CUTSCENE AFTER CUTSCENE -AFTER CUTSCENE -AFTER CUTSCENE -AFTER

They had to cut dungeons/areas like the golf course and light course so they padded the game out

>not hacking your 3ds and importing saves from save manager to skip opening cutscene
I mean you had the tools all along OP, you just didn't use them

Whoever also thought it was a good idea in BW1.

The cutscenes aren't even that bad, what blows is the awful level design.

they finally got to play a modern jrpg and followed the trend

It's there to pad the game, otherwise it would be short as fuck.

That said, incredibly comfy game.

>want to replay a game
>remember THAT part

Unfortunately for sun and moon, its the first 2 hours.

>>377212637
i dropped it because of this shit
i've read visual novels with less bullshit than sun and moon have

>>377215205
git gut

>>377215236
at what, pressing a over and over?

It wouldn't be so bad if I could skip them.

>>377215205
This, at least visual novels have interedting stories

Tons of cutscenes + horrible pokemon designs made me quit

>want to go slightly away from the disgustingly linear path the game wants you to go on
>"Hey anon, you're going the wrong way!"

S/M had some of the worst roadblocks in recent memory.

Remember when shills were calling this game the second coming of PokeJesus based solely on trailers and it turned out to be one of the worst in the history of the franchise.

>>377214919
BW has cutscenes when you enter a route and about to face a gym. In a few cases your rivals try and fuck you up after a route or you have a scene after beating a gym leader.

SM has cutscenes when you enter a route, get halfway through said route, and when you finish the route. It also has cutscenes when you enter a city, look around the city, and about to leave a city. Not to mention before, during, and after a trial.

What makes SM so much worse is the amount of time it takes to finish one cutscene even when mashing A. The text is slow, the animation is slow, and there are way too many cutscenes in general.

>>377215197

there is more then that bros

>lets see what pokemon I can catch first
>80% of them are flying type you don't want to smell or waste time on

>>377215340
>This, at least visual novels have interedting stories
yeah this too, it wouldn't be so bad if i actually gave a shit about what people were saying but it was all just filler bullshit. i have a high tolerance for bs but it was just ridiculous there. i'd take most shitty romhacks over sun and moon anyday, at least they don't waste my fucking time.

>>377215469
>you don't want to smell or waste time on
fuck off blue

>>377215403
XY and ORAS were way worse. This one still has serious problems but at least it wasnt braindead easy thanks to gen 5 level scaling.

I agree on the cutscenes. Felt like the worst first time playthrough because of it.

>>377212637
To make sure people wouldn't soft reset just for get a shiny female popplio

>that 10-minute unskippable cutscene after you beat the champion

>>377215403
Pokedrones are the most delusional of the lot. It's hard to tell how good these games are without actually playing them because no matter how fucking terrible they make the games they'll still receive endless praise.

>>377215556
That isn't a problem, though.

>>377215529
i disagree, imo sun and moon were the worst pokemon games to date. talk about game mechanics all you want but even when i'm pissed off about something, at least i wasn't bored out of my goddamn mind mashing a.

>>377212637
Playing some of the older entries after playing Sun and Moon was pretty jarring.

Not just the graphical difference but the old games did have abit more freedom and difficulty aspect to it.

Like what the fuck happened?

>>377215360
Gen 4 was the last time roadblocking wasn't a thing and even then Platinum crushed what little freedom you were given in the choice between Wake and Maylene.

But what I think I hate most about Sun/Moon is how you'll run into the same 3/4 Pokemon every route by end game. It makes Nuzlocking suck because if you haven't caught anything unique by the third Island, you have to be ready for the never ending stream of Water Types

>>377215529
XY I can understand the flaws because of the time they spent on future-proofing with those insane models. ORAS is RS for better or worse. Neither feels as clunky, empty, frustrating and unfinished as SM.

>>377215601
Turn text speed on fast retard. Rather be bored during cutscenes then the entire fucking game. XY also stopped you every route but you probably forgot that.

Magnemite was the most based Pokemon in my SM playthrough.

>>377215754
i ALWAYS turn text speed on fast
i have since like 1997

>>377215340
This. Shit and Poo has nothing good about it and has objectively the worst designs in the series.

>>377215403
Also this. Shit and Pooay very well be one of the worst games of the 2010s due to the sheer negative impact that it had on the series. Because of it, former fans are abandoning the series en masse.

Also reminder to ignore shills who still think it's a good game.

>>377215642
Nu-Pokemon isn't real Pokemon, it's a parasite.

>>377215601
I think everyone on 4chan will agree with you there. Except for /vp/, they're as delusional as ever.

Daily reminder that
>worst story in the series
>not a single likable character
>worst Pokemon designs
>silky smooth 10fps
>worst music
"Sonic 06 of Pokemon" was a meme they said.

>>377212786
You realize those were all rumors by fans, right? One thing I know they cut was the garage next to the player's house, because part of it still remains in the game. Same with a bathroom. The only thing mildly interesting on the golf course is that there's a tree at the end of it, but the entire course looks barely there.

Everyone in this thread need to die

>>377215754
>XY also stopped you every route but you probably forgot that.
xy didn't stop you five times per route for five minutes each to talk about your friend's bowel movement

>>377215826
pretty much did, especially since you had FOUR rivals

At least they toned it down in SM

>>377215820
What's the matter, Cuck and Poon shill? Mad that your little Sonic 06-tier abomination is getting the shit it deserves?

Go back to jacking off to the gaudy Christmas trees you call "alola waifus" cuck. Leave this thread to the adults.

>>377215921
all i know is that i spend a lot of my free time reading visual novels and i didn't have a problem with x/y's exposition but sun/moon's was way too much for me
xy weren't the greatest but at least at most points i still felt like i wanted to keep playing. every moment of s/m felt like a slog until i finally just gave up on it.

how would a first gen maxed Charizard compete against a current gen maxed Charizard?

>>377216150
Current gen would have far better moves and a mega form, not even a contest.

Am I the only one who thinks Lillie is a borderline Mary sue? I don't get the deal with her asides from being cute.

Also the story is unsatisfying. "mom went crazy haha" seriously?

>>377216239
idk but the porn of her sure is nice

>>377216208
>mega form
what is this? Charizard has another evolution now?

>>377216317
4 years ago retard

>>377216239
All of the characters were dogshit, the most hated characters in the history of the series.

Actually, everything about Shit and Poo is the most hated thing in the series. It is literally irredeemable.

>>377216014
I'd have more fun ripping the veins off my dick than playing the literal Pokemon equivalent of Superman 64 ever again, and that's a sentiment I can assure you most of 4chan agrees on.

>>377216317
this normie board

>>377216317
x and y added mega evolution, although it's not really a full 'nother evolution. it's like a thing you can do in battle to boost him.

