FFXIV

I wonder if this game will ever actually play like a Final Fantasy.

Even XIII has some things of the list.

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There is a reason FF11 will be remembered while FF14 will be forgotten.

Hell I play 14 and can't even tell you the main story characters names despite how much they try to sell you merchandice about then.

Doesn't matter. It's casual as fuck, so it sells more, that's what matters for square

>chocobos
>good

>>377171937
It might sell more but what MMORPGs really want is to keep people playing

>>377171993
It's about Final Fantasy elements, not quality.

they're still better than peco pecos though

I know a lot of casual folk who already think FFXIV is complex enough. You throw into too many other mechanics, and you're going to drive them off.

MMOs just go where the money is, so complexity tends to take a backseat. Would love some really complicated classes but that'd be no good.

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>>377172324
XIV could be compared to Nintendoland. A theme park of references and nods.

>>377171545
>What went wrong?
WoW

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>>377171901
>thinking any of this mattered when SAM came along and shat out solo skillchains
>thinking any of this mattered when BLU came along and shat out solo skillchains along with solo magic bursts
go back to fighting Flans, mr.useless BLM

I JUST WANT TO PLAY FFXIV BUT THE MAINTENANCE
fucking TWO days

>>377171545
How does squeenix get away with making such a trash "mmo"

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>>377172649
The real meme is still secretly caring about XI after chains of promathia. I don't even know what the game is like today but I'm guessing it's a mess.

Because they wanted the WoW market, did we really need another thread about this game?

>>377173385
Yes, actually. Fucking maintenance.

ded gaem
ded thred

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>>377172981

>>377171545
But Ragnarok had bootleg chocobos.

>>377171545
Pretty sure RO has some king of giant chicken mounts.

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>>377175829
Even in my RO mobile

>>377174767
>that noise
>it was a fucking pet

>>377176591
>it was a fucking pet
knights can mount them

>>377176702
I mean it was also like a minion that you could summon to follow you.

I'm sure that it was the main motivation for Gravity to remove pet noises in a patch.

>>377171901
>Not memorizing the sc chart

What are you some kind of casual?

so when are the servers supposed to be up?

>>377179812

I read 12:00am PST on Wednesday, but that was before it started. It may well have changed by now.

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>>377173385
XIfags literally cannot stop crying bitch tears about their dead MUD 15 years later, and damn if it don't feel good.

is FFXI worth getting back into? I hear it's absolutely dead nowadays and it's turned into the same generic endgame-centric mess that's infested the mindset of most MMOs. The best times of my teenage life were spent online, chatting with that auto-translate shit, yelling at japs to let me join their party.

>>377180157
It's trash now and everything that made it special to you is gone. Listen to big boss poster. He's entirely right. I'm just a bit sad that XIV reuses so much from XI but isn't the same.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8JUmCwOZvM

>You will never play mmos with your dad

>>377171545

FFXIV is such a shame compared to FFXI.

I mean, they took all the in-depth stuff and just threw it away in favour of casual shit.

>>377180157
>>377180357

This disheartens me, but I am doing jack in XIV right now waiting for the expansion, not to mention the current maintenance. With the recent free 14 day trial, I'm giving XI a shot out of curiosity.

>Makes servers a bit better for one region while making it worse for multiple regions, and completing eliminating EU players on Aether

>>377181552
You should look into the Dark Star project and windower. If you have enough autism to setup your own private server you can use windower and it's plugins to multibox a whole party and relive old memories.

Or just dick around with cheats and change server properties to do things you never got to do in the base game.

>>377182013
>multibox a whole party and relive old memories

I am averse to multiboxing usually, but if the community is dead I don't see a problem with it. And that sounds kind of neat, like in Icewind Dale, where you could design an entire party of characters and control them to tackle challenges.

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>>377171545
>elemental weakness and resistances
Saddens me this isn't a thing anymore

>>377182191
It's not so bad considering its a private server and windower has enough shit to make it work and feel like you're just controlling NPC characters.

If you play XI today on official you just kinda run around with 3 NPC's that kill everything for you. I think the record for hitting level 99 is an hour or some shit to give an example of how broken they are.

>>377171545
But everything is weak to fire.

>>377182456

Is it possible to forsake said NPCs for the sake of challenge?

>New Datacenter: Sacramento, CA

Enjoy you new ping Canada.

>>377183259
Yes. But you'll be solo for everything up to 99. The game is piss easy as they want everyone to hit the cap as quickly as possible. I think exp had been increased by 5x the rate you've been used to before using exp increasing items.

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How do I find a good fc in this game? I'm playing tank. Soon about to hit 60.

>>377182676

Weakness to Fire IV

>>377183341
Still speculation, but probably true

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>>377183482
>I'm playing tank

>>377183482

Try sleeping around. I have no idea really. My server seems to be filled with normies with no interest in end game content, so I stick around in a casual/social FC where I am well liked because I help people often and because they think I am a girl.

>>377183341
Implying it will be any different with the godawful tickrate

>>377183872
Is no one using teamspeak in FF14?
>>377183813
Isn't that a job that is in demand?

