Devil May Cry thread

he knew how to make a game that was more fun to play

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>>377071914
>DMC3
>more fun to play
lol?

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>>377071813
Please don't shitpost with DMC1. I already have to deal with retards on a daily basis parroting that it's "clunky & dated" because they can't play it like DMC3 as is.

DMC3 has styles, more movesets and play styles to play with, superior antagonist who you can play as with style switcher on PC

The only thing DMC1 has is harder hitting enemies which doesn't matter when the combat gets repetitive quick

3>1>4

2 is so shit I can't finish it and DmC is alright as an action game but I can't consider it as part of the series.

1 is awesome. It's a bit outdated in combat mechanics, but it's so solid and well designed. Solid combat that still beats 90% on the genre, enemies that aren't afraid to rape you in the ass, boss fights are great. It's pretty much the game to follow if you wanna make an action game.

DMC3 expanded on the combat and had more budget and variety. Only problem is the enemies aren't as aggressive as DMC1. Still my favorite game of all time.

4 has the most combat depth, but as a game it sucks balls. Story that adds nothing to the DMC universe. It's just a one off adventure. Half the game is going back to the beginning with a different character. Bought it at launch and dropped it when i realized I was going backwards with dante. Finally beat it when SE came out. Again another budget problem. They made 4 with the budget of a PS2 game and thats why we got what we got.

I'm hoping Itsuno gets to make 5 and I hope he aint rushed and those jews at capcom give him a budget

>>377072446
>The only thing DMC1 has is harder hitting enemies
And far more aggressive.

>combat gets repetitive quick
Nah, you're just playing it wrong. DMC1 has plenty of tools to switch things up, the goal of compat just isn't mindlessly comboing shit into oblivion. It's far more direct in it's approach to combat and still better than the western action tripe that's released these days.

You fags probably think Ninja Gaiden gets repetative too.

>>377071813
>DmC better than 3 and 4
kys fucking shitter

>>377073069

I dunno how anyone can think DMC1 is repetitive when the game lasts 4-5 hours if you don't suck massive horse cock.

It's solid and well designed. Just feels simple after 3/4

>>377073069
>DMC1 has plenty of tools to switch things up,

You have the same exact play style, shit gets repetitive

>DMC3 mindless combo meme

Yeah go go try that on DMD against vergil.

NG has way more movesets and combo options than DMC1

>>377071813
DMC3 had more variety and depth in combat than 1 tho the enemies are less aggressive
>DmC above anything but DMC2
You're just wrong kiddo

>>377073653

DMC1 was the originator of the modern 3d action game. It's a solid well designed game that holds up today. It's just that 3 expanded on what 1 brought to the table.

Try playing 3D action games made before DMC1. They're godawful

>>377073501
I honestly feel like there's this preconceived notion that since DMC1 is old, people don't want to put the effort into any actual playstyle. Probably running around using the basic sword combos and helm breaker and calling it a day after beating normal.

>>377073796
Rising Zan isn't terrible and it predates DMC1 by a year I believe on the PS1. Controls could definately stand to be more responsive however. Maybe I just have a higher tolerance to what is considered shit/repetitive.

>>377071813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19s
el exterminador de demonios

>>377073796
Just saying yo, pretending 1 is more fun than 3/4 is just nostalgia talking. Same people who go and pretend the bosses in Demon souls are better than the later series

>>377074176
>pretending 1 is more fun than 3/4 is just nostalgia talking
How wrong can you get? I replay all three of these games to this day. DMC1 is great for trying to speedrun through because you can run through and kill shit quick with critical hits and shit if you know what you're doing. You're just looking for something specific when you play your action games, ie comboing, that DMC1 doesn't fill for you.

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>OPs list

>>377072043
>the battle system in any action game is not as important as the stage design
what the heck

>>377074452
>DMC1 is great for trying to speedrun through because you can run through and kill shit quick with critical hits and shit if you know what you're doing

Yeah, keep doing the same shit while in 3 i can actually play in different play-styles on the fly whenever i replay because unlike you i look for variety and options that make replaying action games worth it.

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>>377074746
There's just no arguing with you when I already spelled everything out for you. You are genuinely fucking retarded.

Don't take DMC1cucks seriously, they're mad that whenever people think of DMC it'll never remember the first one over 3/4 heck even donte is more remembered.

1 was just a halfbaked Residents Evil game that happened to be something different while 3 actually set the peak standard for action games

>>377072043
No one is going to read that

>>377074894
Yeah no arguing with a retard who genuinely thinks a game that provides more options in an action game is inferior to one that barely does.

>I have fun doing the same shit

Literally you

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PERSONAL OPINION

DMC1 = DMC2 = DMC3 > DMC4 > DmC

>>377072043
>USING
>ICYCALM
>AS
>A
>LEGIT
>ARGUMENT
Nigger, how retarded are you pretending to be? Ironic idiocy is still idiocy.

>>377075193
Why don't you try telling your stories to some soulsfags, dumbass. Why do Monster Hunter fans like doing the "same shit over and over"? Do you not realize how fucking stupid you sound? You're butthurt because you can't combo your sandbags, simple as that.

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>>377075201
>Someone actually likes 2

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>>377075396
I don't have any real problems with.

>>377075201
more like

DMC3 = DMC4 > DMC >>>>> DmC > DMC2

>>377075641
Genuinely curious to hear what you find enjoyable about it.

