If he right, and more importantly how do we get Gabe to stop

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>linking to polygon

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>>377182646
Guess Microsoft is stepping up the marketing to distract from their recent massive security breach and the upcoming release of 10 S.

If they think Valve is a monopoly they aint seen nothing yet.

>>377182646
>polygon

Unless they have an exclusive reveal they are fucking trash.

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>>377182646
>polygon link
AAAHAHAHA HAHAHAAA AHAAAAAA
kill yourself

Joke's on you; I'm sane enough to not consider companies "friends" and thanks to regional pricing Steam has cheaper prices compared to Origin, GMG or even GOG.

>>377182646
>valve is not your friend

only retarded redditors ever praised "le lord gabeN xd"

>steam is not healthy for gaming

maybe, but I(and everyone not mentally handicapped) still want everything in one place. i guess gaming will have to suck it.

>>377182646
>conclusion predicated upon someone at valve calling a tranny "it"

Yeah, that and a profit motive does not evil make.

>reposting the same thread
>polygon
Desperate shills are desperate

Gimme a pastebin or fuck off shill

>>377182891
Man, I wish I could spit Microsoft CEO and stockholders in the face.

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>>377182646
I'm not particularly fond of Steam's DRM, but I don't miss the old days of having to hunt down day 1 patches or deal with driver level copyprotection systems like Starforce and TAGES shitting my system up.

Of course, here in clapistan, the consumer has absolutely no rights whatsoever when it comes to digital purchases. Valve, Apple, Amazon, and whoever else are free to screw you whenever they like. They just don't because they have a reputation to protect and don't want to collude out in the open. If all the digital account stores decided to start charging rent for access on top of selling games, there isn't much the consumer can do other than buy physical.

>>377182646
Its not the best thing for it but god damn theres ao much worse out there right now

I always try and go GoG whenever I can, Humble Bundle after that if they have a DRM free version.
But Steam has too many exclusives, especially because I like weeaboo games.

I buy games from Steam (and GoG) because they're the best supported stores that have games for GNU/Linux.

All the other stores tend to be win32 only, which at this point makes them not a wise investment because they'd only be playable for me on the Windows tablet work gave me, and Windows is going Windows Store UWP-only in the future.

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>>377182646
>linking to polygon
why is this allowed?

>the same website that said "gamers are evil cis white privileged assholes and should be killed for supporting refunds"

And you not only have the nerve to link to them, but agree with them ontop of it?

>>377183545
Bring it up with hiroshima and ask him to change "polygon" into "fake news"

>>377182646
>Polygon

But yes, Valve is just a corporation now.

>>377183714
he doesnt even run this place though

there's still filters on /v/ from years ago for no reason

there's some high ranking mods that just are in charge of certain parts of the site

>>377182646
Gaben was looking less fat a few months ago but he got fat again. I thought he was on a diet or something, i guess that's the price of being billionaire, you can regain all your weight in a matter of weeks by eating the tastiest food money can buy.

>>377183703
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day
Just kidding OP is a fag and should go back

>>377182646
If you're anti-steam, you're anti consumer, simply because Steam has the absolute lowest prices on games by virtue of most keys resold on key reseller sites being Steam keys. Polygon can go fuck itself along with other distribution platforms that sell not only literal nothing, but OVERPRICED NOTHING.

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>>377183081
its more of

id trust steam over EA's origin, ubisoft's shit, and other such places.

Obviously everyone wants things all on one platform, and steam already does that. Everyone else is doing it cause they are greedy, not for your benefit.

EA went on record for thinking sales diminish the value of their products, that you should pay a premium when getting things online since its easier than going to the store, and many other AWFUL ANTI CONSUMER BULLSHIT.

would you really wish they had the monopoly?

If it was up to EA
>base games would sell for $80+
>games would never go on sale, always full price
>DLC will also cost $80 dollars
>you'd have to give them money all the time even if you don't buy their game.
>if you don't, they'd throw you in jail for stealing

you have to remember some companies are just real fucking scumbags ran by the most greedy corporate mother fuckers.

steam may have been all over the place, but it hasn't been as awful as what EA would be from the get go.

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>>377182646
>Valve is bad for the industry
>t. Polygon

>>377183905
You sound like a faggot
Steam is cancer and if it died out I would celebrate their games library going to GOG

That's true, however that applies to everyone including Origin and Polygon.

Living in Australia, steam is nothing more than a delivery platform to me; the prices are higher here, they're charged to us in USD so we pay at the current exchange rate with conversion fees, and coming this year our government is implementing a tax on online purchases which adds another 10% to the price. We're almost paying double on certain games.

So I buy my stuff from key stores like GMG and activate them on steam. But if we're talking about Gabe in particular, that fat sack of shit burned all his goodwill when he stopped developing video games.

>>377183081
>maybe, but I(and everyone not mentally handicapped) still want everything in one place.

This is pretty much the only reason I continue to use Steam over other services, inertia. If someone made a neutral platform that devs could make a plugin for to allow their games to download to (For example, adding a plugin that connects the program to your marketplace which causes your games to show up for purchase and download) would cause me to drop steam since steam would simply be a function contained within that master program. Even better, it would drive down the cost of games somewhat since Steam wouldn't take a 30% cut for selling your product directly (Assuming you have your game on your own marketplace.).

It's funny how much more pro-consumer Origin is compared to Steam. The only thing people can bash it for is for not being Steam.

>>377184005
You sound like a shitter with no arguments supporting literal cancer that killed off abandonware sites and is selling literal air to the mentally insane mongoloids like you. But it's OK, it's not like you or your shit literal who distribution platform matter anyway, LMAO.

>>377183042
Why print a piece if you arent going to take that opinion...

>>377182891
>decide to update because microsoft would just bother me all the time like they did when win10 was crated
>all of my files open in weird places
>gifs are opened in internet explorer
i fucking hate microsoft i should've got Linux

>>377183703
> "gamers are evil cis white privileged assholes and should be killed for supporting refunds"
are you denying the validity of that statement?

>>377183921
>would you really wish they had the monopoly?
I pick the third option and wish there wasn't a monopoly.

I don't mind using different clients for my games as long as they are all pro-consumer.

Steam is the only platform of games that isn't constantly broken or anti-consumer. If Steam somehow died, EA and jewbisoft would make their platforms anti-consumer as fuck within a year

>>377184032
Holy fuck everything I hear about Australia sounds fucking awful.

>>377184150
Have you never seen an opinion piece on any type of newspaper, magazine, or website before?

>>377184092
see
>>377183921

origin is extremely anti consumer, the only thing they've done is allow you to get refunds, but they'd probably disallow that too if they didn't get the golden turd award 10 times as well as get called out on how evil the fucking are 24/7.

now they are constantly in damage control trying to appeal and gain the sheeple's trust.

you have to be under a rock to forget this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ

>>377183254
Honestly, I go in assuming whatever I buy on Steam might not be permanent and seek to decouple whatever I buy over time. It's not really a bad trade considering it used to be $8 to rent something for 3 days at Blockbuster and now instead I get to keep it "permanently," though I don't buy $60 games. I've got several games with the steam API removed that allow them to be played standalone just because I don't want to take the risk that my account will be shut out one day.

