Last thread capped out and died The Surge discussion thread

>grab generic saw
>saw is now permanently in my inventory
>upgrade saw
>it's now too overpowered
>can't get a level 1 saw anymore

Wow, Deck 13 will never learn.

>>377166315
If being too strong is an issue you can just switch weapons, there are decent amount for a reason.

>>377166315
The saw as in the one handed sword thing? I'm using that, but it feels pretty useless due to the lack of range.

So, what's the point of the drone? The damage is so low, the only use I've gotten from it so far was to pull enemies away from groups one by one.

>>377166612
You eventually get other drones to use.
He opens certain doors for you as well.

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>>377166538
Forgot pic

>>377165804
>Can't get P.A.X Imperator v2.0 because the stupid terrain/robot keeps clipping the missiles and damaging itself.

Next level hardcore when you gotta fight with the terrain itself for a clean kill.

>>377166609
If you're using the agility rig then you can dash in to close the distance since you get like -10% stamina consumption on it per leg.

Is armor broken or something? I seem to take exactly the same amount of damage with heavy gear as I do with the light lynx stuff

>>377167327
Are they different MK perhaps?

>>377167327
Deck13 think that soulslike means dying in 2-4 hits so your armor isn't meant for defense but for the other stats benefits.

What's the point of the block evade move? The only enemy that you can really use it on is that robot but those are easier to kill just by circling them

Anyone got a strategy for fighting those tripod bots? They just seem to do a one shot leap attack on me every time.

>>377168948
Attack the tail first they will die quickly. Once you do that.

>>377169523
Just tried that, as soon as the tail was gone I got jump attack at point blank range and insta killed

Looks like techno souls, how is it?

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>Heavy duty weapons
How the fuck does swinging a hammer THAT SLOW do any damage? That's not a swing, its a gentle fucking shove.

Who else is tired of the shills saying shit like "omg the surge is harder than dark souls 3, that game is for casuals" as if that means the surge is better. not to mention, playing the surge for the first time will obviously feel more difficult than going back to your 500+ hour save on dark souls 3. Just play the fucking game and stop trying to compare the two.

>>377170165
Not as good as Weebsouls, but still good.

>>377170165
Its technosouls

Only different mechanic so far is you can target specific parts of enemies, and usually when you do the stupid execute you get that part, which salvages into what you need to make it. It's neat.

That said, the executes get real fucking old, real fucking quick.

>>377170209
mass times energy

I don't know if I think this game is extremely lame or extremely mediocre

>>377167060
Just found out there's a quick save/load function using F5 and F8. Have fun.

This game looks really shit. Is it as shit as I think it is?

Are the only people that like it Dark Souls 2 fanbois?

>>377166538
>Another dev forgets what pacing is
>Become too overpowered early on
>JUST NERF YOURSELF DUDE???
What a fucking joke

>>377170729
Nah it's actually surprisingly fun, stop watching streams and actually try the game

>>377170729
Just pirate it and try it yourself. If you have low tolerance for garbage, then you'll hate it

>>377170363
So it's worse than lotf? How the fuck did they manage that?

>>377170498
Impact still matters.
A 50 ton car bumping into me at 2 MPH will hurt a lot less than a 1 ton car ramming me at 100MPH.

>>377170209
>>377170498
>>377171102
Well first he flings you up in the air and then slams the hammer down on top of you, you fucking retards

What exactly is the Plot of the Surge?

>>377171296
Guy from Avatar gets metal robot parts shoved into him instead of turning into a blue cat thing. Nigger creates AI that kills everyone and turns them into slaves. You gotta kill AI.

Thats pretty much it

>>377171291
No, I'm talking about the horizontal slash where you just kinda shove sideways. Feels like shit to use.

>>377171436
there is no twist right? just unraveling the mystery

How did these fucking hacks get the funding for this

>>377171296
A struggling studio decide to ape the success of a JRPG called Dark Souls. and create a more western version that is horribly bugged.

This fails and they decide to put Sci-Fi paint on it and hide their involvement with their first game in order to make people think the game will be a quality purchase.

In all seriousness how does this game compare to LotF, i felt that there might have been a decent game buried in there amongst all the bugs and glitches.

>>377165804
How is it, on a scale from LotF to Dark Souls?

>>377171664
What Mystery. There is no mystery. Theres no story. Theres no characters. Its just bad guy who made the last boss of the game that you will never actually see and some generic dude in power armor.

>>377171870
about halfway, it has some nice additions to the souls combat but some flaws of the LotF still persist

>>377171870


LotF --ll-------------------- DS

>>377172028
Pretty much this
Its the same developers, who got out the scifi paint to make the same game, and fixed some of the bugs

have no idea why you guys are ripping on this game so hard
its not a bad game

>>377172218
It's not a good game either

>>377171870
It's far more actionary than any souls like game at least to me. That being said you are far squisher and die easy so can be pretty difficult to fight more than one enemy at a time.

The biggest dissappointment is the world doesn't 100% connect together since there are Zones in the game, but the zones are massive and you could easily get lost in them.

I like the weapons more in this game than I do in souls but souls does have more variety which was nice sicne I often ended up playing a ranged character in souls games.

So I rate it "it's got enough different that its something I could see getting a sequel"

>>377172276
i am playing it and its good

>>377171870
Theres definitely effort put in. Could get better with an expansion and some fixes maybe. Also they need to get rid of the hit counter. Destroys any ambience.

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Fuck you /v/, I do what I want.

Who's the audience for this trash?

