>This is the only fighting game series that got better with

xrd added shitty mechanics, balancing issues especially with the new chars.

I wish you fags would stop pretending to play games already, even more so with fighting games

>>377156793
Xrd is as tightly balanced as the series has ever been, what the fuck are you on about?

>>377156470
>Removed Bridget
>Got better

U wot m8

>>377156470
Nobody else here actually plays Guilty Gear so I guess you win this round OP.

>>377157415
>removed Bridget
>added Sin

I can live with that.

>#Reload Eddie

nah

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>>377156470
I can't agree with your statement, OP. Across the series the balance has been a bit of a roller coaster ride. It's not terrible, but it's had its ups and downs. And frankly I'd say a bunch of things were changed for the worse when they rebooted the series with Xrd. Xrd is still an enjoyable game and one of the few ones I keep playing.

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>>377156470
i-it's bad cause I can't play mai waifu very well...

>>377156470
When is Rev2 coming to PC?

>>377158346
June 1

>>377156470
YRCs are trash

>>377158597
Perfect!

>>377156793
the new characters aren't terribly broken as they are braindead compared to old characters, even if you compare similar top tiers together.

Like Zato and Elphelt are both S tier characters with really strong setplay and unblockables but you can have a strong Elphelt in the fraction of the time it takes for you to get Zato to that level. Elphelt, Sin, and Raven are pretty cancerous but almost every character in the game can be viable if you're willing to put in the work.

>>377156793
In what way is this game so much worse than +R? Faggots like yourself have this obsession with elitist circle jerking and can't enjoy a game unless it's completely dead. Fuck off back to playing dead games on netplay then.

>>377158346
>>377158834
>>377158597
Source for anyone interested. http://www.arcsystemworks.jp/portal/post-4671/

I hope they'll keep having timely PC releases for future versions of the game.

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Post your mains

You DO actually play the game, right?

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>>377159420
BUSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>377159420
gayfag reporting in

is jam good now

>>377156470

Isuka
Overture
/thread

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NO ABA

NO BUY-A

>>377158837
hows pot in the new update. i heard he got a faster hammer fall and a reworked crouching hitbox/instance but it doesn't seen to do much for the character.

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>>377159420
I'm slowly improving.

>>377156470
What's a real god damn shame is that it didn't get a Sunday spot at EVO, and babbyblue got it.

>>377159809
He got some quality of life buffs but nothing really gamechanging. It's as you say. It's still possible to make him look good though, it's just a ton of work.

Xrd was a step down, albeit a minor one compared to a lot of other series.

Did Jam get any mote buffs for Rev 2?

>>377159420
Axl low baby. I'm trying to learn/get better with Venom and Faust, i tried Pot but it just doesn't sync with me.

>He also got 2 new air normal to cover every possible angle.

There's a new combo potential now.

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bring back ghosty mcaussie

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>>377159420
>my main has being nerf-bullied into oblivion

Keep it up, dreamboy. I will always be wih you.

>>377159721
Fuck you isuka was great. Having to manually face the other direction was revolutionary.

>>377157893
What was wrong with #Reload Eddie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eyJUceGZJg :^)

>>377159958
still an uphill climb in most matchups due to his terrible movement options and massive hurtbox but he's better in REV2 than XRD, that's for sure.

He has some touch of death combos on some characters and some get touched, get stunned on others, if you have the meter and execution for it but you still have to make every hit count because you might not get another chance.

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>>377159420
Likely picking up Baiken when Rev2 hits since Ky has gotten pretty boring. Though from just fooling around with the demo her routes and new specials don't really feel as fun as they were in +R so if she doesn't excite me enough I don't know who I'll end up playing.

>>377160613
>but you still have to make every hit count because you might not get another chance.

But that's exactly the problem with pot, he has to do a lot of work to get damage while other characters can get the same same or more safely.

Shit, even trying to watch tournament players playing pot is fucking suffering.

>>377161046
You should give answer a try, his mind games with the scrolls are actually really good and he also has a counter he can do while in or out of the scrolls.

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>>377159420
SUUURRREIIYAAAAAAAAA

post big damage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZLGnPKo-R4

>>377161158
That's the tradeoff, you have insanely damaging normals and huge stun combos with Potemkin but you'll always have to slog through his terrible movement speed and relatively sluggish normals by playing almost perfect defense.

I love watching FAB though, easily my favorite pro player from any game. He does WORK with Potemkin.

>>377161541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7qcNKcCzmg&t=1h2m45s

>>377161398
Someone give me a rundown on Dandyism

>>377161619
>That's the tradeoff
Yeah, but it is not a trade off that work in his favor due to relying too much in reads and defense while other characters can do the same thing with little effort.

I'm not saying pot is bad, although i think he is the worst character in the game, i just think the top tiers shit on him way too easily.

>>377161947
I agree for the most part, he has to put in a lot more effort to win against most of the top end of the cast and his damage doesn't outweigh his shit movement and reliance on defense without any real reversal.

>>377162064
i honestly think one reversal could do the trick.

>>377161541
https://clips.twitch.
tv/ModernChillyShallotNerfBlueBlaster

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>>377156470
It's had it's ups and downs over the years with balance (Sol main since Missing Link), but it always stays consistent with itself, save a few poorly executed spinoffs. To this day it's the only series (fighting game or otherwise) I have left that didn't cash in against fans for normalfag brand, mass appeal funbux.

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>>377159420
Sad soldier since 1999 reporting in.

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>>377159721
Isuka was misguided, but also had some of the best stage art in the series, and arguably the best OST. It's also where ABA got her start, and Judgement fixes what Boost Mode couldn't do.
Overture is a decent RTS, albeit not what anyone wanted.
Also don't "/thread" your own post. It makes you look like a newfag.

