Post your controversial gaming opinions. I would rather have

Kirby games aren't that good.

>>377126093
I played through Paper Mario 64 and found it kind of a chore. No idea why people here hold it up as some kind of turn-based RPG Holy Grail.

>>377126093
I'd rather have Rare make Donkey Kong 64-2

Mario kart wii is the second best game in the franchise, and all of its problems can also apply to 8

Bloodborne is overrated

Grabbed by the Ghoulies was good. GOOD

Golden Sun is a very good game, as is its sequel.

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Overwatch is a good game.

Dark Souls 2 was a perfectly fine game.

Heroes of the Storm is fun

>>377127424

It absolutely was not

>>377126485
Kirby has always felt shitty to control to me.

Super Paper Mario was better than Thousand Year Door. The non-RPG thing let me move along in the story at a faster pace and the story itself is the best of any Mario game, ever.

>>377127327
he said controversial.

Rare was an overrated developer.

>>377128172
Conker's Bad Fur day isn't funny anymore. Maybe it was funny once upon a time, but not anymore.

>>377126093
I enjoy playing weeb games on my vita.

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>The Dark Souls series is just average at best
>Steam is doing more harm than good to the gaming industry
>Character-based team shooters like TF2 and Overwatch are garbage
>Shadow of the Colossus needs a direct sequel
>I want a Hexen reboot

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Kero Blaster is more fun than Cave Story.

Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time was the best M&L game. The items didn't take a fucking year to clear their attack animations, the story and writing is the best in the series, and anyone who couldn't navigate four buttons to jump need to git gud. Also, there should absolutely be a sequel, but set in the future.

>>377126093
That's not controversial.

Fuck Metroid fans.

>Xenoblade Chronicles is trash
>The sequel,, X, has much better music
>Skyward Sword is better than Breath of the Wild

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Kino Splash is better than The Thousand Year Whore

>>377126093
I like using Reno Jackson

>>377128703
I really have to play through TTYD again before I decide. I really like both, but I do think I agree with you.

>>377127779
Literally figuratively this.

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>>377128642
>Mario game set in the future
Will never happen, but hell yes

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>>377128690
>Cody: " Xenoblade Chornicles, a pre-2010 game, is a SnK ripoff"
what he mean by this

>>377126093
sticker star is fun

>>377126093
Diversity is good. I want my robot protagonists, my skeleton protagonists, my alien protagonists, and my lesbian protagonists.

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I want to be Candy.

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>>377128965
>no gay skeleton protagonist

>>377128431
>>Character-based team shooters like TF2 and Overwatch are garbage
As much as I love TF2 and dirty bomb, and somewhat overwatch, but just for the Australian duo and mccree, character shooters are actually awful in terms of balancing and can be fucking dreadful to play at times. Shit like cod where you spawn as the same dude but with a different load out is easier to balance.

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This is one of the better Zelda games

All the OOT clones (WW, TP, SS are the weakest games in the franchise.

The direct sequels are the best games in the franchise (MM, ALBW) and I really hope we get a sequel to BOTW or the DLC fills that niche.

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>>377128846
>Junior, not looking more like his dad

Anyway, I think RTSs didn't die because of MOBAs, they died because no one was making good ones anymore.

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>>377129328
WW was a huge disappointment for me because I thought that they were going to continue the hero of time Link's story from MM. The lack of direct sequels in the Zelda series in general is pretty disappointing.

>>377126485
I agree, Kirby games are just OK at best and garbage at worst.

>>377127779
I don't know if it was better than TYD overall but people that say it wasn't a fucking great game most likely haven't played through it and are just butthurt it's not the same RPG style the other games were. And yes it does have the best story of any Mario game, though there's not much competition there.

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Sonic Adventure 2 is fucking good.

Fuck you, I thought Sonic Heroes was pretty good. Not fantastic, but I had fun with it.

ps2 is overrated as fuck

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The 3D Metroid games are far better than the 2D games, especially Super Metroid.

>>377130771
This

Dreamcast>Gamecube>Who cares?

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>>377126093
I don't find them that controversial myself, but I don't hear them a lot so here goes.

>FFXIII and its sequels are miles better than XV.
>Banjo-Kazooie is mediocre and Tooie is shit.
>Skyward Sword is a good game.
>Sonic Heroes is terrible, and worse than Sonic Adventure.

>>377127779
Super is even worse than sticker star

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>>377126093
BOTW was kinda bad

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>>377129380
I like the idea of Junior being a slightly gentler, more soft spoken version of his dad.

Sonic Adventure is vastly superior to 2.

The only 3D Zelda games I ever liked are Majora's Mask, Breath of the Wild, and Wind Waker, and I only really like Wind Waker for the aesthetics and fucking around exploring the Great Sea, but for exploration BotW blows WW the fuck out of the water anyways so I doubt I'll ever go back to it.

Kirby hasn't had any standout games since Canvas Curse, all the spin-offs after it are straight trash except for Rainbow Curse's soundtrack, Squeak Squad's only redeeming factor is it controls nicely, Return to Dream Land is mediocre straight through, and the 3DS games are both really good in one department each but then range from trash to painfully mediocre in every other area, with the worst part of the last three being the controls feel really poor in all of them even compared to say Kirby 64.

The Galaxy games are the least good 3D Mario titles, being a weak mesh of 64/Sunshine's open course style and the 2D course clear style that 3D Land and World tackled better. But they're still good.