>>377075220
He's agreeable though.

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>>377075641
I don't buy it, and I even went through the effort of beating it on DMD myself. You're gonna have to tell me what exactly you like about it.

Because I could go on about what makes it actually a shitty game.

>>377075386
>Why don't you try telling your stories to some soulsfags,

You're talking as if Souls doesn't let you have multiple play-style and builds lol.

Monster hunter and all those hunting games are garbage for autist that like hitting damage sponges for 15 minutes either way is a completely different genre and seems like you're dmage controlling at this point.

Your mad as fuck that 1 is inferior as an action game and has no replay value compared to 3.

>cancerous souls infighting has spread to DMC

I'd rather it go back to DMCfags vs NGfags (all 5 of them). DMC5 is going to be a shitfest.

>>377075815
Only good thing about DMC2 is that vest. Dante's design in the promo artwork of that game is my favorite.

>>377075798
He's a fucking autistic criminal sperglord who spent years trying to 'promote' his shit-tier review blog on /v/. His arguments come down to literally "I haven't played this game when I was 8, and since even then I had superior taste and only played pure certified gold, this game is garbage". In his Wolfenstein 3D article he basically paraded the fact that his "friends" hated him for being an obnoxious autismo and that's why he hates the game with a passion. If you find this guy 'agreeable' you might be on the spectrum too.

>>377076095
This post isn't seething with hatred at all.

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>>377075815
>Dante's costume design
>soundtrack
>flipping
>twosome time, rain dance, etc
>Dante's DT design
>Majin form
>DT amulets
>simplistic Rebellion design, not a giant platinum hunk of metal
>Lucia costume design (+ DIESEL jacket outfit)
>DMC1 Dante with Force Edge (also changes the battle music iirc)
>Trish with Sparda sword and over-powered DT

>>377076183
It is, because you should hate human garbage like icycalm. Hate is satisfying and refreshing, even healthy. Hate is why I go boxing twice a week and shitpost on 4chan bi-monthly.
And, seriously, talking shit about DMC 3's aesthetic design is just fucking wrong. Yes, it is edgy Gothic bullshit, but it's that one example that pulls it just right, along with growly nu-metal vocals and faggy trenchcoats. And the fucking level design IS amazing, the tower is a well-connected giant area that is absolutely navigatable. That review has a plethora of words, but opinions in it are not backed up by facts or interesting fresh ideas. It's an autistic casual's view of the game (note, that he even takes a few sentences to try and convince the reader he's not autistic, when everybody on the net knows he's way past deep on the spectrum)

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>>377076090
Don't forget that OST though. I have to post these anytime DMC2 is brought up.

https://youtu.be/Mmx_ycWgfuI
https://youtu.be/K8aZjBd8sN8
https://youtu.be/bSB3bmwhEO4
https://youtu.be/m8xajhUnroc

>>377076232
>twosome time, rain dance, etc
It's iffy because it activates when an enemy is on the side or behind you. Guns in general are overpowered as fuck though.
>Majin form
Aka desperation easy modo
>simplistic Rebellion design, not a giant platinum hunk of metal
I'm an Alastor fag myself.
>DMC1 Dante with Force Edge (also changes the battle music iirc)
Looks funky on DMC2 Dante for some reason, DMC2 design is goat though.
>Trish with Sparda sword and over-powered DT
She's also essentially DMC1 Dante in moveset, which isn't a bad thing.


One thing I did like was how the guns allowed you to hold over your style meter at least to keep it going. feelsgood

Also the extra combos when shotgun is equipped is neat.

The terrible though off the top of my head, so I'll definately probably miss stuff:
>roflcopter boss
>moth boss
>trismagia (3 headed boss)
These 3 bosses, you can't do shit but fire your guns at them. This is terrible design, bar none.
>tank fights
>dumb wolves fights
>Underwater lucia levels

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>>377076846
>Aslastor fag
MY NIGGA

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>>377077070

>>377076846
>you can't do shit but fire your guns at them
you can use your air combo on them when they come close

>>377076683
Why would I hate someone that I find so agreeable his writing is synonymous to common sense to me?

He wasn't criticizing the Gothic aspect of DMC3's design, because he praises DMC1 in that review, and DMC1 was even heavier in that regard. He was criticizing DMC3's drab, copypaste quality and called its design inferior to DMC1's which had meticulously crafted camera angles and picturesque environments.

There is nothing casual about placing importance in this, because these things are more related to why Icy and I play games than the button inputs are. If we wanted to just challenge ourselves with extensive patterns we had to memorize and perform with exact precision repeatedly, we'd be doing something like programming for a living, but we aren't because that shit is for boring aspies. What we want is challenge for its ability to engage us deeper, and nothing beyond that, with the real focus in making the thing we are engaged with beautiful, ideal, intoxicating, interesting, something we couldn't get from everyday life. Otherwise I'd do the shit that essentially gave me the same experience but made me money.

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>>377077070
>>377077128
Dante made a pact with Alastor, it's his true sword in my book.


>>377077265
True, not to mention flying up to them. You won't be doing a great deal of damage this way however.

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>>377077361
>You won't be doing a great deal of damage this way however.
I'd rather do a mix of stylish stuff than just hold down square t b h.

