Final Fantasy VII Remake

My first reaction?
"I hope they don't screw up the battle system."

>>377057223
they better keep everything intact including combat and just spruce up the graphics with a few QOL changes.

>>377057223
I dont really care about the muh turn based debate but after the shitshow that was FFXV's system im worried

>>377057968
Yeah didn't the directer say something along the lines of "this game is the future of Final Fantasy"

>>377057223
If the combat is even remotely similar to FFXV I'm fucking skipping it completely. I want an RPG not a shitty action game with RPG elements.

>>377057223
It's going to be shit. The whole first "episode" will take place in midgard. Despite there being more content, the city will practically be dead. Say good bye to mini games.

Say good bye to the relaxing pace of exploration and soothing music once you finally inter the world map.

Say hello to shitty rock music and maybe even dubstep if they feel they aren't "current" enough. Say hello to shitty AI and summons with little impact.

I hope you enjoy this remake nu-gen, just remember you are not getting the experience that made people love this game many years ago.

>>377058886
FFXV's combat was excellent though. You have shit taste.

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>>377057576
didn't you see the new combat trailer awhile back anon

>>377057223
>So what was your reaction when you first heard about this lads?

Oh boy I can't wait to watch modern day gaming ruin my childhood favorite game.

>>377059046
>FFXV's combat was excellent though.
On the off chance that you aren't baiting go fuck yourself. You're the reason a franchise I loved has gone to shit.

>>377058886
FFXV has deepest rpg elements in the franchise though

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>>377059258
THIS so much it baffles me why 12 was relegated toward "black sheep" of the entire franchise yet it has the most in-depth system of the whole ABT/Real-Time Action battles

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>>377059046
You DO realize that it was as bad as the worst debacle of the company right

>>377057223
Extremely excited when it was first announced.

Lost absolutely all interest when they revealed it would be episodic with a different combat system.

I won't be buying or playing it. Will actively tell people not to buy it.

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Good bye cow tits

>>377057223
It's going to be shit. It's FF, an RPG and it's made by square. can't have more red flags. No interest in it.

>>377057223
>So what was your reaction when you first heard about this lads?

i played the original game again and savored it while also wondering just how badly its going be diluted for today's nu audience.

>>377057223
>Initial excitement
>Going to be released as 3 games
>Disappointment
It's gonna be a great day to browse /v/

>>377061367
>going to be released as 3 games
That's not what episodic means.
Its going to be one game released in three chunks.

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>>377060750
She's fine see look her breast are even weirdly shaped just the the FMV!

I think it could be fantastic.

Tons of people misunderstand the plot and character motivations in the original. This could be a great opportunity to explain better, if they take it.

Cloud's false persona and the insecurity that caused it, his actual personality warped by AC and KH

Tifa's concern for cloud (why she didn't correct his false account of Nibelheim)

Aerith's take charge attitude, warped by AC and KH

Sephiroth's actual goals

If they can give character moments that flesh out these issues, it could really be great. But they'll probably focus on stupid action again like AC did.

>>377061735
Tifa didn't say anything because she knew it would break Cloud's mind m8

>>377057223
Largely indifferent. The time for a remake was when the iron was hot years ago. Then concern because I am pretty sure they are gonna shoehorn in the rest of compilation. Especially that fucker, Genesis.

>>377062047
Yes, obviously, but a lot of people misunderstand that and point it out as a plot hole or as if Tifa is stupid.

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>>377062185
>mfw we never got a PS3 remake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVCYy8C5Av4

>>377057497
My first reason.
>they'll fuck it up and it'll be shit and I'm still going to buy it

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>>377062185
>Reminding me that Genesis is canon
Who the fuck even cares about the universe of VII anymore when they went out of their ways to butcher everything with all the spin off/companion games?

>>377057223
i thought it didn't seem like a good candidate to get a remake

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>links to kotaku
is that what's ok in this shithole now?

>>377062480
Exactly. I was hyped as fuck back then. Now? all too late. Same goes for KH3.

>>377062713
>now

Even if it's action, it needs to let the characters be customizable. Don't just meme Materia into simplicity please. Not that it was complex anyway, but I have a feeling it's just going to be basic abilities.

>>377061735
I wonder if Zack will get a larger role in the story barring any flashbacks

>>377063153
They said they arent really incorporating Compilation stuff so its unlikely

I was actually surprised at that.

>>377057497
I'd be more worried about the OST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UARM4q7hHU

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>>377061703
>big awkward tiddies
>no cleavage

What DID they mean by this

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>>377060750
She only looked like a retarded cow in 2-3 fmvs

>>377064048
Itd because you're looking underneath and not over.

