Why was this allowed?

Good games get good scores.

>>377106325
Because Horizon was a bland 3rd person Far Cry 3.
The thing that really made BotW stand out from other open world titles is its aesthetics and pretty great physics engine.

Horizon is shit. Glad I returned that fucking bullshit.

Haven't played Zelda though

>>377106325
because women is protagonists who do violent things, or even any kind of things besides being dumb are unrealistic and stupid. Women suck, get over it.

>>377106425
/thread

>>377106325
Generic the open world game vs inventive open world game.

>>377106325
It's a better game lol

As cool as fighting robot dinosaurs is, it's just a skin on a Far Cry game

One of those games is fun and brings something new to the table. The other is Horizon.

>>377106456

Horizon was okay, best part is that it doesn't really overstay it's welcome.

Botw was also pretty mediocre, but I forced myself to stick it out because it's a Zelda game. It just goes on long after you get bored of it.

ZELDA IS THAT MUCH BETTER THAN HORIKEK

>>377106425

Horizon isn't great, but it amazes me that anyone thinks Botw is an amazing game. Even if it's better than Horizon, that's a low bar.

>>377106587
I don't think I can take you seriously, because I played Horizon. And that game is pure boring.

I couldn't care less about Zelda games though. Nintendo are literally only getting by through muh nostalgia.
I'll probably pirate BotW on CEMU sometime.

>>377106684
I still play Zelda after the postgame. Its definitely not the universal appeal the 10/10 critics imply but its a solid game in itself. I still wander the overworld of Hyrule just to explore for the sake of it. Its really nice and well crafted.

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>>377106569
What does BOTW bring to the table other than a bland, uninspired, empty, open world with boring, shallow combat and mind numbing "puzzles" designed for 4 yr olds? Even Skyrim had a more interesting world to explore.

I cannot fathom how ANYONE could think BOTW is a great game, let alone a 10/10 perfect game. It doesn't even have a fucking fishing mechanic lmfao.

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>>377106325
its zelda so it automatically gets a perfect score and goty

>>377106951
>explore

Exploring to find what exactly? Koroks? The world is fucking boring as hell. As is the rest of the game.

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>/v/ never talks about either BOTW or Horizon ZD anymore

Why did anyone think either of these games were GOTY material?

>>377107053
Shut the fuck up RIGHT NOW

>>377106684
>it amazes me that anyone thinks Botw is an amazing game
It amazes me that anyone could think otherwise. I don't even like Zelda games but even I can appreciate the amount of detail put into that game. Not to mention its pretty amazing how a game that allows for so many things has so little bugs happening.

I mean, I think the fucking "weapons breaking" systems is absolute ass personally, but even that mechanic is well polished for what it is. It's pretty hard to objectively critique relative to other open-world titles.

>>377107154
There literally a "comfy Zelda thread" every day

>>377107330
It did literally nothing better than Skyrim, which came out 6 years ago. Open world is a fucking meme. You've experienced everything BOTW has to offer after about 15 hours of play. After that it's a chore to play.

Also, anyone who thinks a game devoid of a good storyline can be "amazing" is a fucking moron.

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Persona 5, Nier and Nioh were better games than both of these tbqh

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>>377107478
>Gaymes need compelling story-line to be good
Wrong, faggot.

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>>377107053
>It doesn't even have a fucking fishing mechanic lmfao.
It doesn't even need one, you can throw a bomb into the water, blow it up, and get a bunch of grilled fish without needing to pull out a gay-ass rod.

And if you want raw fish, you jump into the water and catch those fish with your bare hands like a fucking man, or just cryonis under them if you're lazy and don't want to swim after them.

If you couldn't figure out any of these things, you shouldn't be complaining about "puzzles designed for 4 year olds."

>>377107149
I've played for 104h, beat the final boss at around 80h and have just been exploring since. Yesterday I found a whole new village by the beach that i had no idea existed with new side-quests and stuff. I'm sure there more I've yet to see, I'm looking forward to the DLC thing that tracks all your paths.

>>377107330
>"Well polished" weapon breaking mechanic
>Doesn't realize it's a gimic to add playing time to an already wasteful empty world

So what you are saying is swords that break in 5 swings are a good thing? For all the bullshit you Zelda fans expect me to swallow including "muh realism," you sure don't understand a fucking thing about durability.

>>377107509
>P5
generic high school drama weebshit faggotry
>Nier Tomato
PS2 gameplay with tumbl-tier story, dull as fuck combat and mindless grinding
>Nioh
Great combat, but shit everything else.

Nintendo Switch and the Wii U barely gets any game, so people better buy that single good release per year.

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>>377106325
Why was THIS allowed?

>>377107149
Anything. Not koroks, I'm not a completionist.

Take in views, try to find new towns, maybe bump into a shrine. Get lost in the hills. Stuff like that.

>boring as hell

Maybe its just not for you. I like it, it feels very organic to me.

>>377107154
Zelda threads are common still. HZD was too generic sans the redhead main character.

>>377107641
Did I say I couldn't figure out how to get fish? I said there was no fishing mechanic.

And my point was that a 10/10 game would mean absolute perfection, and the absence of something as basic as a fishing minigame instantly voids a perfect score. 10/10 is impossible to achieve. There will ALWAYS be something that could be added, in hindsight, to make the game better/more immersive/smoother/more fun/etc.

tl;dr you're a mongoloid

What makes Zelda better than any other open world meme game?

>>377107873
>people taking the 10/10 score this literally

Jesus

>>377107873
A mini-game every time you need to acquire a basic material isn't a mechanic, it's a chore.

