What did he mean by this?

>>377185178
I agree.

We know this for a fact after gaben tried to force paid mods down our throat multiple times.

>>377185178
steam is healthy enough for my gaming, without steam i would just be pirating

and i was until i bought the orange box

b-but i thought i was besties with a giant corporation

nintendo's still my friend though, right?

>>377185178

It's true though. Gabe has gotten very problematic for the rest of us.

>>377185178
They're right, none of the gaming companies are our friends.

Monopolies are bad for consumers QED. Especially when you talk about paid mods like >>377185310 Valve will keep reaching until they have real competition to curb them.

>>377185178
wtf i love Polygon now? In all seriousness though I'm impressed by that headline, do you have a pastebin?

>>377185178
They're right for once.
People who play on Steam and think they're above consolefags are the most pathetic and delusional retards.

He means redditers that make the shitty Jesus Gaben pictures unironically think valve is their friend and they let him get away with nearly anything he wants to.

>polygon
fake news, go home

>>377185310
This would have caused people to make really good mods that you could have pirated anyway.

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>>377185662
>This would have caused people to make really good mods

>>377185659
This, Lord Gaben will punish you OP! You won't get your summer sale and all your lootcrates will be shit! Lol fucking wrecked

>>377185662
People have already made really good mods for free.

>>377185178
>Waaa our friend's games keep getting refunded because they're less than two hours long, waaaaaa.

>>377185759
It would have you retard. Sure a bunch of cash grab garbage too.

>>377185860
>skse64 still not out
lol, yeah man.

>>377185527
>Valve will keep reaching until they have real competition to curb them.
The only ones who have a chance at doing that are the Nipps. And those gooks are too retarded to get into the PC gaming market.

>>377185936
Because monetary gain guarantees quality or that it will be out, right?
t. Patreon & Kickstarter

>>377186048
>here's a strawman
No, kill yourself. I already said there would be cash grab garbage, and you would be """paying""" for the mods after they're out.

>>377185662
>80% goes to valve and the "video game" devs
>making anyone do a good job
imagine if you got taxed 80% at your wagecuck job, would you be doing shit at all?

>>377185178
There is LITERALLY an exact copy of this thread, wtf is this summer-tier shitposting without even checking if an existing shitpost thread exists?

Based Polygon. I love Polygon. Polygon is the best.

>don't make games
>shit like Steam Guard
>sales aren't even good anymore
>tried to push for paid mods
>DRM everywhere
>Steam Early Access
>Monopoly over PC gaming
>the disgusting jew shit that is Steam market

They are correct, Steam and Valve fucking suck.

>>377185178
Where's the lie here? Valve has been banking on Half-Life/Portal/steam sale good will for years now and has no intention of continuing any of their old games. It's literally an abusive relationship

>>377185178
i actually agree with polygon for once

why is /v/ so tsun for steam? it's a great service. i guess it's just sht-eating console women (men)

>>377185178
That article is kinda odd to me because I thought people stopped putting valve/gaben on a pedestal years ago

>>377187807
>i guess it's just sht-eating console women (men)
you say that but then you're reminded of the steam friend threads and what kind of people use steam
Steam is a cancer on the PC market desuyo

>>377187807
Steam has the largest concetration of faggots. Any Steam friend thread is enough proof of this.

>>377186549
>No sequel to this or that game?
>Rape! Rape!

Steam is better for marketing than it is for gaming.

Some of their sales/promos have gotten me to buy shit that I thought I'd get into but drop 9 times out of 10.

>casualized dota
>paid mods
>turned counter strike into a laughing stock
>portal is casual numale garbage
>gabe is a libcuck that hates trump

valve is the antithesis of /v/ and reddit at it's core

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Valve has done nothing for the consumer in years, they only implemented refunds because they were forced to. They are a shit company.

"let's stir up some shit for the sake of getting hits"

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>POLYGON IS NOT YOUR FRIEND, AND NOT HEALTHY FOR GAMING

Just read through the full article. Very interesting shit, especially about the people who previously worked there and the workshop artists.

Actually agree with Polygon for once, has hell frozen over?

>>377185178
>Polygon

>>377185662
That's not how the mod scene works.

Modding thrives off of derivative works. Having to worry about which mods are monetized throws a wrench in things.

>>377185178
Pretty much the only sensible thing polygon has ever said.

I look forward to someone being fired.

BASED Polygon! FUCK videogames!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UujtfN7hCdo

>>377185178
origin is better, it's UI looks way better and it has better games.

>>377185662
>pushing political ideology into gaming field
fuck off or tell me how letting Bethesda demand money for shit like Fallout 4 made the industry better

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>>377188870
>When someone bad says something right it makes what they said wrong

>>377188767
>not the first post by this IP

My my, some Valve fanboy isn't pleased to see this thread.

>>377188870
they aren't wrong about valve

>>377189024
>Let's all listen to the retard, surely he's due to be right this time!

>>377186378

I can get the rest of this, but what's wrong with steam guard? Are they not supposed to have shit to help protect accounts or something?

SG isn't just the mobile bullshit - it also includes the browser/IP checks and two-step email verify.

>>377188104
>>377188219
of course there will be faggots in the video game service with the most users by far

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>>377189085
S-SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! BUY THE DOTA 2 BATTLEPASS NOW!!

>>377188981
hey newfag

>>377188823
>Valve

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>>377185178
Bought 4 CSGO crates and keys to spite you faggots.

I miss when games didnt need to run through a client. Why cant rhey just let me download the game and run it through an exe like the cracked versions

>>377185178
The meaning is that Microsoft paid polygon to convince people that turning PC's into Xboxes with keyboards isn't a fucking retarded thing to do.

>>377189176
He is.

>>377189596
you sure showed us

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>>377185662
No it fucking wouldn't.

>>377189596
You spent your own money, not mine, retard. You only did a disservice to yourself.

>>377185178
>Polygon

>>377189673
maybe not other people, but you -- yes

>>377186220
Not to mention you are also taxed by the gov for that income too. Looking at losing 90% of your earnings to a bunch of fat jews.

>>377189761
>Valve

>>377185178
I totally believe this.
Paid mods was the greatest sin a developer could ever commit.
Fuck valve.

>>377185662
if your mod is good enough you can monetise it anyway
see: Insurgency, Squad, PUBG, CS

>>377189832
Also true

>we killed 20+ years of good will amongst a community by trying to get them to sell eachother out
>HOW ARE WE THE BAD GUYS, WE'RE PAYING THEM FOR SOMETHING THEY ALL LOVED TO DO FOR FREE!

>>377185178
Holy shit Polygon got something right?