>>377060750
They'll keep this at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuKSfF1rHg

>>377062713
>now

/v/ has been linking to Kotaku for the last nine years.

>>377057223
>So what was your reaction when you first heard about this lads?
I groaned because I don't want a remake and it will be hot garbage catered to "FF7 fans" who never played the original.

I'd prefer to have FF16, turnbased classic AAA rpg.

>>377062587
Yeah, that was pretty much my immediate reaction.

>>377062480
The thing that pisses me off most about that video is that almost no PS3 game that came out actually looked that good.

>>377065235
Yeah surely every true FF fan hates realtime combat. Get out of your bubble, you can always play the original

>>377065498
I'm not buying the remake, just like I didn't buy ff15, you are wasting your time shill.

>>377065452
>The thing that pisses me off most about that video is that almost no PS3 game that came out actually looked that good.

Yeah, tell me about it. There are even camcorder videos where you can see that it was running at 60fps.

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>>377065235
>he didn't like IX's combat system

>>377065689
I never said that you should, learn to read

>>377065452
Well, it was just a stupid PS3 Square tech demo

>>377057223

I'll tell the truth here... i was not surprised because this has been in talks for years and with all the spin offs and such, plus the old PS3 tech demo it was pretty obvious that some day it was going to happen.

Still, seeing the first gameplay images got me exited despise the fact that i've hated SE for years now and have learned not to trust them since this kind of early showcases are no more than marketing tricks.

Plus, you know... all those spin offs really fucked up the story and there is no way the expanded universe is not making it's way into the main game if only to have enough content for 3 games.

The episodic thing really turned me off, not only because of the waiting but because of the kind of content i think we should expect from it.
I am expecting expanded universe shit and tons of meaningless mercenary like sidequests...
I am expecting additional DLC episodes to play as the different characters and get the full background story... I am certainly expecing Yuffie, Vincent and Zack would be DLC characters... heck, i am even expecting Sephiroth to have his own DLC so we can see the Nibelheim incident from his perspective (and SE can make thousands of extra bucks because that would surely sell)

I am alright with the action based combat if they keep it as showcased (though i think they are gonna go full Advent children there) but i am really expecting them to fuck everything else up.

When I first heard about it I hoped we would get to explore more of the world. I always wanted to explore more of Midgar and the slums.

Then I heard it's going to be episodic and lost all interest.

>>377065735
Trance was shit.

It's going to be good but not for the purists.

t. game psychic

>>377065235

>I'd prefer to have FF16, turnbased classic AAA rpg

I would prefer this also but that ship's long sailed bro. It's time to let go man. SE has been shit for too long. There is no going back.

A remake is as close as it's gonna get and yes, they are including all the expanded universe shit, current gameplay mechaincs and business model on it.

AND if this ones performs well the rest of the classics are most likely to follow suit.

>>377066012
Its going to suck. The story will be messed up even more, the gameplay will be terrible, and the visual style will look bad and age like milk.

But it will be defended by hardcore Final Fantasy fangirls.

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>>377065452
>>377065709
That's pretty much to be expected with tech demos, as they merely exist to show investors what the hardware is technically capable of. Making a tech demo is not like making an actual playable fully functioning game so basically you're just making an FMV rendered in real time and that's it. Making a game that's playable and runs flawlessly on limited hardware is a lot harder.

>>377066301
All evidence points to the game being good, so I dunno senpai.

Really the only major complain I've seen that's valid is the episodic deal, but it makes sense when you consider it from the practical angle.

>>377066245
Nomura already said there's a push for IV & there's not going to be much "compilation" fluff in the remake on account of keeping it in the spirit of the original VII

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>>377066464
>All evidence points to the game being good

You mean this evidence?

>>377065870
If this does as well, they're gonna remake 5 and 6 in this style as well as they said.

>>377066634
Were those big machine looking things in the sky even in the game? Because I played the game for like 80 hours and I don't remember them.

>>377066716
Then hoo boy do I hope it fails hard.
A remake of any of the 2D FF games in modern graphics would be god awful shit.

>>377066718
No, they weren't

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>>377066634
>FFXV is evidence FF7R will be shit
>when they are handled by two entirely different teams and the context behind their development is astronomically different

It's too late in the day to be this retarded anon.

>>377066718
Old Kings of Lucis, they're in the last part of the game and in the movies.

>>377066464
>All evidence
I have seen absolutely none of that evidence.
All the evidence that I've been presented with would indicate its going to suck.

If they wanted to remake it properly, they really should have done it years ago on the 3DS.

