>Game is bad! >why? >cause it's popular

There is nothing wrong with this.

>>377143826
I remember thinking 'The last of us' was a shit game until I beat it.

I've come to realise most of /v/ has not played the games they shit on.

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>>377143826
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of The Wild

>>377143826
thats pretty much been a cardinal rule of /v/
there is no changing it it is our way of life

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>game is good!
>why
>WHO CARES? ITS GOOD, NOW BUY PREY!

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>Game is overrated
>People like it more than I think they should

>>377144003
/v/ doesnt actually play games

This works in reverse too.
Normies will ignore games that seem too complicated or nerdy.

Usually anything that require half an ounce of imagination is seen as far too nerdy.

>>377143826
>Game is good!
>Why?
>It has a high review score!
>Lots of people like it!
Guess the game

>>377143826
Dark Souls 2

>>377144396
Half-Life 2.

>>377144240
>>Usually anything that require half an ounce of imagination is seen as far too nerdy.
Damn that must explain why Minecraft is so unpopular and not the second highest selling game of all time.

>>377143826
The Witcher 3

>>377144396
Trick question.

There has never been a game that /v/ liked because it has a high review score and lots of others like it. If /v/ likes a game its for good reason. If /v/ hates a game its brainless shitposting. These are facts.

>>377143826
Undertale

>>377144490
Anon you replied to the wrong post, you were supposed to reply to this one;
>>377144396

Does this apply to BS Infinite?

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>>377144003
It fails to be a compelling stealth or TPS game and has only it's characters and plot driving it, which should be secondary in a fucking video game.

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>>377143826
>Game is great!
>why?
>cause it's popular

>>377144396
>Game I like gets good reviews
>"Holy shit! This is the best game ever! Look everyone agrees!"

>Game I dislike gets good reviews
>"Who cares about review scores anyway? They probably paid for it."

>Game I like gets bad review
>"Guess the reviewers were charging too much for scores."

>Game I dislike gets bad review
>"LOL! Look at how shit that game is!"

>>377143826
no look

in order for something to be popular it must be mainstream

in order for something to be mainsstream it must be watered down and streamlined, so all the casual fags are able to enjoy it

therefore popular = shit

if you have low standards for fun, good for you, I'm serious. But for me and the rest of /v/ it takes a bit more than that.

understandorino? goodelee doo!

>>377144724
>me and the rest of /v/
>reddit spacing
I don't think so Tim.

>>377144829
no, i'm just autistic when it comes to typing.

blame my austrian heritage

>Game is absolute shit in every aspect except one
>Faggots praise it as an absolute masterpiece
>They also call shit and unplayable much better games with less flaws

Guess the game

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>>377143826
>Game is bad!
>why?
>cause it's popular, and in most cases it means that it caters to the casual player, therefore not having any actual in-depth gameplay which the game attempts to compensate with graphics or plot in order to bedazzle your average gamer, even though gameplay - a set of explicit and implicit obligatory and optional objectives and win/lose states - is the defining feature of videogames as a medium
Sounds about right.

how do you justify playing literal casual games like overwatch?

>>377144724
Dark Souls is mainstream, and it's possibly one of the most confusing games for a newcomer. First time you play one you have no idea what every stat does

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>>377143826
>Game is good!
>Why?
>Because it's popular

>>377144915
Drakengard 1 (writing)
Metal Gear Rising (music)
Nepshit (waifus)

>>377144718
And this, laddie, is why you pick option 2 in every circumstance. If your opinion requires external validation it's too worthless to communicate anyway.

>Can't have a half-decent discussion about popular game because the fanbase is incredibly autistic and the hatebase is almost as bad if not worse
Feels bad man

>>377145053
>First time you play one you have no idea what every stat does
No retard, you just didn't notice that you can press select and get explanations for everything in the status menu.

>>377143826
>Nobody plays Bloodborne
>/v/ loves it

OPs meme checks out

>>377145163
I guess those qualify too, but I was thinking of Dragons Dogma

>>377145495
Oh. I think DD is just extremely average in pretty much every aspect and tries to do too many things.

>>377144003
For me it was the opposite. I thought it was a good game until a played it. It's shit.

>>377145053
If you want it, you can cheese the game really hard by just using a shield, overlevelling and summoning other players, which what most people do. There is no fun or challenge in that, but that's what happens. And after that comes the sense of entitlement, as if they were baptized and accepted into some sort of ebic sekrit club, by playing the game in most streamlined way possible.
I legitimately know people that were so bad they had to summon for Old Iron King.
>>377145402
It's an exclusive on a console with payed online, and even then it's not as dead as people say. There is a stream of newfags coming at a fairly limited but stable rate, while twinking at burgertown takes around 4 minutes or so to find someone to invade.

>>377144604
that's like your opinion, man

>>377143826
I have a friend like this. He implies that he's open-minded and someone who does his research, but he will always revert to this mentality. He's also the type of person that will often like or choose something JUST because it's unpopular or different, rather than because it's fun or interesting.

>>377144654
Well, I mean, its not like bad games ever become popular or anything.

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>>377143826
>Game is good!
>why?
>It sold millions of copies brah

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>>377143826
>justifiably criticize game for having numerous flaws
>you only hate it because it's popular/you hate my console brand of choice/you just don't understand it/you're not playing it correctly/you just hate video games/you're shitposting

To be honest the drones are about 1000% more annoying than any of the critics. /v/ can go overboard with hate but it's still way more honest than the people who cocksuck flawed games to death just because they're console exclusive.

>>377145648

This for BotW

>>377143826

>God
who?

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>Game is good!
>why?
>cause it's popular

test >test

>>377143826
>>Game is bad!
>>why?
>>cause it's popular
But this can be true especially in the case of multiplayer games with a lot of thing to learn, the pool of players gets diluted with people who don't know what they're doing and drag the quality of the competitiveness down by virtue of being bad, a symptom which comes with popularity

>>377144003
/v/ doesn't think it's actually terrible, just terribly overrated

>This game is shit!
>Why do you think it's shit?
>I haven't played it but the fanbase sucks!

>>377143826
Who cares? They're only hurting themselves by limiting their options. No one else gives a shit if they like it or not.

>>377146154
That's a stretch to justify being a contrarian

>I don't like game
>Why
>It's Reddit

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>>377145965
>you can't judge it if you haven't played it!
>play it
>you can't judge it if you haven't gotten to X part/don't have X hours
>play it more
>LMAO IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT WHY PLAY SO MUCH HUH

>>377146384

>complete the game
>>377145783

>>377145145
>game is bad
>why?
>because its popular

>>377143826
>be OP
>get mad at people telling me why my favourite game is objectively bad
>make a thread strawmanning the fuck out of BTFOing me

>>377146671
>""""""""objective"""""""""

why do /v/irgings think their opinion is the objective truth 100% of the time? you dont see this shit on other boards.