>>377172772
Good on you lad but-

>console

The game is so sexy on pc

>>377173254
People who still enjoy video games and don't spurge out over every tiny detail.

>>377170983
Oh sweet it's on PC? Well then.

>>377168586
You can duck under the spin attack of the excavators so they dont one shot you.

>>377170165

The combat is decent, but everything else is pretty lackluster.

I found the jump attack people thought was missing.

Sprint then click left stick/whatever it is on pc then push r1. Sprinting into an r1 just does a slide that goes under high attacks.

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>>377171296

A shitskin inherits a company dedicated to reversing the effects of global warming from a white guy and promptly fucks everything into the ground.

>>377173898
I'm 2 hours in and the combat is already getting old Tbh. It's just dash in > attack > back out > repeat

Alright. I'm lost. Where the hell do I go after the botany lab chick gets freed and you get the drone core. I feel like I've been running around in circles for an hour now.

why did that have to make the finish cut attack a button hold?

completely fucks with the flow of combat

>>377170165
It's from the Lords of the fallen devs so of course it's shit

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>>377173259
It'll probably perform better on my Bone.

>>377171643
its got an edge
kinda axe like

>>377171734
>that is horribly bugged.
So just like Dark Souls?

>>377174224
the greenhouse nearby has the drug the guy needs that you get with the drone upgrade then you go back on the train

you can open the huge door when you get off the train with the drone

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>>377174049
upboaded

>>377174139
Use your duck/hop and counter attacks to stun enemies. Ducking under a high then hitting r1 knees them in the face, staggering humanoids.

>>377174552

Alright, cool, so il grab those and I guess I'm done with this zone for now. Thanks

>>377171734
the combat is ok
the world is complete shit
almost no content

Dont forget about NG+ cycles. Each one populates the world with new enemies and gear.

>>377174474
That doesn't make it feel less shit to use.

Why the hitboxes are so shit? PAX was hitting me even if I was out of his range.

>>377174745
So its most like Dark Souls 3?

Does this game have any ranged weapons?

>>377175519
It has a really long weapon. Stay close.

>>377174790

but it's not new gear. it's the same shit with an additional 4 upgrade levels.

>>377175924
A drone that follows you around and shoots lasers, very useless.

>>377174020
I thought everyone knew about the jump attack, because the tutorial actually tells you about jumping and attacking.

>>377176198
Its not useless. It pulls enemies out of groups.

The game is very good. It gets repetitive after a while, but the challenges that appear in every corner like the smelting robot or the wolverine guy are pretty cool.

>just realized it doesnt have denuvo

>>377170623
>Western devs can't handle dying so they put in save scumming

Anyone able to get passed those security guards early? I'm like 34 in my power core right now and they fuck me with up with that stun gun on their shoulder.

>enemies get flamethrowers, grenade launchers and tasers
>you get a shitty drone laser

There's gotta be more drone functions or something because that's some bullshit that you can't get them even if you cut them.

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>>377170623
>This wasn't a joke

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>>377179202
PC master race.

The Surge = GOTY.

>>377177601
just keep baiting with drone so you don't fight two at the same time

anyone else genuinely creeped out by the zombie enemies? whenever I hear those screams I get fucked up so much

>>377178349
The grenade launchers are weird and I'm not sure I'd even want them, but at least having some kind of one-shot ranged weapon for interrupting/stunning enemies besides the drone's stun would be nice.

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>Lynx set bonus
OH GOD THIS IS TOO FAST HOLY FUCK I'M A GOD DAMN BLENDER.

>>377175838
Here's your (you).

>>377181219
Couldn't really feel the difference. What do you think the attack speed bonus is?

>>377180405
It's really not, but at least they're learning. At this rate their next attempt might be genuinely good.

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>>377181219
DID SOMEBODY SAY BLENDER?

>>377181838
The lynx bonus makes a huge difference when using something like the pax. Im don't know how much faster exactly i is but it's enough to blitz things and not get interrupted.

>>377182048
HOW FAR IN ARE THOSE GLORIOUS FLAME SHOOTERS?

this is just proving again and again that western devs can't make games for shit

>>377182330
make sure to cut off all the legs from spin 2 win boss

>>377182330
They are the 2nd boss drop weapon.
I don't know if the flame is only on the improved version or not though but mine are the better ones. TO cut off all the legs which is really easy.
>>377182439
Does it not flame if you don't cut off all the legs?

>>377182330
Second boss, you have to destroy all it's legs to get the 2.0 version of the weapon.

>>377165804
Where are my invasions Deck? I'm not buying your game for the story

Fuck this big sister battle man. Trying to kill the core without harming the little arms is so bullshit when the camera keeps trying to lock on the little ones and making swings at them.

>>377182297
Yeah, tested it on the PAX and it feels like it went from low to medium attack speed.

>>377177601
I've never had them use their shoulder cannon.

Too bad their gear requires way too much power to use. Cool set bonus and staff though.

is there an option to hide headgear? some of them are just plain uggo

>>377184857
The headgear looks like shit, indeed. Wish using it would have some sort of downside, so at least i could have to not use it.

>>377186229
You need to look like a retarded cyclops though, can't do it without the helmet. Don't know what the others look like, thats only the lynx one.

>>377186330
The Rhino one is just as bad, it looks industrial, like the MC has a metal box on his head.

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>Beat Dark Souls 1-3, beat Bloodbone
>Can't beat P.A.X
What is wrong with me? Am I broken?

