Hi I'm the most bullshit enemy in any souls game

>>377222575
how the fuck are the giant crabs bullshit?

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that's not these guys

>>377222575
Really? They have massive openings for counter attack. Souls games do have bullshit enemies, giant crabs are not one of them.

>>377222575
>Hi im a fucking noob and i dont know how to play this game

>>377222575
>>377222974
>no dogs

fuck off faggots.

>>377222575

The big hammer guys before Ancient Dragon that would track and wail on you non-stop

Catchas are stupid, just got asked to highlight all shoes in a Nike trainer store

I'd say the worst are those fuckers in the dragon shrine in DaS2. Especially the club fuckers who never stop swinging.

The one bullshit thing about the crabs are that they can dig underground and come back up with full health. I haven't seen it happen many times, but it can happen.

i literally get in their face and just dodge their little swing, they dont even have much health and they let you get a fucking parry thing on them

wtf OP stop being a faggot

>>377223239
>parry
stop playing like a casual

>>377222974
why do these guys (the versions with the flamberge) do so much damage later on? their arms should snap off when they swing the bloody things

How much of a scrub am I for getting tired of DaS before beating the Gargoyles? Take into consideration that I enjoyed and beat DeS, and was staunchly 'no summon' in both.

>>377223158
Dogs are a given when talking about bullshit enemies. everyone fucking hates them to the point where we don't even have to mention them

Just get in their face, tank their quite frankly pitiful attacks, and hit them with a giant sword or tree branch until they fall like an autistic kid who dropped his icecream, then perform a critical attack to kill what's left of its health.

Fuck, I find the tiny crabs more annoying. I can't tell you how many times I was doing watchdog pvp only to get snipped by one mid-combo because I didnt have the forethought to clean out the half-docile fodder crabs.

They have low posie. Just swing a lot and then do the finisher
t. knower

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>>377222575
I don't think I've ever killed one but I've also never tried more than the first time when it immediately dug itself underground and got back up to 100% health.

The most bullshit enemy in the series is actually the giant rat things in Farron Keep with the cursed homing tree trunks

He cant beat
> A giant enemy crab.
Kys

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>>377223158

I'll just leave this here.

>>377222575
You want to be in front of the face, not the side of the crab. It can be tough, because they turn to run at you and start this quick 3-hit claw slam combo. It's hard to punish, and if you stay with the side of the crab in front of you it'll keep spamming it.
You want to get in front of the crab's fave as soon as possible. It has a bunch of attacks it can use, but it's pretty easy once you know them. Just roll through and punish. The bubble beam is especially easy to punish.

Attack its weak point for massive damage.

>>377222575
>Hit 3 times
>reposte

WOW SO HARD

>>377223605
Literally
LITERALLY
Harder than any given single boss.

>Never staggers
>Always staggers you
>Has above average health, rarely dies in one hit
>Always travels in packs of 2 with an optional fire witch escort
>Can attack through walls
>Runs faster than you can, escape is literally impossible unless you exploit it's inability to turn around corners correctly
>Fire breath goes through walls

Fuck those things.

>>377223553
fuck those guys, i cant tell you how many times iv'e been chased down buy those faggots while poisoned and stuck slow-walking in the swamp. the only thing worse in that area are the ghru that jump around like retards and grab you from out of nowhere

>>377223797
>Never staggers
yeah, but if you shoot it, it immediately falls over

>>377222575
>Can riposte him without even having to stagger him when he raises both arms.
>Can literally just walk around him and hit a few times until he dies

S-SO H-HARD

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>>377223460
If it took you more than 30 minutes to reach gargoyles you are a mega scrub and need to get good. If dark souls can't even hold your attention for that long in the first half (good part) of the game then I don't know what to tell you

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>>377223906
forgot image

>>377223605
whats is this guy again? i haven't played DS3 in a while so i forgot

the worst thing about ds3 dogs is the fucking teleport. whenever you manage to outrun them they will simply port infront or on top of you, its such a lazy fucking design.

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>>377222575
It gets stuck on trees. You need to go beyond Souls if you want bullshit.

>>377223906
Yeah, falls over 20 feet away, so you can't really follow it up. Unless you wanna waste 20 bullets killing one (1) of the two dogs from far away.

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>>377223797
shit nevermind, forgot that its from bloodborne

>>377223605
that´s from BB right? So I am kinda not sad anymore to not be able to play that game

>>377223321
>he doesn't expose a crab's weak point and strike for massive damage
why even play

>>377223956
>If it took you more than 30 minutes to reach gargoyles
Not him, but that's a bit of a stretch. You including the entire tutorial area? And that's not even counting the exploration at your own pace. And the borderline unavoidable trek back you'll have to do when that dragon torches your ass for the first time.

>>377222575
>literally a giant enemy crab

when did from started pandering to redditors?

>>377223215
>Especially the club fuckers who never stop swinging.
they keep swinging only if you keep blocking.

if you roll or avoid the swings, they don't infiniswing anymore

>>377223723
Can't believe no one else posted this

>>377223946
i didn't even know that you could parry them, and i never would have even tried since that seems like it would never work

>>377222575
Snibeti snabeti don't touch my babities.

