Can you bunny hop, /v/?

>>377176416
What's a bunny hop?

>>377176416
>he doesn't just use a script

>>377176558
it's an old stupid thing FPS used to have that was artificial difficulty

thank g*d valve, halo, CoD, and overwatch got rid of it once and for all

>>377176634
sounds pretty lame and cringe...

>>377176558
>>377176634
>>377176813
how long did you have this planned?

>5 replies
>4 posters

>>377176416
I pretended to bunny hop in CS so people thought I was 1337. Of course I ended up going slower than just normally running.

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>>377176558
>>377176634
>>377176813
What the FUCK am I reading?
KYS faggot for this shitty b8.

>>377176621
>being so retarded you can't flick down on the mouse wheel

>>377176813
yeah it sucked and was for losers that played dumb games that required no skill, like quake

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>>377176416
how the fuck do you b-hop without pressing spacebar???

>>377176416
In CSS and TF2 yeah
It's alot harder in GO so kinda

>>377177284
bind jump to mousewheel up

>>377177284
in HL engine games it didn't have input buffers like in quake, so you either had to time space exactly every time, or bind it to mousewheel and flick it every time you were about to hit the ground

>>377177302
CSS and TF2 didn't really have it though. I mean the speedcaps were so low it made such marginal difference.

The only FPS I've played that had bunny hopping was Painkiller.

I think.

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>>377176416
Not consistently but I could usually get at least 5 jumps before fucking up.

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>>377176416
>calling strafejumping "bunnyhopping"
Fuck off child

>bunnyhop level
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIi38dHjos starts playing

>>377179594
its not just moving side to side retard

its a method of moving forward faster

>>377179923
>so underage he doesn't even know the difference between strafejumping and bunnyhopping

ADMIN HE DOIN IT SIDEWAYS

>>377176416
>bunny hop
that looks like strafejump though

>>377177565
>in HL engine games it didn't have input buffers like in quake,
So that's why I can bunnyhop all day in Quakeworld but can't do it for shit in any GoldSrc/Source game.

Meh.

>>377180608
>>377179594
he's not holding W, it's not strafejumping

>>377181871
I'm pretty sure both bunnyhopping and strafejumping require you to hold W.

>>377181897
in classic qw/goldsrc bunnyhopping, holding W actually slows you down, the whole thing is using just A, D and jump in combination with air control

>>377176416
I guess...? It looks simple enough to do, though I don't know the context.

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IIRC they tried to kill bunny hop in Counter Strike, but they couldn't. Now I'm legitimately curious, can youbunny-hop in Overwatch?

>>377182091
Overwatch has no advanced movement techniques. No bunnyhopping or strafejumping and no air control to speak of.

The only reason it's in Valve games (despite them continually and sometimes successfully trying to kill it) is because Valve's engines are based off ancient Quake 1 tech, including player movement and how friction is handled.

FROM IVY

>>377176634
>>377176813
We're actually at the point where bait is this fucking cheap and low effort.

And yes, I realise that I shouldn't respond because it's bait. But come the fuck on, man.

>>377182091
Nope. Even if your speed changes after you jump (IE sprinting as 76 then letting go midair or jumping just before speed boost from Lucio wears off) your velocity is slowed down automatically. The game is designed around being as simple as possible.

>>377182091
momentum doesn't do anything to movespeed in overwatch, you always move at a fixed speed

>>377182091
>nu-Blizzard
>allowing their games to have any advanced tech of any kind ever
lol

>>377182845
But OW has a far more complicated movement mechanic (Lucio), the reason why bunny hoppin is not there is because it breaks immersion since it looks so retarded

>>377183136
What's so complicated about Lucio? He's just a slow Titanfall pilot with none of the movement depth.

>>377183297
Any scrub can wallride on titanfall, being consistently good at wallriding as lucio is much harder
he is also faster now than he used to be

>>377183465
Literally everything in Overwatc is designed for any scrub to be consistently good at. Does Lucio accelerate as he rides on walls yet?