Pretty much all the Pokemon games people say are amazing, like HGSS, Platinum, and BW2, aren't quite that amazing and most of the ones people say are unredeemable shit, like DP and XY, are at least decent. In particular, a common opinion I see of DP being unplayable shit but Platinum being the best in the series comes off to me as a total nonsense statement.

The only good Star Fox is the original on SNES. If they make a new Star Fox again, they should just remake it with the same visual style and everything plus some bonus levels as a download title.

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>>377126093
Kirby should've stuck with combination abilities like in Kriby 64 in order to give future games more variety. Imagine combining new abilities to make better ones. They just needed to polish the level design so that it's more than just a straight line, and maybe change up some of the combo moves like the one where Kirby just runs around with his head on fire.

>>377132435
>a common opinion I see of DP being unplayable shit but Platinum being the best in the series comes off to me as a total nonsense statement
Confirmed for literally having no idea why this is the case.

>Kirby 64 controlling good
Your whole post reeks of cancer

Not really an opinion but I never beat Majora's Mask. Beat every other 3D Zelda, but for some reason I had a little trouble getting into the Stone Dungeon or whatever the last one of the four was and just never came back to it.

A Link Between Worlds is not an exceptional game. The datedness of A Link to the Past's design was carried over. I legitimately think that the only reason the game is so well regarded is because people are nostalgic for alttp.

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continuing the zelda train, putting permasaves into majora's mask 3d was a good-ass move and saved the game for me

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>>377126093
Futaba is unironically best girl to me.

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>>377134354

"Old Nintendo" doesn't exist. It's a made up fantasy created by nostalgia.
There is no new or old Nintendo, it's always the same Nintendo. The same Nintendo that makes good games and yet also big mistakes.
They did it in the past, they do it now, they will do them in the future.

>>377134354
>never beat Lttp
>thought ALBW was better
>Lttp did have some lame parts which made like it less like a boss fight where you just mash attack when you enter the room and some dungeons just weren't interesting or were only difficult because of some obtuse puzzles

i like zelda ss a lot

>>377126485
Kirby was never good.

>>377134982
Same

>>377135117
you like fi?
i love it

The worst 3D platformer I ever played is still better than the best 2D platformer I ever played.
The Jak games and Crash: Wrath of Cortex are tied as the worst 3D platformers I've ever played while Tropical Freeze was the best 2D platformer I ever played. This isn't a knock against Tropical Freeze. I just think 3Dplat > 2Dplat.

Puzzle platformers are tied with Metroidvanias as the worst kind of 2D platformer.
Collectathons shouldn't even be classified as platformers.
Sly 3 is the worst in the series. Sly 4 was better than Sly 2. Sly 1 is the best.

>>377133404
Platinum is clearly a notable improvement, with the various changes to enemy teams, wild Pokemon encounter tables, and the additional content. But to call it a 10/10 best entry while DP is a completely unplayable sin on earth astounds me when the core of the game with the usual central mechanics and the game world itself is the same at the end of the day. The speed argument in particular doesn't ring with me, I played both in a row not long ago with it in mind and other than the speed the EXP bar climbs at when receiving large amounts or Surf speed, it felt largely the same. It's definitely not like the jump between any two given generations.

64 already has control issues, aerial movement feels like total garbage in it regardless of whatever intentions they had. The games in the RtDL engine never get as bad as aerial movement in particular is in 64, but everything feels delayed in it. Like it wants to be snappy and hectic like Super Star or the games in the NiDL engine, but they just couldn't get there and never bothered to fix it in the later ones. 64 meanwhile, aerial issues aside, feels like it was made with its slower pace in mind. I could probably word my opinions on this better.

Console gaming is an absolute necessary evil.

Persona 5 is the worst modern Persona game and mostly a disappointment. The most popular girl(Makoto) is the most bland female in the entire series.

Nier is a terrible game with terrible mechanics and gameplay, contrived story, and good music.
I haven't played the sequel.

>>377138143
>I haven't played the sequel.
75% of the people who played the sequel didn't play the first one.

>>377138369
I heard its better but god that game left me upset after I finished it. Like that's it? Fuck man. I'll wait a year or two.

I'm trying to play through DMC1 for the first time right now and it's so fucking dated and not fun, I don't think I can force myself to finish it

>>377138846
A shitty camera in a brawler will do that to you.

Virtual Novels are not games.

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Dark Souls 1 is my least favorite game DS game. Haven't played DeS, likely never will; dunno though.
I struggle to play older games like Baldur's Gate and Fallout 1 & 2 because the dated graphics turn me off so bad.
Rocket League is the most unfun game I've ever played tbqh

>>377126093
Pokemon games are fine the way they are. You pick up a Pokemon game to play Pokemon, not something else.

Quest compasses are good.

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I believe quest markers serve open world RPGs well. Every time I try to play Morrowind, they give me some vague as fuck directions and I'm on my own. If I wanted to wander around aimlessly for a few hours, I'd go on a walk. I'm not gonna walk around for a half hour to then start playing the game. Quest markers are there as suggestions. You are aware of it on the map, but you can also wander wherever you want to explore, then easily return to the quest at hand

>>377141193
At the same time, quest markers make me feel like a dumb ass a lot of the time. I like when they tell me things like it might be close to this place, or to remind me who gave me the quest. Figuring things out for yourself is an important part of the experience.
In Skyrim especially every quest is often just walk to the little arrow and you will finish the quest. Sometimes you fight bad guys. That totally sucks.

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I like Borderlands.