>>377222575
>yfw you can parry the crabs

>>377222575
>not basilisks
Seriously, an enemy that has a guaranteed one hit kill attack, that continues to affect you after death, with an effect that cuts your health in half which can only be removed with an expensive healing item. Seriously, fuck those things

>>377223956
I just got tired of trying to kill those fire breathing cocksuckers, and having to get past that auto parrying faggot every time they killed me.

>>377224380
you can't parry them, only stagger/riposte

>Not posting those goat fuckers who jump on your head

>>377222974
>let's put a bunch of these fuckers around corners so you can't pick them off or aggro them from range

>>377224195
The tutorial area takes 5 mins tops. Anyway yeah I guess if you explore it'll take longer but if you've seen the game played and you can't get there in 30ish minutes and get bored from dying too much of whatever then you need to git gud

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>>377224243
Crabs are creatures that came from hell, like dolphins and baboons. Of course they'll be used as enemies in vidya.

>>377224409
>Dying to basilisks
>Ever

It takes forever for the curse to kick in and they die in one hit.

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CRAB BATTLE

>>377224409
Roll out of it you fucking tard.

>>377224041
Fun enemy honestly.
It's like a twist on the "stay outta their view" enemy cause their view is 360

>>377222575
can't beat a mudcrab you fucking scrub?

>>377224076
shoot them into a wall? off a ledge?

>>377224409
LOL curse buildup is so slow and every attack they do is telegraphed

The only excuse for dying to basilisks is if you literally have no idea what they do

>>377224675
His attacks keep missing.

>>377224568
Roll out of its way, or you can roll out of curse? Because holy fuck if I missed that I'm going to be pissed.

>>377224460
>>377223905
i already got you senpai

>>377224732
Both.

>>377224463

>let's use good level design so our players can't just cheese the fuck out of our game and actually have to get good.

Faggot.

>>377224732
The curse only builds up when you're inside the gas cloud.

Get out of the cloud and the curse bar goes down.

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Crabs are smalltime, DaS3babby
Here's the definitive list of bullshit (excluding DaS2 because I've never played it but I'm sure it has lots of stupid shit too)
>Mindflayers
>Skeletons (DeS)
>Swamp Giants
>Basilisks (DaS1)
>Dart Blowers
>Silver Knights
>Bonewheel Skeletons (DaS1)
>Winter Lanterns
>Research Hall Patients
>Shark Giants
>Chalice Madmen
>Undead Giants
>Bell-Ringing Women
>Irythill Knights
>Crow Knights
>Angels

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>>377224409
>>377224732
You can't be serious.

>>377224789
Getting instaganked the second you round a corner is not good level design.

>>377224676
Yeah, let me just shoot him into a wall and finish the job while another one and a fire witch are fucking my ass in half.

There are no easy ways to go about killing those faggots, the best solution is, since they usually spawn in the main area, to just wait until they pat away, and then slink along the walls, hoping they dont put you on their list.

>>377224765
Well fuck. The first run I did was heavily armored so I was really slow when I fought them

I hate torch hollows.

>>377224881
The only bullshit placement they had was on the church roof where two of em drop on you and you're trapped

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*takes a million attacks and never staggers*
*dashes towards you and tentacle rapes you*

pshh nothin personnel, 'unter

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>the first time you got parried by a balder knight

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>>377224851
>Bonewheel Skeletons (DaS1)
Fuck these things and their fire-breathing Nioh variation.

>>377224881

Maybe you should have mentioned that first instead of
>wah, why can't I cheese everything with a bow! Fighting multiple enemies is hard!

>>377225176
>not using fire paper
although i do agree that these guys are just straight up annoying and creepy. especially in the upper cathedral ward

>>377225176
If you hit it with fire then it staggers

>>377225176
Stab them.

>>377224851

What's wrong with Silver Knights? They're completely fair.

>>377224601
>stay outta their view"

This would have been fine if you stopped gaining frenzy once out of their LOS. The fact that it keeps building once you've run is what is bullshit

>>377223605
Where can you find them? Never encountered one.

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>>377225460

>>377225338
Because one naturally flows from the other, you fucking idiot, and there's a world of difference between fighting two enemies at the same time and getting rushed by enemies you had no way to know were there.

Who also attack you instantly and have hitboxes low to the ground so they're fucking annoying to hit.

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>>377222575
>mfw I parried a crab

trust me, it can be done

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>>377224431
that "parrying faggot" i assume is the balder knight. You can see when he's going to parry by him holding his sword out at you in a weird way. You can also just fight him on the stairs and he'll miss most of his attacks. Long weapons like the scythe or zweihander make him easy to kill too. Also, for gargoyles, just use a lightning resin. You will 5-6 hit the first one with a two-handed lightning +5 anything, and the second one is at half health so he takes like 3 hits. Makes the fight very easy

>>377225569
You're the devil

>>377225464
by the time i encountered those things i had around 18 sedatives, so it wasn't too bad. plus the hunter gear you pick up on the ground by the DLC entrance has good frenzy resist. although if they grab you then you are straight up fucked

>>377225523

Nigga, all you said was that you are a huge pussy who wanted to kill or aggro things everything at a time from range, and now you're back-pedaling with "what I really meant was I don't like ganks" when any functioning human being would have just said so in the first place.

>>377225176
They're sarcastically weak to blunt and stab, but not slash.

Use any specialty weapon like the kirkhammer, and proceed to 2 shot them, even in boss form.

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What's going on in this thread?

