when we don't know anything about the aliens?
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>>377243707
>irrelevant
>irrelevant
>machines were weapons originally. Imagine if the worlds guns and missles became sentient and tried to kill you. Also the aliens are described like plant life, meaning they weren't very intelligent
>androids
>androids

Most of your questions are answered in game.
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>>377244198
Because it's the most reasonable, well, reason.
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>>377244253
Most of my questions can be answered in game yet half you listed as irrelevant because there are no answers. Also It's not irrelevant to me because I want to know the background to the game, it seemed very interesting.
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>>377228474
Undertale is the ripoff of the original Nier.
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>>377244464
Not him, but there are things that can not be answered and a few things are up for interpretation.

It's not as extreme as with the Souls games, though.
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>>377244253
>androids
Who of the androids? There were more than one? >>377244131 this guy says it's a dude called Zinna?
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>>377225994
>story as deep as a puddle written by chrischan
>gameplay worse than any other action game
>visually looks worse than dmc4/bayo 1
>boring music with generic wailing
im sick of the shilling for such generic nonsesne
it's a scam
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>>377227751

Good taste my dude
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>>377242327
>and botw
lol
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>>377244680
Zinnia is their creator, he was a director of orbital base designing new weapons.
But he was unfortunate enough to create prototype number 9 who fucking ended him, murdered entire bunker, corrupted his plan, sent it all to moon server where it was kickstarted automatically via Pods, then crashed the fucking satellite into atmosphere to cover everything he did, killing himself and 2B's prototype in the process too.

This all comes from concert side materials.
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is there anything to do in the game after Ending E or is that just the end?
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>>377245149
That's the "best" end. You can go for achievements, including the secret boss.
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>>377244684
>boring music with generic wailing

And you were doing so well. Why can't we get nice rational people to talk to instead of these "BEST GAME EVUR/WORST GAME EVUR" underage faggots?
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>>377245065
Imagine if they removed route B and actually made a route with the side material
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I hope we get an epilogue DLC where we see all the female characters in skimpy outfits.
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>>377229330

Well Undertale sold better and got far better reception both critically and just generally and it managed to do that without anything more than a fraction of the budget or the incest overtones (unless you count Goatmom) so i guess Undertale is objectivly a superior version of Nier 1. Awesome.

Or yknow. Two different games. Whatever.
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>>377246204
Route B is one of the best things about the game thanks to the quality of side quests alone, but i would love to see a N9 DLC.
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>>377246352
Route B main purpose is garbage and could be removed from the game while keeping the side quests in another route and it would've made no difference.

Half the quests are just shitty go to A and B garbage anyway, so no, they aren't quality.
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>>377247059
>Route B main purpose is garbage
No, it's not. It's there to establish the true main character who sees and experiences way more than 2B and also hint at his mental instability and secretiveness. All his unique side quests revolve around getting into the minds of machines as well, and he hides their content from 2B so stuffing it into her playthrough would be retarded.

And those side quests are some of the most hilarious things in the game in any case like NEET machine or game debugging.
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