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>>377126093
That's not controversial. After Tropical Freeze I also hope they are working on more DK, especially if David Wise comes back to do the music.

>>377141757
Yeah, I feel you. There's definitely a healthy midpoint that needs to be reached with quest markers, with discretion placed on "Will this player really need this objective stated to them?". I just lose interest very quickly when I have no clue where I am, but you could also chalk that up to the oftentimes dated graphics of games that do not use markers. I'm a giant autist when it comes to graphics

>>377129380
Grown up BJ is a qt

>>377126093
Adults with jobs can't enjoy collectathons
Sonic Adventure 2 was objectively a fun game
Gran Turismo is a terrible simulator
GameCube controller is comfortable
Nintendo is dead
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was better than the first even without baby groot

>>377126093
That's controversial? Returns is good and Dong Freeze is amazing.

>>377126093
I think that Other M created a lot of artificial demand for a new Metroid game, and that the series simply should have ended with Prime 3.

>>377126880
Why don't people like DK64? Other than the backtracking.

Xillia 2 is the best Tales game. Zestiria is better than Berseria.

>>377142990
>Dong Freeze is amazing.
I think most people on /v/ would agree.

>>377142814
SA2 is a GREAT game, and I think almost everyone likes the GameCube controller.

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I want Miyamoto to have one more chance at StarFox before he quits for good.
As much of an unmarketable mess Zero was, I still enjoyed the shit out of it overall. If its sequel had an original story and controls that don't encourage schizophrenia, it could be the best fucking game in the franchise.
So yeah, StarFox Switch and Pikmin 4. I want him to at least make those before he truly retires.

>>377130396
It has some of the best and worst moments from the franchise in the same game. While the good moments are memorable its hard to call it good all the way through

PC gaming is dog shit in every aspect

Mario & Luigi series>Paper Mario series

>>377126093
Collect-a-thon platformers are for autists. It's a shit genre and it died for a reason.

Online gaming is a waste of time

>>377126513
atmosphere(nostalgia)

>>377126093
Dark Souls 2 is good
Destiny is fun
Old games with dice based combat are all bad, no exception

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Sun and moon are the best games in the series

>>377126093
Halo: Reach has the best multiplayer in the series

>>377144840
t. Shooter shitter

>>377145308
>>377127424
I liked DS2 as well, especially multiplayer, it has the best MP in the series

Old school wrpgs like planescape, Baldur's gate and Fallout have aged horribly and are pretty bad in all honesty.

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OSRS is better than any mmorpg released in recent years. It has so much soul and it's so comfy. I only picked it up for the first time last year so I'm not nostalgic over it

Most of the Dark Souls boss fights suck. Bed of Chaos is one of my favorites.

Game franchises are a flawed concept, and game designers shouldn't make "Mario X" or "X with Y" or "The Dark Souls of X". Games should be games. We don't have Baseball II or Monopoly II. Baseball isn't "The Soccer of America".

Blind loyalty to anything because it's got the name of something else you like on it is completely stupid

Diablo 3 and Reaper of Souls isn't as bad as the community makes out, and Blizzard dumping the AH and RMAH was a great idea.

Arena shooters are fun but incredibly overrated, maybe because the community rivals Smashfags and DOTArds in terms of autismo.
>>377147190
>Blind loyalty to anything because it's got the name of something else you like on it is completely stupid
That's common sense, not controversial.

>>377128431

>>I want a Hexen reboot

I think I love you anon.

>>377126093
It feels that Mario is holding gaming back since everyone and their mother try to copy the legit stale gameplay.

>>377126880
HE HAS NO STYLE

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>>377126093
OP is a man with taste, the Retro DKCs are some of the finest platformers I've ever played.

>>377147807
What games have come out in recent years that try to imitate the Mario formula? I'm craving something like mario galaxy.

>>377147491
And yet so many people blindly follow political parties

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>>377148339
Ideology is a helluva drug, famdongus.

>>377149115
thats a sexy donut

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>>377149209
Thanks.

>>377144694
truth

>>377126093
I want Ridley on the Smash Bros roster.

>>377149115
>>377149307
>not orange or banana
Do you even ponut?

>>377127779
Super was a fun game. TTYD was fun as well. They are both as good as eachother and i couldnt give a shit aout which direction theyd have chosen to go with but instead we got sticker star

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Banjo-Kazooie > Mario 64

We need more games with properly done transexual characters
By that I mean no tumblr SJW pandering shit of course

>>377151353
Why? I mean as a side character I get it but its such a niche and controversial topic for a main character, its just gonna alienate most of your audience and stir up unnecessary controversy.

Diverse casts of characters can be a good thing in video games so long as their diverse traits re relevant to the story and the story itself is well written. (e.g. Gone Home and other similar games are dogshit because their stories were poorly written and the gameplay was so lacklustre.) To ensure the best experience for everyone, the industry should be sure not to typecast any one particular social/biological group as the 'bad guy', we all have our faults, we all have our merits.

But I think diverse casts should go beyond just different races, creeds and sexuality. I agree with this anon, >>377128965 . We need more slightly outlandish protagonists.

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Dragon Age is unironically my favourite series ever.

>>377152980
Morrigan porn is pre good
>tfw Morrigan from Darkstalkers won't mind break Morrigan from Dragon Age

>>377126093
I think that's just an intelligent and non fanboy opinion anon

I want Kamiya to make the next DMC, but I'd rather a new good Ninja Gaiden or Viewtiful Joe

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>Diverse casts of characters can be a good thing in video games so long as their diverse traits re relevant to the story
Diverse characters should definitely be well written instead of just being 'the gay character' and making the game look shit as a result, yeah. But shouldn't sexuality, race, whatever be less relevant to the story? Like in an rpg, maybe have one character in the party who is bisexual and normalise it by just putting that fact in a bonus fact-log, instead of making it super relevant to their backstory.