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>>377183465
>Any scrub can wallride on titanfall
anyone can wallride on titanfall, only good players can into fast.

>>377176416
>game claims to be realistic or tactical
>players can bunnyhop
into the trash it goes

>>377179734
ive actually shown this video to a bunch of younger guys when they talk about "mad skills" in current gamers. every single time they are just fucking mesmerized.

>>377176416
Yeah. It's easy with a trackball mouse.

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I can bhop in 1.6 with 10aa
how fucking mad are you guys

Is this why FPSs aren't as fast as Doom or Half Life 1? Because they're afraid of players having fun breaking the engine?

>>377184321
Not entirely, but not having any movement tech doesn't help.

i used to be able to bhop with spacebar instead of scroll wheel but it's really hard to keep it going for any meaningful amount of distance

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>tfw learned to bunnyhop in a shitty F2P Facebook Quake clone when I was underage

It was fucked up because the game was really P2W, I had to outspeed my opponent with movement and outsmart him to win with the shitty free weapons

>>377179594
strafe jumping and bunny hopping are 2 different things

strafe jumping is a quake 2/3 thing where you hold down W

bunny hopping is just A/D with air strafing

>>377183136
>Lucio
>complicated
lol

>>377184741
what game was this

>>377184321
yes

>>377183136
>using an ability the exact way it is intended
>advanced tech
lol

>>377183792
This isn't hard to do, at all. Titanfall does not have difficult movement.

>>377176416
No, I'm a useless fucking casual

>>377183687
Gets a small boost as he jumps off the wall now

>>377176416
Yes, I can.

>>377176558
A way to move faster and be a little harder to shoot because lolhitboxes in video games.

It's been kind of phased out in modern video games because gamepads are more used than KB+M and it can't really be done on a pad.

It's not really hard to do once you've figured it out, it's just really fucking hard to figure out HOW to do it, if you get me.

I used to cheat:
>bind mwheel up to jump
>mwheel down to jump
This makes it easier to spam jump
>run
>jump forward
>let go of w
>press a
>turn left with mouse
>spam wheel so you jump again as soon as you land
>do the same thing with the w key and turning the mouse right

The key is to fucking forget the W key exists once you've started jumping.

>>377186358
but both air strafe and bunny hop are in Titanfall

>>377176416
I keep fucking up the tutorial in Fortress Forever

>>377188349
people still play that game? I thought it was DOA after like a week

>>377189315
I'm bringing it up since it's one of the few games I know of that have a bunnyhopping tutorial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNvDUO42Hys

We sea demons?

>>377189438
>H-he's fast!

So what modern games have bunnyhopping? Can I bunny hop in CSGO and TF2?

>>377177284
Bind jump to right click?

>>377176416
No, couldn't figure it out. Never put much more thought into it because I didn't play too many games that benefitted from it.

>>377177284
I'm wondering more is how people can keep up a rhythm for this, I either just start spamming A and D like crazy while spinning the mouse and forgetting to jump

>>377189978
they crippled it in both those games to cater to casuals, so not really, may as well not even bother

>>377190270
I constantly am pressing both a and D but I somehow learned when to press which button to maintain speed while spamming them

Was phoon really legit?

>>377183792
>EPG
my nigga

>>377182091
Only D.Va can. When you use her boosters she sometimes says "Bunny hop!"

>>377184321
>as fast as Doom
I wouldn't say Doom is that fast outside of SR45/50 shenanigans to be honest.