>>377187671
Not really, this game is definitely harder than any of the souls games. If healing wasn't instant and can be used at any time, I couldn't even imagine beating the second zone.

>>377187671
Apparently.

Why does this game look like ass?

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>The only armor I've been able to find thus far that completely covers the body is an iron fursuit.

Th-Thanks.

The comic book sound effects are cool though.

>>377188092
Where's that at?

Also anyone know where to find a new leg for maddy? Do I just break one off one of the ones near materials?

>>377188092
What zone you find this in? It's adorabley stupid I want it.

>>377188230
>>377188250

Get five Shining Coins, then find an Ironmaus vending machine surrounded by graffiti deep in the Conveyor Hub.

>>377188230
Yepp, just get one off of the welding robots.

>>377188350
Ahh. That's what I figured. I wondered why It was interactive earlier. Is it decent or just for laughs?

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Wait does /v/ actually like this or is this all just satire. I am genuinely curious.

>>377188452

It's fairly basic Medium Armor that has no energy consumption, at all, because it's literally just a suit of armor and not being powered by your core.

>>377188486
The /v/ hivemind hates it but a few anons are enjoying it.

>>377188486

It's a pretty below average game, but I needed a time waster anyway. Worth the pirate.

so is this worth getting?

>>377188861

On sale maybe.

game actually plays like fucking ass, cant believe I wasted time pirating it

played the first few areas for an hour or two. Unbelievably clunky. Clearly a DS ripoff, and not in a good way. No originality, and the combat was not fun or rewarding.

>>377189319
Care to give any specifics?

>>377188486

Something tells me this title will be considered a decent Soul-clone 6-8 years down the road. I personally can not stop comparing the setting to reminding me of System Shock and Alien; which is good to me.

>from the same company that made Lords of the Fallen

well that's a bad sign

Just started; haven't even gotten to the first boss.

Been using the big, slow glow-saw thing and I've got RHINO arms and legs.

What should I be looking for in the near future?

>>377165804
>pirate game
>yes hello I herd u were giving out free legs?
>warren u are the demons

man "souls like" games get too much of a free pass with the next to no story and you have to pick up the lore from logs. But like 1/10th the amount of lore you would get from other games to make it seem deep.

The first npc you meet is like

YOU HAVE TO GET TO FACTORY
>ask literally any question the game lets u ask
IDK ER... ARE U AT THE FACTORY

the fug

>>377166315
>pick up drake sword in undead burg
wtf why am i so strong now?

This game really feels like somebody was told about dark souls without playing it, and they took all the worst parts, and none of the fun things.

>>377189926
That sounds funny as fuck though

>>377165804
wow, what a retarded player lol

>>377190218

One of the few things they did get right was the shortcuts. The level design is actually pretty decent, it's just that the visuals of the levels are all kind of samey and boring industrial shit.

>>377189891
A full lynx set is great for a long time. That attack speed boost makes a big impact for slow/medium weapons. I only just traded up for a proteus set after the third boss.

Also be aware there are better boss weapons if you beat them in specific ways don't let pax (boss 1)get hit by his own missiles. Break all the legs off the disposal bot(boss 2). And don't kill any welder arms for the big sister (boss 3) idk about 4 and 5 yet.

>>377189526
It's like they took the core of DS and everything that made it fun, every "weapon" feels almost the same, and on the theoretical level inconceivable. There's something special about picking up a greatsword, or a rapier, or a katana because of the special movesets and style behind them, but the assortment of weapons is just synthesized arbitrary garbage that plays the exact same.

There's also a reason why body part specific targeting isn't used in games, is because its shit and ruins the combat flow. It seems to have been added in this game to try to expand upon the souls formula but indeed has only succeeded in turning it to shit.

If you're having fun its great, I can see how it can be a great button mashing game, but compared to souls (and I am a sci-fi fan), It just does not measure up. The whole universe is fucking incongruent, and every element of the game seems like a laughable imitation forged by some public modder who got funding to make his own game. For a game to literally steal another games formula shows that it doesn't have the creativity to produce anything fun and rewarding itself.

>>377190667
Bueno; appreciate it. I'm not too deep so I wager I'll just grind out the lynx set before I hit PAX.

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>>377190218
Not surprising, considering Lords of the Fallen made Dark Souls 2 look like a goddamn masterpiece.

>>377165804
The second area is such a pain in the ass to navigate with all the closed narrow corridors. At least the good Souls games made you feel small without feeling claustrophobic like The Surge does.

Fuck those twin blade spastics doing more damage than they should.

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>>377191208
>Yet another game where armor doesn't actually matter and there's no real way to mitigate the damage done to you

Anyone mind linking where I can pirate this shit

>>377191742
Honestly, don't waste your time.

>>377191936

Yeah but I kinda wanna play it because I'm bored, plus if it's free it's worth it

>>377192014
>plus if it's free it's worth it
Its really not though.

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>>377192096

Nigga what

>waste time killing the early security guards
>can't equip the armor

Not giving the staff to that one bitch either.

>soulsfags being soulsfag

only thing it got in common with souls games is how scrap is reset
it's a standard action game otherwise

Combat is kind of shit, heavy weapons don't seem to do enough damage and most of the combat is centered on quick hits before the enemy does and 2 shots you.

Only real use I found for slow weapons is waiting for counter attacks and barely using their terrible long normal attack animations that almost guaranty a hit from a mob that does some zippy attack with a slow weapon or one with a fast weapon that still hits just as hard as the massive hammer brother.