>>377126093
When you take into consideration the hax, unbalanced weapons, RNG at certain distances regardless of your crosshairs, retarded gimmicks like spray patterns and slowing down when shot, and the r/4chan community, CSGO is an absolute joke and a bad game

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>>377149657

>>377126093
I like Skyward Sword

>>377142064
I don't get why developers can't have a Morrowind-esque directions as well as an option to toggle waypoints for those who want that. Then everyone would be happy.

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I loved Sonic Color and it was my favorite game that year. i was excited for generations and when it came out i was sorely disappointed. Generations feels floatier and controls like shit, its only good for stupid fucking flash in the pan mods on pc. Even the goddamn platforming felt off, its a shit game. Hell I think Lost World is better game throw all the bad webms at me i don'tg give a fuck. Sonic forces looks like shit.

Fuck Generations.

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>>377126485
They are good, but the series gets treated like a showstopper when it's really just fun every once in a while. Nothing great most of the time.

>>377126513
It's all nostalgia, it's good but far from great and inferior to SMRPG, M&L SS and TTYD in almost all ways.

>>377126880
It's a very underrated title and the character specific-ness could definitely be handled better in a sequel

>>377126908
What's your favorite? Mine is still MK DS

>>377127067
As is the series, I only liked Demon Souls, I've tried playing Dark Souls multiple times

>>377127210
This, played them both out of curiousity since Project M was supposedly going to add Isaac when it was still being worked on. I liked the first better though.

>>377127779
Would have to play both again but you're probably right. The story was better and I liked the mechanics a lot; most people just have an aversion to it because TTYD was so much better than 64 so they wanted a third entry and not a 'hybrid'

>>377128172
>>377128336
Unfortunately, but I still find it funny at key parts.

>>377128431
Correct
Correct
Mediocre, but can be done better if they weren't directed at casuals
Agreed
Top tier taste

>>377154658
I agree. We'd have daily ">playing with waypoints on" threads though

>>377126093
I feel that Steam with its substantial and frequent sales has seriously shifted players' perspective for the worse, to the point where a game is only worth half or less its price tag, no matter how much it actually costs

Final Fantasy XIII is decent.

>>377128642
I still like SS slightly better, but it gets waaay too much hate. I loved the items personally; wish the game were a bit more difficult

>>377129269
>i bet you have a bone for me <3
I need this

>>377129328
My hero

>>377130396
It's very up and down if you're not already a sonic fan, I got all the costumes...twice

>>377130597
It's the Super Paper Mario problem

>>377130771
This, also the last gen where consoles are relevant as anything besides a way to play games you like

Dark Souls is a shitty series. It isn't hard for me, I never had difficulty playing it. But it's slow as hell and feels awful to play, which is why people get impatient and then find it hard because of that. Making your game fucking slow and awful to play doesn't make it hard, it just makes it a shitty game. Also, the extreme darkness in most areas is unpleasant to play with and hurts my eyes.

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>>377126093
Fallout 4 is a great game, even better than new vegas.

>>377128965
I feel that a creator's vision's integrity is more important than diversity

>>377126485
They're comfy games when you want just a simple story, but the way /v/ treats kirby is like a deep platformer with DEEPEST LORE.

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>>377131117
Objectively yes, but I like Super more than MP. Fusion is my favorite 2D, Echoes is my favorite 3D

>>377131247
Correct
Both good, both have the same problems
It is, still a weak Zelda title; as are TP and WW.
Incorrect

>>377131424
Mediocre

>>377131881
Big the Cat, mission mode

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>>377129328
My man. People really exaggerated the "non-linearity" of the trains, and I still find spirit Zelda one of the better incarnations.

Also this guy is probably my favourite Zelda character.

I honestly think Assassin's Creed 1 and 2 were one of the highlights of last gen

>>377156084
Kirby has a lot of fun mechanics to mess around with for good arena times and legitimately intricate lore that calls back to games from 10-20 years ago.

Sure, most of them have never been groundbreaking in any way, but there's something to be said about a series whose games are consistently high quality and acknowledges its long time fans in an age where Nintendo likes to pretend most Mario spin offs don't exist.

Speaking of Mario, here's a good controversial opinion: Super Paper Mario is great because Paper Mario is a style of game, not a gameplay genre. SPM captured the unique characters and worlds and hilarious writing that made the first two PM games good, and the absence of that is the main reason why Sticker Star and Color Splash are bad. Their gameplay systems are still incredibly flawed, but that would be excusable if they retained the Paper Mario style.

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>>377132964
>Never owned an n64
>Go to a friend's house, see the "New" Kirby game
>Get hyped at the combo abilities and wonder when they'll add them to the portable kirby games
>mfw that day never came

I didnt think BloodBourne was all that good and ive spent by far the most time in Darksouls2 then any other in the series

>>377141979
It's controversial to Metroid fans who think Retro's sole purpose is to make Metroid games.

>>377128915
boy that was a good read.

>>377131247

>Sonic Heroes is terrible, and worse than Sonic Adventure

This is a controversial opinion? I thought most people agreed that Sonic Heroes is worse than the Sonic Adventure games

>>377147190
This

Yooka Laylee and MN9 of when people care about the idea of a game more than anything. People just wanted to recapture Banjo Kazooie and Mega Man, and look where it got them.