>>377192054
Doom has never been that fast yet people remember it being fast

I don't understand

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>>377192734
On a higher level of play, like say deathmatch or speedruns, the use of straferunning is indeed quite fast. Otherwise you can generally go at your own pace with the game as far as vanilla levels are concerned, but user-made maps are definitely much more challenging

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>>377192734
>he forgot to set run as default

>>377182196
There is air control in OW it just feels really trashy since it's not confined to mouse movement at all

>>377192054
You sprint at the fucking speed of light in Doom. Doomguy literally runs at about 60 MPH

In most modern shooters you """sprint""" at the speed of a 500-pound man who just heard he can get two big macs for $5

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>Thief: the metal age still had silly arena FPS jumping before they removed it in 2

>>377183836
Nice to see children respecting the past

why does no one play titanfall
the it's got all the movement tricks and speed you could want plus newer stuff like the grapple where you can fly across the entire map yet niggas just want to keep playing counterstrike or whatever the fuck

>>377191150
no. couldnt replicate at LAN

scripter

I love how people say that bunny hop took skills and that new games are casual because they don't have it when 95% of the people actually did bunny hop just used a macro or binded it into the mousewheel.
It's a shitty mechanic that should belong in the past

Bunny hopping is the micro of FPSes.
Micro killed the RTS genre so if bhopping was still a thing, FPS would be dead.

>>377176416
yeah i used to stay up all night playing on bhop servers in css

>>377194204
Because the first Titanfall was utter garbage, I have no reason to care about its sequel.

>>377192734
Doom can be pretty fast.
shit, your movement speed with autorun on (set joyb_speed to 29 in the config file in OG Doom since it doesn't expose an autorun setting in the config) is pretty high on its own

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>>377196018
>the first titanfall was utter garbage

I love going fast in video games, I've replaced my blood with pharmaceutical grade speed. Going fast is all I know how to do.

I tried to go fast once and ended up an ascetic free from mortal concerns.

>>377196842
A single sane person in a sea of people who think having a useful tech to practice and master in order to gain an advantage is somehow a bad thing

>>377197339
I'm a huge advocate for complex movement mechanics in video games, because to me it's another pillar of the gameplay. If you have shit movement, you notice.
That being said, every game needs to having bunny hopping, I need to go fast and there's not many games to satisfy my craving.

>>377197452
go to bed brandon

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>>377197690
FINE

>>377197339
>lol let's add a breathing button so that people who know how to use it well get another advantage!
Tribes Ascend got bhopping right: by replacing it with something that achieves the same effect with less bullshit.

Does thief have bunny hopping? Even though a game like thief doesn't need it I realized that simply jumping at the right time without anything else will increase your speed to insane levels to the point hitting a wall kills you

The source material is shit, but the attack on titan tribute game has really fun movement with a really high skill cap. It's so satisfying once you get good at seamlessly keeping up a high speed. I used to be able to compete for top kills in random servers, but I didn't play for a couple years and people have advanced way past me now. I'm excited to see what it will look like eventually when some guy has been playing it every day for 10 years.

>>377197339
>>377197690
VGS
FAST
HAYAI
tfg numbah one

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>>377176634
>thank g*d

OUT MIDDLE

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admin he doin it sideways

Yes but I never wore it like a badge of honour like the autismos did. I always opted for auio hope when it was avaliabe. Getting speed quick was so much more fun than bein an aspire and spinning the autism wheel

>>377182201
it's called a joke

I know, it's crazy, people making jokes on 4chan right? fucking plebbitors

>>377176416
I could do it properly in Quake Live but I don't know if they made it easy for that game because it was. You moved your mouse on an 8 though IIRC.
A couple jumps in CSGO too but since it stopped you in mid air if you went over the speed limit it wasn't much fun.

>>377179734
>it's actually a french algerian song about mint tea

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>>377199136
>this fucking video

Always gets a laugh out of me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNvDUO42Hys

>bunnyhop

Why did they give this cringy leethaxor gaymer term to simply jumping in succession?

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>>377176416
No I can't. Constantly fucking up jumps timing.

>>377201518
which game are you talking about

>>377200715
it's not jumping in succession, it requires you to move your mouse in the strafe direction wihle midair

>>377182091
Overwatch's shit engine is so garbage it doesn't support air acceleration at all.