>>377146671
>Be a poster on 4chan
>Hate all video games
>Still go on the video game board to post about how much I hate video games
>I love my life

>>377144604
The multiplayer is where its at fagtron. Yeah, the ai is shit compared to early sneak peeks, where they would actually cower if they were unarmed vs your gun, they would not rush you head on to get mowed down like idiots, they would more agressively pin and flank, they were smarter.
But the multiplayer is fuckin good and should stand seperate from the movie-game controversy shit.

>>377143915
(You)

>>377143826
>criticism isn't valid!
>why?
>cause its popular

Fuck off

>this game is good
>why?
>its comfy

>>377146770
underage/summer/twitch kid usage of the word. Same demographic that doesn't know what "literally" means and says things like "kys" and "kek".

>>377146912

>game has flaws
>n-no the game is perfect! just play multiplayer!

>>377146671
if you think you know the objective truth about everything why even bother having discussions? you already know everything.

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>>377146808
It's so sad that nu-/v/ still thinks this is how we work here.

>>377146770
because when people tell you why a games gameplay/story/whatever is bad and deliver actual arguments people tend to get butthurt and spout memes or completely ignore those arguments

increasingly less people are willing to actually explain why a specific gameplay mechanic is bad, because the gen-Z shitters are now here in full force, disregarding every actual discussion about gameplay, because they can't bear it when their childhood memories get tainted by simple facts

>>377144915
Skyrim

>>377146912
I don't disagree, but at the sametime the rave reviews were mostly on the merits of the campaign, which I disagree with.

>>377145005
It's fun with friends.

Anything's fun with friends.

>>377143826
>most pop-culture is bland garbage
>thing is popular
>it is most likely bland and/or garbage
Why is this so hard for you to understand?

>>377147202
a lot of people see the flaws of the game but not being perfect doesnt stop them from enjoying it. this cynical know everything attitude is annoying, youre not intelligent, youre just just annoying. not just in real life, even here.
shitting on everything is the easiest thing in the world

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>>377143826
>game is bad
>its popular
>why

>game is popular
>can't dislike or criticise it at all without being labeled a contrarian faggot
I hate how big and popular this industry has gotten.

>list a massive list of things I didn't enjoy about (game)
>provide arguments and reasoning for each one
>nu uuh none of that matters and I wont argue because you're only doing that to be contrarian lmaoo!

People like you are whats the real problem with /v/. Any time, anyplace, anywhere actual discussion and actual criticism is taking place, one of you retarded cunts births himself into the thread and starts blabbing on about contrarians and people just "hating" things because
>thats what /vee/ does lmaoo

Fuck off.

>>377146770
Because gamers are extremely opinionated, their word is law.

>>377146808
if i hated all video games, i wouldn't go on a board about video games, i'd just say "this is a shit hobby" and go somewhere else
the reason i stay here and shit on whatever game you think is gotyay 10/10 ign is because it and other games like it are low quality low effort trash with more marketing budget than gameplay budget, or whatever indie walking simulator happens to be getting shoved down our throat by a bunch of hipster journalists sleeping with each other. it's garbage like this that drags down a hobby that i love very much and am very passionate about, to the point where it causes me emotional distress when it's dragged down by garbage like that.

>>377147524
>you think youre having fun but you actually dont
>youre having the wrong kind of fun

>>377143826
>Say game is bad
>Make a list of reasons why I think it's bad
>Faggotron tells me I dislike it because it's popular
Why do people with no standards think they're ever relevant?

>>377147639
You can enjoy McDonalds, doesn't make it good food.

>>377147495
>>377147501
>>377147159
>>377145965
>>377145935


Holy shit this, it's the stupidest thing to see make a thread over people making arguments you don't like. >>377146671 is probably correct, there's no other excuse as to why you made a thread about criticism you don't like.

>>377143826
>game is bad!
>why?
>cause it's popular
>because the mass usually has shit taste; see modern pop
>HA YOU JUST DONT LIKE ITS CUS ITS POOPULAAR
>no I dislike it because its shit the fact that normos like it makes it worse

>>377143826
It's called /v/ get used to it.

>>377147790
video games are form of entertainment. the end goal is to have fun

>>377147524
Why? can you state reasons on why they're low quality low effort trash? do you measure the man-hours they spend doing them? do you care about the nooks and crannies of the game or do you simply hate everything that a certain studio puts out because it's "/v/ as fuck xD"?
Your use of buzzwords to refer to the AAA video game industry indicate me it's the latter, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, why are those games low quality low effort trash? what makes them that?
The media you adore is thriving and you throw a shit fit because of the people that make the games who have no relevance in the objects they create? I doubt that you love video games, I think you're a child raised by /v/ trying to fit in by throwing around buzzwords you see others using.

When will people understand that liking something doesn't make it good, and something doesn't have to be good for you to like it? You're so fucking insecure that what you like might not be good, as if liking bad things is unacceptable.

>>377147639
heroin can be very fun too
you should try it

>>377147916
>buzzwords
There you go, any word you don't like that gets posted too much is a buzzword.

>>377147867
And the point of critically looking at anything, is to make it better - on top of open dialogue being enjoyable in the first place.

If everyone ate up every thing that was just "fun", the quality of literally every single artistic medium would plummet.
I've had fun with bad games before but that doesn't excuse their flaws. You can't excuse a games flaws because some retard will find it fun somewhere anyway.

>>377143826
It's the other way around. A game is usually popular because it is bad. Normies can't handle good games, since 99% of them don't want to play good games. They want to play shallow games that give instant gratification but have zero depth.

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>>377143826
>how can [Game] be shit, it's popular after all

>>377147916
you can objectively measure the quality of gameplay

for example
a game that has to show your arrows in order to navigate you to the next location of interest is absolute trash, because NOT having built a comprehensible interesting world that draws the player on its own to interesting locations is a sign of failed world/level design

>>377147867
So you have low standards for being entertained.

>>377144396
Skyrim?

>>377147998
>and something doesn't have to be good for you to like it?
That's retarded, if you say you like something that means it must have some aspects that you consider good.

>>377147916

>The media you adore is thriving

Yeah and that's a bad thing because good games no longer make enough money to be financially viable, meaning games must be dumbed down as much as possible and inflated with as much day-1 DLC and microtransactions in order to make money.

>>377143826
>>377144075
>Game is bad!
>why?
>I didn't like it
>REEEE YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY DISLIKE THIS GAME IT'S PERFECT YOU HATE IT BECAUSE IT'S POPULAR

>>377148095
>cherry pick a certain word and not refuting the main argument
How are all critically praised indie games walking simulators? How are all AAA games low quality low effort trash?
Source your claims anon.

