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SASUGA JOKAH
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IT'S
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>>377139425
SUGEI SUGEI
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Yooooooosh!
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ORETACHI NO SHORI DA
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Nice chugging!
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>I play video games in a language I don't understand
You people are such retards holy shit
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>>377140715
>not understanding glorious nihongo
Yare yare
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>>377140715
Do you not know how to read?
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>>377140813
Jojo reference?!?!
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>>377140715
でも日本語を話す
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RAKSHOU RAKSHOU
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Why do subfags insist on using Japanese voices because "it takes place in Japan so it makes more sense", but still keep English subtitles? You might as well go all the way if you really need that "immersion".
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>>377141359
Can I switch subs?
Reading the shitty localization is killing me
I'm on ps3 and I don't want to get a japanese one just to play it in JP
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>>377141359

I like how jap voice actors sound and I actually can read very quickly so it's not a problem for me to have subs. There's just nuances in the characters that don't carry over into spoken english very well.


But the real question is why are bothered by something else people enjoy?
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>>377141645
I'm not bothered that people enjoy Japanese dubs. I'm bothered that so many of them give the English dub so much shit and act like it makes them die just by listening to it.
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>>377140715
When I was a kid I watched all movies in english even though I couldn't speak it fluently.
There's just something that's off about dubs.
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>>377141645
>But the real question is why are bothered by something else people enjoy?

Literally whenever someone mentions they used the sub like 6 people respond to that person calling him a fag.
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>>377141082
>を話す
は話せる*
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Where does Mona get that chair and cigar?
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>>377141821
You can't simply show your shit taste and not get called on it around here.
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>>377142184
The cartoon character pocket universe
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>>377140847
>staring at the very bottom part of a screen in a video game where crazy shit is constantly going on just above it
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I tried to give the dub a chance. But it felt like they were pronouncing names wrong on purpose.

There's just no reason to play with the dub unless it's something exceptional, like Metal Gear Solid, or Cowboy Bebop for anime.
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i'd really love to use Jap voice but the problem is that the background dialogs aren't subbed so if this is your first time playing, you're gonna miss out some details.
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>>377142196
>Being a self hating weeb is the only worthwhile taste

You're the reason abortion exists.
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>>377142196
Shut the fuck up, Skull Face.
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>>377142184
Hammer space
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>>377139425
AZAYAKU NA SHOURI DA!
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>>377142283
Persona is one-half visual novel where you control the text speed and one-half turn based RPG where any in-battle text appears in the upper half of the screen.
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>>377142410
>Not speaking Jap

what are you doing with your life?
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>>377141859

You're on the biggest fucking weeb board on the internet. You think you're not gonna get called on liking dubs over subs? I agree we probably should be nicer to each other and respect opinions, but that shit doesn't happen in a board full of autismos especially wrt to anime and gaming.


Fuck dude that would be like me going into a counterstrike forum and talking about how good I am on a controller. It might be true, but it goes so roughly against the engrained culture of the board I can't but think anyone who doesn't see the backlash coming is fucking retarded.
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>>377142407
Sakamoto got to me a little, but the first time I heard them say takamaki I deleted my save and downloaded the retarded huge patch
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>>377142436
4chin is a weeb site. If you hate it, why are you here?
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Is Merciless difficulty built with NG+ in mind or something? One critical hit, one strike against a weakness, and a party member goes from full health to dead.
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私は日本語わかります?
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>>377142537
Name one VN where you can't control the text speed.
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>>377142617
>culture of the board.

Maybe if this were 10 years ago.
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>>377141645
>why do you dislike things you disagree with

Oh, the humanity. Nobody should be allowed to dislike the actions of others.
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>>377142593
dunno but i sure as hell not wasting my time learning a language for FUCKING VIDEO GAMES
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>>377142736
>question mark at the end

What with this horrific language? You read from left to right, but then your Japanese mangas are made to be read from right to left? This makes no effing sense.
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>>377142773
How is that relevant, at all?
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>>377142870
If the sentences are vertical you read top to bottom, right to left
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>>377139425
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>>377142870
>You read from left to right
In most, if not all, manga speech bubbles they actually read from top to bottom.
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>>377141359
It's waaaaay easier to understand spoken Japanese than it is to read it.
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>>377143064
I wish they used the regular cat profile for Morgana in the real world.
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>>377142836

Disliking something isn't the same as being bothered by it.

For instance, I dislike trannies because I think they're fucking retarded loud whiny crybabies. I can ignore them and continue with my daily activities without being bothered by their existence however.

With a grasp on English like yours I would definitely lay off the "hooo boy look at this guy" avatar posting.
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>>377143064
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. MYYYYYYYYY NEEEUUUUUUURRRRRRRRROOOOOOONNNNNNSSSSS
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>>377143180
I wish they gave actual cat Morgana more expressions.
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>>377140715
Sorry I don't like to cringe while playing video games
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The noise Morgana makes when you get a seat on the train is my favorite.
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>>377142773
999
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>>377140715
>含まれる私に日本語が分からない
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>>377140715
>playing weeaboo shit in anything but glorious nihongo
馬鹿じゃないか?
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>>377139425
A-arigato, neko-chan!
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>I play all my japanese games and watch all my anime with the english dub of course
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>>377141821
>I'm bothered that so many of them give the English dub so much shit and act like it makes them die just by listening to it.
That's because English dubs are almost always shit. It's not like it's just English dubs either, Let It Die's Japanese dub is terrible.
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JIBUN NO JITSURYOKU GA KOWAI NAA
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>>377142870
It's called not being retarded
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>>377143445
Ryuji is absolute, irredeemable shit
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>>377143418
... karenai...

...maneru...

Was it? I'm still at beginner's level lol.
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DAIJOUBU KA PANSAA?
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HONTONI!?
Fucking love Aoi yuki
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まぁ、あんまり勉強しないのでペルソナで日本語をやってみようと思った

あと
>2017年
>日本語理解できない
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>tfw no Ann-dono PANSA gf
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This thread sucks.
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Persona is literally the only series where I see so much dubfags defending their god awful voices.

I guess its because getting dual audio with P5 was a first for the series.
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>>377143749
Go to bed you shitty cat.
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>>377143643
>i play all my Japanese games and watch all my anime with jap voice, that way i can be japanese too!
>but i need english subs

Either go all the way or don't at all you filthy gaijin
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>>377143824
get your shit together anon, no one should ever struggle with kana
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>>377142838
>Japanese is only good for video games

Believe what you will.

