>game has a gender slider with more than two options

>>377191676
Disgusting but name 4 games that do this

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>game has a sexuality slider with over 20 ticks on it

>Haha we love science we're such geeks and nerds lol
>What's that? That's not science, that's just sexist/racist/whatever -ist is popular this week
>REAL science is about how I feel

You have no idea how happy I am that upper levels of bio/chem/calc classes chews these fucktards up and spits them out, and after like three years of this shit I'm free

>Gender slider
but why???

>>377191909
Silent Storm has a gender slider in its character creation that affects how masculine or feminine your character looks.

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>>377191676
Buzzkill context for people who haven't played Strafe; it's simply a voice selector.

>>377192084
gender is mental, sex is physical

>>377191676
>ENGLISH
>stars and stripes

Why not? There are definitely more than two genders, and it's not like this idea has been a new thing either considering certain cultures like the Samoans or even looking at the origins of the term gender itself. There are still two biological sexes though.

>>377192037
None of that has anything to do with science though. Sounds more like you have become a victim of scientism.

>>377192140
why to put gender instead of voice? that's a stupid decision.

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>>377191676
>gender slider has only one axis
How black and white thinking, I'm almost getting triggered here

>>377192257
But why to put it on a game? is the game focused on genders? if not, then there is no fucking purpose.

>>377192289
What's the problem bongcuck :^)

>>377191909
Saints Row.
But then again, it's satire anyways

>>377192302
The devs are simply memeing. Considering the game has a lot of 90s nostalgia shit in it and the devs clearly spent more time working on the presentation values than the actual gameplay, I wouldn't put it past them.

>>377192439
If the game has a social element to it at all, it very much makes sense to have it in some way shape or form.

>>377192439
It's just a voice selector.

>>377192579

>social

Only matters for sexual acts. And 98% of games don't have sex.

>>377192579
So basically the player have to scream at the entire world the MC gender identity? the player have to tell a specific sexual taste to every single NPC he meets?

fucking why? if it is to get into a romantic relationship with then NPC just remove the straight only option and let the entire gender shit for the player to roleplay for themselves not as a meaningless game mechanic.

>>377192768
Not at all. You don't take into account how characters would interact with this person and how this person would interact with others.

>>377193014
No, this has nothing to do with hamhanded writing. Just little subtle quirks based off of it that show rather than the character just telling.

>>377193225
>You don't take into account how characters would interact with this person and how this person would interact with others.

Unless you're bumping uglies, that "interaction" has nothing to do with gender nor sex (the adjective)

>>377191676
but why?

>>377193225
gender is a fancy way to say sexual taste, the final objetive of all this gender thing is to let the others know what you wanna fuck or be fucked by.

>>377192257
Schizophrenia is also mental. Your point?

>>377192257
>tumblr arbitrarily made a distinction between the two so now we all have to abide by it
Ok

>>377193487
The distinction is older than Tumblr and older than the internet.

>>377193304
So then why to put gender and not a full character customization? unless the main focus of the personality of the character is that it go and say: "hi I'm anon I'm pansexual, not that a NPC like you will give a fuck about it nor even understand what the fuck pansexual even means, but I will let you know anyways"

>>377193754
Prove it.
I'm older than the Internet, and gender was always synonymous with physical sex my entire life until literally 5 years ago.

>>377194059
>1945 Amer. Jrnl. Psychol. 58 228 In the grade-school years, too, gender (which is the socialized obverse of sex) is a fixed line of demarkation, the qualifying terms being ‘feminine’ and ‘masculine’.
>the socialized obverse of sex
This is from the 40s so it's still limited to 2 categories but it's social things surrounding it and not just the biological ones.

http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/77468

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>>377191676
>more than two options
>pic clearly has two options

>>377194059
Anon, there were trannies in ancient Greece and Rome. Some ancient gods were transgender or hermaphrodites.

>>377194059
The topic was heavily suppressed until recently, but it's always been there. Trannies have always existed.

>>377193415
Not an argument.

>>377192515
I don't remember Saints Row having more than 2 genders

>>377196398
Used to be a slider in earlier games

>>377196212
>revisionist history

>>377195191
Not the same, transgender has social connotations in our culture it did not in theirs.