>>377132964
very much agree. cutter and bombs for exploding ninja stars was my favorite.

>>377126093
I'll take it one step further.

I hope Retro is making an open world 3D Donkey Kong game akin to DK64 but with a cyberpunk/technology theme.

>>377157590
>I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN IT'S JUST A HEALTHY SHEEN

>>377126093

Star Ocean 4 was the best JRPG of its console generation

Accuracy and ease of controls and UI is the most important factor in vidya quality

The best Dragon Quest is 4, and the accents are cool

There is literally nothing wrong with fan service as long as its not the foundation of the game. If the game itself is solid, lay on the TNA, callbacks to previous games and remastered music

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>>377132435
>zelda for exploration
Stick to MMO's

>canvas curse and kirby 64 are highlights
U wot m8

>weakest because they're hybrids
That's their point

>DP and XY ftw
People judge Pokémon games for mon variety, pacing and world structure. Both of these games are mediocre in these regards and try nothing different like the BW series did; even their sequels are significantly better.

>remake it retro style
If they make a new one they should make it a prequel where you get to choose who you play as; get a light character specific ending and choose to enable custom stats to ships. You can pick between James, Peppy, Pepper, Pigma and rookie Falco, Kat and I forget the other chick's name. All vehicles should be playable, potentially on each stage. Maybe even infantry mode like in Assault but make it play like a light gun game with dodging and Sin & Punishment sequences for massive groups and bosses. Include 3 difficulties at start so no one bitches about one route being too hard.

You could even make a sequel and have the story unfold similar to Crisis Core does in relation to FFVII

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>>377126093
>Kirby was never good
>Megaman was never good
>Zelda was never good
>Games will almost never be truly great, unless you are in a mental state where full escape is possible (aka, a child or autistic), (Also, can count depression; when I was depressed I enjoyed games more.)
>Most popular IP's are still banking on nostalgia and fail to have anything new or good going for them
>Nintendo needs to fuck off from consoles and focus on games
>Mindless COD like games aren't that bad, as that is their sole purpose for existence.
>MMO's are can be just mindless as COD, but suffer from autistic fans who have an air of superiority and knowledge from playing it.
>Esports should never become a thing
>Metroid is dead, and anything they'd try to release will never be enough
>Half Life is dead, and anything they'd try to release will never be enough

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Bravely Second was a superior game to Bravely Default in all metrics except soundtrack. and most of Default's soundtrack is in Second.

that includes fairy quality

>>377128431
it has a direct sequel, Ico

(Spualer) I really want a Switch (Spoielar/)

>>377129725
I enjoy that you get to enjoy every entry as a different retelling of zelda conventions. With that said, I can see the complaint of have the stories, characters, and locations so disjointed from eachother

>>377133986
I stopped at the same point and came back to it later that year. I've only beaten it start to finish once.

>>377134354
This

>>377134496
Agree

>>377134717
I have a crush on my friend who is just like her. I was rock hard while she was working on her confidant.

>>377134934
This

>>377126093
i liked video games

So would I, but only because the Prime series was disgustingly overrated with scanning completely eviscerating the pacing of the game and removing any drive for them to prioritize environmental storytelling. I hope to fuck the next game is 2D.

>Hate DMC1 almost as much as 2
>I have 800h in skyrim with 2 nords named the same making the same choices, Morrowind's gameplay is dated
>Really like Serious Sam 2 and Smash Brawl
>Everything about JRPGs is tedious
>3S is the best Street Fighter
>PS2 is the best console

Sonic and the Black Knight, was the last good Sonic game.

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>>377146715
infinitely correct

>>377160370
>3S is the best street fighter
Anyone with half a brain agrees.

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Pic related is the only good Paper Mario game

Taking damage from touching enemies is a horrendous mechanic that should have disappeared 20 years ago. Still including it isn't a throwback and tradition, it's laziness. The same goes for random encounters.

VNs are only beaten out by text messages or twitter as the worst possible way to read large pieces of text.

Half Life is SHIT. It's god awful. Trial and error gameplay, shitty ladder physics, AI that's braindead, cutscenes that will play when out of range, I could go on. If you like it, you probably live in your mother's basement.

HL2 is better, but it's mediocre.

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>>377162129
thanks lad

>>377158236
Canvas Curse isn't a highlight, just the last overall okay game. 64 is only a highlight here because I needed a well known example of poor controls in the series.

And DP and XY are still weak and bottom tier, as are the topmost games the topmost. They're just not ungodly bad, or godly good like many fans treat them.

>Pokemon XY

by far my favorite setting, best set of gym leaders since Gen 1 and I fuckin love fairy types

>>377155884
OP said opinions, that's just a false statement.

>>377158236
>>377163650
Also I totally understand your thoughts on the importance of those elements in the games, that's part of why I don't really get people saying Platinum is GOAT but DP is pure garbage when the world is pretty much the same between them, but for Pokemon variety XY has the largest spread of available Pokemon in the series. That's one of the few good points it has.

Aside from quasi-art titles like Ikaruga and Radiant Silvergun, bullet-hells aren't any actual fun. It's like Dark Souls without any of the charm.