Also, learning ANY language =/= wasting time
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>>377140715
Sorry i actually enjoy adequate voice acting.
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>>377143749
Fuck off cat
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do you think japs insult each other over playing western games with japanese dubs
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>>377144085
Fuck Kanji
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>>377144076
He says, posting a subtitled image of a Japanese show.
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>>377144185
Considering all japs on futaba hate americans, yes
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>>377144185

They also probably comment on how bad English voices are since Japan takes voice acting very seriously.
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>>377144016
4chan is also literally the only place where people shit on the dub, because you're all jaded smelly NEETs

Goro's english VA is vastly superior to the jap one, fight me :^:^)^):^)^L:)^:^):^)
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>>377144303
I think you misread my post mate
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>>377143198
>semantics

You know very well what I meant, faggot. We don't live in a bubble, the very fact that you like certain things and do certain actions makes you a candidate to be criticized, and there's nothing wrong with that as it allows to refine our tastes and viewpoints (if we accept the criticism like a rational person would). What people like or dislike heavily affects our world, so it makes sense to be bothered by what people think, and it makes sense to try to convince them to see things your way. If you can't handle it, leave this place and go to a safe space like the weakling you are.
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>>377143445
Why is Morgana such an asshole?
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>>377144016
Pretty much, Atlus USA forcing their shitty dubs for so long meant they cultivated a fanbase of people who would defend them, and decry anyone actually wanting the original audio.
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>>377143749
But he learns charge and God's Hand. Meanwhile BONAFIDE MONAFIDE learns fucking garu spells and a shitty version of one shot kill without apt pupil.
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>>377144713
He's a cat. All cats are assholes.
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>>377144332
>having superior taste mean you're jaded smelly NEET
>reddit emote
>4chan is the only place

How to spot a redditor in one post.
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俺の日本語はわらうい
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>>377145024
No one with actual superior taste will claim to have it unless their head's far up their own ass.
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>>377141082
If you want to say that you can speak Japanese:
>日本語が出来る
(I) can speak Japanese

>上手になりたい
(I) want to get good (in Japanese)


In Japanese you cut a lot of the content you want to say because the other person understands your sentence without hand holding like in English.
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>>377145164
>わらうい
わるい*
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>when amerilards are voicing loli type characters
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>>377143160
I used to watch RAWs for the longest time since SUBS FUCKING WHERE.
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>>377145428
It's fine.
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>>377144562

No I didn't know what you meant because your language was imprecise. You should work on that.

But I do understand what you mean wrt the general atmosphere of people commenting on each other's tastes and how this helps create new forms of expression and alter current forms of expression. I by no means discourage bantz or criticism because hey it's fun.

But I think it's also very important for people to look inward and ask themselves "WHY does this bother me so?". I feel like so many- especially in this day and age of quickly spreading misinformation- just pick an opinion they sort of like without ever really thinking about it. That is more the purpose of my question- to lure out the underlying reasons for one's discontent.

Here, you can have a smug in exchange for your annoyed furry.
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>>377140715
Well I'm not english person, so it works the same in the end. So why not just go with the original one?
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>>377145428
>Rune Factory Oceans
>Pandora is a lolibaba with a typical cutesy loli voice
>Dub doesn't even attempt to preserve it and instead gives her a deep and mature sounding old woman's voice
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>>377145428
is there even a loli in this game
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>>377146076
Futaba
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>>377146076
What are you doing in a thread for a game you haven't even played?
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>>377146127
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Ryuji: *sneezes*

Morgana: SHUT THE FUCK UP SKULL YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF LITERAL SHIT, WHAT DO WE EVEN HAVE YOU ON THIS TEAM FOR? YOU'RE LUCKY LADY ANN IS SO KIND AS TO LET YOU HANG WITH US OR I'D KICK YOU OFF THE TEAM MYSELF YOU MORONIC LOUD-MOUTH OF AN ASSHOLE
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>>377146162
She's like 15 years old.
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>>377146127
>futaba is a loli
>doesn't mention Caroline, Justine, Lavenza

This board is retarded I swear.
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>>377143294

Haha. Playing games in Japanese doesn't make them any less cringworthy.
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>>377143064
Why was Mona-chan so based?
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>>377146241
Which makes her not a loli, thanks for proving me right.
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日本語はめっちゃゲイで、あなたは馬鹿なファッゴトですよ。
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>>377146241
Doesn't have the body of a loli.
Doesn't have the age of a loli.
Not a loli.

Stupid nu-weeb.
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>>377146295
Anybody 17 and younger is a minor, ergo a loli.

Unless they're a dude. Shota.
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>>377146135
I have, and if you want to count Caroline and Justine as lolis, their jap va doesnt make it sound so
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>>377146395
>Anybody 17 and younger is a minor, ergo a loli.
Why do you try to act like an authority on something you know nothing about?
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>>377144257
kana is easy as shit but if you think you will ever get anywhere with just kana your delusional
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>>377146446
>their jap va doesnt make it sound so
Nigger what? Yes they do.
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>>377146336

>Calling people faggots
>Using the polite あなた
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You can't spell Futaba without Futa.
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>>377146446
Stop posting anytime soon.
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>>377146554
Which means "two," as in 2chan, yes
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>>377146395
So Ann, Makoto and Haru are loli? At last I truly see all this time I had the wrong definition of loli.
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>>377146689
Hi fu mi
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>>377146267
epic shitpost senpai
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>>377146820
yes
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>>377146546
僕のニッガ、そうです。
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>>377146831
You're the cuck who's getting upset over some dubs. Go be an autist somewhere else.
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>>377145428
Right? It would be so much better if they were voiced by a screechy Japanese girl who begins every sentence by going "EHHHH?"
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>>377146856
>ニッガ
It's... it's just not the same.
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>>377142283
Figures the person shiting on the original voice acting is the American dude who can't fathom having to read subtitles
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AAAH SKUURU, NASAKENAI YATSU DA NA
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>>377147174
>SKUURU
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>>377147248
I figured there was something wrong with it but i'm just going by how it sounds sorry senpai
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You know I'm usually the first to advocate listening to things in their original language over a dub, I usually hate dubs. But Personas' usually have pretty good ones and the only thing people really have against it is hearing honorifics in English is very cringe worthy. Now while I agree, isn't hearing them butcher the English language equally cringe worthy? How is it better?
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>>377145531
I don't really bother with an exact right usage of words to counter silly opinions. Usually a simple reply like the first one accompained by a disappointed reaction face is enough to make them think about their flawed ways.