>>377106325
New IP vs Well liked and established IP. Also having played both Horizon feels oddly generic. I think it's down to the camera and the movement systems being too much like RotTR. Too much of that in general. BotW though feels like a Zelda game thats gotten massively expanded. The world has tonnes pf little details anf interactions with the world feel less robotic. The fact that the facial animations were existant unlike horizons. What the fuck happened to that studio? They did good work on Heavenly Sword.

>>377107692
It really depends on the game. A lot of focus seems to be on survival. Being able to have infinite weapons kinda kills that feeling.

I fought against a Lynel the other day and all my shit broke when it had almost no health left. I saw a fucking twig on the ground, picked it up and killed the Lynel with it.

I've played no other game where a weapon that is absolute shit relative to every other weapon in the game can still be useful so late in the game. Not to mention the tension you feel when all your shit is gone. You go from hero to zero.

I'm not sure if I want it to return in upcoming games, but I can definitely appreciate the idea. It does generate some really cool moments.

>>377107890
In every aspect except art style, Skyrim excels. Idk why ppl think Zelda is a good game. Not that Skyrim is either.

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>>377108006
>Skyrim better artstyle than Botw

>>377107873
>point was that a 10/10 game would mean absolute perfection
Literally no reviewer considers 10/10 to be "perfect" anon. That only your perception on the score. You should read what a score implies before spouting "hur dur it's not perfect".

>>377107976
And completing 100+ mini shrines, finding koroks, and grabbing a new weapon every 2 seconds isn't a chore? The entire structure of the game boils down to entering a new area, finding a tower, completing mini shrines, then doing the main quest bullshit, repeat 20 times. The whole game is a chore after you've finished the first couple map squares.

>>377108153
>reading comprehension
>existing at all

I said Skyrim excels in everything but art style.

One pandered to weebs
The other pandered to SJWs and vapid normie women

Only one of these demographics actually plays games.

>>377108215
Sounds like you needed to find better weapons.

>>377108215
Not if it feels compelling, which it did to me. It's mot like you have to do them all. If you happen to see something , do it, if not , it doesn't really matter.

You know what feels like a chore though? Climbing a tower and getting a checklist of 500 things to do marked on your screen.

At least in BotW the world is designed to intrigue you to go to certain areas by having smoke going up through the trees or various interesting looking landmarks. All other open world games just marks all that shit for you without even attempting to make the locations interesting.

>>377108617
That was my major problem with The Witcher 3. As soon as you purchased the map or whatever (I forget how the mechanic worked) it would place like 50 ?'s on your map. It completely killed any real exploration.

>>377108215
>And completing 100+ mini shrines, finding koroks, and grabbing a new weapon every 2 seconds isn't a chore?
Puzzles are not chores, and if you find them boring to the point of being monotonous, then it's clearly time to take a break. If you find puzzles inherently boring in this game, then play Dark Souls instead. This clearly isn't the right genre for you. Finding the shrines isn't even your top priority in the game, and you should always have other goals or objectives in mind while looking for them. It's basic multi-tasking.
You're not meant to actively go out looking for koroks, you're supposed to encounter them on the way to wherever you're going, hence why you only need 140 or so seeds to fully upgrade your capacity but there are literally 900 of them in the game. More Koroks means a denser population of them, making them much easier to find.
Considering that the vast majority of monsters in the game carry weapons, and weapons take longer to break than /v/ likes to pretend they do, if you're running out of weapons and have to farm new ones every "2 seconds," you're playing really stupidly.

>The entire structure of the game boils down to entering a new area, finding an objective, completing mini areas, then doing the main quest bullshit, repeat 20 times
You'll find that most games in existence boil down to that. With certain terms slightly broadened.

>>377108617
in my opinion towers were one of the highlights of zelda, actually getting to the top just allowed me a better viewpoint and gave me places which i wanted to mark on the map myself and check out

>>377107641
D-d-d-d-destroyed.

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>>377106684

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>>377106325
I got one better.

>>377107053
You don't even understand what Nintendo just did, do you?

>>377107478
>It did literally nothing better than Skyrim, which came out 6 years ago.

Salty as fuckarino.

>>377107873
>And my point was that a 10/10 game would mean absolute perfection
So you're just retarded, I see.

>>377107890
The amount of freedom is unparallelled and the world building is unmatched. Now start mashing that keyboard and tell me how wrong I am.

>>377108734
You do know you can disable the landmarks on the map and discover and miss thing on your own, right?

>>377109670
I can't believe they're even making a Knack 2.. The first game was so shit, adding co-op will hardly make it better.

>>377109893
San Andreas was way better for that. The worldbuilding was about the usual for a zelda game.

>>377108617
Hands down the best part of the game in my opinion and I really want other games to continue like this.

>>377106325
Because paying reviewers is how the industry has been working since forever.

>>377110029
You know absolutely NOTHING about game design, do you?

>>377110149
paying reviewers sure helped for star fox zero and metroid other m

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>>377106325
>Giving a fuck about Metacritic.
They let any faggot with a blog have their scores counted.

Look at Nier Automata:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/nier-automata

One of the shit viewers gave it a 5/10, but if you read his review you will see that he didn't even fucking finish Route A. He played no more than 3-5 hours of the fucking game.

Here it is if you're interested.
http://business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/post-arcade/nier-automata-review-creative-daring-ambitious-oh-and-also-a-big-fat-mess?__lsa=b92b-9e88

Metacritic is irrelevant, and gaming scores are irrelevant too. Good reviews are ones that don't use an arbitrary number to determine a games worth.