Doesn't work for every game though, particularly those who have steamworks so integrated into their programming they don't function right without it. But even Half-Life 2 can be forked with the source code to strip out steam entirely.

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>>377184140
>no arguments
>proceeds to spout a bunch of buzzword bull shit and ends with LMAO
Yeah no retard physical games are superior to your lord Gabens bullshit and if you have to buy digital then buy DRM free.
Not that it matters to me faggot I pirate everything that isn't multiplayer that I wanna play.

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>>377184231
its unavoidable you nigger.

its like saying i'd rather pick having NO disease at all in the world, or no hunger, or no government.

like you fucking are gonna have one so why the fuck pretend like you can have none at all.

>>377182646
>polygon
Aaaand there goes any chance this had of being taken seriously by anyone.

>>377182857
I never really understood this controversy, I just assumed the person was used to playing fps on PC and got a console review copy and was just shit because controller. Which is understandable.

>>377184414
>I pirate everything
And thus everything you say automatically goes into the trash. Neck yourself, piratecuck.

>>377182646
>Oy vey da steam users aren't getting jew'd like console users, how dare dose goyim have a free service with discounted games.

>>377184373
Teach me your ways, fåm. I want to start backing my Steam library.

>>377182646
>>377184092
Is Origin and Uplay sales in a slump recently or is there going to be another steam clone launching?

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>>377184415
>its unavoidable you nigger.
Why would you say that?

>its like saying i'd rather pick having NO disease at all in the world,
What an awful analogy; you might as well compare it to food. A closer analogy would be a service provider like an ISP, which there are multiple of.

Only two things need to happen to open Gabe's anus:
1] Other companies need to work together or expand their platforms.
2] Government mandate.

That's it.

>>377182646
Steam, created roughly 12ish years ago provides a platform for indie devs to easily enter the gaming market

meanwhile EA has been buying and gutting devs for decades.

>steam is not your friend

yea, no, fuck off.

>>377182646
Reminder that Polygon took a 500k check from Microsoft.

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>>377184494
Being this booty blasted
Pic related, it's you ya dumb queer

>>377184616
For each game you download, there's usually a corresponding crack released within a few months or years. It's particularly easy to get one for older games, but for newer ones, you might have to wait a bit and sort through some fakes to get what you're looking for.

I've got a fileserver that I just store all my downloaded copies on, it's about 6TB in total.

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>>377182646
>Describing a company as profit-first

What the fuck company isn't? And did they think the only reason that Origin is hated is because it's EA and not because it has the quality of your average EA product?

>>377184092

Origin is run by EA, one of the worst gaming companies to exist. Valve is less evil by comparison, if only because Valve hasn't killed off multiple gaming companies and franchises.

>inb4 steamfag I pirate most of my stuff

GOG is better than Steam but everything else is FAR worse than Steam.

>>377183254
The only DRM steam has is the check when you buy it, everything else is up to the publisher/developer.

It's exactly the same as GoG's galaxy client, you don't get access to every game on GoG unless you pass the buy check ;)

>>377184806

have you taken a look at the steam store ever?

>>377184836
Don't talk sense in a shitposting thread friendo

>>377184806
He's not wrong in that looking only at Origin, it's definitely pro-consumer. However that's only because people have finally caught on that EA is literally the devil.

>>377184692
You can't pretend it's entirely altruistic, but it's certainly the best place to get recognition for a product. You've got to pay a sizable amount of sales to place a product on Steam, 30% to be exact.

For reference, licensing UE4 is only 10% of your revenue, and having your game on GoG is 8% I think.

>>377184836
GOG is just an online store, everyone else is like this platform or something.

Honestly GOG is the best thing cause the rest are bloatware, botnets, and spyware.

>>377184467
there's a difference between being shit (which is expected of game journalists) and almost dying to the very first enemy in the game

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>>377184373
Steam only got as far as it did since it operates on the tenuous promise from Gabe that if the service ever dies, he will hit the magic button that lets you de-Steam your games.

Then you have Games For Windows Live, which actually did shit the bed and die. Microsoft's response to all the broken games it produced? A shrug.
Many publishers were kind enough to offer a Steam code exchange, but the damage was done.

Microsoft just has to say "lol 25%" instead of everyone else's 30% and everyone will jump ship.

>>377184985
>Then you have Games For Windows Live, which actually did shit the bed and die

GFWL still functions properly in many games that used it's service, lots of stuff just moved away from it is all.

Lost Planet 2, Dead Rising 2, and probably more games than that all still work online through GFWL.

>>377184945
GOG could expand into a Steam-like thing once they get enough cash, do what Steam does but better.

>>377184985
Pretty much. You can't rely on a defunct company keeping their word. From an obvious standpoint, a company going out of business has about zero interest in their customers at that point, who are about to not be customers at all.

You've got to go in to online marketplaces with that line of thinking. A particularly bad example would be Nintendo, which can't even figure out how to carry over your games between platforms.

>>377185134
They already have Galaxy but who would want that?
The whole point is to just download the game I wanna play and update and then not have to deal with GOG until I want the next game

>>377184992
Not when a huge chunk of the userbase is still on Win7. Not to even mention how horrible the windows store is and all the lost sales from people who refuse to use it

>>377185134
>>377184992
>>377184945
The biggest hurdle for any competitor is publicity / usage. Steam is THE biggest platform on PC right now and you can be sure that if your game/mod/content gets on there, people WILL see it. Whether or not this makes up the 30%-80% cost for hosting is a different matter.

If an up-and-coming company can somehow draw in devs and publishers and users, they have a base to grow from and compete. Currently only GoG is even remotely close but they aren't ambitious at all.

>>377184945
GOG has no games.
What's the point of a store without products to sell?

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There's a lot of posts about Steam DRM and what terrible things Gabe could do with the user agreement, but probably never will because there isn't a reason to. At this point, it's just paranoia or corporate phobia

Valve makes a shitload of money from a huge community that doesnt mind handing over millions for virtual items and transaction fees, and/because they run the best client. They dominate the market by being better. Can anyone say they regret steam replacing Games for Windows Live? the single shittest DRM in existence. In reality you don't notice the Steam DRM at all, and it's the best and cheapest store client. You can even refund purchases for literally any reason, what more do people want

>>377182891

I disabled forced updates a long time ago, who /still on 7/ here? I tried downloading B&N Nook reader to rip some books, fucking jews made the app Windows Store-only.

>>377185481
>B&N Nook reader
Use Calibre you nerd

>>377184276
Its a deathworld. The pro is that if you were born of aussie blood you could bantz like no other and poison is inconvienant instead of fatal.

>>377184985
That's why I pirate everything I purchase.
Even if Valve goes bankrupt I'm not losing the games.

>Then why did you buy them in the first place?
Because I want to support certain developers and genres. Also, multiplayer.

>>377182646
Polygon is not your friend and gabe's fatness is unhealthy for him.

>>377184203
there is no validity in that statement. fuck off.

>>377184916
>>377184092

yeah nah, origin only appears pro consumer, everything behind it is anti consumer as fuck and they are waiting at the chance to get away with it without all the backlash they got the dozen times they tried before.

Why do that to yourself and pretend origin is good?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-06-david-demartini-origin-wants-to-be-the-hub

did you chuckle fucks forget who the fuck runs that shit?

Literally:
"Q:One of the things that Steam does is this random deep-discounting of software, and it works well for them. Do you see that as something you want to do?

