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which one did it better?

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which one did it better?
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the one with hot fishmen
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They didn't even attempt to do the same thing.

Zelda is a clunky outdated action game that would have got 6.0 reviews if it wasn't a zelda game.
The witcher 3 is the benchmark for modern western RPGS
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>>377163797
>Witcher 3
>not clunky

Lmao
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>>377163080
the legend of witcher: breath of the wild hunt did it better than both of them.
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>wild guy vs breath of the fart
So this is what gaming has become when these are the two pinnacles of the medium. I want to go back.
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>>377164336
This right here, fuck nintenbros and witchershitters.
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>>377164439
to what? GTA IV?
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I haven't played Zelda but the Witcher was garbage compared to Bloodborne
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Holy fuck latin american VA for BotW is so good bros I can't go back to the others.
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>>377164632
how do you even change?
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>>377164102
t. console peasant
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>>377163080
One has memorable characters, good soundtrack, solid gameplay, different characters builds with lots of ítems, amazingly fun side activities and minigames (Gwent was the fucking shit) and is overall very well written with expansions so good that they won Game of the Year by themselves.

The other you play as a fuckboi at silky smooth 20 fps where they have to artificially increase game length by making you break your equipment with an empty open world, fucking garbage storyline, characters are mostly furryshit for fags, literally who soundtrack that rewards your activities and exploration with a literal pile of shit instead of building up to something bigger and better and the final boss is one of the most disappointing shitfest of all time.
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Bloodborne
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>>377163080
Did what better? Be more specific.
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this one:

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>>377165086
the moon isn't that big. dropped
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>>377164904
On switch it was an update, on wii u you need to download the VA pack you select it from the options menu in the title screen
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>>377165103
topkek

Thanks, anon.
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>>377163080
I didn't even like BOTW, but I'd rather play it than Witcher. Witcher had much better cutscenes and voice acting, but that doesnt really make it a good game.
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Witcher 3. Hands down.
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I haven't played BotW yet (waiting to cemu to run it at 30fps), but I hope nobody's kidding themselves into believing Zelda has a better story.
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>>377165023
t. salty sonyqueer
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The one with boipussy.
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>>377163080
They really aren't comparable.

BOTW is good. Really good. However:

Witcher 3 is something else entirely. My first playthrough was over 200 hours, and I felt pretty melancholy when I was done. It was like that feeling you get when finished a whole book series and you know there's no more. Potentially the best story-based game I've ever played.
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>>377165312
>I paid 300+ dollars for a mediocre game
Ayy lmao.
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>>377165269
Storywise? Absolutely no. Story in Zelda games has always been weak and contrived.

But gameplay-wise? There's not a single open world game which can touch BotW.

Still have no idea what OP is actually getting at. He probably hasn't played both games.
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Witcher 3 is a multiplat which means I can play it so I guess it wins?
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>>377165606
>There's not a single open world game which can touch BotW.
You're right.

They're just league aheads so they don't get near.
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>>377165524
More than that, I got a pro controller too. Think of all the money I gave Nintendo. You mad?
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>>377165726
Kill yourself retard
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Zelda feels like a real organic world. All of the small pieces of

I clocked 140+ hours into it and I'm gonna do more because I didn't get all the memories+bought the DLCs.

Witcher 3 came after BOTW for me and it has been a slog so far, though I'm only just past the plot getting direction (Find Ciri) so it could definitely pick up, I hated BOTW during and just after the tutorial.

What is there to like about Witcher 3? I really want to like this game but other than going "Damn my new PC is good" I dont get it.
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>>377163080
Does anyone even remember Zelda? What a forgettable trainwreck.
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>>377165726
Wow. Deluded AND in denial. Not a good combination to go through life with.
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>>377165023

I played both and enjoyed both. Both have flaws, but they're still both good games.
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>>377164956
t. nigger
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>>377165790
No, I just feel sorry for you.
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>>377165023
>Witcher 3
>Solid gameplay
What did he mean by this?
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>>377165831
Poor. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>377165023
>tfw when everything about the second statement can be said of Witcher 3
Witcher 1 was Kino, 2 was mediocre, 3 was a steaming pile.
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The Witcher has a better story but Zelda has better gameplay and world design.
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>>377165919
Witcher 3 is a 10/10.
BOTW is a 7/10.

They're nowhere near in terms of quality.
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>>377166042
>Witcher 3
>20 fps
Living the dream, right, consolecuck?
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>>377163080
Skyrim
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>>377166075
>Witcher 3 is a 10/10.
What did he mean by this?
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>>377165978
Don't. I had a great time playing one of the best games of the past 20 years on a shiney new console. March 2017 was magic. Go cry somewhere else.
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zelda did everything better
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>>377165930
t. white boi
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>>377166236
>I had a great time
No, you didn't. Stop lying to yourself.
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>>377166075

>avoiding the flaws of Witcher 3
>give it a 10/10

>focus on the flaws of BotW
>give it a 7/10

Oh you.
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>>377166161
>play game "optimized" for consoles
>complains that it can be played on one
Remember what W3 looked like before it CDR bowed to their console overlords?
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>>377166075
It's ok to have shit taste.
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>>377165312
>Witcher 3 sold more on PC than on PS4/Xbone combined
>SONY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
BotWfags are like the Hillary supporters of gaming, they're allergic to facts and create an elaborate alternate reality to support their delusions.
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>>377165831
All the shitposting says otherwise.
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Theres no character in zelda that is slightly equivalent in complexity and dept yen, all zelda characters are dumbed down stereotypes of medieval people but in a pg 12 way where you remove all sexuality and straight up visceral and dark tone of said times and replace them with a world made of pillows for tards not to get hurt mentally or (in game) physically.

Zelda is a weak game with a weak story.
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>>377165210
but what was it
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>>377165606
Didnt know elder scrolls and GTA games dont count as open world now.
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>>377166297
>you didn't have fun with the game of the decade!
Desperate
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>>377166326
Okay, you're right.

Witcher 3 is a 9.9/10.
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>>377164623
>This taco sucks! It's nothing like my favorite hamburger!
>Being this fucking autistic should be illegal.
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>>377166428
None of those have gameplay better than Zelda lmfao
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>>377165207
shit, I didn't know this. May have to go full weeb
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>>377163080
Skyrim
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>>377166397
to*
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>>377166450
>Witcher 3 is a 9.9/10.
What did he mean by this?
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>>377163797
>botw clunky
>witcher 3 not clunky

ahahahahahahaha
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>>377166431
Flavor of the month*
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BotW was more fun minute to minute for me. Traveling is just very enjoyable in it, regardless of what you found. Witcher I didn't enjoy traveling that much, but the visuals and storyline were great.

Since dicking around is the best part of any Open World game and combat wasn't necessarily outstanding in either I guess I'd say I enjoyed BotW's open world more.
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>>377166467
>>This [Sandwich] sucks! It's nothing like my favorite [Sandwich]!
You sound like the autist here man.
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>>377166397
Zelda is a great game with a weak story,
Witcher 3 is a weak game with several great stories
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>>377166490
>climbing simulator
>better than anything
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>>377166565
>Zelda is a great game
Well shilled, Nintenbro.
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BOTW is the greatest GOAT. So it obviously win
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>>377163797
Only the first part of your post is worth reading

BotW: movement based, action oriented open world that is extremely gamey.
W3: realism based, story driven open world. Not gamey by design at all and playing the game through gamey open world methods absolutely fucking sucks compared to playing it as a realistic story simulator
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>>377166075
>Horizon will be the Zelda beater!
>Okay wait, Nier will be the Zelda beater!
>H-Hang on a sec, Persona 5 will be the Zelda beater!
>N-no, it's not.... I mean, The Surge will be the Zelda beater!
>...... Witcher 3! Yes! Witcher 3 was the Zelda beater all along!
>W-wait, please wait.....
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>>377166565
I can accept that.
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>>377166535
>he says this while crying about it two months later
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>>377165828
>All the small pieces off
what?
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>>377166213
fucking hell, is there an alternative to swinging your sword like an autist? This looks like an MMO health chipper
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>>377166467
Not my fault The Witcher 3 has garbage writing compared to Crime and Punishment. Bloodborne's minimalist approach is superior to your shitty polish waifu simulator.
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>>377166636
>driving simulator
>better than anything
>loading screen simulator
>better than anything
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>>377166709
Nice projection, fuckboi.
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>>377165828
>Zelda feels like a real organic world. All of the small
Whoops.
Zelda feels like a real organic world. All of the simple mechanics working in tandem to create emergent gameplay situations is fucking sublime. All of the variety in ways I can approach combat and all the different ways even very similar fights can go are amazing and how well balanced your options are is pretty amazing too. All of the enemies (while there DO need to be more) are well defined from one another and their different presences impact the fights dramatically. I kept expecting to reach the point where the game ran out of stuff to show me and I spent the final hours of the game in monotony but it never came. I was oohing and ahhing at this game from start to finish.