Anyway, it's true that sometimes you ought to let people be themselves, or not be bothered by what they like to the point where it takes control of your life, but at the right amount and for the right reasons it can be the cause for some pretty good criticism. Just saying, it doesn't really make sense to complain about why people here are bothered by other people's tastes; discussion is pretty much the point of this board, and "personal attacks" and "hate", as bad as they look, they actually force you to think about why you like what you like and to defend your position, which is good. At least you seem to have given it some thought.
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>>377146980
well then you must be a double cuck for getting mad at someone elses choice in dubs
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>>377147435
>But Personas' usually have pretty good ones
No they don't.
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>>377147435
The Japanese dub is just better. I honestly don't have anything else to say about it, this game has some A-list japanese voice actors and it's just miles better than the english dub. For me it's as simple as that.
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>>377147497
Yeah they usually do, for major characters at least. Yeah the minor ones overact quite a bit but usually they are on point. At least on par with the Japanese. Now I'm not trying to argue which is better because whichever you prefer listening to is obviously what you should stick to. I just don't understand how people don't think hearing engrish is better than honorifics.
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>>377147724
>Yeah the minor ones overact quite a bit but usually they are on point. At least on par with the Japanese.
Fuuka.
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>>377146395
Those are young adults, at the most Futaba would be a hebe
Lolis are prepubescents (between 9-12) so the Velvet Lolis are the only major lolis in the game outside of sick girl.
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>>377147776
Ehhh okay you got me on that.
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>>377147435
I'm not a native english speaker, so I'll always go for the original sound rather than an english dub. And japanese mispronouncing english words is just funny to me, similar to english speakers trying to talk in spanish.
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>>377147795
I thought Velvet Room attendants don't age? And if they did, they'd be several hundred years old, at least.
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>>377147840
And hopefully now you get it. Even if a dub has some decently voiced main characters, which Persona games do, the most common issue in dubs is a severe lack of consistent quality, and the shitty cast members drag the whole thing down with them. Japanese voice tracks rarely have issues with blatant quality disparity because they have a significantly larger talent pool to hire from.
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Has anyone beat the velvet twins yet? I've just started ng+ so I don't plan on fighting them so soon, but are they hard enough I don't have a chance if I'm not level 90 or so?
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>>377147942
They're still prepubescent though, which is the key thing for being a loli, moreso than the actual listed age. If they're hundreds of years old then Japan calls them lolibaba while the west goes with legal loli.
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>>377147910
What if the original is the English dub?
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>>377148164
They're hard enough that you don't have a chance if you're not Level 99 or so, AND making sure you have Persona specifically built for cheesing and breaking the game. They do have patterns that can be recognized and countered if you pay attention until the final portion where they seemingly go only for weaknesses
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>>377148359
>original
>dub
Pick one.
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>>377148129
Well actually it seems like Japanese media has a smaller pool than English actors considering that I feel like I hear the same voices in multiple series of anime and games. More so than English va's especially with the strike that went on/going on. I don't know if they resolved it
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>>377147942
Loli is a bodytype anon at least in our definition
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>>377148403
Well shit. Hopefully there is a secret dungeon or something I can grind in. Going from 75 to 83 was a pain for the final dungeon before you fight baolbawhatever
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>>377148583
No. There's the 7 normal dungeons and Mementos, and if you start the 8th dungeon, the battle is inaccessible.

The Flu Season tho
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>>377148403
Do they do the thing where they'll cast megidoloan if your persona reflects/absorbs the element?
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>>377148359
Then I watch it in english, like with most movies, tv series or western games.
Also, like >>377148408 said, the original voices can't be a dub, since it means to change them for other ones.
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>>377148697
Not that I know of. They might insta kill everyone if you have the omnipotent orb maybe, I don't know. And they insta kill if you play too defensively.
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>>377148679
Even then I don't see how it's possible to grind that much. Hell I remember I grinded for a couple hours in mementos and I didn't see the reaper at all
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>>377148451
>Well actually it seems like Japanese media has a smaller pool than English actors considering that I feel like I hear the same voices in multiple series of anime and games.
That's simply you being uneducated. The Japanese voice acting industry is significantly bigger than the American one and there are several times as many voice actors in it. You not being able to distinguish between different voices is simply because you don't have enough exposure to them, which is a problem people would have with any language they're not familiar with.
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>>377146203
Morgana: I think
Ryuji: That again you stupid cat?! Dumb cat. You useless cat! Quit ca-ca-catting around, kitty kitty.
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>>377148835
Reaper only shows up on the lowest floors available to you and he's so slow in 5 that you'll never find him by accident, unlike in 3. Reaper is also the primary method of exp grinding towards the end.
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>>377148835
The Reaper appears when you stay on one floor for 5 minutes. If you kill the Reaper, you have to move floors and repeat to make him spawn again.

The Flu Season tho
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>>377148947
>Lowest floors
For what purpose?
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>>377139425
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Honestly why couldn't I romance and then fuck the cat?
Seriously it would have been so cash, isn't she like the embodiment of humanity's hope or some shit or that's what real Igor said she's made fromlike damn that's gotta feel crazy on a ding dong.
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Why is Makoto so horribly miscasted in the Jap dub? She's supposed to be 17, not 30
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>>377144136
>Japanese VA
>adequate
LMAO
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>>377149782
>she
Anon, i hope you realize something...
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>>377149782
>She
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>>377149857
>every 17 year old has to sound like a young girl
I dunno how long it's been since you were around 17 year olds, but they're basically adults at that age, physically.
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>>377149949
>>377149952
I can play pretend and so can she.
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>>377150067
Or you can kill yourself, you degenerate.

>Zoophile AND homo

There's no hope for you.
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>>377150179
>kissing human girls
I'd say YOU'RE the degenerate here.
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>>377150179
nothing wrong with that, anything that can consent is k
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>>377149857
The Japanese version isn't a dub. Also,
>complaining about the original voices being miscasted, thinking that the dub is somehow better casted
That's not how it works.
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>>377152470
It works for Metal Gear Solid
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>>377152565
Which character has a miscasted voice?
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Morgana hissy fit was totally unnecessary

Ryuuji was just teasing like usual and he decided to take it as if everyone thought like ryuuji

Yeah, morgana is a drama queen
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>>377153379
>doesn't miss a single opportunity to call Ryuji pathetic or worthless
>get's assblasted when the same is done to him, once
>ironically, Ryuji is an essential party member while Morgana gets perma benched right after Makoto joins the party

I fucking hate this cat.
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If you didn't play this game with English dub you're a massive faggot that will never have sex with a girl
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>>377153887
The only use for morgana is media- skills

And even then, you could use MC

Patra skills are useless
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>>377154335
Morgana is 癒し系. He never left my party. The fights just wouldnt be as cute without him.
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>>377154010
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GO TO SLEEP

ARE YOU SLEEPING YET?
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>>377155337
Time to button mash
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>>377140715
M-masaka!?
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Honestly I'd play any game with a Japanese dub no matter where it came from.

The phonetics and flow of the language just tickles my eardrums unlike anything else
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>>377144257
I would if I could
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>>377155337
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>>377157584
Please, even Japs hate Japanese and prefer English.
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>>377157584
Jesus fuck.
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>>377157864
And Americans hate English and prefer Japanese. What's your point?
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>>377158034
What's wrong with what I just said?
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>>377158173
You need to step back for a bit and realize how weeb your statement is.
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>>377158340
It has no harsh sound like most European languages, how is that being weeb?
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>>377158469
>harsh
Explain.
Japanese is the pinnacle of harsh. Every sound has a strict syllable length. Lengthening any part of a word can drastically change it's meaning (like shujin and shuujin). Consonants don't flow easily as everything has a hard sound. It's not like Korean or English where you can have varying sounds for the same consonant based on phonetic blends or the like.
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mroww~
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>>377144012
don't they all
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i want morgana to be my boyfriend
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>>377160510
Morgana doesnt wear pants.
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>>377144713
He sees Ryuji as a possible rival probably because he was created to be Joker's guide and is doing everything to cement his position. Plays in with his desire to not be viewed as useless.
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sae is bae
that is all
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Can't wait for remix albums.
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>Missing out on glorious Sugita and Miyano
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>>377150067
>Hey, Joker, you should go to bed soo--
>W-why are you looking at me like that?
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>>377161102
I thought he saw Ryuji as a rival, because they were both obviously into Ann.
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>>377161487
>Ryuji
>into Ann

