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Valve deleted the entirety of the Steam forums, along with literally thousands of user fixes and tweaks. They now solely redirect to the discussions hub.

Go ahead, Google a Steam forum link. They'll just redirect you - since the forum is permanently dead.

forums.steampowered.com/
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>>377091140
So?
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It's because they were ripping off Bloodborne
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>>377091140
ITT we see how stupid /v/ is
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>>377091254
>>377091254
Stop trying to spread this shitty meme and fuck off.
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>>377091221
>So?
Not only is every single discussion from the past gone - even ones with developers - the Steam forums were basically the first user result for fixes on PC games. Now those fixes are gone without using cached webpages, which there isn't 100% archival for
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>>377091424
>the Steam forums were basically the first user result for fixes on PC games.
""""""master race"""""" BTFO
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>>377091315
then stop ripping off bloodborne
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To be honest they could at least post a note or something.
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>>377091140
While I can't say it's necessarily a bad thing for them to move to a new system, they should have archived the stuff that came before. I can't imagine those posts take up that much storage space overall.
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>>377091140
>>377091424
Good, fuck PCux. Your fault for putting all your eggs on one basket and supporting DRM rental platforms

Nu-PC players are scum
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>>377091140
Who cares? Steam is cancer
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>>377091140
Why the fuck would you need that when pcgamingwiki exists?
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>>377092013
>>377092062
This has nothing to do with Steam and DRM you retards, plenty of old games had posts and stickies with fixes and helpful files. Max Payne for example had a post with all language files and a language patcher, a compilation of over 500 mods and a patch to get the game working on modern systems. It might be cached but plenty of posts like these are gone forever without warning
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How do you even discuss anything on new 'forum' of theirs? There is so much shitposting even /v/ pales a bit in comparsion.
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>>377092265
Stop supporting Valve then you underage fucking retard

Nu-PCux so retarded they don't understand the concept of backups now
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Echoing what everyone knows already, Valve is cancer.
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works for me
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>>377092382
you're a special kind of retard aren't you
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Steam is a pretty shit platform desu. It was great a few years back when it still felt revolutionary but nowadays it's pretty shit.

The software is just a shitty web wrapper and the entirety of it just has incredibly terrible UI/UX.

Not to mention it's so bloated with useless features like Steam voice chat, steam music, discussions, badges, trading cards.

Goddamn I just wanna play some games what's so hard to get.
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>>377092636
is this some spicy new meme?
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>>377091140
>no warnings
>no news anywhere
>only this post full of retards defending Valve
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/2741975115079101634/
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>cucked again
They don't call us PCbros for nothin'
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>>377092662
>le epic self-aware facetious do i fit in yet guys reddit reply

Legitimately end yourself
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>>377092731
Why would anyone who hates valve/steam even care if they did something? You would clearly never use the service in the first place.
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>>377091254
>>377091480
>>377091509
>>377092013
>>377092382
>>377092636
>>377092731
lol
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>>377091140
Probably a security liability considering it got hacked in the past. Not to mention forum was going downhill for years. Everything worth anything will get shared and re-uploaded so don't freak out of nothing.
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>>377091140
>See this thread and think the steam forums are down
>check it
>Steam forums are still there
>only the old and outdated pre-2010 forums have been deleted
>its fucking nothing
WTF are you even sperging out about? Literally every fix and tweak that was on there, is also on the new discussion pages.
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>>377091140
who gives a fuck
they will host that shit anywhere for oldfags to read
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just wait until it happens to your library of games

>mfw they think steam gives a sht
>mfw they think their digital collection will last forever
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I think not allowing a mirror to stay up, or giving any notice so people can backup useful information was a real dick move.
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>>377092265
Yep, problems with steam versions. Other versions have other forums. Stop using Steam
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>>377092679
>>377091140
The forums are not dead/redirecting from what I see.

Steam still sucks, though. Gog is superior.
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>>377092679
>Valve drones
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Looks like valve kicked a hornets nest of autism
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>>377092952
You're retarded. Those aren't the Steam forums.
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>>377091140
1. Who cares? It was deprecated and slared to go years ago.
2. On the topic of "Valuable old Info"
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170131073900/http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/
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>>377093019
What's the difference
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>>377092529
This, how the hell did steam fuck up their UI so much? Why does it take forever to get to anything? I should be able to get to everything in 3 fucking clicks at most
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>>377092141
Because it doesn't contain that little 1 line of of characters in that sea of discussion for the fix
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>>377093019
> Changes the skin
> Those aren't forums any more. REEE!