Sheikah Slate abilities, guardian abilities, and gear/unique weapons to replace items worked really well although it might be prudent to add a few more items back in some way shape or form, put boomerang swords more in the spotlight, make wands more distinct from swords, etc. And maybe do something to spice up sheikah slate progression a bit.

Shrines were probably the thing I expected to hate the most but I ended up loving. The puzzles shrines that exist stay fresh all the way through, Shrine quests were mostly well done and had good rewards, combat shrines were questionable, at least the weapons changed (doesn't do a whole hell of a lot) but we needed arenas with the large/flying/turret guardians, multiple guardians, special arenas, etc if they were going to go that route.

Honestly out of everything in BotW the biggest thing I think need improving are the quests, the towns, and needing more to keep and eye out for in the world.
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>>377166817
So fucking desperate
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>>377165606
>No other open world game that can touch Zelda gameplay
Lmao Nier Automata gameplay thrashes botw, retard
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>>377166769
riding motorcycles is pretty fun
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>>377166817
Lol that doesn't even work since he likes the game and is laughing at your dumb ass
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>>377166745
Sent the post early

>>377166829
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>>377165606
Just Cause 2 does "haha dude wacky physics sandbox!" better than BotW does
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>>377166907
>samefagging this hard
Hmmm...
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>>377166890

Why do these terribleposts read like YouTube comments?
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>>377165828
Main plotwise, it gets good at Velen and the Bloody Baron. Also, do the side quests. A lot of people who ask this

>What is there to like about Witcher 3?

Somehow wander into Witcher from Bloodborne/Dark Souls without otherwise caring about story driven games. That doesn't seem to be your issue though so after White Orchard, which was just a griffin hunt, Witcher 3 should have a lot to offer you.
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>>377167048
Nope
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>>377166005
People have these hitbox webms for dark souls, Nier A and witcher and I've never experienced any of these problems after hundreds of hours of gameplay. I feel like these may be issues with user hardware rather than the actual game
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>Witcher 3
>Didn't even finish it because of how boring it was
>Huge, empty open world with barely anything interesting or meaningful spread out
>Supposed to care about these characters I know nothing about
>Supposed to insert myself as Geralt, but it's literally impossible
>Gameplay is fucking trash, and you die if you fall more than 5 feet
>Geralt moves like he's trudging through mud all the time
>Couldn't care less about some of the stories, felt no sympathy towards the Red Baron, who in the end got cucked to death
>Solving mysteries ends up just holding down the Witcher Sense button and looking for red highlights
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>>377167048
You're so desperate fuccboi
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>>377167029
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>>377163080
neither did shit
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>>377167050
Nintendfag please consider suicide
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Zelda botw is the bloodborne equivalent for ninteniggers ... years will go buy, dust will settle over their consoles but they will remember it as it was the highiest peak of their lives because for the moment they were playing it, they felt that the 300 + 60 buckaroos they spend on it paid off in content, and so they will sit together with their chosen console as they pay for their online and buy every other mediocre title while they wait in denial "this could be it, this could be the next zelda/bloodborne" but its not, its just another mediocre title for their mediocre console and dust buries them together while they battle online for who made the best purchase choice.

Brand loyalty is a hell of a drug.
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>>377166890
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Haven't played The Witcher 3, but O have played a couple hours BotW in CemU and I found it terribly mediocre.
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>>377164956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoz5wqXfpwI
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>>377167048
the posts were withing the same minute and the poster count didn't even go up, lmao stop posting
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>>377167124
>Witcher
>Empty
Objectively false, stopped reading
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>>377167215
Both Bloodborne and BoTW are better than The Witcher 3 though.
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>>377167197
Stay mad autist :^)
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>>377167215
Imagine how hard you must rationalize a 1000+ usd purchase for your high end PC that runs Witcher
It goes both ways retard.
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LMAO
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>>377167259
>CemU
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>>377166414
look at the image again
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>>377166561
Are you telling me that The Witcher vs Bloodborne is an apt comparison? Really? This whole thread is shit.
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>>377167318
ya just look at all those ubisoft-tier map markers filled with nothing interesting. nice some crafting mats and a velen longsword! the exploration in this game sure is worth it!
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>>377167318
Except it's true you fucking drone. Of all things to defend about W3 the open world is definitely not one of them.
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>>377167087
yeah your graphics card is what makes the gameplay boring
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>>377167197

>le angry consolewar fanboy shitposting on 4chan! xD
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>>377167215
Thing about great games is that they last forever.

What good is a Xbox or gaming PC when you can't play BoTW and Bloodborne? There hasn't been a single Microsoft exclusive worth a damn since Morrowind.
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>>377167353
>Actually stable 30fps with better resolution
>not the superior experience
I feel sorry for Nintendbroskies.
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>>377167353
It ran fine. ~25 fps with drops.
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>>377167057
>Story driven
>This game thats been championed the fuck around /v/ for the last two years is a story driven game
So you mean the gameplay is shit? I'm not sinking 100 hours into something with bad gameplay. I could get pretty good at a fun game in that amount of time.

I'm at the Bloody Baron now so I'll press on further but if story is ALL this game has going for it I dont care. Story as the lone draw of a game is garbage, full stop, no exceptions.
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>>377163080
They aren't really comparable, one is an RPG and the other was an action game. It would be better to compare Zelda to well... Darksiders and Darksiders is literally Zelda but actually good. So... There's your answer
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official witcher 3 review.

all non-quest related things you can find on the world are copy paste boring shit
no one will talk to you unless they are quest related and you have the quest that requires them
awful ui made for consoles and only 2 consumable slots, making alch spec a chore
no resource management, you just instantly get all your potions back for whats essentiallly free
enemys have 1, maybe 2, attack that they repeat over and over, making fights absolutely boring after an hour
level system only works to the games detriment, as youll quickly outlevel everything you have to do and it will all be easier than the game already is
coming across a SKULL WARNING SIGN monster should be exciting but it's not, because you know it fights exactly the same as all the others of its kind, only with more hp.
"cinematic" controls that ignore accuracy in favor of looking more natural
even death march is easy as fuck due to a lack of enemy attack variety and every ability you can spec into being way too strong
ciri sections are boring and unneeded and only serve to rob you of what could have been the one interesting boss fight in the game.
the final moments of the story seem rushed as fuck, from oh hi crones now we fight, to im eredin i have a secret, im dying my secret is this guy tricked us and i had no plan to deal with it, to oh actually geralt i didnt trick you
majority of loot is randomized and scales to your level. Nothing you find really excites you.
all enemies have an extremely short tether that you will cross unintentionally more often than not. At this point they ignore you and start walking back to the center of the area or hang around to get hit easily
witcher senses are only ever used when the quest requires it and is just hold right click to follow quest arrow. you cant actually track monsters or anything out in the world(and why would you need to? theyre all tethered to a small location and never move away)

6/10 game. Had potential, wasted it.
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>>377167328
Of course, if you are 12.
Try witcher again when you are past 20s.
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>>377167549
How desperate is this autist from 1-10?
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v/ will never get over Breath Of The Wild.