How interesting are the environments?
I'm all for Souls combat and I actually liked Lords of the Fallen, but this game just seems to have really boring factory environments. Does it ever traverse from the factory setting? I just can't see myself enjoy cold steel throughout the entire game.

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>>377193112
It's also even more artificial difficulty than LotF
>One attack from an enemy can bring you down to half health

>>377192205
What I'm saying is even though its free, its not worth your time.

>>377193283

Okay dad.

>>377192014

Black Box already has it up.

>>377193283
>why would you play videogames anon, listen to me I know what i'm talking about, stop playing videogames and making judgement yourself, just listen to me, anon

>>377193406
Jesus christ you're retarded. I'm saying the game is so shit its not worth playing, I'm not saying VIDEO GAMES are pointless.

>>377193621
>i'm just saying I know better, so listen to me you fool

can you be even more vague and condescending?

>>377193123
Prime example of this is the dual wielders. They're as tanky as the other enemies and also deal a ton of damage with their quick little hits. The best way to counter them is block and counter their charge because even with a super heavy weapon, they won't chain stagger and WILL get a hit in during your basic 3 hit button combo.

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>>377193621

And he still wants to play it -- frustrating?

>>377193790
I literally DO know better, since I've played the game, ans you haven't. You were also asking people to spoonfeed you a link to pirate it. You're clearly retarded.

>>377193796
you can use dodge you know

>>377193886
>/v/ is one person

>>377193886

Timmy, it doesn't have to end this way, give up!

>>377193886
>I made an opinion through playing it which is the only valid opinion, how dare you question me you lowly peasant
why do you feel so threatened by someone else wanting to try a game?

>>377193913

Not if you make the mistake to use heavy weapons, or even worse heavy armor that barely does anything.

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>>377194056
>>377194032
>>377193983
Holy fuck you guys are retarded,

>>377194124

There's nothing wrong with a bunch of "fools" padding each other.

This game has possibly the worst voice acting and artstyle i've ever seen.
Specially VAs, they are fucking horrible.
Thak god I pirated it.

>>377193151
Quite a lot of variety. There's industrial scrap factory ruins, underground industrial tunnels, a giant multi-level indoor future industrial building, sub-level industrial processing area, and many more.

>>377194082
oh, balance is shit then, good to know
I'm not far in yet, it feels alright though, and I don't really care about balance in SP games pretty sure it's easy to become overpowered

>>377194257
What?
Every fucking place looks the exact same, it's all a generic and personality less factory.
Level design is fucking atrocious.

>>377194215
artstyle is okay, what you didn't like? rigs not futuristic enough?

VA part is true, but do they even talk much?

>>377193151
It's not interesting at all, seriously, all places look the same.

>>377194425
>artstyle is okay
No, not at all.

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>>377194365
I'm sure that was sarcasm.

>>377194425
>rigs not futuristic enough?
No, give me a fucking power armor, not those shitty exoskeletons.

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>another shill thread about this shovelware
It looks like Deck 13 even hired the same Pajeet shills that forced LOTF marketeer threads.

>>377170209

Pnuematic torque

>loved Demon's Souls when first released during college days, last played DaS I
>fast forward today, randomly visit Steam and see The Surge

7 hours in and pretty happy with the setting, but I wish the sound effects improved excluding the screeches they make when swinging.

>>377194425
It's ugly and the rigs look like garbage.

>>377170414

I don't know, when they don't have a helmet you can end fights quick and stagger often.

I suppose it's a make it easy or get loot kind of thing.

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>>377194598

I don't see a problem with exoskeletons.

you people have no sci-fi taste
the only thing that's actually great about this game is how rigs are done

everything else is 7/10, but rigs are good.

>>377194598
>talks about powerarmor
>posts simple armor

In short, yes or no to the Surge?

>>377193151
It doesn't have as many different factory setting as one would expect. There isn't even an obligatory conveyor belt level. I am not sure if the devs have ever seen a real factory, but judging from the type of rooms, lack of open spaces, machine placement, I think they never did.

While some places look different on the surface, they all mostly just turn out to be a weird labyrinth of tight floors and corners.
In the end of the game you get factory + overgrown with alien AI shit, which is the most noticeable surface change. Yet it plays exactly the same as the rest of the game + even more holes and pitfalls that look like you can jump down but die horribly even though you can see the floor below.

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>>377194936
Exoskeletons are not cool compared to power armors.

>>377193796
I stagger them just fine by hitting the weak zone and I can replicate it 100% of the time if you want.

>>377195054
Yes to the first area, no to the second area.

>>377195054
it's AA game, say if you liked Risen 1-3 you'll like this
it's not AAA crazy budget, it's 7.5/10 at best

>>377166538

Well the big issue is that taking parts is harder with stronger weapons because you take the mobs out before you can execute them.

>>377195054
Pirate it to try it, you won't get honest opinions.

>>377195054
yes

>>377170498
mass times speed, nigger

>>377170804
It's ok when Dishonored does it

>>377195125
>>377195147
Ok, think I might buy it then.

>>377171296

A hipster tries running a construction company.

>>377194631
wtf does FULLY REALIZED even mean? are other games not as real as that one?

>that moment when you realize you can dodge UP or DOWN to avoid high or low attacks
>that moment when you realize you can change the body part you're aiming at mid-combo to change the attack animation

Man, this combat system is more complex than I thought it would be. I'm at the second area where you get your drone and the game is fun so far, I'm finding challenge in normal enemy fights in the Surge, which I didn't find even in Nioh's early alpha.

>>377166612

You're probably not using it when you have energy saved up. It'll only do 1 damage if you don't save up energy.