>>377183956
>Is no one using teamspeak in FF14?

Playing on PS4 is my excuse for never entering voice chat. Otherwise, plenty of people use stuff like Discord.

>>377183956
Sad to say, it is for the most part, but sadly, it's the least needed class. Considering you can clear everything without tanks at all, or even solo-tanking. I miss tanking with titan egi.Too bad this tickrate drove me insane.

>>377184165
Maybe now that everything is outgeared and on farm status. They'll be needed in Stormshill again.

>>377173385

Fuck off.

WoW didn't make you do MANDATORY 100+ quest chains that are literally 15 minutes of walking + 10 minutes of cutscenes and 1 minute of combat.

Also

>2.5 second GCD

>>377185039

I don't hate the fact that they try to make it a Final Fantasy game in addition to being an MMO. The mix is hardly graceful, but I know what I signed up for.

>>377171993
yes chocobos are good like you said anon.

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Don't go to Ul'dah tomorrow if you're on Balmung, some of you are alright.

Do MNKs actually use fracture or is that just a meme? Seeing a guide right now that actually recommends it

Anyone test out their ping

>>377186482
77 for me from the east coast

>>377183956
He's being a memeing retard, except in the case of 24mans and the current EX primal which won't even be current in a month.

>>377186215
They do. It's used, but only as a filler move if you're in stance #3, demolish has 6+s left, and ToD doesn't need to be refreshed yet.

When are the servers coming back? 3AM?

>>377186784
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/7e1d69066e956707ca023409ef56680e40e2d494

>>377186882
So in 3 hours huh?
Welp.
I wanna go to sleep with the real confirmation on the server location.

>>377186540
Shit nigga i was at 30-40 and im hitting about 110-120 now. Why is SE so shit when it comes to their na players

>>377186482
64ms from DFW area.
Montreal and Sacramento are both about 1700 miles from here so mine didn't change much.

>All the caliposters coming out on the forums saying "Well im from cali so this is a good day xD" completely unaware of greater issues

>>377186482
No because the servers aren't connected yet. All these ping tests people are doing are pointless.

>>377183482
I hope Ystola finally gets raped and turned in to a submissive little kitten like all the fucking miqotes in that game.

>Sword Oath increases power of spells by 20%, adds a cast time to all combo finishers, doubles their power and makes casting uninterruptable
>Shield Oath makes all your spells instant
>Almost Holy: 3s cast, 180 potency, 5s stun, 1600MP/cast
>Inspirit: adds 15% attack speed and 20% damage for 60 seconds, costs 2000MP

Paladin is now the caster tank who can be instant or not. Would this make PLD fun?

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>>377187351
But anon, all that matters is my ping. I literally want the most people possible other than me to have worse ping instead of it being in the center of the country where the ping is as even as possible. Don't you understand?

Can you queue in LFG with your chocobo out yet? Also do you still have to drop your group anytime you queue for something or need to enter an instance?

>>377182348

I don't, it's stupid and outdated.

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I fixed your image OP.

>>377187736
you can dungeon que with your chocobo out now.
I don't quite understand your second question. queing with a group will put you all into the que together and you all have to accept to join it. if you join a group while already in a que it drops the que.

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>Elemental weaknesses and resistances
You farm the gear you need to resist certain bosses, then stack classes that do the type of damage you need. No skill required, just "planning" that anyone can figure out with a quick google search or by asking someone in-game.

>Gear with various important stats
People stack the stat that gives them the most DPS and ignore the others. Even with almost no stats in XIV, there are no varying builds and people always prioritize one stat over others. If you make different encounters favour different stats, you still haven't added any choice, just forced people to change loadouts to the optimal one on a per-encounter basis.

>Gear Customisation
>Spell Customisation
>Stat Customisation
All same as above. People pick the things that are calculated to have the best performance and ignore all others.

>Branching jobs
Fundamentally no different from having jobs separate, except that tying jobs together means you can't balance one without unbalancing the other.

XI fags really need to get a grip and either accept that things which work in single player games don't work in MMOs, or just kill themselves already because your childhood is never coming back no matter how much you bitch.

>>377187736
Yes
Yes, make a linkshell or something if it's somebody you talk to reguarly and you want to keep talking.

>>377187736
>Can you queue in LFG with your chocobo out yet?
You can actually.

>>377187827
This is so wrong that I feel too lazy to even argue

>>377187978
it's a joke but it's technically "right." he just changed the extreme of having the gameplay element to a "yes" or "no"

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>>377187978

>Huton
I know that romanizing it with a H is also correct but it bothers me due to all the people saying it wrong

>>377187835
>>377187863
>>377187870
Hallelujah, thanks. The second question was more an annoyance having to drop group whenever we had to jump into a solo story instance

>>377188198
Dunno why they didn't simply wrote it as Futon honestly.