Still looks like forums to me.
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>>377091140
Wait did people still use the old forums? WHAAAAAAAT?
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>>377091140
I emailed a contact at valve

they said this is an accident and just temporary
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>>377092529
>Not to mention it's so bloated with useless features like Steam voice chat, steam music, discussions, badges, trading cards.

I love how everything people joked about like music, anime and movies coming over actually became reality and is now on Steam. Valve really lost focus and just cares about middleman profits nowadays.
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>>377091424
>Now those fixes are gone
works on my machine
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>>377092952
I'm kinda worried they'll fuck up GOG eventually and then where will we go? Itchio is decent but has almost no games in comparison
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>>377093070
That's what you get for falling for the steam meme: a shit experience at prices that can be matched/beaten on other platforms.
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>>377091140
>>377093042
Also VBulletin 3.8.x is exploitable and migration to 5.x isn't easy, cheap or probably desirable for Valve since they have their own Steam Discussions.
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>>377092887
>le steam fearmongering
>"The single most popular gaming service on PC will just delete your library for no reason! See, PC sucks! Consoles are obviously the best choice!"
>Implying you can't just pirate the games back for free
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>>377093214
GOG is already in the process.

>Galaxy installer to be included with certain game downloads
I mean, it's not DRM and you can simply opt out, but they're getting there.
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>>377091140
Nigga just use archive.org.
It exists for a reason.
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>>377093218
Took a while for Steam sales to get beaten though
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>>377093218
I wouldn't say I fell for the steam meme. I only have like 5 games on there. Majority of my games are on other stores or are pirated
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>>377093280
So where do we go, anon? Do we pirate everything?
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>>377092529
It has extra shit, and I'm not saying "anyone who uses anything but steam is shit", but I don't see why /v/ suddenly hates steam so much, aside from being afraid of being called a drone. It's not like Steam is bad; it has its flaws, of course, but it's not like you're being fucked if you're using Steam over anything else.
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>>377093214
Thankfully Gog won't become steam any time soon because the CD Projekt Red has different values than Valve.


Gog wants to showcase good games to get players to come play. They have a stringent set of rules and will work with creators until they meet these rules. They aren't shoveling as much as possible on the platform with zero quality control in the names of profits. They know that becoming a crapware platform will turn people away.

Gog is committed to not having DRM and allowing users the freedom to do as they want with their games. Gog trusts it's users. This means no enforced extra features unless you want them as extra features can start to turn into DRM. This is why their community stuff (Galaxy & forums) is 100% optional. Steam doesn't trust the users and must police nanny with DRM and a billion features meant to "hook" you into the site. It doesn't help.

Last but not least Gog has sales and everything is in dollars with flat pricing for almost every game on the site. Fair pricing is important to them. Steam doesn't care: if they can milk a few bucks out of you for being an Aussie or something they will.

Mix it all together and the two are basically night and day. The only real similarities are the fact they both have games and do sales.
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>>377091140
What's a legitimate reason to hate steam/valve besides the fact that they don't make games themselves anymore? So far as they don't go out of business and take everyone's libraries along with them I don't see a problem with how they operate
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>>377092887
Physical versions of THPS5 and LEGO City Undercover on switch will be unplayable long before Steam goes out of business. The former is going to happen real soon, 2025 at the latest.
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>>377093554
That's a lot of fancy talk but GoG is actually a really lazy platform. 90% of the time all the release consists of is slapping a crack on it and shipping it with dosbox.
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>I currently have 344 games in my library
>I've used Steam for literally YEARS
>Didn't even know there were any forums besides the community hub
>Visit /v/ for like 3rd time in my life
>See only edgy fags that can't even Google properly / can't even wait for confirmation from Valve / are so edgy that they dismiss one of the nicest gaming platforms just because it's too mainstream

Jesus fuck and I've thought that people were joking when they said that /v/ is even more cancerous than all of /b/ /mlp/ and /pol/ combined.

Fucking kys you r9k subhumans
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>>377093571
The only good thing they've done for the users lately was the refund system, and that was under constraint because they were violating EU laws
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>>377093645
>90% of the time all the release consists of is slapping a crack on it and shipping it with dosbox.