>>377195625
how do you do that with m/kb?
also how does proficiency work? simple percentage increase?

This game is boring as shit.

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>>377194598

Please try again.

>>377195707

I have no clue. I'm playing on PS4.

>>377195054

as I was walking through the second area, robots were doing leap attacks that curved them around corners and doing 99% of my life bars on the slightest contact

while the tail was a weak point, attacking the legs did nothing and I was forced to eventually do nothing except hit once and back out, hit one and back out

on reaching the next enemy, it was still hit once, back out and I realized most of the game was going to be like this, so I uninstalled my pirated copy without regret

>>377195786

There are areas you're not supposed to visit yet. Also, weapon level is more important in this game than in Souls games. Wait until you level it before visiting that area you're having trouble with and learn to slide, dodge low, dodge high etc. And use your drone for help.

>>377193123
Yes, combat is pretty much about hit&run or rather jumping attack / maybe 1 or 2 normal hits / dodge out of range. Anything else just doesn't work, especially with slow weapons.

However, they actually did a good job with balancing the game for melee only. In their previous game they often had way too large spaces for melee combat, especially in boss fights, that made things way too easy.

Then again, having no ranged or magic combat is gay as fuck and reduces any incentive to replay the game to 0 - granted that just finishing it is already quite a drage since everything but the combat is almost non existant and the combat also is just barely ok.

The lack of character progression, badly balanced poise, lack of weapon variety (they look different, but it's all the same shit), enemies adjusting their attacks to you in midair, gay ass finishers, pointless limb targetting (it really is pointless after you got the items you wanted) that adds extra work on every fight etc. - they all kind of fuck up a basically solid combat system.

>>377194082
Just use the dodge attack.

>>377195213
I'm sure this was bait, but Dishonored and this are very different games.

Single rigged is fucking garbage.

Is there a trick to getting the chance to take the black Cerberus's arms off? Got him to call the second pax and still never got the chance. Is it only on his last phase or is there something im missing? I missed the pax v2 I ain't missing this guys axe.

>>377195054

Yes if you really loved ds, nioh, bb and have nothing else to play right now.
No, if you really loved the above games, but won't lower your standards.
No, if you never played a 3rd person rpg before.

The surge offers a barely ok version of dark souls combat and everything else is almost non existant in the game (i.e. other gameplay, no ranged combat, characters, plot, level design, content in general very short).

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When does the first shortcut in the Biolabs show up? I just got to the level and it's getting to be a pain running back to that courtyard with the jumping robot things

>>377190667
How do you beat PAX without the missiles hitting him? Does he eventually just fall down if you smack him enough?

>>377195054
Meh.
It's shovelware-tier like LOTF.

>>377196209
>Nioh
Lol, Surge is way better than Nioh.

>>377196297
when he stomps, hit the leg not in the air and he will stumble.

>>377196297
Warren needs to hit her legs enough times and she falls over. It actually lasts longer than having her hit herself with her own missiles.

>>377196297
Yeah. You might have to damage both legs equally. Took quite a bit of time for it to fall the first time but the next few came much faster.

Just be prepared to quit and try again in case it jumps in a bad spot and gets hit anyway.

cant really justify getting this when prey is the same price

>>377196339
Why do you think so?

>>377165804
What is this game? Transformers dark souls?

>>377196339
Sure it is, marketeer.

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>>377196339
Even Nioh had more enemy variety than The Surge.

>giving scrap to the shifty scrap lady every time she comes up

sorry Hobbs. Don't know what you did, but I was just trying to help. The equalizer isn't even that good. At least she wasn't building bombs around the place like I thought she was

>>377196909
It's a cheap Dark Souls copy in a generic and personality-less futuristic setting.
Also, all levels happen in a samey factory and there's no enemy variety whatsoever.

>>377196912
Lol, I pirated this game. I don't even think it's good. It's still better than Nioh, though. It's also better than LiD and Ds2..

>>377196974
>no enemy variety at all

-Concussive Drones
-Laser Beam Drones
-Heavy Weapon Workers
-Light Weapon Workers
-Security Guards
-Giant Smelting Bots
-Gravity Bots

>>377197212
Funny how you completely rely on people not knowing anything about the game because in that short list there's reskinned enemies.

>>377197212
>drones
>workers
>guards
>bots
SO MUCH VARIETY

>>377197264
To be fair an enemy with a sword and an enemy with a spear are going to behave much differently. Only an idiot would look at them and say "THEY'RE IDENTICAL"

>>377197298
Not all workers can be fought the same way, same goes for the bots.

>>377197212
Don't forget:
Flamethrower guys
Gas grenade guys
cyborg zombies
But it does feel kind of samey to be honest. Mostly because you fight "dude with heavy weapon and dude with light weapon" so often.

Are those security guards in the second area the only ones or do they start showing up as regular enemies later on? I thought I saw some anon mention that he wasn't able to get their gear because they don't respawn or disappear after a certain point or something.

>>377197598
They don't respawn at all. Just like the Smelter Bots.

>>377197598
They spawn fucking everywhere after a certain point so don't sweat it. If you can get it early neat, but plenty of time to farm later.

>>377197598


>>377197719
And honestly the only thing you might want off them is the weapon. Set bonus is just increased stamina regen. But you get -4% damage to both armor and unarmor from the helm not to mention the pretty large power drain. Proteus is only slightly more power heavy, comes a little before the point they become common, and gives you passive (albeit slow) hp regen up to full and a small boost to attack speed from the arms.