The ass sting will reverberate for the ages.

I will always remember the past 12 months on this board. Watching the same people who devoted so much time and energy to discrediting the Switch and Breath Of The Wild - from spreading lies to cherry-picking screenshots - doing everything within their ability to make the console and the game seem bad.

Only to watch their jaws drop in utter fucking horror as the Switch burst out the gate as a massive overnight success and BotW turned out to be, not just Game Of The Year, but one of the best games ever made.

Fucking glorious. I am actually sore with laughter.
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>People are STILL fucking mad about the Witcher 3
Ayy lmao.
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>>377167449
>There hasn't been a single Microsoft exclusive worth a damn since Morrowind.
So you heard people liked morrowind and used that as your jumping off point because you are entirely ignorant of PC gaming as a whole?
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>>377167449
Technically, you can play botw.
Xbox is a waste of money, but there are several great games for pc, many of wich are exclusives, but even the multiplats on pc plays better so you get the best of both worlds.
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>>377167410
>generic action adventure game isn't comparable to other generic action adventure game
I really don't get your point now.
My original dispute was youre inability to compare two sandwiches though.
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>>377167645
t.autism.
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>>377167328
>>377167341
Worse, he paid $600 more just to be able to play Witcher 3 at a higher resolution.

Bloodborne, Nioh, lower res Witcher 3 >>>>>> higher res witcher 3 and... uh.... ... ... ... ...Civilization? (any toaster, even without a dedicated graphics card, can run Civ)
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>>377167441
Aww I thought the games were fun and the hitboxes worked fine for me in all these games so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>377167658
>Guys, I have shit taste just to troll you :^)
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>>377167645
>Thought BOTW was going to be shit for ages
>mfw I was wrong and got a final great Nintendo game out of my WiiU
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>>377167341
Yeah but once you are done with the witcher you get to play all the other games including past gems that on consoles are not avaliable sometimes or worse, they just resell you them.
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>>377167782
What did he mean by this?
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>>377167885
It's pretty obvious if english isn't your second language.
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>>377167856
>Buying a WiiU
I'm sorry.
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>>377167437
>It's true
It isn't though. There are many many glaring flaws in the game but there is no conceivable way in which you could honestly say that the world is empty. People say that about every fucking open world game and it's simply not true. You could run for 30 seconds in any direction and you'll find something to do.
There are plenty of legitimate things to criticize. Stop making things up
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>>377167197
N:A's gameplay was boring and repetitive. Literally everyone agrees on this
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>>377167923
Hmm...really makes you think...
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Which is the most overrated?
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>>377168130
Bloodborne
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>>377168015
Wrong, it was a fantastic game with God tier combat. I'm sorry you're a geriatric and suck at action games but that doesn't make it bad
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>>377168008
it might as well be empty, probably 90% of the points of interest on the map are not even worth going to. its just the same monster den or bandit camp or other stupid grindy bullshit. trying to 100% all of that stuff should kill anyone from boredom.
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>>377163797
>the people responding to the most obvious bait of this century
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>>377166368
This is the best description of the thread.

You can argue with nintendo manchildren all you want but in the end they will go back to the starting point ignoring all points made, because not moving on is what keeps them on nintendo leash.

Face it, its a company that haven't done anything worth the money they ask for more than a decade.

The only nintendo game that made me give them money was metroid and its now gone. For me and my money nintendo is a no-go zone.
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>>377168130
Breath of the meme.
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>>377168130
Probably Automata, as a huge fan of the first one I felt very disappointed in it.
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>>377168008
There are maybe 5 different types of ? point. After that they are literally all the exact same shit and it's pointless to visit any of them because they will never provide anything of value. Just because there is "something to do" doesn't mean it's entertaining, worthwhile, or a justification for the tacked on OW marketing point.
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>>377168197
I enjoyed the game a lot thanks to its atmosphere and overall construction, but apparently you can't accept that other games are good too. Eat shit you fucking retard
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>>377168130
Bloodborne.
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>>377167971
Nothing to be sorry about. It beat out my 3DS, Vita, and PC for playtime this gen.
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>>377167480
>This game thats been championed the fuck around /v/ for the last two years is a story driven game

Planetscape Torment and Final Fantasy 7 have been championed around the Internet for the last 20 years and both are story driven games. Gameplay's fun, so while not caring about plot and characters isn't as much of a hindrance with Witcher 3 as it would be with the overwhelming bulk of highly acclaimed RPGs, if you don't care much of its appeal is still wasted on you.
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>>377168194
This. Bloodborne was the weakest souls game. Well actually DS2 is but bloodborne is really fighting hard for that spot. I think people just get excited because it's an exclusive and the art direction was phenomenal but the actual gameplay was rather lackluster.
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>>377168249
>Nier hipsters trying to push the Automata is bad meme
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>>377168375
>but the actual gameplay was rather lackluster.
Yup, Fromdrones will defend this.
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>>377168354
Watching hentai on your WiiU doesn't count as playtime.
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>>377168360
>RPGs dont need good gameplay
How delusional do you have to be?
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>>377163080

Narrative: Witcher
Open World: Witcher
Gameplay: Zelda
Side Quests: Witcher
Traversal: Zelda
Characters: Witcher

>bonus round
DLC: Witcher
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>>377168485
How many RPGs have you played?
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>>377168227
>antidrones spend weeks making charts and pastas and then regurgitate them over and over again in threads
>they get their arguments picked apart by a serious reply
>lol autism
>antidrones do the same thing in a different thread
>don't get a serious reply
>lmao mad nintenbros cant even make a proper argument

You people are really hard to please you know.
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>>377168260
I was actually referring to the rather obscene amount of side quests you can do but the treasures are fun too.
>After awhile they lose variation
Fantastic, so does everything in every game you are literally inventing things to be upset about. So, good job. You have revealed you have no legitimate criticism of the game and are nitpicking a miniscule problem. The only game that solves your problem is an mmo like world of Warcraft. But every other game comes to an end.
Yours is therefore, not a legitimate criticism. Now piss off, faggot because witcher still had more to do than botw ever did
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>>377168506
>Open World: Witcher

what is this fucking meme
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>>377165478
This.

Adore both games, but Witcher 3 sucked me in like no other game has since Mario 64. Both amazing games though.
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>>377168485
the best RPGs dont have good gameplay, KOTOR series, BG1 and 2, NWN, Arcanum, Morrowind, Gothic, FONV, Alpha Protocol. in RPGs your interaction with the story IS the gameplay.
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>>377168130

The holy Trinity of really good open world games?
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>>377168130
I feel like TW3 is actually underrated, at least on /v/, judging by the vitriol it receives.
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>>377168607
>antidrones do the same thing in a different thread
>antidrones
Is this what you call people who don't take nintendo cock in their ass ?
oh gee.
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>>377168475
What annoyed me was that it was advertised as a faster combat than dark souls. But...it wasn't really. Yeah they removed shields so you didn't block but guns at many points made things slower.
I mean I still enjoyed it but it was hardly amazing. Oh well. Hopefully they get it right next time
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Nothing in the Witcher compares to Eventide Island. That was just pure gaming bliss.
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>>377168775
>Automata
>Being good for its open world
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>>377168791
Thank you for proving my point.
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>>377168643
>Fantastic, so does everything in every game you are literally inventing things to be upset about
Are you fucking retarded? The entire point of an open world is to explore it and the content they have provided is so miniscule that it defeats the point. It completely fails at what it sets out to do and its hilarious you even try to dismiss it because "other games get repetetive. Spoiler, other games also have more content than a bunch of half assed POIs. Side quests are hardly even out in the open world, most given in towns and instead bring you to one of the few setpieces they actually made. There is nothing the open world adds to the game.
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>>377168831
Witcher also never even comes close to the pure amount of kino in BotW.
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>>377168651

I had more of a motivation to explore W3's ? marks than Zelda. Halfway through Zelda, I realized that every meaningful quest leads to essentially another shrine. Every side quest that isn't a race/collectathon/kill x is a shrine quest. Outside of that, there's just korok seeds. I stopped bothering once I got enough upgrades to be comfortable enough.