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>>377188291
>Cast Futon
>Ninja summons a cozy mattress and goes to sleep

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>>377188356
>Ninja summons
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>377188148
YOURE A FUCKING WHITE MALE

>>377187549
>adding more cast timers
FUCK OFF I SWEAR TO FUCK
GAUSS BARREL WAS A MISTAKE

>XI and XIV are not the same game

Wow.

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>>377171545
>Gear with various important stats
>Gear customization
>Spell customization
>Stat customization
>Branching jobs

None of these were in more than 2 or so mainline games you triple nigger. Branching jobs isn't even a mainline gameplay element

>>377188114
And it's exactly what belongs on a bait picture like that. I'm not technically "right". I'm right.

>>377188871
Jobs themselves aren't a core mainline gameplay element. Only 1, 3, 5 and X-2 (plus the Tactics games) have actual job systems, in every other FF game, jobs are either fixed to a character and can't be changed, or all the characters are effectively the same and specialize by other means.

>>377189098
Yeah the image is correct. I'm also saving it for later thanks for editing it.

>>377181563
>completely eliminating EU players
I don't see the issue?

>>377183341
>tfw live in Bay Area
BASED
A
S
E
D

Eastcucks and possible hue br monkeys btfo Feels good man

>>377171901
Never played XI or XIV but I was telling some fat bitch at work that I heard XI was superior and she very angrily told me never to say that and that the community doesn't talk about XI like it was some sort of traumatic shit that happened to the FF series.
I remember the releases though and XI was hype as fuck while XIV was nonstop complaining about how everything was shit and nothing worked right.

>>377186215
Pretty much what he said. From consolegameswiki site because it's all written out and I'm lazy to say it myself:

"Use Fracture when you are in the appropriate form for Dragon Kick, Twin Snakes, or Demolish; the timer for it is at 4-6 seconds remaining; and when Touch of Death doesn't need to be reapplied. This ensures that the re-application of those three skills will be "staggered" so that you benefit from their full duration without missing ticks/GCDs, as Fracture is higher potency than any other non-DoT weaponskill. Do not upkeep Fracture, as this will lead to dropping your buffs/DoTs and running dry on TP quickly. "

>>377188504
I enjoyed this post.

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>>377183341
>mfw East Coast babies have been crying on the forums and everywhere else

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I feel like Reinhard every single goddamn day playing this game.

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>>377191217
>there are now people in NA who have higher ping than me in NZ

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>new SMN spell in the bechmark
>SMNs get hyped for Megaflare
>it's Kiloflare

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>>377188504
>>377190909

>>377191371
How's your NZ ping?

>>377191513
144ms

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>>377183341
>killing your game to please a bunch of gay trannies and chinses
SB deserve to fail.

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>>377191217

>>377171545
Someone needs to explain Ragnarok to me. I tried it out over Christmas last year and personally I thought it was shit. Absolutely in love with the art style, but apart from that I disliked it. It was just so fucking grindy, holy shit. And yes, I did try a private server version with better drop rates afterwards. I still didn't like it.

>>377190338
That's pretty funny. XI is a clunky game in today's standards but it has lived for 15 years for a reason and still sits as one of squares most profitable games.

>About 200 ping from EU
Eh, it's bad but will probably be playable with Mudfish.

>>377191217
>mfw I put in PF "No bonus and no east coast laggers"
lmao

>>377188675
>>377188675
Enjoy being a worse DRK clone then.

Cast bars are great for adding variety anon.

I can't wait to never play nin again!

>>377192726
We want fun variety not tedious variety.

>>377187234
haha get fucked my eastern coast brother
you can always unsub or keep playing like the cucks we are

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>people still think we know where the servers are for sure

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>>377181563
>and completing eliminating EU players on Aether
I'd complain about them returning to the EU server to further shit it up, but I'm positive it can't legitimately get any worse.

>>377190338
>I remember the releases though and XI was hype as fuck while XIV was nonstop complaining about how everything was shit and nothing worked right.
My experiences on XI and XIV forums were the exact opposite.

All I heard from XI discussions was constant WoW comparisons (since it was the new hotness at the time), and how it was tooo haaaard and they needed to make it easier. A lot of people were happy when parties dropped skillchains and magic bursts, and allowed them to do book farming parties without any gear. While most XIV talk I've seen outside /v/ has been (mostly) positive.

Though the idea of /v/ championing some nostalgic title and shunning a newer one should come as a surprise to nobody.

>>377193358
ive taken the yoshi dick for over 3 years, i doubt ill stop now. sucks though they dont give two shits about na players. Still dealing with gil spam in city states but oh well

>>377181005
>I mean, they took all the in-depth stuff and just threw it away in favour of casual shit.
Yeah... just like XI did.

Servers going up in 4m, at 11:15. PST

Can't wait to play with delicious <10 ms ping

>>377193636
They're in Hawaii

s e r v e r s
u p
p

>>377193636
neolobby04.ffxiv.com can be pinged and trace routed now.

TCP connections on port 55007 on IP ranges 204.2.229.81-91 are in the same cluster. This is undeniable at this point.

Servers are in Sacramento California.