The story isn't even what burns me the most, I'm pissed what they did with the bottom screen.
>replace all the neat, functional stuff from Gen 6 with a Pokedex map that throws out the occasional cheesy one-liner
>Everything about the Festival Plaza, from how slow it is to the clunky menus and interface

http://www.strawpoll.me/12985173
http://www.strawpoll.me/12985173
http://www.strawpoll.me/12985173

>>377215807
>I think everyone on 4chan will agree with you there. Except for /vp/, they're as delusional as ever.
>Daily reminder that
>>worst story in the series
>>not a single likable character
>>worst Pokemon designs
>>silky smooth 10fps
>>worst music
>"Sonic 06 of Pokemon" was a meme they said.
I'm not sure if you really played the game at all.
>Nu-Pokemon
Aah yes i know what kind of person are you.

>>377216498
he is baiting anon, just don´t reply

why is pokebarneyfag so autistic?

>>377216476
>>377216371
>>377215930
>>377215807
I dont go in pokemon threads, is this some sort of autistic pasta..?

>>377216461
Gamefreak just can't stick to something good. I thought the bottom screen info was absolutely perfected by HGSS, but every other game after that just randomly changes to see what else works. They're like fucking Sonic Team

>>377216498
The Pokebarneyfag? Pay him no mind. Actually, I think it's an impostor because the real one hung himself after seeing how successful Sun/Moon were.

>Get Grubbin as early as the beginning of the game
>Literally can't evolve Charjabug until the LAST island
Why the fuck would ANYONE think this was a good idea?

>>377212637
>Persona 5 is 90 hours of 80% VN cutscenes
>No one complains
>Pokemon has cutscenes
>Better make a thread about it on /v/
It's only bad when nintendo does it.

>>377212637
>CUTSCENE

You forgot the walls of unskippable text

>unskippable cutscenes
>read wall unskippable text
>after that more cutscenes
>more text
>finally get to pick a pokemon
>watch several more cutscenes and read more dialogue
>almost over two fucking hours into the game and still doing forced tutorials.
>dropped it and never played it again

I get it that some people might be new to pokemon, but fucking come ony why not giving people a option to skip and play the game? THis is not the first pokemon game ever

>>377215529
ORAS was fine. People are just butt-blasted they didn't use Emerald as the base, that's the only real flaw.

ORAS have the best bottom screen features to date. Useful map that marks rematches and planted berries, the best wifi interface, pokeradar, super training, etc.

Then SM chucked it all out the fucking window and gives us nothing but a shitty map with that retarded rotom frame taking up half the screen space. I'd rather have BWs useless bottom screen again, at least it didn't fucking talk to you.

>>377216691
>Pokemon is about battling monsters and becoming the very best
>Previous Pokemon games didn't have a metric fuckload of cutscenes to make up for the fact that the game is short in itself

>Persona is about meeting people, becoming friends, and having battling be apart of the story as well
>At least gives you the option to skip dialogue and cutscenes
I don't know why you even bothered trying to make a comparison.

>>377216353
>>377216375
haven't played pokemon since Silver

>>377216317
Actually 2, Mega Charizard X & Y which were added in Pokémon X/Y (the first Pokémon game for the 3DS released 3 years and some months ago).

They're basically the Warp Digievolutions from Digimon Adventure: Instead of a Tamer with feelings and a digivice there's a Trainer with a Keystone, feelings and the Pokémon aarries a Mega Evolution stone. Then when you use the Mega Evolution, the Pokémon temporarily evolves to get stronger just like a Digimon would.

I usually hate Pokemon games. Every one that I've played I've fucking hated. I hated the dumb Pokemon, I hated naming them, I hated how they only have four moves, I hated how there were no passives to speak of.

I hated how "each pokemon is unique!" but not because of them each having cool unique passive abilities, but each of them has stupid hidden values that can't be seen in the game world without cheats. I hated how easy every Pokemon game was, I hated how the 1v1 system makes it so switching out Pokemon is so fucking easy. I hated how Multiplayer is fucking ass, there's no point to trading Pokemon because besides a couple (like eleven) random pokemon that you can only get in a certain game, there is no reason to trade unless you're a retarded kid.

But for some reason, I really enjoyed Sun and Moon. I liked the cut scenes, I think they added something to the game, even if they weren't that good, they were funny to laugh at sometimes. I just enjoyed the game a lot more than the other ones, but I still wish they would go full SMT in the next one with stats/moves and so on.

I know nobodies gonna read this, but whatever

>>377216498
>I'm not sure if you really played the game at all.
And I'm not sure if you really paid attention to this thread at all. Nobody likes this game, no matter how hard shills damage control.
Just look at >>377216753 >>377216014 >>377215720 >>377215601
Games that were previously considered the worst in the series have been topped.

>>377216576
>>377216632
>boogeyman scaremongering

>>377216691
You can fast forward and skip in Persona 5.

>>377215660
>Nuzlocke
Is there anything more JUST in the Pokemon franchise than this garbage?

>>377216887
Nice blog falseflagger.

I can´t read this thread without thinking you are suffering an asthma attack

>>377216894
I made one of those posts, and I still like it, it was just a little disappointing. You need to stop sperging out and calling everyone a shill.

>>377216868
recommendation time
https://hax.iimarck.us/topic/4670/
this is fun. supposedly the 3.0 release will have color.
https://hax.iimarck.us/post/42387/
this is fun

although both of these guys are going too wild with new tiles and ruining the aesthetics imo, but other than that i really like both of these hacks and think most of the stuff improves upon the originals.

also you should definitely play emerald, it's lots of fun. absolutely worth playing.

>>377216691
I truly enjoyed more the story and the characters of Sun and Moon than the persona 5 ones. I really don't know why...

>>377212637
>Complaining about the most cinematic and anime-like Pokemon games to date

Fuck off

>>377216863
>persona is about the story
this is bait

>>377212637
That's honestly the reason why I couldn't continue. All these god damned cutscenes and the only thing I wanted to do was catch and breed pokemons like I did in my youth.

>>377216886
What's the mechanics behind it?

Is there a meter to accumulate?
Can any pokemon Mega-Volve?
Multiple times per battle?
Duration for the entire battle?
Reset move PP, or different moveset altogether?
Change pokemon characteristic?
Cooldown between battles?
Any downfall to doing it as often as possible?
Resource cost?

>>377217053
They're terrible and every character, especially Lillie, Kukui and Hau are complete garbage

Also the shittiest protagonist designs in the series by far

>>377217053
>>Complaining about the most cinematic and anime-like Pokemon games to date
That's BW

>>377216691
Persona lets you skip and fast forward


for some fucking reason they removed the fast forward option in sun and moon

Its still the best pokemon game they've released. I'm not saying pokemon games are anything spectacular anymore but there ya go

>>377217202
>My Friend Hau

He was just so happy to have his ass kicked every other minute. I loved him.

>>377216887
your opinion a shit

>>377212637
What's the best emulator to play heartgold/soulsilver?

>>377217160
the pokemon has to have a held item that lets them mega-evolve, so in competitive play you're sacrificing leftovers or w/e else you might have instead, although it's always worth it
you press a thing that lets you mega-evolve. there's no cost and iirc it doesn't even take a turn. your stats are boosted heavily as long as you're mega-evolved.
i think you can only do it once per fight, though. idr how long it lasts.