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I see they finally purged most of the retarded 0 spam.

Ever noticed how most 10/10 scores on Sony games are from publications and websites that are Playstation specific or named after Playstation, whereas Nintendo get them from everywhere?

>>377110280
>99% of User score is either a 10 or a 0.
Why not just have a like or dislike button at this point like Steam does?

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>>377110149
Yes paid reviews is the only possible explanation, right?

It couldn't possibly be that the most revered and respected video game developer in the world - a company who regularly produce games which top GOAT lists - just made a good game. No chance of that.

>>377110053
It's a neat idea but it won't stick.

Most devs don't have that much time nor manpower. Creating the objectives takes long enough and adding interesting landmarks to every single one will take more than twice as long. While I appreciate what Zelda did, most devs are not going to want to design things that 'may or may not' be experienced by the player.

There's no way devs are going to put that much effort into their games if they are working on series that release on a yearly basis.

>>377110395

your scenario is just as likely as his scenario

>>377110395
Breath of the Wild is literally just a Ubisoft sandbox with a Zelda theme applied to it.

Finished it last night. I think it's honestly the best Zelda since Wind Waker and one of the first times I've had genuine fun with a game in a while. That said, those dungeons were fucking garbage. They should have cut the amount of Shrines to 100 and put some of those puzzles into actual dungeons, and maybe put in one extra. The design of the dungeons was also pretty weak (and ebin ganon 4 times in a row with different powers). Putting aside the fact that they took like 30 minutes top to complete, it felt like it was a really cool concept for one dungeon that they stretched out into 4. Some themed dungeons would have been nice, with the giant moving robot dungeon being one big one by itself.

It also needed more exposition for the champions. It's a little hard to get any feels for them when all you get is 1-2 cutscenes featuring them and maybe a handful of text before you get into the divine beast. The only character that really felt developed at all was Zelda since she was in most of the damn memories. Hyrule Castle and Ganon's first form were really fucking cool though. If the dungeons were better I feel like this game could have rivaled OoT/Majora for me.

>>377110448
Not really, you just have to be inventive with the tools you already have - see the example of smoke coming from the woods.

You don't need to create new assets everytime you wanna make a location interesting, just use the ones you have.

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>>377110576

>>377110576
t. didn't play the game

Don't you have some 0 reviews to post on metacritic?

desu guys the best thing about exploring in botw is running around some area and then hearing kass playing his accordion, always got excited by it

>>377110701
>>377110728
10 Nintendo points have been deposited in your accounts.

>>377110453
>A company with a track record of producing great games make another great game.
>A company risks their entire reputation to dupe consumers by systematically paying hundreds of reviewers across the world and everyone of one those reviewers agrees and nobody blows the whistle that they were offered a bride.

You are fucking delusional. Bet you think 9/11 was an inside job.

>>377110774

Your delusional for dismissing paid reviews this hard.
Jesus Christ where the fuck have you been the past 5 years.

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>>377106456
Even Sakurai admits that Horizon is a good game. He even says it's less tiresome than BotW.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/05/masahiro_sakurai_compares_zelda_breath_of_the_wild_and_horizon_zero_dawn

If Masahiro Sakurai can admit that Horizon is a good game, why can't the rest of /v/?

>>377110773
Inshallah brother, we will show the Nintendo infidels the power of Horizon™ Zero Dawn.

>>377110667
Not him but AAA developers/western devs don't do passion projects or incentivise. They do checklists. That is why HZD, as succesful commercially as it was, is forgotten.

They don't improvise or try to think outside the box or put much love into new themes.

"MECHA DINOSAURS! EVERYONE LOVES THEM!"

is as far as they go. They do it, great detail but that's it. Flash with no substance. It takes a lot more effort due to both the work ethic and mindset behind western devs.

>>377110645
Agreed. Especially about the dungeons.

To be honest I didn't really mind the dungeons being short. The first divine beast I entered I though was really cool and I loved the "gimmick" of moving the entire thing while being inside. It really made me excited to see what the other 3 would do.

Then I realized, after beating a second beast, that they were all going to have the exact same "gimmic" and that all would have a slight variation of the same boss.

Dungeons and bosses are definitely my biggest gripes about BotW.

>>377110774
Yeah. How could 9/11 be an inside job if the planes came from the outside?

>>377110907
You're taking that quote out of context. He says the puzzles are tiresome but then immediately says in the same line "But that is what everyone loves about Zelda as puzzles are the challenge" or some form of that.

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>>377106325
Why is THIS allowed?

>>377110906
And they get caught and exposed.

I guess Nintendo must have been paying all those reviewers and journalists since the 80's, right? Stop the paranoia.

>>377110931
BOTW wasn't some massive innovation either. It was innovative for the franchise and is a good game, but it is by no means brings anything new to the table in the industry as a whole.

>>377110906
>>377110242

>>377110242
Nintendo takes risks on franchises they don't give a fuck about and save the funds to pay off reviewers for their bigger and more successful ones. Not surprising.

>>377111050
But you're comparing a multiplat that has been on 5 different platforms since 2013 to a game that has been on 2 platforms for 2 months.

>>377110395
Yes because all those perfect scores when the game is nothing worthy of such a score comes out of thin air.

>>377107330
>It's pretty hard to objectively critique relative to other open-world titles.
how about the absolute garbage level/puzzle design and the worst VA that's ever been in a video game?

>>377111050
>someone actually took time out of their life to make this image

>>377111186
BOTW is on PC too.