>Now you can transfer with 10 million gil on you
>and 5 million gil on your retainer

wew nice

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>>377193636
>east coast defense force posters are still shilling

servers are up

>>377195695
Oh they actually are, I just tried 3m ago and thought this was a ruse.
Thanks.

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>square enix confirmed for next level retards
yes of course

MMORPG is such a fucking dead genre

Please someone with knowledge of what made MMORPG games good 7-10 years ago plz help us

save us from the autism

>240 latency through resmon

fug. At least I didn't hit level cap I guess.

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>>377195553
>neolobby04.ffxiv.com
>140ms
>Previously 80ms

>>377196136
>Can only go to 120ms with battleping
it hurts

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>>377196136
>220
>used to be 130
>sub just auto renewed

Oh fuck off SE, now I can't use 2 ogcd without eating in the gcd.

>>377196552
>was 60 ms
>now 110 ms
Feels bad

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>tfw tracert takes 31ms to reach Sacramento at most and ping has a maximum 39ms
>mfw worst coaster tears

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I don't notice any changes at all.

Ping went from 130 to 205, but routing is much better. Overall it feels like nothing changed but subtly I suspect it's not that good.

Unreal, only SE could possibly fuck this up that much.

>internal berserk clips into the gcd now
yes thank you SE you are the greatest.

>California servers

Wow amazing, going from one extreme to the other sure is HELLA FUCKING EPIC

>>377197058
Same here, it's the worst...

montreal was shit and this is shit too

>>377171545
ragnarok basically has chocobos too for knights as i remember

EU servers are up bois

God dammit, even B4B+IR clip with GCD on my MNK now

>abilities react seamlessly and immediately when I press them one after another
Holy shit is this what I've been missing? I heard about people using 2 oGCD between abilities but I could only get one to work seamlessly. It's our turn now thank you based Yoshi_P I'm buying 4 SB packs.

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>tfw finally experiencing being able to do double GCDs

Holy fuck.

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>>377197890
>>377197490
IT WAS MINE
WHY DID YOU TOOK IT
GIVE IT BACK

Are texas or chicago infrastructure so fucked/expensive that SE had no choice but to put the servers on west coast?
Or they just hate everyone?

>>377171545
>elemental resistances
there is, you even pick on character creation
>gear with various stats
there is (det, crit, skill spd, spell spd)
>gear customization
materia
>spell customization
you got me there
>healing kills undead
this doesnt even make sense

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/fee198ff2f37cd22f5b138f7672360440abe9651
Enjoy your refugees Primal.

>>377198535
SE always makes bad decisions. This is just another one.

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>>377198672
>Transfers to the following Worlds will be suspended until their active player populations have stabilized.

>WAS 140 ping
>now 23
i live in vegas btw

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Well, enjoy your buff everyone.
Does anyone know any good vpn I could use?
I heard pingzapper was pretty good.

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>tfw the distance from me to montreal is about the same as me to california

Who else /nothingchanged/?

>>377199746
>I'm gonna feel smug because I lucked out while other people got fucked over despite the situation being completely out of my control

I have no idea how SE work but wouldn't putting one server in the east and the second one int he west be a better idea?

>>377199890
It would cost more

>>377171545
>us

fucking weeb get out

>>377199890
while that is the best, I'm sure it takes a lot more money to set up another data center, which, knowing SE, they won't

also holy shit have you people never played another multiplayer game or what
if you're in NA then the ping can't be that much worse and if you're outside NA you'd have gotten used to the ping already

>>377200067
In the end it's fine, just the shitposters are using this as excuse to shitpost the night away.

>>377200067
It was 130 to Montreal. Workable.
It went to 205 in Sacramento. No longer competitive.
It's that simple. It got worse. There's nothing to get used to. It's just not good for me anymore. Yes, it's that much of a difference.

>>377200142
General Purpose Jet Black Dye has been sent to your account.

>>377171545
Both games are garbage, and so is 11.

>>377189906
>tfw live in Bay Area

You will die of AIDs before the data center is finished anyways.

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>>377199848
EAST
COAST
BABBY

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Hey guys, I'm gonna subscribe for the first time

If anyone wants to give me their recruitment code now is the time

>>377201602
Do you have a throwaway email?

>>377201602
>D3RCZUMK
Here you go.

>>377171545
I miss RO.

But I couldn't play it nowadays.

DQ and SB threads for people who interested
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/484066328.htm
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/484092407.htm
>>377171901
>There is a reason FF11 will be remembered
It will be remembered as one of the worst mmo in the history of genre
Even japs prefered f2p korean games to it
SHould tell everyone enough about quality of poorly made EQ ripoff

>>377203349
Yes, I too, am retarded.

>>377203349
>It will be remembered as one of the worst mmo in the history of genre
XI will only be remembered by the most extreme of XI-fags. A lot of people who played the game, even if they enjoyed it, now go "Eh, it was okay. Community was nice, the game was kinda shit."