>tfw main Sin
Still dumb as ever but whatever. His new combo routes using air beak driver loops is fun.

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>>377159420
I play best girl Jam currently. But chances are I'm going to be an Answer main now.

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>>377159420
my glass cannon ninja chipp zanuff.
I'm not good at him at all, but I need the speed.

I kinda wanna pick it up on PC but I'm not sure if I should just wait for R2 to drop.

>>377163307
It might be cheaper but we don't really know at this point. It's only about 2 weeks away anyways though.

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He'll eventually be in Rev2 right?

>>377163713
if he appears in the story mode he will probably be in the game at some point.

>>377163713
He make a small cameo in Baiken story.

>>377156470
Overture was the peak you fools
>>377159420
Bedman but hopefully Asuka someday

So isn't the update suppose to be today?

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>>377164458
Next week I think

>>377156470
Melty blood also got better with each installment

>>377159420
Been mainless since Xrd because no A.B.A., so I've been fluctuating between Jam, Ram and Chipp.

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Xrd is not free from issues. The RC slowdown still eats inputs and some of the new characters are stupidly easy and strong. I don't even know what they were thinking sometimes, and also >>377159721
Xrd is pretty damn good but Isuka was an abomination.


>>377159420
Fellow May player here. I also used to play Bridget.

>>377159726
I want to see her made in the Xrd style so badly. Se'd look amazing.

>>377163713
It's rather likely.

As a meleefag should i get into GG or SFV?

>>377165558
GG since you are probably into having lots of movement options

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>>377164898
Xrd doesn't have enough redheads.

>>377165558
GG, execution barrier is higher and allows for some really weird and interesting combos that work and there's more movement options which also ties into the weird/interesting combos and execution, which I assume a melee player loves. That and everything is an actually intended gameplay mechanic so you don't have to get stuck in playing a busted game with unintentional mechanics that the developers changed in all future installments

>>377165558
GG is the better game but sf5 has more people playing it.

you pick.

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>>377159420
>>377160063
Only 1 Venom in this thread? Where are all the faggots?

>>377165558
As an SF5 player, I would say try GG if you want an actual enjoyable experience. Once you realize how shallow the game is, SFV is only fun when you're winning and there's no personality when two different people play the same character (you know what I mean if you watch SSB4 high level play).

If you want to play SF, just play an older version for fun on fightcade.

Who should I play if I want to play mind games with the opppnent?

>>377156470
Danger Time, YRC, Sin, etc.

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>>377166475
What's wrong with your face?

>>377159721
Dust Strikers.

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>>377159420
Yeah yeah hate me all you want

>>377166707
Potemkin, are you gonna Hammerfall Break and Pot Buster or are you gonna Hammerfall Break and sweep or are you gonna Hammerfall Break and Hammerfall or are you gonna Hammerfall or are you gonna Hammerfall Break and Heat Knuckle?

>>377165558
GG is universally the better game but SFV has more players online.

>>377166086
It also lacks her risk/reward style. Taking a shot of blood and recovering 75% was the greatest feeling.

>>377156470
>Johnny got his meterless unblockables back
>Raven can one-hit-kill Dizzy off a lvl 3 CH tk scratch
>Chipp can spam his gamma blade, trade, and still win the trade since the projectile comes out SUPER fast
>Elphelt still has her unblockables, and has to YRC it, making the escape even harder. Not to mention her 6P gained invuls
>Millia does Sol damage now
>Sin remains Sin
>Bedman is even more a Marvel character now. He gets a knockdown, there's no fucking way you ever get up again
>Faust's golden hammer does as much stun as Potemkin's Gigantor, and his new meteor will basically make you take 200 damage if you get caught by it
>Kum now has the shishinken loops and 2K2H, giving him the possibility to deal basically AT LEAST 250 damage meterless, whenever you are on the screen
>Axl gained two moves that will basically be his new neutral summarized. Nothing can contest IADB j.6K, and j.2S is even harder to anti-air than Chipp's j.D
>Potemkin and Slayer still the same garbage
>Leo has even be nerfed with added hurtbox on his 5H, and changed his 6P to be the worst in the game : shit hitbox, not armor from frame 1, not gatlings or jump cancels anymore
Oh yeah, I'm so fucking glad Rev 2 is a thing now. They managed to buff top tiers, nerf some lower tiers and add some of the most stupid shit I've ever seen in this serie.
Fuck you Pachi, fuck you Ishiwatari. You guys don't have a single idea on how to balance your kusoge

>>377166707
Axl
trust me

>>377166707
faust has one of my favorite mind games where you either

jump FDC air attack for a quick overhead
or
jump empty j2k into 2k for a low that looks just like the overhead.

also his whole neutral game is a mindgame of "am i gonna stick out my halfscreen normals or wait for you to do something dumb"

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>>377167171
>Bedman is even more a Marvel character now. He gets a knockdown, there's no fucking way you ever get up again
I miss his old move honestly

how long until Sin gets a gamma ray?

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>>377167587
When his mommy un-nerfs him. She got pretty mad when she heard what he did to Uncle Johnny at both EVO and Fighting Game Awards in 2016.

>>377166475
>>377166475
probably because venom is fucking hard, i still don't know his ball setups so i just play him like faust, i press 2 buttons whenever i want to set up balls and i work my way from there, my setups are always random.

Is Ram still as bad as she was in Rev 1? All I remember back then was that she had almost all bad matchups and her neutral was booty.

Dangertime needs to go, everything else is fine.