>>377176416
Tried to bunnyhop in csgo but can't seem to make it work, any tips?

>>377202013
yeah

play a better game

>>377202013
csgo needs some console commands to enable bunnyhop

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>>377201593
>it requires you to move your mouse in the strafe direction wihle midair

Really? I just simply press space again and my characters jump immediately, no landing lag or anything. I don't know why old gamers make simply shit seem more difficult than they actually are, just like they do with rocket jumping.

>>377201593
>which game are you talking about
GoldSource based games, like classic CS or HLDM.

>>377202838
>I just simply press space again and my characters jump immediately, no landing lag or anything.

yes but that doesn't make you gain speed

bunny hopping causes you to accelerate in midair while performing the aforementioned synced movement of mouse and strafe keys

it's the central movement mechanic of the quake games

>I don't know why old gamers make simply shit seem more difficult than they actually are, just like they do with rocket jumping.
it's easy to pick up, hard to master, doing it flying through a map and turning corners at 800 UPS while not hitting walls and racing to red armor and megahealth is way way harder than it looks

>>377202890
>goldsource

I literally just started playing HLDM a week ago and I always make my jumps.

enter this in the console

>unbind mwheeldown
>bind mwheeldown "+jump"

then jump by flicking mouse wheel down every time you're about to hit the ground

you'll be a GaRpY tier fragger in no time!

>>377202989
I'll try it. Many thanks, good sir.

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>>377203209
>good sir
>sir

are you a plebbitor?

also how did you not know about mwheeldown bhop in goldsrc

anyway maybe I'll see you in AG sometime redditfag, glhf

>>377176634
>g*d
Please look up the cosmological argument for the existence of an unmoved mover.
>An old stupid thing FPS used to have that was artificial difficulty.
t. someone who cannot bunny hop.

>>377202508
I'm smfc already, gonna quit on global

Seeing so many ITT not having a clue what bhopping is, makes me sad.

Golden age of FPS is truly over, you casual underage faggots

>>377203352
oh dear

Can you rysshoppa, /v/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ6iXAry3zA

>>377203882
yeah it depressed me seeing so many fags not know

I'm only 21 and still I know what bhopping is, makes me sad how dumb nu-gamers are

>>377203921
what's wrong?

>>377204403
you may have autism

it's terminal

I'm sorry.

>>377204573
said the person who used g*d unironically

>>377177565
>CSS
>marginal difference
you have never heard of phoon have you

>>377182091
the first thing i did when i launched OW was try to Bhop.

Fucking terrible game

>>377204942
yeah but it was way gimped compared to 1.6, you can't deny it, one person being godlike doesn't compare to how much they toned it down compared to goldsrc

Probably, never got into cs other than casually. I could do all the cancel techniques and bunny hops and trick jumps in s4league though.

>>377176416
THE BUNNYHOP COMMUNITY IS SUCH A SHITTY CIRCLE JERK FUCK YOU ALL

>>377205418
cs isn't the only game that has it

half life
quake
titanfall

>>377182091
The movement velocity is limited in CSGO, you deaccelerate automatically if you go too fast, meaning you can only bhop a few times before you slow down.

>>377204763
>unironically
you're eating bait like it's breakfast amigo, time to stop

>>377176416
yea in warsow.

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>>377176416
of course i can, silly :P

>>377203308
umadditor?

>>377176416
Idk, I used strafe jumping in doom wads though. I miss jumpmaze wads.

>>377176416
yes, but d'va can't.

>>377196418
Its just call of duty with mechas, the fact you can go fast means nothing at all when there arent items to time. Its just a shitty twitch shooter unlike for example quake live

>>377205998
dirty bomb

>>377205998
AND UNDUHHRAILL
LULLLLLL
IT A GUUUD GAHHMMME

UHHURRRR DURRRRRR
NO REAL CHOICES
MAKES GUD GAME

>>377177000
ahahah nice trips confirm

Fuck bunny hopping, rocket and sticky jumping are infinitely more fun and much higher skill ceiling. I hope a new game comes along with those mechanics before TF2 properly dies, or the art may be lost forever.