>>377111050
>Arguing about Sales - which has no connection to Quality.

I guess, by your mentality, McDonalds must be the finest restaurant in the world.

>>377111050
>Comparing two similar games with similar launch dates to eachother

That's not really a bad thing though?

>>377111050

Maybe because GTA is 4 years old on 5 platforms with being a console bundle pack-in.

>>377111204
You mean, it got all those perfect scores because... people played it?

>>377106325
That is potentially the most meaningless graph I've seen all day.

>>377111224
Which other open world game offers the same level of puzzles variety or quality?

i agree with the voice acting though, that was shit and can definitely be improved.

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>>377111183
You know troll science doesn't actually work? You can't base real-world logic off of it.

>>377111101
I think the bullet point aspects no, but certainly execution it did as well as the craftmanship of the world. There was always incentive for players to explore with little landmarks, small things like that which accumulate to a lot of small things adding up for a quality experience.

>>377106325
both games are great but zelda got overrated to such an extend i have never ever seen before.
There is nothing new or innovative with it it has several objectively bad game design decisions, wonky peformance and ugly visuals.
Reviewers really are just pigs sitting on the trough or simply scared of the fanbase.

I can't be the only one who can't help but notice whenever someone posts or says something they think is good about Horizon it's only about the graphics and nothing else. What's hilarious to me is that the world in Horizon is static as fuck, Crysis is better looking + more interactivity than Horizon

>>377111239
FOOD ANALOGY

Horizon is a great game and I had an absolute blast playing it.

But a few weeks later I played BotW and it's pretty obvious the game is on a different planet to BotW. I couldn't even go back to Horizon afterwards.

>inb4 false flagging fanboi

>>377111427
Here's the (You) that you want.

>>377111578
For me it's Horizon, the best chicken sandwich.

>>377106325
zelda is at 68 perfect scores now

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YAMEROOOOOO

>>377111224
>and the worst VA that's ever been in a video game?

Nobody cares if you americans got the short end of the stick, that has nothing to do with the game's quality. And you can even change language

>>377106325
Any publication that gives a perfect 100 to the game isn't one that is worth giving a fuck about.

>>377111735
>5/5 YAHOO!
not BING/BING YAHOO!

>>377111538
The best thing about horizon is fighting machines they are basically the best open world enemies yet. Its really funny how you lie yes the graphics are great too (but most are smart enough to not talk on v about this cause many on here are easily offended if a game they dont like looks better than 99,9% of games out there)but its rarely that anyone fails to mention the enemies and how good they are.

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>>377111735
>That 10/10 from Dualshockers is in an official ad
I'll never not find it hilarious

>>377111787
Why?

Serious question: did breath of the wild actually do anything new and innovative? I think it has but I can't remember what.

>>377112075
It's not a perfect game, realistically there should never be perfect scores being tossed around so easily. Plus the game isn't without flaws, some of which you can find within the first few hours of the game.

>>377111787
>perfect 100
There no publication that considers 100/100 perfect anon. That's just you interpreting their scores wrong.

>>377112149
It introduced gliders as a means of transportation in a sandbox game, something that has never been done before.

>>377112149
Yes.

>>377112149
climbing almost everything, world being dense full of interesting areas to explore with minimal instruction

a true exploration game for once

>>377112194
Can't tell if you're trolling or actually illiterate.

>>377112229
Whoa.. so its like Skyrim with a Zelda mod installed...

>>377112164
>perfect scores
If you actually took some time to read what a 10/10 means you could avoid being embarrassed like this.

Daily reminder that anyone who compares Horizon to Far Cry has never played both.

>>377107149
Not everyone needs an objective or a checklist to cross off to enjoy a game.

Some of the landscapes are just fun to run around in, hell my goal when exploring is to find sick places I can shield surf.

This is why generation Z will never be able to truly enjoy a game. Too obsessed with achievements and trophies.

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It a Horizon v BotW thread.

Most of the posts are directed to try and find a fault with BotW rather than defend Horizon.

Gee, wonder why?

>>377112193
>>377112316
>I mean, it's a perfect score but it doesn't REALLY mean that it's perfect!

Fucking retarded.

There are people who have Skyward Sword perfect scores, and MGS4, and GTA4. Most gaming critics are fanboys for something, Horizon is a new IP so can't possibly compete. You'll barely ever see a new IP get perfect scores, whereas sequels of beloved game series, regardless of quality, will almost always get showered by them.

>>377112149
You can shoot an arrow into the distance and find it for later use.

>>377112285
>skyrim
>dense with interesting things

lmao

>>377112395
Nice bait Sony shill.

>>377112387
many reviewers specify 10/10 means fantastic not perfect

>>377111657
I actually didn't want any, I just wanted you to shut the fuck up because your stupidity is giving me a headache, but feel free to continue giving me (You)s if you unironically ascribe value to them. Hell, take it a step further and invent a new type of bitcoin based on (You)s.

>>377112447
>implying BOTW is any different

lmao

>>377112387
It actually means the Good outweighs the bad by a large margin.

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>>377110280
NOOOOOOOOOOOO ALL OUR WORK FOR NOTHING!

>>377112395
What about Splatoon tho?

>>377112476
MGS4 is a Sony exclusive, didn't deserve the praise. I honestly think Horizon is overrated too, but not as badly as Zelda is

>>377112495
except it is

lmao

>>377112481
Other reviewers mean a 10/10 as literally perfect. Both have the same weight on Metacritic even though they mean different things.

These Metacritic threads are fucking retarded.