Just wish roster was a bit more diverse.

>>377168214
Her neutral game is still shit but she can corner carry off of anything and her corner game is still stupidly strong.

>>377167735
>Sin
>nerfed
>still shits damage and converts off of fucking anything while pressuring from full-screen

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>>377162636
Waiting to die since 1998

>>377167171
Fuck Leo.

>everyone ignores the comment about shitty mechanics which really makes the game bad

>>377159113
+R was a fun and better game, people actually enjoyed playing it, unlike xrd which is a fucking chore to most people besides a few autist like fab. Us elitest know what good games are and actually play them, too bad xrd players don't even play this shit. Really makes you think

>>377169747
enjoy your zappa

>>377169868
DELETE THIS!

>>377159113
XX is a different series than Xrd. So OP is tehcnically right.

I couldn't get into Xrd but I ended up really enjoying BB.

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>>377169747
Don't suppose you or anyone else here know where the rest of these videos are?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmlAqWEwewA&t=151s

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>>377168971
Japanese player, or imported? Missing Link didn't get ported to NA until 1999. Either way, nice to meet another lonely guy here.

>>377170386
try combovid.com/ or nico

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>>377170170
Well Blazblue has these 5 cute girls. can't say I blame ya

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>Xrd better than AC+R

>>377168882

Actually he's very hunger meter dependent now. They nerfed his damage and his midscreen hawk baker corner carries does significantly lesser than before. His corner j.K loops don't work anymore since wallstick is gone from his j.K so he has no efficient combo route to end safely with eat if youre lacking in calories. He's strong yes, but he's clearly not as good as before. Im surprised that no one is crying more about Raven since he got pushed so hard this patch.

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>>377170386
Whoops, if anyone cares, MarkoftheGear has them, titled ""Phantasm Infinity". Recommended videos was actual useful.

Still, anyone have that Order-Sol combo video using the song The Cage by Sonata Artica?

>>377170721
None of those girls are as cute as Bullet though.

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>>377170721
>Not including the cutest girl

>>377170794
>Actually he's very hunger meter dependent now
As long as Sin can special cancel into eating the hunger meter might as well not fucking exist, Sin plays like a fucking Skullgirl character were you can cancel everything into anything.

>>377170794
As a may main, i couldn't give 2 shits about the raven buffs since they nerfed his ability to convert off of anti airs. Now jumping in on him is a lot less risky.

>>377170984
sin used to have to choose between eating and doing a safe jump to get his best mixups. now he has far less opportunities for safe jumps since air beak no longer knocks down and his combos take more calories in general. he's still strong but he doesn't break the game.

>>377170984

>Elk hunt>Beak Driver>Elk Hunt>Beak Driver gets blocked
>You're now a sitting duck into hunger state

Your options are now to YRC eat from halfscreen, score a knockdown via 2D which your opponent will sniff from a mile, or a throw. People really overexaggerate Sin, he's clearly strong, but not strong enough this patch. I despise Johnny and Raven more since they have the damage and the meterless setups to back them up.

>>377170170
It's interesting how the divide between BB and GG keeps growing. Like GG still maintains the footsie and fundamentals but BB is more non-stop offense and who can out gimmick who. I don't mean gimmick in a bad way, there's some serious bullshit you can put someone through in that game. But there's some serious bullshit you can put someone through in this game too. All in all my opinion on these two changes with the seasons.

>>377171393
>Do retarded blockstring
>Get punished
Wow

>>377171527

>argument was about cancelling mindlessly
>give a mindless example
>gets upset

Ok

>Planned on getting Rev 2 off the PS store
>suddenly the page for Rev 2 on PS store disappears
>Now I realize there might not be a digital version
>still can't find a good place to catch up on the lore and read the backstories of everyone

Help

>>377171691
there will definitely be a digital version

>>377171691
There will be a digital version, todays uodate was to prepare the game for rev2 dlc. Check the update history of the game.

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>>377157415
>bridgetfaggot

you literally do not play the game memer.

I want more Overture characters in Xrd just so we can get their themes in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H231LTJpt64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAHkQgWKsgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbu0a7oa8Q4

>>377159420

I play Ky because I'm a baby, trying to gitgud and play Answer when rev2 comes out

>>377171305

The go to ender for air strings is now j.D, which is very hunger efficient. That said, was air beak driver ever used as a safe jump option? I always assumed its leap j.S thats used

>>377172029
I play Ky too. But that's mostly because I'm a sucker for the knight of justice thing

>>377172173

He's too textbook to me, nothing about him really appeals to me

>>377171839
>todays update was to prepare for the game for the rev 2 dlc
I don't have the original Rev, which is why i'm worried that there won't be a digital version of thd game that isn't the dlc.

>>377171656
Instead you do elk hunt>hawk baker>beak driver>eat and be super safe.

Sin is braindead, I don't even understand how people try to claim otherwise.

No Robo
No buy

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>>377172173
Heh. You're such a boyscout.

>>377172068
I meant air beak driver would knock down giving you the opportunity to do a safe jump with leap jS. And the jD ender is ok but you lose out on a lot of damage by going for it, and it isn't a very good knockdown.

I don't main sin though i am talking out my ass a bit

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>>377172458
After Izuna and Paradigm.

>>377171416
If there's one thing I hate about BB, Arakune embodies it. Such a lame character, mechanically and visually.

Also, regarding BB/GG/P4A, I hate the high mobility+mixup archetype they have (ex. Valk/Millia/Aigis). I feel these type of characters accentuates the best offense options given in an Arc game. Being put on guard is naturally harder than going on the offense, and coupled with their mobility options, it's a nightmare to fight back.