>>377148228
No, it means you like it, you can recognize that a game has objectively bad design and still enjoy it. The retarded "infinite backwards speed" in Big Rigs is fun, but is not good.

>>377148220
video games are the lowest form of entertainment in the first place, people being proud of their """standards""" in games always make me laugh.

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./v/ only likes games that they can masterbate too

>>377147867
Cubes with star shaped holes for blocks to put in them are a form of entertainment that retarded kids seem to love. Surely you can spend all day having fun with one of these since it makes retarded kids have fun. It must be an extremely well designed, and critically flawless product.

>>377147639
if you're having fun from playing indie walking simulator and todd moneybeard's brown shooter 2017, the reason you're having fun is because your standards are low. either you're new to the hobby or you just don't play all that many games, or you stick to whatever trash gets shoved down your throat and thus you've never been exposed to the shit that really makes you go "holy shit, so this is why people are so passionate about a bunch of pixels on a fucking screen."

it's fine if you have fun from that shit. i don't begrudge people who enjoy movies like transformers, anime like sao, etc. their fun. good for em if they like that shit. the problem isn't you, the problem is the industry for churning out this low effort shit because they know they can get away with it. so yeah, i'm gonna bitch when it happens. if you like it, that's cool, my criticisms aren't aimed at you.

>>377147916
>can you state reasons on why they're low quality low effort trash?
it would depend on the game, and it's not a universal problem, even within a single game. there are games out there where you can really see that certain teams tried really hard while others didn't give a fuck. maybe the art direction and visuals are absolutely fantastic but the animations look like some janky shit put together by a retard. maybe a certain part of the game was obviously handled with care but the rest of it was handled by committee.

it's not a new problem, there has always been some extent of this. the problem is more that (a) it's more common than ever, (b) it sells too well, and (c) this happens because journalists get paid to say good things about it and have no fucking integrity to call a turd a turd. and a lot of consumers aren't nearly as discerning as they should be, since they only play maybe a handful of games a year anyway.

>The media you adore is thriving
"thriving" by what standard? the insurance industry is thriving, that doesn't mean i like what they're doing.

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>>377148490
Those are actually fun tho so....

>>377148457
Yeah, comic books and TV are some real quality entertainment.

>>377148442
You can be critical of something without thinking it's bad overall.
>big rigs
People don't like Big Rigs, they make fun of it because of how bad it is, like "funny bad" movies.

>>377148457
That's the kind of hyperbole I'd expect from (You).

>>377148490
they are meant to improve your problem solves skills at a very young age and are actually good for the target audience. context matters

>>377144396
Anything released in the past 5 years that you can complain about by using buzzwords

>>377147916
Not that anon, but
>Why? can you state reasons on why they're low quality low effort trash?
We can look at gameplay aspects and other design aspects and see what works and what doesn't. It really isn't rocket science.

Say, take the final boss for Dying Light.
You have 3 different skill trees, 30+ different skills and loads of different moves and attack patterns to work with - but the final boss is a QTE.
Low quality low effort trash

Say, take the open world design for Witcher 3.
You have a stunning, beautifully detailed world that while beautiful, is completely and woefully stuffed full of completely boring and monotonous POIs, that don't work well with the existing systems of economy and loot in the game. When things, mechanics, don't work well together, thats a clear cut flaw.
Copy pasting boring, shallow tasks all over your world is - yes - low quality low effort trash.

>The media you adore is thriving and you throw a shit fit because of the people that make the games who have no relevance in the objects they create?
The media can thrive and still improve. The media can thrive and accept criticism and actually think about their design decisions.

>doubt that you love video games, I think you're a child raised by /v/ trying to fit in by throwing around buzzwords you see others using.
No, I think hes a long time hobbyist of video games who can still look at them critically and asses what worked and what didn't. We do critical thinking on so many different things in our lives, why not extend that to entertainment as well?
Its not an impossible concept to enjoy and criticize something at the same time. My favorite game of all time is chock full of flaws but its still my favorite and I love it to death.

>>377148668
just because you never leave your basement, entertainment doesnt end at things you can do while sitting in a chair

>>377148738
So what if your target audience for games is people who don't give a rat's ass about video game quality and want the shallowest shit you can throw at them for $60 for a 3 hour experience + low skill floor low skill ceiling "competitive" online play?

Is it a good game because it caters to people who specifically want to play bad games?

>>377148457
>>377148898
>the end goal is to be entertained, that's all that matters!
>b-but some types of entertainment are better than others!
Which is it faggot?

>>377143826
Becouse it is popular, most people that do enjoy a game are either playing it or discuss it somewhere else.
People that got cucked into preordering a game becouse of a trailer and then realise its not for them come to /v/ to talk shit about it.

I bet you apply this to anyone who dislikes popular games regardless of whether they dislike for being popular or not.

>>377148738
This is the same logic that makes people think throwing a bucket of paint on a canvas and calling it abstract is high quality, respectable art of the highest skill.

>>377149025
>playing neptunia nagasaki re:birth 38 while drinking mountain-dew is the same kind of fun as banging a girl you bring home from a club

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>implying there isn't an inverse correlation between popularity and quality

>>377149136
But it isn't one is throwing paint and the other is learning shapes

>>377149136
yeah and love is just a chemical reaction right morty?XD

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>>377149221

>>377148976
Its a called a good game by people with low standards.
The way this thread is going, we will have some assblasted shill shout about GOTY awards and sales in no time - because as we all know, sales and awards are a clear cut seal of pure quality right?

>>377148848
Not him, but YOU are nowhere near qualified enough to say for sure whether or not Witcher 3's Open world design doesn't fit with its other systems like economy and combat.

There is no objective or even academically educated measure of dissonance from your part. Its quite literally just your opinion and in no way a universal representation of a lack of merit on the developer or games part.

Tl;dr: You don't get to decide "What works and what doesn't." You get to tell people "This didn't work for me." and hope that the majority agree'd with you to form consensus.

>>377148898
~ moving the goalposts ~

>>377149221
>Eternal September or the September that never ended is Usenet slang for a period beginning in September 1993, the month that Internet service provider America Online began offering Usenet access to its many users, overwhelming the existing culture for online forums.
>Every September, a large number of incoming freshmen would acquire access to Usenet for the first time, taking time to become accustomed to Usenet's standards of conduct and "netiquette". After a month or so, these new users would either learn to comply with the networks' social norms or tire of using the service.
>Whereas the regular September freshman influx would quickly settle down, the influx of new users from AOL did not end, and Usenet's existing culture did not have the capacity to integrate the sheer number of new users following September 1993. Since then, the popularity of the Internet has brought on a constant stream of new users and thus, from the point of view of the pre-1993 Usenet users, the influx of new users in September 1993 never ended.