>Really the only major complain I've seen that's valid is the episodic deal, but it makes sense when you consider it from the practical angle.
Considering every game that SquareEnix cut short to make 'episodic' bombed on them I wonder if they're going to reconsider that.
I could totally see them releasing FFXV FF7 Midgar edition, having it suck horribly, and them never releasing the rest of the game.

>>377066942
>I could totally see them releasing FFXV FF7 Midgar edition, having it suck horribly, and them never releasing the rest of the game.

Considering how hard they forced XV to appear to be a success, that's a pretty bad assessment. They'll do everything they can to make sure FF7R hits its marks, there's too much behind it.

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The only thing that's tempering my hype for FF7 is the episodic nonsense. I'm still hyped as fuck but that shit is always in the back of my mind. If each episode really is the length of a game and is fully fleshed out, I shouldn't mind too much. But knowing Square-Enix there's too much margin for error.

Went from "oh wow" to "oh wow that's sad".

From everything we've seen and heard, it's going to be horrible.

Poor SE are desperate.

>episodic
>30 hour game just in Midgar
Why? There wasn't enough story there to justify that length, so they'll add garbage mmo tier quests to pad it out.

I'd support a little extra content for Midgar, one extra mission with Bigs, Wedge and Jessie, but not this shit.

>>377066718
They were in the Kingsglaive movie and they appeared at the very end of the game for like 30 seconds.

The fact that everyone already screams that it's just XV combat slapped on FF7 already shows how blind and retarded everyone is.For you guys everything realtime is FFXV now

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>>377066907
Yea, I'm sure Square has learned from their past mistakes, and their past few games will certainly not reflect on the quality on the new FF7!

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>>377066942
Did you forget that the same guys who made pic-related are handling the release,it's going to be great

Who the fuck thought an episodic release would be a good idea for a jRPG? Also, wasn't this game expensive as fuck for them? Did they just forget a large number of people wait for episodic games to be fully released before buying?

There's no way this is going to pay off for them.

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>>377057223
I recently showed this to my coworker who knew that it was announced, but hadn't seen a single trailer. He's in his mid thirties now and he hasn't played video games since the PS1 era and doesn't have much time for vidya now with his kid and all, but FFVII was one of his favorites as a teen.

I showed it to him on my phone. I swear to god, I've never seen him that excited, or excited about anything to begin with. He was wide eyed at the teaser alone and actually gasped when he saw Barrett and Cloud walk onscreen. When he saw the gameplay trailer, he was so excited he was hysterically laughing like a toddler. He doesn't even seem to care about the multi-part bit.

Yesterday, he texted me a picture of a PS4pro and a Blu-ray copy of Advent Children Complete (which I didn't even tell him about, but apparently he loved) and asked me what games I'd recommend.

Final Fantasy VII is a powerful thing...

>>377067024
At some point even a Japanese company with honor on the line is going to have to stop wasting the money made with Dragon Quest trying to make Final Fantasy look like its still good.

>>377067175
FF13s main problems stem from how the story was handled, the director wanted a very guided experience like in FFX and thats what they made.

Then the sequels go in a completely different direction. Lighting Returns actually has a pretty interesting structure.

>>377066824
Not really. It's gonna sell.

15 had favorable reviews and won many awards. Sold 6 million so far.

Why do people even make FF threads here anymore? The /v/ hivemind has decided it hates anything Square related since XII came out

>>377066634
They're the old Lucii Kings, they stab Noct after you defeat Ardyn, so you can absorb their power and drive away the starscourge

>>377057223
>Being made by modern Square
It's shit.

Maybe I would have been hyped if they announced this shortly after 10-2, but instead they announced it after fucking up their franchise worse than sonic the hedgehog. There's no way it could be good.

>>377066634
Actually, the way this game turned out was the catalyst for my heel face turn on my opinion of the trilogy format for FFVII.

Used to hate the idea, now I'm pretty warm to the concept...

>>377067262
Advent Children Complete is actually good

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>>377067175
After playing pic related I've learned that you really can't prejudge a dev's upcoming projects based on their passed projects.

No, I'm not saying Horizon is a great game or anything but holy shit if you told me eight years ago that the people who shit out Killzone would go on to make it I wouldn't believe you.

>>377067262
Gameplay is action but target and menus with some atb. Plus auto team.

It's actually less action comparred to 15. They just removed the turn based aspects.

I'm imterested in of they do a ff5 and 6 remake in this style.

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first thought , I live in hell, second thought they are killing my memories.

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>>377067438
I gotta get off this site

>>377067283
Yeah, but that design philosophy, man. Weeaboo fucknuts eat that animu shit story up, but I just can't stomach it. And even what LR did in terms of gameplay and everything wasn't all that fun for me, and the content didn't help in the slightest.