W3 has quests that lead all across the map, many have actual dialogue, objectives and isn't just a copy pasted objective with a different skin. Quests reward unique gear like the School equipment and there's an actual incentive to find recipes, oils, artifacts.
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Why are people so salty about BotW?
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>>377168831
I also like Nintendo's cock up my asshole, anon.
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Coming up on 3 months later and /v/ is still ass blasted.

Will you ever recover /v/?

Which method of suicide will you choose once all the awards start rolling in?
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>>377168775
is this post being ironic
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>>377163080
W3 probably has the best looking open world game to date with it's amount of variety and not really samey looking areas plus it's beautiful blowing wind in the trees and grass and stuff but BotW has all the gameplay and exploration, W3 gameplay is significantly worse and exploration sucks balls despite having variety in environments.
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>>377169034
>Discussing videogames is being "analblasted"
What did he mean by this?
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>>377169156
>discussing
More like nitpicking desperately
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>>377169034
>HILLARY WON DA POPULAR VOTE!!!
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>>377169219
>this triggered /pol/tard trying to force his own stupid analogy he finds clever and even replied to
What did he mean by this?
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>>377169215
>NO STOOOOOOOOOOOP DON'T BE MEAN TO ZELDA WAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Okay.
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>>377168783
It isn't underrated. /V/ hates every popular game because they're hipster autists. Look at this thread. Zelda and witcher are both incredible games but because they're popular a bunch of retards come out of the woodwork to screech about their made up issues with them and nitpick actually good games while they turn around and play shitty turn based strategy games from 9 years ago
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>>377168791
>>377169017

stop projecting your fantasies like the disgusting gaylord you are
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>>377165214 here. I just want to say the TES Games have garbage gameplay. I may not have played BotW, but I already know its gameplay blows Skyrim out of the water.
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>>377169335
>NO STOOOOOOOOOOOP DON'T BE MEAN TO ME WAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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Should I buy the complete edition of the Witcher?
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>>377169034
Slant gave it a 6/10.

Enough said.
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>>377169608
/ourguy/ gave it a 7 too.
Can't wait to see what he gives Odyssey.
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>>377169608
>this famously contrarian shit website gave it a 6 and that's all I'll say, enough said.
Yes, enough said, you desperate hipster.
Keep crying about it.
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>>377169380
>play shitty turn based strategy games from 9 years ago
What are you even talking about?
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>>377169608
>>377169693
Are you faggots resorting to scores to validate your opinion now? Because Zelda's average score is higher
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>>377169693
>/ourguy/
>morbidly obese cuckold LARPer
He sure is your guy!
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>>377169693
>increasingly desperate contrarians need to call a literal cuckold /theirguy/ because he has a personal vendetta against Nintendo like them
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Playing Witcher 3.
I enjoy the story, music, everything else. But the gameplay feels very lackluster.

Does it get better? I'm only about 6 hours in, and all the future abilities "sound" cool, but I'm not sure...
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>>377169693
>siding with neogaf's favorite e-celeb

How can you sink so low? Fucking cancer
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>>377169749
>crying
Isn't that exactly what you Nintendo fanboys are always doing? How many death threats did you send to Slant?
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>>377170084
About 1/1000th the amount of crying threads that /v/ has made over botw
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>nintendo fanboys
They really are a depressing breed.
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Witcher 3 is THE normie filter.
All the faggots who secretly enjoy story driven games with shitty gameplay now come out of the closet because they get backed up by their fellow Witcherfags.
I played both games and the only thing I like about Witcher 3 is the gritty and dark atmosphere but that ones on the books though.
Really, Witcher 3 is just a directed experience to transfer the content of the books in a cinematic manner to the viewer.
It's the perfect indicator to show who can appreciate good games and who gets fooled by pretty graffix.

Meanwhile, Zelda is vidya from start to just before the final boss cause he suck's.

I don't even know why I'm replying. This thread is just full of uneducated shitflining and low effore trolling
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>>377163080
Breath of the Wild has some novel ideas which are elevated just by virtue of being in a Nintendo game (because they don't typically develop this far outside their comfort zone). It's a good game, but it lacks the things that make Witcher 3 truly great (characters, writing, a real story, graphics more recent than 2006).
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>>377170338
>recording yourself fake crying over iwata's death
What a fucking spastic.
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>>377169845
>>377169875
>>377169907
>>377170052
To be fair Jim was 100% right in his review and we need people like him to call out objectively bad game design such as weapon degradation.
He's probably the most important voice in gaming right now desu.
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Don't you fucking Sony assholes get it? You're supposed to give it a 10/10 because everyone else did. Jesus fucking christ.

Fuck those stupid bribed reviewers. They just don't fucking get it.
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>>377170525
Imagine being this desperate to have your minor idiotic nitpicks validated that you grasp onto the words of some literal redditor cuckold that throws his bull's semen on his face and call him the "most important voice in gaming"
This, this is the state that BotW left shitposters in.
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Breath of the Wild is genuine ludo. The Witcher 3 is not even half as good as WRPGs like Baldur's Gate 2.
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>>377163080
GTAV
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>>377170925
> ludo
Ow the autism.
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>>377165919
>BotW
>good
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this board is a fucking joke.
go to 9gag or some shit if you weebs want some memes.
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>>377163080
BOTW destroys TW3's hairy, shit-caked ass like it was nothing.

If you're a storytard, you'd play the discount GoT cinematic experience.

If you're a real gamer, you'd play the best open world game ever.
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>>377170525
It's one thing for somebody to point out flaws that need to be addressed, which there are, I'd say SBH's video was a great one for bringing people down to Earth. But it's another to latch onto Jim so hard for giving it a lower review. Taking one 7/10 and trying to enshrine it as the only trustworthy review because it's the only contrary one they could find is just sad. And regardless of whether or not he has good points there is nothing on this Earth that will stop me from calling him the fat cuck he is.
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>>377171114
Nice photoshop retard, how many times will you post this pic?
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>>377170925
>Baldur's Gate 2
Kiddies like you sure enjoy talking up games you never played. No doubt you enjoy pretending to be older and wiser than you really are.

If you actually played the game, you'd realize just how bad some of the writing is in BG2.
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>>377171154
>If you're a real gamer, you'd play the best open world game ever.
And I will continue to do so.
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>>377163080
Non-meme answer: both games did different things better than the other

Hopefully in future installments both developers take inspiration from the other to make their respective games better
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>>377171398
Look at this fool
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I don't undertand the people saying the Witcher 3 has good writing. It is worse than the writing in The Walking Dead.
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>>377171314
Depends, how many more times are you retards gonna make shitty BotW shill threads?
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>>377166696
Best post in the thread.
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>>377171452
>I don't undertand the people saying the Witcher 3 has good writing.
Because not everyone is a contrarian.
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>>377163080
Breath of the Wild

I haven't even played it. W3 is shite
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>>377163080
They both did things better than the other, and a game that was the best of both worlds would be the absolute tits.
Overall I think TW3 was better though.
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>>377171336

It's fucking disgraceful that your first thought is the writing and not the RPG mechanics which are far superior in BG2. Kill yourself faggot.
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>>377171514
As many as I want to
If you have a problem with it look for a safespace elsewhere.
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>>377169968

Anyone?
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>>377171398
>worse map design
>worse combat
>worse dungeon design
>somehow better

I like Morrowind, and am a contributor for OpenMW but it's not the better game.
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>>377171558
>everything after kaer morhen
>Geralt, ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE, but all the big bad evil guys are having a party for some reason so we should go and get them
>Geralt I'm the big bad evil boss, I have a secret, Avallach is not who he seems.. MUAHAHAHA. yes isnt it strange I know this and had no plan to deal with him
>Geralt, this is actually all a big misunderstanding and i was on your side all along
>hi im ciri brb saving the world

CDPR can do good episodic style writing like the crones or the summer wedding in W1, but their overall plots are complete shit.
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>>377170393
I don't think it's possible to get more normie than Mario and Zelda.