Star Fox is boring and having the keep up with the other 3 pilots just makes it frustrating, they hardly do fuck all for you

>>377151353
>>377152174
properly done transsexual characters would mean that they are vain, irritable, obnoxious, post-suicidal and post-moral, unstable, and any and all other forms of love-to-hate

which, providing that they are justifiably antagonistic to the main characters plights, would make a very fun game to play

Primes > pre-GBA 2D Metroids

say this in a Metroid thread and you're guaranteeing yourself for shitposting

Imperials are in the right. Stormcloaks are shit

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>>377158590
Anne needs her daily dicking

>>377166987

too bad she's actually about the size of Kaiser Oblivion's index finger

>>377167190
she can fit. trust me

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>>377129269
That pic embodies my highschool experience.

>>377126093
Overwatch is the best shooter in recents years

dark souls isn't the least bit challenging after like an hour or two, and that's if you're new. if you've played all the games and you're having extreme trouble with the new one (like people did in the first BB area), what the fuck are you doing? goober

megaman was never that great anyway. 1 and 2 are good but 3 and 4 are criminally bad. 5 and 6 just barely pass. 9 sucks, 10's good.

megaman x1 is the only good megaman x

the nintendo switch's design is so terrible all-around that it's comical. practically every single aspect of it is a failure.

modern fps is better than ever and better than all the old shit

capcom hasnt made a good fighter since third strike except maybe UMvC3, but that's kinda just dumb fun.

MK9, MKX and Killer Instinct are the greatest non-anime fights to come out in recent memory.

otherwise KoF14 and whatever the new version of GG is are the best in general.

dark souls 3 is just as bad as 2, but for different reasons. one thing they both share though is they sure are forgettable.

breath of the wild is pretty run-of-the-mill open world game with a few zelda things in it. it gets pass because it's zelda. not a bad game or anything though

writing in video games is terrible. in all of them, really. even the best video game story (like TLOU as some people would say) doesn't even measure up to B-movie writing. it's worse than every other medium in writing/story, and the one thing it could do differently with storytelling is almost never utilized (storytelling via mechanics, like portal)

undertale, life is strange, five nights at freddy's and to a lesser extent night in the woods are all memegames. NITW is the only one i listed that i wouldn't consider irredeemable garbage.

anything by bethesda is fundamentally terrible. same for bioware. yet obsidian outdid both of them, and very easily.

pokemon is good and the formula doesn't need to change that much, though SM is a breath of fresh air. don't try to fix what isn't broken.

aliens vs predator 2010 is the only good alien or predator game ever made. probably forever.

metroid prime was ok but it's overrated. republic commando is a better game desu.

wind waker sucks, majora's mask is the best zelda, OoT is good but majora does everything better. TP gets too much hate, it's pretty good. wolf sucks though. SS is garbage. everything else is ok.

sonic was shit until 3D.

mario was great until 3D.

littlebigplanet 1-3 are fantastic games and I would rather play them over mario desu.

people praise mass effect 1 and 2 but they're just as shitty as any other bioware game. 2 especially. nothing else needs to be said about 3 or andromeda.

VR could've been a cool, great thing but it's been completely squandered and likely won't recover.

water levels are cool most of the time.

lava/volcano levels are the most braindead shit ever.

final fantasy went from good to meh once 3D came. ff7 is super overrated and 6 is the best in the series.

chrono trigger, however, is better than any ff game ever made and is probably one of the greatest games of all time.

halo 4 was good. reach and ODST were the best in the series.

ps4 is the only good console currently out, but it's pretty pointless if you already have a PC.

ace of spades was better once jagex got it.

every monster hunter game except the one on wii u is terrible and gay.

oblivion > morrowind > eating a big turd > skyrim

bayonetta 1 and 2 are better than any DMC game.

vanquish is overrated.

star fox 64 was the only good star fox game and i don't see why people care anymore. that kind of game is the only way star fox could be done without sucking. they even tried to do that on wii u but it sucked anyway hahahaha

there is literally nothing wrong with eceleb threads on this board. the only solution to the "problem" would be to make an internet culture board, but that will never happen forever.

telltale is one of the worst offenders for the current state of the gaming industry. all they can shovel out are mediocre interactive movies and people eat it up. they're so fucking terrible they can't even update their engine.

gta v > iv > vice city > san andreas > 3

borderlands 2 is good if you mute it.

destiny is one of the worst games of this generation, second only to the order 1886.

>>377126093
The majority of Nintendo games are generic and shitty. Nintendo needs to throw in the towel.

>>377168923
>>377169182
>>377170030
You don't believe any of this

>>377167357
You meant Halo 5 but that's ok

>>377170030
>lava/volcano levels are brain dead
Eeehhh I can agree kinda I mean I personally love them but when you really think about it it's literally the same fucking thing no matter the game
>hop from platform to platform forever

>>377170395
halo 5 is a fucking disaster. literally kys
>>377170483
yep, very monotonous.
>>377170378
i do

I don't understand all the hate for turn based games and think they're really fun

Battlefield 4 > Battlefield 1

Pokemon gen 1 is the worst gen

Call of Duty campaigns can be good

>>377170746
it's an ancient, outdated format. it only really works for indieshit now. also pretty boring
>>377170871
wrong

i mean yeah probably

lol not since 4. maybe black ops 1 if you're lucky

>>377170607
>fucking disaster.
>I haven't played it and I only pay attention to memes
You don't know what an actual well made video game is

>>377126093
EYE is dull unless you just want to mindlessly mow people down with your friends and if you do warframe already gives you that experience

>>377171040
>also pretty boring
>I'm an ADD ridden faggot that needs shit flying all over the screen to have fun

Banjo Kazooie sucks and Nuts N Bolts was a masterpiece

>>377129380
Isn't it agreed that RTS'S failed because they started to appeal to the e-gaming/competitive multiplayer experience instead of making single player campaign/games with m8s fun?