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>>377185178
>Polygon

>>377189954
Valve listens to the community, just look at when they listened and brought back sprays.

>>377190020
there was a spray controversy?

>>377190013
Beat me to it.

Seriously I remember when gaming sites were full of cheat codes and guides and previews of games. Not horrible bait articles full of shit. Steam isn't perfect, but it gives a unified platform. Windows is worse for gaming than Steam.

>>377190103
I would imagine that someone got offended or something

now sprays are pretty much broken

>>377185178
He means (you) are as degenerated as Polygon.

>>377190181
>>377190103
He's joking... they "brought them back" by making them in-game items approved through the workshop that they sell for money.

>>377185178
I know this anyway.
I don't need a Microsoft funded, 'gaming' website to tell me that.

>>377190291
>>He's joking... they "brought them back" by making them in-game items approved through the workshop that they sell for money.
what
I have a spray still?

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>polygon of all websites calls out valve on their horseshit
first the last few "writers" left at valve leave and now this happens, what a time to be alive, I can't wait until other journalists follow suit. where were you guys when the toppling of a once giant began?

>polygon

why because of that alt-right nazy consumer first ideology?

>>377185178
I have been against Valve and Steam for many years. I've been buying computer games since I was 7 when I played Diablo 1 with my father. When Steam came out I thought it was the most intrusive crap ever and only meant to stop me from playing a game I paid for. I never purchased a game through steam or used the service until fucking Skyrim of all games required me to install steam with the game disc (really?) in 2011. Since then only more and more games have required me to use steam to the point of complete pc market dominance we see today. The only thing Steam does is allow Valve to exist and keep making shitty games that nickle and dime you for shit like hats and gun skins from gambling. It offers very little to the consumer besides convenience for people that don't want to deal with retail. If you're not autistic such circumstances were never an issue before Steam acquired the market share it monopolizes today. Sure retail is dying in general, but the service steam offers to consumers can just as easily be achieved through a website without the always online bullshit and "game licencing" as a service. When steam dies one day everyone will lose their games, I guarentee it.

>>377185178
>Does the company sell good games
Yes

>Are the prices low
Yes

>Is the service convenient
Yes

>Have I ever experienced any mild inconvenience with with this service
Maybe once of twice, but nothing major.

So given that, Valve is indeed my friend. Cheap games + convenient network = muh friend.

>>377191670
>not the first post by this IP

Why are you still here, Gabe?

JUST

>>377189187
The problem is it's forced because some 12 year old got scammed out of his account because he's a dumbass and bitched a fit to valve and valve doesn't like customer service.

>>377185178
Lots of sales, prices are whatever when not on sale, its convenient to use and I never had any problems with it except when I had ghetto internet for awhile.

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Broken clock is right twice a day.

Its Polygon but its absolutely true. Valve is a cancer.

>Steam sales become the norm
>Every PC platform other than Steam forced to conform
>GoG used to be vocally anti mass sales but they had to conform to compete
>Consoles follow suit and games are inexpensive (relatively) in a year
>Even happens to a small extent sometimes with Nintendo
>EVERY fucking dev that opens up about their sales say that they get massive week 1 sales, mediocre week 2 sales, and then sales totally drop off until the first time the game is discounted. After it goes on sale 3-4 more times sales dry up completely for all but the most popular releases. Indie gaming rarely sees runaway success anymore, and those that do can't afford to make more games even if they make it big, this hurts devs on all levels, and PC exclusives that can get ported are getting ported to Xbone/PS4/Switch/Smartphone/Etc
Valve shortsightedly forced the entire industry into an unsustainable business model thats going to crash and burn the whole fucking thing.

>>377185178
>Polygon
Better the devil I pay then the devil paid by SJWs.

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>>377185662
>This would have caused people to make really good mods
>Doing mods for money instead for love is better

Yeah you can have cancer and die now.Thanks.

>>377194070
A good product is a good product, I don't care if it was made with love you gay redditor.

>>377193576
>unsustainable business model
With people buying brand new games just for cards or buying a game twice because they got banned, looks like a pretty good model to me.

Valve is shit but they made a controller concept interesting enough that I bought one on sale.

I want to play Torchlight 2 and other shit on my PC

>>377194292
>As the industry crashes and burns around steam
Also your retarded if you honestly think enough people are doing Steam trading card/item autism to support the entire video game industry

>>377189176
works with /pol/

The funny thing is - no one on /v/ will call Valve on their bullshit. Most of you are kids or NEETs, who don't understand how Steam is bad for you in the long run, by being bad for devs and content creators. You only see the fucking carrot, not the stick.

It's understandable why and how Valve is shitty at what they do, they literally play the good guy and you will still suck their cocks during Steam Sales etc. Because you only want cheap games, not thinking how what Steam does affects you.

>>377185310
Anybody who has had to deal with Steam "Customer service" has known this since day one.

Not to mention they consistently breach consumer rights regulations and laws.

>>377194145
>A good product is a good product

You missed the point entirely faggot. Look at what happened with the bethesda mod fiasco and the first mod released that way. A shitty quality mod for muh money.

It was a joke and you are part of it.

>>377194724
>the first mod released
Yes, it was released minutes after the change you idiot. Recognized and distinguished Mod authors like that sperg arthmoor were willing to quit their jobs to make better mods and improve upon existing ones. You're a fucking retard.

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>>377185662
Since nobody is explaining why its bad i will see if i can do it

First scenario (no paid mods) means just people doing it as a hobby, you have people creating mods that go from really shitty to impressive, the later inspires more people to get into modding themselves which continues the cycle as old blood leaves, a good example of this is the Doom community which is still alive after decades and built new engines just so they could further push to the limit

The second scenario (paid mods) is bad because it ruins the community part, the people who would just do it as a hobby start doing it as a job (the "i have bills to pay" argument, not talking about donations), so instead of just being a circle of friends doing it for fun its now a business, you have people who are left out because they can't afford the mods, and most importantly, a huge nosedive in quality because some start going for this quantity over quality approach where they just shit as many mods as they can to make profit, shitty mods will exist anyway but in this case some people will do things like put less effort into good mods or cut them into pieces to make more money, it will be kinda like the DLC/mobile market

Another good point made in the past was the possibility of just adding a donation button, Valve's argument was that modders deserved money, problem is that if donations were added Valve wouldn't make profit from it, with paid mods both Valve and the company that owns the game gain part of the profits, i hope that also clears up their true intentions

>>377195607
>muh community
How to spot a redditor. How much of an actual faggot do you have to be to consider yourself to be in a modding community?