>>377067298
>Sold 6 million so far.

Are you implying that's a lot or something? Because in a world where AssCreed and Cawadoody aren't even super popular anymore and still sell triple that in their first month of release, that's pretty sad that a game hyped as hard as FFXV only managed that many sales in six months. Besides, FFXV would need to sell at least double that to be a financial success for Square Enix.

>>377062185
they can't use genesis because of legal issues with Gackt

>>377067930
Rpgs dont sell much anymore. Besides total sales atent done yet. You are just being a troll because the gameplay hurts your ocd.

how will they even remake ff7? the original games had a shit ton on content, hidden secrets and minigames in the open world. I just don't see how consoles are going to manage all that. it's probably going to be a dumbed down linear rush through the main storyline.

>>377067552
The story is still all kinds of fucked and poorly written in ACC, let's not kid ourselves. The extra scenes didn't make it magically better. The music and the action are great but that's about all that's good in that film.

>>377068092
Thats exactly why its being split into 3 parts. Either that or they cut almost everything

>>377057223
>announcement
>hypest reveal of all time
>now the hype is completely dead and buried

Only Square Enix could fuck up this badly.

>>377068092
Vii was released on PlayStation

>>377068101
I dunno man, Clouds arc in there is what made the film. The remnants were a little convoluted but ACC does go out of its way to explain it more. I really enjoyed the Turks too and the extra scenes with Denzel too.

At any rate, its better than fucking Kingsglaive

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>>377057223
>worst fears of how they could possibly mess this up

I was worried they were going to split the game into multiple games and then they actually fucking did it

>>377068292
>It's better than Kingsglaive

It's funny how when Kingsglaive came out, /v/ said it was better than AC. Then /v/ rewatched ACC and realized, no, Kingsglaive is fucking horrible.

>>377068162
That's because SE insists on spending tons of money on visuals for Final Fantasy that aren't going to look good in 2 years let alone 20.

If I was in charge I could have made the whole game on a smaller budget than just the first 1/10th that we're going to get.
Every new Tales game released proves SE's claim that big RPGs can't be done profitably anymore is false.

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>>377068414
KG is a glorified tech demo, at least ACC tried to tell a story and be entertaining

>tfw even the fight scenes and visual direction were infinitely better

>>377068532
Nomura knows what he's doing on the visuals, the guy is an artist you know.

The old FF versus 13 trailers still look good to this day. Just compare the standoff scene with the revised one in Kingsglaive. The lighting, characterization, everything so much better and effective.

I had a sort of bitter sweet reaction and a crooked grin when it became obvious in the trailer what it was. I think I said out loud "so they are finally doing it huh?" with a bit of hype but I quickly reminded myself that it was more then likely going to be shit.

speaking of which. all the reaction videos on youtube are even worse. People watching the trailer for the "first" time and seeing them "react" or ask "what could it be" even when it was already painfully obvious. As if you couldnt tell what the fuck they were about to drop from the first 3 notes of the god damn intro song to ff7, the meteor logo and god damn midgar.

>>377068532
to be fair this still looks fantastic,it's a real shame that nothing ever came from it though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVX0OUO9ptU

>>377068212
7 was also a flash game compared to the graphical standards of today and also had no voice dialogue taking up resources or limiting room for writing. and the ps4 isn't all that strong

>>377068532

You're a fool for believing it won't look good after a few years. FF13 still looks rad as fuck. Shit doesn't need to be cutting edge to be memorable or beautiful.

>>377068703
>Nomura knows what he's doing on the visuals, the guy is an artist you know.

He's the George Lucas of Final Fantasy.
He hasn't done anything good since he got too big for anybody at SE to tell him no.
Killing FF7 is probably what it will take for them to finally give him a window seat.

He'll leave, do a kickstarter claiming he's finally free of all the restrictions that were on him, and then that will suck even worse.

>>377068539
ACC had a bad story doe, making everyone new to FF7 think Cloud was always angsty.

They should've just made it purely cheesy story+action.

Why does Tifa look half Asian now?

Can japan not stomach white people?

>>377066716

Well it is the most likely scenario then because with everything wrong about the remake (like the episodic stuff, DLC and whatever) it's still FF VII which means it still going to sell like there is no tomorrow.

>>377066516

I'll believe that when i see it since they also said every episode will be a full size game.
Now there are 2 ways that can be done, one is using the expanded universe, the second one is filling the world with useless quest on accounts that Cloud is a mercenary and doing anything for money is how he should roll.