>>377149238
Both are trying to present a simpleton's level of entertainment as valuable works of extremely high quality because they appeal to simpletons

>>377149204
What does or doesn't entertain you is different from person to person, there is no "type of fun". Stop rating other people's hobbies.

>>377144003
It's an okay game with decent story. AI is completely stupid for no reason so the clicker sections are the only enjoyable ones gameplay wise. Clickers being stupid doesn't matter since they are fungus brain and just rush you. I like the uncharted series better since the gameplay are more solid for 2 / 4. Idk why the AI in UC was decent but they are horrendous in LoU for no reason. Maybe they tried to over design the human AI to do too much stuff and they sperg out most of the time. UC2 was a huge jump from UC 1 so there is hope for LoU.

>>377149204
>wanting to have sex with roasties
Way to set that bar low bro.

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>>377149441
No, one is learning and the other is throwing paint

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>>377149204
>projecting insecurities on a mongolian basket weaving forum

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>>377149458
Yes there is. People throughout history have been hurt, killed, excommunicated, and so on, because they had the wrong type of interests or the wrong type of fun. Who are you to say you are single handedly more correct than people throughout thousands of years of history?

>>377149458
>>377149639
rekt

>>377149458
my point is that having fun is the most important part of video games and entertainment in general. the guy having fun with an ""objectively"" bad game while you feel enlightened and intelligent, stroking your own dick. there are way too many ways to prove that youre smart, being a cynical faggot when it comes to video games is not one of them and no one outside a small circlejerk will take you seriously

>>377144003
TLOU is just mediocre, that's it. It's not great and it's not a bad game.

>>377149741
wtf i love popular games now

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>>377143915
>Not enjoying a factually good game because you feel yourself smarter

>>377149853
>mediocre
>not bad game
Pick one my dude

>>377149874
wtf i hate popular games now. this surely will help compensating for the lack of real-life success
i feel so smart man

>>377149639
I'm only talking on the basis of things you enjoy or don't enjoy. I'm not condoning someone who commits homocide for fun or whatever you're implying, but I do acknowledge that that person is enjoying what they do even if I don't.

>>377149853
It was horribly overrated for a game that you admit was just mediocre.

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>>377149639
This is the edgiest shit I love it

>>377144003
well depends
if you compare its gameplay to any other game it becomes absolute trash
if you compare its story and characters to any other game it becomes OK
if you compare it to a movie(which it tries extremely hard to be) it becomes unredeemable shit that is so bad that you wonder why so many people praise its character or story as even remotely good

>>377149741
Nah dude fun is just a buzzword. If you can't explain to me in minute detail why you enjoy playing a game and why that game is objectively good that means what you're enjoying is actually shit.

I don't actually believe this btw but there are several shitheads here that unironically, seriously, do.

>>377149974
You're projecting again.

>>377149741
>>377149974
>casuals are so attached to their favorite games that they see criticism of them as personal attacks and retaliate with ad hominem
LMAO

ITT: enlightened spergs who go defensive when people dont take them seriously even in their own circlejerk
must feel bad

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>>377149639
If you really believe someone deserved any of these becouse he had a different taste in books, music, movies or games then you should seriously seek help.
If you just have fun shitposting then keep going.

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>>377149639
>who are you to say
W-who am I?!

>>377149972
Mediocre doesn't mean bad, shithead.

>>377149741
There is nothing wrong with cynicism within a hobby/medium because it usually means the hobby improves. Being happy with the same thing is detrimental. Again, I just think your standards for having fun in video games is low. I don't care about that, you do you, but I do care that you're acting above those that give more of a shit.

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>>377150212
>he fell for the b8
ez

>>377150174
>My taste is so much better than theirs and my opinions are all actually objective factual flaws against the games they like.
>Feels so good to be more intelligent than them.
>Oh god I'm so enlightened I could nut.

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>>377149639
that was cold
cold as steel

>>377146770
Because unlike other artforms, video games are mechanical and can be judged on a scientific basis.

>>377149394
>Tl;dr: You don't get to decide "What works and what doesn't." You get to tell people "This didn't work for me."
Okay then.

The open world design in Witcher 3 doesn't work because it doesn't work well with the economy in the game and the loot system.
Why doesn't it work?

Because before the very last DLC, money had almost no value whatsoever. There was barely any incentive to rummage around in shops because you couldn't buy powerful items like in Dark Souls, and you couldn't buy powerful weaponry because of...

...the loot system, which also hurts both. Witcher gear is better than any found or crafted weapon will ever be in the game, and this applies even if the witcher gear is underleveled in comparison.
Witcher gear is gained from quests, so the diagrams being out in the world have no meaning because obtaining them is such a huge crap shoot that you might as well do the quest right off and be done with it.

So you have a loot system that actively discourages the player to explore and find new pieces of gear, and you have an economy, or lack thereof, that even further destroys the value of money and thus exploration.
There is zero reason to explore in the Witcher 3, apart from the world looking pretty. There is absolutely no reward, no gameplay depth (as if potions and the like could help the enemy variety and low moveset variety anyway) to be gained that you wouldn't find from quests anyway, and no real incentive to hoard money for 130+ hours before the last DLC.

So tell me, why does it work?
>Its quite literally just your opinion
No shit genius, but it is an opinion that is argued for with actual points instead of casual blanket statements that effectively says nothing - like your pompous ass is doing right now.
You can't write off criticism with "ur opinion", arguments and criticism are usually based on opinions sure, but often employ facts and actual reasoning as to why something didn't work.
How did the QTE final boss work for Dying Light?

>>377150303
>casuals are so attached to their favorite games that they see criticism of them as personal attacks and retaliate with ad hominem
LMAO

>>377150187
Tell us more about how much you want to fuck roasties you found at the club.

>>377149639
>Appeal to authority
Yawn.

>>377150371

>>377150303

>>377150174
>casuals enjoying a game
>enlightened fedoralord comes in
>according to this mspaint comic this game is objectively bad
>okay but im having fun
>youre having the wrong kind of fun, i will come back tommorow and show it again

>>377150445
>casuals are so attached to their favorite games that they see criticism of them as personal attacks and retaliate with ad hominem
LMAO

>>377150303
Are you a woman?
If yes, post vocaroo

>>377150303
At least the people "shitting" (even if some of then enjoyed them still) on your favorite game provide arguments, instead of casual blanket statements like you people do.

>>377147202
You're fucking dreaming bro. The extent of /v/s discussion has always been
>this game is fucking shit
>NUH UH
>YA HUH
>NUH UH
>YA HUH
and it fucking always will be.