David DeMartini: We won't be doing that. Obviously they think it's the right thing to do after a certain amount of time. I just think it cheapens your intellectual property."

i mean there is a lot of stuff out there, and they got blown the fuck out multiple times over this kind of stuff.

They only APPEAR pro consumer cause they've been shit on so much.

>>377185479
I have a few problems with the steam client, but they're not too major yet, and often due to poor thought on a developer's part.

For example, some games don't allow you to run a dedicated server decoupled from Steam, so you have to have a second account to do so and still play, even when on another PC. And there's a definite issue when I'm trying to play games on the go -- no more easy to slap something on a flash drive and play it on another PC, nor is there a lightweight mode that doesn't launch a steam service as a separate process, instead simply running a tiny version of it in the back of a game.

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>>377183254
The price of games is adjusted to market, you charge something absurd like exclusive purchasing 'rights' you're shooting yourself in the foot. The console market is still more lucrative than PC, micro-transactions seem to be floating most AAA titles and in my naive opinion it seems like ports are getting enough sales to start being more regular.

I think we'll see more carrot than stick tactics with steam as they can appear extremely generous with very little actual cost to themselves, being that they are literally gods of a micro economy.

>>377184681
no it wasnt a bad analogy, it is that you are given existing choices and you would rather pick a nonexistant never to happen 3rd choice.

kill yo self

>>377182646
It may not be my friend, but it isn't my enemy.
That'll do for me.

How many of you will still sing Valves praises when Gabe brings back paid mods?

>>377182646
>Steam is not healthy for gaming
>Having a single platform that the majority of PC games new and old are sold, automatically update, cloud saves and free online with steam sales delivering prices that blow physical store prices out of the water with the feature of being able to refund your games because you just simply felt like it isn't healthy for the game industry.

>>377182646

nice paid shilling by sony
this obviously means sony is mad has fuck and is losing sales

its funny, because its pathetic

>>377185962
I won't but I'd suck his dick for eternity for Ricochet 2

>>377182646
How assbrained do you have to be to link Polygon DIRECTLY?

Just remove this thread or replace the link with a web archive or pastbin

>>377182646
>companies are not your friends

neither are garbage game "journalists"

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>>377186000
>monopolies are good now

>>377185562

You still have to download the ebooks from the B&N servers, which requires the app, right?

>>377186000
Steams prices for new games can't compete with a physical discount that comes with Amazon Prime

>>377184467

The controversy is that Polygon employs people who don't play videogames and know nothing about videogames but think they know what's good for gaming

>>377186000
Interestingly enough, digital only is the main reason why I haven't been able to convince any of my videogame-playing coworkers to jump into PC gaming

>Why would I pay full price to rent a game when I can buy the physical game and do whatever I please with it?

>>377182646
the only reason polygon hates gabe is because he btfo a tranny

>>377186163
https://the-digital-reader.com/2015/06/25/how-to-add-a-nook-drm-removal-plugin-to-calibre/

>>377185737
Discounting software is amazing for the consumer, but does decrease the overall revenue of gaming as a whole. With the advent of steam sales, everyone expects games to eventually be $20, $10, or even $5 after a year or so, meaning whatever game you make doesn't retain any real value. Nintendo, for example, takes the opposite approach and usually retains their starting prices for many of their games and has very few sales. For myself, it just means I'm more reluctant to buy them, but if all companies did that, it would mean more money for devs and thus more reinvestment (Even after a publisher takes a sizable cut).

Now, because of the drastic decrease in prices over time, more devs are switching to a DLC model or a service model to attempt to recoup costs. Every-so-often, this has drastic results with beloved franchises becoming gutted abominations. Not saying this wouldn't happen without sales, I just think that if a piece of software continued to sell at a high price point, it would occur less.

>>377184282

Have you never seen an organization refuse to publish the views of a contributor because it reflects poorly on them? I have. It's what you do because believe it or not, if you pay someone and print their message in your publication you are actually responsible for what they're saying. News papers are not public organizations they are private enterprises.

>>377184467
>Which is understandable.
No it isn't. You're reviewing a videogame as your job, the job you're being paid for, not playing drunk with friends.
If you can't handle the console version, give the review to someone who can.

>>377186291

Oh thanks. I tried an older version of the nook reader, but it wouldn't let me download the book unless I updated. I'll try this.

>>377186189
>steam prices can't compete with these prices I pay monthly for
Ok then

>>377186160
>It's unfair that Steam got to the top by working on it's client and understanding customers over many years
>Nobody is allowed to to make their own Steam like store

>>377183921
Valve just knows how to properly boil a frog.

>>377186213
What do you do with your physical games other than install on your system?

>>377186425
My favorite thing is when they beat the game on easy and bitch about the ending then get BTFO when people catch on

>>377186349
>everyone
When it comes to new releases, I buy day one, full price if I'm interested enough.
Stop generalizing.

>>377185962
My only problem with paid mods is simply that Valve/Publisher simply takes too high of a cut from them. If I were to create a mod, I would not sell it for $5 if I were only getting 50c a sale. Even as a consumer, that just means I'm lining a host's pocket and not encouraging more mods to be made.

If mods for money happens again, it needs at least a 70%/30% split for the modders. There also needs to be protections for those who claim mods they didn't make and sell them on Steam without the creator's knowledge.

>>377186425
The way that thing was lurching I genuinely thought the bell end was playing on a laptop and using the trackpad.

>>377186496
I called it a monopoly, not unfair.

>>377186349
Games get most of their sales within the first month after coming out. Steam is actually making them more money with sales to sell to people who can't afford buying full price games

>>377186472
I'm sorry you don't have a free student account and can't see why 20% off for a physical copy is superior to paying full price for a rental

>>377186546
I'm talking about console games:

Play them
Resell them
Borrow them to friends
More important of all, the online store can't take the disk away from you.

>>377184282
why won't they publish my own opinion then?
because any type of newspaper, magazine, or website won't simply publish any kind of opinionated moron's words and wash their hands off any responsibility.
they might not stand by that author's wordsw, but they are offering their space and public to grant attention to that opinion. they wouldn't do so if they didn't consider it to be worthy of their website's reputation.
to so readily embrace such a shitty "wake up sheeple" edgy piece speaks volumes about them, specially in a time when we're nearing E3 to start shitting on specific companies

>>377186632
I'd be more behind this.
Papa Gabe can get a cut, sure, but I'd want my cash to be mostly going to the mod-ho doing the work.

alright, fine. ill concede. no more steam.
how do i get all my games off of it, huh?

>>377186692
Well yeah, I'm not a child anymore so I don't get these student handouts

>>377186680
That and more money over the games lifetime every time there's a sale and a older game get's a jump start with it's something like 10 dollars with all the DLC.

>>377186680
Obviously, they're trading long term profit for short term. Cheap games drive down the cost of other similar games, making gaming less lucrative and less of an investment as a whole.

That's not to say that's bad for the consumer up front, it's just that down the line people are going to expect cheaper games, and when people expect that, it's hard to make ambitious titles that cost more or retain their value.

>>377186849
And yet you don't see why people would have Amazon Prime for things that aren't gaming related then get an added bonus for gaming.
You sure you aren't a child?