What? I mean, he likes her tits?
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>>377161486
>H-hey lets not do that today...please.
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>>377140352
みんな、お疲れ様!
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>>377142736
Pretty sure 日本語はwatashiわかりますka Would be more accurate but that isn't even full correct
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>>377145207
What a typical retard answer. The fact I won't stoop to your level of idiocy and self-hatred and actually acknowledge my superiority instead does not somehow make me the loser.
>uu-hhh, u can't claim ur better, that proves ur not
Says literal shitposter scum. Go join the fucker who promotes the
>if they kill me, I win
point of view and let normal people have decent discussion.
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>>377141645
this makes me think a LunaXMorgana doujin should exist
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>>377161429
5's OST sucks though. There are only like 3 good songs and a tonne of totally forgettable ones.
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>>377141359
>all star jap voice cast

vs

>shitty murrikan

I wonder too
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>>377163851
Name your 3 and then we'll add some more to the list.
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>>377142410
Most of the lines are something you can figure out if you played any other games with JP audio
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Madarame's palace seemed really short compared to Kamoshida's. Not to mention he wasn't really that much of asshole(compared to Kamoshida). I mean, not until the boss fight revelation.
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The great irony is that despite all the whining about dual audio, everyone played the dub
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>>377144332
>shitting on jesus

well, no
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>>377140715
then dont listen to any music other than in english either stay in anglosphere forever
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>>377164571
nope, never touched, never will
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>>377161484
Agreed
Sugita playing autists is always a treat
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>>377142734
Were you expecting mercy?
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>>377164571
Yeah I noticed that too. Finally proves what a bitching minority it was
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>>377142283
Didn't hinder my playthrough. Was that the best you could come up with?
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>>377164571
Never underestimate the extreme levels of autism from weebs.
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>>377161487
someone post the gym pic
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>>377164571
I honestly would've if it weren't for Sugita and Nana. People who are total purists are just faggots. Why can't people just try both and whichever one they like better, they stick with? I'll probably try the dub at some point, but the Jap dub does have some superiority (The way Caroline says Shujin is just great)
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>>377144136
Unless you are from Japan, you have to be absolutely retarded to think that.
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>>377166219
Whst gym pic?
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>>377140715
The language barrier covers up any potential shitty voice acting on their part.
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>>377164319
Standard battle theme, palace heist theme, Star Forneus theme.
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>>377164571
>everyone played the dub
[citation needed]
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>>377164571
I just couldn't play the dub, so many characters were downgrades compared to the Jap VA. Ryuji, Yusuke and Goro were good though. MC was fucking fan dub tier. Can't believe Atlus went from Catherine to this.

>missing out on YOSH, LEVUL UPPU
>URATURA CHARGEH
>OK OK, ME SPEKU JAPONESE
>ROBINFUDDO
>FUREZU
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>>377167070
So you'd prefer not understanding a damn thing over a few slightly stilted performances?
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>>377167379
WARE WA NANJI
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>>377167379
CAPTAIN KIDDO
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>>377167552
>Get Ryuji's persona upgrade
>Don't get to hear Miyano yell CAPTAIN KIDDO anymore
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>>377166970
I am only going to say this once.
Japanese VA sounds better because the emotion in the voice is 10000 times better conveyed than the cringefest english shit voices. Sure i understand english but english isn't my native language either. Why would i settle for fucking SHIT english voice acting when i can just have the ADEQUATE japanese voices?
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>>377166830
FukuJun as MC sold it for me. I never get tired of him calling out different Personas. He sounds just as excited about using Trumpeter as I am.
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>>377167552
Fucking Miyano, the only thing I can hear when he says that is in Setsuna.
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>>377167881
really makes you think
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>>377168125
Nah the japbros has said it was the same to the point where one of the quiz questions made no sense in english but was still included.
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>>377164571
>everyone played the dub
Trying to force this narrative doesn't really work when you had plenty of people discussing the Japanese dub and the archive is right there with all the threads.
Just try searching for Aoi or Aoi Yuuki and it will give you like a hundred replies.
Just letting you know, although you could always samefag some posts agreeing with you to make you feel better.
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>>377161484
Not to mention fucking Jouji Nakata
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>playing with ching chong audio
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>English VAs are really good
>Choose to play in Japanese
?
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>>377167775
Is Miyano a half?
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>>377167743
I'm going to say this again.
Unless you are from Japan, you have to be absolutely retarded to think that.
The tone in which Japs speak is completely different from Western society.
You have to be extra autistic to prefer conveyance of emotions differently from the way you've done it your whole life.
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>>377167881
>you can't rape a car
exhaust pipe
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>>377168392
>character can't pronounce his own name

Great example
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>>377167747
MC's awakening with FukuJun Arsene is fucking glorious. The dub just doesn't compare.
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>>377160840
Was the sequel released and scanned already?
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>>377167881
A car is fine too?
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>>377168460
Reminder that the VA's knew how to pronounce them but the directors told them to fuck it up.
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>>377168281
>the Japanese dub
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>>377168452
>exhaust pipe
lewd
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>>377168528
Whatever the reason may be it doesn't help the quality of the final product.
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>>377168472
What did the dub do with the awakening scenes? In the original you have the same voice actor voice both the character and persona because they are some of the best around and have the range to pull that off. I doubt that is the case in English.
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>>377168273
>to the point where one of the quiz questions made no sense in english but was still included.
Was it the shogi one?
There was a conversation about Hana joining the team, and Yusuke says something like "But flowers die out in autumn", felt like the joke was totally lost in translation.
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>>377168436
If they're doing a poor job of conveying emotions in a language that I am intimately familiar with, it's far more distracting.
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>>377168597
You mean Haru. Come on man, that was half of the joke you just pointed out.
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>>377168491
It was released and its available to everyone, but its not leaked.
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>>377168436
you are talking about a pseudo science

holy shit
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>>377168570
I suppose. But it's strange how people keep giving the English VA's shit and no one's giving the Japanese clients all this flack when they're the ones directly responsible for butchered pronunciations.
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>>377168436
Conveyance of emotion doesn't come from the fucking language you retard. It comes from tone and gruff.
It is more about the delivery of words rather than the actual spoken words. A burger would never understand i guess.
You have never had to watch anything in a different language so your brain has too little capacity to comprehend what emotion sounds like.
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>>377168753
>no one's giving the Japanese clients all this flack when they're the ones directly responsible for butchered pronunciations.