>>377150445
yeah typically people don't like it when the thing they like gets worse instead of better, i guess corporate whores just aren't people

>>377150473
dont know, i only see people sperging out because others dont take their objective truth seriously
rejected kids who come here cant deal with being ignored even on this site

>>377148139
This so mucherfucking much this.
You have no idea how fucking infuriating it is to be unable to point out any of the numerous flaws in Overwatch while playing it without all the other players insulting you for DARING to not suck Blizzard's dick non-stop.

>>377150584
>>377147159

>someone actually makes genuine fucking points about the issues in one game that just happens to be popular
>"lol no its just you're opinion"

Nice fucking going proving what >>377147501 said, Holy shit

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>>377147867

>>377150361
>argued for with points
No. You haven't made a single valid "Point" in that entire post. It was literally all your contrived opinion projected onto how you think others SHOULD be playing games. You're the pompous ass here and you've effectively said nothing in far more words.

>That you might as well do the quests instead of explore because witcher gear is the best
>Loot system discourages the player from exploring because all players would rather minmax and ONLY go for the best loot, witcher gear.
>the value of money is lost because of this same moronic thread of thought that I'm assuming immediately extends to everyone so nobody would want to explore thus nobody would find value in the currency.

These aren't "Points" these are your own perspectives of playing the game and how you think they should be played, not objective flaws in the game itself. And they're pretty shit points that rely on your own flawed minmaxing tactics to begin with. This sounds a lot like every shithead thats ever brainlessly waxed about how bad BoTW is because their foolish ass couldn't find pleasure in exploration.

>list things and mechanics that didn't work well with other things and mechanics
>argue for each point and explain through experience and pure facts why it makes logical sense
>get handwaved away with "itz just ur opinion :)", get absolutely no dialogue or argument going.

Whoa, so this is the power of pure fanboyism.

>>377150781
"It's just your opinion" is what the casual cries out when confronted with facts. The casual doesn't understand that discussion is the exchange of opinions and ideas, and that a positive opinion has absolutely no more or less weight than a negative opinion, but still shouts "jus ur opinon!!!!" to dismiss an opinion he doesn't like.

>>377143826
this
>>377144003
/v/ doesnt play video games unless they're obscure japanese vns (which arent games anyways) or 20 year old retroshit

just save yourself the trouble and just shitpost like everyone else

>>377150781
>someone actually makes genuine fucking points about the issues in one game that just happens to be popular

where do you see this? there are almost zero discussions on this site, everything is labelled as "weebshit", "westshit", "its just shit", "sjw" or some autistic buzzwords. actual video game discussion is fine, this board has almost none

>>377150904
He's still 100% right, if you can't actually explain why you like something other than "IT'S FUN!!!!!" you should kill yourself

>>377144003
Its a well made game with some obvious, very well-done sections and parts. The relationship between Joel and Ellie grows naturally and slowly and Joel never fully opens up but what he does say to Ellie is more important than what he doesn't. The ending is also fantastic and the last bit of dialogue is proof that the game shouldn't need a sequel. After that the characters in general are well done but not all that memorable. Tess guilt tripping Joel is great. But the brothers and others are completely unmemorable to me. I recall there being a hidden gay relationship that was very well hinted at and was nice to follow. But the game has its problems.

The ai is pretty stupid and the stealth is very basic. The shooting has weight and consequence, but the survival aspect rapidly disappears.

The environment shifts are great but the set pieces are too Uncharted for such a down to earth tone. Also there are holes that come with any zombie apocalypse story. The vector of the infection is too unreliable to lead to such a rapid spread and the military response is very medicore for a threat that's primarily melee oriented and relies on human waves. The idea relies on suspension of disbelief too much to me.

The story is also predictable as hell. Have you seen a zombie apocalypse movie? Have you read the Walking Dead? It's like that. Exactly like that.

It's still very well executed. But its a classic only to the video game market and I doubt that in 10 years it will be regarded in the same way as others. And it certainly isnt a masterpiece or a game of the generation. It's a game that is worthy of recommendation and admiration, not exultation.

>>377151053
can you explain why having sex is fun?

>>377143826
This is /v/ in a nutshell.

If a game is getting talked about on a news site, someone on /v/ will raise to shitpost for (you)s

>>377150965
Stop falseflagging and remember Descartes

>>377151154
Because the chemicals in your brain reward you for stimulating the nerve endings of your dick with the complimentary vagina, or in the case of gay sex, just for stimulating the nerve endings of your dick/stimulating your prostate.

>>377150892
Basically it's a game of averages. For example, when more people play chess, the stupider the average chess player becomes, as the people who are most compelled to play chess will dedicate the most time to it and to mastering it.

>>377151154
it directly stimulates the pleasure center of your brain

>>377151154
You are pretty obsessed with sex and clubbing dude. Maybe /v/ just isn't for you?

>>377151154
Where do you think you are?

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>>377143826
LOL, this is what casual faggots actually believe!
Here is the non retarded version.

>the series I used to love, in order to appeal to a mass market, had to strip down it's mechanics and difficulty ruining what made it special and better than the competition
>this game is too easy and offers no satisfaction in beating it and "solving" it's puzzles
>this game is just a derivative of much better games I've played over the years and is therefore dissatisfying
>this game has constant tutorials and button prompts, clearly made for newbies, kids and casuals, not someone who has a wide breadth of experience in games
Shouldn't you casual fags be posting on reddit right now?

>>377150906
>>377150361

Continued: Here's why it works in witcher.

1. You've got a massive world that you can explore and find simple pleasure in doing so. The mystique of adventure is present in nearly all facets of the open design where you have complete freedom to go where you choose.
2. You're rewarded with loot and gear that you can use or sell throughout your journey to help you further your adventures.
2a. Just because YOU think that this process isn't rewarding doesn't mean it factually isn't. Because factually, it is. You are rewarded.
3. The open design allows for sequencing in various orders of possible game events which ensure that all players have their experiences semi-unqiuely tailored to their choices of what pursuits they want to address first, something thats impossible to do in games with linear narrative and plot progression, and something that's allowed for wticher fans to discuss the game itself and how they played it from several angles which can compliment or clash with one another, which is an objectively good point of gameplay variety that DOESN'T rely on having to replaying the game to see significant differences, but in fact encourages it after discussion with others about how the game played out for them.

>>377151247
>>377151292
every single emotion is just a chemical reaction in the brain. what you said is nothing more than saying "its fun". the question is (according to you), why is it fun? what makes it create those chemical reactions?

>>377151294
and youre obsessed with me, fuck off cunt

I agree it's bad but nowadays you can't criticize something without 20 oversensitive faggots jumping on you and crying "WELL I THINK IT'S PERFECT SO THAT MEANS IT IS AND YOU ARE A CONTRARIAN"

I mean just look at /co/ and the new Samurai Jack season it took 9 episodes for they to realize maybe it did suck and it was a bad idea to do it like they did, all the other episodes /co/ got so fucking defensive it was cringy as fuck, they were literally unable to accept it's flaws.