DMC1 was less CUHRAZY than 3 but Dante was still a smartass

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>>377077361
Alastor's got such a cool design too, big old dragon sword coated in electricity.
Rebellion's fine but fuck if it aint boring in comparison.

>>377077275
>There is nothing casual about placing importance in this
Caring about aesthetics over gameplay is the most casual "reee normie" behavior

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>>377076846
>posted all those tracks
>forgot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjqdhnJeBXo

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>>377077467
Yeah, until your Devil Trigger runs out and you're stuck going back to mashing square to replenish it.

You're going to be doing a lot of mashing square either way.

Red pill me on DMC4 SE for PS4

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>>377077657
Shooting has always been the slowest way to replenish DT.

>>377077734
Devil May Cry 4 with Vergil, Lady, and Trish as playable characters, and a couple new cutscenes.

>>377077734
Dante gives up the demon hunting way to settle down with his beaux. Rebellion.

>>377077785
>Shooting has always been the slowest way to replenish DT.
I know, but that's not what I was getting at. When the boss is being a little bitch and just flying around, that's about all you can do. The moth boss aside, because he shits out all kids of larvae for you to kill.

>>377077734
1 waifu that is half baked and overpowered, 1 waifu that is near baked and underpowered with exceptions and one ludicrously op character.
Extra costumes for Dante/Vergil/Nero and recolors, extra costumes for waifus are preorder dlc.
You get bloody palace

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>>377077734
Do you like Vergil?
Do you like Trish?
Do you like Lady?
Do you like turbo mode?
Do you like Legendary Dark Knight?
Are fine with DMC4 still being half a game?
If you answered yes to all these questions than by all means buy it.

>>377077275
Dude, DMC3 had variety in environments just as much as DMC1 did. Neither you nor icycalm haven't played 1 in forever and it easily shows. The only DMC1 color palette not in 3 is warm sunset, but fleshy pinks and deep violets more than make up for it. DMC3 is also much more lavishly and interestingly decorated. Also, if you think high-level comboing is about pure memorization, you're a fucking retard. It's a high art, nigger, heavily based on improv and reading the enemies before they even consider a move. Vergil 3 DMD is there not to check your button mashing skills, not that a casual like you would understand.

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We're getting it this E3, right?

>>377077964
This image reminds me of how busted Baijiru is in Mahvel.

>>377078101
DMC is deader than Duke Nukem

>>377072043
yuh

1 > 4 > 3 > 2

Honestly 1 is the only excellent game. 3 and 4 just have cool combo mechanics, but are all flash with no substance. Terrible writing, terrible characters, horrible enemy designs, bad level design, and horrendous AI make the games a huge chore to go through when you aren't just juggling enemies like a clown or Tekken player.

And I really really hate DMC3 Dante. Him and Vergil are awful characters and I find it hilarious when people mock Donte then turn around and think DMC3 Dante is any less cringy.

>>377077734
DMC4SE essentially threw in a bunch of characters designed for Sengoku Basara, meaning the characters are OP as fuck outside LDK/Musuo.


Take for example, this is literally copy-pasted Lady:
https://youtu.be/9qz7JOCfdUQ

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>>377078101
God I hope so.

>>377078185
While I agree that DMC3 Dante is complete cringe, I have to say Vergil is a great character.

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>>377078101
I believe

>>377077734

Get it on PC so you can turn off the shitty motion blur and play with neat mods.

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Is DMC4SE moddable yet?

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>>377078467
yes, has been for a long time.

>>377078467
Yes, there's even a Gilver mod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giAwBz8_T_I

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>>377078467

Yes the Nips have been working overtime.

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>>377078536
>DMC1 Dante with Alastor
>Alastor with working lightning particle physics
LET'S ROCK- BABY

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>>377078536
>>377078537
well shit

>>377078032
>The only DMC1 color palette not in 3 is warm sunset, but fleshy pinks and deep violets more than make up for it.
This comment strikes me as funny. You treat these things like it has to hit a certain number of checks on a list, but it's not the case.

I disagree that DMC3 is as varied and well crafted, environmentally. It might be better on a purely graphical level, but not by much. The presentation is not as good, the theme is not packaged as well, and overall it lacks the more interesting mood that DMC1 had. Everything plays a part in this though, not just environmental designs. Mechanics do as well.

>Also, if you think high-level comboing is about pure memorization, you're a fucking retard. It's a high art, nigger, heavily based on improv and reading the enemies before they even consider a move.
Most of the journey up there is memorization. It's not compelling enough to make it that far. You certainly don't have to get that far to beat the game once, and there is no way in hell I'd ever think about playing it more than once.

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>>377078467

Also most are recolors and different costumes. Some are neat but ultimately pretty gimmicky. Fun to fuck around with though.

There's a DMC2 dante mod, but it looks kinda funky since that dante has the vest with a buttcape instead of a trenchcoat.

https://youtu.be/9NEpgdkekkM

DmC would be better if t-rex "leak" was real.

>>377078537
That looks like shit though. Thought it was Ruvik from Evil Within for a brief moment

>>377076086
NG vs DMC is finished, everyone knows NGB is the GOAT action game and one of the few 10/10 videogames

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>>377079009
I'll take it.

Is there a Nelo Angelo DT mod yet for Vergil?

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>>377079069
>NGB is the GOAT action ga-

Umm noo sweetie

>>377079193
Yes. Google it.

