Why are computers dying?

>>377168105
Because multiple people have computers or a tablet.
More people are making their own PC as well.

>>377168243
Pretty much this. Although I sorta doubt that people building their own PCs would have a big impact.

Also >>>/g/

Too expensive for what the gaming market is releasing.
Nobody wants to drop 3k on 3 nvidia titans since no games even take advantage of them, most PC games are console ports therefor inferior.

>>377168105
The answer is right there in your image.

people would rather buy a new tablet and phone every year.

also, portable computing was always desirable among casuals.

cuz smartphones, which are basically computers aswell

>>377168105
normies don't change their machine until it literally stop working. so now that like 95% of each house has a machine nobody gets a new one even if the current one takes 2 hours to boot and can't run minecraft.

>>377168105
Most people already have PC's and its good enough to play LoL and CSGO they don't need another one.

Because they're harder to use than an idiot-proof phone / tablet which stops you from meaningfully changing any settings or having any real power so that you can't fuck it up. Your average user wants something which works within very narrow constraints but can't be fucked up than something which offers their user real power.

PC gaming is bigger than it has ever been, but that's always been a niche.

t. I work in IT and regularly deal with "normal people" who use computers for stuff. I'm kinda glad they use their tablets for everything because then I don't have to fix their computers after they tried to fix things themselves and found themselves balls deep in shit they didn't understand and made the problem worse.

>>377168451
>smartphones, which are basically computers
Dude no, a smartphones doesn't provide anything a computer can do. Like actually generating content.

cpus got smaller and more efficient. eventually for non gaming, general office use, computers will essentially be a big ass tablet than you plug a keyboard and mouse into and a variety of other small iot devices.

these articles showing declining shipments are from oems like dell and hp who have pivoted more towards tablets recently and away from "tower and monitor" setups. enthusiasts and "gamers" assemble their own pcs and that doesn't count towards overall shipments that these articles mention.

The low end $350 Dell/HP shitbox with a shit CPU and no GPU that not normies buy to "browse the webm is dying because smartphones and because old computers can do that fine so there is no need to upgrade your Facebook machine every 3 years. The gaming PC market is as strong as its ever been.

PCs last for years, you dont buy one annually

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>>377168371
>Nobody wants to drop 3k on 3 nvidia titans since no games even take advantage of them
That's where you're wrong family.
PC sales have been in a slump, but AIB (graphics card) sales are through the fucking roof.
And notably non-OEM AIB sales, OEMs are basically irrelevant outside of laptops and they're fucked if anyone ever manages to make a tablet that's not either fucking trash or horribly expensive.

>>377168629
>Dude no, a smartphones doesn't provide anything a computer can do. Like actually generating content.
Most computer users don't generate content beyond emails and facebook posts.

>>377168105
People don't buy computers anymore, they buy computer parts.

everyone already have a decent computer. I think the problem here is Intel is intentionally being slow on improvements and keeping chip prices incredibly high giving people a reason not to upgrade. The only people who need new computers are actual people working in tech.

>>377168105
>>/g/
MODS MODS MODS

>>377168105
because more and more people are becoming more informed that buying premade PCs is fucking braindead retarded, and you don't need a laptop when you have a smartphone.

>>377168105
normies can get along just fine with smartphones and tablets.

it's good for us in a way and bad for us in a way.

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Normies only care about phones and wont stay inside to type on a keyboard.
Normies dont like carrying Laptops except for maybe college.
PC fags build their own.

Now only offices, and boomers who want to use 'The google" and "The facebook" buy PC's and laptops.

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pre built pc sales, yes

pc parts bought for pc building have seen the highest profit of all time

also ITS GETTING HOT

>>377168105
>muh market growth

You are still making millions hand over fist faggots i hate this crocodile tears bullshit. Computers are fast enough these days that you dont have to upgrade them as often, thats a good thing and this isnt news.