>>377112149
Sure. I'd argue the innovative portion of BotW consists of combining multiple elements.

There's no game to date that allows for the amount of actions as in breath of the wild. Something as simple as burning grass leads to loads of possibilities. You can use it to create wind which can interact with you,by our bombs or other things, it allows you to improve your weapons by igniting them but also allows the same for your enemies, you can us it to ignite your bow, the fire will spread with the wind, it can ignite you and if you run out it will ignite other areas etc. etc. etc.

And this holds for pretty much all actions in the game.

There no game like it on the market.

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>a full month before Horizon released
>not a single fucking thread
>people started getting Switches and talking about how amazing Zelda was early on the embargo
>suddenly there was a horizon thread here and there
>about 2 weeks before release
>8 horizon threads a day with the same text or same picture over and over

Really makes you think.

>>377112681
RuneScape does all of that.

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v/ will never get over Breath Of The Wild.

The ass sting will reverberate for the ages.

I will always remember the past 12 months on this board. Watching the same people who devoted so much time and energy to discrediting the switch and Breath Of The Wild - from spreading lies to cherry-picking screenshots - doing everything within their ability to make the console and the game seem bad.

Only to watch their jaws drop in horror as the Switch burst out the gate as a massive overnight success and BotW turned out to be, not just Game Of The Year, but one of the best games ever made.

Fucking glorious. I am actually sore with laughter.

>>377107149
It's the only game I've ever played 200 hours of. And I still find new stuff all the time

>>377110242
>other m
they still weren't doing it blatantantly, did you forget 8.8 for Twilight Princess and the spoiled fanbase being livid at such an ok score instead of a 10?
>star fox zero
Not like they were supporting the WiiU properly by then, makes sense they wouldn't throw money at something that had already failed.

>>377112729
Best game of the decade? More like best game ever at this point. It is the pinnacle of gaming, a true once in a lifetime gem.

>>377112729
>>377112789
epic

>>377106325
Because one is another installment in a huge, popular series that's been around for more than 20 years and the other is a new IP made by people who have done nothing of note outside Killzone.

Seriously, what did you people expect?

>>377112387
You do know that you can actually check what most reviewers mean when they say 10/10 anon?

It's never "perfect". Usually it's something like "masterful".

You interpreting their scores as perfection is just stupid.

>>377112395
>Most gaming critics are fanboys for something, Horizon is a new IP so can't possibly compete.
Except Horizon sold what it did because Sony fans are so starved for games and to support their company. Doesn't matter that it was a new IP, they were going to buy it anyway.

>>377112845
Some people are still deluded and think that ratings are supposed to be impartial.
Instead everyone knows that Mario and Zelda games get automatic 10s just because of the name.

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>play h:zd
>enjoy it but realize like most open world games it's simply a shallow sandbox with repetitive activities over and over
>look up footage of zelda
>it's the exact same shallow sandbox with repetitive activities over and over again

remind me why either of these games should be considered anything above average?

>>377111520
>There is nothing new or innovative with it it
Ah, that's why people compared it with 50 games, right?

>>377112892
>extremely good games come out
>reviewers give them 9/8 because not AAA franchise by a big name company instead of a 10
really make me think

>>377112975
the two games play completely differently, you could even tell from 5 min of gameplay footage

how retarded do you have to be to not notice?

>>377112845
>What did people expect?
A lot, apparently. Since people's were spouting "Zelda killer" about Horizon everywhere.. Which is hilarious in retrospect.

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>>377112975
He hasn't seen the Zelda/Horizon comparison videos.

He hasn't even played the fucking game.

>>377112650
Only an autistic person would think it means literally perfect

>>377113038
>reviewers give them 9/8 because not AAA franchise by a big name company instead of a 10
Such as?

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>>377112761
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam has a 76 on metacritic. A game that came out after your imaginary threshold date, on a still-alive platform, from a first-party dev.
Let's see your excuse for that.

>>377113186
Just go around picking examples really.

>>377113210
So you're lying then, Okay.

>>377113124
Only fucking retards think that 10/10 doesn't really mean a perfect score.

>>377112968
>Instead everyone knows that Mario and Zelda games get automatic 10s just because of the name.

Do realise how fucking flawed this bullshit delusion is?

Saying that Nintendo games get biased reviews implies that there is something unique and special about Nintendo games in the first place, otherwise WHY would there be bias.

If anything, Nintendo's games are open to far more scutiny simple because they're Nintendo games. People expect genre-defining games from them every generation.

>>377113257
Are you that lazy, anon? Do you not consider any other game than Zelda as extremely good to go see its scores not at 10?

>>377106707
>nostalgia
>game just came out this year

Sure thing, champ.

>>377113107
>everywhere
On /v/ you mean?

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>>377113115
>>377113050
it's the same genre and style of gameplay you retards, they're both the same generic climb or collect the same thing over and over again with occasional story tidbits thrown across

the fact of the matter is seeing these retards defend zelda despite it having absolute shit dungeons, or horizon despite it being hurr collect flowers and cups and do these 5 shit hallway tier dungeons makes me sick

>>377113192
Doesn't count.

>>377113382
Like fucking what, anon? I play a lot of games but there's no other game like BotW out there. It doesn't matter how much shitposters say
>hurr durr it's just a ubisoft game with towers in it huehuehue
Either mention the games or fuck off.

>>377113442
t. Sony drone.