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>>377182646
>polygon calling anything not healthy for gaming
>when they themselves are one of the worst gaming """journalism""" websites out there

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>>377182646
I think most of /v/ has recognized that Steam has become cancer.

>>377186692
>not simply waiting for a 50% off or higher sale like any human being with a fully functional brain
>settling for 20% off but still buying at full MSRP because MUH RELEASE DATE HYPE
good goyim

>>377186632
Paid mods are never going to be good. Steam is never going to put enough effort into shifting through all the cash grab mods or stolen mods for the system to work

I don't need stores to be "platforms." I just need them to sell me games. I can keep a folder full of shortcuts on my own.

>>377182646

friendly reminder that Polygon was started with Microsoft money.

>>377187029
they could simply have the users curate the system, just like they're doing for public reviews. Nowadays I trust them more than the website review scores.

The only fucking reason Steam has a monopoly is because not a single other service on the PC platform comes even remotely close to as beneficial for the consumer as Steam is. Not a single fucking one. That's not Valve's fault, that's the market trying to jump on the bandwagon and catch whatever flies they can grab without actually trying to compete. It's not Valve's fault that Origin, UPlay, and whatever the fuck other platforms are terrible. Origin at one point installed fucking viruses onto your rig, but we're just going to call Valve the bad guys because they're winning. Get the fuck outta here.

>>377187029
It's pretty simple for cash grabs, community ratings will drop them so far down the list of mods to make them worthless. I can't say how they'd fix stolen mods though, I would not want to have to register my mod with Steam just to provide some protection against having some chucklefuck pick it off my site and repackage it for sale.

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OP, I detest Polygon and Steamcucks with a passion. Who exactly am I supposed to support here?

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>Valve is not your friend, it's a corporation out to make money
Well no fucking shit, sherlock.

>>377182646
I never considered them my friend. I just enjoy the low prices and convenience. Their games are generally solid, too. Have a good product and I'll support you. Pretty simple.

The only reason I consider Steam over piracy is because I get to support the tiny indie devs, and bragging rights.

>>377187015
Yeah it's a much better idea to wait until the community for a game is dead so I can save money on my rental rather than owning physical, playing day one and letting my friends borrow it and play and in the end being able to resell it if I choose to recoup even more money.
Didn't think that one through did you retard?

>>377182646
I never consider Steam and Gabe as my friends, but I always consider Polygon as garbage, so as anyone quote their articles.

>>377187209
gog because you don't need to use their download app

>>377182646
This article's a couple years late. Remember when people worshipped Gabe?

>>377184467

http://www.deepfreeze.it/outlet.php?o=polygon

here's some more reasons to hate them

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>______ is bad for ______
>sincerely, tabloid-tier "newsblog"

>>377187353
Sadly, some still do. Fuck Polygon though.

>>377186291

Yeah, like I thought it won't even synchronize the library. Thanks anyway though.

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>>377184373
I do the same thing, anon. Got a decent VPN and started backing up my steam-only games. So far I've backed up:

TES: Oblivion
Skyrim
New Vegas
FO4
Dow Soulstorm
Medieval 2

And I bought a bunch more over GoG. Probably going to download Arkane Studios games next, seeing as I've already bought them all

>>377187270
>muh community
so you literally only play MP games, ever?
>muh friends
you buy shit already thinking of sending it away to others for god knows how long? and somehow the resell value will stay fresh?
>reselling
I bet that game is a blast if you already come in thinking of getting rid of it before you're even going to buy it

>>377187270
You don't need a community for single player games

>>377184467
That's still an awful excuse. I play FPS games like 90% of the time on PC but can still adapt to using a controller above the level of a toddler playing video games for their very first time.

>>377187432
Wow I hate Polygon but this site is kinda autistic

>>377182646
Why are they concerned about Valve and not Microsoft who already has a total monopoly on PC gaming?

Steam, like every service that doesn't let you own the thing you buy is bad for the consumer.
You can only play or watch it it until the service dies or their license for the product runs out, the product can be taken awy from you at any time, yet you still get charged full price.

>>377182646
I bet this guy has an article defending some console for doing the same shit he's attacking Valve for.

>>377182646
and valve is still better then EA and Ubishit.

Valve earnd its place on #1 spot.

Never I had any problems with valve or with the products. Fuck I love valve even more after calling the degenerates by its proper description "IT"

God bless valve, god bless gabe newell.

>If he right
He's not. What that little commie overlooks is that "for-profit" is kind of the name of the game in capitalism. Steam overs a service that so far no one else has toppled. No other company has managed to conglomerate and offer the customer such a wide variety of vidya on a single platform in such a way. What Steam is now is leagues better than what it was, and it still has room for improvement.

Is it perfect? No, of course not. They have to make money too. So of course they pull their own various amounts of bullshit to make that dollar. But again, who are their competitors? Origin? Yeah, the service that installed viruses on your computer and is rife with EA's scams and anti-consumerism and not to mention EA only games. UPlay? Well see Origin but somehow shittier with a user UI that was seemingly designed with contempt for humankind in mind. Microsoft? Oh that's fucking rich, yeah here comes Microsoft and their "Apps" to just take over the marketplace by any way other than force. GOG? They're not even a competitor, it's a bunch of Slavs trying to make sure older games don't die off into obscurity by at least offering them on a marketplace.

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>>377182646
>kotaku

>>377187894
and EA and ubishit and all others.

Success breeds jealousy

>>377183254
>or deal with driver level copyprotection systems like Starforce and TAGES shitting my system up.

Before Denuvo caught on there were still games that used those while only being available through Steam.

>>377187270
how to stop the impulsebuy faggot
>muh community! I absolutely need a community for everything I play, even for single player games, gotta enjoy le hype and see everyone talking about it on the internets!
>I'm saving a lot back if I resell it! screw getting it for 50, 75, even 80% digital, I can finish my 200 hour JRPG so fucking fast, lend it to Jimmy so he can get the disc all scratched and dirty with Cheetos, then I'll still be able to sell it back for sixty bucks at Craigslist!

>>377184467
If it is your job to be a plumber, you better know your way around every tool you need to plumb. A person given the task to review a video game should be able to use a controller. The problem is that they hire people who clearly dont play video games and yet they are given the right to influence peoples opinion about video games. Having a journalism job means that you understand the subject matter, otherwise you are not qualified to speak on it.

The reason Steam doesn't go full anti-consumer is because they have no stock holders to please. Gaben already has enough money so he doesn't have to go full jew on everything

>>377188079
*spot

>>377187579
>only play MP
No? But the majority of games I buy have MP
>friends hold onto your games for god knows how long
If I've beaten it then they can take their time but most of my friends don't suck at games so it usually only takes until the next week or two and if it's really good they will probably pick it up and play with me
>already thinking about getting rid of it
If I CHOOSE to you fucking idiot and let's be honest if the game is only worth a few playthroughs then what's wrong with reselling?
Again try to think things through before posting

>>377182857
I do love how we just have instant reminders for this shit. God's work anon God's work.

>>377188125

Also because they got absolutely raped in European courts. They didn't even offer refunds until they got sued into the ground.

>>377188079
When was the last time a steam sale had a deep discount on something that wasn't already on deep discount the last steam sale?
Every steam sale thread is filled with people bitching about it being more of the same.
If you really are so broke you can't afford a game until it's on a deep discount then just pirate it you unbelievable faggot.