>>377168629
You know that most people in the nineties and 2000's most people used their computer for stupid shit. Chatrooms, myspace, and what ever predated that I don't know shit about social media. Now that their phones allow them to stalk their friends from any where there is no need for most of them to even own a computer.

>why are laptops dying?
because they all ship with windows 10 on them and are completely unusable

>>377168931
>50c gpu idle at desktop
>42c hdds

damn son where you at?

>>377168740
>Gaming GPUs make more money in a single quarter than OEMs do in over 2 and a half years
Kek

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>>377168105
>Article is in reference to laptops and pre-built desktops
>PC gaymin is dying

Get fucked you dolt!!

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stop using electricity

>>377169223
arizona

>>377168105
Windows 8 was released five years ago

>>377169365
>games workshop bag in the background
stop playing with little plastic dolls

>>377168105
w10 is shit so people stopped updating and macs hardly change

>>377168105
How do they quantify a "PC sale"?

Unless you're just buying a cheap computer for work or something of a similar nature you rarely have to buy an entire new prebuilt computer outside of replacing a broken one.
If you factor in the people that build high end computers either for gaming or the kind of work that would need a more powerful computer like rendering shit or processing loads of data often times you can just swap out parts if what you've got doesn't satisfy your requirements which might put down the numbers for computer product sales. Not that those numbers would be simple to quantify either, but often times this kinda shit has really lazy data collection behind it you can't just glean from a title and opening blurb.

>>377168930
most boomers I know already switched to mobile for google and facebook

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>Prebuilts are dying
>While individual parts are skyrocketing, specially GPUs

Excelent news.
Also they are not consoles, it's not neccesary to buy an entirely new one every couple years.

Nothing to see here, only turboautists would consider this something even remotely close to the PC Master Race Gaming dying.

>>377168105
Because pre builds are for normies and they now prefer shit like tablets most people that want a pc for gaming built it "gaming laptops" is a dead meme

html and "the web" is dying too. mobile is all apps.

>>377169897
The prebuilts really are doomed.

>>377168931
please post your wallpaper

>>377168740
Tablets will never not be shit, and the ones that aren't are basically just laptops with detachable screens or pull-out keyboards.
They're not exceptionally more portable than a laptop (like a phone) and they're not as good for actual productivity as a laptop, so they end up being pretty much useless.
A laptop with a touchscreen is infinitely superior to a similarly-sized tablet.

>>377168629
>can't generate content
>Snapchat, Facebook Live, Twitter, mobile apps for quick video editing and effects
It works for the low-end mass market just fine.

>>377168105
Because OS's are becoming Orwellian shit shows and hardware has hit a plateau of usefulness for normies meaning they have no real incentive to upgrade their own systems.

>>377168105
Console converts fell for the Master Race meme and so even PC devs were reduced to making the equivalent of console trash.

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>>377168931
my dick needs this wallpaper for megumin

Mobile phones and tablets. The campaign to kill handhelds also has an effect on computers.

>>377169717
wtf I like Varg now. I still won't give up my faith though. But I agree with majority of what he says.

Because phones are half the price.

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>>377168547
>Co-worker asks me "hey anon you're good with computers can you take a look at my computer, it's really slow"
>it's some bargin bin laptop from 2002 running Windows XP that gets the CPU pegged at 100% usage opening a web page

>>377169994
It really isn't. That "mobile is all apps" thing you mentioned is an incredibly poor argument when many of those are just regular webpages in a different wrapper.

>>377170536
Backup, reformat, reinstall. That'll fix it

>>377170374
wow man thats really cool that you got a boner how about looking for it yourself

>>377170374
>>377170063
It took me 30 seconds to find the sauce on that and I didn't even use image search.
Do you niggers not know what sankakucomplex is?

>>377170814
A fresh install isn't going to make a really old CPU like that preform any better. Webpages have gotten lots of javascript and such put into them over the years bloating the shit out of them. A very old CPU will struggle to run all the bloated shit on a modern day facebook feed.