>>377196693
Yeah, by you and all the monocle-popping posh fucks who wanted to cover up anything that didn't jibe with their sensibilities.

Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
That's how facts and reality work, it's there regardless of your dumbass ideologies.

>>377194059
They can't anon, they're too young to understand shit.

>>377196826
Prove it.

>>377196860
I proved it though. See >>377194532

>>377194532
>>377196972
Here's more proof for you, not sure it supports your message though.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

>>377196969
Literally anything I provide will be labelled fake and liberal propaganda unless it lines up exactly with what you already believe. Why the fuck should I give you the time of day?

Research it yourself, fuckwad.

>>377197129
Burden of truth, anon. Saying I'll call it fake doesn't just free you from the burden of truth. Make sure your source is good, though.

>>377191676
>people who think "gender" has any meaning outside of gendered words found in many languages
How do you even define it outside of that context?
Gender corresponds to gendered speech, you can find it in Spanish, English, German etc.
The words were used to describe things as masculine, feminine, non-gendered, or biologically male or female.
Of course it's binary, everyone is born male or female, those who aren't are afflicted with an uncommon and unfortunate disorder.

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>>377197206
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history

And before you say >Wikipedia, look at the citations, read what you can.
That's about the quickest way I can point someone in something resembling the right direction, because I'm not about to write a whole thesis on historical transgenderism for some whoever on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

>>377197125
John Money was disgusting pedophile and should not be given any credence.
I won't dismiss him just because he inspected the genitals of young children, but what he published was non-scientific and flawed.

>>377197543
He was one of the first to have your ideas, anon.

This is the second thread I've seen this week with the exact same arguments about genders. I'm just going to give the shitposters the benefit of the doubt though and assume nobody is fucking stupid enough to launch a concentrated effort to change the way people think of genders on /v/ of all places.

>>377197605
May be talking to the wrong person.

Gender(function of language) and sex(biological) are two different things, but gender is easily defined as a tool in language that we refer to things as masculine or feminine, male or female.

The gendered language we use always corresponds to the (apparent)biological sex of the person we are referring to.
That's the only distinction to be made between the two.


I challenge someone to define gender any other way outside of the function of language.

>>377197457
Half of these sources are embarrassing, but the other half are research papers so I won't complain. I'm honestly just surprised that someone gave any evidence in this kind of thread.

>>377197880
Ah, I thought I was talking to a "gender is a social construct" memer, and was just posting the first guy to actually say that.

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>>377193415
>No schizophrenia slider

>>377193415
>>377198042
What games involve the protagonist dealing with Schizophrenia? I can only think of VtM:B off the top of my head.

>>377197457
genuinely curious do trannies (i.e. those that take estrogen/surgically alter themselves, not just cross dressers) actually believe it makes them female despite having developed physically as a male and not being able to reproduce?

>>377198250
It gets them as close as we can currently get, and their bodies effectively consider the switch flipped, from what I can tell.

But yes, generally they do believe that transitioning makes them the gender they intend to be.

>>377198382
Then why do people want trans to be its own gender? Wouldn't they rather be identified as just male or female, not trans-male etc.? I'd be fine pretending that it was true if it makes them happy.

>>377198920
>Then why do people want trans to be its own gender?
Most don't, but it's easier to pretend the whole group is made of the dumbest people in it, so that it is easier to spew memes at it.

>>377199038
Maybe if the dumbest people and meme-trans would shut the fuck up, I could see actual trans people as humans.

>>377199137
That's just how people work. Gotta ignore the dumbest ones to see normal people as just people.

>>377199193
I don't actually see the normal ones at all, but they'd probably be happy about that, so all's well that ends well.

>>377197129
Might as well not say anything and fap to chinese cartoons.

>>377199137
yeah duude, many people are stupid, so we should treat literally everyone like shit xD

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>>377199247
That's just it, if you met them on the street you wouldn't give it a second thought. And that's how it should be; they're just trying to get along in the world like you are.
Live and let live, y'know?

>>377199409
>reading comprehension

>>377199478
Exactly. As long as I'm not going to go to fuck some girl and she has a dick, it's all good. I just want the "activists" to fuck off.

>>377191676
wtf is that disgusting curved image eww

>>377191676
>more than 1 gender option

>>377198130
No game can accurately portray schizophrenia.