I don't understand. How are Japanese clients influencing the direction of the English dub, particularly to such minute detail?
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>>377168713
>available to everyone
Where do I get it then? I thought most nips didn't do digital releases.
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>>377164571
>everyone played the dub because I said so
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>>377167379
[muffled "GET READY!" in the distance]
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>>377168753
Despite what Ann's VA said, it's extremely unlikely that the Japanese branch of Atlus went and told them to pronounce shit wrong on purpose. What's far more likely is that Atlus USA's voice director is the one who told them to pronounce everything wrong, and he either fed Ann's VA that excuse when prompted, or Ann's VA made it up because there's no accountability in throwing blame at an unspecified culprit across the pond compared to directly blaming her coworker.
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>tfw you're starting to like The Stars and Us more than Memories of You and Never More
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>>377167070

P5's Japanese cast was almost all A-Listers though

>Jun Fukuyama
>Mamoru Miyano
>Nana Mizuki
>Rina Satou
>Aoi Yuuki
>Haruka Tomatsu
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>>377168690
Fucked up hard, I don't know why I've been reading her name as Hana this whole time.
Though the joke does work with both.
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>>377168890
Its on Booth for 6 bucks.
Itll probably leak in a week or so, I guess.
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>>377168832
https://mobile.twitter.com/ErikaHarlacher/status/841752349546704896
>>377168994
It's possible. But until we get more word on this, her tweet is only word on the matter we have.
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>>377169036
>Though the joke does work with both.
So it does.
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>>377169179
>https://mobile.
Fuck off.
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>>377169019
Don't forget Ikue Otani.
Though the the one that surprised me the most was Shuichi Ikeda.
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>>377168832
Are you familiar with how the first Resident Evil was dubbed? Maybe it was like that.
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>>377168617
But the way Japanese do it is completely alien.

>>377168746
What?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080305120850.htm
First link I found on Google.

>>377168795
>Conveyance of emotion doesn't come from the fucking language you retard. It comes from tone and gruff.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Someone who is not Japanese would not be able to fully understand it.
>A burger would never understand i guess.
Are you implying that I am American?
>You have never had to watch anything in a different language so your brain has too little capacity to comprehend what emotion sounds like.
I actually speak three languages.
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>>377166830
Sugita literally sounds the same as every role he's ever done and it's really good
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>>377169179
>https://mobile.
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What was his name again?
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As soon as the cast was revealed there was no other choice.

>Yusuke voiced by Sugita

This alone made Japanese Superior.
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>>377169508
A guy with a really easy name to pronounce.
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>>377169429
Bothered me until I watched Tokyo Encounter. Now I love him too much to care.
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>>377169508
sakaMOto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPcWIaX7PtU
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>dub

>Ryuji "sah-KAM-oto"
>Coach "kam-OH-shiduh"
>Ann "tah-KAM-akee"

FUCKING STOP

MY LITTLE BROTHER COULD SAY IT RIGHT
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>>377149443
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>>377169276
>>377169442
pls no bully
It was the first link I could find.
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>>377169379
>I actually speak three languages.
lmao

are you a br monkey?
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>>377164571
Speak for yourself faggot. Played with subs from day one.
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>>377169664
>the twins are Toyosaki Aki

HOLY FUCK THAT IS SOME ACTING
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>>377146980
being a double cuck in 2k17
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>>377140715
Im actually learning Nihongo, it helps listening to it.

Not that i have nothing against the english dub, Xander fucking Mobus is Akira and Ryuji´s VA performance is Top notch.
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>>377169664
>Igor is voiced by a keion
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>>377140426
What does this mean? It doesn't translate to anything meaningful in google.
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>>377170575
WELCOME TO THE FUWAFUWA ROOM
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>>377170638
as far as I can deduce it means "we took care of it" or something similar
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>>377161484
>>377168323
I dont recognize these names so I guess I didn't miss out on much when I played with dub

and not waste time downloading Jap
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>>377170638
I just interpret it as "This is our win"
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>>377169429
Sugita gets typecast a lot, like Koyasu and Nakata, but he can put on different voices when he's asked to. His acting is good though so I don't mind his tone often being the same.
>>
>>377170638
"This is our victory" or something more gramatically correct.
>>
>>377171060
lol
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>>377171264
He rules the shit out of his pigeon hole though.
>>
>>377170775
>Morgana originally planned to be latex wearing big hipped female cat.

I can tell why the design was dropped.
>>
>>377171471
I'm incredibly glad it was dropped
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>>377169664
>that cast
And /v/ wonder why most people demand dual audio.
Oh wait, this is /v/ they always makes retarded claim like "no one cares about dub because /v/ never discussed it"
And even in that statement, /v/ still wrong.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFU0upfcgTg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tth8RBM0Ol8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNqENeX9gKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbX2kOainRY
https://my.mixtape.moe/xncgil.webm
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>>377171234
>Cant recognize Jouji Nakata
Hes fucking Alucard, Kotomine Kirei and Diethard Reid m8
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>>377169664
God damn, Aki Toyosaki sure voices a lot of worst girls.
>>
>get Nana Mizuki
>no singing
wasted potential
>>
>>377171913
Jouji is cute
>>
>>377171995
Yeah, but she did voiced the best girls in P5.
>>
>>377171881
Why is she so short?
>>
>>377169664
>Yusuke is the same VA as Kyon
I should have known. And I just rewatched disappearance recently
>>
>mascot character voiced by ikue ohtani
ENOUGH
>>
>>377172528
all I could hear was gintoki to be honest
>>
>>377172372
>why is a Japanese woman short
That's like asking why is an American fat?
>>
>>377171913
To be fair, I've never played/watched subs unless it's the only option

I always opt for dub
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>All trophies except all personas
>Just need Hope Diamond and Crystal Skull
>Sheriruth 13 - Raining, Treasure Trap
>5 passes
>0 treasure demons
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>call my team the larpers
>it goes changes the name back to the phantoms

IT WAS DESHTINY
>>
>>377172848
>call team Ebin deebs:D
>still can't play the game in polish
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>>377169664
>not including Bratty Savior for Akechi
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>>377172372
https://my.mixtape.moe/fnifex.webm
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>>377172690
Even by moon standards Aoi Yuuki is a womanlet.
>>
YARU JA NAI KA
>>
>>377173614
He just said that as I read that.
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>Play jap dub
>Hear about Igor Seiyuu dying earlier and why his voice is replaced
>mfw I realized Atlus took advantage of this situation

I don't know about the english dub but this shit alone made the Nip one fucking amazing with the reveal.
>>
>>377172690
she's like 5'1 iirc
shes short even for nips
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>>377141082
ching chong gung
>>
I thought Goro's voice in the dub was perfect, is his jap voice better?
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>>377173969
>not realizing """igor""" was killing personas not fusing them the way he usually does.
>not realizing he wasn't keeping up with you and just spouting b.s..
>not realizing and expanding the twins story line.

Is this your first persona?
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>>377164571
>everyone played the dub
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>>377174612
Goro's voice was great it's just odd where %he has a sadistic look on his face that looks like he's screaming but he's still talking normally%

The English dub is great, but for some reason the japanese directors told the VAs to pronounce some names strangely.
>>
>>377141515

What's shitty about the localisation? It's incredibly faithful. I'm really happy with it.
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>>377176025
>the dub is great
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>>377176563
>anime reaction image

do you have anything worthwhile to contribute
>>
>>377142410

Yeah, it annoyed me how lazy they were with that stuff. Especially after being used to fansubs which go the complete other way.