>>377222575
Gotta admit these things do bother me, but literally the only reason they are challenging is because of their crazy aggro range and the fact that you usually fight them while being slowed down in a swarmp.

>>377225831
Sarcastically weak..?

>>377224523
Not if you get hit by their charge up cloud that takes a few seconds. That shit will fill up the bar fast.
The bullshit in that is that the cloud instakills you regardless of whether you're in front of the lizard or just grazing it.

>>377225917
Fuck these things. The fact that they expect you to fight more than one at the same time is stupid.

>>377225917
These are tough but mostly optional.

The smaller ones who facefuck you to death are bullshit, though.

>>377225521
i never had a problem with the anor londo archers, you just sprint up the ramp and roll when they shoot. how the hell does anyone have a hard time with them?

>>377225746
Are you stupid? Not being able to choose when to engage them because ayy lmao let's put them behind walls and on top of buildings where you can't see them is exactly why they're bad.

>>377225948
Like, weak to a certain degree that it almost feels like a joke.

Sword Kirkhammer: 300
Hammer Kirkhammer: 1300

Neither charged.

>>377226042
There are a few items that you can only get if you kill them. Still optional, but it's a dick move to put an enemy this strong in a place where your mobility is severely hampered, plus you have to fight more than one at the same time.

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>>377225297

>>377226042
>it just keeps jumping on you over and over again

Fuck them.

>>377222575
>first time in the forest
>start fucking with the little crabs
>"gay ass crabs wonder what they drop"
>TUCKTUCKTUCKTUCKTUCK
>the fuck?
>WHOOM WHOOM
>You Died

every enemy with a grab attack is instant vomit tier in souls

>>377226142
its called using the right stick and looking around corners. after they ambush you for the first time you should know to look around corners and on the ceiling

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>Those fucking turtle clerics that heal as soon as you hit them once

>>377226346
It's almost like they're hidden in such a way that that's not effective and you'll only find the ones that are stuck to walls that way.

>>377226398
just kick them over when they go to heal you casual

>>377226428
i don't know about you, but i managed to locate them just fine

>>377226217
They're not supposed to be killed during the first encounter.

>Demons Souls
>challenging, fair for the most part
>Dark Souls
>challenging, fair, a little bullshit making it's way in
>Dark Souls II
>mild challenge, mind-numbingly boring, a lot of bullshit, little fairness
>Dark Souls III
>incredibly easy, very tedious and dull, boring. Nothing but bullshit, but the player can bullshit the enemies too so its fair in an unsatisfying way
>Bloodborne
>challenging, fair for the most part

>>377226398
Thrusting attacks will knock them over

>>377226657
>i le hate DaS3 meme
just stop

>>377225176
they're really weak to thrust

>>377226657
>Burger King
>Black World Tendency
>Fair

>>377226398
turtle clerics? what enemies are you talking about?

>>377226398
Poke em to death.

Demon's Souls: Fresh piping hot pepperoni pizza
Dark Souls: Mildly warm sausage pizza
Dark Souls II: Cold pizza with every topping known man on it.
Bloodborne: Barbecue Chicken Pizza
Dark Souls III: A photograph with a mildly warm sausage pizza.

>>377225614
Figured out the sword cue, but I guess my luring him down to the more open area was counter intuitive.
Thanks for the tips, maybe someday I'll rebuy the game and take another crack at it.

>>377226657
>souls games
>challenging

lol

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>>377226837

>>377226398
Then their buddies back them up and put the damage circle on you

>>377226850
>food analogy

do not

>>377226859
just so you know, the skeletons can parry you as well, so watch out.

>>377226657
lmao I cant remember any bullshit in DS3 to be honest. Tell me of those bullshit enemies please

>>377226947
DS3 has fast healing.... but you've got ridiculously slow reaction time

>>377226850
beautiful, except I hate barbecue chicken pizza

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>>377222575
At least you can dodge the attacks of the crab.

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>>377222575
Heh

>>377226952
ah ok i gotcha

>>377227005
>cant handle food analogy

literally casual filter in discussions

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What are you doing sprinting to the castle doors like that? Come on back outside anon, I just wanna talk

>>377227086
These would be fine if they didn't take years to kill.

>>377227086
Roll backwards, punch 3 times, roll backwards

wew

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>>377227087
meant this

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>>377227060
everyone has slow reaction times when they're reacting to H O D R I C K

>>377226850
DeS: George H.W Bush
DaS: Bill Clinton
DaS2: George W Bush Jr
BB: Barrack Obama
DaS3: Donald J Trump

>>377226837
They're in the DLC

>>377226398
literally kick them

>>377227172
They're absurdly weak to bleed.

>>377227087
What set is that? Just got to NG+ so I'm looking for some new threads.

DaS3 is probably the weakest souls title, but for a lot of die-hard DaS1 enthusiasts it's exactly the game they wanted after DaS2 being so radically different. So I can understand why people over-value it as much as they do.

>>377222575
how fucking bad are you? holy shit you underages who get mad at games because you cant win and immediately go make a post about it on /v/ are the most cancerous faggots ever
fuck off to reddit or twitch

Dark Souls: Star Wars (the good one)
Dark Souls 2: Star Wars (one of the bad ones)
Dark Souls 3: Kentucky Fried KFC

>>377227015
Damned skellingtons tryna spook a nigga to death.