>>377217202
>Also the shittiest protagonist designs in the series by far
That's not Afro Boy and Spandex Girl

>>377217230
how is it the best?

This is a shitposter from /vp/. Ignore and report.

>82 posts
>0 images
where's the pokegirls?

>>377217348
try it by yourself

>>377217285
>although it's always worth it
Absolutely false. Many megas are better off in their base form with an item.

>>377217348
cute-girl-exposing-her-flat-chest.png

>>377217202
Kukui was fine but I couldn't stand the others. Was glad when Lillie finally fucked off.

>>377217348
>>>/aco/

>>377212854
nobody ever calld you out and you never took a hint that you're an autistic sperg I assume

>>377217428
if you say it, it's probably true. i know next to nothing about competitive battling, i just never remembered seeing a case where it was better so i assumed it always was.

>>377216239
I thought Lillie was okay. There were definitely some points where I thought they were hammering her in to make you care, but overall I still found some room to care. It doesn't help that we already had the "guardian who doesn't actually care about their child" bit with N. Gladion was the more interesting child.

>>377216887
I find it funny that people complain so much about cutscenes in Pokemon, a series with such minimal gameplay that it makes other JRPGs look deep. You spend most of your time spectating anyway.

The sheer amount annoyed me at first, but after the intro they were less frequent and I enjoyed them.

>>377217776
>a series with such minimal gameplay that it makes other JRPGs look deep
Are you sure at this?

As flawed as this gen is, what I love about it is that you are the rival.

>>377217323
>trials were more interesting than gyms
>story was shit but not as shitty as others, the cutscenes helped
>objectively better graphics and setting
>better music
>lots of qol stuff with the ui
The only thing they didnt get right was character customization, xy did that better. Pokemon is still cancerous and piss easy, really wish theyd add more end game stuff for autists. Random encounters are a dead meme too and just make some areas a chore

>just buy repels :^)
No, fuck you its shit design

>>377217524
Garchomp, Tyranitar, Lati@s and Blaziken are pretty much never worth running mega. With others like Slowbro, Alakazam, Heracross, Scizor, Aerodactyl, Gyarados, while they may be stronger in their mega form, it's about opportunity cost. You're often better off running them with an item while using another mega.

>>377217971
Just buy repels you absolute fucking retard

>>377212637
It's baffling how such a Successful series like Pokemon has ignored basic game features like:
>Multiple save files
>Difficulty selection (B/W2 sorta did this)
>Skippable cutscenes
>Skippable tutorials
Masuda is a hack.

>>377217971
>>story was shit but not as shitty as others, the cutscenes helped
Nah the story was alright, is pretty well scripted.

>>377215660
>Gen 4 was the last time roadblocking wasn't a thing
Gen 4 was ground zero, the pissed off psyducks, the hikers and reporter blocking both exits of a city, the fucking Sunnyshore blackout lasting the entirety of the game (what the fuck), compare this to Hoenn where the only natural black worth mentioning was the Lillycove one

In 2016 I played both Pokemon Sun and Digimon Cyber Sleuth.
Despite never playing a Digimon game before in my life or caring about the series at all I found it much more enjoyable.

>>377212637
>be masuda
>ok guys here is black white
>we give you 150 new ones, a huge world with many exploration possibilities, also here you got many postgame stuff the other half of the map.
>oh you don´t like it..ok..
>well here is a new game with 90% old ones, the most linear maps of all time and constant remember how cool the first gen was also no post game
>now it´s time for another guy to do stuff
>here is a linear world, with many cutscenes you can´t skip, many kanto mons and other stuff.

And for me Sun moon is the second best installment. The vibes it gave were great. But just remember, everything bad we got now, was mostly because BW failed and faggots bought XY.

I like the "Shit and Poo" poster, tbqh.

>>377218189
>Playing cyber sluts and enjoying it
You need to kill yourself.

>>377218232
Why didn't people like BW? I liked it a lot at the time, at least more than 4th Gen (didn't play Platinum).

>>377218123
Multiple save files defeat the purpose of trading, which is a big part of the game. You could just trade with yourself.
Set battle style has always been a difficulty setting. You can also not use exp share, not use affection, use a full team of 6, etc. If you don't do these thing you have no right to complain about difficulty.
Masuda wasn't even involved in this game.

>>377217484
What's autistic about using easily accessible methods to bypass two hours of unskippable cutscenes?

>>377218260
Sorry I forget we all need to hate video games around here.

Will nintendo EVER make a next gen classic formula pokemon game? Surely if they were jews theyd have done it by now

>>377218393
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2077663324/new-pokemon-mmo-game-and-vr

If you are willing to fund it.

>>377218308
because mostly new ones. And you know how genwunners and other fags act? Oh man these new pokeymen look so shit, where is my broo.
Etc. Also they really didn´t do a good job in the world map. The routes are probably the best you ever saw in a pokemon game, but if you look at the map it looks like you run around in a circle. BW2 fixed this a lot!

In the end even I didn´t like BW that much until I played XY and realized how good BW was. They still could have did a mixed dex with 60% new ones 40% old ones, so the trainer variation was better.

>>377212637
I wouldn't have minded S/M if they gave Lillie the boot. I can't remember the last time a character has been so annoying and useless.

>>377218232
>Loved the fact that BW forced you to use the newer mons
>People fucking despised it and crucified the games for it

>>377218458
REEEEEEEEEEEE

As interesting as the Alolan Pokemon may have been, a part of me says shouldn't have done it because now it's another gimmick of changing Pokemon on top of Mega-volution that they will have to slap onto any future games.

>>377212637
Im stuck on that part where you have to fight the tenticle girl that has long blonde hair I have not played it in months its impossable to beat :/

>>377218308
Shit designs

Pokemon designs sell the game. It's why RB sold so well despite the multiple flaws. Ignoring the ice cream and trash can memes, the designs were ugly and the pixelation ingame didn't make them look any better

>>377218489
BW felt like the first real sequel because it wasn't stuffed with old Pokemon and made a massive visual leap forward.

>>377218189
>royal knights on hard
I didn't think it would be worse than Eater Adam.

>>377218308
Forced you to use new pokemon. I actually found it refreshing and it's the closet I've come to playing gen 1 for the first time even if a lot of the new pokemon were retreads.

>>377218530
The animated sprites were great and it's just sad they ditched them for generic 3D models

>>377218509
They have already proven that they don't need to do that at all. In Sun/Moon some of the mega stones are missing and Primal forms aren't available at all.

>>377218489
>>377218537
i liked b/w plenty, not everyone hated it

>>377218462
The battle animations in bw are shit along with alot of the pokemon new to that gen

>>377218232
>a huge world with many exploration possibilities, also here you got many postgame stuff the other half of the ma
Unova is a fucking circle. What "many exploration possibilities"? Though it does have a few areas that you can explore later, even though they're small and usually only have a few items in it and nothing else.