>>377197719
Ok cool. Is there any reason to fight them early besides getting their gear? Are they guarding anything fancy?

>>377198009
There's one set of guards in the second area that are blocking a security room, but the MC needs something specific to enter it and he doesn't get it for a while. There's a second set that aren't guarding anything.

>>377198009
The ones below the staff lady I'm not sure but the first two are just guarding the door to security hq.

>>377198008
>Set bonus is just increased stamina regen

By "increased", they mean instant.

>>377195786
>the game was too hard for me so I uninstalled it

Git gud scrub.

>>377168948
Equip a one-handed weapon, bait their leap attack and as soon as they come at you, dash forward and attack then dash away. It interrupts them and seems to do more damage than going for their limbs.

>>377195108
Damn game would have been a hell of a lot cooler with armor designs like this and a couple of changes

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>>377170623
Holy shit.

>>377170623
wow

>>377190070
That's a stupid comparison. Who in their right mind would start shooting arrows at a dragon's tail without a guide?

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>>377165804
>it's a "devs are too lazy to make their own game so they just copypaste everything" episode

>>377200180
yea what was from thinking with ds3

Is the 5 bosses thing true?

Did I fuck up by giving Davey the implant?

What about giving all that scrap to the chick in the vents?

https://m.imgur.com/iXIVpDN

Has /v/ been practicing their spot dodging? You can avoid and high or low horizonal attack. You can even duck then jump the two hit hammerbro spin.

>>377200553
It's a neat feature but it just seems pointless since simply backing away and then attacking is just as effective if not more so.

>>377200696
The riposte after actually interupts enemies and breaks their poise.

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>>377200180
>b-b-but it's okay when from does it.
SHUT YO BITCH ASS UP!

There is a secret, red bladed spectre at the end of the toxic tunnels in the first area.

>>377165804
is this a ps3 game

>>377200858
But even with a one-hander I usually don't have a problem staggering enemies. Really the only time I could see the riposte being useful is if you're running with a low-impact weaon and attacking armored parts.

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>find a cool one-handed axe
>exact same moveset as the saw sword and worse in every way statistically

What's the fucking point?

>Input one R1 with a slow weapon

>Character swings twice

Hahahahahahahahahahaha no

Anyone reached NG+ yet?
How does it change?

>Liked Souls mobs
>Hated Souls bosses

Will I like this?

>>377190070
the drake sword is obsolete in like five minutes though because it doesn't scale

when you first get it in the burg it's better than the weapons available, but as soon as you start leveling strength or dex it becomes trash

>>377203227
Drake Sword is great all the way up to Anor Londo.

>>377171031
I think he meant nioh

Say what you will about the rest of the game but the staff moveset is great.

Why the fuck does this game remind me of The Technomancer so much?

>>377200069
>pick up Uchigatana in undead burg
wtf why am i so strong now stupid game

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>>377194936

>>377195554
IT means they made the game exactly as they conceptualized it. Every aspect they wanted to add to the game was put it. Which is hilarious considering this is the garbage studio that's claiming it.

>>377195976
>badly balanced poise
Firebug's spinning attack does like 20% of your HP per hit but only makes you flinch rather than knocked down or pushed back so you can easily take 2-3 hits within 1 second.

>enemies adjusting their attacks to you in midair
Firebug's single leg split has cheat levels of targeting, hitting my character even when I dodge to the side.

>gay ass finishers
I'm okay with the finishers because of the implant that gives you health back.

>pointless limb targetting
Trying to do hardcore Firebug was a pain in the ass because it would constantly lose target or swap to one I didn't want.

The game really lost its shine after finishing area 2 for me.

>>377201182
The point is you don;t buy fucking shovelware, you deserved to lose your money.

>>377196425
You can quick save/load with F5/F8.

>>377203406
I'm sorry sir, you have autism

>>377203689
>uchi
I'll never understand this meme.

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>>377170623
>quicksave in souls game

you can't make this shit up

>>377203054
Do you like dying in 2-3 hits and enemies placed around corners with their only purpose being to send you back to the bonfire?

>>377203617
Because they are better than the developer's first game in the genre but still mediocre compared to other games in the same genre?

I've reached biolabs and now I'm not sure if I want to finish this at all.
I mean the ideas behind combat are great, the amount of customisation is okay.
But there is a sever disbalance towards quick weapons and hit-and-run.
There is no point wielding a heavy weapon and heavy armor. The bonuses are too shitty and the stamina drain is huge while slow speed combined with pretty fast enemies makes most of the prolonged fights plain frustrating.

Remember to check your exoskelloteen

>>377200069
literally anyone who is tired of this one-shotting dragon blocking the path and wants to cheese it because they didnt find the sewer tunnel to the left

>>377204832
Yeah I've noticed that too at the very beginning.
Heavy weapons should punish your enemy when they hit, and punish you if you miss.
In this game you get punished regardless.

>mid-combat the aim shifted from the leg to the body
>didn't get the Gorgon leg schematic
>no more security wearing Gorgon set left in the area

My autism can't handle this. Please tell me there's more of them further in the game.

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>>377204703
sounds like AIDS

>>377181219
HOW YOU LIKING LIVING IN THE FAST LANE?

Okay, so what buttons on the keyboard let me jump up or move low when there's a strike incoming? There's just SPACE for immediate dodge and Q for blocking, but is there more?