>>377186358
If it isn't hard why remove it from all games like it gives an unfair advantage to a select few?

>>377207138
>Fuck these mechanics, Imma cherry-pick some other fucky mechanics that I like and those other mechanics are shit and you are shit if you disagree with me, also cthulu

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>>377176558
>>377176634
>>377176813
impressive

>>377207276
Ok

>>377207138
>RJs require more skill than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We9HecfYYd4

ok

fun fact tf2babby: they aren't mutually exclusive, in fact, the same game that invented both, quake 1, had both!

>>377176416
Of course, it's just offsetting your directional input by just over 90° from the direction you're moving so that your lateral speed is added to your forward speed, gradually turning so that the angle stays above 90°

It's a stupid physics exploit that has no reason being kept exactly as-is and then being touted as a feature. Even Tribes did the smart thing and made "Skiing" into a proper feature, giving the player to disable friction at will. Thing is, where modern Tribes Skiing still has a good degree of skill required to go fast effectively, if you were to translate Quake bunny hopping into something that took out the angle offsetting and just made you speed up on consecutive jumps, the "skill" of bunny hopping would evaporate.

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>>377207138
>tf2cucks will never know the joys of combining both
>tf2cucks will never know the ecstasy of RJing to build speed off a wall and then airstrafe accelerating all over the fucking map
>tf2cucks will NEVER know what it's like to fly at 700+UPS and then RJ and fucking fly like a jet plane

can't wait until your shitty hat game that's a dumbed down hat simulator version of a once dumbed down version of a casual game that was a remake of a casual mod for quake, dies

>>377207494
Wow I never knew a game called quake existed! Fucking retard where did I ever say tf2 invented anything? It's the last game with those mechanics, on a non-shit Bethesda made game, that exists. I want it to continue to exist in future games.

Also bhopping isn't even close

>>377207617
>Of course, it's just offsetting your directional input by just over 90° from the direction you're moving so that your lateral speed is added to your forward speed, gradually turning so that the angle stays above 90°
no the angle actually starts at 90 and approaches zero the faster you go

you have to decrease the angle over time

>>377207678
then why are you trashing bhop? also, tf2's rocket jumping is no fun compared to tfc conc jumping, if you ever played that game

AND every class had grenades so they could do it. Trickjumping in tf2 is limited to 2 classes. Demoman and soldier. THAT'S IT.

bunny hopping: when a game allows you to keep your speed and exceed the basic speed limit by jumping
air control: when you can change the direction of your velocity mid air by applying acceleration perpendicular to your velocity (i.e. A OR D without W, with appropriate mouse movement)
strafe jumping: only in quake 2,3,4,live and some games based on the quake 3 engine like JKA. originally a coding bug that allows speed increase past the basic speed limit when applying acceleration at a somewhat weird range of angles depending on your speed

>>377207764
And soon it will be 0 classes when tf2 dies. You keep going back to the past and previous games, I'm talking about the future.

Never could in CS 1.6 or whatever. I didn't play a lot but it still irks me to this day.

>>377207918
>I'm talking about the future.

'the future' is shit like overwatch you fucking moron. skill based games are dying because of the casualization of gaming. your precious tf2 will go the way of quake and the dumb le bunny hopping you hate to make way for games that will make CoD and halo look like fucking high level CPMA and AG duels in comparison.

>>377208341
but muh dva said BUNNY HOP in her sound file

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>>377208439
why would they even have that le epik gaymer reference but not actually have any kind of air accel or actual bhop in the game

>>377208507
cus Blizzard?