>>377188213
there's nothing wrong with reselling, but arguing that reselling physical games is that big of a deal is silly, most digital games I've got were for literally less than 10 bucks and no way in hell I'd rather pay the same price for a shitty scratched disc that's already been through 3 owners or more.

>>377186995
how so? cheap games, huge liberally of games to chose from, indi titles.

DRM you will have one way or the other so theirs no legal way around it.

>linking to polygon

be gone you shill.

And that article is fucking ridiculous. If valve hadn't done it gamestop or EA would own the marketplace and be 100x worse. Steam has issues, but it was pivotal in bringing PC gaming to where it is today.

All I'm seeing here is "whoa, our hits are low today. Let's cook up some controversy and fix that."

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>>377182646
>how do we get Gabe to stop being so fucking fat?
stop him eating 'nabe'

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>>377182891
You can just disable this via system settings. The setting exists solely to keep your retard family/siblings from installing adware from free software websites and opening suspicious looking EXEs.

>>377188383
They could have only done it for Europe. I bet EA would have done so if Steam didn't do it first for everyone

>>377188438
I'm not even saying it's a big deal but it is a nice option.
The scratched disc is a pathetic straw man I'm not a child who can't take proper care of a game and neither are my friends. Otherwise why would I lend them anything?

>>377186160
They dont have a monopoly. Thats where you wrong kid.

There is Ubisoft and Origin and Microsoft.

Who offers the best system will earn the most, such is the way of capitalism.

>>377182646
lmao the main reason polygon has a problem with Steam is because they have no authority there. This is basically a power play desperately trying to grasp at relevance.

I fear for the day that the fat fuck dies. That is the day that steam becomes a full faceless corp entity.

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>>377182646
>literally won't make HL3 and literally admitted that they won't because they're making too much money with hats and shit.

>>377184945
GOG sells overpriced garbage, because nobody resells GOG keys. GOG is shit by definition.

>>377188717
Same. I'm sure it will get real shitty in a few years following gabes death

>>377188402
>When was the last time a steam sale had a deep discount on something that wasn't already on deep discount the last steam sale?
>Every steam sale thread is filled with people bitching about it being more of the same.
these are just the richfags and spoiled brats who want new shit to get the same discount as the older games, it's ridiculous.
anyone whining that CoD WWII isn't 50% off in the winter sale this year is just being an obtuse shitposter.
>If you really are so broke you can't afford a game until it's on a deep discount
who said anything about being broke? why is it absolutely necessary to pay so much for a game instead of waiting for a decent sale? just because I have sixty bucks in my pocket right now it doesn't mean I should drop it for the game immediately, unless I have literally nothing else to play.

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Odd, they put "Valve" and "Steam" where they should have put "Polygon".

Valve removed the ability to submit support tickets for their games. The ticket system is for steam only. If you attempt to submit a ticket for a game, they direct you to the community forums.

There is absolutely no support for Valve games anymore. What the fuck. Also they keep fucking shuffling the workshop content directories around. Shits changed like three times already.

>>377188717
true
>>377188740
Or the hype is just to big and they cant satisfie it.

Just think about duke nukem how it fuckt up.

Just wait for valve develop a new engine pushing the limits further and using HL3 as flagship showcasing it.

>>377188679
you're probably right

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>>377184175
It's never too late to switch. Watching the windows shitshow from this side of the fence is pretty amusing

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>>377188883
They literally admitted that it was because their too profitable right now. However in that case the fans are to blame because they keep buying the micro transaction shit that's making steam so rich right now.

They also said they wouldn't release it due to fear of fans disliking it(like you mentioned.)


But still, what's left? I never even played HL all that much but as a person who waited 7 fucking years for a sequel to Golden sun 2 I can empathize.

>>377188928
He is right and wrong. The articles makes good points like Valve absolutely fucking over Hat makers for more profit in their own games.

>>377188634
>The scratched disc is a pathetic straw man
oh really? something that is absolutely possible as long as we're dealing with literally any physical media? holy shit anon aren't you looking silly right now
why are you bringing up your own habits of taking care of your shit? you and your friends aren't the only ones filling up bargain bins and ebay listings

>>377182646
>screen cap
>link to click bait shit
wonder who

>if he's right
We've known Steam is cancer for a long time. There's just no alternative. DRM will never go away, so GOG can't compete, and I'm sure as shit not going to use anything developed by ubisoft or ea.

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>>377188872

>>377188967
Not him but there's a few programs I use that don't have linux compatibility, so I'm stuck with this bullshit for now.

>>377189156
Dual boot

skimming over it and seems like he is a mad jew that they don't have a monopoly on a certain service. he also tries to talk for all of pc gamers "we this we that"

>>377184175
I'm very very tempted to GPU passthrough and run windows in a VM

It'd have to wait until I've got a new computer, but I think it's a better option than sticking with windows as my OS. I'm getting sick of this microsoft bullshit

>>377183254
>there isn't much the consumer can do other than buy physical.

a lot of physical games still require you to connect to steamworks/uplay/origin even if you want to play offline so you'd have to just pirate or not play

>>377188109
You misunderstand the role of journalists anon

they aren't paid to inform the public, they're paid to lie to the public, misinform them, and spread propaganda and advertising under the guise of honest reporting

journalists are literally the scum of the earth and anyone who's ever EVER worked anywhere near these people can confirm this, not even lawyers are as bad as journalists

>>377189217
He is using good points to force an agenda. He is right in the fact that Steam is absolutely not your friend. They care as much for profit as any other company but the article was written with an agenda in mind.

>>377189048
I'm bringing up the fact that when properly taken care of discs almost never scratch. Is that silly?
Why wouldn't I bring up my own experiences when you are talking to me about my own practices?

>>377189156
Have dual boot ready, try the program in wine, if it won't work, try in a virtual machine and last resort is the actual operating system. For example I have an USB printer connected to my router and the router has propiertary software for printing through it so I transfer the documents to a VM and do it that way.

>>377188717
That's why GoG's my preferred option

They're already a faceless mook corp entity and they're providing what I want regardless, and even if they go full tilt soulless evil corp like everyone else, I still got all my games because there's no DRM.

Steam's gonna end up fucking people in the long run, so are origin and whatever other bullshit ea and microshit etc are stirring up

>>377182857
Arthur Guis doing us a favor and reminding us how shit polygon is

>>377189501
I might be too stupid for dual boots, wine, and VM use. I've never used Linux before.

>>377189114
GOG can't reach the same size as Steam, but not just because some companies aren't willing to sell their games without DRM but also because GOG themselves are faggots who reject legit games for the sake of "muh curation".
Their selective bullshit doesn't even make sense, you think they're against weeb stuff but then Neptunia and Agarest show up in their catalog.

>>377182646
>linking directly to polygon in the fucking OP

>>377189426
he is misinterpreting the lord gaben meme as that is mostly ironic. the illusion on infallible valve fell long ago and was never really a thing in the first place.

>>377189426
Skimming through the article. It just sounds like someone from EA that is mad about Origin not taking off because they don't understand the work that Steam has done to be the main client to get PC games from and that EA is a shit company jumping on the bandwagon with Origin when Steam proved successful.