>>377168382
This
I haven't used my PC in months, I just use my phone or tablet.
Currently browsing /v/ on my SmartTV

people who were buying laptops and computers for facebook are now just buying phones and tablets

>>377168105
Because everyone already has a computer, they don't account for upgrading parts. This also includes custom build computers which are also not part of the statistics.

So really the article is saying "People are not buying pre-built computers".

>>377168105
Cause Macs are shit and Microsoft is trying to turn Windows into an even more retarded version of Mac.

Fuck off /g/ !

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And when every device is super, heh heh... none of them will be.

>>377168105
I'm pretty sure this is just counting prebuilt computers.

Because I buy used laptops, just got a fucking hell of a deal on a Dell xps 15

>>377168105
because people released the only computing device they really need is a smartphone. that and the fact that even the oldest of computers can run a browser comfortably (again, browsing being the only computing application the majority of people care about)

>>377171443
not to mention the gpu acceleration in basically every web browser

"A computer in every home,'

Only so many homes, Jim

>>377168105
This is stupid. Most people don't have a use for a computer that is more than $150 and will buy them on craigslist or keep their old ones and the people who do buy computers no longer buy them premade because it's much more inexpensive and a fairly simple procedure to pick your own parts.

>>377174064
It is excessively disappointing what Microsoft has done to Windows and really instills this deep sullen depression when I think about it.

My two main computers are still Windows XP

>>377168105
most people upgrade every 3 or 5 years

>>377168105

When it comes to the market for things that do what PCs do, the majority of the market is either:

-Ultra-casual/cheap, and thus are only interested in either Android/iOS tablets or very low-end Windows PCs

-Macfags

-Hardcore enthusiast, in which case you're most likely going to want to build your own machine out of parts rather than getting something pre-built.

>buying prebuilt pcs

hmmm

>>377168105
Thread summed it up pretty nicely. The only reason that people have to spend a lot on new computers is usually if they're gaming enthusiasts or if they need it for work, which tends to be a very small market because the mass majority of consumers just use their PCs to browse facebook and maybe type a couple things up.

You don't need a $1,000 laptop to browse and shitpost on the Internet. That obviously doesn't stop people, but it doesn't help that many companies lately (especially Apple, as usual), seem intent on making their new and decent laptops so far out of reach price wise for the average consumer (1300-1500 dollars) that most people are comfortable using their old PCs until they absolutely need a new one.

And even then, a tablet is more than enough for most people as well. I bought my mother an iPad for Mother's Day a few years back and its all she ever uses. She has no need for a laptop. Most consumers are like that.

>>377168105
Because for the average normie a phone or tablet now satisfy all of the needs that only a PC could in the 2000s. Plus it's highly portable.

>>377168105
>all the fags in this thread acting like most people are building their own PC's and even upgrading parts instead of just buying a new one or using their fucking phone/tablet

Some of you will defend such delusion

>>377168105
Because no one will pay $200 extra for a PC when you can build it yourself with parts of better quality and cheaper.

>>377175375
Oh yeah anon, regular people are For sure just building their own Pcs, its not smartphones and tablets at all.

>>377168105
Huge install market.
There hasn't been a technological lap significant enough in the last decade
Smartphones and """""intelligent""""" tvs

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>>377168931
>>377168931
hey hey someone else with a 4790k

>>377174774
>Running XP instead of Linux
Looks like you're retarded too.

>>377168931
Megumeme has a huge booty for a minmaxing glasscanon

>>377176160
Min breasts Max ass.

>>377168105
Businesses don't need top of the line computers to do what they do, a shit ton of them are reusing the same PC they've used for years and years because its only function is to open a sales program.

>>377168105
A gaming PC that can keep up with modern games is too expensive.

There's no need to upgrade your computer anymore unless you're doing niche things.

>>377168105
This is about pre-built computers, which more and more people are realizing is are the worst fucking things ever thought of.