Still, it was generally just incidental stuff, nothing that bothered me. Better than hearing them mispronounce everything.
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>>377169664
>Makoto shares a VA with Sex Hair

Can other girls even compete?
>>
>>377172848

I named my team after my MC. Trying the Ryuji Sakamoto "Hiding in plain sight strategy"

"Sir, we got a calling card from Akira Kurusu!"
"Grrr! We need to unmask those thieves!"
>>
Here's the universal rule about language in video games.

Play with the voice they animated the lipsync on. Whatever language is lipsynced is the primary experience that the devs focused first and foremost. It means that it was initially written in said language, and there would be no extra concessions taken to accommodate dubbing to lipsyncs.
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>>377140715
> implying
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>>377139425


今日はしません
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>>377168436

It bafflea me that there are people that can't pick up on foreign tones. Japanese people really don't use vocalization that's much different than our own.

Once you've heard it enough that it no longer sounds like random babble, it's no different than hearing something in English.

Hell, even in Korea I can pick up on how people are feeling when they talk and I've had no exposure to this language until two months ago.
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>>377143630

I never saw that coming.
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>>377176476
It's depressing that localisations have gotten so shitty these last few years that even something as liberal as Persona 5 is seen as "faithful" or even "literal" by people now.
Faithful compared to companies like Gaijinworks, 8-4, and Treehouse? Sure. Faithful by an objective standard? No.
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>>377176648
>anime reaction image
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I unironically enjoyed the dub. There were only a few questionable lines.
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>>377169379
>links to an article that has nothing to do with emotions conveyed through speech
Godamn, here's your (You)
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>>377180012
This is stupid, because some companies have redone the lip syncing for the western release, primarily Square and their FF games since 13. And 13 had a pretty shit dub, mostly due to dub Lightning completely changing the presentation of the character.

The universal rule is incredibly simple and applies to all forms of voiced media: Listen to the original voices, regardless of the language they are.
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>>377140715

>having a comfy P5 thread
>dubfag gets triggered over thousand folded nippanese.

You faggots are hilariously defensive holy fucking shit.
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>>377144303

based nips
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>>377181140
But he didn't respond, he just threw that out there, is this some sort of narrative shifting falseflag faggotry or are you simply upset?
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>>377146243

It's already summer anon, what else did you expect.
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>>377181346
>foreigners play bad games with murder!
>rape is featured in nearly every H game made in Japan and even some non h games


Oh you silly Japs.
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>>377181562
>Implying rape is worse than murder
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>>377164571

Couldn't be anymore wrong. I accidentally switched the audio to Burger when I was trying to make a 99 luck Shiki-Ouji. Nearly threw up because of how fucking disgusting the lolis sounded. You niggers must have ear cancer.
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>>377181686
It's still a very grotesque crime.
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>>377181751
Sure is. It's a good thing American porn never features it.
Oh wait.
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>>377181686
Rape is my fetish but I bet you a lot of people who've been brutally raped would've preferred death.
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>>377181686
>sticking your penis in someone who doesn't want it
>more grotesque than forcibly ending someone's life
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>>377181686
>scarred for life
>no life to live
Lifelong trauma is worse than death imo. Having to suffer/be reminded of it everyday versus just being dead? hm
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JOKAH DOW KE TAI SHO
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>>377181787
>porn is the same thing as H games
Now who's the retard.
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>>377181853
By this logic murdering a rape victim is a mercy killing.
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>>377181924
Americans also make porn games, you stupid motherfucker.
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>>377181956
Which is exactly why rape+guro is the best.
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>>377169179
Dumb phoneposter
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>>377181386

>implying

He was either A) baiting, in which case kudos to him and all those (You)'s he got. B) yet another anally devastated dubfag that gets triggered in every single P5 thread when someone posts one of the nip lines in the game. I frequent these threads almost daily and without fail it's always the dubfags that start shitposting about 'weebs' and 'autistic purist' etc.
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>>377181994
And how many of them are predominantly about rape? How many western H games can you name that are focused on rape? I can name quite a few Japanese games that are either about rape or allow you to rape the girl. I WISH there were more western H games featuring rape, I'm sick of kawaii girls getting all of it.
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>>377168917
Ann's get ready is really cute to me for some reason.
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>>377182104
You're projecting your insanity on to other people
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>>377167379
>missing out on YOSH, LEVUL UPPU
>>URATURA CHARGEH
>>OK OK, ME SPEKU JAPONESE
>>ROBINFUDDO
>>FUREZU
Sounds pretty homo. I'm guessing you disguise your homosexuality by discussing "feminine penis" as well.
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>>377167379
>MC was fucking fan dub tier
he was really fucking bad, yeah. hopefully hes replaced in the spin-offs.
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>>377182124
One of the most talked about western porn games on /v/ is that shitty one about keeping two girls in a rape dungeon.
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>>377182304
Yeah, one of them. Literally every major Japanese H game talked about on /v/ and /vg/ is about rape.
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>>377140715
This
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>>377182396
Forgot to add that it might be because /v/ is really into rape. Even Japanese porn has a lot of forced sex or women so submissive they might as well be forced. The Japs have an odd fascination with dominating their women.
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>>377181853
>>377181956
By this logic, telling someone something they didn't need to hear is rape, you raped minutes of my life off me, atone up.
Is 'school' as bad a rape? If it feels that way... it's real to me.
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>>377182669
You raped me with this comment, I'm calling the internet police right now.
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>>377182396
>Literally every major Japanese H game talked about on /v/ and /vg/ is about rape.
But Illusion's games are the most talked about Japanese eroge on /v/ and they either don't have rape at all or only have it as side content and not the focus.
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>>377176025

Asians have a habit of assuming westerners aren't capable of pronouncing eastern words. In Korea right now and this fucker introduces himself with the family name "rye ooh" and then everyone he knows calls him "ryu" correctly. When I said it he acted surprised that a westerner could say it.