>shit up some skinnes in a few days
>or make the community do them for you
>add them in a box/case/whatever
>get loads of money
>people who win the valvecasino put their special items on the steam market
>people buy said special items for 100s of bucks by adding money to their steam wallets
>get even more money for 0 effort

if you were valve right now, would you give a fuck and try to even shit out a game again? be honest

Valve hasn't been anyone's friend in years.

>>377189614
I would say that DRM is holding GOG back more than them being selective.

>>377185481

enjoy ransomware idiot.

>>377189694
skimming is my thing. revise this

>>377189694
>EA
More like Microsoft

>>377189470
>I'm bringing up the fact that when properly taken care of discs almost never scratch. Is that silly?
yes it is when we're talking about reselling games in general, as if we should presume all used games to be in good condition out there.
>when you are talking to me about my own practices?
how did you associate my example of a scratched disc belonging to at least three owners before to be talking about you specifically?

>>377187729
>Calling out a site for being autistic
>While being at /v/

>>377189702
The best thing valve could do is what they've been doing already and basically acting like a patron / publisher for promising games or mods

team fortress 2 and portal, 2 of valve's most successful games, were basically just indie titles/mods that valve put their money and expertise behind.

>>377189773
>implying you can get ransomware when you run Common Sense 2021

>>377189730
sure I'm not speaking for everyone but I've given up on buying loads of stuff to build a library there exactly because they've decided against selling shit I've got on Steam instead

>>377189148
It's mixed, then. I tried getting help with a workshop issue for L4D2.

>>377182646
GTFO Ben Kuchera

>>377189773
>he fell for it
lol

>>377182646
>pokemon go article
That "game" is still alive?

>>377189217
That bullshit about 30% percent cut is like most retarded argument since god-knows-when and people already figure out that every distributor takes the same amount. So it's doesn't really matter, you will lose even more money doing it by yourself or not getting enough advertisement to your shit, which will hurt sales even more. That retard doesn't even understand basics of publishing. All this is just to poke around and claim something stupid about someone big to get attention. Valve was changing game industry just by throwing a fart and become best corporation ever. Comparing to other scammers, those people should walk on the water and resurrecting dead.

>>377187209
The ginger girl with the DS

>>377189974
>author name is right there in the pic
dude I know Ben sucks but come on

>>377190095
Get off your fat ass and find out for yourself

>>377186729
Maybe if you didn't have crippling autism you'd understand that even if one person has those opinions in the company doesn't mean everyone holds them. Though that escapes you thus since one person may disagree with that persons opinions within the company they shouldn't publish it at all.

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are people seriously valvedroning or is it just polygon hateboner?

>>377189594
I'm understanding where you're coming from. When I started, I had trouble understanding what I'm supposed to do, messed with some system level files and had to reinstall. The best thing about it is that reinstall takes about 30 mins with all my config files still intact.

For example: Wine should not be installed from the official repos, it's on version 1.6 whereas the latest is 2.5. You should check most programs websites for what is the recommended installation method.

After installing wine .exe files work exactly like on windows except for minor graphical stuff or if the program makes hardware level calls.

>>377182646

He single-handedly destroyed Half-Life franchise and there is no way in hell he can hire the old talent again to make the game.

He knows very well if they ever try to making hl3 it will be ripped to shreds because it didn't hold up to the series.

>>377187432
At least Griffith McElroy and Nick seem to be pure...

>>377190164
Tim can stay for a minute and ponder his career choice, then GTFO

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>>377189967

>>377182646
Wrong title. It should be like this:
"Polygon is not your friend, and Polygon is no healthy fro gaming"

>>377190226
you're naive as fuck if you think the press simply opens up spaces for every joe in there who's got a flavor of the day piece of mind to drop

>>377182891
The creators update is the first time I've had to update my BIOS to make it compatible with a version of windows.

>>377190275
This, Half-Life 3 could literally be the best game in existence and it would still be ripped to shreds because it has the Half-Life name.

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>>377190267
But hey, atleast wannacrypt can work on linux through wine https://mobile.twitter.com/hackerfantastic/status/863359375787925505

>A company is not your friend
WOOOOOOW. You mean Sony and Nintendo aren't my bros? Surely you must be wrong. A lot of people defend companies, and the only reason for that is because they're your buddies.

are gamers the only kind of """"people"""" to befriend corporations?

>>377190248
Valve has it's problems but it's the best platform out there that nobody can compete with. Saying that it's not good for the industry and that it should move over for shit like Origin is retarded though.

>>377188576
I don't think you realize what Windows 10 S is

>>377190756
gog galaxy

>>377187729
>Wow I hate Polygon but this site is kinda autistic
why?
It seems like a full archive for corrupt journalists and what they did to be put on that list with links and descriptions.

Still, lets be honest, all you need to know is to avoid everything related to Polygon, Kotaku and Famitsu as those are the publications that show up in every gaming related controversy.
People give IGN a lot of shit, but fuck me, they are like a pillar of integrity compared to Polygon.

>>377190548
Get used to it. Microsoft is going to force hardware obsolescence so get ready to have to buy new CPUs every 3-4 years because the OS won't support the old ones and it will force itself to update and then be unusable.

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>>377182646
>linking to polygon

>>377190917
Gog is fine but the article brings up Origin like 6 times and gets all buttmad that people say Origin sucks.

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>>377183081
>only retarded redditors ever praised "le lord gabeN xd"
cope.

4chan has been on his cock for a long time. I used to get BANNED back in 2012 for criticizing valve. I'm talking week long bans time after time for making threads questioning their business practices.

>>377182646
>[company] isn't your friend
Stopthe presses

>>377191070
same shit is going down in the NeoFag thread, plenty of shills for Origin and Uplay when these are just a poor man's Steam acting as excuse to sell their exclusive EA/Ubisoft games in it that aren't listed on Steam
or in case of uPlay, force you to open it after opening Steam and run their games over both clients

>>377191286
the fact they're bringing this up as a Valve thing specifically with the Summer Sale and E3 right around the corner really activates my almonds

>>377191284
>every person /v/ has sent a giant card to back then has either died or been corrupted into massive faggotry

>>377182646
> polygon

And fuck you OP for directly linking to cancerous clickbait website.

>>377184836
GOG has piss number of games

>>377191284
to be honest, 2012 was a little too early for the sheeple to wake up since valve started "being good" around around 2010

>>377182646
That's true, but linking Polygon is still bannable offense.

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>>377182646
>polygon wants StarFORCE back
god help us all

I just hope you retards stop replying to sales threads literally made by shills to get you to buy garbage you'll never play

>>377182646
Gabe used to be your friend until he discovered everyones a complete retard and hates cool new things.
Now he's a bitter fat guy that wants to extract all resources from every retard possible.

>>377184467
I refuse to believe someone can be good at games on PC but unable to use a controller at all.

WHO'S HYPED FOR STEAM SALE COMING UP 22nd JUNE?!
I know I'm not

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>>377191859
I stopped doing that ages ago, I only buy jap games now

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B-b-but my games are all locked to my steam ccount, I c-cant just leave steam.

T-this isn't anti consumer or anything, s-steam sales, GabeN lol!!

h-help

>>377191790

>The only alternative to Steam is StarFORCE

anon pls

this thread is dying and no one will notice that I want to die, too
take me home country roads

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Get out now while you still can. I'm currently looking for someone to offload my account onto for a bit of coin then I'm done with steam.