>>377208628
>Blizzard

true, I almost forgot who made the game

>>377208341
No shit? Not sure what you're arguing about you dumbfuck

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>>377183792
My projectile weapon nigga.
GOTTA GO FAST

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>bunny hopping

Big fucking whoop. Come talk to me when you've wrecked the tendons in your hands doing K-Style in GunZ.

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>>377209578
>>377183792
I hate that this game is dead

>>377208341
Are you retarded?

>>377210353
I sort of got burnt out after 300 hours of playtime and am playing Battlefield 1 for now.
I hope that Titanfall 2 is still alive when I decide to come back to it.

>>377183792
fuck that looks fun, to bad its origin

>>377211297
I got bored with BF1 quick. Any DLC out?

>>377209578
shame the game is all about hitscan weapons, low ttk with no item pickups and map control whatsoever.

>>377211653
>low ttk
>bad

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>>377211458
One DLC is out, They Shall Not Pass, the game mode it adds, Frontlines, is amazing and is basically all I play.

I started with BF1, got bored, got TF2 played it for over 300 hours and now am back in BF1.

>>377211653
I agree, the prevalence of hitscan makes the game less fun to me.
Personally I love the projectile weapons the most, but sometimes when playing vs really good players I have no choice but to switch to the CAR or R97 if I want to win.

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>play quake 1
>decide that I should learn bunnyhopping
>look up tutorial
>do as they say
>I slow down adn in the end bump into a wall

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>>377211901
I'm hoping Quake or Rising Storm 2 will scratch my shooter itch. Getting burned out on what I have.

>>377211912
You're doing it wrong. Obviously.

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>>377176416

Sorta. I don't really play games that I could bhop in though, it's either games that have it disabled, flatish games without jumping like doom, or you could never bhop in the first place because the engine doesn't allow it.

I can rocket jump though so there's that.

>>377184321
because the levels are small, because moving too fast causes you to move faster than the level can load in new parts, so you would just outrun the textures. With DX invisible war it is obvious. In DX you had super speed but it was in the unreal engine and the maps were big enough to make you able to enjoy the speed. In invisible war meanwhile I constantly had to turn off super speed since I hit a wall within a second and would have to stand still and see where to go next. In HL you have pretty long hallways, or xen where the distances were huge. Playing through that with COD speed and sprinting would be hell. Meanwhile COD with HL speed would just be crazy, especially for console players that wouldnt be able to hit anyone

>>377207658
Actually tf2 has bunny hopping but only for explo jumping classes (this includes the pyro).
While airborne from an explo jump, you don't have a speed cap and you can remain technically airborne by bunny hopping with a good timing.

does bunnyhopping exist in CS:Source?

I've been playing it a bunch lately and I just switch to my pistol when I want to be mobile. Might try learning to bunnyhop if it's in that game.

>>377207617

>if you take the skill out of bhopping it takes no skill

Wow what a fucking surprise.

>>377177565
I always had trouble with the timing in Source games. Aiming on hitscan too just because of that weird shit it does where it raytraces from your right ear to the first thing in front of your cursor, so your bullets can go at a wildly different angle depending on whether your cursor is hitting your target, the terrain, or the skybox. Especially on shotgun/high spread weapons like Scout's primary in TF2, I couldn't hit a fucking barn with that shit even though I could airshot people with rockets and grenades.

I will just never fucking understand how pros (or even only halfway decent players really) strafejump like they do in q3.

Like, I spent 100 fucking hours in defrag. And tried fucking everything. How much magic can there be to it? How hard can it be to alternate some pressing and swiping the mouse left and right? And still I can do just the babby tier platform jumps and still miss the q3dm6 bridge jump two out of three tries. And seriously I tried for fucking EVER. Spent whole days just doing nothing but that jump, but I can just not do it consistently.