>>377225486
chalice dungeons

>>377227315
that explains it then, i haven't gotten to far in the DLC, i only got past the swamp with the two angels.

>>377224851
I don't remember Mindflayers being that bad, 'cause I'm pretty sure you can wiggle out of their grab-attack. Skeletons in DeS were easy if you had the crushing type weapon, or even better, the crushing battle-axe. You wouldn't know about it unless you played the game before, so I can see why they're BS. As for Silver Knights, only if they're swinging through 15 meter thick walls.
>>377226805
Who's the Burger King? I don't get that reference. Honestly, if World Tendency was explained better, or rather just explained at all, It wouldn't have been so bad. Now we're stuck in Pure White, so to experience BW, gotta go offline. Sucks, but it ain't that big of a deal.

>>377227425
No it isn't. Dark Souls 2 is because it's just shit. Stop trying to find ways to excuse how shit Dark Souls 2 was

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>>377227224

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>ITT

>>377226231
>it jumps
>dodge
>grab was delayed, gets you during recovery
>start to recover from the grab
>its queuing another jump grab
>finally stand up
>grabbed before you can move
Fuck this gay earth

>>377227520
The Old King.

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>>377222575
Alright lads?

>>377227437

shut up nerd

>>377227593
Literally just the Old Knights reskinned...

>>377227461
Dark Souls: Original Trilogy
Dark Souls 2: Prequel Trilogy
Dark Souls 3: Original Trilogy re-release with post production editing by George Lucas

>>377227380
hinterlands chalice

http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Tomb+Prospector+Set

>>377227593
delet this

>>377227593
UNLIMITED POWER

>>377227593
adaptability was the worst mistake DS2 made

>>377227536
>>377227425

>your game is shit
>n-no your game is shit

It's time to grow up and realize that both your games are shit, and From Software can't into sequels.

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>>377227659
Dope.

>>377227192
lol fuck those enemies

>>377227593
Beyblading fucks.

>>377225709
>>377225464
>>377224601
>>377224041
dude just visceral cheese lmao

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I pity those without the kirkhammer

>>377227779
Gotta admit I really don't like line-of-sight enemies in these games.

>>377225521
You can esily get that far not knowing about i-frames.
Then it just sucks. In my first playthrough, this was the first time I rolled through damage.

>>377224463
What the fuck are you talking about? If you pay attention to their placement, you can pick them off with a longbow 9 times out of 10.

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>>377227890
>*ding ding*

>>377227763
You don't like DaS3, sure. Whatever you think of it, it still doesn't change the fact that DaS2 still comes nowhere close to it in terms of quality, and people need to stop acting like DaS2 had anything good going for it whatsoever

>>377227593
this is the real answer. unlimited stamina on a giant fucking hammer attack that combos to around 5

>>377227890
>see spiders coming from a room
>kill a few spiders, bum rush the chime maiden
>kill her quick, heal up
>room looks safe
>start to pick up loot
>get gangraped by 3 spiders
>mfw there were 2 chime maidens in the room
>mfw I have no face

>>377227856
>/v/ says enemy is hard in bloodborne
>fight them
>you can either stagger them to death, ai loop them, or break their limbs into viscerals

Listening to /v/ before I bought TOH was a mistake. Everyone keep saying how hard ludwig was, and how hard he was going to push in your shit, and I went in there broke his leg causing a stagger, broke his other leg causing a stagger, he went to phase two, and i just mashed r1 until I got a free visceral, and then again because for some reason when he hits 10% hp you just get a free visceral for whatever reason.

At least Midir only gives you a visceral if you hit his head for 75% of his health, but ludwig just gives you one for free

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dude 1000 yard range lmao

>>377228070
> and people need to stop acting like DaS2 had anything good going for it whatsoever
Could say the same for DS3 desu

DS2 does somethings better than DS3
DS3 does somethings better than DS2

Difference between them is DS3 is just a shallow DS1 copy while DS2 tried to be it's own thing.

>>377228238
fighting those guys in that courtyard after the last bonfire was fucking gay

>>377228183
>there are like 7 spiders attacking through a closed door
>you have to go through it

>>377227980
They were kinda bullshit the way they forced you to play that one room extremely slowly.

>>377228070
>i reaaaally really really really want to fit in!

>>377223956
Take your meds. He's clearly a causal for taking time to explore the world rather than rush to the Gargoyles like someone who's played a bunch of times.

You're a faggot.

>>377227593
Best armor ever, best weapon ever
prove me worng niggers

>>377228238
>"No away he'll be able to hit me from that distanc-"
>[chains rattling]
>[screeching]
>u ded

Every time.

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>>377228183
>be at a lamp in a chalice dungeon with a decent amount of blood echos
>go to the bathroom
>spiders tracked me down and murdered me at the lamp like three times

>>377228238
Nothing quite got my jimmies going like having the chain axe go through a fucking wall to track me.

>>377223175
>not using legacy captchas
ISHYGDDT

>>377228392
no, the majority of people hate DaS2 because DaS2 is shit, and this is you yet again grasping for any straws possible to excuse DaS2 being shit

>>377228289
What does Dark Souls 2 do better than 3? Lets hear it

I like how DaS1 got almost universal praise for it's open world design and yet no other game in the franchise has been on par with it, the closest has been Dark Souls 2.