>>377079016
Anyone still have those images people made of T-Rex Vergil?

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>>377078185
How the fuck is Vergil an awful Character?

How the fuck are you pretending Trish and Mundus were better written?

>muh DMC3 combo meme

Yeah keeep pretending 3 doesn't offer much more unique playstyles while 1 barely has any.

1's shounenshit plot with muhh trish was less interesting than DMC3's brotherhood feud.

3 will always be the better action game solely for having more varied moveset and styles so go fuck yourself and enjoy Bayonetta QTEfest where presentation is put first before gameplay.

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>>377079193
Yeah, but you have to replace force edge to get his big sword. Looks cool in DT, but really weird outside it.

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>>377079284

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>>377079546
That's the one I wanted most, thanks breh.

>>377079069
NG2>NGB

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Daily reminder that Public Enemy is the best battle theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnGPTR228hw

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>>377079682
>Not Psycho Siren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5jNlLbTN5w

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>>377079682
My faves go to

https://youtu.be/FDOGUHmdzNY
https://youtu.be/K_tL_x1sMB4

>>377072043
This is such a shitty review, although he's actually completely right about the first game's environments actually being way better and DMC3 being a little on the drab side at least, although the game still had a few great rooms.

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>>377079842
Stuck in my head forever.

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>Favorite sword
>Favorite gun
>Favorite gauntlets (DB included)
>Favorite boss
>Favorite girl

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>>377080485
Same with me and Cerberus's theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE1ScwL4Jmo

>>377079842
My dude. This theme is so fucking good. I really wish we'd get a DMC game that went back to the sort of music in the first game.

I know we all like to meme about Taste the Blood and The Time Has Come but that shitty nu-metal was never really good. I wish the more electric, dark techno and metal-ish themes of the first game.

>>377080635
>Favorite sword
DMC2 Rebellion
>Favorite gun
E&I
>Favorite gauntlets (DB included)
Ifrit
>Favorite boss
Nelo Angelo 3
>Favorite girl
Lady

>>377071813
>DMC1 plays itself straight
Flock off, OP.

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>>377080635
>Favorite sword
Alasator
>Favorite gun
Shotgun/Coyote A
>Favorite gauntlets (DB included)
Ifrit
>Favorite boss
Vergil 3
>Favorite girl
Lady

>>377071813
I liked DMC when it was called Bayonetta

>>377080635
>>Favorite sword
Favorite sword is Rebellion, although Yamato is a very close runner-up. If we're talking weapons in general, I really liked Cerberus as well.
>>Favorite gun
DMC3 Shotgun
>>Favorite gauntlets (DB included)
Beowulf in general, although Gilgamesh had my favorite visual design.
>>Favorite boss
Vergil 2
>>Favorite girl
Woah, woah, woah she's a Lady

>>377080635
Rebellion
Pandora
Beowulf
Dante 2
Lucia

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YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA

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>>377080934
>Vergil 2
Brother

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>>377080998
Oh hai Mark.

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>>377071813
>started in release order
>even played the DMC demo that came out with RE:Code Veronica beforehand
>like 3 more, but still appreciate 1 a lot
>don't need to jerk off over how hipster I am by dismissing one of the most beloved entries in what is one of my favorite vidya franchises

Feels good.

>>377072043
I occasionally like icy, but his takedown of Itsuno is fucking dumb. He got relegated to DMC2 after it was already beyond saving (according to DMC1's developer), and DMC4 was only "bad" because it was unfinished, which was because it was Capcom's first HD era game and didn't know that it was going to take a lot more than they had allotted for it. The game would have been fucking god-tier if it were complete.

>>377078101
Yno

And even if it happen, it would have nu-Capcom quality.

>>377081023
I kinda hated how the third fight is only him using Yamato + the Force Edge. I thought it would've been greater if he used all of the moves he'd had to up until that point, but it's understandable why he couldn't.

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>>377081050
Anyway, how's your sex life?

>>377081349
>third fight is only him using Yamato + the Force Edge. I thought it would've been greater if he used all of the moves he'd had to up until that point, but it's understandable why he couldn't.
He uses Beowulf

>>377081467
No he doesn't. He drops it after the second fight and Dante gets it.

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You're in the club and this guy Million Stab's your gf's ass-what do?

>>377081467
No he doesn't?

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>>377080635
Alastor
Nightmare β
Ifrit
Nelo 3
Gloria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWUaIi1QZw0

I really wish we got this look. I hope it's an alt in a future DMC game. Shit looks so slick.

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>>377081631
Laugh at him until he is forced to leave the bar.

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>>377081631
Break his Helm

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>>377081805
Posted this before, but yeah, he doesn't have the coat in the castle concept art either.

>>377072043
Go away tameem.

>ITT people actually believe that aesthetics and presentations aren't more important in games than mashing buttons really fast
Fuck, if that's all you really care about, join a development firm that works within an Extreme Programming SDLC format and code for them. If mashing a set number of buttons in a particular order is what gets your "muh gameplay" boner hard, that'll do it far better than any character action game.

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>>377081903
When will Lucia come back?

>>377082030
Speaking of concept designs that needs to come back as an alternate costumes.

God, I come back here after all these years from my exile to /m/ and people are actually trying to shit on fucking DMC3. Fuck this board man that is the most blatant give me attention contrarianism that can possibly be achieved on this earth

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>>377082232
>When will Lucia come back?
Hopefully in DMC5.
>yfw the revving she hears at the end of DMC2 isn't Dante. It's Nero.