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>wanted small devs to made game as good as dark souls
was Rome built in a day?
captcha Europa library, if you don't know answer better go there and learn something from history books

>>377196940
This is one of the biggest issues I've had with the game so far. Difficulty in this game is "loliwashidingbehindthebox" and "There are 6 of us now". The enemy variety is so small that the only way it ramps up is enemies looking exactly the same suddenly doing more damage and more of them.

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The giant fire-mawed machine guy in the greenhouse area literally standing in the acid is a fucking pain - is it even worth killing them? I got the gold coins but they don't seem to have a use and the scraps are kinda shit, like 3-5k from them? Not worth the trouble.

Also how fast do you gain proficiency? been rocking the P.A.X for a while now and want to switch.

>>377188486
It's a mediocre game. Most people won't enjoy it that much but if you are one of those people who like what it has and not really bothered by the things it doesn't have, or does badly, you might have a good time.
It's definitely not worth the 50 dollars tho.

>game is only 5 gig

How?

Why is this game so fucking dark, holy shit. The first level was fine but I just got to the 3rd hoping it would be more outdoors (as opposed tothe 2nd) but it seems to be more of the same shit. I literally can't see jack, it's annoying the fuck out of me.

>>377208521
Are you using your flashlight?

>>377208745
Yeah but it doesn't help much. The levels are just underground and dark.

>>377206460
I'm fairly happy with it. I'll admit it's a bit expensive for the content, about 10 euros less would have been perfect.
It's biggest flaws are that, the few bosses, and the environment that looks samey.

However, if it sells well, we've seen that Deck13 can and did get better, so a sequel, with more funding, while keeping the good parts like combat, would definitely be a game to look forward to.

>>377170804
I'm sorry you don't have self control?

>11 hours
>only 290 posts
>mfw the shills' desperation to necrobump this thread
Looks like they hired you again after LOTF, Pajeets.
Hope this shovelware fails.

>>377206460
>was Rome built in a day?
They are shovelware company, they are never going to make anything else aside from cheap, personality-less Dark Souls clones that everyone forgets they exist after a week.
They are never going to do anything remarkable.

>>377207852
You need 5 coins to exchange for a fun suit. >>377188092

Proficiency levels very fast from 1-5.

Might as well pirate this since I'm on a mediocre game binge. The Technomancer is actually pretty fun, but the crafting system, side quests, and party interactions are not.

Who the fuck decided you shouldn't be able to move the camera while attacking. That combined with the fact that you auto lock on to enemies makes fighting more than one guy a total fucking chore.

>>377209754
After all the hype dies down, the only decent thing in The Surge is the combat. Everything else like the environments, enemies, NPCs, and level design is so boring and bland that you'll have trouble finishing the game.

>>377210246
I don't plan on finishing it, I just want to dick around with the combat until I get burned out.

>>377208173
Devs know how to make a PC games, no need for 50GB of uncompressed audio, hours of 1080p videos that look worse than in-engine cutscenes and that sort of stuff.
With faster download speed and HDD getting bigger every year, and consoles using blue ray dics, most devs stopped caring.

>>377165804
Can a non fromshill and also no surge shill give an honest opinion of this game?

Is it really sci Fi souls? Or is I calling it souls triggering soulsfags?
How's the combat? Any better than lotf? I liked loft

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>>377173259
I agree

>>377206227
Mousewheel up and down while holding Q is default

How the hell do i kill the smelter in biolabs? it's surrounded by fucking acid goo shit. high ele resistance gear and luck?

>>377211531
fuck man, are you playing on a macbook??

>>377211151
It's better than lotf in almost any aspect.
It's worse than Nioh in almost any aspect.
It doesn't offer anything besides (flawed) combat. It's very short and offers little incentive to play it again. Most of the innovative stuff is not very well executed, pointless or a downgrade compared to other games.
However, it gets the difficulty balancing and the general focus on melee combat right (at the cost of character development, level design, item balancing, controls comfort and combat variety).

So if you really only care about combat and already finished objectively better games like Nioh, it's a buy.
But only if you don't mind 'innovations' that actually make the usual combat recipe worse.

Anyone know what all the set bonuses are?

>>377211764

A really poorly implemented mechanic. Extremely inconvenient input and hard to get the timing right.
So far everybody I have seen has completely ignored the mechanic and just went for the dodge since it's 100% safe, faster, easier input and costs less stamina.

>>377211151
It still has that feeling of swing that lotf had, but ifeel it's not as unpredictable as lotf was, and there's ton of combos for different weapons.

>>377212119
>>377212756
Thanks, I'm a sucker for games like nioh and lotf so I'll definitely be getting this

>Introduce enemies with flamethrowers and chemical grenade launchers.
>Cut off weapon-arms.
>They don't drop their weapons.

>>377172772
>xbone
my man

is each weapon drop randomly generated? my friend and I are using the same Piston weapon but his is the volatile version or something. Do you gatta grind some enemies for some sweet rare drops? Also tips for taking out those security guards in the second area near operations?

Are stats on gear in this game randomized or something? Don't you craft most of it

>watch popular souls streamers die 30+ times to firebug
>complain that there is no good time to r1 mash
>I beat it 2nd try with a hammer

Why are Souls players so bad at adapting? Seriously.

>first week of Dark Souls 3 release
>hundreds of fucking webms from tonnes of different people
>first week of The Surge
>one or two webm's from one or two people
All I need to know

>>377213239
Volitile spectre is a weapon hidden in the toxic tunnels in the first area.