But the fanboys praise it as the second coming of Christ, despite XI actively removing what apparently made it so great as time went on. By the time WotG started, nobody was doing skillchains or magic bursts with other players, most of the subjob options were boiled down to 1 or 2, and EXP parties would move to Book farming. Where nobody used any gear because 'whats the point lol'. Even XIV with its barely varied stats is leagues better than what XI was in that period.

XI has gotten better since then, but it's still a shell of its former self, which wasn't even all that great. Nostalgia is a powerful drug.

>>377202005
I don't.

My country's server is full of the local equivalents of niggers, and bots ran by the local equivalents of kikes.

I'd rather the memories remain memories than be tarnished.

Because theme park MMOs are garbage.

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>>377204214

>>377171545
sounds like a korean mmo BTFO'd a japannemo in useless shit stats. WHEEEEEEE WHO CARES LOLLLLLL

>>377191217
>things that never mattered, the reply, to the post, to the movie, the game.

>>377206582
>replying to a 4 hour old post

sssssalt

>>377206609
>things that never mattered, the reply, to the post, to the movie, the game.

>>377204301
don't feel alienated, americans feel the same way about... everything.

>>377194881
Sll the in depth stuff is still in 11, it's just entirely ignorable now. It's a bad situation to be sure, but it's not the same as just making a game dumb by design in the first place.

Even F2P Korean MMOs are better than XIV. Sad.

>>377206609
>everything after 4 hours is irrelevant
ok

>>377207962

stop with the salt

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>200ms before server changes
>still 200ms after server changes

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>>377208202
Floridafag here, I went from 125ms to 118ms.

>>377172587
>people unironically defend this

>>377198664
>>healing kills undead
>this doesnt even make sense
this is an old-school mechaninc imported from P&P games, like D&D where you didn't actually heal with "healing spells", you had spells that did "positive energy" damage, that actually healed living beings, and "negative energy" damage that actually damaged living biengs.
Undeads, being made of "negative energy" instead of positive had this scheme reversed, getting damaged by heals and getting cured by some higly specific spells (usually necromancy ones).
This mechanic can be seen in older FFs, there's a boss in FFx who can be beaten with heals only

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>go to pick up Dun Scaith weekly quest
>I didn't finish last weeks one

>wake up
>another shill thread on /v/

Didn't we give these guys /vg/ for a reason? Go shill your games there, I don't need to read arguements about WoW vs XIV or HotS vs [Insert Moba here] every two hours.

>>377209585
You read these threads?

>>377209627
Normally I just ignore them, but goddamn I can only take so much before I gotta commit the sin and complain.

>>377209585
>we give these guys /vg/
Pretty sure you didn't

>>377198672
>built a wall and made gilg/balmung pay for it
based YoshiP

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>>377171545
>ragnarok
>no chocobos

>>377171545
I even forgot that ffxiv had attribute points

>mfw on the east coast and still get <100ms

kay.

>>377171545
Out of all the things on that chart, the only ones that actually matter for a Final Fantasy are spell customization and chocobos. Everything else is irrelevant.

How do you check your ping?

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>>377210492
>mfw I live in Cali and get less than 30ms.

>>377210658
you don't need 30ms to erp.

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>>377210492
>tfw 11ms EU
>free transfer to new servers
>no german and french fucks
>free game time
>free exp boost
>free slots

>EU is so alive that we need new servers

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>20ms ping to 110ms

>>377171545
Just came back after stopping last January.

Can someone tell me why food is now so cheap? I'm not complaining. I have lots of money. Just want to know why this happened.

For example Priestly Omelettes. Are the ingredients easier to get now?

>>377210906
Raiding is dead until Stormblood so there's no reason to buy a lot of it, or to buy the expensive food.

What's the address of the new servers?

>>377210906
More supply, less demand.

>>377210962
123 fakestreet, north korea.

>>377207962
It is with a reply like that

>>377211021
I want to ping them

>>377210736
what are they thinking?

>>377172981
>I don't even know what the game is like today but I'm guessing it's a mess.

there's been a ton of QoL changes that make it bearable so long as you don't mind the retarded-as-fuck gearing/syntax system.

>>377171545
>spell customization
>stat customization
>branching jobs
>final fantasy

u wot, just because they're in one or two games doesn't make them traditional FF elements

this is a shill thread isn't it?

>be a br
>ping went from 200 to 320
How? I thought the servers were moving closer to me.

>I was defending the transfer yesterday
Thanks SE. Guess I'll just go back to WoW.

>>377211410
That's right. Back to ragnaros, you favela monkey.

>>377211410
>Thanks SE. Guess I'll just go back to WoW.
Thank you based SE for getting rid of BRs

>>377211410
>being a BR

HAHAHA SEEYA BITCH

>>377211535
Don't forget to cry for better content and better budget.

Just got DRK to 60, gimme some tank glamour ideas

>>377171545
>be AST
>Draw Balance
>Spread
>Draw Balance again

DO I ROYAL ROAD THEN USE IT ON A DPS OR DO I DISCARD IT.

>>377211847
>spreading

Stop this

>>377211847
Depends.
>4m
RR and throw it on the DPS if they're actually outDPSing you on your healer
>8m
throw it on #1 and hope for ewer or spyre next re/draw.