Are you implying cracks have rights to ownership? Because GOG makes a deal with the publisher and do whatever to get the game running on modern system. If someone already did it for free, good times for GOG. I'll never understand why people made a big deal about it.
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>>377093554
Yeah, that's what they say and I believe them to a certain extent but all companies cave in to money eventually. Seen it plenty of times
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>>377093645
It beats selling games that don't work on most modern system and letting the user figure it out
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>>377093721
Okay? But can you name a flaw?
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>>377093571
The fact that they can randomly take games away whenever they want (ex: if they go out of business) is a huge problem right there. The rest is just company ethics with greed and trying to drive sales outweighing the common good. They're developed and run by marketing research guys, not gamers or developers, and it shows.

Things I noticed different between the two companies are here:
>>377093554


And just in case anyone thinks I'm making the company culture on Gog up, this info is on the Gog homepage and on the creator's section of Gog.
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>>377093582

>Physical versions of THPS5 and LEGO City Undercover on switch will be unplayable long

Why?
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>>377093554
Is this an old Steam-supporting pasta with GOG slapped instead of Valve?
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>>377093684
So leave. /v/ is cancerous but still one of the most interesting boards on this site. And relax, steam isn't perfect. Has plenty of flaws.
Also try to diversify your library or you'll regret it
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>>377093554
>Last but not least Gog has sales and everything is in dollars with flat pricing for almost every game on the site. Fair pricing is important to them. Steam doesn't care: if they can milk a few bucks out of you for being an Aussie or something they will.

This is one thing I like about GOG because fuck paying ~10-15% more simply due to Euro.
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>>377093970
Sure it isn't but this is just over the edge..

Why diversify when you can pirate the games. It's 110% legal to pirate software from which you have a proof of purchase. Just archive your Steam related emails anon.

I sure diversify but I like the social aspect of Steam the most.
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>>377093821
So far so good and they have been at it for a few years now. If anything they're slowly improving overall while steam is declining.

>>377093843
...like Steam? At least there's no random revokes on Gog and you don't have to jump though hoops for a refund. One time I tried to download from steam it was broken and it took half an hour of arguing with a non-native English speaker to get a refund. I left Steam after that.

>>377093742
The fact that they bother with cracks, updates, and getting rights shows Gog gives a damn all by itself. That's a lot of work.

>>377093645
You haven't been there lately, have you? It's not all decade+ old games anymore.
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>>377093928

Well if that happens and I want to play the game, I would pirate it, no remorse, I paid for it once, I won't pay for it again to play it on the same platform.
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>>377094151
>I sure diversify but I like the social aspect of Steam the most.
cancer
>>>/soc/
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>>377093943
No. Go to Gog's website. Ctrl+F "GOG.COM: ALL THAT IS GOOD IN GAMING"

Most of what I said is summed up there. The rest is in their creator's page and FAQ.
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>>377094178
Or just don't buy from a crap platform that can revoke your games on a whim. Problem averted.
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>>377094205
Back to >>>/r9k/ you go

>>377094225
You seem to be eager to trust a bunch of sentences on a website. Companies change Anon. One day you will remember this fanboyism and cringe.
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>>377093849
Come on man, there are a lot of good things about Steam (family sharing, easily join friends games, fast downloads speed, brought game prices lower than ever) but it's far from perfect. Poor customer support, can't launch your games if they're not up to date, no filter against all the shovelware, string of decisions that fuck most users (15 days delay for trades without the phone app, can't buy games to inventory), paid mods that are bound to come back, no more interesting holiday sale events
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>>377093571

They keep trying to insert themselves as the middle men in everything just to make a buck. It wasn't until paid mods that people realized why it isn't such a good idea for Valve to monopolize digital distribution.

Another reason is their top sellers list is bullshit. It's not based on actual sales numbers, it's based on Valve's profit. A high selling cheap game will be pushed out of the list in favor of an expensive game with lower sales figures because the expensive game generates more revenue for Valve.