I'm not sure what happened during the course of BB Development, but why did From Software make BB and DS3 so fucking linear? It's incredibly boring to replay those games. You can tell the Dancer engagement was added at the last moment to help offset their terrible design, but then they go two steps backwards and gate you from the archives.

>>377228528
getting that axe as a drop would be pretty dope though, imagine the hate mail you would get in PVP

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You know the one.

>no mention of the fire lizards from 2
It's better we forget them.

>>377228659
Naaah those were honestly pretty fucking easy

>>377228659
It's the ice cream man!

>>377228659
those guys were just damn creepy, i fucking loved the atmosphere in the tower of latria

>>377228554
>>377223175
>Not supporting the site with a 4chan pass

>>377226947
what is this showing except the player with the slowest reaction times in existence

>>377228616
Sorcery and miracles.

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>>377227550
I love his art

>>377228698
It's better to forget that game entirely

It's not as effective to point out a shitty enemy in a game where all the enemies are shitty

>>377228616
>What does Dark Souls 2 do better than 3? Lets hear it
non-linearity, weapon variety, build variety, hex viability, ng+ differences, pvp, pvp balance, CoC covenant, no death rewards, no bonfire rewards, powerstancing, unique items that add stats/abilities, it's own lore/story and not just a retelling of DS1

>>377228616
it's a better dark souls game

compare pontiff suhlyvahn to fume knight, one clearly belongs in a souls game, the other feels more bloodborney

also poise

>>377228341
>Shoot arrow
>Wait for aggro to die
>Repeat
That's my strategy and I'm sticking to it.

>>377228808
i loved that shit in 2, but getting oneshot by a climax or crystal soul spear is fucking annoying

>>377228616
Fashion souls

Emotes

>>377228742
>>377228659
I hated Demon's Souls until these guys. >>377228739 is right but fucking hell my jimmies.

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>>377227550

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>>377228742
Ding ding, motherfucker.

>>377228763
>leaving a money trail linking to the #1 child pornography chinese image board on the internet

>>377223175
The diffirence is that their is only one in the entire game.
These other fuckers are practically the DS3 version of goombas and koopas.

>>377228937
>tfw i beat the dancer early by strafing around her with the gay crossbow you get early on

took me around 20 minutes to kill her but i don't regret it at all

>>377228739
Fuck that black phantom on the way to the Maneaters, though.

>>377228659
>NG+
>faith build
no magic 4 u asshole

>>377228763
I dont wwanna support my nasty habits

>>377228616
>What does Dark Souls 2 do better than 3? Lets hear it
-Fashion
-PvE variety
-PvP variety
-Build variety
-Weapon variety
-Better fashion
-Non-linear, very open world (You can choose out 7 bosses to be your first boss, now that's fucking open)
-Encourages different ways of playing
-Better covenant selection
-NG+ Additions
-Bonfire Ascetics
-Challenge rewards
-Emerald Herald
-Twinblades

DaS2's only faults are some areas of the world look really fucking shitty, wacky disconnects like earthen valley to iron peak and soul memory. And the latter doesn't even effect you if you play offline.

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>>377222575
No, I'm the most bullshit enemy in any souls game

>mfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmB2HH4_qNM

>>377228616
>What does Dark Souls 2 do better than 3? Lets hear it

Torches aren't just a weapon you quickly swap to remove leeches with no relevance to the rest of the game.
Dual wielding offers more options.
Off-handed weapons have full left handed movesets.
More varied weapons.
Better covenants.
Better armor.
World is constructed in such a way that you generally have more choice for what to do next as opposed to having to get a key from a dead end 3 times to progress down the only other path you have available to you like in DaS3.
Durability is low enough to matter.
Magic has utility and isn't only useful when you get 60 casting stat.
Interesting ways to manipulate the environment like breaking down doors, lighting torches or blowing up walls.
Not having the dynamic component of every boss fight be "second phase when you reach this health %".
Health regeneration has a cost (casting slot, souls for life gems) or can be lost (1 ring available that regens health but it has low durability) in DaS2.
Spamming rolls won't avoid every attack.

>>377228289
And yet out of the two of them Dark Souls 3 is the better game.
Makes you think, huh.

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GRRRRRRRRRR *BITES YOU*

>>377222575
>Kunieru gekka tamino dokkoku
>Kyomono nobi ni “Kami” wa naru

>>377229681
>>377229512
>>377228949
>>377228859
>>377228840
>memes

Nice, just as I thought. I'm not even going to bother to give you all any more (You)s. Fucking DS2 apologists.

>>377229880
Now those were absolute dogshit

Still mad 5 years later or however long it has been

>>377229772
Thank you reddit

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>>377229939
Look at this fucking bozo.

>>377229939
dude don't be like that memes are a legit form of argument

>>377227593
THIS FUCKING GUY

HEY GANG, SHOULD WE PUT SOME EFFORT INTO OUR ENEMY DESIGN?

FUCK IT
GIVE EM UNLIMITED STAMINA AND INFNITE COMBOS

GAME DESIGN IS HARD WORK YO

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>>377223175

>>377229681
>Not having the dynamic component of every boss fight be "second phase when you reach this health %".

Nice bait. I refuse to believe people are so retarded that they think asylum demon style bosses is the pinnacle of boss design.

>Spamming rolls won't avoid every attack.
That's only the case if you don't invest in ADP, if you get atleast 26, you'll get comfortable and safe rolling. Any lower, and the game just feels like it has 'fucked up' hit boxes.