>>377080635
DMC4 rebellion, Alastor, or Nevan if we mean general weapons. Nero's dumb motorcycle sword is nice too.
All the guns in 3 because gunslinger in 3 was great
Vergil's version of Cerberus. Fuck them for making that sick kick launcher an ender for his DT'd spinny kick in 4
Any Vergil or Nero Angelo fights
Gloria. I wish she was more than blackface Trish.

1=3=4=DmC(DE because lol playing a 30 fps DMC)>>>>>>>2

>>377082225
even in the precious revolutionary level design and aesthetic DmC they had to go back and put in bloody palace post launch

nobody gives a fuck about the damn levels dude, it's not hurr ur autistic, nobody gives a fuck about the god damn levels

>>377082382
PC is 60fps

>>377082273
It's shitting on both sides. DMC3babbies who can't appreciate DMC1 for what it is, and butthurt DMC1fags. It's levels aren't great, but no one is going to actually say DMC3 is an overall shitty action game.

>>377082225
lol, just play Resident Evil 1-2 if you want something superior to the DMC1 aesthetics.

>>377082458
I kek every time someone praises DmC's level design, it's just fucking hallways and floating platforms.

>>377082563
why is this fucking happening, can't we just enjoy dmc, why the fuck is there a war between the same franchise, what purpose is there to that

>>377082382
>All the guns in 3 because gunslinger in 3 was great
My man. The mark of any scrub is claiming that Gunslinger was useless. There was no truly useless Style in 3 and GS was fun as fuck to play with.

>Vergil's version of Cerberus. Fuck them for making that sick kick launcher an ender for his DT'd spinny kick in 4
You mean Beowulf. Agreed. That shit was such a cool launcher. I kinda wish they weren't chargeable in 4 because I liked it when Dante and Vergil used Beowulf differently in 3 but I understand why it was and it did give you more gameplay options.

Regardless of DMC5 being announced in e3 or not, we'll know for sure if DMC is dead
Itsuno said he'll show the game he's been working on this year

>>377082458
Of course they did to appease the autists. Bad game design centered around some weirdo glorified take on simon says/coding for extreme programming sdlc isn't all that engaging in ways a VIDEO game can be. It's all game at that point and no video.

>>377082585
I do. Not entirely sure where you guys thought up of the idea that I think DMC is at all a good video gaming series.

>>377082873
go to a souls thread if level design aesthetics matter so much, fuckwit.

>>377082701
No new games, has everyone on edge.

>same franchise
DMC1 and DMC3 are also very different from each other, with very different goals of combat in mind. Not too far fetched to see why there's differences in opinion.

>>377082873
>glorified simon says
can you just find something else to do please

>>377082701
Don't even bother.

This mentality has been going strong for a while and is what killed the community of these games. Just ignore it and move on.
Even these threads have the potential to be chill DMC threads sometimes, and if this one fails to be that, others will come eventually.

>>377082816
Low key, just a secret between us, I hate DMC4SE Vergil soley because of the Beowulf(no idea why I said Cerberus earlier) changes & his Trick changes. You can't Trick up at all in combat because he just fires a sword to teleport too and having Trick down be DT exclusive sucks. Fuck the sword teleports

>>377082935
Level design is the most important thing in video games because that's where the "video" and the "game" parts actually work together. Anything else that doesn't focus fully on it is objectively inferior as a video game just on the basis of not taking full advantage of the medium.

>>377083219
>autist mad that mashing buttons in a game where the order becomes more pre-determined as difficulty goes up isn't a good VIDEO GAME

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>>377083248
My brother, I hate all that shit too.

>>377083248
WHERE'S
YOUR
MOTIVATION?

>>377083335
>Level design is the most important thing in video games because that's where the "video" and the "game" parts actually work together. Anything else that doesn't focus fully on it is objectively inferior as a video game just on the basis of not taking full advantage of the medium.
With that fucking logic, Fahrenheit is the best game of all time because it's "video" and "game" work simultaneously always.
Kill yourself you fucking retard.

>>377083248
I still really liked DMC4:SE Vergil but I do miss the way he played in 3. Not being able to freely teleport does kinda suck, and he's a little too OP in my opinion.

But Concentration was a pretty kewl mechanic, and he had a lot of great new moves. I also kinda hated how he had more Crazy Combos than Dante did and moves that Dante really should've had, like Overdrive and Air Stinger. Oh well, there's always DMC5 if that's in development.

>>377083530
please for the sake of all that is good stop replying to him

>>377080707
I unironically enjoy listening to DMC3's OST. Same with 1 and 4.

>>377083530
But for most of the "game", there's no "game" to solve though (only in like the handful of sections where failure is possible.) So no, by that logic, it isn't the best video game of all time.

>>377083595
This, because the truth hurts.

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>totally forgot about Nevan's counter grab healing bullshit
>had no yellow orbs on hand
>grinded the fuck out of style meter during the stage

just fucking kill me guys

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>>377078316
>He didn't like 3 Dante

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>>377083886
>Using items
Where's your motivation?

Why does this smell so much like Dark Souls 3 vs Dark Souls 1?

Dark Souls 3 has better gameplay but Dark Souls 1 has better world design.