>>377148262
Saying a game is bad because you didn't like it is fucking stupid though.

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>>377144003

Why are Sony faggots the only ones with "u didn't even watch my fav games, STFU" bullshit. It's pathetic.

Also all Naughty Dogs games are pure cancer, play some good games on your PS4, there are dozens of them.

>>377150634
I don't play overwatch, but be grateful that the gameplay designer at Blizzard doesn't listen to the communitys whining (from what I've heard.)

I play BF1 with all its flaws, and the whiny, retarded as fuck playerbase is actively influencing what gets changed. The game could have changed to be a lot better a couple weeks back but the changes were pushed back by the misinformed retard community.

>>377151486
fuck off faggot samurai jack is great

>>377151443
>every single emotion is just a chemical reaction in the brain. what you said is nothing more than saying "its fun". the question is (according to you), why is it fun? what makes it create those chemical reactions?
no, i mean it directly stimulates the pleasure center of your brain. as in, rubbing your penis against a mucus membrane directly stimulates nerves that are wired to the pleasure center of your brain.

games can be fun for lots of different reasons, all of which do eventually tie back to "it stimulates a certain part of your brain," but the path there is way more complicated than "nerves in X are wired directly to your pleasure center."

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>>377143826
>Game is bad
>why?
>list reasons
>REEEE you're just a Sonybro/Xboxfag, poorfag, or didn't actually play the game.

Why do Nintendo babies do this?

>>377151443
The human body is extremely complex and its reactions to any artistic medium can be predicted depending on prior experiences. It would take many college courses on the human body in order to scientifically pinpoint what makes a videogame "fun" because it'd require you to study why many subjective things appeal to the human brain (such as sound design, art design, gameplay, which somewhat boils down to the fact that sound has a healing effect on the body, geometry and math are satisfying to the human mind such as the golden rectangle and spirals, and the strive for satisfaction you gain from gameplay. All of these are at their most basic explanations and it's a rabbit hole of further and further studying to figure out why certain people like certain things.

>>377151486
There's a difference between valid criticism and trying to push your shitty opinion as a valid criticism.

See: >>377150361
Its an example of the latter.

>>377151706
It's OKAY but the last season falls short at telling a story, being a conclusion, developing characters and being a good show in general. It's pretty and sometimes some things are good, that's it.

>>377143826
Now it's time to post on v where you can be objectively told your experience with a game is invalid because you enjoyed playing it unless it's a 'good' game.

>>377144465
Yeah, I would say that Minecraft requires imagination, but is simple to get into.It is vidya legos. Minecraft will only become complex if you want it to be, otherwise you can just pick up and play. Games with complex themes, writing, gameplay, and high difficulty are far more averse to normies. Minecraft is none of these things.

>>377151741
>I don't like this game
>Why?
>Here's why. Conclusion: This is a bad game.
>Its not a bad game, you just don't like it.

>B-BUTTHURT DRONE DEFENSE FORCE CAN'T HANDLE CRITICISM.

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>This game has flaws
>Yeah but those flaws are minor
>If the flaws were so minor then why couldn't they easily fix them
>because they're minor flaws you idiot they wouldn't bother
>but if they're so minor then why are they too lazy to fix them real quick in fact in the age of digital media you could easily just patch those minor flaws out and not doing so just proves that you didn't care about the consumer after he purchases your product and therefore you didn't care enough about your product.
>you're just a troll

>>377151443
Hahaha, what a transparent little idiot you are. Enjoy your clubbing and fucking third-rate roasties.

>>377151985
So you are saying facts are opinions? If something is objectively bad then it's bad, that doesn't mean you can't like it, but trying to pretend everything you like it's objectively good it's pathetic.

It's okay to like bad things, everyone does it. Now tell us what it is, anon.

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>>377151741
>trying to discuss with Nintendo fans

Its even worse now when you point out the Switch has no games and they jump to the LoZ BotW and eshop trash defense

>>377143826
>People have shit taste
>popular game must appeal to shit taste
>popular game is shit

everytime. If your game is good it fits a niche, if the game appeals to lots of people it's garbage

>>377143826
>game is shit but it somehow got very popular
>any criticism towards the game is denied with "lol fedora much??"
Skyrim, Fallout 4, etc.

>>377150906
>No. You haven't made a single valid "Point"
Again you're just handwaving this shit away like a lazy fuck, so I'll just move on.
>>377151393
>1. You've got a massive world that you can explore and find simple pleasure in doing so.
Simple treasure? Like what, alchemy ingredients and food? Both of which are useless in the long run because potions refill themselves after you make the recipe?
>2. You're rewarded with loot and gear that you can use or sell throughout your journey to help you further your adventures.
Quest rewards are pointless too. 2 hours in and you already have witcher gear, which completely outplaces any quest rewards you obtain. It goes to the point where it feels awkward, when a leader of a old clan gives you their family sword but its worse than a witcher gear sword thats 5 levels lower than it.
>2a. Just because YOU think that this process isn't rewarding doesn't mean it factually isn't. Because factually, it is. You are rewarded.
With fucking WHAT?
You're "rewarded" with objectively inferior and outright pointless pieces of gear, some of which even remove depth from the combat, since only witcher gear has its properties.
Throwing useless, pointless shit at the player isn't a reward, its a disappointment. Kinda like Gwyns sword in Dark Souls 1. You go through the entire game and finally get the legendary sword of the lord of sunlight, but its objectively worse in EVERYTHING in comparison.
>3. The open design allows for sequencing in various orders of possible game events
Velen, Novigrad, Skellige and then the rest of the game is three paths, 90% of which is played in that order. Sure, it is an open ended route and a plus for the game.
>objectively good point of gameplay variety
The gameplay variety is nonexistent though, because of the quest design and how utterly devoid of depth it is. It doesn't TRULY matter at which point you do skellige. It really doesn't. You don't gain new movesets, enemies don't get more depth etc

>game is bad
>why
>because it's unpopular

Battleborn, ME Andromeda, Might Number 9, the list goes on. I bet none of you even played any of these games but think they're bad anyyway

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>>377151393
>You've got a massive world that you can explore and find simple pleasure in doing so.
I'm sorry as someone who's yet to play Witcher 3 I can't really opine but technically fucking Minecraft did this, it's not hard whatsoever when you simplify the open world system to that level. In fact, it takes even more effort to put together a world that's coherently pieced together with satisfying rewards for actually exploring. See: Majora's Mask and Pic related.