I don't see why fps games are so popular it's literally a glorified game of hide and seek since nobody can take a light breeze to the face without collapsing in a bloody mess and waiting 5 minutes to respawn

>>377171465
>i'm mad people don't care for my outdated shit

>>377171690
Outdated how?

>>377126093
The Crash games were never very good
Jak 1 is the only good Jak game
All the Uncharted games are shit
Last of Us is severely overrated; Walking Dead Season 1 provides a similar experience with better writing
Naughty Dog are only good at technology and have never been good game designers

>>377171816
there are various combat systems that work better for RPGs. turn-based only works for old games and indieshit.

>>377127779
I think that super shouldn't be compared to other paper mario games since it's so different. I still think it's a good game and I had a lot of fun with it, but it's not a paper mario game.

>>377171040
>a game mechanic is outdated
I'd take turn based over hybrid systems any day.

ORAS are better than the original RSE games

I wish stealth games went back to the way they used to be, you got some simple shit like smoke bombs and other stuff to take care of a few guards, get in steal shit/get Intel and get out none of that
>I'm a magical assassin that can nothin personnel guards to death then turn invisible and slow down time and clone myself with a fuckhuge gun that's also completely silent

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Pokemon is one of the worst Nintendo JRPGs. EarthBound, the Mario RPGs, and Xenoblade do a far better job at being one. The series is bland and linear, has no difficulty, and every single character is as interesting as cardboard. However, it excels at multiplayer communication and collecting things. In that regard, the series has only gotten better and better, peaking at XY/ORAS with its PSS, trainer customization, text chat system, and being the only 3DS games to let you add other players as friends without having to swap Friend Codes.

On a similar note, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is absolute garbage as a roguelike and has a laughably stupid plot. I will never understand why people constantly give Explorers of Sky so much praise.

ITT: reasonable opinions and conclusions that are not at all controversial in any way.

example: >>377172039

Super Mario Bros. 2 is better than Super Mario Bros 3 and Super Mario World

>>377171615
I assume you mean multiplayer fps games? Singularity was an fps where you weren't paper thin

>>377171969
What systems?
All your posts have beem incredibly vague

>>377172258
literally any combat system that isn't turn-based

>>377172176
Ok, that's it. You are at the top 3 of the Mah Nigga list. If you say World => 3, then you're at number 2. If you like Sunshine, then you're #1

>>377172190
Yeah multi-player sorry missed that

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Bioshock Infinite would have been perfect if it didnt have bullet sponge enemies

If you kill Quiet MGSV is the best single player game ever made

Dracula X is much better than IV and Rondo

Dark Souls 3 is better than Bloodborne in every single way

Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas in most ways and Obsidian is a shitty dev

Kirby Rainbow Curse is probably the best game in the series. It has actual challenge instead of being a baby platformer

SMT/Persona games are cringy as fuck

>>377172325
So you mean The Bureaus garbage tier hybrid combat system was better than turn based?

>>377172325
Like I said, you're a dumb ignorant child that doesn't actually want to have to think about anything.
You can't even come up with one of these "systems".

>>377172091
>linear, has no difficulty

That describes EarthBound and the Mario RPGs too. You're totally right on PMD though.

>>377172456
yes

>>377172361
Not him but I fucking love world over 3 to me it seemingly has more emotion? I guess? It just looks so much better than 3 it felt like a genuine Mario game if that makes any sense

>>377172394
>Kirby Rainbow Curse

Come on dude, Rainbow Curse is pathetically easy and short.

>>377172519
look at the way you're senselessly crying because someone disagrees with you. any answer presented would be marked off, because you're butthurt. you have no real argument to make.

Neither Silent Hill Homecoming nor downpour were bad games, even within the silent hill series.

Origins however was extremely mediocre.

>>377172651
>crying
Challenging
>no real argument
You mean like you haven't done?

>>377172532
What advantages made it superior to the traditional turn based system especially when it reduced the importance of positioning and your squad mates oftem ran around like chickens with their heads cut off?

>>377172394
How much does mgsv actually change if you kill quiet does the story have a huge change?

Melee is the next evolution of how the fighting game genre should be. Too bad PM died and Nintendo basically will keep dumbing down smash with every iteration.

>>377172597
World is just more "charming" to me. The music, the levels, the sounds shells make when you stomp them, Yoshi, the Switch Palaces, Star World, everything just clicks. 3 always felt a little less like an experience and more like a game.

Also the Cape was awesome

>>377172394
>Killing quiet
That's possible? I always assumed kojima would put in some bullshit to let her survive if you shoot her

>>377172819
it wasn't horribly slow, limited and boring

>>377172176
How about this, Super Mario Land is better than all four of them.

There is almost no difference between 30 FPS and 60 FPS and it's mostly placebo.

>>377173049
I'm still waiting for them to make another mario game where I can actually take Yoshis with me instead of turning him into a shitty 1 level powerup

>>377173115
>wasn't limited
It literally reduced your abilities to a weapon wheel though. If anything it limited what cool shit agent Carter could do

>>377173120
Sorry, I can't agree. Power rankings are Super Mario 2 > World > 3 > Land > Lost Levels = 1

>>377172091
Pokemon was always a mediocre single player game with great multiplayer though. Every gen GF tries to establish a new meta.