DS2 fan boys are literally the most mentally ill and disturbed fans of all souls games.

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>Dark Souls 2
>Tries to do its own thing
>Good fashion

>>377230075
git gud

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>>377227224
Fuck you, Hodrick. Fuck you.

>>377230128
I agree with the Asylum Demon comment. All the Souls games with the Asylum Demon in are the worst ones.

>>377230128
>That's only the case if you don't invest in ADP, if you get atleast 26, you'll get comfortable and safe rolling. Any lower, and the game just feels like it has 'fucked up' hit boxes.
You're retarded.
Everything in the game except Chariot's charge can be dodged at base ADP. Dark Souls II is not the only game in the series with fucked up hitboxes.

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>>377230147
monk wrap is in demon's souls too

>>377230170
I got good
I got really fucking good.

Those guys are still bad enemies
t. Someone who thinks DS2 is a better Souls game than 3

>>377229880
*Pancakes you five times over in the span of desperately trying to use a single blood vial*
*Slip n Slides over to you when you try to run away*
*Calls for backup*

>>377230263
So Demon Souls, Dark Souls and Dark Souls III are the worst games?

>>377228840
>non-linearity
sure, you can have that one, but it hardly matters when the levels are all shit anyway

>weapon variety
fuck off with this. The weapon variety is an illusion, just like every other game. 75% of weapons are throw away trash because there's always that one weapon that's just best for each type of build. At least Bloodborne doesn't try to lie to the player about how many weapons the game has

>build variety
Sure, but the slightly better PvP doesn't make up for the rest of the game being trash. I don't remember there being much else in that game other than Santiers Spear + Avelyn in PvP

>powerstancing
Powerstancing is the one thing in DaS2 that I legitimately love, but it was poorly implemented and was never well explained to the player

>unique items that add stats/abilites
sure, but I don't see 4 different shitty shields that add a bit of stamina regen as all that impressive. The movesets on weapons in Dark Souls 3 blow Dark Souls 2 weapons out of the water

>it's own lore/story and not just a retelling of DS1

DaS3 just adds on to DaS lore in some very cool ways, while the lore of DaS2 is unimpressive
If Dark Souls 2 didn't have decent PvP, it would have nothing

>>377230216
>having 2 hp at that part in the game

but why

>>377230128
his point about rolling is more about how you can spam rolls in das3 whereas spamming rolls in das2 costs way too much stamina (as it should) to be a viable way of consistently avoiding damage

the only thing adp gets you is more leniency with your diodge timings, the stamina consumption rule is true at 99 adp or 10 adp

>>377222575
Komm ran, Dave.

>not those rat alligator things on the bridge to irithyll

fuck i hate those cunts they fuck me up more than anything

>>377230393
W8 is Asylum Demon in Demon's Souls? I might take my post back and just say that Dark souls 1 and 3 are dogshit.

>>377230402
>these features are irrelevant because i said so
Alright, you sure convinced me DS3 is the greatest game on the planet my friend.

>>377230404
Could be sl1 run?

>>377222974
>One runs after you with their blade risen above its head
>Conveniently frame perfects the hit once your dodge i-frames stop

>>377230537
the vanguards you fight in DeS are basically asylum demon version 1

>>377230537
Vanguard

>>377230402
>The movesets on weapons in Dark Souls 3 blow Dark Souls 2 weapons out of the water

95% of the time you're only using the r1 attacks (at least in pve) in das3 because the game's combat is a shitty poiseless dps race

>>377230669
>>377230698
I can't remember them but it has been a long time.

>>377223797
>Runs faster than you
Also attacks while moving faster than you
Ladders are your only hope

>>377228238
>Smashes you from a mile away through a wall

>>377230616
a lot of the things you brought up are nowhere near as significant as actual good level design and bosses, playing well, and good musical scores

also

BB > DaS1 >>>>>> DaS3 >>> DeS >>>>> DaS2

Dark Souls III is just the greatest hits album, but at least it's still enjoyable. I still only give it like a 6/10

You're mistaking my hatred for DaS2 for love for DaS3

>>377230402
all your arguments could be used to prove DS2 is better than ds1 just saying.

>DaS3 just adds on to DaS lore in some very cool ways, while the lore of DaS2 is unimpressive
LOL

>cool

also only reddit still uses this word
way to make it obvious

>>377222575
The 2 crabs in Ariandel are much more cancerous.

>>377229939
>Gets proven wrong
>"B-but those are memes..."
Pfft, you're a bigger faggot than I am.

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>majority of people on /v/ are mediocre or fucking trash in any online game I've seen them play in
>yet every souls thread everyone is a pro player that never dies and breezes through the games like they're nothing

Something doesn't add up here.

>>377230402
>DaS3 just adds on to DaS lore in some very cool ways, while the lore of DaS2 is unimpressive
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahhhah

AAAAAAAAHHAHHA


DS3 just shit the bed and is a dark souls reskin of Bloodborne. A pretty mediocre one at that.

>>377230895
>cool
>reddit
In 2 years even breathing air is reddit. Holy shit you are a faggot.

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>>377229880
>go down the well
>hear one of these fuckers breathing
>stop climbing down the ladder and look around
>it's perched on the ceiling less than five feet away, staring right at me

>>377228770
The player cannot rotate whilst chugging, but npc phantoms are allowed to. That's the bullshit.