The less writing a game actually has the more it appeals to casuals so that at the absolute extreme you have games like Candy Crush and Farmville.
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>>377171803
>Better side quests
>Timeless OST
>Better lore and story
>Better roleplaying options
>Isn't reliant on a map (although BotW does a good job at this too)
>Better towns and villages
Let's be real, it's a competition between Morrowind and Breath of the Wild and Morrowind edges it out in the meaningful aspects.
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>>377169968
>>377171778
I'm 12 hours in and I'd say it got better, and I think it will get better later.
But overall I didn't enjoy the game nearly as much as I thought to, cause of all the faggot-hype.
Also I did many sidequests so maybe you're even further with the story/region than I am.
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>>377171803
>W3 having a worthwhile open world at all

and morrowind combat is superior because your stats actually have a point which is more than you can say about witcher
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>>377172034
this this this this
ain't no nintendo-weebs fucking with elder scrolls
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>>377171452
/v/ kiddies are not used to other mediums and are stuck with the garbage writing in videogames. Even JK Rowling is a better writer than the writers at CD Projekt
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>>377171763
Sounds to me like you're the one in need of a safespace here buck-o.

Take your Zelda discussions to /vg/ if you want a circlejerk.

Enjoy your derail btw.
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>>377163080
W3 may have had an interesting Genre Fiction story, but it was a meh game.

Botw is a masterpiece
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>>377172254
>garbage writing in videogames.
t. underage
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>>377172449
JK Rowling is a better writer than Chris Avellone. How deluded are /v/ kiddies to believe otherwise?
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>>377172193
hi todd :)
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>>377172657
>"No!"
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SlClaiming that TW3 was even a great game is such a huge fucking con it's unreal. Literally nonexistent fucktarded gameplay. When you think the game could seriously get good, it's already fucking ended and reminded you you're a cuck for trying to get enjoyment from it.
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>>377172034
I'd have to disagree, and could only call them equals at best.

I'd say the OSTs are the same if you include the compositions that appeared in the trailer but are still part of the games OST, Morrowind's Soundtrack is actually quite weak, it has very few strong themes and is easily eclipsed by Skyrim/Oblivion, even though both borrow Morrowind's main theme.

Better lore and Story is a given but for Breath of the Wild these don't matter, it's not an RPG and doesn't rely on it's story or lore, neither are things like roleplaying, and even then, for the most part Morrowind is poor in the aspect of RPG.character building, it's really just fun to game the game, which Breath of the Wild also lets you do.

Side quests yes and no, Breath of the Wild has a few really good sidequests, like the Shrine ones which eclipse Morrowind's one in terms of gameplay, but absolutely not

Breath of the Wild is also not reliant on the map, navigation is done far far better than any other open world game and there are a lot of NPCs that give out written directions.

Towns are better but I absolutely cannot stand the fact that internal cells are inconsistent with the outside world, and the stupid fucking quirks like towns being so close together, then there are things like NPCs being pretty much static, which just kills immersion for me which is at Morrowind's cores
>>377172101
I'm talking about Breath of the Wild, it's easily the best designed open world of any game.
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>>377167645
>>377167658
Hmm...
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>>377166753

Yea, by not running into a bug.
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>>377173484
/thread
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>>377173484
>it's easily the best designed open world of any game.

what is gothic
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>>377163080
which one did what better? they both had different goals in mind
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>>377166467
who are you quoting?
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>>377173183
I actually believed this and was told to check out Dark Souls. Payed 20 bucks for a game without a plot that resembles what I could have gotten free through my NES emulator.

If you're actually interested in what Witcher 3 is selling its one of the best games out there. The only time /v/ really led me well was in telling me to play Planescape Torment.
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>>377166529
/v/ lied to me. this is not better than skyrim at all
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>>377163080

Witcher 3 and it isn't even close.

Zelda is your typical manchild RPG with a horrible story, and shallow gameplay. Witcher 3 can be enjoyed by children and adults alike, because it has a deep and interesting story, as well as a cast of amazing characters.

Nintendo will NEVER rival the quality of CDPR.
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>>377166769
>loading screen simulator
only on console you nerd
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>>377174098
>Witcher 3 can be enjoyed by children and adults alike, because it has a deep and interesting story, as well as a cast of amazing characters.

notice how the witcherfag avoids the word gameplay
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>>377174460
>notice how the witcherfag avoids the word gameplay
Can you blame them?
>>377166005
>>377166213
>>377166529
They're only defense is >Muh bug
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>>377167221
says the guy posting le reddit emperor
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>>377169693
>/oureceleb/
kill yourself
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>>377170525
>weapon degradation
>bad gameplay
fucking nerds I'd love to see you try to play morrowind and try call it shit
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>>377164564
to reddit
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witcher 3 has a better story but damn it if the game play doesnt suck ass and the controls are clunky as fuck, not to mention the horse is fucking worthless, also the exploration is pointless, everything is marked for you theres no cool shit to find.
zelda maybe a simpler game but at least what there is works all the time.
love them both though and wouldnt compare one to the other in terms of which one is better.
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>>377174556
Much like this guy
>>377167087
I never ran into any of those glitches.
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>>377175327
>glitches
it's a feature, shithead
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>>377163080
Zelda is the greatest exploration game ever made.

Witcher 3 is the greatest open world RPG ever made.

They don't really do anything much alike.
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>>377174460

notice how the manchild is only enthralled by quickly mashing buttons to hold the attention of his autism, and can't digest anything harder than a children's picture book

I feel bad for you, I really do.
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>>377175382
Then I've played to Kahr Morhen without once running into any of those "features" from the wedms, and apparently neither has the other guy either.
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>>377175423
>he says while defending storytelling based games
Cancer
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>>377175385
>Witcher 3 is the greatest interactive storybook ever made.
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>>377175385
>Witcher 3 is the greatest open world RPG ever made.
That's where you're wrong kiddo, Fallout 4 might have terrible story but it's gameplay is ludo compared to W3.
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>>377175423
>Picture book
>Witcher 3
Pick both
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>>377169608
they gave nms a 9/10, do not give them attention
>>377169693
they gave dead rising 4 an 8/10 and horizon zero dawn a 9/10, do not give him attention
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>>377175640
its gameplay is literally fallout 3 but with a poorly implemented village mechanic.
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>>377168783
It's a game with bad gameplay that focuses almost entirely on story

If /v/ didn't throw it shade I'd lose faith in this board. Hell I already lost a bit of faith with how many people defend it.
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>>377171536
thank you anon I tried
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>>377175853
FO3 has better gameplay than W3 so I'm not sure I get your point.
W3 has a good narrative, but it's gameplay is a hot 5/10.
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>>377174556
patched bugs and faked webms don't count
>>377166213
>geralt hits for zero
>no stamina drain
this is fake news
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>>377170525
>100% right
>"Shrines are bad because once you see one you have to go to it or you'll forget about it and never find it again"
>"Weapons break after a few hits. Here's a video" *Shows video of him picking up sticks on the plateau and breaking them against bokoblins*
>Review has him questioning other reviewers. Instead of focusing on his own shit he makes it completely obvious he's just attention whoring

100% right.
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>>377176191
>b-but other game sucks!
and that's relevant how? F4 is the only fallout game i couldn't finish because of how fucking boring it was. Literally the same shit as the previous two games with a few added gimmicks.
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>>377169380
>because they're hipster autists
we've just been playing video games longer than you've been alive. How this generation of faggots thinks that gives them equal footing and judgement blows my fucking mind. we know more about video games than you do. we've played more games than you. we have higher standards than you. your favorite popular game is probably shit that doesn't live up to an older game. deal with it.
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>>377176191
>FO3 has better gameplay than W3
why don't you kill yourself

fo3 has some of the worst RPG combat of all time, especially since the RPG mechanics are lacking/broken/absent and shooting without vats is a fucking nightmare
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>>377176485
>especially since the RPG mechanics are lacking/broken/absent
Wait, why did you start talking about Witcher 3 mid-sentence?
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>>377176485
Still better than Shitter 3.
This webm never fails to make me kek.
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>>377176408
We had an age thread here just the other day.