>>377199583
You're a retard if you think correctly identifying the problems with your shitty logic is bad reading comprehension.

Replace "trans" with anything else and your tard logic obviously stands out as fucking retarded
>maybe if people who talk on tv weren't stupid, I would treat people IRL decently xD

In before tranny accusations because you have no arguments to defend your idiotic ideas and have to pretend you are doing it for any other reason than just the fact that you're an immoral cunt.

>>377199838
>strawmanning this hard
I never said anything was wrong with trans people, just that they get a bad reputation from every public example being an attention whore.

>>377193754
But it's just as bullshit. Gender differing from sex is not a real thing. Deep down every Apache Attack Helicopter knows he's just a poofter male, they're just fooling themselves.

>Made a game
>Added gender slider
>Actual gender is still a boolean
they didn't even notice

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>>377192302
to trigger you. successfully :^)

>>377191676
What's even the point of having gender in a game where it isn't two choices? Would it even change anything?

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>the gender selector isn't a clear tube filled with a white, creamy fluid

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>>377191676

>>377191676
>Male
>Female
>Futa
Nothing wrong with this.

>>377191676
>Game has gender slider
>only two options

topkek

>>377202285
No reason to have the male if you're having futa.

>>377199583
>As long as I'm not going to go to fuck some girl and she has a dick, it's all good.

>Reducing a person to their genitalia
Yah nah fuck you
Probably some piece of shit who goes around to bars to get as many drunk one-night-stands to brag to all your friends about.
Fucking garbage pussy chaser.

>>377202852
That's a lot of projection, anon.

>it's another tranny thread.
no.

>>377202852
Not an argument

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>>377191676
>mfw I put it in the middle

>>377200738
> incorrect appraisal of strawman
It only follows as you have no idea when to blurt out > reading comprehension

>>377202387
obviously you have males for the futas to sodomize

>>377205160
Your example is shit, because people who talk on TV aren't the only people you ever hear talking, you get other examples every day. I've never heard from any trans people who aren't batshit crazy.

>>377202387
What kind of a subhuman retard would keep women instead of men when you have futa?

>>377191676
All it does is change the pitch of the character's voice and it's there ironically.

>>377202852
>it's fine to not like guys
>it's fine to not like girls
>it's somehow not okay to not like "girls" with dicks

>>377205302
>I've never heard from any trans people who aren't batshit crazy.
because the ones that aren't batshit crazy are quiet and don't make a big deal out of themselves

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>>377205318
>>377205258

>>377205385
My original point was that the only reason trans people are disliked is because the only ones we hear from are the crazy ones. I'm glad you agree.

>>377199137
Maybe if the worst whites weren't trailer trash incest babies
Maybe if the worst blacks weren't violent criminals
Maybe if the worst asians weren't dog eating psychopaths
Maybe if the worst hispanics weren't lazy border jumpers
Maybe if the worst dog didn't bite people
Maybe if the worst pizza didn't taste terrible
Maybe the worst poster in this thread wasn't (you)
Do you see where I'm going with this?

>>377205529
See
>>377205302
You see more good examples than bad of all those groups, anon.

>>377191909
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 3
Bloodborne

>>377198130
>>377199773
There is Chaos;Head.

>>377195191
They still adhered to the gender binary though.

>>377192294
>There are definitely more than two genders
Unless you have Turner/Klinefelter Syndrome or you're a Samoan or Hijra nobody in the real world is going to take your third gender identity seriously.

>>377192294
>there are definitely more than two genders

>>377191676
I'm more concerned about Portuguese having the Brasil flag and English having the USA flag.

>>377196481
No.

Saints Row 1 only had male characters.
Saints Row 2 had male and female gender. The "slider" just affected your frame; how large your tits were, how broad your shoulders were.
Saints Row 3 and 4 had male and female with a fat/muscle slider for each. Male characters have dick slider, female sex appeal slider.

Confirmed for tumblrina who never played SR but jizzes at the thought of gender sliders.

Start game with by selecting chromosomes which determines base appearance, then you can fuck with hormone levels

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>>377192294
>There are definitely more than two genders
what even is a gender anymore

>>377202225
>no oppai loli option
its shit

>>377206415
>the gender slider just affects your frame
Yeah? What else would a gender slider do? That's what it does in Dark Souls. The one in OP's pic just changes the pitch of the player characters voice.