>dodge slow swing
>dodge slow swing
>dodge slow swing
>crab stands still
>smack a couple of times
>crab staggers
>smack more
>crab dead
>if crab not dead, repeat

Ringed knights are harder ffs

>>377229225
Giant crabs exist in literally two fucking zones

>>377226398
Get a bigger sword

Wild West Souls when

>>377226187
I don't think that's how you use that word.

>>377230874
>good level design

for every cathedral of the deep there's a bunch of uninspired shit in das3 like profaned capital or road of sacrifices

also das2 does have some pretty good levels tbf; forest, lost bastile, no man's wharf and most of the dlc levels are great

>bosses

ah yes, who could forget such excellent bossfights as vortd, big tree, deacons of the deep, wolnir, yhorm, aldrich, crystal sage, acnient wyvern, old demon king and oceiros

dark souls 3 just does a better job of presenting its garbage bosses so that you're left with the impression that it was better than it really is, the game has just as many garbage bossfights as das2, it just does a better job at covering them up

also note that most of das3's underwhelming bosses appear early, you have to slog through that shit every time you want to play through the game, in das2 you don't even need to kill the 4 old ones to progress

>playing well

dude roll spamming and r1 mashing lmao

>good musical scores

yeah this is fair enough it does some great boss music

>>377231286

What did he mean by this?

>>377227192
DaS3PVP.webm

>>377230996
Really makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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>>377230996
It's almost like a single player experience is easier because every enemy isn't an asshat gravitating towards what the meta says is the most viable option, as well as an air of unpredictability since you can't immediately judge somebody's playstyle just from looking at them...
Very mysterious... and it really fires up those neurons... hmmm...
I'll have to mull this over some more before I get back to you on this...

>>377228770
Pretty sure he tried to go for a backstab, and the dude was moving and facing him instead of staying still.

>>377230874
DaS2 had some solid music that wasn't basically all choirs though the other points are definitely lacking.
It wasn't significantly worse than DaS3 because DaS3 had some bad habits in all of those areas.

>Greatest hits album
This is more poorly recorded mixtape tier as opposed to greatest hits tier.

>>377231286
>Crucifixion woods
>Farron Keep
>Smouldering Lake
>Outskirts of the Painting

They would have put it in the Ringed City as well but they put the Dragonslayer armor there instead because it would've attracted even more attention to their swamp/crab fetish

>>377231498
That giant crabs literally only exist in the Path of Sacrifices and the Lava Lake.

You can add the DLC snow area to that though. There are 3 crabs there as wellö

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>>377231379
Would that be the Blaster Knuckle of vidya?

>>377231542

Still wouldn't add up to everyone being literally a gaming god that parries every attack, dodges everything, and never dies to anything.

WHY DOES DARK SOULS 3 HAVE SO MANY FUCKING SWAMPS


WHY?

TELL ME WHY?

WORST SOULSBORNE GAME FOR THIS REASON ALONE

NO MORE SWAMPS

games with great combat that play smooth as butter will come out, with masterfully designed levels that are creative and fun, the bosses will be intense and difficult and have a lot of variety, with sweeping musical scores that create more memorable moments than you can count, but still we are forever doomed to the Dark Souls II fan spouting...

"Muh PvP

>>377226052
it was patched to become easier. Originally both could shoot you when you reached the top, but they moved one so you only have to deal with the one on the right

>>377230404
>>377230621
Try 16hp, mate. Not even kidding. Maybe something's been patched, since that was near the beginning of release. I know it's 16hp, 'cause I still have that same fucking character, and I will take a fucking screenshot to prove it if I have to. I will quit work right now, drive home, and drag my PS4 out the closet.

If it's not in Dark Souls 2, it's not the most bullshit enemy

Take a pick

>ogres
>spinning fire lizards
>infinite stamina mace knights

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>>377231828
>SOULSBORNE
I do wish they chilled out with that shit tho

>>377230996
Name the Souls game and the place and I will fucking rekt you son but only if you give discord so you can hear my dubstep blazing while i do it

>>377227250
You are wading into very VERY subjective territory here.

>>377227593
I'm pretty sure I just poison arrowed them because they were so bullshit

man i actually really loved poison arrows in that game, so broken.

>>377224851
>skeletons
>DeS
fuck those cart wheeling faggots. I was ready to murder someone on that one section where you have to fight them and the gold variant while the manta rays shot at you

>>377231969
That's the most objective analogy in the whole thread, since it's just chronological order.

>>377225917
I'm convinced the only people who have difficulty with these guys are people who rely on shields instead of rolling
They're tough, but nothing amazing

>>377231934
UGS Knights in 3 are infinite stamina bullshit too.

>>377232065
I had to cheese the fuck out of them as well m8. Lost tens of thousands of souls to them cunts.

>>377224874
Someone shoop in the hands holding a switch please!