>>377099921

Us oldfags were amazed how many teenagers make up /v/, though in retrospect
>>377169380
It shouldn't have been surprising.
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>>377174573
>what is /pol/
>>
Can anyone who dislikes W3's combat say anything specifically as to why they disliked it and not via webms?
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>>377176705
>it's an anon pretends fo3 was anything other than unplayable garbage he has nostalgia for playing when he was 10 years old and his friends played it too episode
>>377176713
it's an anon mocks something he hasn't played episode
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>>377176825
as somebody who defend TW3 the lock on system is fucking shit and needs to be abolished or replaced through mods to be fun, and luckily both options are available

enhanced targeting system + e3dodge is pretty fucking great
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>>377176825
>Can anyone say what they like without webms showing how shit it is
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>>377174573
I thought that was Bornie Sanders

the only real love for Trump is on r/the_donald most of reddit hates Trump just go on r/all
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>>377176942
the webms are of bugs that either don't exist or they're outright faked
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>>377176942

>I can't even google gameplay videos about a game I'm shitposting about
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>>377176713
its fair but the shitter in me enjoyed the ridiculous dodge of witcher 3
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>>377176825
It's shallow
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>>377176825
I stopped playing because I kept getting a bug mid combat where I would get locked out of combat, even in the middle of a fight. Apparently it was fairly common.
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>>377176825
enemies and bosses are completely braindead have extremely limited move sets that amount to spamming one move over and over. Flying enemies have no reason to fly because that's just a free stun from your xbow. It's unbelievably boring and makes combat feels like a chore since there is also hardly any enemy variety. So you have a small handful of enemies each with 1-3 attacks at most. Even if the witcher had a decent core combat system the enemy design would still bring it down
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>>377177096
So is Zelda's
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>>377169380
9 years ago was only fucking 2008. Are you trying to call Assassins Creed and Far Cry 2 old now?
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>>377177107
>Apparently it was fairly common
it's not
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>>377176805
reddit 2.0
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>>377177184
Except Zeldas combat isn't limited to just hitting the enemy with a sword
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>>377177184
In Zelda the ways you can take down an enemy is limited to your creativity, try playing the game before shitposting.
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>>377177170

Basically described Zelda.

>>377177372

Signs, bombs, potions, oils, crossbow, mutagen
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>>377177554

>muh creativity

Please enlighten me on how approaching a bokoblin camp in the most roundabout way possible is amazing gameplay. It's like saying luring bandits near cliffs in Skyrim to shout them off is fun and engaging and not boring after the 1st 2 times.
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>>377177705
>It's like saying luring bandits near cliffs in Skyrim to shout them off is fun and engaging
you're damn right that's still fun
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>>377177607
Once again those are all specific combat options
Zelda has systems that allow you to damag3 enemies without relying on spells or gear to directly harm your enemies
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>>377164102
It's FAR less clunky than Zelda
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>>377177705
>Nu-/v/ is too stupid to take advantage of Breath of the Wild's combat options
100% ludo in webm related.
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>>377177705
it's much closer to Crysis due to the environment interaction and verticality of movement. You really only have 2 or 3 choices in enemy encounters but that's more than almost any other game and it shakes things up enough so that very few are the same
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>>377177904
>mfw trying to do this
every time my sword was about to get hit I'd throw it at the Hinox but i'd throw it too early so it'd break before lightning struck. I did it three times, I was so fucking pissed. Then I tried using magnesis to hold the sword on the hinox and that didn't work either. You must only be able to pull it off with a boomerang
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>>377177607
i havent played zelda so i dont care
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>>377177856
t. hasn't played Zelda
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>>377177779

The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt - Humpty Dumpty - Kill 10 opponents by knocking them off somewhere high with the Aard Sign
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>>377178764
now that you mention it I can't believe there wasn't a humpty dumpty edgy slavic easter egg side quest. would have been great
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>>377178204
Most disappointing game released this year
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>>377175775
>waaaah, they liked games i didn't like! don't give them attention
Fucking pathetic nintendobabies.
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>>377180267
Reminder they DDoSed Jim over his BotW review.
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>>377163080
both are pretty good. don't know why liking two similar games is such a blasphemy on this board.
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>>377179889
>Being so bad at Zelda that you have to call it clunky
I just feel bad for you
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>>377180823
>implying anyone can be bad at a video game made for literal children
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>>377181371
*tips fedora*
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>>377181475
Nice argument
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>>377180553
how DARE you
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>>377181371
You are though
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>>377181494
thank you
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>>377181494
That wasn't an argument.
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>>377175105
GET OUT FUNNYJUNK
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>>377181591
Yes normies and hot topic goers are clearly skilled gamers that's why they choose zelda to jizz themselves over.
There's a reason it's the epitome of le epic geek culture. It's because it's fucking easy.
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>>377181680
Glad you agree, friend.
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>>377167534
You know there's config in the game that fixes some of the "issues" you posted here? Or you just don't patch games?

Also some of these arguments are applicable to almost every open world games. This doesn't mean thats not an issue but there is no such thing as a masterpiece.
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>>377163080
BotW is reasonably playable without the HUD, while Witcher 3 is a pain in the ass and requires an uncomfortable level of investment in order to do so.

BotW did it better. Better geography.
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>>377163080
Both are basically the pinnacle of their respective genres.

Witcher being an open world narrative driven experience.

Zelda being an open world gameplay driven experience.

A skilful combination of the two styles, although incredibly expensive, would make for a marvellous game.
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>>377163080
Ah yes, The Redditor 3: Failed Cunt and The Cuckening of Zelda Breath of the Fart, two examples of why modern 'videogames' are dead.
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>>377184225
/thread
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these games shouldnt be compared.
botw is a gamey open world adventure game in which you are meant to do whatever you want using the world as a sandbox.
the witcher is a visual novel with roleplaying if that word means anything anymore aka choosing between multiple outcomes in a scenario where the outcome is not clear or black and white. the open world in the witcher is not meant to be a sandbox and is not designed to just explore, it is meant to create a cohesive believable world, which greatly benefits roleplaying.
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>got rid of old toaster can finally play witcher 3
>hear complaints it's an empty world
>find out it's the complete opposite

k. I'll admit the Witcher contracts get a bit repetitive but most of the complaints are unwarranted. Is there some dead space? Of course but there's still more shit to do. Not once did I feel like I'm 'wasting' any time in dead space, I'm getting shit done even on the way to a quest.
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>>377183270
>there is no such thing as a masterpiece.
Then don't call the game one.
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>>377166829
>All of the variety in ways I can approach combat
You need to play proper Action games.