>>377172573
>Such a lame character, mechanically and visually.
>One of the few characters that take a grain of brain power to use in BB
>Lame
Says more about you than anything else anon. He's really easy in CF though I'll grant you that.

>>377156470
It gets less and less players from every update and you need to pay for them. It's shit model.

>>377172573
Characters like Arakune, Milia, etc are the reason why I hate and love Arc at the same time. Arc makes some oddball characters, no one will argue against that. The problem is that sometimes there characters are so odd that it requires an entirely new way of thinking just to fight that one specific character. So Milia knocked you down and puts Tandem Top over your head. So will you get hit high, low, left, or right? The answer is yes. Same deal for Arakune. He runs away all match trying to curse you and you have to chase him down before he gets what he wants. Curse meter full? Well you can get fucked for 10 seconds unless you get lucky. But at the same time despite how much I want to throw my controller from shit like this, it's part of the reason why I like these games.

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>>377172756

when's kliff and justice?

>>377173431
boss characters never

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>>377173431
I'm hoping all the dead/past characters come together so we can get Justice, Kliff, HOS and maybe Valentine.

>>377173591
>kliff
>boss

dur huuuuuuuuuuuur

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>>377171908
>After Bridget: "W-Where's Zappa?"
>After Zappa: "W-Where's Robo-Ky?"
>After Robo-Ky: "W-Where's Testament? I played him, h-honest!"

>>377170984
>As long as Sin can special cancel into eating the hunger meter might as well not fucking exist
except now in order to actually do damage sin has to spend a ton of meter and put himself in a less than ideal spot to eat afterwards because they changed how his jump k works

>>377168991
I bet you play Zato

>>377173902
Kill me pete

>>377156793
yrc >>> frc, especially now that they've tweaked the more stupid parts of it

also no xrd game has balance as bad as literally every X2 game, which has a ton of characters like slash ky, AC zato, +R zappa or #R that just completely take a dump on half the roster for free if you're even semi competent in playing them

>>377173902
Kill me, Pete.

>>377173902
I'm not gonna lie, Anji is the only character I don't care if he comes back or not

>>377167491
Huh? What fucking mind-games can you do with Axl?

>>377159721
isuka and overture were games literally ahead of their time

if they were released more recently and thus technology and more importantly the mindset of gamers was at a place to accept it, they would be well regarded

>>377173902
I just want the full cast back minus Bridget because he's a shit meme character no one plays outside of literally 2 people worldwide and is only there for homosexual pedophiles to jack off to gayshit doujins.

Order Sol I don't care to see back since we have a Sol already and we don't need this shit to be SF with good/evil/eviler/violent versions of all the "shotos".

>>377173902
Give me ABA or give me death.
>Spend years learning her
>Fucking Izuna got more votes than her
Kill me Pete

>>377174036
yrc is shitty in every single way possible, there is nothing good about it

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>>377174152
Seeing the concept art for generics in GG Vastedge makes me wish they made it a beat em up. Imagine a newer version of GG Judgement with more experience, a bigger budget, and not exclusive to a handheld console.

>>377174131
https://twitter.com/simo_niki/status/843281014193508352

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>>377174428
This is also the Nekomata design from Izuna's tribe in GG2: Overture, which also had some great generic designs playable Convict Hammer and Queen added as an IK for Sol, when?

>>377174252
But Order-Sol is the better Sol

>>377174407
I like YRC. Maybe cut down the freeze time, but being able to cancel out of anything is fun.

>>377174582
it's not fun it's just stupid, and being able to do whatever is retarded, frc exist for a reason, yrc is full retard

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>>377174252
I look at it this way, if Bridget gets in I won't have to hear "When muh Birdget anymore".

>>377174319
If Daisuke keeps his wish we'll get her eventually.
Don't be hating on Izuna though.

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>>377174450

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>>377174578
Gonna post some Vastedge concept art now. This is the Senate Soldier.
3/?

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>>377159420
I ride this long dusty road of my own choosing

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>tfw Millia
Why would they honestly keep a character around that wins near automatically as soon as she knocks you down?

>>377172452

Why put in the hawk baker? Will that change anything? I understand if it was back in sign when a blocked elk hunt is a scary frame trap since its +2. And does the BD constitute a large enough gap when blocked that you can cancel to eat? I can imagine doing a scummy trillion stabs as a gimmick, but I think most characters can check you with f.S or 2S with that.

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>>377174815
Bounty Hunter (Rifleman)
4/?

>>377171908
SUP /R/KAPPA1 WANT SOME THICC ASAINS!?!? XD

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>>377174847
It used to be worse.

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>>377174450
The Benten clutch

>>377174648
My only gripe is the time freeze because I want everything to flow fast and not hint my opponent that I'm going to do something.

Granted, Arc has balanced the game around the different RC's, because I haven't seen any unwanted bullshit.

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>>377174926
Senate "War Animal" Gear
5/?

>>377174407
>>377174648
frc was a garbage mechanic that made every single other use of meter besides FRC pointless because it was too damn strong. it was a mechanic that multi purpose made your neutral/combos/hitconfirms way better for only 25% meter, that's stupid as fuck and you only disagree because it's been around for so long

yrc, especially the tweaked yrc in rev/rev 2, is a mechanic that has more dynamic use in neutral but ONLY works in neutral. there's no more order sol doing his DP for free because he can just FRC the charge followup and make it safe or other degenerate shit like that

>>377174987
>no argument

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>>377175041
Bounty Hunter (Heavy Armor)
6/?