>>377152484
M'lady

Am I the only one who sometimes loves when games i like become popular, but at other times hate when games I like become popular? For example, I like that skyrim is so popular, but hate that dark souls is so popular

>>377152967
I'd like to be your friend so that I could figure out what exactly your thought process is on determining that if it isn't simple teenage angst

>>377152293
Somebody out of spite actually made this edit because he was so insecure, I love it when the hardcore gamer says that non AAA titles don't "count" as games

ive noticed chink weeb autism games are universally praised on here

>>377152531
Skyrim and fallout aren't bad games though. They're mediocre games. Mario is missing is considered a bad game.

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>>377153127
If you would be so kind as to point out any eshop games that are worth buying for the Switch when most of them have been available for a long time on PC.

>>377153212
>chink
>weeb
>autism
That's a given.

>>377153219
He said Fallout 4 is a bad game not the series and he's correct

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Pic related. It's the finest Final Fantasy game ever made yet contrarian neckbearded /v/ will never admit it.

>>377153291
Do they have HD Rumble though?
Pkeks = 0
Switchbros = ∞

>>377151393
>>377152657
To continue:

If you don't give your player an incentive - you have failed in designing that particular facet of the game. There is no incentive to exploring because the rewards for exploring don't do anything new or exciting that you don't get from linear story progression anyway.

Exploring in Dishonored can lead to different pathways, actual meaningful loot, more skills to use, more lore, more backstory etc etc. When you explore, you are actively building your tools, options, items and knowledge of the world

Exploring in Witcher 3 can lead you to a few completely pointless alchemy recipes, alchemy ingredients, loot that is absolutely useless and money that isn't worth all the hauling and farming because it barely has value. When you explore, you are not gaining any skills because the EXP rewards for POIs are fucking laughable, the tools you acquire are barely useful or incentiviced for use anyway and you're not indulging in the rich lore of the Witcher because the world isn't filled to the brim with lore notes and background information. The closest you get are the 2 minute backstories for sunken treasure chests, which are all quite generic "and heres how my treasure got fucked"
- stories

Fucking come on

>>377153032
I think it really has to do with how people are enjoying the game for me. For skyrim, I feel like the "casuals" who played it really got into the RP and story aspects of it. While for dark souls, it seems like most people who like it are fedora tippers who seem like they have "skill" because they spent more than 30 minutes beating a boss and lost more than 3 times. It seemed like elder scrolls popularity made the game better (for example it encouraged modders), while dark souls popularity made it worse (dark souls 2 and 3 were notably worse than dark souls 1)

>>377144003
Great story and characters, mediocre gameplay, very disapointing since I was hoping for a nice survival horror. Like all ps3 naughty dog games it becomes infuriating on higher difficulties to the point where you wonder if they even tested it on anything higher than normal. If your playstyle deviates slightly from the developers intent the game falls apart completely. A lot of areas feel on rails even thought you´re in an open enviroment. On repeat playthroughs once the story and character loose their initial impact the flaws become much more noticable. It´s not outright bad, but it feels catered to people who play through the campaign once on easy/normal, talk about it for a week or two and then never think about it again. If uncharted was the vidya equivalent of a summer blockbuster then he last of us is oscar bait. People don´t dislike it because it´s popular (at least I like to think so, there´s always parroting assholes) but because it feels like it was made to be the most popular with a mass audience from the start instead of being enjoyable for people who like vidya

>>377143915
It's literally the definition of hipster. You say this shit, and next thing you know you're inside a Starbucks ordering a Chai Latte wearing a slightly askew Trilby and typing on your Mac laptop about the new obscure band you stopped listening to.

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>>377153484
Damn Pkeks will never get to enjoy 1-2-Switch, how will they ever recover?

>>377153291
>you should hang yourself because you used facts and logic

Like I said out of spite, keep calling me names you might change my opinion

>>377144187
What little i played of prey i liked

>>377152830
Mighty No. 9 is shit though
>dash mechanic is poorly implemented and is nothing more than an attempt to put something "unique" in the game, killing enemies with regular shots takes way too many shots and the visual feedback shows they REALLY want you dashing rather than shooting down enemies
>enemy variety is incredibly limited, mega man games were filled with unique enemies themed to each level, this game has the same 5 enemies for the whole game, the white house level is probably the only one that has unique enemies with the camoflauge UFOs and the robot busts
>you can dash infinitely in the air, which negates platforming challenges since you can just reposition yourself completely
>bosses are drawn out and extremely pattern-based, in mega man you can shoot at the boss whenever you want but you also have to dodge its attacks, MN9 will have plenty sections where you have to wait for a boss to complete its ***CINEMATIC ATTACK*** where it goes outside the 2d plane. when you kill a boss, you don't get an awesome huge explosion, you get "LET ME SHOWER YOU IN PIXIE DUST" "WHOA BECK I'M SORRY FOR TERRORIZING THE TOWN, YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEND NOW"
>the game tells you directly which bosses are weak to which weapon
>pace of the game is completely fucked, you can dash but you can't walljump which is what kept the pace going in MMX, instead you "climb edges" which completely halts your speed, every stage also has a timed section where you're locked in a room to fight off enemies
>items are stupid, each item in mega man was clear in what it did (head = 1up, yellow ball same color as your HP bar = HP, colored ball same color as your weapon bar = weapon energy), every item in MN9 looks the same and plays the same pixie dust SFX

>>377153610
>I feel like the "casuals" who played it really got into the RP and story aspects of it.
You don't know that and that's highly improbable given that most newcomers seek very different and often shallow things from videogames.
>It seemed like elder scrolls popularity made the game better (for example it encouraged modders)
That's a good point I probably would have never played Skyrim had it not been for SAM.
>While for dark souls, it seems like most people who like it are fedora tippers who seem like they have "skill" because they spent more than 30 minutes beating a boss and lost more than 3 times.
Many "casuals" will feel the same exact way about Skyrim, and under the same breath, many newcomers probably enjoyed Dark Souls for the reason you think casuals enjoy Skyrim.
>while dark souls popularity made it worse (dark souls 2 and 3 were notably worse than dark souls 1)
Yeah that's a good point but I'm on the opinion that anything that gets popular will be hurt by that fact rather than benefited.

>>377152967
>>377153032
>>377153610
In my mind:

Dark Souls becoming popular incentivized Bamco to do their retarded release scheduling for Dark Souls 3, which hurt legitimate, non-streamer consumers. The popularity of the series got to the point where the players of said series got shafted.

The quality of the games is incredibly subjective as we all know, but this shit was just retarded.

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>all these butthurt hipsters getting their panties in a bunch because someone called out their retarded hatred for anything that sold more than 50k copies

>>377153886
>facebook meme
kill yourself

>>377154062
All fair points my good anon. While it's true that many casuals enjoying skyrim may have been enjoying it for internally fedora tipping reasons, I just got a feeling that people were enjoying it for the same reasons I was enjoying it. But hey, I could be completely wrong

>>377154223
Iove systrm shock 2 and i also love Skyrim

>>377154368
>I just got a feeling that people were enjoying it for the same reasons I was enjoying it.
That just shows you're selfish and think the world revolves around you when you're one of a 7 billion people and don't know shit about the majority of people.