There's no "many postgame stuff". The other half of the map has FUCKING NOTHING in it outside Lacunosa town, and the routes are short. Literally 30 minutes and you're done. That's it for the postgame. Really fucking cool am i right.

I like BW too but please don't go and call SM linear while praising BW. Also Cheren and Bianca stop you 23020302 times every fucking town.

>>377215807
100% agree with this. S&M singlehandedly killed the Pokemon franchise as we knew it. It was easily one of the worst games I've ever played. With it being the best selling 3DS game by a large margin, the future is looking incredibly bleak as well. XY and ORAS were indeed bad, but this game was a borderline scam

>>377218509
As far as making old Pokemon relevant, I think it was a good idea. It avoids power creep unlike megas. You know that nobody is going to bother using a regular sandshrew ingame anymore after so many gens, unless they are new to the series

There weren't any mainline pokemon games worth playing after BW2
Play mystery dungeon instead fags

>>377218645
It's worse in SM.

ITT: white boys with ADHD

Why can't i post images. I have a chicken-chan folder right here to dump

Can't believe you guys were insane enough to buy Sun or Moon after what they delivered in ORAS. XY was a first attempt in 3D and that's fine. A lacking story, game too easy, a little pandering here and there, but still enjoyable.

ORAS was trash and all those cutscenes made me realize that the direction that Pokemon is taking is not for me anymore. A shame, after spending 17 years of my life playing it, but one day it would happen.

>>377218590
Primal forms are in the game. You get the orbs in the mall.

>>377218590
>they aren't available at all despite you being able to transform fug as soon as you reach the E4, then buy the red/blue orb postgame in the ancient goods store in hau'oli
???

>>377215197
Unfortunately for me the whole game is THAT part, I couldn't finish it. Was there even a elite four or post game?

>>377215529
>ORAS was way worse
The only reason you're still bitching about ORAS is because of what >>377216753 says. So basically "muh frontier".
They perfected the PSS from X&Y, you can travel to routes just by opening the map, super training was easy, the PokéRadar made shiny chaining easy and the overall pacing was good.
I respect the fact that even though the game was piss easy even without the exp. share on, they gave us the option to say no to some handholding (i.e. "Hey anon, want me to take you back to this town instead of having to walk all the way there?".
My only gripe with the story was how they made Granite Cave an optional dungeon and how they give you a free legendary half way through it.
>>377215807
>Except for /vp/, they're as delusional as ever
Mate, they literally go into a circlejerk cycle after the release of every game when they shitpost about the most recent release and say it's shit (in this case, they are correct) while saying the last game (which they called shit one week or so after release) was actually good. Rinse and repeat.
If a third version comes out though, people will praise both the new game and Sun and Moon with the excuse being "it was the basis for the best game in the franchise". And then the circlejerk will start again when the next generation/remake comes around.

>>377218489
I also hated it, because I didn´t liked the designs, eventhough now I absolutely adore some mons of that game.

>>377218583
just this. 3D models killed so many old pokemons. E.g. Venusaur. If you see the sprite it looks like a jungle on his back, on the 3d Models just 4 leafs and a tree.
Also it was great to see different sprites in the new gens. That felt absolutely great.

But, I must admit with the 3D we can have mons with unique artstyle. See litten and the pre evo of bewear.

>>377218689
Being worse doesn't stop BW from doing it just as badly. SM wastes more of your time because they spin the camera to show off the 3D models and animations.

>>377218713
You are also a white boy with ADHD.

>>377218610
Gen 5 was also the last time /vp/ had a semblance of being good

>>377218539
The royal knights werent difficult at all unless you had a team of shit digis, you have a huge fucking party in that game, the only thing that was somewhat challenging was the 3 ulforce

>rival ambushes you on new route/town to talk your head off
>finally they shut up and turn to leave
>that fucking exclamation point appears, "oh I forgot to tell you something!"
>have to suffer through endless text all over again
Bianca in B/W was the worst offender

>>377212637
Managed to be worse than Gen 6

>>377218310
In what way does multiple saves defeat the purpose of trading?

Am I the only one that likes mega evolution? I think its kinda neat, though some mega forms are kinda lackluster like slowbro/venusaur

>>377218645
>unova is fucking circle
if you see the world map yes otherwise no.

>no exploration
for fucks sake what do you mean? You have route 1 which gives you access to a whole new Island route with surf. or route 10 with the ability to see a legendary in the moment you get surf. What else do you want?

>no postgame stuff
oh yeah just let me check the new gens with their postgame..Oh I can explore some of Poni? You mean the 3 routes there? Awesome!
How about XY, Oh I can go to the battle maison? that´s it how great!

Fuck that. Even though they stop you sometimes, you can just press B and skip it.

>>377212637
everyone who praised black and white for having "good stories" is responsible for the state of modern pokemon games

they're almost unplayable, the pacing is glacial because of how padded they are with story shit, who in their right mind plays pokemon games for the story?

>>377218914
>talking shit about mega venasour
go eat a bag of dicks

>>377218458
>"Official" Pokemon MMO
>from some barely literate spaghetti nigger trying to profit off a Nintendo property

Nice try, Fabio.

You can instantly tell an idiot casual when they cry for a Pokemon MMO. What the fuck would you even do in it that you can't already do in the games? Billions of dollars on online infrastructure just so you can see other faggots running around and have a chatroom? You're fucking idiots.

>>377218808
B2/W2 was a lot better in that aspect
Hugh only showed up if team plasma was doing shit and his entire dialog was pretty much "FUCK YOU TEAM PLASMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA", no annoying endless exposition

>>377218835
Because you can trade with yourself. Just put a mon on GTS from one save file and take it with the other. Now trade evolutions are meaningless.

>>377218914
Too bad they completely abandoned the idea now that they are bringing new forms to old pokemons

Honestly, what is the point of bringing this brand new concept and a gen after drop it but at the same time allow the old stones in the game? Seems a bit out of place

>>377218985
Hold a moment, i didnt like the multiple fades to black but there wasnt any problem with the story.

>>377218995
well, pokemon in a large continuous 3D world could be interesting

last few games have pretty much amputated any sense of exploration the games had left

I don't get why people are bashing BW1's cutscene ratio.

>>377219076
>Too bad they completely abandoned the idea now that they are bringing new forms to old pokemons
That is literally what mega evolution is. Same with regional forms in SM.

>>377219116
Which doesn't require it to be an MMO.

Team Skull was a nice change of pace from the typical villian team. If only Aether Foundation didn't take over the second half of the second half of the story.

>>377218308
Retarded story that gets pushed on you more than it should, boring region that while there is good potential for exploration it's all roadblocked off for most of the game leaving the region as pretty much a straight line during the main adventure, several late-game catches won't be able to evolve until past the natural level curve for the main adventure, that "second half of the region" is maybe a fourth of it and as empty as Kanto is in the Johto games. As for only having new Pokemon for the main story, I only use the Pokemon introduced with a region in every game anyways, so that did nothing for me good or bad.