>>377113192
Small spin-off. Take Super Mario Galaxy as a proper comparison instead.
>>377113378
>Saying that Nintendo games get biased reviews implies that there is something unique and special about Nintendo games in the first place
Yes, it's called brand-recognition.
here you are quickly saying you expect the games to be unique and special in the same fucking post
> People expect genre-defining games from them every generation.

>>377107509
And Prey.

>>377112975
One has Zelda/Nintendo attached to it. The other has some pretty graphics.

>>377106325
Fanboys
I can already hear a distinct "EH REEE" in the distance

>>377113475
So you're lying then, okay.

>>377107724
Holy buzzwords. Have a (You).

>>377113498
try t. someone who doesn't fall for retards foaming at the mouth about either consoles exclusive games

horizon was shit, zelda looks like

>>377112367
Because everyone played BotW at least once and have never touched Horizon. The target audience is different, you don't have to be 13 and up to understand Zelda unlike Horizon. Not that Horizon needs you to be 13, its just how the game is rated. Plus, one is console exclusive while the other has at least 2 platforms to choose for and if you care enough you can play it on a third one.

Horizon has better enemy variaty and AI, graphics and character models considering a sandbox game, multiple playstyles approaching the game, loot and economy system is tighter and more balanced.
I have only played 10 hours of botw though, im waiting for the hard mode to drop and start over.
>"b-but you haven't finish the game or played enough, how can you critique? Horizon shiller"
I have played 10 hours more than the regular nintenbro has played Horizon

>>377107509
>>377113515
None of them will be remembered like Breath of the Wild. This game will be remembered for decades, maybe even hundreds of years.

>>377106325
One is a video game made by talented people for fun.

The other is propaganda made in sweden.

I played half of BOTW in 4K on my PC but after P5 came out I forgot all about it.

>>377113349
>reviewer: by 10/10 I mean this [definition that implies it does not mean perfection]
>retarded children on any site with a scoring system: brfghlgh!!!! How can it be 100%!! Nothing is perfect!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHH!

>>377113705
Agreed, the Swedish are trying to make people think that the idea of a Twink Link is okay. They're trying to make the world think that blatant homosexual propaganda in games is okay.

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>>377113705
>talented people
>have only made the same games for the past 600 years

>>377113692
You're genuinely delusional if you believe this.

>>377113692
Nope, a generic open world game with a Zelda paint, it's very obvious that Nintendo does not have experience doing this.

The review scores just reflect guilt ridden "journalists" that don't want to be responsible for the Switch flopping and Nintendo going full SEGA.

>>377113781
>10/10 doesn't equal 100%
Alright, you got me, I was baited. Here's your last (You) faggot.

>>377113854
You're on the wrong side of history.
>>377113893
>BOTW
>generic open world

I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of your slander.

>>377113442
>it's the same genre and style of gameplay you retards

You openly admit you haven't played the fucking game.

A long time ago, there were a couple of games called Super Mario World and Bubsy The Bobcat. On paper they both sound the same, 2D platformer, run from left to right, jump on the bad guy's head, reach the end goal and proceed to the next level.

One of those games is considered one of the best games ever made and the other not such. It's about execution.

>>377113513
So basically, the only games I'm allowed to name for the sake of comparison are those that have metacritic scores over 80 and, according to you, were paid for?

>>377113781
Agreed, to be honest, anyone taking that a subjective score can be interpreted as perfection should be shot.

>>377114150
>anybody who thinks that 10/10 equates to 100% should be shot.

You can have a (You) too.

>>377114301
It's already emulated, the only shit I'm crying over is the lack of any PS3/PS4 emulation.

>>377113845
Such salt. Stay mad kiddo.

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>>377110906

>>377106325
Zelda was pretty bad. Never played horizon and probably never will since the aesthetics are really bad

>>377114424
*bro fist*

Yeah dude, us Nintenbros stay together. You show him.

>>377114385
Top kek. Emulate WHAT exactly?

>>377113392
I don't think you know what nostalgia means

>>377106325
What bothers me is that both games are equally mediocre but Zelda gets a pass because it's Zelda.

>>377114484
Breath of the Wild..? Are you retarded enough to not know the context of the thread you're shitposting in?

>>377107509
notice how all Sonybros always praise the games with the objectively worst gameplay?
really makes you think

>>377114472
Maybe video games aren't for you. Time to consider a new hobby.

>>377114520
I'm sure Sony will give you some extra days for PSN for your contribution here.

>>377114570
This. BOTW is the pinnacle of gameplay, it's format will be used for decades to come.

>>377114556
What would you emulate from the Playstation library you dumb fuck?

>>377108617
fucking THIS

>>377107478
>Open world is a fucking meme.
Open world is the best way to guarantee several replays. The problem is that noone made a good open world game.

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>>377114520
>What bothers me is that both games are equally mediocre
I wonder who could be behind this post...

>>377114665
Bloodbourne, Persona 5, Nier, Nioh, Yakuza, just those off of the top of my head.

Are you retarded?

>>377114636
>>377114596
>>377114585
>>377114570
These aren't serious posts, right?
Nobody would be delusional or zealous enough to defend a console like this, right?

>>377111578
Its perfect.

>>377106325
Zelda BOTW looks like a PS2 game and plays like an oudated game as well.

Horizon Zero Dawn actually looks next generation and it plays like one.

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>>377114774
I don't know.

You tell me.

>>377114774
Wait, you just said both BotW AND Horizon are bad. Now you're limiting your hate to ONE console. I wonder which console that could be my salty little child?

>>377114774
Rampant ironic shitposting.

>>377110906
>when Sony games get accused of paid reviews its wrong!
>when Nintendo games get accused of paid reviews its ok!
>Sonybro logic

>>377114585
Nah. AAA just need to quit being safe and make good games again.