>>377185178
> Sony is not your friend, and PSN is not healthy for gaming
> The illusion behind the "Good Guy Sony" reputation

A company that tried to stall as much as possible a trial just so they wouldn't give refunds to people?? Who would have imagined that such company wasn't a friend of ours?

Gaben doesn't even likes to give hugs and to be hugged, how can the internet even make that guy look like a loveable motherfucker? M E M E P O W E R

it's not a black & white issue

steam is good and bad. right now mostly still good over bad

steam being a central place for your games, accessible anywhere around the world is great. sales are great. helps combat piracy and discover games you wouldn't normally play. being able to talk to your friends across multiple games is great. direct is going to be better at filtering out cancerous walking pixel sims than greenlight.

they've also gotten to where they are by nature of the competition just sucking complete dick

ubiplay, origin, etc. it's all hot garbage. gog is incompetent, and publishers love DRM regardless

paid mods are not great at all. a donate button is much better. although i suspect Valve is partially taking the heat for the publishers who are really trying monetize that shit, aka bethesda. it's no surprise they were the first ones to try and do this. it seems like their kind of bullshit m.o. publishers want to squeeze out every dollar. valve would get a cut through steam, and no company would turn down free money

Corporations want to make money

Corporations also benefit from having good customer relations

At the end of the day, if they had to choose, they'd go with making money over making a bunch of anonymous autists from 4chan and reddit worship them.

>>377185178
He's a paid EA shill.

>>377196679
Valve was in fact able to do both in the past, my new friend.

>>377195691
Did you really think anyone would fall for this weak-ass bait?

>>377196679
Valve already sits on billions upon billions of dollars for distributing shitty games with low production values.

>>377197213
>i'm part of the 4chan community
t. you (redditor)

>>377196224
Spoken like a true pcbro.

They aren't wrong, but I don't like how opinions shift based on whatever (((they))) push.

Plenty of other services are offering great products, and its unwise to have "all your eggs in one basket" as it were regardless.

The Microsoft Store is disorganized as hell, but it works perfectly fine. You get your games, its integrated with the Xbox App, keeps them up to date. Plus on Play Anywhere games you get a Xbox copy as well. Something to think about before you buy the same game on Steam.

Steam support has given me nothing but problems but Origin is always on point and gives me free shit to top it off. Not to mention its the only place to play my favorite benchmark, Crysis 3.

If im in the mood to play indie stuff I get on itch.io. Granted half of it doesn't really deserve to exist, but you can't get more indie than that. And there are plenty of gems.

And I don't particularly like DRM, though I tolerate it, so GOG is always a top stop for me as well.

I don't like the Steam meme particularly.

>>377188527
Yeah. Completely unlike you because you are 100% pure reddit.

>>377185318
No but at least at Nintendo, people like Miyamoto (and Iwata before he selfishly left to a different plane of existence) have enough pull, and he just wants to make games

>>377185662
It would have caused mod trolling and shitty drm, not to deter pirates but to make sure Zhuge Chong doesn't reupload a recolor of your content as paid but with better publicity and with lawyers to cuck you out of your own content.
>>377195607
There's also the fact that many mods build upon other mods, or integrate such into their design. If you privatize any part of this chain you get less collaborations overall.

>>377185350
>problematic

gaben and half-life 3 memes keep children drinking the kool-aid

>>377193576
>these things are bad look at my shitposting

>>377185178
>polygon

Tell your buddy to stop making shitty games and maybe I won't refund them.

>>377185178
Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, though.

Sure, steam can be anti-consumer in some respects.

However, they make it extremely easy to buy vidya, which is a tremendous positive for an industry which would otherwise be cut off at the knees by piracy.

>>377185178
in general I would agree that monopolies are bad, but the pricing seems pretty good
the pricing on g2a that is

What are these people talking about? Steam reinvented PC gaming by making the games waaay cheaper. They changed the formula on how selling games work. I mean, call Gabe whatever you want but he did not do anything wrong.

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>>377198072
>he just wants to make games
Sure, buddy.

>>377185527
the problem is that retards want a monopoly. there are people who will buy a game on steam even though they could get it drm free for the same price on gog because of "muh steam." there was even an instance where a publisher was telling people to pirate their game rather than buy steam keys from resellers, but dumb ass millenials wouldn't do it because of "muh steam."

>>377185178
Go buy from GoG or the W10 store, or uPlay or Origin or whatever then.

>>377185662
people can already get paid for modding without having to give a cat to some fat Jew who wants to profit off their work without doing anything.

Since I am not European. I still have little to no idea how Steam could grow to be so ridiculously big.
Really. What is it about Americans and their love for digital copies over physical copies?

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>>377199134
This is not dumb. And it's not people wanting steam to be a monopoly.

You forget that people don't only buy games to actually play the games but also as a sort of status symbol like designer clothes. If your friends are on steam and you buy the games and show off that you are playing the games in combination with getting cards and leveling up your steam account it's completely rational for some people to act this way.

Just because you give 0 value to these things it seems absurd but that doesn't mean it is irrational for people to act this way.

I'm willing to bet you're also the kind of person that dislikes designer clothes or apple products for the same reasons because you apply 0 value to the social aspects of owning products and using consumption of goods as a tool to shape your social circle.

protip: Try to actually look at the situation and think about how it would benefit you the most and then realize that using consumer goods to manipulate your social circle gives a far higher return on investment than other approaches.

>>377196009
That only existed for a few months following e3 2013

>>377199951
>lol people behave like retards and show other retards how retarded they are and they have a contest to see who's the biggest retard but don't call them retards you bigot

>>377199397

American game stores are awful, and have been for a long time.

You guys think Gabe would never punish people out of spite

yet he hates Australians and even more after he got sued.

Australia will never get a supported currency because Gabe doesn't want to pay tax, He let New Zealand and India get supported currency but not Australia.

We really did a number on his butthole, he really got mad.

>>377201603
the times I needed to go to a gamestop, I had no issue, just don't be so dysfunctional that you can't even talk to someone at a register

Polygon is a fakenews outlet

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Steam is a bloated cancerous mass on PC gaming, but they have a monopoly

>>361603657

>>377185662
>20% of the money would have gone to the one actually doing the work
Fuck off faggot

>>377185662

>just like how porn games get better with more money on patreon right

money is never an incentive to do great work you mong,

>>377202175
art is nothing more than a platform to gain fame and wealth, videogames are the same

>>377185315
Pirating is healthy for my wallet, fuck gaming, who cares if no new games are made ever again. I have more than enough games to keep me busy for years in monster Hunter *alone*.