And like, that's what people consider a basic prerequisite to play the map competitively at all. And some fuckers can jump what feels like twice as fucking far, and clear the bridge to railgun distance from a standstill and shit. Fuck me, fuck you, fuck this game I'm just too stupid for this

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>>377182023
can't do it with an optical mouse - you need one of the old ones with the ball in it

>>377193437
You mean the dark age. I liked it how in the dark age you could actually die if you hit a wall while bunnyhopping due the raw speed.

>>377212523
It's the angles, bro.

>>377177565
>TF2 didn't really have it though
>he never played combat surf

>>377202838
Just jumping as soon as you hit the ground allows you to maintain speed, not pick up more speed.

>>377207198
Better solution: why not play it up as a feature and add it to the tutorial because it's fun once you know how to do it?

>>377176416
I could back in the days of 1.6.
I didn't play a game where you could do it since then. So probably not anymore.

>>377212523
did you enable the angle viewer in defrag

>can give a boost jump in CS:S
>can make flash jumps in CS:S
>the game has physics
CS:S is the best CS

>>377212816
Yes, and I watched ultra slo mo sequences of people doing the same trials I struggle with with angles and button presses and all. At some point I used to have a very strong understanding of what I was *supposed* to do but I guess I just can't hit the right angles, time the button presses correctly, who the fuck knows. It's straight up magic to me.

Strafejumping is not just jumping while strafing. It's jumping while straferunning.
Straferunning is running forward while strafing at the same time. It allows you to run faster by a factor of sqrt(2)

Bunnyhopping is another glitch that lets you get this speedboost every jump. So if you bunny hop five times in succesion you will move at (sqrt(2))^5 times the normal running speed.

>>377212474
That's right, it isn't a surprise that if you were to make bunny hopping something intuitive rather than relying on exploiting a physics glitch, it would be no more deep than pressing jump rapidly. There is no depth to it beyond the execution. All you do is go in a straight line, faster.

Meanwhile other movement systems inherently require skill to get the most out of it because they have more to them.
Quake died by the turn of the century because strafe jumping and bunny hopping became an almost mandatory skill to play above the most base level, yet learning it is far from intuitive, so those who could do it even at an elementary level bumped out all of the newbies who were virtually stationary targets. Not an inviting environment.

Strafe jumping is not even that difficult, but there's no way to explain the concept to somebody succinctly to have them pick it up. You can describe it in some simple ways, but that isn't going to teach them anything. You can give video tutorials or some in-game custom maps to teach the execution, but a newbie is not going to gain that muscle memory for a long time. It is simply not worth their time, and they drop Quake for something that has more content and more interesting systems.

Quake bunny hopping is a shit, shallow technique that has been kept as-is instead of being properly adopted by developers and made into a more interesting movement system. They don't dare change the way it works because the way it works is the only thing it has going for it, and grognards would cry about it not being exactly how it was in Quake 3.

>>377182091
You can't. Deceleration is way too high for you to gain speed that way. The only way to carry a useful amount of momentum for any length of time is to somehow cancel one of the games movement abilities, which was possible for a while with Genji's swift strike. Too bad it got patched.

>>377213297
>too bad
now now, we wouldnt want our game to be noob unfriendly now would we.

>>377213108
Oh hey, someone with a brain.

Can you go post this in the Quake Champions /vg/ thread? They're insanely dumb.

Has anyone tried bhopping in stupid singleplayer games, like Clustertruck or anything?
Also fucKING SERVERS LIVE DAMN YOU

>>377176416
Real man rocket jump.

>>377182091
While less complex, lucio's wall lunge is sort of similar to bunny hoping when you start to build up speed. Air strafing becomes more noticable (though still not quite as effective as in CS) and with lucio you can use it to correct your trajectory when you fuck up the initial angle off of a wall jump or to stop from slamming into e.g. a lightpole and instead jump off the side and build up more momentum
if images weren't down I'd post that webm of lucio making it to Eichenwalde from spawn in ~6 seconds

Bunnyhopping never impressed me. I mean yeah, it's hard to do, but every time I see it, it looks and feels like an exploit and it very clearly breaks the game.