>>377213282
You should watch Nioh streams.
>r1 mash
>no using skills
>no fluxing
>no ki pulsing
>no combos
>no weapon switching
It's a shame too, because the only thing Nioh really has going for it, is it's amazingly adaptive combat. Shit turns into Ninja Gaiden if you're good.

>>377213239
Use the drone to pull one guy out at a time. The 2nd one comes out a few seconds after the 1st, so use that to your advantage. They also retreat after a certain distance, so you can run up and smack them with a running swing before they go back.

They don't respawn, either. Kill one, and the other is cake.

I played one hour, uninstalled, the game isn't really SO bad per se, the combat reminded me too much of lotf, with the really slow moves and forced combos

I dont think this a souls game
>bonfire has a bank scrapsouls button

>>377165804
So is there any actual good designs in this game for armour? All the armour and weapons I've seen so far look like shit

>You can have multiple implants of the same kind
I played through most of the game without knowing this

You can get the buffed versions of the boss weapons in NG+ if you didn't get them the first time around right?

>>377214038
You didn't even tried to equip two hp expander implants? Holy shit man, what's wrong with you?

>>377214070
>in NG+
You can in NG.

>>377213983
It's not it's a game called The Surge, souls isn't even in the title silly.
>>377214012
The flame spinners are pretty cool so is the staff.
>>377214070
Correct

>>377165804
Is it the Cyber Souls we've been waiting for?

>>377214253
No, it's Cyber Lord of the Fallen.

>>377214253

No.

I know the whole "where are the guns?" thing is shitposting, but why don't the security guards have guns?

>>377171734
Why are you so FUCKING mad?

>>377191936
>>377192096
>>377193283
that's bit harsh. the game isn't that bad, faggot.

>>377214439
Some guards/workers have flamethrowers but you can't get them.

>>377214439

They have shoulder-mounted stun guns, but you can't get those either.

And what's shitposting about "where are the guns?" It's a reasonable thing to ask. Dead Space managed to take industrial tools and turn them into projectile weapons, it's not like they needed to have assault rifles or shit like that.

>>377209364
wow this sounds like something a disgruntled ex employee would write on linkedin

>>377213302
>because a new ip from a AA stupid isn't as popular as the third installment of a very popular franchise, it must be shit.

shut your bitch ass up right now.

>>377214154
>You can in NG.

What do you mean? Is there a way to go back and re-do bosses?

>>377172218
It's the perfect shitstorm of console plebs upset there's a new Soulslike on PC so they can't muh Bloodborne/Nioh circlejerk over it, weebs crying over western devs making a Japanese game, and Soulsfags in general just being an awful community.

How dare someone I don't like make a game that's like another game that I like.

>>377170498
light weapons are useless because the only worthwhile tactic in this game is dash, hit, dash away, repeat

Ive been playing for a couple of hours and it's allright I guess but the game feels so goddamn boring. There's no story, atmosphere or emotion. You could argue that Dark Souls doesn't have much of a story either but DS just feels more alive for some reason.

Basically I'm fucking bored allready.

>>377172218
It's not weebshit or made by Nintendo so /v/ hates it. It's nothing new.

is there any point to leveling?

>>377215871
please, /v/ loves good western games and talks about them constantly. /v/ is shitting on this because it's actual fucking trash.

>>377216112
Yeah, to open doors :^)

>>377216112
Doesn't feel like it, I'm doing no damage to anyone anyway

>>377170498
It's energy = mass * velocity * velocity you nigger

Is there any difference between R1 vs R2 besides just the animation?

>>377216112
Raising core power to equip more implants and better gear. Also there are some doors and what look like loot chests that have a high core power requirement to open. I think the highest one I've seen was like 75.

>>377173259
Ps4 pro version is fantastic. 1080p 60fps or 4k 30fps and both are rock solid

https://youtu.be/rDKmJB629-0

>>377216163
>talks about them constantly
By that you mean one or two threads among endless Persona/Nier/BotW threads.

>it's actual fucking trash
You've played it then?

>>377216163
yeah right nier had to be fixed by some modder
this game has not had 1 bug so far for me

>>377216112

Raises Health/Stamina scaling on related implants, gives you more energy to work with to wear different armor, and allows you to overcharge higher ranked circuitry.

>>377173259
>Ha hah! I'll meme him again about consoles.

Platform shitter, kys.

>>377165804
Wow that really is Dark Souls with robots


So should I buy this game if I liked all the Souls games, thought Bloodborne was mediocre, hate every game that's "Like souls but by shitty western dev"
Please respond I don't want to do any research myself

>>377216468
/v/ loves GOOD western games like hitman, deus ex, system shock, planescape, divinity, STALKER, max payne, witcher etc. not filth like the surge

>You've played it then?
yes, I pirated it and played for 10 hours

>>377215380
But thats wrong, you can just heavy combo and kill most enemies in a stun lock.
>>377216112
more implants
It also does give stats
>>377216367
Dmg, what combos you do, all sorts. Don't tell me you just slashing randomly and hoping for the best.

Anyone know where I'm supposed to go after that Black Cerberus boss-fight?

This game is so fucking boring jesus christ. Why is it so fucking boring

Everyone loved the stray demon and bed of chaos from dark souls and the generic humanoid number 53616 boss fights from dark souls 2 so here is a game with all fights similar to those!!! and guess what, only 5 of them!

>>377216860
No idea? Games been pretty fun for me so far and I'm 11 hrs in.

>>377216860
Because the souls formula is boring when you take away waifushitting and its generally interesting environments.

Does the game ever mention the infection the protag got from getting stuff drilled into his skeleton at the start of the game?

is it cracked?