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>>377185178
>*Company* is not your friend!
Thanks *Another company*. You have truly enlightened me. Without a doubt you are one of the good guys and my friend.

>>377185178

A large degree of hegemony is inevitable when it comes to the mass selling of goods. We could have done much, much worse than Steam. Imagine an industry ruled by a predatory company like EA, for example.

I'd also say that the relationship between Steam and its consumer base is about as healthy as could be expected. The relationship between a buyer and seller is more adversarial than that of friends, true, but there seems to be a mutual desire for prosperity there. I wouldn't describe Valve as a company which is constantly testing the waters to see how badly they can screw over their customers before people get angry.

He's probably just upset that Steam hasn't joined the neo-Marxist revolution.

>>377185178
Apparently Valve didn't pay up for Vox Media's annual fundraising drive.

>>377199397
The price. If you wait long enough shit on steam can get extremely cheap. I have no idea why anyone would ever buy a full priced game on steam though.

>>377204386
>He's probably just upset that Steam hasn't joined the neo-Marxist revolution.

Hey. Actually, come to think of it. How did Valve and Steam manage to stay neutral in this shitshow? Every other western game company dipped their toes into this one way or another but not them. Is it because they aren't making games?

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>>377185178
>Aerodactyl is trending
How?! Sure, it felt like a special Pokemon back then but why is he trending now

>>377204954
the ignorant masses from the steam community do it for them

>>377205030
it's an event in pokemon go I think

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>>377204954

They haven't. They flickered for a moment, but ultimately sided with free speech.

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>Steam sales for mods

>>377199090
Its same as other places nowadays, things used to be record cheap in the sales. Steam doesn't do anything that differentiates it from other platforms anymore other than the sheer amount of games it provides. Gaben becoming a Jew and reddit sucking his cock day in and out doesn't help

>>377185662
Just like Kickstarter and Early Access caused developers to make good games?

i remember being 13 or 14 when portal 2 came out and telling a friend that valve was dead

there's a nice bit of satisfaction in knowing i was right
they haven't released a good game since

>>377204954

If you even remotely pander to minorities, islam or homos then they'll use it against you when you do something they don't like.

It's best to completely avoid them all together so they have no ammo against you. They can write all the bullshit hitpieces they want but its easy to debunk them when you have no history.

Reminder that polygon is owned by microsoft.

>>377185178
It's almost like Polygon is the gaming equivalent of big newspapers.
There shouldn't be BIAS in your journalism.

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>>377185178

T. EA

Steam certainly is far from being perfect. Especially since they added Greenlight. However PC gaming was agonizing before Steam. Whoever was there in the late 90's; early 00's won't deny this.

These cunts are either mad Valve isn't public so they can't buy shares or are just EA shills.

>>377199397
>implying it's only americans
You're fucking DELUSIONAL if you think USA caused steam to get this big alone.

>>377194463
What is keeping a developer from selling their games on GoG or just making their own website and selling it that way?

>>377185178
Wow what a fresh unique opinion piece, never heard this one on /v/ before.

Steam isn't good but they are the lesser evil. Every alternative is shit. This is (((MS))) trying to force an agenda.

>>377205129

The idea to compensate modders somehow is noble.

However putting a price tag and taking like 80% of the money between Valve and the publisher/dev was really rotten.

Paid DLCs in general are cancer anyway.

>>377205432
GOG you dumb fucking redditor pcbro

>>377185662
It would have caused a legal nightmare when people start questioning who owns the rights to the Thomas the Tank Engine mod in Skyrim.

Is it Valve, Bethesda, the modder or Egmont?

Never considered steam my "friend" but saying it isn't healthy for gaming is outright a lie. Steam made PC gaming what it is today, a market worth investing for publishers and developers all over the world.

>>377205456
GOG doesn't have a library as big as steam moron.

>>377205552
wtf why does valve-drone alternate to pcbro
>>377205552
nobody gives a shit about your 200000 greenlight gay fucking numale shit retared

>>377185627
They are above console so far, they can't even see their Mario kart no.34562879 on subpar hardware that was obsolete decade ago.

>>377185178
>no archive link
>no pastebin
Fuck off shill.

>>377205606
Lmao compared to what?

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Shit like
Dota2?
CSGO?
EARLY ACCESS TRASH?

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>no pastebin
>no way to know the article's contents
>no links in the whole thread
>168 posts discussing a headline
OP continues to be a massive faggot

https://pastebin.com/GPYT6YsB

>>377199134
>there are people who will buy a game on steam when they could get it elsewhere instead, too (because ''muh steam'')
No, because muh convenience.
If you could get a 5% discount on a new TV set, but in return whenever you'd want to use it you would have to retrieve the remote from your neighbor, would you do it?

Maybe you would, but most people don't. Steam isn't just a storefront, it's the most convenient way to access your games when you want to play them.

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>>377185178
>yfw you lose your last friend

>>377185662
NEW: DENUVO FOR MODS !
PROTECTING YOUR SHINNNY NEW HORSE COCK MOD FROM PIRACY

>there are people who still like Valve
They have done literally next to nothing over the past 10 years. They used to be one of the coolest developers with one of the best games under t heir belt but now they're just a distributor.

They ended HL2 on a cliffhanger and its been 10 fucking years

10
FUCKING
YEARS

>>377194375
Yes, games being complete dogshit despite having AAA+ budgets is totally steam's fault.
Even when those games report a million sales after the first month.

>>377205705

Dota 2 is the greatest game ever made by a human, you filth

On topic, yes, Steam and Valve has a lot of shit. The problem is that every other service manages to have EVEN MORE shit.

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>>377205749
The only cooperation legitedmeyly our friend is Sony,

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>>377185178
monopoly are bad cause a benevolent as a person some consider gabe as being. One day he will die or give control up and maybe not then or there but eventually someone will come along and will jew the fuck out of people due to the large monopoly they got for the sake of pure short term profit.

So if gabe does not go ultra mega lameo jew someone will eventually come along and ultra jew as many users as possible.


and on another note valve is a corporation and corporations are not peoples friends since they seek mainly profit and not customer satisfaction first and foremost.

>>377205707
Holy shit that was the gayest shit i have ever read. Jesus fucking Christ. Humanity needs to be purged. I thought OP was a fag for not posting a pastebin but mother fucking Christ he was trying to save me from having to read it. I hate valve as much as the next guy but God damn. I need to go lie down.

>>377205987
GOG dumb mobacuck sucking fag

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Yeah i did buy games i never played just because they were cheap and it teached something about myself, also i bought the new Battle Pass 30euros and felt great about it.
Origin and Battle.net are the true jews here i removed all my accounts from them. I think GOG and Steam are debatable subject.