At least no one pretends DMC2 is actually the best.

>>377083384
Honestly all the new characters in 4SE are kind of ass. They're all just reused assets from sengaku basara, DMC3, DmC(Vergil's new basic yamoto combo is straight up taken from Vorgil and barely touched up to at least look different), and even Dante from the same game. What a load of shit. I bought it even though I knew all this before going in because I fell for the "Capcom's gonna kill DMC if you don't get it!!!" memes
>>377083521
*shoots a sword and teleports in front of you*
die scum...
>>377083579
His new moves aren't new at all. I guess if you've never played the games they're from they'd feel new, but I've played 'em and dammit, it's just lazy. Concentration was interesting though, I'll admit

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>>377083886
>tfw remembering that I always went into the Cutscene Library and fucked my pillow to the scene after you kill Nevan where she falls back into Dante's arms and moans and you see her tits jiggle

>>377084110
Wow I beefed that spoiler, oops

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>>377084084
>Dark Souls 3 has better gameplay
>>>/dsg/

>>377084229
It's true though.

Objectively better with way more options.

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>>377084283
>way more options.

>>377084064
ey man its a yellow orb you still gotta do the fight over
plus like i said i didnt have the shit so fuck me

>>377084084
I'm not gonna start a souls debate but the worst souls game(whatever you may think it is) is nowhere near as trash as DMC2

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>>377079682
>>377079842
>>377079886
>Not Lock & Load
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH4qnO6k6Qk

>>377084110

>*shoots a sword and teleports in front of you* die scum...
I laughed way more than I should have and seeing
>Wow I beefed that spoiler, oops
made it so much fucking worse

>>377071813

doesn't really matter because Itsuno improved the gameplay tenfold

also DMC3 and 4 are plenty serious as well

>>377084084
DMC1 is more comparable to Demon's Souls at least. Best atmospheres in their respective series by far.

>>377084110
>His new moves aren't new at all.
Except that they are?

That one Yamato combo that leads into a Crazy Combo.
That one Force Edge combo where he actually runs and starts slashing everywhere, basically a Crazy Combo.
Any version of Drive that he has
Air Stinger
The double Rising Uppercut move he has with Beowulf
The way Rapid Slash works is so much better as well.
Heavy Rain Swords (speaking of, I hated the way Summoned Swords worked in this game; I liked it way better when you could only do one formation at a time and you had to carefully manage your swords; it's pretty much brain-dead in 4:SE).
Also, Judgement Cut End was kinda cool. Dangerously close to a generic screen-wiping super move but it was pretty damn cool to look at, can't lie about that.

>>377084548
he is saying they are recycled from other games they made, not that vergil had them in 3

As a fan of the entire DMC series, I think DMC 2 had the best costume by far. So fucking classy. I with people would react that vest/coat more.

>>377084631
Yeah I didn't realize that until after I posted. That said, he still had a few moves with completely new animations.

>>377084645
Wish* appreciate*
I'm a little drunk.

>>377084350
Well of course not, you'd have to be actively trying in order to make a game as boring as DMC2.

>>377084548
Judgement Cut End makes my fucking dicky stiffy every time without fail and as far as clearing the screen goes, I'll take that over Pandora's pulp fiction attack any day.

Well that's a little harsh, that thing is pretty fucking neat

>>377084816

>he doesn't like Pandora's mini itano circus

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>>377084645
https://youtu.be/lI4_Q1SplAk


The DMC2 trailer Dante didn't even have the black vest. The change really defined the look though.

>>377079682
>>377079842
>>377079886
>>377084373
>get DMC complete soundtrack on Spotify to play while grinding chalice dungeons in BB
>none of the ambient tunes like "ancient castle day" or "karnival" are on it
I GUESS YOU'RE NOT VERY COMPLETE THEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
They had the statue of space & time theme though thankfully, but only for DMC1 which kind of sucks because I love 3's, but hey at least there was one sort of ambient song

Hey guys, I think DMC2 is actually the best.

Everyone else is just to much of a pleb to understand it.

>>377084898
well no i love to get my macross on, I mean the actual screen clear where you just kick open the suitcase and a bright light exterminates the whole area

>>377085008
I've actually always thought that move looked cool as fuck, honestly. The way Dante just does it so relaxed looks so badass.

>>377085008
>I mean the actual screen clear where you just kick open the suitcase and a bright light exterminates the whole area

Oh ya that's a piece of shit. Even the captain america toss is more useful.

>>377084923
I have never seen that trailer. Thank God they added the vest.

>>377071813
I could never git gud at dmc1 once I hit hard mode, everything there always fucked my shit up so much I gave up

>>377085006
Dmc 2 is great, the only problem was the entire game could be completed with just pistols. It did add a few things though that would continue through the rest of the series. I agree that dmc 2 was better than most give it credit for. I like it.

>>377084923
Is it me or does the sword kinda look like Alastor? The handles don't but the blade itself looks pointed like it. It's not the toothpick that ended up being rebellion or any of the other swords that didn't matter in DMC2, that's for sure.

>>377085223
Take out the tanks and all the flying bosse(3 of them) and the game isn't completely terrible. Skyscraper boss, Despair embodied and the chainball hand dude were pretty fun bosses overall.

Lucia's disc with water levels however was inexcusable.