For all their talk about customers and service and all that shit all Valve care about is making the most amount of money for the least amount of work possible and they aren't above deceiving their customers in order to achieve that. They're just a shitty company who only play at being nice when their back is against the wall and the retards keep fucking falling for it with their "BASED GABEN" shit.
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>>377093124
because all the old threads full of good shit got lost you mongoloid
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>>377092265
Eh no point in trying to get to most of these fucks

Its really fucked up, one fix in particular I often search for is the mw2 black screen error

Doesn't look like I can get to the forum page like you said
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>>377094428
>2k17
>public website
>lost

How is the mental asylum anon? Is the food ok?
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>>377094357
If that changes I will leave and so will everyone else because the company has gone against it's core principals. And they know that, so a complete change to steam level of bullshit is unlikely.

Besides: every game is DRM free. If they did do something stupid a billion ready to torrent copies of their games are floating around.
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>>377094292

Why not? Good download speeds, no need to hunt for patches, one click installations, people that pay money for your item drops.

The last game I paid full price was Bioshosk Infinite, and I bought it by selling items on the steam market.
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people will still defend this shit company

amazing.
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>Open link
>It's all still there

PCbabs?
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>>377091140

steam is reorganizing it's forums. Big fucking deal

>>377092013

Steam or parts of it will never shut down. Even if Valve shuts down, another company will buy the platform.

The industry can't afford to let Steam die because it would hurt their solvency. Customers will lose their confidence on DRM platforms and revert to piracy en masse.


>>377094292

See above.
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>>377092529
Steam feels like what a crazy garage inventor, you know the person who tries to build helicopter with landmower engine, would do if he could secure actual funding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHgxd39Uqx8
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>>377092867
Then how can't I access a forum thread from 2013 about a Hitman Blood Money audio fix?

Google a bug from a game on Steam, just fucking try to get on there, stupid.
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>>377094570
Gog already does patch hunting/updating and has one-click installs. Also freebies like icons, manuals and sometimes soundtracks.

The only thing it doesn't have are morons paying for virtual items on a taxed marketplace. That's a very special kind of userbase right there. Football helmet special.
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>>377093124
They're different you chimp consolefag
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>>377094667
>Even if Valve shuts down, another company will buy the platform.
Why the fuck is a new company going to let you keep all the games that you haven't paid them for? The first thing they will do is retract all of your licenses.
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>>377094667
>Steam is too big fail

This is just baffling to me. How ignorant of history are you? Companies worth far more than Valve doing work far more important than fucking video games have been left to fail many, many times throughout history. Steam wasn't even the first digital distribution platform. Do you know where all those platforms are today?

You may as well be claiming Gamestop is too big to fail because it's just too important to the console industry. Or Blockbuster is too big to fail because it's just too important to the movie industry. You're a fucking moron.
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You should have seen this coming. There hasn't been a link to the steampowered forums on any Steam page for years now. They've been actively encouraging people to move to the new platform instead.

What did people even still use them for anyway? Any game's "discussion" community page has all the important stickies and PCGamingwiki has the rest.
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>>377094803

Nah man, I'm not paying with RL money anymore, I have enough in items to buy at least 5 AAA preorders, or 100 games on sale.
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>>377094856
they could do that whenever they want. If they wanted they could lock you out of the platform and all your games and force you to pay a monthly fee to play the games you have bought. You don't own any of that shit, they do. You are just licensing their games on their terms.

I get the same vibes from those who loved and praised Steam around 2011 (/v/ and reddit) as I get from Hillary voters
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>Shilling for a Polish-tax-dodging-Cyprus-based company

wow /v/ found a new low
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>>377093280
The galaxy installer is only there because people whine about not having an overlay, a game auto updater and various other shit.
Not GOG's fault. To grow they need to give their customers what they want. Don't shit on them, we are the ones shitting on ourselves
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>>377092952
Try googling a fix from an old steam game. Hitman Blood Money perhaps?

If you try to get on to the old Steam forums, you're redirected to the new forums. It's not a skin change, they killed years worth of game fixes, patches and information without an explanation.
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>>377094881

The last time I checked it was big name faggots and their fans discussing about the same shit all the time. A huge hugbox, full of backseat mods, and salty mods blinded by power.
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>>377094941
> I have enough in items

...because that worked so great for Blizzard...
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>>377095038
That is some ass-backwards rationalization, anon
>don't blame the company for becoming exactly what we don't want them to become, they have to do so to become exactly what we don't want them to become!
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>>377094856
>>377094870

These are good points but, again, they will make compromises to ensure that people won't switch to piracy permanently, as long as it's legally viable to do so.