>>377068760
That's a problem with reaction videos, though. The entire genre is stupid. Genuine reactions are exciting, but anybody revising a reaction video is overacting fake bullshit.

>>377064113
They look obnoxiously big to me. What size even is that I don't know the whole numbers thing.

>reveal trailer in 2015
>first part won't likely be playable until 2018

Why the fuck does Square Enix do this? They announce a game when it will be FUCKING YEARS before it's even playable?

>>377068978
FFVII took me 70 hours to beat.

If each part is 20-30 hours, I'd be fine with that. You know there's going to be a fuck ton of cutscenes, too, padding out playtime even more.

>>377069049
Dunno, but they always admit that they announce games too early. Same happened with KH3 and 7R.
They just make a CG scene and "now in development" for square means "we're about to begin development soon"

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>>377065093
>giving kotaku adbux
>not linking to pastebin

>>377069045
Thats dd38. Some instead make her tits look e size but that's rare and mostly saggy.

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>worst fears of how they could possibly mess this up
If it plays like FFXV then they already fucked up.

>>377068840
>Shit doesn't need to be cutting edge to be memorable or beautiful.
That's true, its a shame that Final Fantasy doesn't follow that philosophy and winds up looking like uncanny valley shit.

>>377069376

They're going to turn it into some wannabe Action RPG bullshit because it's Square-Enix and they have to try to reinvent the JRPG battle system wheel with every single-player Final Fantasy.

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>>377069376
>clearly see an action bar & command prompts

>>377069572
You're acting like FF7s combat was even that good.

>>377069620

That wasn't the point, but nice try.

I'm more concerned about the scripted setpieces

>>377069620
At least it knew what it wanted to be and was fine. This new shit looks a damn mess.

>>377069669
No matter which way we look the combat was due for a retouch. And Nomura has been making action games for the past 15 years, its pretty obvious where this was going to go.

>>377069598
It's action but not as much as ff15 as they said.

Atb is also in it.

>>377069598
clearly a placeholder you knob

>>377061703
>worst fears of how they could possibly mess this up
she looks wierd as fuck now?

You know if the graphics looked more like Nomuras cartoon texture and artstyle it would be a million times better than MUH REALIST GRAPHICS

and would be a lot less work too.

>>377069771

Maybe he should try making a good action game.

>>377069936
lol let me guess, call Platinum?

>>377069920
Also Tifa is asian now, so she's ugly. Actually they will all look Asian, so what's the point of Yuffie and Wutai now?

Pretty worried all around, especially around the whole "releasing it in parts" crap that they are doing.

I get that FFVII is a big game, and there is a lot that needs to be redone and reworked due to differences in design between the PSX era and now, but I am hoping that this does not fuck with leveling or how the game is handled.

I am also worried about combat and what they are planning with it.

>>377070004
They have been pushing the asian-aryan hybird since ff10.

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I want to see more of them, they look so cute together.

>>377069951

Swing a miss again, kiddo. You might be retarded.

>>377062185
Redpill me on this genesis thing, I've only played the original game

Too red pilled to be existed about anything I know won't be released in literally years. It's probably getting delayed so many times it'll be released on PS5.

>>377070148
literally put Gackt into the game who reads poetry.

>>377070065
It's not that serious. I just think there's way too much worrying over the combat, it'll be a nice upgrade from the pretty slow and easily cheesed original. It's not even that turn-based is bad, its just originals FF7s wasn't that good, so why are people clinging to it?

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>>377070148
This faggot who is another product of the Jenova project, based on a Jap singer that Nomura is obsessed with

>>377069920
You people do realize that that's a fake screenshot, right?

>>377070148
DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU BRO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT0cT2Exuos

>>377070238
Muh turn based.

Anyways limit breaks are still in. atb is for magic attacks. You can freely kill with the swords and move around.

Is leveling up still in?

>>377070656
>Is leveling up still in?
Very likely, and I hear materia is getting a revamp too. From what Kitase has said they want it to be a nice mix of action and tactical. Very promising.

>>377070238
>Why are people so worried?
>FFXV's action-RPG combat was pure garbage
>7R revealed to have ARPG gameplay

Hmm... why would anyone be concerned? I am seriously beginning to believe that you are legit retarded. Get some help.

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>>377070831
>tfw games made by two different directors with two entirely different skillsets and design philosophies
>acting like their respective games will play the same

I bet you didnt even read the notes on Nomura's plans for Versus 13 compared to the changes Tabata made based on his own preferences, you got shit to say to me buddy.

>>377067093

This

>>377070521
TM Revolution?