BW2 is pretty good though. All the new areas are pretty good, some of the old ones that weren't very interesting get touched up, the level curve accommodates pretty much everything except Hydreigon.

>>377218914
My only problem with Megas is that they don't have them for every single final stage.

>>377218808
This is what i hated the most about BW, how everything needs to be tied to the story
>want to leave this town? Your two rivals need to fight you?
>Want to fight this gym? First you need to explore the town's landmark you would have explored anyways
>want to cross this route? First you need to go in this evil team sidequest
>want to cross the bridge? Sorry, we huh...its being rebuilt, right, lets go with that, come back a month later after saving the world
With all the Kanto wank happening they really should go back to how non linear the games used to be

>>377219210
>Which doesn't require it to be an MMO.
well aware but at this point it seems like an mmo would be the best bet for an exploration based pokemon game

>>377219092
>there wasnt any problem with the story

Explain your reasoning. Why do you think there was nothing wrong with the story of Pokemon SM?

>>377219058
Speaking of which why do trade evolutions still exist? They're just a pain and no one likes them

>>377219076
Yeah, why the fuck did they gate off majority of them to bp rewards? Normies never do that stuff, seems like theyre trying to phase it out

Say all that you want but the truth is that Pokémon is the most consistent rpg franchise nowadays.

>>377219159
BW1 just had an awkward start with your rivals challenging you with dull teams over and over and over. Once you're at the second gym things are a lot better.

SM is pretty obnoxious on the first island but things get better from there, at least a bit. Its a shame that you're stuck with a garbage bottom screen map showing your objective the whole time, though.

>>377219076
>Too bad they completely abandoned the idea now that they are bringing new forms to old pokemons
Hi gamefreak employee! Tell us more about how the series will develop.

>>377219332
Because trading is a core aspect of the series. Also I love evolutions that aren't based around level, lets you get stuff earlier ingame. So you're wrong on that one.

>>377219303
Not really. Maybe something like what they did with Zelda in Breath of the Wild could also be applied to Pokemon. Just add a little multiplayer here and there in every "stable" and you are done.

Pokemon mods in BotW when??

>>377219332
tradition
every gen needs it's golem

that said there's worse things like trying to evolve sneasel

AN EVOLUTION THAT REQUIRES AN ITEM WITH A 5% DROP RATE OF A 'MON WITH A 5% SPAWN RATE IS NOT OKAY

>>377219303
>mmo would be the best bet for an exploration based pokemon game
No it wouldn't, how does that make any fucking sense? MMOs haven't been about exploration since fucking vanilla WoW, and the exploration had nothing to do with the online aspect.

You're only reinforcing what I said about Pokemon MMO faggots being completely retarded.

>>377219397
oh I know, that'd be my first choice as well

just saying, GF is not doing that because they're allergic to innovation

>>377219076
They said they wanted to give Z-Moves the spotlight and that they would return to Mega Evolution later. It's like most Yu-Gi-Oh series dropping the summoning method from the last series to shill the new one, but cards from the old types still get made.

>>377212637

It is a children's game, anon. It isn't meant to preoccupy an adult. It is a game you give a child to get them to shut the fuck up for a few hours.

The cartoon animals and main characters being children should have been your first clue.

>>377219092
Villians trying to be serius about their le ebin world domination is stupid
SM is better

>>377217862
Not him, but every pokemon only has like four moves and no passives. Just as a turn based game there isn't tactical decision making besides "hit him with his weakness".

>>377219352
Because they're giving stones out as tournament rewards.

Serious question: Do you guys actually battle with Pokemon online? I feel like a lot of people on /v/ probably just bother with the single player and drop the game.

>>377219390
>youre wrong because I like it
Not an arguement, trade evolutions are retarded and need to be removed

>>377219459
its kinda hilarious that they turned several z-moves into pseudo-megas though
conversion is a good example

>>377219485
Im talking about SM

>>377219531
lol no, learn to play

Red and Silver had the same "roadblocks" you're talking about in B/W

>oh first you need to get a bicycle or somethin
>oh first you need to go to the meusuem
>oh first you need to get HM## and move this boulder
>oh first you need to bring me a momento from this cave
>oh first you need to grab a flute and wake up a snorlax

>>377218973
I think he means alternative routes with the circle argument, previous regions were also linear as fuck but they didn't looked linear like Unova did, while Unova looks fucking beautiful i won't deny the circle shape makes me less excited about exploring the region, it breaks the immersion

>>377219509
pokemon has had abilities since then 3 mate
and while some other turn based jrpg's have more options per character, they have drastically less characters

>>377219517
Well, you're wrong with saying nobody likes it, because I like it. That's why you don't make sweeping statements like that.
>>377219517
>trade evolutions are retarded and need to be removed
Good luck with that. Also explain how trade evolutions are retarded in a series with trading as a key feature.

>>377219516
I just wait for them to be released through mystery gift.

>>377219563
Conversion-Z is essentially mega-porygon mate

>>377219516
I don't, the online is cancer anyways, you can just quit out of ranked matches and not lose rating if youre losing. If youre autistic enough to care about """"competitive"""" pokemon, you use showdown.

>>377219058
I could trade with myself if I bought another copy of the game and kill the point of trading

>>377212637
90's rpgs

>>377219453
>a fully 3D environment
>innovation

Please fuck off

>>377219390
>BW1 just had an awkward start with your rivals challenging you with dull teams over and over and over.

...The "rivals challenging you with dull teams over and over" is a bit nitpicky, but I'll agree that the first bit of gameplay until after the second gym was almost nothing but a whole lot of slugfests against normal type Pokes. BW1 is my favorite Pokemon, but I am not going to defend how obnoxious grinding for the first gym is.


>SM is pretty obnoxious on the first island but things get better from there

"Better"? Hardly. There's still way too many railroads for my liking, the cutscenes still take too long, and any time spent on Lillie or the Aether subplot is completely pointless.

ADD
AFTER MUH ADD
-MUH ADD
-MUH ADD
-MUH ADD
-MUH ADD
- MUH ADD

REEEEE WHY DO I HAVE TO READ LET ME PRESS MY A TO WIN????

>>377219671
Actually, you do lose ranked if you disconnect

>>377219710
yeh its much better to just stick to the endless route 1 with a bird, a rodent and maybe a bug
that's true innovation right there

>>377219651
except you need an entire turn and die with almost nothing

>>377219687
Exactly, but then you'd be buying another copy.

The point is one save file isn't a matter of being behind the times, it's an intentional design.

>>377219516
Does anyone on /v/ play multiplayer games?

How long were the tutorials in the new Zelda?

>Spoil that Aether was the real evil group in the OPENING CUTSCENE
>Team Skull are just a bunch of rundown shitty thieves that immediately get shafted and contribute nothing


Fuck you.