Steam is successful because it has convinced many (poor) pirates to buy and play games legally.
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>>377093554
GoG just sells abandonware and that's it
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>>377095104

Except Valve is the one making the most of it, they get 15 cents for each dollar and I doubt they will close the market when they keep pushing it on every game they release.
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>>377095167
That's not true.
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>>377095128
Did you even read my post? People want the GOG galaxy. Everyone was so happy when the released saying shit like
>GOG finally catching upto steam
>GOG finally out of beta
>Finally can make the move to GOG now
People want the GOG galaxy. That's the reason it exists.
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>>377092529
>voice chat, steam music, discussions, badges, trading cards
Valve employees needed something to do, since they're not developing any games. Blame boredom.
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>>377093684

>Blah blah
>I'm cooler than you fags lmao steam is based

That's gr8 m8 but I dislike the bullshit they've been pulling for the past few years and so I'm moving away from Steam as a platform. Only problem is you can't really do this without piracy or missing out on lots of games for PC
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>>377094870
Not him
Valve is pretty unique because it has very little overhead with incredible profit margins
They have few employers, little physical assets to pay for, the only money sink concerning steam is the bandwidth and thelittle support they're continuously working on decreasing through stuff like automated refunds. They don't even have any risk, because unlike physical stores they don't have to buy games in advance hoping they sell while paying for storage and such
Barring any major fuckups or changes in the system, like the law regarding digital goods, there's really no reason for them to go away anytime soon
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>>377095263
>falling for their lies
Kiss your games goodbye once steam is finished.
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>>377095263
4 (four) years ago.
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>>377095167
Nope:
https://www.gog.com/games?sort=date&page=1

Scroll down and look at all the recent games.
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>>377094498
the website was taken down with no warning

spotty archives are now the only source of backed up data from it

data has been lost

since when did public website preclude anything from data loss
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i posted some pretty juicy stuff there years ago
glad that shit is gone
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Hopefully this means steam is dying. PCs are not for gaming.
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Good! Back in my days when we pirated a game and had a problem with it, we solved it ourselves!
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>>377095270
Yes anon
>we like gog because it's not like steam
>but to become popular, it has to become like Steam
>continue liking gog even though the reason for liking them in the first place will disappear
The logic just doesn't work anon
You can't have the cake and eat it too
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>>377095149
>they will make compromises to ensure that people won't switch to piracy permanently
And what if they stop piracy? At least the mainstream googleable piracy we have now. In the early 90's, you had to troll through dodgy warez sites to find downloads of software and more often than not, you were downloading a virus.
More and more countries are falling in line with the copyright law firms and there will be a point when there is no place left to host piracy sites without law enforcement swiftly kicking your door in.
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Depriving people of their bought e-goods is against the law in the EU and no, EULAs are not worth anything in court. If Steam were to shut down and deprive millions of Europeans of their games, entire fucking governemnts would out for blood just because how massive of a consumer right breach that would be.

In short, Steam is never going to shut down, not even after technology transcends the need to having a platform like Steam.
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>>377095220
> Company enforces cancerous marketplace that ruins players experiences
> Players are unhappy
> They buy more from Steam to try to cheer up

Sounds like an endless cycle. Wonder how long until people get fed up like with the Diablo III Auction House.
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>>377095451
We'll just run it over satellites at that point
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IM NOOTROL!
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?

I still see the forum

#fakenews
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>>377095149
>Steam is successful because it has convinced many (poor) pirates to buy and play games legally.

No it didn't. The piracy rate has only increased since Steam's introduction.

Steam was successful for two reasons; Steam sales and the fact that it's an idiot's interface for running games. Steam sales are dead and I don't really know how much of an impact the idiot's interface aspect has considering it's just running on top of an already existing idiot's interface for running games, i.e. Windows. Steam's prolonged success is little more than stockholm syndrome these days.
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>>377095443
Galaxy is the good parts of steam with the shit removed.

No DRM. No marketplace. Groups and chats? Ok. Achievements? Ok. 100% optional if you're not into that shit. Great!