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>>377191676
>game has gender slider ranging from male to female
>literally all but full-blown female are some stages of trap

>this whole thread
>this whole generation of people
I miss the 90s. You fucking kids are the death of everything good in the world.

>>377198130
Fallout:NV with that perk that makes the game weird, Wild wasteland I think it was called

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>>377207787
you know this is because they are brainwashed by liberal universities right?

>>377207796
Schizophrenia doesn't make you see random pop culture references.

>>377207787
>>377207873
>>377192084
>>377191909
literally freaking out over a fucking voice slider lmao get a grip /pol/

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>>377208165
what voice slider, Im talking about society, people study fucking gender science at my university instead of doing something productive

>>377208474
and how many people do gender studies at university? Compared to the entire student body?

>>377207682
>call it a tit size slider
This is demeaning to women!

>call it a gender slider
This is so progressive!

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>>377192294

>There are more than two genders

Troll or not you reminded me there are people who actually think this is true, in other words fuck you

>>377209112
>le transmisogynist gay
How does it feel being so pathetic that you think sucking up to conservashits makes you a good person?

>All of the misinformation ITT
The number of genders there are depends wholly on your definition of the term since it is an abstraction not directly related to reality. In terms of brain sex there are literally millions of possible combinations with varying degrees of masculinity and femininity. What we commonly call male or female are the probability clouds of the average values for men and women, but that's just the average.

http://www.wiringthebrain.com/2016/01/sex-on-brain-tale-of-two-studies.html

People think of gay men and lesbian women as being of their birth gender but that's actually an oversimplification - the brains of gay people are partially shifted toward being like those of the other sex.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2008/06/20/brains-of-gay-people-resemble-those-of-straight-people-of-opposite-sex/

Then you have the transsexuals who are in some way neurologically fucked up and thus feel uncomfortable in a body of their natal sex. Long term exposure to hormones shifts one's brain sex toward the direction of the hormones so they end up being closer to their transitioned sex than to their natal sex as far as their brain goes. That's not the whole story though. Even untransitioned transsexuals respond to pheromones in the same way gay people and people of the "opposite" sex do, even though those who are attracted to their non-natal sex are otherwise mostly neurologically identical to people of their natal sex.

tl;dr brain sex is a spectrum and not only is it a spectrum but it's a multi-dimensional spectrum. Body sex is more dichotomous but even there you have intersexed people and artificially intersexed people i.e. transsexuals exposed to hormones at key points.

>>377209196
he can suck my conservacock bby

>>377191676saints row 2 did this and it let you play as a fat tranny hey I'm not suppose to write up here

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>>377209196

>Turning down good dick because of political leanings

>>377209210
Source for the pheromone claim:
https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article/18/8/1900/285954/Male-to-Female-Transsexuals-Show-Sex-Atypical

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>only 1 gender dimension

>>377191676
It's fine in games set so far into the future that mutations and some kind of alteration are plausible. It'd add to the atmosphere to see all sorts of weird alien shit.

>two trans-furries fucking over a bus bench
>Neo-Scien-Catholics offering free reprogramming sessions to "Help cure your depression and anxiety."
>A tech-junkie wearing a shoulder-mounted system linked to a headset with a 3D camera on the front live streaming his every mundane step to hordes of chat room users who's lives are so mundane it's entertainment to them because they work farming their time out to program for major net companies and never see the light of day
>ad-spores wafting from the sides of buildings causing visions of MICRO-SONY-TENDO brain-chips with mind-control DRM that makes you physically incapable of pirating while providing surreal dream-like visuals, 10-minute films that are rehashes of rehashes that were rehashes of rehashes and cost 50 dollars a viewing, and clothing ads that are just thinly veiled personal attacks on your own style where you hallucinate yourself standing next to the model as they judge you
>a swarm of tech-bees raise up in to sky bleached purple by the setting sun

>>377209570
Thats 2 dimensions.
It's actually more like a transient sphere.

>>377209196
>transmisogynist
Stop

>>377209570
>>377209619
If you base it on brain sex then it's unironically a 10-dimensional structure.