Everyone knows Horizon Zero Dawn was a better game than Zelda Breath Of The Wild.

>>377114914
>he's not a idort
lmao

>>377114952
This, to add to that there hasn't been a single case of reviews being paid for in decades. It's illegal.

>>377114762
why would you want to emulate rehashes upon rehashes?

>>377114968
You're on the wrong website to be saying that.

>>377114968
Alternative Universe everyone.

>>377115045
but BOTW is a rehash

>>377114968
Whoa it's opposite day haha.

>>377108617
>You know what feels like a chore though? Climbing a tower and getting a checklist of 500 things to do marked on your screen.
But that's what you do in Zelda though? The ubisoft radio towers and the 900 korok seeds.

>>377114636
Sometimes I think "damn, maybe nintenyeartolds are correct and Horizon is really boring. I should not been having fun for the past 60 hours."
I should sell my ps4 with my 20+ movies to buy a switch and play zelda and maio kart even though i already own them on wii u.

>>377115106
It's the complete opposite of a rehash. The biggest complaints are that it's too different from previous Zelda games.

>>377111914
Funny, I never once saw a HZD thread where people commented about cool strategies or gimmicks about the bosses. It's always either
>Aloy is cute
>it has ROBOTS!
>nice graphic, see these ants climbing a tree

Gameplay? 0.

>>377115216
You aren't having real fun with Horizon Zero Dawn, you're having artificial fun. There's no substance.

>>377115243
>rehashes a character named Link
>rehashes a character name Zelda
>rehashes enemies and weapons

>b-but it's not a rehash!

LOL

>>377115106
the joke was more or less about Sonybros making fun of "rehashes" while sucking huge dick for another Souls-like game with edgy atmosphere or cute girls

>>377115378
when you think about it all games are rehashes

>>377114968
>Saying a western game is better than the popular japanese game
I don't think you understand how this website works.
But yeah, HZD is better game. BotW should have been a Zelda maker or something. So people can create their own shire dungeons and fuck around the physics engine because is the only fun part of it.

>>377115334
>Complains that a game called Legend Of Zelda has a character called Zelda in it.

This is the best /v/ can come up with.

>>377115456
I like how you get BTFO and you have the nuts to continue to try to debunk my position. Keep squirming like the worm you are.

>>377115334
>"you see, the way the game is played is completely new and unique for its series and makes other games pale in comparison"
>"YEAH BUT ITS USING WELL KNOWN AND UNIVERSALLY LIKED CHARACTERS SO ITS A REHASH AND ALL ITS POSITIVES HAVE NO WEIGHT ANYMORE!"
lol

>>377106425
The behind the scenes physics and systems of botw make it stand out to me. The way that you can toy with momentum using the stasis power kind of blew my mind the first time I saw it. The game definitely has flaws but it does an excellent job of creating an open world that's more sandbox than prefabricated setpieces.

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>>377115446

>>377115446
no shit sherlock
thats why its a non-argument really

>>377115594
I feel like I've read a post like this before. Must be a rehash.

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>>377106325
Oh wow yet another console wars thread, I wonder what new and original content will be in this thread. Oh wait no it's just a bunch of fucking morons taking a shit in the middle of /v/. But it's okay because everyone else is doing it. If you love your consoles so much maybe you should stick your penis into the disk tray and then close it so you can cut it off so you can show your console waifus that you can't make love to any woman and that your penis belongs to it. Just get off this site and never return, in fact just disconnect from the internet because your lack of brain cells is infecting everyone and bringing humanity down as a whole you useless sacks of shit.

>>377115508
Haha pathetic. Would you mind telling me how I got BTFO? The game having the main characters the series is known for and a fucking sword don't mean it's a rehash you stupid child. The game play is fundimentally different from every other 3D Zelda. There's a two hour presentation from Nintendo on the net explaining this. Cry some more child.

>>377106371
wtf i love skyrim now

why does LOZ always get perfect scores, this one in particular offered nothing new and the graphics are an "artsy" copout. it just feels like just because it's Link it gets perfect scores, always. every single fuckin game, man. more than Mario games, more than Smash games etc.

when will the LoZ manchildren stop having control of the ratings? the game is nothing special.

>>377115753
>when you get so BTFO that you don't even know that you were BTFO

I pity you. I honestly do. You don't even know what a rehash is yet you continue flailing around spouting it as hard as you can. It looks like in this battle of wits you showed up unarmed.

>>377115802
Because the manchildren go ape shit of you say it's anything less than a 11/10

>>377107478
>anyone who thinks a game devoid of a good storyline can be "amazing" is a fucking moron
Faggot

>>377115802
>the game is nothing special

Go fuck yourself. This is something that every generation of humans from now until our extinction should experience.

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>>377112729
Fucking this. /v/ will never recover.

>>377106325
wow sonybros win everytime am i right sonybros? fuck pee cee and fuck donald drumpf and most importantly fuck white people

>>377107053
>It doesn't even have a fucking fishing mechanic lmfao.
Holy fuck you're retarded

BotW v Horizon thread.

Nobody talking about Horizon.

Really makes you think.

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>>377116127
>mfw PC is stealing from Nintendo and isn't paying when they emulate BOTW

>>377116351
There's only one thing you can say when you're talking about Horizon: Perfection.