>>377219748
>The "rivals challenging you with dull teams over and over" is a bit nitpicky
I just did a BW1 Nuzlocke earlier in the year, and it definitely isnt a nitpick. You are challenged by those fucks multiple times with barely any variation in their teams (keep in mind their teams are quite similar to each other in terms of composition already), and by the end of the game they've each only gotten a 4 pokemon team together.

N was the only decent rival in that game, your friends are just a slog to get through with horrendous battle music. I love BW1 but I'm not going to pretend this isn't an issue.

I was willing to forgive the game for the cutscenes so long as the starters were good, but the final evolutions were total shit.

>>377219615
Because its clunky, you have to trade and then trade back if you want your alalazam. Typically when you "trade" something your exchanging something of yours for theirs and thats the end of it. Trade evos are a chore.

Pokemon has had the same shit gameplay since the games were invented. It's been 20 years of the same game, it has to be living purely off of nostalgia

>>377219768
I didn't say it's better or worse you fucking literal retard, I said it's not "innovation." Jesus christ it's like it's your first day on /v/ and you're just parroting as many buzzwords as you can.

COOL CAT

>>377219781
I understand the why of it, but they could always put in some preventative measure to keep you from trading to yourself on the same cart

>>377219792
I'm fairly certain I could beat anyone in this thread at Pokemon. I'd be happy to fire up Sun to see if people like:
>>377219671
would step up to the plate.

>>377219576
by "natural blocks" people are referring to NPCs blocking your path for no good reason other than forcing you to do tasks beforehand, like the two NPCs in the first gym towns on each game that force you to finish the gym if you want to continue your adventure, its not related to the main story and has no impact on it whatsoever

>>377219769
I know about the mechanical differences, both the good and the bad, but you have to admit the intention behind it is fairly similar to a mega
same with extreme evoboost

>>377219615
Trade evolutions were a way to get you to buy a Game Link

>>377219839
>caring about the plot of a pokemon game

>>377219809
BotW really doesn't have the usual hand-holdy tutorial at all, only about ten info screens telling you about the controls

>>377219874
changing nothing is the direct equivalent of changing a shitload of things, they're both equal in every possible way

>zero images
>211 posts

this is an imageboard, not a forum

>>377219781
multiple save files doesn't hinder trading. If you have two files, they wouldn't be able to interact with each other, besides pokebank, which does activate trade evolutions. The only benefit to multiple save files in regard to collecting Pokemon is getting more than one legendary, which can be done right now by storing a legend in the bank, starting a new game and getting another later

>>377219962
Pokemon itself was a way to get you to buy a Game Link, dude.

>>377219929
Doubt it, im a smogon fag with an unoriginal meta team

>>377219970
>20 years of shitty nonplots have made people not even expect the bare minimum

sasuga anon

>>377220004
Post an image then, your majesty.

>>377219516
I play Free Battles with whatever dumb gimmick mons or six of my favorites I feel like playing with.

But when it comes to the games I prefer, I base it on how much I enjoy the main adventure.

>>377220004
Image uploads are broken.

XY was an awful game and I dropped it halfway.

ORAS was awful from what I heard, and SM wasn't very different.

Sadly, those games all sold well so the franchise is basically kill at this point.

>>377220065
the entire way team Skull was designed made it extremely obvious they were never going to be the main villains

>>377220004
If we coud post images and make new threads this shitty bait trhead would be dead by now

>>377220123
ORAS was way better than XY, imo. People rag on it for not having the Battle Frontier (which is fair, imo), but the content in the game is fantastic and there's more to do than in Kalos.

>>377212637
You're playing a jrpg and this bothers you? Game must be pretty good if that's your main complaint.

>>377220191
it did have a fairly annoying donut steel character

>>377220004
>tfw newfags don't even know about textboards
oh how the mighty have fallen

>>377220138
Team skull is pretty much anime team rocket tier useless even in game.

>>377220123
>awful from what I heard
np anon, you wasn´t going to play the games anyways so you can believe whatever you want

>>377220138
Except I'd rather they be occasional roadblocks Team Rocket style than have that horrendously unfinished Aether subplot instead.

>>377220123
>>377220191
one thing i defend about ORAS are the redesigns, god damn they did a good job with the evil teams and gym leaders

>>377220273
>you guys should use reddit!

Nah fuck off m8

>>377220245
Who, Zinnia? The character who was fucking wrong and failed at her task?

>the most geniune video game discussion I've seen on /v/ in years, if not of all time
>has a dedicated shitposting board all to itself

?????

>>377220065
Speaking of nonplots, personally, I think Pokemon should stick with nonplots and if you want you can just do the Gyms/Trials/whatever with the occasional rival battle, but then have lots of optional story events where you would put all the typical evil team and box legend plots, plus more isolated events focused on world building and character development. Shit like the Looker Bureau quest in XY's postgame or the Trial Captain battles on Akala in SM, but more fleshed out and plentiful.

>>377220297
>they did a good job with the evil teams

FUCK YOU.

I'll admit, Archie and maybe Tabitha definitely could've used a redesign, but what we got was just completely stupid, especially with turning Maxie into a nerd and Courtney into a Rei Clone.

>>377215469
more like
>lets see what pokemon I can catch first
>yungoos, alolan rattata, and wingull on every early-game route
>gumshoos, alolan raticate, and pelipper on every mid-game & late-game route

>>377220340
>redditspacing
nice try

>>377220357
You know /vp/ was created because people on /v/ were gorespamming Pokemon Generals, right? /vp/ was created because of /v/ couldn't stand to have threads about video games.

>>377220357
Have you ever been to /vp/ anon? Seriously go browse a few threads and come back

>>377220351
she was right though

>>377220281
yeh but that was the entire point
this wasn't some international crime syndicate or pseudo-religious cult or something along those lines

it was a bunch of rejects banding together trying to act tough. Unless it involved the ol' cliché plot of "idiots messed with something WAY out of the league" they were never going to be credible endgame villains

they are however adorable and one of the best teams in the entire series

>>377220374
The next Pokemon game will be open world

If I wanted to play SoulSilver, but I also wanted to get the three legendary birds on it, how would I need to go about it?

>>377220415
She was right about there being other dimensions but she was wrong about how to go about protecting that dimension. If you hadn't been there she would have been fucked and doomed the planet.

>>377212637
It's not the game's fault you have ADD, you fucking faggot.

>>377220357
/vp/ exists to contain the fandom

>>377220407
>nice try
niceredditspacingfaggot

>>377220374
or maybe make a few colliseum style games on the big consoles that include a more story driven experience and keep the handheld games for the more traditional gameplay

>>377220434
Transfer from Pal Park with Fire Red/Leaf Green

>>377220434
Get all of the badges.

>>377218973
Oh yeah i can explore the other half of Unova? You mean the 4 routes there? Awesome!
How about the rest? Oh i can go to the Battle Subway? That's it, how great!

Heart gold/soul silver are objectively the best pokemon games

>>377220550
The fact that Unova has so much postgame content makes your post kind of retarded.