>>377203763
It must hurt to be this retarded.

>>377185662
I agree.
The arguments made against it are either flatout so stupid i assume it's just subconscious justifications for being cheap, or under some false pretence that all mods have to be paid.
>>377205506
Not everything has to be monetized or even on steam.
>>377186220
Taxes are mandatory putting your game on sale on steam is not. That has more to do with a monopoly by steam than the principal of paid mods. If nexus really wanted to they could just release their own storefront with smaller margins for themselves than valve.

>>377198072
I would actually rather the business people run a platform and people who want to make games just work for a company that makes games.

>>377185178
Why would any corporation be your friend?
If it was profitable for corporation employees to hunt you down and kick the shit out of you, they would.

>>377199951
People buy social status symbol things to get laid.
A steam library doesn't get you laid.
So yes thosr people are dumb.

>>377188870
>>377188767
>>377188649
>>377185884
>guilt by association

Just because they've been wrong before doesn't make them necessarily wrong in other cases, you fucking infantile retards

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>>377189597
>what is GoG

>>377185178
Holy shit, Polygon puts out a useful article for once.

>>377205246
this, the only winning move is not to play.

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I can understand the argument that Valve are greedy jews for them and the game developer taking almost all of the money while leaving modders with nothing, but what is wrong with paid mods in general? If people get money they can use it to make better quality mods and we can all still pirate the better mods for free while paycucks happily pay for all the other parties involved so everyone wins.

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>>377188527
You are reddit at it's core. Go back to /r/the_dimwit where you came from.

>>377207592
Inb4 some fag thinks Galaxy being an option means it's as bad as Steam.

>>377207671
Jelous faggots don't like others making money.
"muuuh community" etc.

Basically the arguement isnif someone makes something good for free. The optional ability to monetize it will make them spontaneously combust or something.

>>377207671
>>377207774
>replying to yourself

>>377207671
>If people get money they can use it to make better quality mods and we can all still pirate the better mods for free while paycucks happily pay for all the other parties involved so everyone wins.
Except that didn't happen at all within the brief window that Steam had paid mods. People stole other people's content and sold it, on top of several mods needing other mods to run driving the cost up.
Sorry but you clearly live in fantasyland if you think this will run smoothly.

>>377205987
Mobas are RTSs for retards and casuals.

>>377207592
The place with nogaems

>>377198072
Nintendo treats its audience like shit though, they just have a sever case of stockholm syndrome

>>377207880
>it didn't work perfectly day one, so it would never work.
Makes sense to me.
And then after they removed the stolen mods and figuired out how to deal with mod dependencies?

>>377185178
I wish this hadn't been written by polygon

>>377208032
It's from the Point and Clickbait guy, he works there now

>>377208008
>And then after they removed the stolen mods and figuired out how to deal with mod dependencies?
What in Valve's history makes you think they would employ somebody to police stolen mods? They don't curate the actual games on Steam, why would they do anything to literal nobodies' hobby?

>>377208008
>Makes sense to me.
You mean for the better part of an entire week. And no, the situation was not improving but getting worse every hour.
>And then after they removed the stolen mods and figuired out how to deal with mod dependencies?
They did all that by pulling the rug out from under the whole idea and scrapping it. That's not a fix, that's abandonment and doesn't solve the core issues at hand.

>>377193576
i know right? i used to love buying games at full price. i fucking HATE sales, what am i supposed to do with all this extra money?

>>377207880
>Except that didn't happen at all within the brief window that Steam had paid mods. People stole other people's content and sold it, on top of several mods needing other mods to run driving the cost up.

Fair point but I think after the storm that is the first launch has blown over the community would have gotten much better at organizing paid mods and spotting mods with stolen assets. And from a consumer perspective (which is basically everyone on /v/) this doesn't matter a whole lot anyways.

>>377208149
>the community would have gotten much better at organizing paid mods and spotting mods with stolen assets.
How?
>And from a consumer perspective (which is basically everyone on /v/) this doesn't matter a whole lot anyways.
How do you figure this?

>>377208068
It's not a sustainable business to sell stolen work and they are a legitimate reputable Washington based company so...
>>377208116
Oh sorry the market existed for a week. My bad if it's not perfect by then it will never be.

>Pcbros still trying to justify paid mods
You're worse than Applefags, Nintendofags and Blizzdrones.

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>>377208372
This.
Fuck capitilism games should be free.
And so should food and education!
Also i should get paid more than minimum wage!

>>377208605
>implying \V\ wouldn't download food, cash, and a degree

I hope this will finally drive out the steamcucks from /v/

I've never even owned a legit copy of Half Life 2 despite spending several hundred euros every year on games because of steam.

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On one hand
>polygon
On the other hand, valve turned into the ultimate jew with full control of pc while putting up a good guy facade.
Everyone that's been with them for a while knows exactly the shady shit they do, not even mentioning how fucked and shady the whole steam economy thing is on so many levels.

>>377208931
>valve turned into the ultimate jew with full control of pc while putting up a good guy facade.

And no one considers "valve" a good guy anymore, especially with the paid mods fiasco. People see them as a convenient service and nothing more, it's a good thing really. Corporate fanboyism is the cancer that's killing the industry as a whole.

>>377199951
>Just because you give 0 value to these things it seems absurd but that doesn't mean it is irrational for people to act this way.
Oh hell yeah it is, it is pretty much the definition of irrational as it is basically entirely emotionally driven.

If you bought steam games as a status symbol based on a rational, logical thinking process to impress a certain group of people for example or to give you an "in" into a social circle because of your newly acquired gamer cred, not only would you be a humongous faggot, but also bordering on being a psychopath

>>377208062
>It's from the Point and Clickbait guy
who?

>>377208139
FUCK SALES. fuck sales. sales make the game i worked SO HARD FOR earn me LESS MONEY all because of some christcuc holiday.

>>377209573
I don't mind paying full price if your game is actually good

but I will pirate it first and see if I actually want to pay money at all

>>377209310
I redirect you to the cancer that is reddit or several threads on this board

>>377209573
What about all the studies from Valve which show that sales increased the money devs made from games?

10% sale = 35% increase in sales (real dollars, not units shipped)
25% sale = 245% increase in sales
50% sale = 320% increase in sales
75% sale = 1470% increase in sales
Source: http://www.shacknews.com/article/57308/valve-left-4-dead-half

>>377185662
they can put their stuff on a crowdfunding website anyway

>>377209694
>Valve's own game
Does this account for the 30% cut that Valve takes of all sales through their store?