>>377174847
>game with over a half dozen separate strong ways to get out of oki and blockstrings
>people still complain about millia

loling @ u tbqh

>>377173902
Zappafags and robo-kyfags aren't as cancerous or whiny.

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>>377175143
Bounty Hunter (Mage)
That's all the generics. Gonna post some OVerture art if Capitcha behaves a bit longer.
7/7

>>377173902

I'll buy it when Anji is in

>>377175052
here, for a great example of why FRC is stupid and needs to die please watch this webm on loop >>377174994

you simply can't do stupid shit like that in xrd without a way bigger meter investment, and there's a million cases between all the XX games of stuff that stupid. 25 meter is simply not enough of an investment for how strong FRC is

one thing I didn't mention in my last post is that YRC is also more balanced in the sense that it effects every character equally. in previous games some characters had stupid good FRC points but others had mediocre ones and it made the balance even more fucked up (like say, AC slayer being able to FRC his super and 100% you off a reversal)

>>377173902
there's a huge huge difference here.

Zappa/Robo-Ky/Testament players exist.

Bridget players are a myth.

>>377175069
You don't need arguments for Reddit

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>>377174578
I love the designs of Izuna's tribe.

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Posting servant artwork from Overture now. First up, Sol's tribe.
Drill
1/9

>>377156470
Rev2 for PS4 and PS3.

But not PC?

JUST

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>>377159420
Faust. I also play Slayer, Millia, and Elphelt.

>>377174252
>"Order Sol is just a evil Sol" meme again

I'm convinced people who say this shit didn't play the character to actually believe OS is anything like Evil Ryu

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>>377175598
"Pencil Guy" Rifle Unit
2/9

>>377175634
Are you being dumb on purpose? The PC version comes out on June 1st.

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>>377175782
"Blade" Armored Melee Unit
3/9

>>377175770
>meme

stay unga bunga solfag

>>377156470
I have been messing around in the rev2 demo after a friend told me i should get into it. Never having played GG I kind of like Sin, Answer, and Baiken. I also messed around with Chipp and Faust and they seem pretty cool as well. I still need to get all the terms down but im loving how all the models look like sprites but the camera can still shift around.

>>377175346
I would honestly prefer if they brought back FRCs and made them cost 50 meter due to the fact they opened up more unique applications than YRC and didn't slow the game down, which is the main reason I think YRCs are bad.
'
Also YRCs definitely benefit some characters a whole lot more than others, Venom for example gets massive advantage off YRCing for pressure.

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>>377175873
Fuck, I pushed Capitcha too far. If you can get past the panda, here's the full art book for GG2: Overture. It has designs for Hunchback and Valentine's "Cherry" suicide bombers. I don't know if their art can be found elsewhere.
https://exhentai.org/g/409042/87a30593cf/
Also here's Sol's highest ranked unit: Queen.

>>377175921
Fuck off, parrot.

>>377176085
Don't stop friend I'm only here for that sweet sweet art, but can't check link right now.

>>377167171
>being this mad that your unga character got nerfed to shit
here's a fun fact

n o b o d y

liked fighting leo

leo players didn't even like fighting leo.

pick a new character and use your brain.

>>377175961
>I would honestly prefer if they brought back FRCs and made them cost 50 meter
But then they would be literally the exact same as RC, except that you can do them on whiff with specific moves. That's the worst of both worlds

complaining about YRC slowdown is silly when that's just xrd RC in general. they finally fixed the weird dropping inputs stuff so a half second is fine imo.

>Also YRCs definitely benefit some characters a whole lot more than others,
Sure, but that's a consequence of any universal mechanic. It's miles better than FRC in this aspect

>>377176195
>mash mash mash

nah

>>377176085
Thanks for sharing Anon.

>>377165815
>>377166132
>>377166149
>>377166638
>>377167109
are there any recommended beginner characters in GG or can I get away with picking just based on appearance/design?

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Anyone wished Sol players use Dragon Install more?

Kusoru best Sol player.

>>377176085
Thanks for the dump mate. Daisuke has a great sense of visuals.

>>377167171
"They managed to buff top tiers" he says as he lists haf the fucking roster and characters like kum

i'm sorry that the three most braindead online tactic characters in the game didn't get buffed as heavily as you wanted

>>377176342

Sol, Ky, Faust, Sin, Elphelt

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>>377176208
Just for you I'll try to keep going. I'll focus on artwork that I couldn't find on non-sad panda links.
1/? Sol's Masterghost

>>377176085
So did Sol build all these machines himself? I know he's quite the inventor

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>>377176460
2/? Sin's Masterghost

>>377176342
I guess soul and ky kiske are the easier ones.

Just play the tutorial, than pick one of the two and play some of the single payer modes so you get used with characters and them you try the other characters, that's what i did. One of them is bound to sync with you when you spend some time in practice and doing the combo challenges.

>>377176342
as long as you don't pick zato you can probably make it work, but the general simple/beginner friendly characters are sol, ky faust and may. everyone else is either decently execution demanding, requires you to play a somewhat non-standard game and thus might not be the best way to learn guilty gear as a whole, or both

really just pick whoever you enjoy playing and go through the lengthy tutorial modes whenever you feel like you've hit a wall somewhere and you'll do fine. you can get by in guilty gear at low/mid levels without any combos at all beyond the most basic chains

>>377176219
Does anybody like fighting Axl? I don't like fighting Axl as Axl.

>>377176342
Don't pick Zato, Venom, Johnny, Potemkin, or Jack-O and you should be good, they need more effort to do their thing and usually require learning a mechanic only they use.

>>377176342
you can pretty much pick whoever you want but I would recommend staying away from overly difficult characters like zato, johnny, and chipp, or really non-standard characters like jack-o.