Also the dub is terrible, but I only gave it an hour before giving up and changing it, so maybe it got better. My biggest problems were Sojiro and Kamoshida.
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>>377182986
I've got a character in Honey Select right now who hates my guts and cries when I use her. Even in the games where it isn't the focus its still in the game, like I already said.
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>>377183283
And even in Honey Select there is an entire mechanic involving raping the women until they submit and eventually love you JUST because you wouldn't stop raping them.
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>>377183161
>Asians have a habit of assuming westerners aren't capable of pronouncing eastern words. In Korea right now and this fucker introduces himself with the family name "rye ooh" and then everyone he knows calls him "ryu" correctly. When I said it he acted surprised that a westerner could say it.
You know, I had a Japanese exchange student living with me around ten years ago, and he was the same. His name was Ryu, my mother called him rye-ooh, and when I told her she was saying it wrong she asked if that was right he told her it was. I always assumed it was just because he was spineless, but maybe there's something more to it.
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>>377174612
I haven't heard him in English but his Jap VA is fucking great, really hits the highs.
https://youtu.be/U4kIZ20FbpU?t=3m
Played a really good role in Higurashi as well.
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>>377183624
>Played a really good role in Higurashi as well.
Shit, I should've picked that out when Goro sounded like a dying rat.
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>>377183161
Gooks are ignorant savages. Ignore them.
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>>377172848
>name my first run team Spooksters because not too original
>name my New Game+ team DemRowdyBoys
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>>377183668
Yeah I only realized it as soon as he started screaming.
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>>377141821
My real problem with english dubs is certain voice actors that are a recurring problem.
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>>377183376

He just thought she was incapable and not worth the effort. I've learned that asians are more apathetic than spineless. They just don't give a fuck.
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>>377148947
But that's fucking wrong
Mona tells you right from the get-go that you can't hang around a floor for too long or else the murder train will come and find you.
Granted, you have to hang around a floor for 5 minutes before he shows up.
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>>377161487
I thought Ryuji was gay
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>>377148947
>>377184364
You can find Reaper in every level except Rest areas, end areas, and the very first level you explore. All you have to do is idle ~6 minutes. Mona will say "i feel something.. be careful" and you'll hear his chains and red lights. He'll target you and come after you.
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>>377148947

I fought him near the final floor. I don't even thing he can spawn in the first couple. Waited 20 minutes and nothing but then he popped up in 2 minutes on the higher floors.
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>>377169664
I feel like a fucking retard for not noticing that Ryuji was Okabe.
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>>377169664

>top lolis share Momo-hime's VA.

My dick is diamonds.
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>>377169856
Except, you know, that's really how the pronounce it in Japanese.

Granted, it just kind of rolls together, but it really does sound like Sa-kamato.

Americans put so much fucking emphasis on the 'ka'.
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>game comes out
>play it the entire weekend nonstop
>get so burntout I can't continue
Haven't played in weeks, I got to the part where Adachi joins.
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>>377185164
Except that putting too much emphasis on the ka is only half the problem of the dub pronunciation, with the other half being that they rush the sa as "suh".
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>>377183161
>Sojiro
>not liking Jamieson Price
Get some taste, my friend.

I'll agree on Kamoshida however. His acting wasn't bad but the voice was miscast; he doesn't sound like a wannabe loser like he does in Japanese.
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>>377169856
>actually being this autistic
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>>377143445
This picture actually made me laugh. That fucking cat is so excited.
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>>377185696
Cool image of dem-eye find and fucky, a nanny moose.
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>>377169664
Huh, I never knew Mizuki Nana was Colette.
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>>377185624

I just felt that Sojiro sounded more aggressive than he was supposed to. In Japanese he's more just distant and annoyed.
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>>377185785
pic related
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>>377185993
Wheaty Reeder is my favourite horseman.

Do you see the problem now, faggot?
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>>377185993
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>>377185785
Blame the directors for instructing them to say it that way, not the voice actors. Matt Mercer for example has a pretty solid grasp on how to pronounce Japanese names but he still says them strangely because that's what they wanted.
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>>377185624

Kamoshida: I thought we got enough reputation from *stresses voice* MYYY volley ball team

Kamoshida in Japanese: I figured we got enough reputation from my volleyball team *shrugs*

Then Kawakami sounds fakely enthusiastic about it in English but in Japanese she sounds sincere but tired.

English VAs in anime style games always try to ham it up or just don't care at all. Very few VAs actually take it seriously and just give their voice to the character. They all want to stand out too much like that girl in high school reading outloud in class like she's on a stage or they just want to record the line and get their paycheck.
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>>377167379
HEY

HORUDO APPU
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Reminder that if you listen to japanese audio because "the voice acting is better" you are stupid and you think you're a lot smarter than you actually are.

"The english voice acting is bad/I don't like the performance in the english dub for x" is a valid argument. This makes sense because you speak the language the dub is in and therefore can tell when a line is poorly delivered, when inflections are missing, when accents and dialects are used poorly etc.

"The Japanese voice acting is superior!" is an absolutely moronic argument for the sole reason that you and your nincompoop little pea-brain do not speak the fucking language and therefore CANNOT POSSIBLY FUCKING KNOW HOW GOOD THE VOICE ACTING PERFORMANCE IS. You DON'T know Japanese and therefore DON'T know the PROPER way that lines are to be delivered. You have no FUCKING CONCEIVABLE WAY of knowing whether or not the performance is actually good or bad because you don't know what they're ACTUALLY saying. Subtitles will tell you the closest english approximation if they're good (and therefore will lose the essence of the japanese phrasing) or will translate directly if they're bad (and therefore will 99% of the time sound fucking retarded in english).

I'm so fucking tired of these 13 year olds who just discovered torrenting from nya and automatically assume they're somehow superior to other people for watching something in a language they don't know as if that makes any fucking sense at all.

TL;DR you're a fucking faggot and you should kill yourself at your earliest convenience
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>>377186626
It simply sounds better, you fucking nerd.
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>>377186626

>tfw know a half jap half american
>he also swears the Japanese dubs are better and mentions how terrible English ones are
>mentions how in Japan voice actors have to go to agencies and do vocal training and they're basically abused in order to make sure they can voice the roll perfectly
>meanwhile english voice actors unionized and made it so it's better to cast brand new nobodies fresh to the union because the few good ones cost literally millions to use.
>english voice actors don't even rehearse together most of the time, they just read their part of the script without even hearing the other characters in the conversation
>eastern voice actors actually hear the other dialogue, rehearse it away from the microphone in groups, and then go record

Japanese dubs will always be superior until the west gets its shit together. Animated movies do it like Japan and the quality difference shows. Anime and lower budget video games don't want to spend the money or time needed to make something sound good.
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>>377186318
We've been over this already.
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>>377186626
>You can't tell how good acting is if you're not fluent in the target language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRax5T6w34g
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>>377167775
This guy is cute
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>>377187536
>>english voice actors don't even rehearse together most of the time, they just read their part of the script without even hearing the other characters in the conversation
I was surprised to learn that none of the VAs for the original Xenoblade ever met each other, given that that actually had a good dub.
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>>377187536
Honestly, it's a matter of convenience for me--I'd rather not miss nuances because it's in a language I don't understand than have the 'superior' version.

Not yo mention, Ryuji's voice actor was actually really good, and I legitimately laughed at some of his deliveries. Mercer is a given.
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>>377185363
You're gonna love when the MC gets crushed by Izanagi and Yu replaces him
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>>377142407
>But it felt like they were pronouncing names wrong on purpose.
It's dumbfounding just how bad their pronunciation was of the simplest shit.
>>
How do you even start Haru's social link? She never texted.
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>>377142870
You read pages from right to left.