>>377232310
but at least they stop

mace archknights are just combo combo combo did you switch to poison arrows yet

>>377223605
THE FUCK IS THAT IS THAT FROM BLOODBORNE? WHERE IS THIS LOCATED SO I CAN CLEARLY FUCKING AVOID IT

>>377232101
oh boy, i had the exact same thing

>>377231492
I wouldn't call most of the bosses in Dark Souls III the best thing in the world, but at least they're fun to fight and look cool and have decent music to go with them. That's half of a decent boss at least. Dark Souls 2 bosses dont even have that. Meanwhile there are a large handful of great bosses in Dark Souls 3. The Abyss Watchers, Dancer, Dragonslayer Armor, Lorian and Lothric, Nameless King, Sister Friede, and Gael

Were the DLC areas for 3 good? Not really, but at least the final bosses were great

>>377232558
chalice dungeons, only gets staggered by bullets, but they travel in packs arisen and have invincibility while lying down

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>>377232705
>travel in packs arisen
This post is gold. Thanks for the tip.

>>377232679
>Dragonslayer Armor
>good bossfight

I personally hated that fucker. He is not really hard, but those meme spells from the side are so stupid. Nameless King is imo still the best fight in the game.

Looks so fucking impressive and its a great fight in general

>>377232705
>but they travel in packs arisen
I like you

Literally no1 posted those 2 dogs by the hidden bonfire

>>377232705
Does their kind hate ice and fore both?

>>377232868
It was painfully obvious that Nameless was a BB leftover

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Hey guys remember me?

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>>377230874
>good level design
>when almost every area that isnt a swamp has a swamp-like section shoved somewhere into it just to waste your fucking time
Miyazaki has a raging hardon for swamps and it really shows in DS3.

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>>377226217
>There are a few items that you can only get if you kill them. Still optional, but it's a dick move to put an enemy this strong in a place where your mobility is severely hampered, plus you have to fight more than one at the same time.

giant depraved ones are a hundred times worse
>player can't roll in swamp at all ever
>these motherfuckers can tear ass across the swamp like they're Sonic the fucking hedgehog
>most likely to kill you in one hit
>that area with all the items and three of these cunts

>>377232260
>Actually ever fighting them

Most are placed in such a way that you can either lure them over to the white birch tree for the archer to kill them or conveniently next to a fire.
You can probably alluring skull them into the fire but I never tried.

>>377232679
A lot of the bosses in 2 had decent music to go with them as well and some aren't half bad to fight either.

DLC had 1 decent boss each (and even Friede is kind of meh) for 3 and DaS2 DLC had several decent bosses. Unless you overvalue Gael or deduct points for filler bosses (Which the DaS2 DLC has more of because it also has 1.5 times the bosses) the bosses in the DaS2 DLC are overall better.

>>377233105
I always cheesed these fuckers to get stuck on trees/their aggro range

>>377232868
any fight that involves gravity in Souls is automatically bullshit

Iron Golem gets a pass since it can fall too.

>>377233008
We would know if BB had ice damage.

>>377232868
>grinding embers
>go to nameless king
>no one tries to solo him and you get summoned all day everyday
>have fought him so many times that this fight lost all difficulty for me
I want to like this fight, but i can't anymore. Even the music became stale.
People need to summon on other bosses.

>>377233008
fire strengthens the beasts

>>377233089
this is probably the dumbest thing posted in this thread

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*knocks you into the lava*

>>377233468
>smack his hands
>go behind corner
>wait for attack to end
>run back out
>repeat

>>377233468
that is par for the course, what's bullshit is the hole in the arena.

>>377233134
The bosses in the Dark Souls 3 DLC are 3 times better in terms of quality than anything DaS2 has to offer

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>>377233468
Old Iron King is one of the easiest Souls bosses. Come on, Anon.

>>377223605
Only in chalice dungeons

>>377233623
sure, doesn't change the fact that there's a dumb little instant death hole in the tiny arena that he knocks you into every now and then

>>377233571
ur nails m8 can i subscribe 2 ur stream

>>377233613
Really? I thought the grave guy with the wolf was pretty lame. Same goes for the demon prince.

AoA dropped the ball not having a rotted boss after that infested area

>>377233786
those bosses were shit but I still hold them higher up than Dark Souls 2 bosses

well, maybe not wolf man

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>>377223995
>GGGLGLGLGLGLGLGLLGLLLGLGRLGLRLLGLRGLRLGLRLGLRGL....!!!!

>>377226428
Dude I'm not even that guy but calm the fuck down Jesus they weren't that bad.

>>377233752
Don't lock on. Keep yourself aware of your surroundings and you won't fall into the little hole.

>>377233468
>Bell covenant
Edgy

*noclips through terrain one-shoting you with a body slam*

phish nothing personal kid

>>377224851
>shark giants
Those fuckers make me laugh to this day. They are custom built to be stupid as fuck

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>>377234332
Don't let me see you on my belltower anytime soon, motherfucker.

>>377232260
Anon you fight them in the swamp and more than one at a time, fatrolling doesn't do shit when you got three of these fuckers trying to slam you + being chased by a horde of ghost skellies

>>377231065
>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahhhah

now that's cringey

>>377234534
you fat roll in the swamp?
I have literally never seen myself fat roll in DS3, was convinced it got removed.

>>377223605

where exactly are these in the chalice dungeons. are they rare? i've went through every dungeon and have never seen one, i even killed the queen.

>>377222575
Go home limit

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>>377231065
>AAAAAAAAHHAHHA

>>377234818
been a while since I played but I think you fat roll in the deeper areas
and if memory serves those enemies spawn near the deep areas

>>377227520
Burger King wears the best armor in the game, but a lot of people don't find him on their first playthrough. It's old king Doran.

>>377227250
But anon, I like all the Souls games and BB.