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>>377156470
I just did.

>>377176683
jack-O is a character literally designed for low execution babbies

>>377176402
I feel cheap using dragon install

>>377176545
Thanks kindly anon I'm really digging the art style, it'll influence me today.

>>377176783
4, and 6 are both fucking terrible.

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>>377176483
Part of GG2's plot is that Sol gets the ability to summon guardian spirits from his soul in some kind of advanced summoning magic. Valentine has this too. Sin and Ky have backup from the Illyrian Army, Dr. Paradigm has non-humanoid Gear refugees, and Izuna's youkai buddies help him out. Jack-O's servants are an in universe example of this same concept, also the Motorcycle Sol summons in Revelator is an advanced version of one of his mobile units; Fire Wheel Mk. I
3/? Izuna's Masterghost

>>377176862
Better than your weeb trash.
tbf, 4 was indeed bad

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>>377176864
4/? Paradigm's Masterghost

>>377176798
she is still not a good character to learn the game on.

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>>377176798
>Tfw watching my friends play Jack-O vs Zato matches.

>>377176798
Yeah but he is asking for a good beginner character which Jack-O is not due to playing pretty differently and giving some bad habits. I imagine he will want to change characters after getting used to the game.

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>>377176963
5/? Valentine's Masterghost

>>377176946
>tekken
>not weeb trash

Xiaoyu
Panda
Kuma
DBZ tier Jin/Kasuya/Heihachi
Lucky Chloe
Alisa
Lars
Yoshifuckingmitsu
the Jacks

need I go on retard? You're as dumb as SFfags claiming SF isn't anime/weebshit.

fucking dumbass

Rival Schools

>>377164898
I'm increasingly convinced that RC slowdown was made to fuck with the other player.

>>377176237
Is using YRC on neutral useful if you don't have projectiles on screen.

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>>377177056
6/? Here are some unused Valentine designs. Also I forgot to mention that Sin and Ky have the same Masterghost. Raven shares a tribe and Masterghost with Valentine.

>>377177241
If you don't want to get punished or see an opening that can get you the win you should use it in neutral.

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>>377177308
7/? Tengu from Izuna's tribe

>>377176864
Interesting. I'll have to play Overture myself sometime. I do love the art design from what I've seen and it's why Daisuke is one of my favorites.

>>377176445
>>377176552
>>377176564
>>377176683
>>377176708
well I was gonna pick Baiken or Axl but I guess I'll add Ky, Elphelt and Sol to list

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>>377176864
>>377176963
>Ishi put all this work into Overture, hoping it'd be action-adventure he dreamed the series would be
>it failed
>tfw he had to go back to making GG a fighting games series

>>377159420
I've never played the game or learned much about it at all and I'm shit at fightan but I'm tempted to get this just because of how amazing and flashy the visuals are.

>>377177436

>Baiken or Axel

How can you have such good and bad taste at the same time?

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>>377174450
Goddamn it Yosuke

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>>377177414
8/? Fenrir, Paradigm's mid tier mobile soldier.

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>gets better with every installment
>its best entry is over a decade old
I love casual shitters

>>377176783
>garbage wubstep/D&B music starting with tag 2/7
>exact same animations and models since tekken 5 over a decade ago, just with more bloom
>customization still looks like a korean MMO with items just sort of hovering around your character and in general looking terrible

>>377172458
Robo had a big enough role in the Rev story that he's probably going to be the very next character. Similarly, Zappa, but they'll have to make him get his ghosts again unless they want to make him basically a brand new character. Other characters like A.B.A. have it worse since they're completely MIA.

>>377177479
all overture needed was to be released later

it's actually a really dynamic and interesting competitive game, but console online was simply not there in 2007 and so everyone just played the crappy single player and hated it

>>377177479
I wish he would get a chance to try again at a GG action game but since Overture failed it probably won't happen. a shame.

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>>377159420
>>377166475
Right here

>>377177479
Overture was very flawed but I think they should give the idea a second more refined try.

>>377177673
I release on modern consoles would be nice

>>377177595
This, Robo-Ky is pretty much a lock for the next edition of the game. He arguably did the most out of Baiken, Answer, RK, and Zappa.

Anji is in Baiken's story too so I'd say he's not too far off either.

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>>377177426
The PC port is pretty bare bones, but probably the definitive version compared to the Xbox version. Might be worth a try, it's not a bad RTS and it was actually my entry into the genre.
>>377177479
Well it was more a compromise because it was made out of what they could get from Sega, halfway through the eight year limbo the series was put into. I think GG should always be a fighting game first and foremost, but I wouldn't mind another crack at an Overture like RTS, especially if it was a prequel during the Crusades.
9/? various concepts for an upgraded Fireseal.

>>377158597
Same day Tekken 7 drops. So glad I stopped being a NEET.

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>>377177543
>Wolf that combs his pompdur
If Paradigm ever becomes playable can he please fight by summoning his tribe?

>>377177508
which ones the bad taste

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>>377177491
be prepared to lose a lot but if you put in the effort (and a shitload of time) to understand the game it is really worth it. if that sounds appealing at all then go for it.

>>377177890
overture is not an RTS. it's DOTA or dynasty warriors with actual depth to the hero v hero combat and you also get to lead the units yourself

it leads to crazy ass metagame ideas that no other game has, like intentionally using the fact that you're being comboed by the other player to lead your units and build things (with the risk that the other player intentionally resets you while you're busy looking at the menu)

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>>377159420
I almost never use this super though

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>>377177985

The one that isn't a bad ass one eye'd angry woman

>>377177781
>Re-release*

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>>377177954
It's funny, because of the green color scheme on Fenrir, I used to think it was a really obscure crack at the Manga GGXtra. The OCDONUTSTEEL Tyr had a transformation called "Fenrir Install" and had big, poofy green hair.
10/? Sin Artbook Bonus

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>>377178081
>Calling Axl the bad taste choice.