>how well balanced your options are
>balanced
>most weapons are entirely redundant
>Ancient/Lynel shits on everything for damage
>ice laughs at mobs
>armor/food break the game

>All of the enemies (while there DO need to be more) are well defined from one another
The 1 HP trash is pretty well all the same, toss bomb and they die.
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>>377171336
>talks about Baldurs Gate 2
>screenshot from Baldurs Gate 1

Sounds to me like you're the one talking about games you've never played
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>>377168197
>Wrong, it was a fantastic game with God tier combat.
Half the fights boil down to oneshotting them with a Pod Program and there's literally reason to bother with melee past the halfway point of Route B if you know what you're doing, with the sole exception of the arena.
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>>377190840
Fucking destroyed.
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>>377190562
See >>377177904

If you're going to make a game open world and sacrifice all level design and pacing and a lot of other things for a large world you should at least make the gameplay conducive to the world being a gigantic playground, thats why games that started this trend like GTA and Just Cause were so much fun in the first place and thats why game like Dragon Age Inquisition suck ass as open world games.
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>>377191517
>you should at least make the gameplay conducive to the world being a gigantic playground
But Zelda doesn't do that outside some of its physics gimmicks, which are typically super situational and have nothing to do with being open world. The core combat has lots of flaws.
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>>377190562
Oh and for balance
>Most of the weapons are entirely redundant
They needed more variety sure but they managed to squeeze out a lot for 3 melee weapon types, bows, and shields.
There was the 3 elemental enchants, guardian weapons, boomerang swords, two tiers of wands for the 3 elements, a sword that cut a wind attack forward, bows that went into first person, bows that shot 2 and 3 arrows, lower grade weapons stayed relevant because of random enhancements, the master sword has the full health beam, I'm pretty sure there's more that I'm forgetting as well
>Ancient/Lynel shit on everything
Ancient weapons get outpaced by the end of the game, whatever the last rank of standard weapon is before you get the royal guard rank in Hyrule Castle regularly get a random upgrade to be around or above ancient weapons, and the master sword works as well as ancient weapons. you also have to farm ancient/lynels constantly to upkeep having those. BOTW is balanced because even though there are really strong options in the game almost all of them are prohibitive to upkeep constantly or have some other drawback. Bomb arrows are fucking strong but they're finicky in weather, the dont work in rain and explode at the volcano, they're expensive, and they can often destroy loot in enemy bases, the ancient arrow is expensive, going straight for the eye on ancients decreases your loot dramatically, using the item on other creatures yields no loot. The elemental arrows all get weaker and stronger depending on their situation as well.

>armor/food break the game
I never said it was the most difficult game ever. If you don't cheese though there's some fun to be had. Should have removed roll damage and made it so link couldnt eat until he got up and on a cooldown or something

which are typically super situational and have nothing to do with being open world
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>>377191818
>which are typically super situational and have nothing to do with being open world
That's the thing about BotW, every small situational thing like fire, lightning, cold, dragon appearances, suddenly finding a stone talus, the exotic mounts, weather, physics, assassins,particularly unique shrines all show up often enough to keep the game fresh, and when they show up they often do at the same time and start interacting. Emergent gameplay>>>A whole lot of not terrible writing in a graphics showcase
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>shitter 3 vs best game of last 10 years

geee i wonder
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Surely we can all agree that W3 story and OST > BotW?
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>>377195306
Breath of the Wild didn't have either so I'm not sure what there is to compare.
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Forget the games for a moment, I know this for sure.

Fans of the Witcher 3 tend to be redpill autist types or Chads. Fans of BOTW are either aspergers weebs or literal children.

So, you decide which group is better.
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>>377168130
Nier, Persona, and Wither 3.
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>>377176279
Dumbass, that's the fucking glitch
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>>377163329
>From Ofier's Distant Shores is still bugged

fuck my life and every moment I've lived
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>>377195306
W3 story was crap. The "repentant wifebeater" shit is straight out of a rejected Law & Order script. Any discount fantasy novel you'd find at an airport bookstore will tell you a better story. 95% of the time the gameplay will be diametrically opposed to the narrative.

Zelda's narrative is minimalist and free form, told in a way that could only be done in video games. This is what open world game stories should be.
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>>377197654
meant for>>377163080
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>>377166005
>Dodges when he's supposed to hit
>Hits when he's supposed to dodge

Cant blame the game for your own retardedness, anon.
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>>377167124
>supposed to care about characters i know nothing about

What did you expect? a recap of all the previous games featuring all the characters and how they are related to geralt?
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>>377166698
/thread.

This entire thread is just yet another daily attempt salty faggots to try prove to themselves that BotW isn't the modern masterpiece everyone claims it it. It just cannot be true! There must be some game better than BotW. Any game will do.
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Witcher 1>>>>>>>Witcher 3>BotW>Witcher 2
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>>377170393
>This isnt a real game, you cant enjoy this
>this, is a real game however.
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It's been almost 3 months /v/. These threads are just thinly veiled sperg attempts at Nintendo hate.


Why don't you just give up and accept reality - BotW is a modern masterclass in game design. All the crying and tantrums in the world will not change a fucking thing. The game is already in the history books and will appear in GOAT lists for decades to come.

Feels good.
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>>377202131
Imagine being so autistic that you can't get over a great game being succesful and over the fact that you can't rewrite history no matter how much you shitpost.
Nintendo did it again.
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>>377163797
>W3 not clunky
(You)
>>
Cant really speak for Zelda but at least the Witcher seems like a current gen game
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>>377202212
>Nintendo did it again.

By that you mean they released yet another genre-defining video game? Yes. I'm glad we agree.
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>>377202264
In what way? Graphics? Is that it?
>>
知らない間にいろんな所の送られるのでいちいち覚えていない
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>>377163797
Unironically this.

There is a before and an after TW3, every open-world RPG that comes out now is inspired by it, even weeb games -FFXV and, yes, BotW were- and they are compared to it, that's why Bethesda couldn't get a free pass with Fallout 4 like it did with Fallout 3
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>>377202819
He doesn't know that BotW is now the new high benchmark for open world game design and every open world will now be measured against it.
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>>377202292
Exactly.
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>>377168475
>This webm
>bad game design

Gunmen are meant to be an annoyance from far away, up close they're meant to be trash. The enemy in the webm is doing what it's supposed to
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>>377168857
One of the things I hoped wouldn't carry over from the first NieR is the few locations. Fucking Platinum.

Still, if nothing else, I appreciate how connected the world is.
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>>377166817
This is really sad
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>>377167048
This is also sad
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>>377203076
I can absolutely understand the open world design/gameplay, but why are people also praising the narrative and OST?
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>>377170084
Plot twist: He sucks Slant's dick
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>>377203807
Honestly, nobody in their right mind would pretend that BotW has better story. If anything, the open world design means that story has to take a back seat because staged narrative trigger points would defeat the entire purpose of the freedom Nintendo were trying to nail. Some people will want a meaty emotional story, some people just want to play games.

As for the OST, I'm pretty sure the minimalist soundtrack in BotW is deliberate to tie into the themes of isolation and desolation. Played with a decent pair of head phones, the sound design of the natural world is actually pretty impressive.
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>>377204263
Thanks for an actual response, anon. Have a good one.
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>>377165312
you know witcher 3 is multiplatform right?
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>>377170393
>Witcher 3 is THE normie filter.
and breath of the wild isn't?
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>>377163797
this right here
console fags responding its bait
pro tip its not
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>trying to pit 2 fanbases who each love their respective game against each other whilst instigating shit cause you're an edgy contrarian meme lord

Do fuck off OP
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>>377196147
>TFW redpilled Asperger's Chad
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>>377163080
Zelda is a better game, it has better combat, riddles and dungeons.
Witcher 3 has talking.
Both games are overrated to eye rolling levels.
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>>377207710
Instead FO3 drones came crawling out
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>>377163080

>fotm ARPG
>fotm RPG

I say neither
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>>377163080
zelda is hot garbage
at least the witcher 3 had a decent stories in the quests
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>>377210991
>decent story
>W3
Lmao nice try sonybro
>>
the one thats a getting a tv series out of it
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>>377163080
The one with actual combat.
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>>377163080
Netflix doing a tv drama witcher.
hype?
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>>377211841
witcher then. good to know.
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>>377166213
It's treason, then.
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>>377211941
>combat
>when it's just spamming potions because they are the most OP shit in the game and you don't even need to do anything else
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>>377163080
>Witcher for RP shit and graphics
>Zelda for details and world
>Dragon's Dogma for Gameplay.
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>>377212043
As opposed to your hundred apples in Zelda which you can eat at any moment
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>>377211941
Witchers 1's combat sucks. Witcher 2 combat is horrible. Witcher's 3 combat is absolutely shit.
The game is good, but the gameplay is pretty bad.
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>>377212243
Witcher 1s combat doesn't suck, it's just lame. It's isometric combat reformatted for a a single character to be more action based. they did a decent job