>>377220474
say it all, if it wasn´t for her the other planet would have died

>try to change up the Gym Leader progression benchmark by turning it into minigames against wild boss Pokemon with the occasional Gym battle

>completely give up midway and end up giving out half the Z-Moves as free items or "designated exploration area" end goals while still keeping almost all the assets in the game.

>>377220425
Pokemon doesn't need to be any more open than it always was.
The overworld in XY and SM are fucking garbage though, by far worst world maps out of any of the games. I hope they fix their shit while also not going full retard with the open world shit

>>377220297
I really like most of the ORAS redesigns, but I don't like Archie's outfit.

>>377220434
Zapdos shows up outside the Power Plant, Articuno in Seafom Islands like the Kanto games, and Moltres is in Mt. Silver. That's all not until the very last stretch of the game, though.

>>377212637
It seems like over 13 million people who bought it didn't mind it.

>>377220561
Trinity of perfection:

>Emerald
>Platinum
>BW2

HGSS would be up there but it has that shitty level curve and the copied battle frontier from platinum.

No one has posted a single picture in this thread

>>377220383
They looked bland as fuck before that, hell i couldn't even tell Tabitha apart from the other grunts before they got redesigned, fucking pale ginger pirates, seriously? Team Magma now looks like an anime club full of nerds and i love it because it creates a great contrast with Aqua, Courtney even looks like the token girl that gets beat orbited

>>377220598
Oh you mean that nonsense transfer shit to get the black city to go thru battle subway 2?

>>377220671
The image servers are down, you fucking retard. If they weren't, this would've been a waifu thread in a heartbeat.

>>377220671
MAYBE BECAUSE WE FUCKING CAN'T

>>377220671
I miss when that was the norm

>>377220598
>4 routes with fucking nothing outside Lacunosa Town and related forest, and the most disappointing location in the game, Village Bridge
>Battle Subway
>a few legendaries
Amazing.

>>377218728
There was an elite four. post game is just a glorified fetchquest and a lame battle facility

>>377220653
Delete this! SM are supposed to be the downfall of the Pokemon series!

>>377220627
fucking pimp shit my nigger, glad to hear it omg that just got me so fucking hype as a mother fucker holy shit

i need one of these fucking craigslist faggots with a DS to hit me back, 'cause I'm trying to pick that shit up 2NITE

I played Silver like a mo'fuk back in the day, don't recall the legendaries being there in Kanto when I did my revisit and killed Red and all that though..

>>377220661
talking about BW2
why the hell didn't the challenge mode thing stick around
it was fun for people who actually wanted it

>>377220671
Is /v/ extra retared today or what? Case in point, posts like this:
>>377220701

>>377220703
This is literally why the thread has discussion no best girl faggotry

>>377220561
Too bad they didn't unfucked the shitty levels and mon placement, it really killed postgame for me

>>377218738
>My only gripe with the story was how they made Granite Cave an optional dungeon and how they give you a free legendary half way through it.
same

The worst part of SM is HEY YOU CAN'T GO THIS WAY YET MY SLOWPOKE WANTS TO SNIFF EVERY ASS IN THE AREA FIRST. Made the game feel closed off and super linear, where in every other game you got an ability to get over the blocked paths.

>>377220729
>PWT
>Tree/Tower
>Relic Castle
>Nature Preserve
>legendary quests
>dating questline
>Pokestar Studios

What the fuck, did you people even play BW2?

I agree with this thread however SM contained some of the best tracks I've heard from this series in a long time

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dql0NhQBJ98 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rR3gP9kKDgQ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YzsbBmBDIT0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vLHdmVh2daU

>>377220703
>>377220774
Clearly we need a video game textboard

>>377220858
>Newfags are so fucking new that they don't remember textboards
I want off this ride.

>>377220808
That's been in the series since the old man blocked your path in Red and Blue.

And the games stopped using the traditional map system after Platinum. 5, 6 and 7 all use a theme park design to their maps.

>>377220817
The whole discussion was about SM vs BW1, retard.

People would've mentioned BW2 things if people were talking about fucking BW2.

>>377220902
Are you one of those newfags who will find any excuse to pretend to be old? I didn't even specified if i knew about their existence or not, calm your fucking autism

>>377220686
They already had a subtle beta/alpha subtext in RSE. They could've just made Archie a nigger while treating Magma with a gentler hand a la HGSS's Team Rocket. They didn't need to go over-the-top by making Maxie a nerd and Tabitha a fatass.

And for fuck's sake, why the hell did they have to make Courtney a Rei Clone?! I'm fine with them giving her more screentime, given how I liked Pokespe Courtney, but now it just feels like fetish pandering by turning her into a Rei Clone. Heck, all the redesigns feel like fetish pandering.

>>377220808
Looks like someone didn't play a game released after Gen 4.

>>377220598
>le only postgame matter meme

>>377220774
Theres no need for discussion anyways, everyone knows May is best girl

>>377220598
BW1 isn't any better about its postgame than DP. BW2's pretty packed though.

>>377220817
The argument has been about BW1.

>>377218738
I didn't really mind Granite being optional because it was at least still there, but they totally gutted the New Mauvile dungeon. The worst part is it does have a great visual overhaul and you can see where there may have been passages to elsewhere, but for one reason or another they cut it down to just one room.

I liked that they made Scorched Slab an actual dungeon though.

>>377220914
in R/B you can skip half the gyms and do them in any order you want

>>377220703
>people had to discuss the games while they couldn't post cropped hentai images about their waifus on an image board
Really makes you think huh?

>>377220918
Except your post is retarded because BW2 gave us the best postgame in the series after BW1's failings, and then Gen 6 and now Gen 7 have gone fucking backwards. So no, go eat a dick for saying its all BW1's fault. BW1 was the only game from Emerald to BW2 to have a lacking postgame. And going off the post ORAS interview and the success of SM, we are never getting that level of quality again.

Why did people hate BW1's lack of previous-gen Pokemon in the maingame? Doesn't Gen 5 still boast the biggest ratio of competitively viable Pokes since the first gen?

>>377220954
You are acting like Rei invented that character archetype, and pokespe aside Courtney was very forgettable, even more than Mars

>>377221018
You can do the same in gen 2 and to a lesser extent gen 3. You can't do it anymore though.

>>377220954
Could you stop saying Rei Clone over and over? You sound like an upset fanboy.

>>377220830
This, Minako Adachi is a god.

I admit that SM went a little overboard with the cutscenes, but honestly last gen games weren't much better. I played Y one year after X and it was a nightmare having to go through that story again.

>>377221081
to be fair though, the "do the gyms in any order" thing is one of the reasons why the gen 2 level curve was completely FUBAR

BWfags in full damage control. Sorry your game had shit mons, shit animations and a shit world.

>>377221120
XY are by far the worst pokemon games ever made

this cutscene shit is killing the game for me.

downed 4-5 totem pokemon and I don't know...game's just not fun

>>377221067
>You are acting like Rei invented that character archetype

If she didn't invent it, she sure as hell caused its proliferation. Same with Asuka and tsundere.