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>>377070758
I hope the switch will get the remake,I've been kinda burnt out after the PS3--->PS4 debacle

>>377071149

Aw, did I strike a nerve? You're still a retard, Anon. Maybe someday you can get help for that mental deficiency.

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>>377071181
Gackt

>>377057223
>So what was your reaction when you first heard about this lads?
>"Nostalgia and unreasonably high expectations are going to make this remake fail."

>>377071315
All you had to do was basic research and we could have a real discussion, go grind a bit then come back.

>>377057223
It's going to be a dumpster fire but their current fanbase is gonna hail it as the new messiah.

Square Enix has moved too far away from it's roots to not fuck this up.

>>377060323
Spirits Within was fine.

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>Episodic
Why would anyone want to play an episodic rpg? Oh boy, now I have to wait 3 years for part 2 of the story. Since it is also a story we already know, and the only thing to look forward to is how they are going to butcher it, that just makes it even dumber.

>>377070758
They could just go woth attacks, weapons, magic gets leveled up and not the character.

They're retaining the teams of 3.

>>377070831
SE's put out a lot of ARPGs. The combat in LR and KH0.2 is tolerable, if not pretty good. Otoh, SE comes across as dysfunctional as a company between XV, Makind Divided, and selling off IO Interactive. I don't think they have any releases this year, nor anything announced for next year.

>>377071534
it'll be fine the same guys who worked on .hack are working with square to make sure it's consistent

See this >>377067209

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>there will never be a battle system as good as 10's again

>>377071973
>implying X-2 wasn't the peak of the series

>>377071479

So fine that SE almost went bankrupt because of it.

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>>377057223
pure elation

>>377071912
Those games were shit. The story lasted 8 hours, the rest was padding bullshit.

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>>377070553
I wouldn't put it passed em to let that be her final design

>>377071973
Honestly I think all the games have nice battle systems (at least up until XIII-3), but are too easy. It's not just hitpoints, but a lot of mobs just don't demand strategy -- XIII being the biggest perpetrator.

>>377069154

I too would be fine with it were it not divided on 3 games because for me, full size game translates to full game price, which means 3 60 dollar games plus character DLCs and whatnot.

I don't really want the expanded universe to be on it either and would be ok with less content if they don't charge for full priced games.

Even though i have learned to skeptical when it comes to SE i'll still always give them the benefit of the doubt and wait till the actual release to criticize. For now it is just speculation and i do hope to be wrong here...

>>377072328
there's so much goofy stuff I hope they keep some of the more wacky points like the dolphin & Red going around dressed like a human

>>377070553
I assumed it was obvious.

I do like the idea of her getting a little dirty from fighting in the slums though.

>>377072390
It has nothing to do with her design, because it is fake.

>>377071479
>Spirits Within was fine.
You need some new bait son, this stuff's old and expired

>>377059046
Faggot, shit taste

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This faggot who is another product of the Jenova project, based on a Jap singer that Nomura is obsessed with

Honestly, no matter how bad it is I will probably end up buying it.

>>377057223
I never liked 7 that much so I hoped it'd be a decent improvement, and the battle system sure looks like one.
But then they announced it would be episodic and I lost all interest.

>>377073448
I think you meant to post Exodus. Or was it Leviticus?

>>377068414
>You
Kingsglaive isn't really bad, it's just heartbreaking to know that all used to be content planned for the game (and a good chunk of it already developed.)

>>377073448
wrong guy did you mean him

>>377070521

at the back of my head i was thinking "oh boy, people who never played the original will be playing this"
but the hype was too great that it didn't matter
an entire game's worth of midgar would be pretty cool
They dropped luminous and it's being jointly developed by Nomura's team and CC2, so I'm being cautiously optimistic

In the off chance that VIIR disappoints at least the original game will always be there
unlike Versus XIII which will never see the light of day

>>377073843
yeah no kidding remember this just a few weeks from release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nuNJuJGzZ4

>unique materia system removed for action combat
>no materia combos like phoenix + final attack
>no combos like steal and meteor
>no chaining a shitton of one type of materia together to form mega attacks.
>no KOTR and mimic
>materia will now give +1 to attack combo or +1 defense or a shitty one off damage effect you won't use because team damage.
>you will never see another materia system ever

>>377074858
great post anon :^)

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>>377066634
Versus would have been amazing ;_;

>>377074858
>Only Fire, Ice and Lightning spells
>No status effects
>No buffs
>Not even any nonelemental damage spells

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>>377074858
weak bait m8 next time check your sources

https://thelifestream.net/news/final-fantasy-vii-remake/37786/nomura-confirms-action-based-battle-system-for-remake/

>>377074858
>>unique materia system removed for action combat
I don't know where people get this idea.