It's as close to having your cake and eating it too as you can get.
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>>377095263
>implying it won't be jewgle, microshit or facefag buying up steam when the time comes
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>>377095443

>We like GoG because it has DRM free games with quality control, price-matching across regions and good customer support
>But if it gets a launcher everything is FUCKED and I may as well move onto uPlay
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its nice to know /v/ has a new pet now
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So their shutting down all the forums that have been abandoned for years? Why is this a problem?
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>>377095032
You know Valve trades from Luxembourg for a reason right?
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>>377095462
good luck trying to prove you actualy own the games though, tehcnically you just rented an app.db files, that's the hard evidence that''ll show up in court. As long as you've agreed to Steanm terms and services you're shit out of luck, the government doesn't care about your games desu
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>>377091140
>forums.steampowered.com/

The only day i will love steam is the day they have an option of downloading games without steamworks or anyform of steam tethered services in any game files.

Too bad it won't happen.
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>>377095451
*early 00's
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>>377093941
Because the actual fucking games are a digital download. The only content on THPS5's disc is the tutorial.
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>>377095546
...an optional launcher that only really runs on Windows anyway at that...
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>>377095647
>good luck trying to prove you actualy own the games though, tehcnically you just rented an app.db files,

Amen to that. It's good to see someone actually has read the TOS for once.
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>>377095519
>No it didn't.
Yes it did, dumbfuck. Before Steam, Russian pirated 99.9% of their games. Now, Russia is Steam's second biggest continental European market after Germany and third European market overall after Germany and UK. Russian is the second largest language group on Steam with 18% of all Steam downloads being in Russian. Steam singlehandedly turned Russian gamers away from piracy, so eat shit.
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>>377095443
Idk if you are just stupid or you can't read. /v/ isn't all of pc gaming community. The pc gaming community wanted gog galaxy. So gog gave pc gaming community gog galaxy without drm.
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>>377095647
Yes and technically the court will tell Valve to fuck off
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>>377095669

Oh, I completely forgot about that, well shit sucks then.
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>>377091140
>They now solely redirect to the discussions hub

so what's the problem? that's where I always went to find fixes and shit
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>>377095647
>tehcnically you just rented an app.db files
Dumbfuck, if you've payed for e-goods, you own the right to use them. The TOS and EULAs are worth less than toilet paper in EU courts, we have our own consumer right protection agencies and laws that do not allow people to be scammed.
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>>377095791
OP's fussed that the old threads that were on the forums have been deleted. They were full of good information.
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>>377095706>>377095781


I dont need to read the TOS to know you've been fucked and dont actually own anything, the TOS is designed to cover the companies entire ass from cheek to asshole and in every situation and it will cover the aspect of ownership and why their consumers don't actually own their games and how steam is a rental service but you agrees to the TOS. If I am a digital service company there is no way in hell I wouldn't have a TOS to cover my ass knowing my company won't be around forever.

The European union can't convict an American company for loosing proterty consumers never technically owned in the first place. Im just saying never, ever, ever in your life, ever, trust a corporation with anything, they exist soley to siphon money out of you for nothing in return. They don't care
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>>377095873
What the court will rule is that you acquired a license for x product
>TOS
>relevant in EU consumer protection court
lmao
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>>377095823
>Dumbfuck, if you've payed for e-goods, you own the right to use them.

fucking kek. In 10 years you will know what you own and what you don't own. You paid for air and once steam servers go down you will realize it the hard way. The court can recognize air all it wants, your ''''property'''' is still lost forever. I'm talking beyond the courts the long game, you already lost your games before it begun. Think real hard and deep about this.
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>>377095263
Haha, he actuallly believes this shit

If Steam is ever in such dire straits that they risk going under, that shit is going to be absolute bottom of the list on priorities, if it ever gets addressed at all

Your games are FUCKING GONE if Steam goes tits up

thankfully video games will probably be illegal or humanity will nuke itself into the stone age by the time that comes close to happening
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>>377095745

Russia, a country of 150 million people and the second largest userbase for Steam, accounts for only 5% of Valve's revenue.

They aren't buying shit, they are just playing F2P crap and pirating everything else. Eat shit yourself.
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>>377095873
Why do people just fucking continue to throw this 'own gaem' point around like it's anything but arguing pointles semantics
You never fucking owned your games or books or games or movies or songs, you owned a license to consume that product and a physical medium carrying the data. In the case of digital products you still own a license, only the method of conveying the data is different, downloads for Steam
Why on earth would you believe that the Eu consumer protection would get hung up in this subscription nonsense when all signs point towards it being the regular ass license ownership that has been around for like a century
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Never used them, there were no fixes there that you wouldn't find elsewhere.
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>>377095584
They were still very active and were a treasure trove of over a decade's worth of information, fixes, fan patches, and all sorts of other content. Especially mapper's resources like tutorials and content. All of it is fucking gone with zero warning.
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>>377095973
If I'm still playing these same games in ten years, fucking kill me.
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>giving a company control over your entire gaming library
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>>377095973
>You paid for air
But I'm not a gogcuck paying for literal air by buying repackaged game torrents, LMAO.