>>377210736
Thanks for keeping XIV alive yuropoors.

>44ms ping on EU servers
>180ms ping on NA servers (but NA servers actually have people talking)

Should I bite the bullet and change to where there aren't frogs everywhere and some Irish players?

>balmung is on suicide watch because they can't transfer more alts or invite RPers from other games anymore
>they're talking about making an EU RP server now
Time for you to share in our suffering, eurocucks

>>377212359
You're welcome. Sorry about our performance though.

>>377211410
It's actually further away. Check your trace route it's probably bouncing you to Europe first. The rest of South America have that problem.

>>377196065
MMO's are truly dead. Shit like Wowhead is actually what killed them. MMO's only worked because so many people played blind and had so little information to go in so group discovery became a driving force for the formation of a good community. Nowadays everything is datamined to hell and back everyone is looking at the ideal rotations and builds and just competing with each other.

>>377212436
More like time to change to WoW where you're allowed to play on any server you want with friends.

>>377211847
If you royal road it and then use the balance you're holding, you're casting a single 150% potency balance.
If you use the balance you just drew and use the one you're holding, you end up casting two 100% potency balances.
If you use the balance you just drew, wait for an ewer or a spire, royal road THAT and then use the balance you've been holding, then you cast a 50% potency balance on 8 people.
You can figure out the logical conclusion, I'm sure.

Never burn a balance you big dummy.

>>377212675
Yeah and have literal 30m login queues to pay for it.

>>377210314
>chocobos

Are we actually back?

ded gaem
ded chan
ded thred

Where's my refunded day? My sub ended today but i didn't get a refunded day, did i get fucked or do i have to redeem it somehow?

>excellent to ""good""
>160ms
>ninja is fucking unplayable
I want the west coast at the bottom of the sea

>>377211410
>How? I thought the servers were moving closer to me.
Okay so, I know it's fucking weird but, you're actually closed to east coast than west coast.

>>377213312
Same thing lad. Though I'm on an EU account so I don't know if that counts

>160ms to 300ms

im gonna fucking kms

>People on the forums claiming 100-200 ping is just fine
>Theyre all ex roulette heroes and probably never stepped into a savage raid pre echo

Holy fuck I just started HW and the quests are still the same.
>do errands
>teleport to Ishgard
>use aetheryte to The Last Vigil
>go inside Manor

I fucking hope Stormblood msq is fucking streamlined this time.

>>377213334
Same here.
Clipping berserk and IR with GCD is the worst.

>Balmung and Gilgamesh finally being fully closed, no new characters, no transfers
>Will have login limits when SB releases
About time they did something.

>>377213408
>expecting hackida to change

>>377213401
That's the kind of faggot who never though about double ogcd.

>Made things worse for Canadians, Europeans, east coast
>But at least the Californians and the 10 people living in Hawaii and Australia are a bit happier

>eastern stater who lives close enough to canada that i could easily walk to it if i wanted
>same ping when the servers move to california

literally magic

>>377213485
Part of it has to do with ISP, routers, etc. I have a ping of 85 while someone one city over from me has a ping of 160 to the server.

Ragnarok has pecopecos though which are just like chocobos

>>377213470
>Bawwww my ping went from 90 to 100! This game is dead to me!
>Everyone else been playing with 200 ping this whole time and just adapting.
It's especially amusing because people have been bitching about the servers being in Canada for literally fucking forever.

EU master race wins again.

>>377213565
So the answer was to move from one extreme to the other and take turns in the suffering?

>>377213565
>I have been 200ping this whole time xDDD
>check his lodestone
>diabolic and kinna weapon

>>377213651
The change for people on the east coast is negligible. They have no duty to keep the NA servers playable for EU people. Those people can go back.

I came here expecting a RO thread. Now I'm leaving disappointed.

>>377213401
B-but YoshiP said the game is designed with 220 in mind! Double weaving is cheating!

>>377213749
Good. Good!

>>377213764
What is this double weaving shit youre talking about

>>377213798
Using two abilities between each GCD.

>>377212638
It is.

Guess it'll be fixed soon.

Why didn't they just move one of those to west coast, so that east plebs can have good ping still?

>>377213798
Being able to do two off global cooldown animations (raging strikes, bloodletter, etc...) in within something that triggers the global cooldown (for example, most melee skills, bio, aero, etc...)

Clipping is considered when you use off global cooldown skills or said OGCDs are still recovering, while your global cooldown is finished and you would otherwise be able to use your next normal skill.

>>377213903
It may never :') get mudfish or another vpn

>>377213798
Using two off GCD skills between global cooldowns.

>>377171545
korean no social

>>377213927
I literally live on the opposite side of the country yet I'm getting better results than some of the people I know closer to the center. It's really weird and this move helps fucking nobody

Goodbye ninja, it is commies turn to have fun.

What MMOs allow me to be spear using class?

>>377214201

XIV funnily. Its shit to level early on but its rotation is pretty nice at endgame

I'm on the east coast and I can double weave just fine at 120ms.