I don't like DMC2 Dante's costume. His coat looks bad and he's wearing his fuckin vest over it, making it look like he has buttflaps. 1's my favorite design, closely followed by 3 or Donte. 4 wasn't bad either but I'm not big on his assless chaps or vest

>>377080635
>Favorite sword
Nelo Angelo's sword from DMC3:SE
>Favorite gun
E&I
>Favorite gauntlets (DB included)
Ifrit
>Favorite boss
Credo
>Favorite girl
Lucia

>>377080934
>>377081023
Vergil 2 had a best boss theme

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Best design coming through.

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>>377085057
I really loved the idea of that weapon. It's a great concept. Pandora's box is a shapeshifting deathmachine with all these modes and functions and when you throw in gunslinger it goes totally off the rails, culminating in an ultimate attack which is just actually opening the damn thing. It's hella fun to mess around with using super dante so you can just keep spamming all its shit

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>>377085521
>1's my favorite design
Good t-
>closely followed by 3 or Donte
>3
>or Donte

>>377085521
Man. Dmc2 had the best costume. Second is dmc1. The vest is clean as fuck.

>>377085521
My dude, although Donte can go die in a fire, design and all.

Best design is Coatless 1 Dante, with regular 1 being right behind it. Never saw the hype behind his 2 outfit.

>>377085223
Yeah I remember back in the day the complaint mainly being that it was really easy to exploit/break the game and that dante was unlikeable and out of character in it rather than the hwole game being flat out dogshit in every way possible

was still enough that i never bothered playing it though

>>377085752
1 = 2 > power gap >> 4 >> 3

Purely design wise anyway

>>377085689
I dress like Donte. I love big ol' leather jackets and boots, that's my jam. Sorry

>>377085915
I completely Agree. The first two costumes were classy as fuck. I do think 2 was better than 1 though.

>>377085915
Coatless Vergil>everything you just listed

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>>377086102
I totally get it. Just gotta rep that OG design though.

>>377086297
Vergil is just in a tier of his own.

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Oldass IGN screenies without Dante's coat. Ugly UI too.

Anyone else here played all the games of the series finished them multiple times on up to the hardest difficulty, but has never bothered getting good. Like I doubt I could do any sickass combo and I never train I just find the fastest way to kill and spam it like crazy while dodging really well.

>>377086565
I actually still need to go back and beat DMC3 and 4 on their hardest difficulties, but with 3, I was starting to git gud and chain a lot of really cool combos together. Sometimes I would get frustrated, because of my lack of creativity, but it felt so damn good to open the game up that way and start doing all this crazy shit.

The only thing that really concerns me is Royal Guard. I've never been very good at it.

>>377083335
Shut the fuck up, icy. You don't understand aesthetics, design, games or anything else beyond your insane philosophical "musings" worthy of a 10-years old.

>>377086565
Played 3 & 4 a good bit, but if I take any kind of break for an extended period of time, I come back and completely suck ass. Probably why I enjoy DMC1 so much desu, because it's more mostly about reaction than memorization of a pool of moves.

>>377086878
Last time I went back to DMC3, I was a little rusty, but it didn't take TOO long for me to get back into it. I found it easier than Bayonetta, honestly.

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>>377086565
I've cleared 2 and 3 on all difficulties, got stuck on 1's hard mode and I got burned out on 4 because of all the backtracking. Got good at 3 because I fucking loved it, same with 4 but by the time I decided to give lady and trish a go I was burned out and never bothered doing stylish fights, I'd get S rank but I didn't any effort and cycled through repeated combos.

Unpopular opinion: DmC's re-release does more to fix the game than DMC4's re-release.
DmC DE added a proper lockon system, a turbo mode, fixed the way keys worked and added a hard core mode along with a ton of other fixes.
DMC4SE adds more characters, but there isn't any new content to use them in, so what's the point?

>>377087840

>DmC DE added a proper lockon system, a turbo mode, fixed the way keys worked and added a hard core mode along with a ton of other fixes
Oh so things that should have been in the game to begin with.
>DMC4SE adds more characters, but there isn't any new content to use them in, so what's the point?
New characters aren't content? The only thing that DMC4SE really needed was the second half of the game. DE could do nothing to fix the shit gameplay inherent to DmC, and it's not like it added any significantly new content either. The core of DMC4 is extremely well done so there's no need to fix anything.

>>377082225
I feel like there's more to it than you're letting on. For one thing, it isn't necessarily the button presses and high style meter, it's why you're pressing buttons and what is being measured by that style meter: the point of the game is to make combos that just look fucking cool, and if that's not presentation, then I don't know what is. That's basically the point of DMC3, just making cool-looking shit, and if you spam the same combos just because they happen to be high-execution rather than getting creative with them, then you're failing at approaching it even from a "gameplay-only" perspective.