I'm done with being abused by this anti-consumer trash.

>>377182646
Gaming is not healthy for people

>>377186160
>Microsoft has an Xbox monopoly
>Sony has a PlayStation monopoly
>Nintendo has a Switch monopoly
Do you realize how dumb you sound?

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>>377192021
Steam is literally what killed most DRMs. Publishers want protection for their products, and consumers want an easy place to purchase, store their games in one place and not have to worry about the old annoying shit like tracking down CD keys, the original discs, no cd cracks, patch mirrors, etc.

Steam fixed all of those problems and really isnt a bad DRM. And while starforce was one of the worst, its far from alone on the evil end of DRMs.

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>>377182646
fuck gaben and fuck pc player

>>377192228
nothing is inherently healthy
even breathing and drinking water requires acceptable conditions. drink dirty water or breathe polluted air and you get screwed.

>>377192332
>Valve created and owns PC gaming
Yep this is how I know I'm posting on /v/eddit, home of the nu-PC gamers

>>377192438
This is a good way to put it, yeah. Steam rising to popularity was inevitable. They had the perfect mix of good for producers and good for players.

The best system is one that is good enough for everyone, even if it's also shit for all of them.

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>>377182646

nigger i've been saying valve is shit for years. suddenly all the fanboys are thinking twice because some guy with a job makes an article on the internet.

humans are fucking dumb.

>>377186349
Why should games cost 60€ though? Movies have way bigger budgets and I pay half that for bluray copy and even less when seeing it first month in theatres.

>>377192646
>suddenly all the fanboys are thinking twice
that isn't how it's happening and you know it
No fanboys are reconsidering, nothing can make them reconsider. Everyone else is using the article to wack off what they already knew.

>>377192563
>a monopoly is when a company grows powerful enough to dominate a market that still has a sizable competition but none of them are competent enough to face it despite having craploads of money to do it, specially EA
this is how retarded you sound right now
a market with active competition going on doesn't somehow become a monopoly just because someone grows bigger than the others. claiming so basically boils down to monopoly being simply "he's more successful so it's unfair"

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>>377184276
It's actually super nice here. All the horrible stuff you hear about is an elaborate ruse to try and keep refugees away.

>>377192795
movie budgets go mostly towards CGI, famous actors and advertising, that's why their budgets are so inflated.
games have way more stuff to take care about during development. having all cutscenes "ready" is just half the work to make a game.

>>377192646
If Steam is so bad, what do you suggest we use instead, smartass?

>>377189594
It's a common theme among new linux users to reinstall the OS 4-5 times before they get it right.

Why not just using the Rate the Mod & Donate system?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=744552307

>>377193240
GOG you dipshit, it's almost as if Steam is the only thing some of you people know

>>377188402
>Previous sales on a 20 year backlog
>Current sale on the last 12 months of games + 20 year backlog

Gee, I wonder why it looks like only a fraction of the discounts is on new games

>>377193352
where are the games though?

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>>377193240

i don't have an answer for you because there really isn't anything else with the popularity and variety that steam has. honestly though, i don't own a lot of games on steam and never have. i was always a console gamer. the only reason i started using steam YEARS AGO, was because it was required in order to play half-life 2. the only games i have and play on steam, are valve games. everything else i buy for my consoles.

i know fanboys don't like to hear this and will attack me with it, but pc gaming is a joke anyway.

Get him diagnosed with diabeetus. I got type 2 two weeks ago and I've already dropped 4kg because I don't want my fucking feet cut off.

>>377182857
still cant believe they uploaded it them self
an entire video of the reviewer shooting at the floor, waling into walls and overall playing like its his first time with a console game
blows my fucking mind

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>>377192618
You are not going to get a DRM free world. GoG only exists because steam is there (atleast not in the state its in today). Sure, you have the very few real publishers who put their new releases on GoG, but about 85% of the releases on GoG is infact old games (originally GoG was about saving old games, finding a place for people to buy said games since it was impossible to do so before, and bringing them up to date enough to play on modern machines) or indie games, and almost all of those indie games are also sold on steam, for higher profit and unit counts, and less piracy.

if publishers didnt have a quick, easy end all be all answer to the DRM problem, most games wouldnt be ported. Steam makes it easy and gives them a sort of peace of mind, which allows them to be a little more lenient and put their games on riskier sites like GoG.

People REALLY forget what the PC landscape was like before steam. Everyone had their own client/website (EA had like 7), everyone had their own DRM (unless it was one of the draconian ones, and people who use that term nowadays REALLY didnt live during those times to see what draconian really looks like), CD keys where being spoofed constantly, there was no central place for patches...

Steam, for all the bad mistakes it had, did FAR better good than any of its worst mistakes (of which there really isnt many), and solved far more problems than it ever created. Anyone remember the absolute horrid shitstains of servicetree, stardock, impulse, D2D, gametap and gamestop online digital gaming service? Yea.

>>377193536
serves you right for stuffing your face and not taking a walk every day, not even asking you to work out to get roided or anything, geez anon you're lazy as fuck

>>377193352
>GOG
>literally 1/10th of the selection of good games, at best

lmao

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>>377193714
Thanks for the encouragement, friendo.

>>377182857
This is a normal console player though

>>377193651
>unless it was one of the draconian ones, and people who use that term nowadays REALLY didnt live during those times to see what draconian really looks like
I remember reading through an old blog at one point recently, and stumbling across them ranting about the original Bioshock PC release. There's a complete shitshow of a DRM thing people don't even discuss today when it comes to stuff like Denuvo or Steam.

>>377193730
>counting the deluge brought upon by greenlight as games

lmao

>>377193910

Too many people treat their bodies like they're replaceable toys. It's like, would you buy an expensive car and then put a ton of food and other nasty shit into it? No because it would most likely permanently damage it.

The same analogy can be applied to your body. This shit should be taught in school.

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Need to update my PS Store by Sony to buy my PS Games, but wait! I have to update my system OS to access the store to buy my PS Store Curated by Sony!

>Wow, FFXV Came out! I paid full retail for Day 1 Release of a game with gutted content for DLC down the line
>I guess I need to wait to install these updates'
>Wow, I hate Steam DRM!
Did people forget consoles used to Region Lock you? Or that models aren't backwards compatible for the sole purpose of reselling you old titles? Or that if you want to create a game and releasing on iOS isn't condusive, you literally have no other option than Steam because no one other than Valve has given a single fuck about new developers?

wtf, I hate Valve now!

>>377193910
you don't need encouragement, you need a sarge to scold you back into shape
if you want encouragement just think about keeping your fucking feet

>>377191904
>I refuse to believe someone can be good at playing the piano but unable to play a trumpet at all.
This is how stupid you sound

>>377182646
I trust Valve more than I do Polygon.

>>377194181
... That's what I'm doing. That's how I lost 4kg.

What the fuck did you think I meant by mentioning not wanting to lose my feet?

>>377194156

Backwards compatibility used to be a thing with consoles though. Why did it stop? Many reasons, but mostly because BUSINESSES figured out that they would Jew people out of more money by not including it.

It's going to make a comeback soon though. I can feel it.

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Valve and PC gaming allowed this...