> Fallout is overrated
> Genesis Sonic games are far better than Snes Mario games
> Sonic All stars racing > Mario Kart 8
> Early access is cancer

>>377154980
>I liked the first better though
I thought I was the only one, my sibling and friends who have played them prefer the second but I just like the compactness and smaller scale of the first one. Getting all the djinn felt good as opposed to a check list

90% of games in or before gen 5 or so are objectively inferior to newer games due to their relative lack of content, simplier game mechanics, worse visuals and audio, and a lesser amount of general polish.

People are either too blinded by nostalgia or just want to suck their dicks for being ""classics"" and this is why they still are on top 10/100 lists


>>377170871
>Pokemon gen 1 is the worst gen
This is agreed upon by any pokemon fan who isn't blinded by nostalgia.

>>377170607
>halo 5 is a fucking disaster. literally kys
As a longtime Halo fan, 5's single player is garbage but the MP and forge are fantastic

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Star Ocean 4 is a really good game, and it's probably my favorite JRPG.

>>377173182
Maybe after Oddessy.

>>377173315
>Sonic All stars racing > Mario Kart 8
>_____________I agree.

>>377126093

I think my most controversial one is that GTA Online is better than GTA V, but not by much. I think it's great. I say that because there is infinite replay value. It's not the same with GTA V. You can buy a $1 million car in single player, but it can disappear on you. It's not like that in Online. I also have no issue with Shark Cards. To me, it funds the updates and lets Rockstar know people are still interested. Whereas if we didn't have them, I don't know if there would be a way to gauge interest.

I agree with people that online shouldn't be the focal point of the next GTA, though. Still, if I'm honest, I look forward to the online more than the single player.

I wish there were more AAA metroidvania games and it wasn't just indieshit making them anymore

>>377173348
this is absolutely correct, though that doesn't mean modern games don't tend to be pretty shit too

How about this?

Mario All Stars has the best versions of all the games within it, with the only possible exception being Mario 2 due to fun with block deletion

>>377172394
>Fallout 3 better than NV in most ways
How? The weapon mod system was more robust. The faction system was better than the karma system and the side quests were better. Only way I could see FO3 being better was if you wanted a grittier post apocalypse

Mari 64 Ds was fine I never had a problem with the controls and don't see why you're all complaining

>>377173416

I agree with that, too.

>>377173154
It's pretty noticeable visually, but personally it doesn't make much of a difference in my enjoyment of a game. I just don't want the framerate fluctuating like hell.

Souls series is only good for its amazing settings and atmosphere

>>377173559
Not him, but while I enjoy NV more, the wild west theme and brown palette started to get old way, way faster than the more straightforward grey-green FO3.

>>377172530
You're kind of right, but at the same time, those two games still have other factors going for them as an RPG.

>>377173303
Pokemon's metagame isn't well-balanced, either. A clear example would be Garchomp in Diamond and Pearl, who has a stat spread that's made for a boss Pokemon, and is used as such in-game. In competitive matches it wrecks almost anything.

Rhodoks>all

>>377173154
>Almost no difference
It's a pretty big difference but if you play 30 fps you get used to the lower framerate so it's not the end of the world

>>377156367
>It is, still a weak Zelda title; as are TP and WW.
Objectively wrong.

>>377173907
>Wild West theme got old
I liked it better than the grimderp of FO3 but I can understand why people would get annoyed by it. Would've interesting if it was one of several themed areas in the game instead of the whole game having a wild west tinge to it. However I don't see how that would drag the game down to the point where FO3 is better

>>377172839
>>377173092
It just removes all her shit so youre not interrupted by shitty cutscenes all the time and dont have to do mission 45 which is the worst in the game. you can still get the true ending. Unless you really care about achievements and unlocks its the way to go

>>377173912
Pokemon has some of the most variety for party building in a RPG, I'd say that's its strength. It isn't very balanced, but personally I think the variety itself still makes it fun to mess with and gives it a ton of replayability.

>FFVI is overrated and mediocre at best.

>>377174624
I'm glad they're finally starting to add in more unique abilities instead of +1 attack when fighting in rain

Platinum games is probably the most overrated dev in the industry

Nintendo is creatively bankrupt and their continued success proves there is no justice on Earth.

Rainbow Six: Siege is easily the best shooter currently on the market.

MGS2 was the best game in the franchise.

The Elder Scrolls is a bland, uninteresting franchise that shouldn't get an eighth of the attention it currently gets. This goes for every game, not just Skyrim.

Gameplay and Story should have similar quality should the game have both in the first place (so this excludes shit like Kirby or Firewatch, which lack one of the two entirely).

JRPGs are a universally loathesome genre. WRPGs are better in every aspect.

Fighting games will die if they continue to cater to the ultra-hardcore. Not the way I'd like it, but that's the way it is.

Melee should be killed as an E-sport.

E-sports in general are a complete waste of time sans fighting games

The AAA gaming industry has been killed by normies, or is at least in the process. There's a reason everyone here is incredibly apprehensive at AAA releases.

Xbox is the most irrelevant console. PS4 is the best, if only for the exclusives.

>>377174785
>MGS2 was the best game in the franchise.
How is this controversial, did you mean to say MGS4?

>>377174785
>hide post

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>>377152645

- Rayman series is the most overrated platform series
- Alundra was a poor man's Zelda game for Sonyfags
- Rabbids are more likeable and iconic than Rayman

The first 3 Crash games aren't that good. They're hardly 3D.