I've been saying this for years, but the Materia system is an AMAZING concept for a real time battle system.

>>377057223
>So what was your reaction when you first heard about this lads?
it was inevitable. Though, initially I only thought SE would remake this only if they were financially at risk. The remake would be the "break glass in case of emergency" option for them.

>hopes & dreams of expanding content or new avenues to explore stuff like Red's home town or visiting the Turk's office in Shinra
As long as it follows the original game, I don't mind any added/expanded areas. Honestly, that oughta be the case, if you do a complete remake of some areas, they will probably feel too small or empty (like Skyrim's cities).
I also don't mind too much about the battle system, as long as it's fun to play. It's pretty obvious SE will not do a complete remake of the battle system, but will compromise with a "fusion" of the old, with the new (as in more action-y).

>worst fears of how they could possibly mess this up
- scummy tactics. breaking the whole experience into individual releases is fucking lame as fuck. Also, paid-DLC or microtransactions is something I'm worried about.
Bloating up the whole first chapter/game/episode within Midgar, then getting a "To be continued" screen once you leave Midgar, then having to wait at least 2 YEARS for the next chapter/episode.

- Fucking up the OST. This is a big one for me. I just hope they remaster the ost and add some new tracks for certain scenes/areas. Changing the OST entirely will piss off SOO many people.

- Fan service bs. I really don't care as much, but I would rather not have a bunch of Zach-related stuff shoehorned in. Along with FFXIII Lightning nods/easter eggs shoehorned in.

>>377076504
I just kinda hope they keep CC's fusion and other odd inclusions out.

If they keep the soundtrack it will be fine.

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>>377076598
>Lightning

Oh god I didn't even think of her,she hasn't been in much besides the MMO though right?

It was ruined the moment they announced they were splitting it into multiple parts. Look forward to:
>Padding the story with compilation shit
>Linear hallway design to force story progression
>Character/stat/item resets on every episode
>No being able to revisit old areas
>Classic parts considered too "quirky" to exist today removed. Say goodbye to the little minigames, date with barret, honeybee inn, etc.

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The multiple parts thing worries me.

>If the first part is basically disc 1, then I will ridicule everyone that was worried
>If the first part is just the first continent, I'll be satisfied
>If the first part ends at Midgar/Kalm I'll be disappointed
>If the first part ends partway through Midgar, I'm rage quitting life

Not that it matters, gameplay will be shit that doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

>>377077735
>all the things you liked about VII will disappear!!

So what, when crossdressing Cloud's inevitable removal was debunked days after the announcement because of entireliy baseless bitching by people like you, you just changed the issue to "Honey Bee Inn" instead of crossdressing?

Fuck you. Yes things will be different, but these people know what people renember fondly about FFVII.

They already said they're fucking it up with taking shit out and releasing it as 3 or more games.

>>377078228
no they simply said some elements would have to be changed because the wouldn't fit with the scene anymore because of the NON-3D blocky look

>>377058973
i hope you are wrong

>>377078964
They've already said they are going to have to remove or change scenes because they would be considered inappropriate now.

>>377079227
The mini-games are getting a complete overhaul turning into their own fully feature game with-in a game I'm actually looking forward to the moggle & RTS again

I hope this is real
>>377061703

>>377079724
>I hope this is real
retard

>>377078228
They didn't say they were removing anything. In fact they made it a point to say nothing was changing except fixing one or two grammatical errors.

They even stressed ladyboi cloud would remain. They also mentioned in passing that they weren't altering honey bee inn at all

basically you made shit up and some of it had already been contradicted many placed online

>>377078137
>but these people know what people renember fondly about FFVII.
The compilation proves that to be false.

I look forward to your excuses when Episode 2 sells significantly less than Episode 1.

>>377080216
I have no idea how you can still believe in Square-Enix after the last couple of years, or hell even FFXV. So much promised stuff was changed or cut. Are you just a blind fanboy or are you really this naive?

>>377080451
he's not wrong see the link for yourself m8

http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/936579-final-fantasy-vii-remake-devs-say-might-change-honey-bee-inn-people-pissed

You guys must be crazy to expect anything good AND final fantasy related out of Squeenix. By this point it's sort of a miracle that Dragon Quest is still good.