>>377183081
>maybe, but I(and everyone not mentally handicapped) still want everything in one place. i guess gaming will have to suck it.
The majority uses steam because of this very reason. Me for example, I couldn't care less about the other services Steam offers. Buying and storaging games became a trivial affair with Steam.

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>>377194350
>It's going to make a comeback soon though. I can feel it.

>>377194275
exactly, but 4kg isn't enough, it's just the beginning
now stop looking for encouragement and just go. get encouraged by the results instead

>>377182646
>polygon
no

i was looking forward to this article and ready to praise polygon for at last doing some decent journalism. i was glad someone was finally going to break the normie zeitgeist of valve/gabe being wonderful. i knew there were lots of contentious points the author could really attack.

then i read it and almost choked on the stench of memes and the simple childlike approach the writer took. i got fooled again. fucking internet bloggers.

>>377194218
That's literally not even the same thing

Good attempt though

>>377194432

Think about it. There's a lot of people out there who still own Playstation 1/2 games, most of which aren't on the PS store and probably never will be. If Sony made a console or at least a variation that cost a little more but allowed people to play older Playstation games on it, they would make lots of MONEY.

It's going to happen. Watch.

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GOG is waiting for you.

>>377194350
Sure, when people get tired of being jewed on hard-drive space, they'll make it so that you play your old games, except you'll need to purchase the SONY PLAYSTATION 1 EMULATOR (free with PS+ account!) for $15.00.

>>377182646
You shit shill thread failed earlier today why are you reposting this shit. Dragon dad autistic.

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>>377194601
>It's going to happen. Watch.
>just you wait!
It's almost too funny.

>>377194551
this is a great example why the mockery over "video game journalism lel" is retarded.
even for such an easy field like videogames, you could still make a fool out of yourself even if you've got the most interesting subjects to talk about.

>>377194662

Only $15? Shit, I'd buy it. I have over $500 worth of Playstation 1 games, and even more PS2 games.

>>377194551
the majority of people that still use steam are ironic weebs, they had to write it in a way the retards would understand

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>>377194350
you answered your own question which is the main reason why I stopped gaming on console get sick of re-buying games I already own due. Them wiping people game library when a new console and pay to use online service is released.

>>377194218
Thats a pretty week example anon. If you're good on the piano you can honestly pick up another instrument relatively easily. Its all about practicing and learning necessary skills
>t. Played the piano almost 18 yrs now

>>377193045

Yeah there's good and bad. Just depends on your perspective. I do get tired of the 'everything is trying to kill you' claim. Maybe the rest of the world are just pussies.

>>377194883
You could just keep your old consoles

>>377194601
I've totally given up on the idea after "PS2 Classics" got introduced on PS4 and PS1 games like FF7 got half-assed (((remasters))) for $20.
better luck next time with PS5 in 2020

>>377194601
so....
Emulator?

>>377194948

Not him, but that argument is dumb. What are you going to do when it eventually stops working? You can't buy another. Better hope someone is selling one on ebay.

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>>377194025
Heres some of what you could expect with the old DRM.
>Keyloggers
>rootkits
>disabled drives (cd/dvd/etc)
>CD key deactivations after 5 inputs
>full scans
>adware
>resource hogs (we're talking using almost 2/3rds of your ram for just the DRM)
>deleting files it thought where anti DRM
>stopping other games from launching/crashing other games
fun times

>>377194948
console/emulator you actually need
>8 bits era
>16 bits era
>32 bits era (only emulation)
>arcade system
>Gamecube
done

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>>377193045
NT are the kings of not giving a fuck.

This is an actual tourism campaign.

>>377195039
I have a box of old 8-tracks. Are companies obligated to keep producing 8-track players for all time?

>>377195280
>This is an actual tourism campaign.

No it wasn't.

>>377195345

No, but they can make money if they do, which is probably why... they still make them.

>>377182646
This is true for all corporations.

>>377194818
Sure, I mean, that's assuming they'd let you put in your physical discs, and don't sell you super reduced price games over again.

Either way, they'll fuck you over somehow, whether consoles get more expensive because muh harddrives space (which the Emulator or the game files, or the save files will just happen to eat up a bunch of your space), and muh graphic cards are about to be the next gen selling point. I mean, you gotta buy a new one every 4 years

HDTV > LEDTV> 3DTV > 4KTV >

I uh, think Valve could improve a lot with Steam, and I wish they'd fix their games as Developers, but Consoles are literally like owning an iMac that you buy new to play mostly nothing good and gimped. Japanese developers are pretty fucked. They take forever to make 1 single franchise seller and blow tons of money on graphics engines that fucking blow anyway, or they end up like Kojima, who did make good games, but now makes movies for babbies.

People who have never played Metal Gear, or Silent Hill, or ZOE, are hot for Hideo for community meme reasons. This Anti-Valve shit is for community meme reasons.

Good, fuck off.
I'm sorry you wasted $2k building your first gaming PC to realize you want to be a whore on Twitch anyway.

>>377194876
Yes, 12 million weebs.
And only a tiny fraction of them buy Japanese games for some reason.

>>377182646
read it. soapbox: the post
>valve is not your friend
don't care
>valve is a corporation that only cares about financial gain
don't care
>valve is blah blah blah blah
don't care

I find it amusing that the writer of this article claimed that your average PC gamer would care about this shit. Valve could be literally torturing babies and draining their life essence to power their super weapon in an effort to destroy mars, and I still wouldn't care.

>>377195787
you do know what "ironic" means in this context right?

If a game is $25 on Origin/Uplay, $30 on Steam, and $35 on GoG, which would you buy?

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>>377194948
I still have them but issue is accessibility having 6 or 7consoles wired up to your tv. Can get messy even if you manage the cables. Also talking about digital titles that get lost transition to new console hardware or software. Xbox fucked over a portion of my library of downloaded games got wiped and I can't re-download because they don't exist anymore due to being on last gen download market or it did not save the purchase data from last gen meaning I have re buy so fuck that.

>>377195989
I keep mine in the closet and just pull them out when I want to play them, and put them away when I'm done.

>>377195962
I'd wait for a sale
or pirate it if I really wanted to play it ASAP

>>377194948
>>377195989
It's this mentality that make pc winning, and that's a bad thing.

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>>377195962
Steam because it's a matter of convenience at this point.

Besides, I'm not some shekel pinching kike who gets upset over 5 dollars.

>>377182891
If people think valve is a monopoly they are fucking stupid.

>>377195962
>assuming price is the only factor in which people by a product

>Not considering all the other service you can get with it.

>Not considering that people don't want to download 4 different storefront clients just to get a game 5$ cheaper.

>>377195787
>12 million

Oh please. There aren't even that many people using Steam. Most of those accounts are just duplicates anyway.

>>377196359
This!
real numbers are closer to 2 millions at best (we're talking about pc aftera all...)

>>377196095

Nah. Setting up an emulation program and everything else is even more annoying than just taking your own console out of the closet.

I mean, both are annoying as fuck, but the latter is definitely less annoying.

If these companies just introduced a way for people to play their older games on the newest piece of technology available, they would make bank. Kinda like what they're doing with the PSPro. Want better graphics? Just buy this console. They should do that with backwards compatibility.

>>377196359
12 million is the peak active concurrent daily users on Steam. Steam has 125 million accounts registered.