Also, why the fuck hasn't anyone bothered to record inputs when they do these demo videos? Fighting games do it, why can't other games?

>>377213108
Quake didnt die because the movement being too complex. It died because of other titles have more attractive features. People prefer team play over solo play, even if the team is a random matched team. If you lose you can look at your score and compare it to your teammates and still feel like you beat someone, if you fuck up you can blame your team, you can get a friendship more easily if you get along with someone on the same team than as rivals, you can play with friends, that are just a few reasons why people prefer team play. You see the same with RTS, MOBAs have teams, 3v3 slogs are very popular for less competitive players, custom games are a big part of the communtiy. Second is that quake requires you to get good and go through hours of frustration. This isnt because people cannot move as fast as adept players. But because if you want to step up you need to remember spawn timers, routes, and listen to the grunts of the other guy jumping and know where he is in the game.And if you die you can get killed over and over with your shitty starting weapon. This compared to COD with its loadouts.

Placing all the blame on complex movement is just retarded. Neither is it shallow, it gives increased speed, but it also gives away your position and makes it harder to precisely control your character. Removing it is like removing manual steering in a racing game, you just have to manage the throttle and brakes.

>>377213359
To be fair. It was probably less catering to shitters than it was fixing a potential balance issue. You could traverse the entire map almost instantly by doing this trick. Depending on how you angled it you could arrive anywhere you wanted as well. This is also the only ability in the game that's not entirely dependant on cooldowns as well. It was pretty powerful. I'm more mad they didn't mention removing it in any patch notes.

>>377215128
They do that a lot with bugfixes that people like. Like in LoL you had a hook ability to drag someone toward you. You could use blink while shooting the hook to drag someone further back. They removed this, but never mentioned it.

>>377176416
If you can't do some basic bunny hopping you're probably retarded. I personally think mastering strafe and circle jumping is harder.

>>377213839
They do though if you bothered to look for more than 30 seconds there's extensive videos that go over inputs, mouse movement, and even the math behind bunny hopping and strafe jumping. Apply yourself.

>>377194281
god what a fucking phony

>>377206704
never heard of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nmngte-d14

>>377211901
>buckhorns

How embarrassing.

Also what's the deal with images being turned off?

>>377176634
>god
>valve
>bait
>i failed

>B-b-bunny hoppin is advanced secret ninja technique that only masters can perform!
Yeah sure. The thing is most people aren't massive homosexuals who bunnyhop around.

>>377212396
Yes. On most servers they have sv_enablebhop 0 so it caps your bhops but you can easily find good dedicated bhop servers. Its probably the most active hopping community out there since CSGOs bhops are totally gimped even in custom servers.

Also look up faste hops.

Besides defrag with cpm movement I feel like CSS is the most fun game to bhop on.

>>377176634
I give this bait 8/10 for the sheer concentration of faggotry in a single post.

>>377215941
>Had friend in school who played Quake 2 religiously
>Looked exactly as a nerd should
>Black greasy hair, glasses, short, pale as a fucking vampire and bucktoothed
>Also made stupid noises when punched on the arm, which didn't help him really
>Literally never uses facebook, but likes birthday posts so still alive
He's either ascended to True NEET status and is just waiting to turn 30, or he's changed his name in public and abandoned his hometown

>>377216602
There's a Quake 2 server that fills up every day. Mayne he's still playing.

>>377216984
It's possible, given the lack of similar new games.
Hell, he might even be working from home given how into coding he was. Knowing him, if he is then he probably won't leave his home for the rest of his damn life.
Lucky bastard.

>>377193437
>>377212584
the metal age IS thief 2
thief: the dark project is thief 1

>>377217159
Quake 2 community is organized and tightly knit while quakeworld is just about dead it's a shame.

yes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yzOIOXfuruk