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>>377159420
Sol & Jam

<<< Can't seem to get good with my waifu, though.

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>>377178003
You're right on this. I played it more like an RTS because I mained Valentine, and she has the most reliance on her servants. But yeah, it's some kind of Musou/DMC-lite crossed with basic RTS elements. I never thought I'd meet someone else who actually played it long enough to realize how deep the mechanics get.
11/11 Valentine Bonus Art
Gonna leave the link again for the GG2 artbook so anyone who can get past the panda can look at it later.

>>377178323

Axl as a character I like, but I don't like his dumb shorts, I hate Axl Rose and I hate keepaway style characters

>>377178020
i use this super all the fucking time, it is not that bad, i honestly avoid using the other one way more because i don't know on what to use it.

>>377178492
my main issue w/ overture is that raven is really stupidly good and has no flaws. he's got valentines great units except he's actually good in melee, has teleport gimmicks (personal favorite was ending a combo that knocks down with teleport -> drop a banana for an unblockable reset) and his projectiles are pretty good too

>>377177508
Axl is actually not that hard. After you know in which situation to use every normal you can get some combos going from the distance.

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>>377178492
Fuck, forgot to put the link in the post.
https://exhentai.org/g/409042/87a30593cf/
It's been fun anons, this was a good thread.

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>>377167171
>Millia does Sol damage
and lost any of her air knockdown without Pin so she can't tandem engine your shit again.
>Axl IADB j6k, j2s hard to anti air
the fuck are you doing that high at that angle if he can contest with 2S? j2s hard to aa and doesnt get any combo without meter like most of his overheads, not making it any stronger for his mix up game
>slayer garbage damage
>getting CH state off of bite for next special means nothing for a casual who doesnt play him
>Kum now has the shishinken loops
he had before and it was fucking impossible to get consistent, why can't a fat comboable character get fat damage?
>Leo nerfed
fucking good, no one likes him

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>>377178687
Thanks for the art.

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>>377176812
>>377176812
I only know one JP player who (in)frequently uses it, and that's Maruhan. The top Sol players never use it.

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>>377178567
I'd rather use that meter for DAA or DP RC.

Also Rev 2 gives Shark Strike a ton more use for combos. Right now Rev 1 lets you do weird shit with it in the corner or a conversion off of 5p

>>377178961
Why did Axl have to be the sad boy in Rev? He didn't deserve it

>>377178323
I thought he'd talking about her massive breasts all this time like I-No's. What the hell, Axl

> want to get into GG
> amazing visuals
> characters look interesting
> good tutorial, trials and full story mode
> but NO PLAYERS
> have to play borefighter V instead
Will this game ever see the light of day outside of japan

>>377179072
He just talks about I-No's because she takes her jacket off every time she wins. That and its basically 2 flaps of leather in the wind.

>>377176572
I like Axl vs Axl, although the guy i play can't handle sparrowhawk. Can contest mid or lingering hitbox (fix this shit already ArcSys) with 5k. worst comes to worst, just start up your sparrowhawk when he does 6th hit or cancels his stance early

>>377179072
Axl is a pure christian boy when it comes to anything but I-no's tits.

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>>377178831
It's my first time doing webms, forgive me

>>377178961
i have to learn to use shark strike, i never use it that much.

>>377159420
I haven't played much but I'm tied between Sol and Raven.

Also, what hours do people usually play online at? I haven't been able to find anybody since I've started playing.

Blazblue got better with each instalment although the character designs took a nose dive after Chrono Phantasma.

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>tfw I-NO was one of my earliest vidya faps.

So damn hot

>>377178554
at least he is not a spammer and you can actually hit the chains of his attacks, so you can counter hi from the distance if you make the read.

>>377180226

I hate chasing people around the screen, it drives me up the wall. Even if I win I don't feel satisfied or like I enjoyed the match

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>>377180195

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>>377180483

DELETE!

>>377180520
I've seen him play Answer. Has he made the switch?

>>377172573
What about Taokaka, which has amazing mobility options, but almost no real mixup potential, and instead just has frame traps and pressure for days?

I guess it was different when her midrange game was actually scary though.

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>>377180520

>>377180363
i know what you mean, i tried playing pot against characters like jhonny and got rekt, having so much work to get near them just so they can escape so easily is fucking terrible.

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>>377159420
Still going to play Slayer on the side but glad I've got her back.

So when is the steam version coming out? I thought it would come out this month?

>>377180093
there's usually at least 1 lobby at most times on east coast USA steam, and usually more on psn. nobody plays ranked. I have heard of people's internet settings keeping them from seeing other people online though, but i don't know the details on that.

>>377178719
Millia can pick up her pin mid-combo.

The main thing that's changed is that you really need to be careful about using pin in neutral. If you don't have it, you most likely don't have reliable knockdowns against half the cast.

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>>377159420

I am the worlds best Ky player and don't plan on surrendering my throne

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>>377181589
Why didn't danger time activate?

>>377181724
those are trades, not clashes

>>377180893
Huh, what happened to the moon animation on her overdrive? You got all the hits in too.

>>377181724
>>377181784
also, isn't danger time supposed to be random?

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I'm shit at fighting games, but I don't want to be shit anymore.
Should I play Ky or Slayer?