More people are becoming more tech-savvy, making their own computers, at least I believe, I admittedly have no real evidence to back this up, but it seems logical.

This isn't happening because mobile or consoles are doing especially well or anything, this is just pre-builts being realized for the worst possible shit that they are.

>>377168105
desu i pretty much stopped using any of my laptops ever since I got a smartphone and especially after I got an android tablet, I only use a desktop PC in work nowadays

I always was a handheldfag though so the switch came naturally to me

>>377168105
Stagnating growth. There's not much you can do with a computer from today that you can't do with a decent computer from 5 years ago.

Software used to push and drive the hardware, but there isn't as much demand anymore. Even for gaming, not many titles are made to push computer hardware anymore.

>>377176889
>Even for gaming, not many titles are made to push computer hardware anymore.

That's because so many AAA games these days are made for console too, so basically they went backward in fidelity back to the early 2000s in order to support shit hardware.

>>377168105
Because people are building there own PCs. People that would buy prebuilt are buying tablets.

>>377168547
Seriously. the majority of prebuilt pc sales are for email and web machines. People have all that on their phones now. They may get a tablet too for at home browsing, but their needs are met with mobile devices now.

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>>377168105
lack of significant performance increase leads to stagnation of sales because all of a sudden there's no fucking reason to upgrade ever

this is my current set up, the only new thing i have is a 1070, and with that, it seems like i'll be surviving another 3-4 years of pc play because every new AAA graphics monster game is a waste of fucking space, and anything worth playing is either 2d or has less emphasis on graphics and compensates with, whoda thunk it, fun gameplay

>>377177050
Hell, even tablets make little sense with smartphones being somewhat larger now than they used to be. That or there are phones that are meant to be a tablet-phone hybrid, so that defeats the purpose of a tablet altogether.

>>377168105
>270m units
I am shocked it is that low. Let's consider only half of those are being used to game on (very conservative estimate) and you have 135m or less "gaming" computers. Add another 50m self-built rigs for gaming (again, very conservative) and the PC gaming market is less than 200m. Still a good deal more than consoles, but the argument that devs should focus a majority of their optimization budget on high-end PC is getting weaker and weaker every year.

Selling a Celeron build for the price of a i3 build with a shitty tier PSU and horrible cooling for planned obsolesce is not a great idea.

>>377177586
meh

>>377168629
This is so wrong.

In another 2 - 5 years the processor inside of a smartphone is going a head to head with desktop...

They are smartphones now with graphics better than most laptops.

>>377168105
This has nothing to do with gaming

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>don't need to replace the entire PC to upgrade
>lmaaao look PC sales are going down PC es ded xddx

>>377168105
Competition from phones and tablets.
I thought it was obvious.

I wouldn't say it's dying though, the home computer will never go away, just become more niche.

>>377168105
my phone does everything these days. and my laptop from 2011 still holds up

>>377177903
Even if smartphone CPU's did magically manage to get even remotely close to parity with desktop silicon (protip: they fucking won't), you're still hamstrung by the fact that you're on a phone. Modern tablets and handsets are theoretically very capable, but there are several very good reasons why nobody uses them for anything complex.

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>>377168105
Because of this

>>377168105
Diminishing returns.
Unless you're a gamer or into other resource-hungry stuff there's no reason anymore to upgrade frequently.

>>377179054
>memeware
Only affected business computers that were spread thanks to the lack of common sense in networks of outdated computers because companies couldn't be bothered to upgrade both software and hardware.
Or atleast spend some in security.

Good for the world. This garbage about increased sales every fucking year for shit that should last for years and years needs to stop.

>>377179017
It's actually all contingent on battery technology. We could make a 16 GB cellphone on par with a upper mid end gaming computer, the problem is the battery would drain in about 15 minutes (assuming it wouldn't blow up from too much wattage being used too quickly).

I'm in the market for a new cpu and as a result of it being 7 years old, and new MB. What's a good one to get these days?