>>377210037
Do you know how percentages work

>>377209646
>I redirect you to the cancer that is reddit
And even reddit shat all over paid mods and gaben. convenient service nothing more

>or several threads on this board
Like what? Profile threads? Who gives a shit about those, and those exist with every fucking platform. None of them "PRAISE GABEN PRAISE VALVE" that shit is old and dealt with. People could give two shits between valve or gog, it's basically whatever is cheaper and/or more reliable.

>>377186378
>shit like steam guard
Hate recent valve but anyone hating on steam guard is ether too poor for a phone or just butthurt that his bots won't work unless he got another phone

>>377196224
How is ubiplay or origin worse than Steam?

Serious question, without just saying that they're bad because Ubisoft or EA. What's worse in them? Steam started the same, as a shitty DRM you had to install to play Half-Life 2.

Also, people here seem to think Steam is okay, because they as consumers can buy games for cheap. Not understanding in how many other ways they're being fucked over. They only see a fucking small carrot, not the huge stick behind it.

>>377185627
Keep telling that to yourself while you pay for online, you stupid faggot.

>>377210595
>Not understanding in how many other ways they're being fucked over. They only see a fucking small carrot, not the huge stick behind it.
elaborate

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>/v/ once sent a card to the guy they pay to rent digital game licenses from like he's their buddy

>>377210595
Origin's problem is the
>EA
meme and the fact that when it first came out you had to opt out of the hardware survey instead of it being opt in.

Uplay was a genuinely bad service at first, but is now far more worthwhile. It's still an annoyance to have to use it when you're already using another client, but beyond that there's nothing terrible about it anymore.

>>377185178
>worshipping a fat businessman and blindly supporting a near monopoily is bad
Who would have guessed?

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Remember this?

>>377211271
Not a bad idea considering the encroachment of Windows 8 at the time, but the prebuilts that various companies sold were overpriced to fuck for what they were.

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>>377185662

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>>377211271
I love my Alienware Alpha.

Couch gaming up to Crysis 3 on medium (and all the emulation), torrent and watch from your living room, pre-installed Kodi and actual GOOD Alienware software like Respawn. Not to mention it makes LAN parties a fuck of a lot easier to carry your shit than a standard large ATX desktop.

I'll definitely purchase another Steam machine sometime. Either the improved Alienware Alpha "R2" or the MSI Trident 3 Arctic have my attention. The latter being much more expensive but the GTX 1070 makes a compelling argument.

I don't understand /v/'s dislike for the idea of SFF portable gaming PC's.

>>377185178
The only reason I pay for any games is Steam
Without it I'd be full piracy full time

>>377211965
Are you dual booting then? I thought Steam Machines came with SteamOS as default?

>>377211994
But Steam DRM is like a ten minute job to crack now, it's not 2004 anymore.

>>377185178
Polygon ain't healthy for the industry either.

>>377212248
he might mean steam as a service
ye-know the ole "piracy is a service problem"

>>377185662
Charging money for Early Access games has already proven that your statement is false.

>>377212557
The devs do that, retard

>>377188767
polygon published stories attacking gamers
now i am not defending steam but polygon has actually attack its core demographic on multiple occasions. polygon published stories that called people with different opinions the worst names under the sun.
again valve isn't innocent here but to defend polygon is to defend whats wrong with gaming media

>>377210752
>HAHA I POSTED LE EPIK RENT MEME AGAIN MOM!

>>377212645
"""Professional""" developers can't do it, what makes you think modders could?

Ill just leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYE5cxQrIp8

>They spend more money on 'economists' and 'business psychologists' (read: how can we make gambling MORE addicting?)
>The Steam Platform is still a laggy, buggy piece of shit from 2003 held together with scotch tape and graphical updates.
>Valve hasn't released an original IP since Half Life (the first one).
>A broken clock is right twice a day.
>Monopolies are bad.
>Their sales suck.

>>377205741
im glad no one responded to this bait

>>377207132
>buy shit on steam
>guy friend thinks you're cool
>hang out more irl and introduces you to girls
you've never thought about anything beyond surface level. stay pleb

>>377185936

>one skyrim modder not wanting to do work on a pet project means I'm all clear to get smug

SJWs like those fucks at Polygon actively do more to destroy gaming than Valve

>>377201683
>You guys think Gabe would never punish people out of spite
>yet he hates Australians and even more after he got sued.
>Australia will never get a supported currency because Gabe doesn't want to pay tax, He let New Zealand and India get supported currency but not Australia.
>We really did a number on his butthole, he really got mad.
He's still getting sued, I have a complaint filed with the ACCC because valve refused to refund despite publisher misconduct. He lost the first round and was so asspained he appealed to the high court rather than pay up.

>/v/ is so cucked that they agree with Polygon because they hate PC

Really oils my knockers.

it's true though, and this all started because the internet developed a cult of personality around gabe newell over a bunch of half-life 3 jokes. i'd like to believe most people on /v/ know now that its idiotic to praise a corporation and call them "good guys" but i don't know.. some of you are pretty big corporate nob gobblers.

>>377205707
>pirating news

ah, a thread full of butthurt. let's pick through it

>>377185310
there's nothing wrong with paid mods. just look at how many modern games support mods. very few. if paid mods were allowed, devs would start creating APIs for their games to be modded. You're literally saying that you'd rather have nothing than pay a few bucks to support modders, you piece of shit.

>>377199134
steam isn't a monopoly. learn what the word means. There are plenty of other digital storefronts you asshat. You're also defending G2A which shows that you're an flaming garbage fire non human with no morals.

>>377185315
Exactly my case.

Help /v/ how do I go back to pirating? Steam achievements and cards/badges have destroyed my torrenting life and I can't seem to escape

>>377185178
He meant "someone will probably make a screencap of this and make a thread about it on 4chan giving us free publicity!".
Get out you piece of shit.

>>377205387
The risk of making less money.

>>377213000
>people buying games having friends to hang out with

>>377189916
>PUBG
>Good

I'm willin to bet that the majority of games played and bought on Steam are multiplayer.
Buying Single Player on steam is fucking retarded but Multiplayer makes sense since the steam framework is extremely handy for quickly playing with friends and making friends in game.
Also people get to see your wacky avatar.

>>377213531
>giving us free publicity
everyone and their dog knows about steam, comon now

>>377213430
>people in their basement making simple as fuck texture reswaps should be getting paid off a game they didnt work on

kill yourself, people that actually enjoy making mods do it for free no problem

t. modder

>>377185178
While this is true, I'm skeptical over the motives they had to write this hitpiece.