>once steam servers go down
Once Steam servers go down I won't have to worry about games, because I will be dead for a good long while.

>The court can recognize air all it wants, your ''''property'''' is still lost forever.
And then the company will have to compensate or face charges. I don't live in a cucked country where consumers have no rights.
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who /gog master race/ here?
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>>377096198
>But I'm not a gogcuck paying for literal air by buying repackaged game torrents, LMAO.

tfw literally 50% of my library is from gog

fug dude
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>>377095943
>>377096036
Who are you going to sue exactly? If steam sells their business and dissolves the company, you can't sue them. The new owners have no obligation to honor a contract you had with another company.
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>>377096243
So 50% of your library are repackeaged game torrents with a gog label slapped on the installer? LMAO.
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>>377091140
they had forums?

during the entire time i have had steam (since it started) i honestly never knew they existed.
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>>377096243
gogcuck detected.
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>>377091140
Literally fake and gay
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SpecialK_Mods/discussions/3/1334600128973500691/ im giving it as a example
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>>377096243
>legal
>high speed
>no malwares
>easy use
>no drm

i'mok with this
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You know how I know that gog is shit? It's because gogcucks are insecure as fuck and have to make threads like these. In reality, gog does not compete with Steam. Steam is the chef serving his clients exquisite food, gog is the crafty beggar collecting breadcrumbs from under the table and selling them to the insane.
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>>377096325
>steam forums
>links to steam groups
huh, so this is what it's like to be retarded
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>>377096384
t. drm cuck
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>>377096036
Because by renting a license instead of buying a produce I lose the ability to share/sell my game.

>>377096140
>but its so convinent!
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>>377091140
>It's an EA employee shits on steam thread
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i'm the only one who cracks their steam games to remove the drm?
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>>377091140
have anyone tried the way back machine on this?
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>>377096140
>playing games more than once
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>>377095973
>You paid for air
When you buy games on Steam, you at the very least pay for cloud save game storing service, so you are objectively wrong. When you buy games on GoG, you literally pay for air. You are retarded.
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>>377096586
Basically, yes. Steam is full of lazy morons who can't hack and don't want to use Gog because GABEEEN!
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>>377097087
If you want DRM free games, you pirate them. If you want to get an actual service with all accompanying bells and whistles like cloud, firends lists, forums, an actual community that does not consist of 3.5 people and so on - you buy from Steam. You have to be literally insane to buy from GoG, there is not a single reason to do so.
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>>377097315
Bump
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>>377097315
>Thinks programmers, artists, voice actors and more are paid in love for their games and wishes
> Also can't scroll up and read.
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>>377091140
Good, spuf was a shit hole with obnoxiously strict moderators. Better to leave it to individual developers in the game's discussion board.
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>>377093684
>kys
Reddit detected.
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>>377092887
Steam have a monopoly on the PC market, it won't last forever but you're delusional if you think it's going anywhere any time soon. Valve make millions doing literally nothing.
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>>377094151
Nah, it's fair criticism. Steam is pretty bad. Yeah, it has more social stuff than most of its competitors but it also fucks up plenty of things others get right
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>>377093314
What beats steam sales? All I can really think of is Humble but that shit is for steam games too.
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>>377097672
>Thinks programmers, artists, voice actors and more are paid money depending on how a game sells
LMAO, you don't know how contracts work, shitstain. Unless there's a specific clause in the contract for people getting EXTRA payment, they get paid a fixed amount regardless of how a game sells. By propagating the "devs need to eat too" meme you're siding with the publisher, who rakes in most of the profits, not the devs, who get paid anyway, so keep on sucking that corporate cock, nigger.
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>>377099424
>What beats steam sales?
Key reseller sites and I'm perfectly OK with that as a Steam user, as 99% of those keys that are being resold are Steam keys. That's another disadvantage of being a gogcuck, you get cucked out of the best prices on the market, since barely anyone resells gog keys.
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>>377095167
>GoG just sells abandonware and that's it
Quality abandonware.