>>377179786
Depends what you will do.
And since this is a board for games i assume you will play on it.

Any I5 and a B250 motherboard.
Ryzen is a option too but not the best unless there is a good deal.
Read logicalincrements.com

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>>377168105
Because PCs don't break within the first few days of launch.

>>377179017
Those reasons being:
Windows - the only thing its ever had going for it is its mass of legacy software, and on ARM that doesn't exist. The desktop software that does exist for GNU/Linux is often just as good, but it usually doesn't have the mindshare.
Phone makers - have no interest in adding features users would want if they were to use them as a desktop replacement like video out and keyboard hookups. Margins on phones are thin, while the margins on low end desktops like Chromebooks are actually better.

The hardware actually isn't the problem its long since passed the point where it can run normal desktop applications well even on extremely low end devices.

The best bet the convergence concept has is for hardware like the Raspberry Pi to keep improving. A future desktop/phone built around a future revision of the Pi Zero could work quite well.

no games.
PC gamers have to wait years between games to actually get something good to play.

they finally got bayonetta and vanquish and that took what? 7 years?

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>>377168105
>shipments
Well anyone with half a brain would know this, no one buys physical anymore because of shit like steam, this thread is bait for all you clueless kids

>>377179017
Most socs are far more efficient than any intel processor.

Only matter of time. Soc also advances far faster than intel. They are doubling in power every year.

In the future, Your only device is a smartphone where you simply plug to bigger screen at work or at home.

When mobile you simply unplug it and use it as a phone.

The switch basically.

In far further future... those phones will become glasses you wear or watches...

>>377180034
>The desktop software that does exist for GNU/Linux is often just as good

This is not true. Devs may love Linux and so all the technical software, e.g. DBMS, web servers, etc., may be best on Linux but for general user production software, e.g. word processors, 3D production software, audio production software, etc., you are going to find the software for Windows and Mac to be much, much better than anything the open source community has produced.

>>377177586
ill take the blue one

>>377168105
YT videos made it pathetically easy for normalfags to build their own.

>>377179097
Exactly right, the vast majority of business software or general end user targeted software already runs perfectly fine on sub $100 systems.
That's why Microsoft is changing Windows so drastically with 10 and the upcoming 10 S, there's no room for $30+ licensing fees for an OS in a world of $10 computers.

Those 7nm Ryzen 2+Navi SOCs AMD were talking up are going to change the industry even more than the Ryzen+Vega SOCs coming later this year will.

Because middle aged normies don't need PCs anymore. They just use their phones or ipads.

>>377168105
>overpriced prebuilts not selling as well as they used to

good riddance

>>377170070
Yeah, but normies fall for marketing bs and want a tablet because it's cool and le future/ star trek.

because there is literally no point in upgrading for normies and if they need new tech a phone is enough. as for vidya PC is rising but it doesn't look that way from these stats because they are talking about prebuilds

>>377179718
Even if you had some black magic batteries for it, it'd still be fucking massive because of the power delivery and cooling you have to run on that. Phone SoC's have a TDP of a couple watts, something on par with an "upper mid end gaming computer" will easily run you several dozen times that.

>>377168105
The prebuilt market will go business only. All consumers will build their own pc's in the future.

>>377168547
>tfw helping my dad on his 2003 PC that take 3 minutes to open chrome

>>377180482
>word processors
Libre Office is pretty damn good, as are a few of the other options.
Or you can just use the web stuff like Google Docs since there's really no reason not to.

>3D production software
With a few exceptions this is all on GNU/Linux, as is the entire rendering workflow.

>audio production software
Linux is really just missing the middle on this. The free software most users use even on Windows is available on GNU/Linux, and the really high end pro stuff is too. What's missing is the semi-pro stuff.

That's really the case with a lot of stuff when you start looking into it. Linux has free stuff that can fill the needs of most users, and pro stuff that fills the high end for people who can pay thousands of dollars, its missing the kind of middle of the road stuff used by a lot of semi-pro people and small businesses.