>>377115802
1. Nostalgia.
2. Nintendo makes entertainment for all ages. it's ok to talk about nintendo games with almost anyone. Even if Bioshock 1 or RDR are better games, Zelda games are easier to discuss with family, friends, coworkers or strangers that aren't much into videogames.
3. Because its ok when Nintendo does it

t. former nintenyeartold. I loved Zelda 3 and ocarina. Defended Wind waker when shitty visuals were announce and even said that TP was the pinnacle of videogame graphics. Thankfully, PS3 grew me out of Nintendo games and the hive, manchildren mentality. I just now enjoy games without throwing a tantrum because my fav franchise drop a point in metacritic or some online reviewer said it wasn't interesting for them.

>>377115802
>why does LOZ always get perfect scores, this one in particular offered nothing new and the graphics are an "artsy" copout.

You're a clueless uncultured moron, we get it.

>>377116449
I swear, I actually just laughed out loud reading this nonsense. Bravo. Comedy gold.

>>377116351
Because it's not interesting if something is done right. Even if someone says something that Horizon done better, most people didn't even play the game to rebute, they just repeat what they heard and critique the first thing they see. No wonder
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>>377106325
>Why was this allowed?

Talent is everything.

Literally everyone who bought a Switch got BotW, the PS4 playerbase is made up almost entirely of normies who play nothing but FIFA and Call of Duty.

>>377116820
See >>377111626

>>377115802
>making it THIS obvious that you never played the game actually
>parroting Sonybrospeak THIS hard
how about you come up with an argument

>>377115995
same was said for all previous LoZ games. all of em.

>>377116475
>uncultured moron

didn't know someone could be uncultured because I called the game out for having tryhard artsy copout graphics.

>>377106684
I couldn't get into BOTW at all.

I'm more of a PC elite Dangerous/Star Citizen fan, and I like VR on games like Robo Recall.

But I found Zero Dawn to have a compelling story, good visuals, decent gameplay, and it kept me coming back like a book and was rather enjoyable. I think it's a solid 8/10

Meanwhile BOTW was just bland nothing. It entirely focused on game-play which I felt was repetitive. Nothing really compelled me to move forward. It kinda felt like minecraft without mining or building, + a little exploration objectives and a few special places. Meh

I mean, it's not bad, maybe it's someone's thing I guess. I also couldn't get over the fact that Link looked like a fucking woman, then had to crossdress. What the hell. 6/10 imo

It's worth noting that I hate the cell shaded "art styles". I think it's cover for weak graphics capabilities.It's like going back to solid color N64 style art and calling it modern. Bleh

>>377116991
And happened the exact same opposite for me.
>Played BOTW first.
>Played 9 hours and stopped because shitty tablet is shitty.
>Bought controller pro.
>Played Horizon while the controller came.
>Never went back to Zelda.

>>377117043
>don't mention sony once
>he's a sonybro

LoZ defense matrix hivemind in action. the game does not deserve the praise it gets. it's as if it's never been done before, with artsy graphics copout to boot.

>>377106325
The sonybros that defend or have even touched Horizon are fucking cancer

>>377117298
Horizon is fine. BotW is just much, much better.

>>377117417
Horizon is absolute fucking dogshit.
BotW is a sign that there is a god.

>>377117113
You uncultured for claiming the game "does nothing new" as well as hating on a game for having an art style. Idiots like you are the reason the entire fucking industry has been plauged with muh-realistic brown graficks and bald space marines.

The point is, you just desperately want to try and undermine the game for whatever irrational reason without actually having an argument.

>>377117496
you probably never played Horizon, or just hate it because muh girl main character.

it's fine.

https://youtu.be/qEGWtyJAkO0

Horizon fags BTFO.

>>377117496
Breath if the wild is absolute fucking dogshit.
Horizon is a sign that there is a goddess.

t. another retard defending a game he hasn't played

>>377106325
Ess Jay Dubya

>>377117707
Holy shit that's fucking embarrassing.

>B-but muh graficks!

Kek.

>>377117792
You know who didn't play BotW? Adolf Hitler. You're effectively on the same playing field as him faggot.

>>377117926
You know who didn't play Horizon? Adolf Hitler. You're effectively on the same playing field as him Tunte.

Two months on and /v/ is still foaming at the mouth over BotW. I see the Sonybros stopped trying to pretend Horizon was the Zelda Killer they claimed it would be. They quickly started shilling Persona5 and Nier as "the true Zelda beater we had in mind along!".

Nobody even talks about Horizon anymore. BotW buried it on Day One.

>>377118643
>Ignoring all the posts that praises Horizon
Sure, that's another way of living.

>>377112149
I'd argue it brought back old designs principles concerning open world. Making it interesting in its own right and making the player do all the work of figuring out where to go, that's something game devs just forgot how to do.
Innovation is kind of a buzzword anyway, looking back on the last generation of consoles. Most "innovative" games or hardware were never the first, and it's more important to just have something good.

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>>377117151
>It entirely focused on game-play which I felt was repetitive
Modern gamers ladies and gentlemen

>>377106325
the 99% of gamers that were men decided they don't like uggo female protagonists

>>377111393

>bad voice acting

Only if you are a greasy english-only speaker. Other languages were pretty amazing tbqh

>>377120741
Kys. Nothing to do with quality. Got it.

>>377121396
I'm not going to play a game with a fugly protagonist design; that's literally half the reason to play games

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>>377112729

I actually like this pasta

>>377116449
>nostalgia
lol, why would that help BoTW? If that was the case, it'd work against it from OoT fans (who actually do) crying about how it's not Zelda anymore.

>>377106325
Still the most boring Zelda since TP. The ranking remains the same, MM>WW>OoT