The language itself is either left to right or top to bottom.
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>>377188376
In October, I forget the day, you can find her on the school roof. It's the only link that doesn't auto start.
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>>377149857
She sounded 17 to me
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>>377167379
>Ann speaks in English to impress a cognition in Shido's Palace
>localized to speak slightly more formally
Ruined it
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>>377142410
>details
This game is written for children, it beats you over the head with every single plot point. There are no "details" that you can miss.
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>>377149857
what
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>>377188904
That's for the best, really. Imagine if they tried to have the dub VA speak in Japanese for that scene.
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>>377188376
This image looked retarded at first glance but the more I saw the better it got.
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>>377185164
>Except, you know, that's really how the pronounce it in Japanese.
No, it really, really, really isn't.

Each syllable in Japanese sounds the same all the time, with the exception of hushed vowels.

Example
NA: Kamo shee duh
JP: Kamoshda

It's not just emphasis, but also changing the pronunciation of certain letters based on their placement in the word, which is what you would do in English. Not Japanese.
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>>377189349
They left out all subtitles in the animated scene where the news announces that MC committed suicide in the lock up. You spend several minutes watching each character react to the news story as none of it is subbed.
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>>377186626
>you need to understand the language to gauge the quality of acting
You do know that the traits of a good actor have literally nothing to do with the language they speak, right?

Emotion transcends language you fuckin' autist.
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>>377189513
It could have been any other language.
Actually it'd be worse if she spoke Japanese, since the contention is that they are already Japanese.
In Senran Kagura, Shiki studies English, but the localization has her studying French instead.
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>>377189795
Okay well that is actually significant, I concede
>>
Subfags are subhuman compared to the glorious September 2016 masterrace.
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>>377188071

And for me I don't like losing nuances that the English text isn't sure how to translate. Things like female characters using masculine self pronouns can't translate to English.
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>>377190171
The point was more that if they had it as another language the dub VA would butcher it.
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>>377189795

You know they're talking about that, though. I do wish they subbed it, but you always know exactly what's being talked about on the TV.
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>>377188904

It's the same English phrase in the Japanese dub. She's just speaking like she's high class because that's the English expected in that situation.
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>>377185164

Sa ka mo to. Not sa kam o to.
>>
>learning a language just for videogames
Why tho?
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>>377140426
DAI SHORI. YEY~!
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>>377191350

>not naturally picking it up over time
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>>377155337
But I haven't finished this DVD and it needs to go back tomorrow.
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>>377191839
>tfw been watching anime for so long that I know japanese
>tfw I try to speak japanese to a japanese first language person they tell me I speak like an anime character
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>>377191839
>not absorbing multiple languages by osmosis
Seriously?
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>>377190797
There is nothing to indicate what's being talked about on TV in the first cutscene it happens, which Sae and the SIU head are watching.
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What level should I be for fighting against Shido?

Currently level 60, and my party gets burned out halfway through the 4th phase
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>>377193297

The one about the subway incident? It's just saying there was an incident. There's not some deep hidden message in the news. It's just a reporter saying people were injured/killed and that the incidents are being looked into.
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>>377193472

I did it around level 55 with no issue. Try a different team setup.
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>>377193472
Too thicc
Very unrealistic
Immersion broken
Would still bang
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>>377193578
Ok, but 1. we don't know that and 2. Atlus USA have no excuse for being too lazy to sub it.
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>>377193472
Your level is fine, hopefully you've equipped your party with SP Adhesives and didn't piss away the Mystery Stews you should have gotten if you've been making sure to buy shit off the TV every Sunday.
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>>377172848
Not naming them the Spookies
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>>377193715
>mystery stews
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck I didn't know those were a thing

And completely forgot about SP patches; guess i'll go mug some shadows for cash today, I guess.
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>>377193720
>tfw named my team "The Spooks"
>too scared about getting banned so renamed them "The Phantoms"
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>>377172848
>Named my team Diamond Dogs
>All dialogue just refers to them as the Phantom Thieves
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>>377193891
Well, it's okay, if you missed the stews you can always run Ann, Morgana, and Makoto for the battle and give yourself Mediarahan as well. Just make sure you have the SP patches because it's an endurance fight. Avoid using Somas here.
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>>377194152
Yeah, that's who i've been running; Just didn't know about the SP patches though, thanks for that
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>>377193681

Everyone can tell that's what it is. I agree they should have subbed it, but you're not actually missing information.
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>>377190023
someone sounding mad or not is only one tiny facet of the entirety of language and vocal performance

to say that "this guy sounds mad so it must be a good performance" is utter fucking retardation
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>>377194716
Everyone place your bets:

Who in the P5 cast will be blackwashed most often by Tumblr?
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>>377194824
>emotion is only the extremes and not the nuance of expressions in relation to context

Name one thing that comes with bad acting that is inherently linked to the language being spoken.
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>>377194892
MC = Asian
Ann = Transwomen
Ryuji = Black
Yosuke = Jewish
Makato = Islander Southeast Asian
Haru = Frizzy hair mulatto
Akechi = White
Morgana = Furry Pride
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>>377195058

Sojiro saying the news program didn't have anything to do with him like a dick.

In the East that's just a phrase they use to explain they haven't heard about something and had no reason to know about it. But in the English dub they treat it as him being a dick to his customers instead of just uninvolved.
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>>377195785
>blaming the actor for poor localization
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>>377195860

You asked for an example that was tied to the language. Some of the problems are the voice actors, some of the issues is localization. He could have said that line without using a dick tone of voice to the customers and it would have kept the disinterest instead of sounded like he wanted them to shut up.
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>>377196047
But that's not him being a bad actor.

It's him being fed bad lines, and the problem is 100% a localization issue, not a matter of acting.

He could act his ass off, deliver the line splendidly, and it'd still be a bad localization.
It has nothing to do with how he acted.
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>>377141359
I would actually do that if I could change the game's language. But then again, I'm learning Moon Runes.
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>>377195058
inflection, accents, and inflection to name a few

Phrasing and translation aren't directly faults of the actors but its some of the things you have absolutely no clue about without knowing the language.
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>>377196205
>accents, and inflection to name a few
These are universal aspects of all languages.

Other things like cadence, that's a part of acting.

And these are things that you can pick out. You can understand that a line is stilted in English, French, German, Japanese, anything.
Because a stilted line will have the same things wrong with it.
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>>377196163

I agree, but in the end it means the character was poorly voice acted. It just doesn't necessarily mean the voice actor did a poor job.
>>
EOP達自殺お願いします
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>>377164571
first play through dubbed
second play through subbed
made the 2nd play through feel fresh
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>mfw finishing Shido's palace
FUCK YOU RYUJI I WAS WORRIED
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>>377202669
>everyone kicks the shit out of him
What a great joke, Japan does it again!
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>>377185363
>played the game for 16 hours a day for 6 days straight
>feel like playing NG+ after that
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>>377143749
>t. Morgana
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>>377202669
i was worried that he'd survive
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>>377146127
>futaba
>loli
>one year younger than joker
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>>377203440
>Morgana does the same thing at the end of the game
>Keeps them waiting for months for the hell of it
>OH MORGY, YOU OLD GOOFBALL
>[group laughter]
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