Witcher 2's is janky as fuck but the core design is fine. FCR2 fixes basically every issue with it. IMO FCR2 is the best combat in the series. Witcher 2 with FCR2 has the best approach to group combat, the best balance of signs and other combat tools, and the best leveling approach to signs, alchemy, and swords

Witcher 3 is supposed to be an improved Witcher 2 combat, but it fails to do that. It has a much worse and almost entirely broken lock on system that fucking sucks and is worse than TW2 in every way. You have less control over Geralts animations than ever before and you don't have to worry about group control with signs, bombs, and traps because no matter what difficulty you can dive into a group of enemies and win
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>>377212181
>Dragon's Dogma for Gameplay.
fuck no, that games combat is shit. sure it has le ebin currahzy animations and big monsters but it otherwise fucking sucks. Enemies are either single hit wastes of time or damage sponges, there is very little tactical elements to the combat, and the way movesets are changed out for button prompts makes it feel like a fucking MMO where swinging your sword is a spell
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>>377163797
He's right.
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>>377173484

>I'd say the OSTs are the same
>Morrowind's Soundtrack is actually quite weak

You contradicted yourself. Are you going to support one over the other? You can't choose both to be equal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH4XH-AEYzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szIelpG7CXU

>Better lore and Story is a given

It's good that you recognize that Morrowind is superior in these regards.

>for Breath of the Wild these don't matter

It does. BOTW has a plot, a premise, dialogue and characters that have a past relationship to Link. However, what we're discussing is the QUALITY of these core story-telling elements and how they're implemented into the series as a whole. Did you think BOTW did that well or not?

>Breath of the Wild has a few really good sidequests, like the Shrine ones
>120 copypasted Shrines are good sidequests

OK.

>Breath of the Wild is also not reliant on the map

Neither is Morrowind. You can roam (i.e walk, run, teleport, travel on silts, use alchemical potions or utilize enchanted scrolls to fly through the sky or walk on water) throughout the terrain without looking at the main map once. Even in the options menu you can disable the map-function, however, that depends on the player's choice.

>there are a lot of NPCs that give out written directions

It's exactly the same in Morrowind. Talking with NPC's reveals locations of unknown (i.e to the MC) villages, towns, cities, temples, provinces, cave networks, clans, guilds and landmarks which could also be learned otherwise through books and tomes.

>for the most part Morrowind is poor in the aspect of RPG character building

In characterization? False. The history that the MC has within Morrowind is discovered through investigation and interaction with other people, objects and quests to understand the role that the Nerevarine has to play in prophecy against Dagoth-Ur. For game mechanics, it depends on what class that you choose to be. In BOTW, Link has to stop Ganon (again).
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>>377166696
>realism based
>Spin2win
No.
>>
Witcher shills never mention gameplay, it's all about graphics and how many GOTY awards it won. That's because it's actually a mediocre game that gets a free pass because it justifies buying a stupid expensive pc. Because they're still unaware that the true master race is more about emulating than maxing out shitty games like TW3.
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>>377212951
Zelda has exactly the same combat.
>>
They did open world differently so its retarded to butt heads and scream how fans of the other game are autists.
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>>377212980
BotW doesn't have combat that feels like everything has input delay with how sluggish and slow it is to move and attack like it is in Witcher 3
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>>377165150
it is when it gets closer
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>>377212569
>very little tactical elements to the combat
lel, didn't get very far did you
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>>377192514
>they managed to squeeze out a lot for 3 melee weapon types, bows, and shields.
I agree, but that doesn't change the fact most of your options are redundant.

>There was the 3 elemental enchants
These are normal with rider effects. Only a couple are really useful (ice, Great Thunderblade).

>guardian weapons
These are basically the same as Ancient, except most are worse.

>boomerang swords
Of which half are redundant.

>two tiers of wands for the 3 elements
When there is no reason to ever use the weaker tier. While they are no doubt and some of the most unique weapons, they're 1H swords with projectiles attached.

>a sword that cut a wind attack forward
That weapon is almost entirely pointless.

>bows that went into first person, bows that shot 2 and 3 arrows
Yes, these are nice. They also make most bows you come across worthless in comparison.

>lower grade weapons stayed relevant because of random enhancements
Which leave them far below Ancient/Lynel and functionally inferior to elemental.

>the master sword has the full health beam
It's so weak you'll basically never use it for that.

>Ancient weapons get outpaced by the end of the game
Not with the armor set bonus.

>the master sword works as well as ancient weapons
It doesn't come close. A Guardian Sword++ can get like 100 attack before the Ancient set bonus, buffs or the additional damage it does to guardians.

>you also have to farm ancient/lynels constantly to upkeep having those
Which is one of the stupidest parts of the game. Strategy and balance in combat should come from applying weapon properties to the enemies, not 'oh shit another toy broke'. Durability is a pointless hassle.
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>>377192514
>almost all of them are prohibitive to upkeep constantly
Which is a terrible time waster, and you can grab elemental weapons from around the map to destroy mobs until the next blood moon. If the only reason your weaker royal weapon are good is because your stronger lynel weapon is going to shatter, you've done a poor job with the weapon system.

>I never said it was the most difficult game ever.
It certainly isn't balanced.

>Should have removed roll damage and made it so link couldnt eat until he got up and on a cooldown
Agreed.

>>377192827
But 99% of the time your better off just freezing mobs or DPSing things to death with spin2win or bows. I agree the emergent gameplay is nice, but it comes from physics and mechanics improvements, not open world.
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>>377203076
Stop posting the same fucking image every BotW thread, the game isn't perfect nor did it set a new benchmark for the open world meme.
>>
I'd love to play Zelda games, but only if you took out all the Zelda/Link shit. If BotW is good, it's probably only good because it's about that shit.
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>>377163080
The witcher 3 is fucking trash. Botw is a better videogame.
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>>377167856
Good on you. I tend to skip console generations and ended up going for Switch version, and a friend has the WiiU version. Switch wins on graphics, and WiiU edges out on load times. Either way, have yet to regret.
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>>377165606
>Zelda has better gameplay than TW3
Keep dreaming nintenshill, TW3 has great gameplay with unique approaches to enemies and encounters that actually matter.
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>>377165828
>Zelda feels like a real organic world
STOPPED READING RIGHT THERE
Thats some shit taste bucko. TW3's world is leagues better and better feeling than rehashed bullshit world of zelda
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>>377166005
The guy playing that is a fucking dumbass
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>>377166075
Agreed, Witcher 3 has amazed me and made me feel the magic of video games again. I thought I lost it with a lost of releases of games prior that, but Witcher 3 really revitalized it.

Zelda just felt like a slog through another path of empty flat bullshit, with the occasional hill and bandit camp.
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>>377221631
Then so does Skyrim's and FO4s

Oh wait, I forgot those games suck and that Witcher isn't held to the same standards and is just good because you say so, my bad!
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>>377166213
>no stamina or adrenaline drain
Fake
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>>377221914
>skyrim and fo4
>organic world
You wouldn't know an organic world if you lived in one
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>>377221709
>>377221954
>Witcher defense force
Kek
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>>377212951
Witcher 3 has good gameplay with plenty of options for people. You could go full toolmaster, using bombs, oils and potions or you could go all out attack and glass cannon melt your way through 1v1s, or even spell master and just cast your way through crowds at the risk of low defense for higher cast rate.

There are multiple viable ways to play Witcher 3, and the gameplay requires you to know your enemies and even encourages getting as much info as possible before fighting them.

There, I mentioned gameplay, happy?
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>>377212902
>block/parry spin
Didn't think this through did ya?
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