>>377209570
>black people are genderless
Goddamn intolerant left.

>>377192424
>tfw I lived in the same apartment building as her

Still gives me shivers

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>>377192515
Funny thing about Saints Row.
From 2 onwards, female Boss was canonically post-op trans.
I like how it was handled. A couple characters mention it and are just like sure w/e you want boss, and then the game just continues without it being a big deal.

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>>377210132

The devs confirmed that if the Boss is female in 2 she's always been a girl (nevermind how that retcons 1)

Why you lying senpai

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>>377210394
The game itself says otherwise.
Why YOU lying senpai?

>>377210502

Last I checked the game didn't ever claim they were post-op, so why YOU lying huh

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>>377210686
Can't lie with true facts desu

>>377210738

Oh yeah, prove it!

You don't want to be a liar, do you senpai?

>>377210850
I don't need to prove it.
You need to disprove it.

;^)

>>377202225

Some day we small have justice...

>>377192037
Gender is a social construct like race.
Sex is biological, you geek.

>>377195045
/thread

So tired of these pretentious alt-right morons (me myself a conservative myself)

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>>377211193
>gender is a social construct
>like race

>>377211389
Common knowledge, faggot.

>>377211193
No, anon. Race is skin pigmentation.

>>377211654
>>>>>>>>>implying

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>>377211654

freidnaly remmndi tht samur is trasnn

>>377211654
>>377211193
>race is a social construct

That's a pretty strong social construct when it even impacts osteology.

Reminder that racialism is a pseudoscience that doesn't present falsifiable statements.

>>377207536
>what even is a gender anymore
a made up word. Just like every other word in existence.

>>377211884
What the fuck is racialism?

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>>377211654
i wanna have what you are smoking

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>>377191676
>Crosshair color: White

Would be fun If depending on where you put the slider NPCs would straight up call you “a freak of nature“ or a “wimpy looking faggot“

>>377212019
The belief that race is a real thing and not a social construct.

>>377208474
Yea then go back to /pol/ because this is the video game board.

>>377212163
You mean having eyes?

>>377192768
Giving gender traits to characters (male, female, others) helps you identify them as humans. You don't often speak to ambiguous-looking people in real life, and when you do, you want to know if they have benis or not.

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Oak knows.

>>377191676
Isn't that slider just a joke though?

>>377209196

The majority of literal faggots hate trannies though.

>>377208474
>Im talking about society
>In /v/
Do you people even read what you post.

>>377198250
>genuinely curious do trannies (i.e. those that take estrogen/surgically alter themselves, not just cross dressers) actually believe it makes them female despite having developed physically as a male and not being able to reproduce?

I'm a tranny and no. I know I'm male and will always be male, I also know that I'm not a normal girl and will never be one wither. I think of myself as a girl of course, that's what my emotional side tells me I am, but my rational side knows that I'm a trans woman, specifically a male that lives as a girl instead of as a guy

These "trans" HAVE to be at least somewhat woman, with how much they bitch and cry and rely on "feelings" for their arguments. That's what chicks do, feelings are the highest form of authority in their minds. Not anyone elses, of course, just theirs.
I FEEL I'm not quite a woman, like I'm a man..or I'm kind of a man, but I know I don't feel special fitting into traditional women stereotypes, I FEEL I'm more special, so I MUST be. Logic does not come into play, facts do not come into play, all that matters is how they feel. And some "trans" dudes feel this way, and argue this way, they want their feelings to be reality.

Okay, I accept that you FEEL you're a woman. The ONLY way I'm going to entertain that bullshit is if I want to fuck you. If I think you're attractive, I'll play along with your dumbass shit, the same way straight guys play along with straight women they're with, when they bring up chakra or zodiac or other demonstratbly incorrect things.

It should not be a social issue or a political issue, it should be a personal issue. Purely
>why can't I find someone who will entertain my ideas of what womanhood and transgenderism is?
well that's a personal fucking problem. People who don't like you won't date you even if the general society says that it's normal. that thing is your problem now

>>377212092
sauce me up senpai

>>377208474

nobody fucking cares this is the board for video games not bitching about muh society

>>377191676
I just want to dress as a girl and suck dicks, i don't care about gender

>>377211854
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.21006/abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.20983/abstract