They also sell brand new games without DRM and allow you to connect your Steam account to GOG in order to get games added to your GOG account that you own on Steam every now and then for no cost.
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>>377099701
That sounds pretty fucking awesome. is that a monthly thing they do or what?
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>>377099701
>Quality abandonware.
Yeah, quality abandonware that used to be available for free without any legal repercussions, even though the term "abandonware" is not defined in legal terms, before gog cancer swooped in and killed abandonware sites. Gogcucks are literally defending anti-consumer practices, holy shit.
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>>377099768
gog.com/connect

https://www.gogwiki.com/wiki/GOG_Connect

It can happen whenever. I recommend checking once per week. The only downside to it is that you have to keep an eye out instead of them adding those games to your account automatically.

>>377099982
Abandonware that comes with digital copies of the original manuals, high-quality soundtracks, wallpapers, and other goodies. You aren't just buying a game when you buy from GOG.
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>>377091140
>"nvm it worked"
>"it workds for me"
>"i found the solution"
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>>377100096
>"PM'd you the fix :)"
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>>377100086
>digital copies of the original manuals, high-quality soundtracks, wallpapers
All of that shit used to be available for free, you fucking shitstain, and a lot of it is still available with NO legal repercussions at all, especially vidya music.

>You aren't just buying a game when you buy from GOG.
Of course you're not, you're buying literal air and putting that money exclusively into the pocket of the publishers, since most of the devs responsible for making those old games are long since dead or the dev teams have changed so drastically they're not the same dev teams anymore.
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>>377100118
>"This question has been resolved, look through the forums. This thread is now locked"
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>>377100086
Neat! Thanks anon!
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>>377100225
>All of that shit used to be available for free, you fucking shitstain, and a lot of it is still available with NO legal repercussions at all, especially vidya music.
Yeah man, those GOG-exclusive wallpapers sure were available for free before GOG. Same thing with these papercraft cars.

>Of course you're not, you're buying literal air and putting that money exclusively into the pocket of the publishers
How is that any different from any other digital distributor? The devs have already been paid their wages by the time you can purchase the product. You seriously aren't stupid enough to think that developers work via commission, are you?
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>>377100452
>How is that any different from any other digital distributor?
because with other digital distributors like Steam, you actually pay for a service, not for air. I guess gogcucks can't even imagine what it's like to never have to worry about your saves ever getting deleted or your screenshots lost, because you can just upload them to Steam cloud.

>GOG-exclusive wallpapers
Does gog draw those wallpapers themselves, LMAO? No? Then fuck off, I can spend 5 minutes and make the same wallpaper for free for myself, because the art is sure as hell available for free.
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>>377100225
>money exclusively into the pocket of the publishers
You do realized that's what happens when you buy new released, too, right?
>but they'll keep those devs around if you buy new games
Most devs are let go by the time games reach the shelves. The days of rockstar dev groups is long dead, anon.
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>>377100602
>I guess gogcucks can't even imagine what it's like to never have to worry about your saves ever getting deleted or your screenshots lost, because you can just upload them to Steam cloud.
GOG Galaxy.

>Does gog draw those wallpapers themselves, LMAO? No?
Yes.

>I can spend 5 minutes and make the same wallpaper for free for myself
You can, but you didn't.

>because the art is sure as hell available for free.
Not in resolutions high enough for a wallpaper.
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>>377093190
underrated kek
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>>377092887
this tbqfh famalam
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Am I the only one who uses Steam exclusively because they are nice to the average Linux user? Voting with your wallet and shit? Like buying specific hardware not because its the best bang for the buck or the most powerful piece but because you support the reason behind it?
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>>377091140
my forums still work
don't know what your problem is

could it be that you're another butthurt Sonybro trying to spread hate?
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guyss how do i doenllaor d from piracy sssteliaris modlist?help
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>>377091140
forum was dead for millennia, what are you talking about?
> along with literally thousands of user fixes and tweaks
Don't worry, all of them migrated to community hub years ago.
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>>377095050
still seems to work
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>>377101506
Works for me too. Searched for Hitman Bloodmoney controller, found a thread from 2014 and it literally worked for me.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/6860/discussions/0/648814845409058986/?l
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>>377091140
i click discussions and its still there
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>>377101643
nice
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