>>377214079
>people who make games should it for free because it's fun!
retard logic.

>they didnt work on

>people in their basement
>t. modder
so you're projecting and think everyone else is an untalented piece of shit cellar dweller that is only capable of texture swaps. I get it.

I have no fucking idea what you people freak about now

>>377210638
>you pay for internet, you pay for electricity, you pay rent
oh nvm i forgot you still live with your parents you useless poorfag

>>377185662
yeah because that's exactly what happen with greenlit.

>>377185662
This is why I support euthanasia

>>377210752
/v/'s cards are cursed.
>happy birthday card to Gabe
>Valve lets the world know it wants to become a Rothschild

>send a card to Nintendo Treehouse for the great E3 where they actually talked about games
>Treehouse decides it wants to do nothing but butcher and "localise" games

>happy birthday card to Kojima
>Phantom Pain is unifinished, Konami essentially purges itself

>get well card to Iwata
>Iwata dies

>>377185662
>what is Steam Greenlight
>what is the pile of shit indie "games" currently clogging the Steam storefront

>>377213650
You can have your own opinion about the game but the 2 millions playerbase seems pretty well monetized for a mod to me. But valve cant, valve is evil, everyone here blaming steam for not doing a good job. Still, you all have a steam account. Delete it and go play the sims or the 3 other games origin offers then kek
I cant see why people hates so much the idea of paid mods. You pay for games. You pay for DLCs. A mod is a community created DLC. Let the modder decide if he wants to be paid for his work or not.
Steam is doing a great job with their marketing, it is just the best market for games, noone offers anything close to it. Who cares if steam dont listen to community feedback? Valve still provide you the service you need to enjoy your fucking game. Go kill yourself /v/

>>377193576
the sales meme isn't exclusive to valve or video game markets as a whole. have you set foot into a department store in the past 10 years?

>>377186378
>>377193576

More honest word's have never been spoken

you know what
fuck gaming
let it all die, it's shit for you, for the industry, for everyone
I'll go to /vr/ and be an underground degenerate pirate-only fag

>>377212881
The best part is that this video was made in 2013, before the paid mods debacle, before refunds, before they stopped caring about Dota 2 updates even. It's amazing what a bit of positive public image can do for a company that's become the definition of capitalism.

>>377210507
this desu

>>377205387
because it's "not Steam". Hell, I don't even know of anyone off of 4chan that knows that GoG exists.

>>377196224
GoG is incompetent? Elaborate please. I've heard nothing but praise for it, but I'm always suspicious of companies that spring up from nowhere and offer promises that seem too good to be true.

>>377205456
>all these faggot shills trying to promote GoG

GoG is absolute shit you goddamn retards.

>>377206080
>legitedmeyly
What the fuck, I can't believe I share a board with actual fucking retards, good lord are you in grade school you illiterate fuck?

>>377185178
The free market will fix it.

>>377210595
The biggest bother with Uplay is simply that you have to use it in addition to Steam.

>>377216135
The free market is what led to this

>>377185178
Polygon is angry at valve because they refused replacing metacritic score with theirs.
Why do you people keep reading them? they are the equivalent of buzzfeed for games.

>>377187807
Vee hate popular shits.

>hitpiece on valve out of thin air
Something happened under the public eye that got polygon all pissy at valve.

>There are people who literally paid for games they don't even physicaly own
>Thinking you guys wont be cucked

>>377216458
Nah, people were aware of it before. It's just conveniently in one piece now for more to see.

This thread reeks of false flag viral.

Is polygon this desperate? my jew nose says YES

>>377216582
>my jew nose

t. Gaben

>>377205338
He's not just delusional he's O B S E S S E D.

>>377216494
The only thing who could make us lose all the digital content would be valve going bankrupt. That won't happen. Could lose his monopoly, it wont go down. You're talking like valve wants to kick their paying consumers out the platform lol
>paying for a physical copy that will scratch and become useless
I see your point, yeah

>>377216041
You're not a critical thinker, are ya, anon?
He clearly fatfingered that on his phone, so he's worse than a retard, he's a phoneposter.

>>377185178
Why is Aerodactyl trending?

>>377185178
For the first time I agree with polygon
bizarre ass world

>>377185178

t. a console fanboy who's mad about steam success.

>>377185178
>Polygon saying something isn't healthy for gaming
guaranteed keks.
I'm not a big fan of Steam either but I'd rather have an actual competitor to Steam as opposed to just not using it.
>>377198072
fucking wew. I can't believe people are still falling for this.

>Gabe newell

>Basically the god of DRM

>Good guy

LMAO

>>377194965
>Arthmoor
>Recognized and distinguished

Not after he vigorously defended the paid mods bullshit.

>>377185178
he's right

He is right.
I stopped paying for games unless they have a DRM free physical release.
This digital only shit is extremely anti-consumer. I ended up getting a console just so I could actually own the games that I fucking paid for.
Valve and that fat faggot Gaben and all his blind cocksuckers are the scum that have hurt PC gaming and made so many games be digital only, or if they are physical you get a fucking card in the case with a Steam code on it

>>377213430
>He thinks devs don't allow modding because of them being free
No, it's so they can't have people make their DLC content for free, and better than they release. It is a way to make their DLC necessary.

>>377214426
What good games has Greenlight even produced

>>377202106
Just fucking 20%? now I understand the shitstorm in a better way.

>>377185178
>all Steam games require an extremely invasive DRM to be active at all time during play

Gee I dunno

>>377213430

This is some pretty decent bait. Would have been better without the first line, though.

>>377218337
Plus they didn't get their money until they reached a certain quota. So until they reached (IIRC) 100 bucks they didn't see a dime.

>>377205705

Remember when PS4 gamers begged for ARK and played it more on PS4 than Horizon Zero Dawn during HZD's release month? Same shit will happen when PUBG releases on PS4.

Every consolefag claims early access games are shit but boy do they love eating that shit up when it comes to consoles.

>>377206080

Pajeet please remember to use the translator properly before you post on behalf of Sony

>>377218446
Same with console games, at least Steam doesn't trick you into buying the DRM

>>377218776
At this point I've played enough decent early access games that I've flip flopped entirely and like them now. Factorio, Minecraft (though it's still incomplete imo), and Darkest Dungeon are my top three. Factorio has raised the bar though, makes even the other two I mentioned look like shit.

>>377193576
>Consoles follow suit and games are inexpensive (relatively) in a year
I don't know about that, the games that don't sell well disappear and get really hard to find and the games that do so well get fixed as "classics" and are still like $20-$25. $5-10 console games don't really exist

>Indie gaming rarely sees runaway success anymore

That is partly Steam's fault for allowing so much garbage into the system but also the general supply and demand because if it wasn't Steam it would be something else. It's just supply and demand.