>>377168105
Normies don't need PCs to access facebook anymore.

>>377181137
>The prebuilt market will go business only. All consumers will build their own pc's in the future.

That seems unlikely. I like the car analogy.
If you look back 50 years there often wasn't a huge difference between race cars and mass production cars.
But the level of performance needed by the average driver didn't change.
So performance cars got rarer and more expensive which further diminished the market.
On top of that you saw diminishing returns where ever smaller increases in performance required ever increasing cost.

That's why 50 years ago you got stuff like barely modified Mini Coopers winning major races, while today you're talking about million dollar vehicles.
That's where the PC industry is going. SOCs capable of doing everything the average user wants including playing games at decent quality eating the majority of the market. With high performance discrete hardware occupying an ever smaller and more expensive niche.

>idiots in this very thread thinking phones will ever be as powerful as desktop computers
Outside of some magical new way of making processors that require little power and generate almost no heat, desktops will always be stronger

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>>377168105
>The numbers reflect traditional desktop and notebook computers
So they are only taking prebuilt into account for this study?
Come back when you have something worthwhile to shitpost about.

>>377168105

>prebuilt
>USA today

>>377181942
If we are talking about the average prebuilt PC and AIO PC, its easy.

A low-mid high end PC? not soon but for sure not now.

>>377182142
Assuming the prebuilt is using up to date hardware just like the phone you are comparing it to, it will never lose. Ofcourse there are shitheads selling weak prebuilts with old parts or just the weakest parts available

>>377181942
>desktops will always be stronger
That may be true, but how much of that strength does the average user really need?

The only reason the average person needs a desktop machine today is if they have some Windows x86 application they need to run. If they don't have that legacy investment there's very little reason for them to need a desktop.

Honestly the only reason I'm still on a desktop AMD64 machine is I fell back into PC gaming on GNU/Linux.

>>377168105
An aging population you autist

>all these people thinking normies build PCs
holy shit I didn't know /v/ had this many retsrds

>>377168105
Cell Phones.

Prebuilts are dying
This is a good thing

CPUs have made very little progress the past 5 years

GPUs too

Last year's computer still works.

>>377168105
PC sales are decline

PC part sales, not so much

every day more people realize they are getting fucking highballed with premades

>>377184428
GPUs have made huge progress, what kind of bait is this.

>>377168105
Now is this sales for pre built PCs or does this also include PC components? Could it be possible more people are simply building their own rather than paying for overpriced trash? At least those younger than 40, anyways. There's no real reason for an older person to own a full desktop pc when smartphones exist.

Anyone who wants a desktop nowadays will just build their own.

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>>377168931
>>377170063
>>377170374
>>377177586
>Pedophile shit
Wew lad

>>377170070
I have a tablet I got from a raffle.
It's pretty great desu

I don't use it for much power stuff, but it's useful.

>>377168451
smartphones arent computers, theyre nigga technology. computers can do actual work.

>>377184594
It's normies not buying new PCs because they already have one or they use their phone instead. PC part sales are almost all going to people who upgrade their PCs every few years and PC gaming is getting more popular, increasing the amount of people buying parts

>>377185356
I think the people who would have bought a desktop 10 years ago are the people who only need their phone these days. Most people building computers are using them to play games instead of browsing facebook or reading emails, which normies can do on their phones

>>377179054
i dont know a single person who actually got this

>>377168105
Tons of young people pretty much only use their phones and don't know how to use a computer

Older folks have laptops from ~5 years ago that are still good enough for most tasks today

>>377168105

>Technology improvements have not been sufficient to drive market growth.

That's it in a nutshell. People just don't need faster or more powerful machines than what they got two or three years ago. Mundane computers are too powerful to warrant replacing but once every five years or more now.

>>377186387

Only something like 200,000 computers were affected around the world if I remember correctly and it was largely people on outdated OS's. There's no reason you would know someone who was impacted unless you know a lot of idiots.