Seems to be only affecting people with 200+ ping aka yuropoors and people not in USA

>>377214262
Poor South Americans.

>>377214201
DRG in FF14 and Survival hunter in WoW. The latter is a pretty terrible class to be though in my opinion

>>377213927
>Why didn't they just move one of those to west coast, so that east plebs can have good ping still?

tl;dr their Japanese DC company is NTT
When they chose a new DC company in the US they also chose NTT
Coincidence? Don't think so!

>>377214476
What does that mean?

>>377214084
Distance =/= Latency. The two are often correlated but there's more to it than that. A direct fiber link to the opposite side of the country will have less lag than a connection that goes to a server in the same building but has to go through 10 routers to get there.

It all depends on the routes, which is why some people get higher ping despite being physically closer, while others get lower ping despite being physically farther away. It's all based on routes and many ISP networks are probably still in the middle of updating their routing tables to find the best ones.

>>377214594
(((japanese people)))

>>377214594
They chose the company they're already dealing with and saved money by not splitting it up. How it would affect the players was not their concern, only short-term monetary goals.

>>377214678
Yeah that sounds like a Japanese company.

Will Balmung finally die?

>>377188534
What's happening in this webm?

>>377214808
Why would Balmung die? They are the one defending the change, they do not play the game, 30ms, 100ms, 400ms, make no difference to them.

>>377213458
>>377213401
>>377213798
This double weaving meme should be removed in Stormblood.

>>377214262
No, you're clipping for a few milliseconds sorry.

>>377214960
literally unplayable

>>377214915
They should set the minimum animation lock for all oGCD skills except mudras to 1.3 seconds so that double weaving is impossible.

>>377214915
How? Make it so off GCDs have a hard coded delay to be fair?

>>377214262
So it either didn't change or made things worse for most people.

But hey, the new city doesn't have loading zones! Worth it!

>>377215026
They already have hard-coded delay, it's called animation lock. That's why you can't double-weave certain moves like Jump.

>>377214886
Transfers will be clocked to Balmung.

>>377191984
First GREAT mmo

Mostly nostalgiafagging though

>>377214262
>seems to be affecting a lot of people still but thats fine lol

>>377214654
I hope you're right anon, I can't afford a server transfer for when my friends all make an exodus to a different data center

>>377204214
>But the fanboys praise it as the second coming of Christ, despite XI actively removing what apparently made it so great as time went on. By the time WotG started, nobody was doing skillchains or magic bursts with other players, most of the subjob options were boiled down to 1 or 2, and EXP parties would move to Book farming.

...which is why the population began to decline around then. It held a steady 500k until WOTG. Square began to fuck off, people left. Abyssea killed the population.

Some people have recently returned _because_ Square began to add back the "old" FFXI mechanical designs. Seriously. Go look up the population chart and look at the expansions you're talking about.

>>377214886
They're finally disabling all character creation AND transfers to Balmung, and when stormblood launches there is going to be a limit on concurrent logins so the servers don't just crash. Basically because everyone decided to cram into Balmung and Gilgamesh, probably most of them won't even be able to play SB at launch unless they transfer off.

>>377215026
They already have a 1s hard coded delay between OGCDs, which is why you're allowed to double weave as the GCD is over 2s.

Just increase it to 1.5s or something.

It' not even about being fair, it's about making the game less button mashy.

>>377214262
>I can double weave just fine at 120ms.
Try it on ninja in an instance.

>>377215214
Whats the point of calling something an ogcd if its on a regular mmo gcd?

>>377171545
XIV does that shitty vertical gear treadmill that everyone has a month after an update when it should have copied XI's horizontal progression and made gear swapping a thing again. This keeps old content relevant and makes rare gear a thing to be admired.

>>377194881
>Yeah... just like XI did.

XI did after about 6 years.
FFXIV lasted about 2 years, then they nuked the planet and replaced it with casual WoWshit.

>>377215245
Ninjas will clip any ninjutsu that requires more than 1 mudra, regardless of ping. Even if you lived in the datacenter and plugged directly into the server, you'd still clip Raiton because of animation lock, there's no getting around it.

>balmung mad that they cant invite new people to erp with them
haha get fucked

>>377214365
Whats the deal with SA routing to cali anyway? I mean isnt that literally half as close as montreal used to be? It should be better no?

>>377215284
The same as calling something "enrage" when it wipes you instantly, as in, FFXIV players are fucking clueless

>>377215302
but then people who invest more time in the game than me will be rewarded more and that's just awful

>>377215348
Girl, it is much worse than before, even shuriken kind of clip now and kassatsu takes 2 seconds to work, ninja is unplayable.

>>377215284
It's not officially called oGCD in-game, those cooldowns are called "abilities". Weaponskills and spells follow the regular GCD which is 2.5s while abilities follow a smaller timer which is 1.5s or lower.

>>377215284
it already has a practical gcd (animation lock)

making it last for a more solid timing wont change what it is

>>377215460
If you are still playing from Europe maybe, in which case maybe play on the servers in your own continent.