>PC exclusives that can get ported are getting ported to Xbone/PS4/Switch/Smartphone/Etc
That has ALWAYS happened. Console exclusives sell systems but PC exclusives were not like that. Any good, well-selling computer game that isn't K&M heavy will tend to get a console release. This has been going on for literally decades.

The fundamental problem with Steam is that it became a victim of its own success--what was supposed to bring the accessibility of consoles to the PC experience made the PC experience carry all the bullshit consoles have to deal with, and that's not okay.

>>377185178
>Valve was even slapped with a court case after one transgender employee alleged that her supervisor constantly referred to her as “it.”

>>377185178
Not saying valve is your ally but steam, and other providers for digital games are basically the only reason why long time console software producers like a majority of Japanese developers are personally or allowing production for PC ports.

Guilty Gear Xrd Rev 2 is going to be release only a few days behind consoles internationally, and I feel pretty confident that would not be a thing without steam.

>>377219075
Do we know how the case went? I doubt it'd happen, but I HOPE Valve loses. Jobs are gonna be dehumanizing because that's how capitalism works, but in the very least somebody shouldn't have to deal with abuse from their supervisors like that.

>>377219157
If anything that makes Valve even worse for bringing no substance garbage weebshit ports to PC

>>377219073
>The fundamental problem with Steam is that it became a victim of its own success--what was supposed to bring the accessibility of consoles to the PC experience made the PC experience carry all the bullshit consoles have to deal with, and that's not okay.

I don't understand. Please explain.

Steam was a thing before consoles got their digital distribution.

When's the last time Valve made an actual game and didn't just port a mod made by somebody else?

>>377219075

based supervisor. if you refuse to be a he or a she then you're an it. don't like it? then fuck off with your special snowflake 90 different gender pronouns shit.

>>377190360
Don't know how it is in other games, but I've notice that in TF2 matchmaking maps, no one but you can see your spray.

>>377219845
sv_pure 2 is the standard on all tf2 matchmaking servers now iirc. It's a bunch of fucking horseshit.

>>377185310
>We know this for a fact after Bethesda tried to force paid mods down our throat multiple times.
Fixed that for you. Valve was completely onboard for that shitshow because they got a nice cut for a system that is essentially Steam Workshop Premium, but it was all thanks to Bethesda wanting a cut from SkyrimNexus' modding community. The community, however, spoke pretty clearly about this and those few modders who decided to remove their public work so they could resell it on the new service got fucked so hard, they cry jizz.

>>377185662
>devs release broken unfinished games
>put the pressure of development on modders
>these act as unpaid employees
>worse than that they have to rotate money to the lazy devs while modders make meager earnings and more costs are unloaded to the consumer
And let's not even get into this can of worms which if allowed to pass creates a shit precedent in the real world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculative_work
Libertarians and corporatists are a cancer unto this world and should be hung from lamppost.

>>377219276
Go back to writing shitty clickbait polygon, you massive faggots

>>377186158
More like there is always cash grab garbage, and 90% of the good ones are all stolen code from the 10% of that 90%. The only way paying for mods could ever work would be if someone was already making good mods, and couldn't support themselves financially to finish them. Nobody is going to be a publisher for a modder, and nobody wants to pay for an unfinished mod, so who the fuck is this supposed to benefit? People who already have good mods created, and/or the people who steal them and take credit.

>>377185662
Please consider suicide.

>>377185178
gabe is literally trumpler

>>377219650
Before Steam, PCs were far less plug and play, lots of non-standard installations, issues you had to fix yourself, a wide range of DRM (insert the CD or not), while consoles were plug and play. Steam brought over the console experience with an easier way to buy games, an easier way to sort and organize and play games, and just made the experience a whole lot nicer. It didn't just grow solely because Half-Life 2 needed it.

>>377207724
>amount of mobile phone users increase as browsing technology gets better
>amount of mobile phone users about the same as people who use their desktop computers, as if these people have both desktops and phones
Really morphins my endorphins

>>377193424
>it's forced
No it's not.

>forced DRM down peoples throats, only 09ers wanted steam
>strongarmed all devs to put it on steam or they'll fail
>steam's own servers are already ass, but now most devs use steamworks so if steam ever goes down for whatever reason or they go bust, a majority of games become useless
>early access' existance
>brought the age of cosmetics with full force
>ruined several games by focusing mainly on cosmetics than actual balances and patches
what a great company :)

>>377221068
Except after Bethesda pulled out after they realized, Valve is the only one still trying to push it.

So it's pretty clear who's at fault here.

>>377198835
Music does fine even in that environment, piracy killing industry is a spook. Sorry if some publisher can't buy three new yatchs every time they put out a game.

>>377189176
>>377188870

Holy shit you are retarded, kys underage fuck.

They're not wrong.

It's a business that saw a gap in the market and exploited it full force, along with some really good marketing. But it's still a billion dollar business, and they've increasingly shown that they don't give a flying fuck, now that they don't have to try anymore.

Look at the alternatives. You can't make steam care without decreasing their market share.

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>>377185178
> there are people posting in this thread right now that defend online drm and monopoly on pc.

>>377222535
Most likely Americans. They're the only people brainwashed enough to embrace this your boss/ a company is your friend mental illness.

>>377222535
>monopoly on pc.
Lmao

>>377185662
If the guy that did Neotokyo added a SWAT-like singleplayer campaign, I would pay for it. CyberSWAT 4. I didn't pay for a videogame for 4 years now and counting.

>>377222989
It's kind of sad that the only competitors are also the worst cancers to ever fall on gaming.

If Valve is still in good graces, it's because compared to the oppositing, even a turd looks like solid gold.

>>377207724
At least say /pol/ and not some Reddit board nigga

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>>377222878
True, murrifats truly are retarded and any opinion that might shed some doubt on their tiny little minds is instant-communism

>>377222989
murrifat detected

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I wonder who could be behind this """"""""""""article""""""""""""

>>377185662
>Practically all of the first paid mods were straight up plagiarized & trying to get money for other people's work

Yeah, sure.

I just wish that you could actually get a boxed PC game nowadays, with the game actually on the disc.

Buying a digital only for a game I genuinely care about just feels kind of wrong. Seriously considering importing some boxes Japanese PC releases that have come out digital only on Steam.

>>377185178
100% correct statement.

>>377189187
Steam Guard was fine until they made all that phone shit mandatory to do fucking anything.
Then it stopped being fine.