>>377154223
>all these braindead shills who think that any and all criticism is because of a games popularity, or the simple need to do le ebin shitposts
Yes, and sales are an objective statistic for quality, correct?

>>377154348
>knowing what's a facebook filename
>hating on the place with the best memes rn
kys yourself familio

>>377154545
no everybody is le sheeple expect us, enlightened true GAMERS
feels good being so smart man

>>377154507
>humans inately like people who have similar likes as them
>anon questions that, and calls 7 billion people fuckos for believing it in

>>377144003
>until I beat it
Does that mean you hated it until you finished it?

Personally I thought it was a lot better than /v/ made it out to be until I tried it. Pretty poor game from what I've experienced of it.

>>377154656
>tfw too smart argue against you

>>377154545
if you see someone say something stupid like that, just refer to >>377147159 and >>377147501 to understand the mindset of these retards.

>>377154693
Egocentricism is retarded even if it is popular.

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>>377154693
You think it's impossible for 7 billion people to be wrong?

>>377154935
Funny enough, one of those posts is mine.
So I guess I got this covered

>>377151489
>you must have argument for disliking something
That's a shit train of thought. Do you have any arguments for why you don't like bong food? No, it's just fucking disgusting.

>>377151664
>Doesn't play Overwatch
Then stop making conjectures you autist.

>>377153652
There is literally nothing wrong with chai lattes, its basically cinnamon with black tea and milk

>>377155676
That's not what he said at all, fuckface. You don't need an argument to dislike something, you need an argument to call it bad.

>>377155814
I follow the community though, and like I said, that statement was because I heard it was so.

>>377143826
>Dislike hated game
>Defense force breaks through
>Likes hated game
>Contraian
>Likes love game
>Norime trash
>Dislikes hated game
>Hipster

Is the only way not to trigger /v/ is to be indifferent?

>>377154507
>anon gives his opinion
>someone dissects each sentence he wrote
>anon politely admits to possibly being wrong, while restating that he believes to being right
>nah you´re a selfish cunt, you don´t know shit about the world
I don´t know much about skyrim, and certainly don´t have any comprehensive data to back that up. But based on anectod alevidence I also believe that anon is correct, I know a lot of people getting into more "serious" rpg´s after liking skyrim and remember some drunk discussions about politics in skyrim by people who most of the time only played fifa, dota and the like

>>377154549
Facebook is for women fag.
No self respecting man uses facebook for anything other than business.

>>377156561
>while restating that he believes to being right
He was completely open to being wrong, which is why I pointed out his way of thinking is wrong because of the fact that he, you, and I, don't know shit about the world.

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The only solution is to turn it into a spin-off meme to be accepted around frogs and fedoras.
It's the same reason why so many weebs listen to nightcore. It's popular music just sped up, so they can also enjoy mainstream music without feeling bad to like what normies like

>>377153652
Any hipster worth his salt knows better than to go to starbucks, jesus

>>377153652
ha
starbucks is so passé

>>377155676
Well, actually taste can be described, and certain qualities of taste can be determined to be the source of nasty
So you would still be able to explain why you don't like food

>>377143826
Games aren't bad because they're popular, they're popular because they're bad. Like World of Warcraft, and Fallout 4, and Dishonored. People don't want well designed games, they want well polished games that let them have fun. And their idea of fun running around having cool stuff going on, on screen oblivious to the mechanics.

>>377157373
Look at this little shit pretending to know shit
You can't even handle the facebook memes, you don't even know on how many layers they are

>>377146102
can you give me a quick rundown on this show?

>>377158384
So what would you consider a well designed game?

>>377143826
Well, saying it's popular is a cheat but it happens to be right 95% of the time.
The answer doesn't directly connect to video games and wasn't always true but now it is.

The real reason most of these games are trash is because they're not original and they lack any kind of genuine ambition. Most of the time they put gameplay last and that's the shit that's popular. Things like starsector are just too weird for the now completely retarded populace.

9 years of common core.

>>377158384
>Dishonored
Dishonored is fucking great though, the fuck? And its not even that popular to begin with, clumping it with fucking WOW and F4?

>>377147159
I AM SILLY

>>377147524
maybe out turns out you have both shitty opinions about games and asbergers

>>377153652
Hipster or not, Starbucks is garbage. I'd rather go to a decent coffee place, or better yet save the money and make coffee at home.

>>377158746
Dishonored is utterly mediocre and truly one of the "modern stealth" games.

>>377161390
I don't even like playing Dishonored but even I know you gotta be retarded not to think the level design, especially for the second game, is amazing.

>>377144240
No wonder Souls games are so popular!

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Remember OP, you can't cherrypick if you want to be taken seriously.

>>377153652
Hipsters only like popular things though.

>>377143826
>Give reasons you dislike a game
>Nuh uh you're just pretending to hate it
Hi, Undertale fanbase

>>377161993
BOTW art style repulses me. It's such a downgrade from previous teasers and games. I've never play TLOU or seen much about it, it seems like a decent game but not real original.

>reactionary to bait threads whining about skyrim
skyrim is a good g ame, and cultural vidya milestone for the acceptance and normalization of open world games


the shitter plebs who only want to be held by the hand and carried through a virtual movie with minimal effort until next cutscene are the cancer of gaming, they praise garbage games like mass effect series, and witcher series, because they are literally movie watchers pretending to be gamers

>>377147159
This image is misleading since those games are actually derivative, boring, and watered down versions of previous installments.

The issue with it is that the negative response is not only reserved for such games, there is literally not a single game on /v/ where you could get a positive response, even if it is a game universally considered fairly above average such as System Shock 2.

>>377162302
you are too stupid to browse this website, sorry

>>377162384
Are you saying there's a game you could attempt to discuss on /v/ without getting the same negative response as in that comic?

Even one example will do.

>>377161993
botw is good because i liked it and tlou is bad because i didn't like it

>>377162513
you're retarded for thinking everything is black and white

people post dumb shit everywhere on the internet, if you are too stupid to disseminate the noise this is the worst possible website for you to be on, you are unironically the kind of retard who gets mad at people posting dumb jokes

>I don't agree with what you just posted
>Reply with Le go-to neckbeard fedora-tip man

>>377163259
What does the black and white idea have to do with what I said.

I'm literally just disappointed that you're not allowed to enjoy or discuss a game here.

If you attempt to there's always at least one person who is incredibly offended that you'd dare enjoy a game that isn't up to their standards.

Basically the amount of gatekeeping done by posters here is annoying.

Even your post is unnecessarily inflammatory in response to a really benign comment.