>forum post already said game is playable up to 200ms
>sperging everywhere

>>377215302
This. XIV should've copied XI. XI literally has more subscribers than XIV.

>>377215558
Old game

>>377215537
Its an endless war between people who play actual endgame content and dungeon heroes.

>>377171545
This list isn't fair, RO has Chocobos too.

>>377215528
I live in east canada, where the servers used to be, it is too much of a big change for me, game is unplayable and irresponsible trash now.

Do you think we will get another 3.0-3.1 disaster in Stormblood?

>>377215245
Works fine for me at 120ms. Just did a bunch of suitons with no delay in Thordan ex farm.

>>377215680
100% yes

What is Ragnarok like? Is it free? Will I like it if I liked XIV?

>>377215652
Yeah, because people who play actual endgame content are complete spergs who will call the game unplayable if their DPS is reduced by 0.001 as a result of a 1 millisecond GCD clip every two minutes.

>>377215680
It's the same amount of content HW released with, the question is will 4.1 come too late and be a disappointment or not.

>>377215558
Why maintain two online games for the exact same audience when you can have two game for two completely different audiences?

>>377215680
No, Yoshi admitted the gap between 3.0 and 3.1 was a mistake and won't let the entire team take a holiday.

>>377215680
I got a bad feeling they are going to pull another diadem on us

Do people think complaining on the forums and threatening to quit is going to make a company do another multi million dollar relocation suddenly?

>>377215767
completely different games
RO is a grindy click-based MMO with a good soundtrack and can be played for free (pserver recommended), might have fun if you bring friends

>>377215558
>Lets compete with ourselves!
Even XI in its prime didn't achieve much more than 500k subscribers (though it did so for a very long time).

Makes way more sense and money to make two different MMOs and run them both at a pretty cheap rate. Especially XI. There's a few people who even double dip in subbing for both.

1.23 was better

>>377215858
I hope they figured how to stagger holidays. No doubt after the end of 1.0 through the launch of 3.0 Yoshida had his team working nonstop.

>>377215914
it's probably going to be forgiven when the inventory expansion hits

because goddamn i am running out of spaces for fancy hats for my waifu

>>377214886
an FC mate has an alt on Balmung and mentioned how a portion of them considers moving to Chaos. Told her to try and get them to pick one of the new worlds that'll be added.
Or Moogle

>>377215960
Maybe just do it the way literally every other company on earth does it and have people take leave at different times?

>1.0 servers were in Japan, fucking unplayable for half the world
>let's just do that a again, but not really

>>377215969
The inventory expansion is literally just 10 slots in each armory tab and 40 extra inventory. That means nothing to an avid glamour collector.

>>377215767
Ragnarok used to be an open world (dungeons included) grindfest with zero hand-holding involved and very little quests outside of unlocking features and lore. Now the game have EXP-focused quests and all the hand-holding they could fit in the old engine. And it's also F2P now (used to be P2P).

>Will I like it if I liked XIV?
I like both (well, I liked Ragnarok, never gave a fair chance to Renewal update), but they are completely different games.

Ragnarok has chocobos

>>377216063
Supposedly it's just an initial expansion to see how the servers handle it, then they'll add more based on the results.

>>377215909
Already confirmed, it's called Eureka

>>377216063
We will get that on release, but they promised more on future patches.

>>377215969
>40 slots
Fucking nothing with the hundreds of new items that will add

>>377216118
>>377216140
Yeah hold on lemme put that on the list of Yoshi's broken promises.

>>377215959
praisetanaka.jpg

>>377216175
Tanaka was long gone by then

>>377216128
What's the lowdown on Eureka? All I know is it's a FF3 reference so I'm kind of interested.

>>377216158
>list of Yoshi's broken promises
Post it, I need to improve my shitposting skills before the next "WoW is better" phase hits the thread.

>>377216209
BUT HIS VISION LIVED ON

WHEN ARE THE MODS GOING TO FORCE THESE THREADS BACK TO /VG/ WHERE THEY BELONG? THIS SHIT IS TOO OBVIOUS

>>377215680
>>377215757
>>377215779
>>377215858
>>377215909

As someone who just started HW.
Can you guys explain.

>>377216301
NEVER

EAT SHIT

TRUMP WON

>>377216231
Basically just Diadem 2.0 as far as we know. A zone dedicated to grinding.

>>377215652
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/324894-so-yeah-whole-thing-was-pointless-and-we-got-triple-ping-10-10-%28100ms-unplayable%29

>shire hero

>>377208303
Also FL fag, haven't checked ping but went from Excellent condition to Good.

>>377216231
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14SbRI6EBkgUfQxaQM-qIwN7c__Hvuk4vW6VN11OlKUo/pub
>Eureka's Theme will be Exploration and Growth
>Expansion of Exploratory Missions
>Stormbloods Relic Weapon will be upgraded in Eureka.
>Using Play Data and Feedback of Diadem 2.0 as reference for Eureka.
>May have NMs on 72-hour spawn timers