>and pokespe aside Courtney was very forgettable

Because Courtney never had any screentime in RSE. Heck, she's completely absent from Emerald while Aqua still got both their admins to fight you at some point.

>>377221081
Gen 2 only has that for gyms 5-7 and that is also the point where the game falls apart in terms of proper scaling.

>>377221065
A lot of people like having their old favorites, and people who don't actually play the games anymore had a reactionary response of "they're trying to make it so my childhood never happened" or some shit like that and drummed up bad press.

>>377221051
>discussion is about BW1
>NUH-UH BW2 A BEST HUUUUUHHHH
>but we are talking about BW1, not 2
>NO FUCK YOU BW2 WAAH WAAH WAH
What the fuck are you doing?

Games from Emerald to BW2 have no place in this discussion because it was about fucking BW1. Period. It and how it compared to SM.

Nobody mentioned the other games until you started crying.

>>377215818
You realize remnants of the areas exist in the game and were actually discovered not too long ago, right?

>>377221228
I would have minded it a whole lot less if they hadn't included a lot of blatant gen 1 copies like no-geodude and not-zubat

the actual original 'mons in gen 5 are all awesome

>>377221228
>people who don't actually play the games anymore had a reactionary response of "they're trying to make it so my childhood never happened" or some shit like that

They react like that to fucking BW1, but not to stuff like the latest Fire Emblems?!

For Christ's sake, I've never gotten the vibe that BW1 ever had any disrespect towards its history.

>>377215921
>At least they toned it down in SM
By making the most obnoxious and intrusive story yet?

>>377221250
Hey retard, see:
>>377218232
>But just remember, everything bad we got now, was mostly because BW failed and faggots bought XY.
This is the statement I was addressing. Quit having an autism attack because I pointed out that BW2 added postgame content then things went downhill for XY.

>>377212637
Cutscenes are good, burgerfag. You literally never played a real JRPG before.

>>377221328
Fire Emblem wasn't a big cultural thing with a lot of people who liked it just because it was big like Pokemon was.

>>377221156
>>377221206
Yeah that's true.

>>377221412
Not every JRPG is Persona dumbass.

Gens from best to worst:
2
7
1
3
4
5

>>377221328
Genwunners are a special kind of retarded

>>377221328
Nobody played the old Fire Emblem games beyond diehard fans.

>>377221418
>Fire Emblem wasn't a big cultural thing with a lot of people who liked it just because it was big like Pokemon was.
Grammar?

>>377221484
5
3
2
4
1
6
7

Gen 5 was the last time I had fun with a pokemon game, they really did a good job with actually presenting it like something new with having it all new mons, the world was big and interesting, and the story was actually well done and not completely fucking tedious
XY was completely unfun, I honestly still have not completed Y because it's so fucking boring. And I pre-ordered that shit. That was the first time I ever regretted buying a pokemon game.
At least I actually finished Moon, but the game was so goddamn tedious and the postgame content was either nonexistant or, again, boring and tedious.
I easily put AT LEAST 150 hours into every mainline game for the first five gens but since then the magic has just been gone. I don't think I'll be able to get into a pokemon game like I used to ever again.

>>377221484
>5
>worst gen
>while B2W2 were the best games BY FAR

312 replies without a single image? The fuck?

>>377221484
worst shit taste i have seen

>gens worth playing
1
1r
2
2r

unskippable cutscenes were not excusable 20 years ago and they're definitely not excusable now
if i want a "riveting story" then i'm not going to play a fucking pokemon game in the first place

>>377221484
Gen 2 fags are just the worst

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>>377221560
I still can't believe Iris is the best champion in the entire pokemon series

it somehow feels wrong

>>377221485
I know, which is why I can't understand why the latest Pokemon games are trying to pander to them.

For fuck's sake, if Genwunners really are as mad as everyone says they are, then no matter how much effort you put into making your big gold statues of Mewtwo and Charizard, people are still not going to buy it as long as they aren't Game Boy Color games with only Gen 1 Pokemon available!

fucking KEK when did B2/W2 become the boogeyman? why do you cucks hate GOOD?

>>377221065
because most gen 5 designs where a mistake
>elemental monkeys
>trash
>palpitoad line
>ferroseed line
>Heatmor

>Hating on Pokey Mysterio
Someone's looking to get ROYAL'D

>>377221536
>>377221560
In terms of mon design its the worst by far

Pokemon is shit as a single player game. Gen VI perfected multiplayer, and VII was still good despite being a step down.

>>377221662
>that sash Haxorus
Gotta say that one caught me off guard.

>>377221662
cynthia is the best champion. iris was one of the few blemishes in B2/W2, the dumb monkey

>>377221662
He posted an image...

HE POSTED AN IMAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>377221662
Kukui is better :^)
And you know it.

>>377221585
image server is die

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>>377221662
Her team is fucking solid, too.

>>377221707
Dont forget martial arts bert and ernie

>>377221738
have you tried her challenge mode team?

Flying gem Acrobatics on an Archeops is just evil

>>377221484
Shit taste

>>377212637
Gamefreak did, because they actually believe people play Pokemon for the story. I wouldn't mind the crazy amount of cutscenes if the story was actually GOOD, but it's just a bunch of wasted potential and a hamfisted girl who's oh so important, but doesn't capture even one pokemon in the entire game.
>DUDE MASALADAS LMAO
>DUDE GET IN DA BAG xD
>DUDE HAPPY LITTLE RETARD DANCE LOL
>DUDE MUH DUMMY BROS AND SIS' xD
>DUDE WOO

>>377221476
Go play any other story-driven JRPG, retarded burger.

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Lets talk about the best 'mon

>>377221707
FUCK YOU FERROTHORN IS AWESOME

>>377221737
Competetive fags are the absolute fucking worst

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>>377221662
>Iris brought images back
Best champion confirmed

>>377221560
>weader wars
>need to reach level 100 to play online
>medals replace ribbons
>worst selling games
unovabortions please die

>>377221775
>weavile used ice punch/low kick

I bought Moon at launch.

So far I have fifteen hours logged.

It's not just the volume of tedious cutscenes, the pacing of the whole fucking game is obnoxiously slow. Nothing ever happens and you're constantly congratulated for it.

>>377221916
the Tapus are bigger cancer than weather wars ever were
>hey, lemme invalidate several entire playstyles just by switching in

>>377212637
Honestly, on my first playthrough I didn't think it was too bad. When I played through Moon after beating Sun, they were goddamn unbearable.

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>>377221796
they are so forgettable

>>377216957
well the game is easy as fuck, you need to add some kind of challenge to make it a little more fun.

Opinions on how every single NPC team in Gens 5 and up are basically

>50/50/50/50/50/52

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Nebby get in the fucking bag

>>377220734
All of that shit could've been done on one island. UBs were relegated to a shitty sidequest. Kek.

>>377222013
What's their comp viability compared to the Hitmons, anyways?

>>377222041
The UB sidequest was great, though.