It's true that Temen-Ni-Gru was much more drab and uninteresting than Mallet Island, and honestly, I would use that to count against DMC3. That being said, there is more than one way to appreciate a game. It's true what he who am I kidding, you're clearly icy said, that level design is as important as gameplay having established the previous spoiler, pardon me for using that word, but I really don't see one as absolutely having more value than the other in all cases. There are some games that focus mostly on the former at the expense of the latter and excel, and some vice versa. Even if it didn't have the soundtrack and story that most people mention, I honestly would still think that NieR is a good game; despite combat being lackluster, the dungeons were fun to navigate and to look at, and the bosses were generally rather well-choreographed and designed. That being said, per the remark about "would you still like this game if it only took place in one room," well, many of us DO in fact get a lot of use out of the Bloody Palace; some even more than the original campaign.

cont

>>377082225
>>377088457
Now, I admit that I couldn't really see myself buying it if it were ONLY Bloody Palace, but that goes to show the approach of the game: it has "sufficient" level design (honestly, I for one remember enough areas of DMC3 that I can say that it at least got the job done, even if it didn't excel quite like DMC1 did) which was a vehicle for the true focus, which ultimately winds up validating itself when you get to the post-game in which the gameplay does in fact exist in a vacuum and validates itself in that setting (though I suppose one still must bear in mind that it doesn't TOTALLY exist in a vacuum; remember that the point of the "gameplay" in this case is ultimately one of presentation, i.e. doing combos that look/feel really cool). It's basically the same idea through the opposite side of the lens, and it works in its own way. If you don't like that approach as much or at all, fine, but it does work at what it does.

>>377088646
>which ultimately winds up validating itself when you get to the post-game in which the gameplay does in fact exist in a vacuum and validates itself in that setting
I'm getting tired. My point still stands.

>>377071813
>DMC1 plays itself straight just like DmC, and tries to be just as edgy

I refuse to believe you have actually played it. Or any Kamiya game for that matter. There's no way you can be this obtuse.

>>377084923
Man, imagine back then, seeing this trailer, with Dante doing backflips, frontflips, wallruns and shit, it must've been hype as fuck. Then the game came out, and it was utter garbage.

>>377088285
>Oh so things that should have been in the game to begin with.
Well that's kind of his point, DE actively tried to look at what went wrong and rectify it, while SE's additions only further highlight DMC4 one, glaring issue, missing half the game. So now instead of playing the same game twice you're expected to play it 6 times, not even an extra boss, enemy, level, not even one new room to play around in

I will say I don't think anyone could complain about SE's additions, and there's no way they would've made half a game just for a re-release. In the context of "fixing" broken games DmC DE is far better at it, though I suppose that isn't saying much if the fixes were obvious and easily implemented, but in the context of re-release bonuses DMC4 SE is pretty darn great, had the game been finished originally no one would be bothered about it only adding new characters

>>377088869
Dude I was there. I was unbelievably hyped for DMC2 cause I thought, (and pretty much still do) that DMC1 was the hottest shit. Spent the night at a bro's and we rented DMC2, popped that shit into the PS2 and what ensued was only soul-crushing dissapointment. I knew even then that the game was shit, and that Dante was nothing like the one I loved in the original. Didn't bother playing DMC3 until years down the road after release after that.

>DMC1
>It is good. Sold well
>DMC2
>It is shit. Sold well because of DMC1
>DMC3
>It is great. Sold better because of DMC2
>DMC4
>It is half a great game. Sold alright because of DMC3
>DmC
>Whatever. Sold like shit because nobody wanted it.
>DMC5
?

>>377089890
Actually DMC3 sold like shit because 2 was shit so people assumed 3 would be. 2 actually sold very well, unfortunately. 4 sold better than 3 as well, because by then people caught on and realized that 3 was actually an incredible game.

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>>377079546

God I wish this leak was real. If the final game was this off the rails, I think it would have been a so bad it's good game.

I miss the DmC shitposting years on /v/. Good times.

>>377089890
>DMC5 directed by Itsuno and doesn't get its funding/dev time cut
>GOTY contender, may spark an action game renaissance alongside Platinum and Team Ninja
>DMC5 directed by Itsuno but with cut funding because shenanigans
>Probably on par with DMC4, which was technically unfinished but still excellent nonetheless. It will feel like more that it is due to 9 years of waiting
>Dragon's Dogma 2 by Itsuno
>We get a fun action-RPG, and some in-game DMC gear if we're lucky. DMC hype cycle begins again E3 2020.
>DMC5 directed by anyone else
>Up in the air, may or may not be shit. I personally don't trust the games outside of either Itsuno's or Kamiya's hands.

>>377090191

This 1000%

My 1st DMC game was 2, and I fucking hated that piece of shit. When 3 came out, my friend practically shoved the game down my throat. He swore they fixed it, and I'm glad I gave it a shot.

A shit game can hurt a series pretty bad.

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>>377090632
>>377090191
So what you're saying is DMC5 needs to distance itself as far from DmC as possible.

In other words, we can totally get a bait and switch reveal trailer where Donte gets knocked on his ass by Dante.

>>377090754
I remember this fucker deleted his twitter after DmC's release. Did he ever return after that?

>>377071813
Considering DmC a part of the series is foolishness, OP

3=1>4>>>>2

>>377090820
>In other words, we can totally get a bait and switch reveal trailer where Donte gets knocked on his ass by Dante.
I want a DLC chapter with Donte as a boss fight where you can kick his ass as Dante.

>>377089890
>Sold better
*Sold shit
DMC2 sold better than DMC1

Does anyone have the link to a dante vs vergil 3 youtube video with the spiral sword parry?

>>377091451
Maybe Donte will be in MVC. He could be the Dan to Dante's Ryu.

At the very least I could see his outfit as an alt in DMC5, along with outfits from the previous games. We're overdue to see the PS2 outfits in ultra high definition.