>>377181970
yes

>>377182001

Ky, Slayer will require a lot of work

>>377182001
Ky.

He is much easier.

>>377156470
AC+R

>>377182001
ky will teach you the game better

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>>377181802
Not a clue. Maybe I was slightly too far away?

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>>377182001
Rip Slayer

>>377156470
So will Get Down to Business finally be a selectable track for fights, or is ArcSys going to keep blueballing me?

>>377156470
you're wrong

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>>377156470
>Game turns into a stupid guessing game of bullshit after every knockdown
>Danger time
>Massively imbalanced moves every iteration with a well defined set of top tier bullshit
>No playerbase, which really fucking matters when all you can do is play against others.
>Every character, after about 5 minutes, runs into "oh yeah you need to execute 2 1 frame links in a row to do this core component of their gameplay"

Better with every iteration my ass, the game isn't very good.

>>377179243

Currently on the rise in Combobreaker 2017. Lots of SFV refugees flooding in. Theres no one in ranked because no one plays ranked. Instead, people play at lobbies

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>>377183820

No, there are just no players. Stop lying.

Any other game with these numbers would be considered battleborn levels of dead. To a guilty gear fan, apparently this is "fine"

>>377183948
Why are you in this thread?

>>377183948
Kill yourself GRIM-REAPAH

>>377159420
Hate me all you want, but I main Sin with a Ky on the side.

Whenever Robo Ky comes out though, I'm going straight for him.

>>377183948
To be fair, a team shooter like battleborn requires large amounts of players for each game while a fighter is just about 1 on 1 matches, so smaller overall numbers can still give a good amount of different matches. You're not wrong though, there's hardly anyone online.

>>377183948
well what the fuck, i thought the people i was playing were real

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>>377159420
>Sushi!
>Sashimi!
>BANZAI!

>>377183596
You couldn't make it more obvious that you don't play the game if you tried.

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C L A S H

>>377183596
laughingaxls.jpg

>>377183820
>Theres no one in ranked because no one plays ranked. Instead, people play at lobbies
There's also, you know, real life play, but everyone on /v/ is a fraud who doesn't actually play in tournaments so they base everything on online play.

>>377158837
Well I think they're very well aware of the skill needed inbetween top tiers like Elphelt and Zato is because they're also nerfing the shit out of characters like Elphelt or Sin while the old tops like Millia and Zato remain untouched for the most part.

In all honesty I'm fine with a character being clearly top tier if it takes a shit load of practice to be able to do the stuff that makes them top tier. I also think that the guys like Pachi as so on might feel the same. Stuff like that is why you never see Zato almost ever online despite being an extremely safe choice if you play by the tiers.

>>377156470
Look man I'll suck Guilty Gear's dick till the end of time, but even then that statement you said is false. Xrd Sign at release really was a clear downgrade from AC+R. Rev2 is getting pretty damn close to the level of AC+R was, but it's still not quite there yet. If there's a leap from Rev2 to the next Xrd being at least the same quality leap from Sign to Revelator then it'll be on the same level if not better at that point.

>>377173902
You forgot ABBA nerd
kill me pete

>>377187387
At least ABA would actually be cool to adapt into Xrd. Bridget would just appease trapfags who never actually play the game in the first place.

so what kind of characters are Elphelt and Baiken gameplay wise?

>>377188370
>Elphelt
All-around brute that has a normal mode and a sort of stance mode (where she uses a shotgun). When she is using her shotty, she has very fast normals, command roll and grab, and is quite deadly in the corner. In either mode, she has access to her Pineberry, a projectile that hits twice: once before hitting the ground, and another when it detonates. She's a threat on all ranges.

>Baiken
In this iteration, she is a offence-oriented character. Although having weak guts (defense) she has the ability to use a stance that guards attacks from opponents. This stance has dedicated followups, making attacking her a risk when going on the offensive.

However, she use to be able to guard cancel from blockstun, but now she has to time it.

Is Jack- O a good starting character or should I pick someone else?

>>377189130
>>377189130
Baiken has high guts at 4 (Only Raven has 5). What makes her take a lot of damage is her high defense modifier.
>>377189334
Jack-O is fine for a beginner, she just has a very unique playstyle.

>>377183948
yeah but it's a fighting game. You need like 1/5th the players for a game to be active compared to an FPS, since it's 1v1

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>>377189334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJUgEfbaZCA

Take a look at that and see if that entices you.

>>377189334
You won't be playing GG if you're playing jacko

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>>377189440
>exposed

fucccc

>>377189623
Cool reference, any other easter eggs?

>>377156470
I wish they would release an "extend" version like Blazblue so I don't have to buy DLC shit.

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>>377190630
I'd have to dig through some more videos. I got these clips from a youtuber named APCSGIV, who mods in little movies of him messing with the movelists of the characters.

>>377159420
I was going to say Jack-O, but I'm moving to Ky because at least I know he'll always be in any future Guily Gear.

>>377186726
>Paying a thousand dollars to attend a tournament
No fucking thank you.

>>377184668
Everything I've said is true. Especially the whole game centering around wakeup game bullshit. It's just miserable having to learn dozens and dozens of different defensive timings just to even get to participate in the coin flip wake up game. Until you've put in the stupid number of practice hours you will just die instead.

Game is terrible and deserves exactly as many players as it has. It is a niche within a niche. It doesn't have what it takes to ever be popular.

>>377189334
Jack-O is fine for a beginner, but I wouldn't recommend playing her since you won't be able to pick up GG fundamentals with her.

>when the host closes the room but doesn't announce
reeeeeeee

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>>377191678
When your fighting game has infinites, you know it's a shit game.