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My 10 year old build* is still handling most games coming out and is more than enough for browsing the interbutts

*GPU was changed like 4 years ago since the old one died

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>>377187886
I thought my rig was bad...

>>377176776
>More people are becoming more tech-savvy, making their own computers, at least I believe, I admittedly have no real evidence to back this up, but it seems logical.
You're 100% wrong

The retards who used to buy a Gateway shitbox now buy an iPad or a Chromebook, that's all there is to it

>>377168105
Normies

>>377168105
A two year old computer can still do 99% of the stuff a newly released computer can do. Manufacturers are having an increasingly difficult time convincing consumers they need a new computer.

>>377168629
Normies just consume, they don't create that's why consumer only computer like devices sell better.

>>377168105
Anyone else think that those were screenshots of Mario based on the thumbnail?

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>>377168105
Part sales are not dying. I'm doing a full upgrade of my PC soon, I pretty much haven't changed anything since my 2011 build except for the GPU. I'm fucking hyped to buy a 1080 Ti to power a 3440x1440 ultrawide.

>>377189203
Can I have your old parts?

>>377168105
they serve no purpose anymore

>>377168629
most computer users don't generate content, genius

>>377168105
"PC shipments" being what? Prebuild systems?

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>>377180482
>ui, usability
Yes, because they aren't autists
>optimization, customization, security, power-user options
No, because they aren't autists

Because all the people who only used their pc for emails, facebook or youtube now they can just use their phones.

>>377181408
>Libreoffice
I hate that I need to edit the background of presentations outside their powerpoint, for even shit like transparency, or that importing the file to ppt/pptx sometimes breaks the text format. Other than that, it's pretty cool

>>377174064
>>377174774
True. Wish I stayed with my Windows 7 instead of upgrading to Windows 10

That bug that makes the OS use 100% of your disk all the time and all other frivolous shit that Microsoft tries to shove on us is annoying. I just want a clean and simple OS that does the stuff that I need... What's so hard about that? I need no tablet-in-a-tower computer, geez

>>377168931
And that sucks
LED shit everywhere to attract normalfags

>>377168105
Way, way too expensive.

>>377191389
Just install 7 again?

Also is not a bug, every time you are idle Defender and updates and Telemetry data collection mode and other "maintenance" services kick in.

>>377168547
This is true. Our family computer took 30+ minutes to EXIT Battle for Middle Earth, when it first came out. We still have it now, just with an extra couple gigs of RAM. It didn't help much.

>>377169973
Is it possible to go to the top of that mountain?

>>377179054
>hundreds of thousands were affected!
Yeah, out of probably millions, maybe billions of computers. And most of the affected were businesses who probably don't know shit about basic internet security and common sense, which is all you need to avoid this shit.

>>377168105
Because many people have on interest in them anymore. There's a generation out there that has never grown up with computers. This will be the death of Microsoft, so we should be happy.

There's also no good reason to buy a gaming PC anymore. For the price of a gaming PC of $800 I can get a PS4, Xbox One, and Switch. Which play games like Bloodborne, Yakuza, Halo, Zelda, Mario Kart, Red Dead Redemption. PC has nothing of that. The only thing PC has is the RTS genre. Which is dead.

>>377191389
>That bug that makes the OS use 100% of your disk
I spent so fucking long trying to fix that. Disabling hibernation seemed to help but it still randomly happens all the fucking time.

>>377168105
Most people just use their computer for facebook and porn so obviously something they can bring anywhere that will fulfill those needs was gonna take hold.

>>377168105
because people who build their own computers are set for the next 5 years, even longer if they push it
and computers in general are pretty expensive and the market hasn't corrected itself yet for the amount of options people have when it comes to buying a PC

>>377176889
>Tfw the PC I built in 2011 still runs any AAA game just fine
Sometimes I have to put on Medium or Low but at least they all work.

there is very little reason to upgrade from my i5 2500

I would only benefit from faster video encoding