>>377081217
that's because it's handled with a completely different mindset & the west seems to have dropped off the radar in terms of releases

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>>377057223
>worst fear
nerfing tifas tits

>second worst fear
60 dollars per episode
then
multiple episodes

>third worst fear
ps4 only

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>they're going to make the battle system the weird open-world shit
>they're going to remove the scene where Cloud dresses like a trap and gets fucked by a group of strangers

As much as I think it'll be garbage, I honestly wouldn't mind seeing VI in this style

I feel like Vi's story structure is much more friendly towards episodic content, and I'd kill to see VI's world and aesthetic in a 3D environment with a modern Square title budget

>>377081217

XIV is genuinely a quality game. The presentation, soundtrack, and over the top boss fights are unlike anything else I've seen in the genre

Also World of Final Fantasy was a cute little diversion

>>377057223
>So what was your reaction when you first heard about this lads?

my reaction was basically
>remember crisis core? remember Advent Children? Imagine that but ten times worse.
>>377069049
>until 2018
the game will not be released in this decade m8.

>>377081713
well if it does go multi-plat the prices may very well varies by console,I hope it comes to PC for the mod support

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>>377082698
but then which version will release first the Ps4 or the nintendo switch

>>377076598
>- Fan service bs. I really don't care as much, but I would rather not have a bunch of Zach-related stuff shoehorned in.

This is kind of all I care about. I'm not worried about Genesis showing up because Nomura doesn't care much about him and he's asleep during this time period, but one of the things I liked about Zack in the original FFVII was how little we actually knew about him at the time. I think Crisis Core kind of ruined the mystery about the character by portraying him exactly like anyone imagined him to be, only more idealized (the womanizing bit was taken out to make him and Aeris seem like soulmates, for example.)

>>377083117
didn't him & vincent know each other?

>>377057223
>What was your reaction?
So-So, like they can not ruin the original anyways and I always welcome new stuff.

>>377082106
square lost interest in remaking older games. There were no remakes for 3ds for V and VI. And 3ds is on its last legs so it might take a while before they remake the v and vi.

Shut up and post Tifa.

>>377083291
>didn't him & vincent know each other?
who?

>>377083291
Who?

>>377083291
if you're talking about zack, in crisis core zack only meets vincent sleeping in the grave but doesn't wake him up. IT was yet another "member this" moment in crisis core.

>>377083602
>IT was yet another "member this" moment in crisis core.
Yeah, there were way too many of those...

>>377073448
how'd he die in CC compared to the original?

>>377057223
>So what was your reaction when you first heard about this lads?
I went from looking forward to it to being dissapointed by them changing the combat to modern FF15 like combat to losing any interest after hearing they are splitting it into several parts

>>377057223
I far that the three part structure is going to be awful.

>>377070521
he was meant to have his own game but after dirge of cerberus flopped they cancelled it. I always thought he was meant to be part of remnants of sephiroth, but I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. Fucking nomura the hack.

>>377057223
As someone who loves hype and crazy E3s, I thought it was awesome. Sony blew everyone else away in 2015 (even if most of the games they showed could be gotten on other consoles/PC).

I have no hopes/dreams, desu, as I've never actually played through FFVII. Had an N64 as a kid and didn't get FFVII until last year. I played through the first three or four hours and I thought it was solid. It was obviously aged, but there was something about those backgrounds that I really dug.

Need to get back into that damn game.

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>>377066464
>"All evidence points to the game being good"
>Nomura in charge

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>tifa's breasts will get heavily reduced
>cross dressing and gay scene wont be in
>slap fight wont be in
>have to re-experience the fucking flashback when you get out of midgar
>cid wont cuss or be an ass
>barret will be less angry black man and be more frustrated black man
>no more yuffie bondage
>action rpg bullshit
>golden saucer wont be nearly as fun
>probably axe barrets arm loss scene
>materia system will probably be shit too


But honestly, the loss of Tifa's Breasts will hurt most of all. I know Square-Enix knows about Tifa's popularity. She still stars in Doujins even to this day and im pretty fucking sure she has the highest doujin count too

I was hoping they would do turn based because I was sure any real time shit they did would suck. Then I played XV and it was terrible and I'm pretty sure the VII remake is just XV with a skin so fuck me.

>>377068380
What's so bad about that? Is the only bad thing that you have to pay for multiple games?

If your worst fear about a dream remake is that it'll cost more than you want it to, then I'd say your worst fears are hardly anything.

>>377084849
>ill pay 60 dollars per episode
why?

>>377084985
If each episode is a full, 40+ hour RPG, what's wrong with that?

That being said, I'll probably wait for the PC release and buy it for like $30 per episode off GMG or wherever.

>>377084849
honestly I'd be more afraid of it being "non exclusive" hurts it's performance due to optimization on any one platform

we still don't know which consoles are getting the remake besides the PS4 will the Bone or Switch get it as well,what about PC?

>>377068174
hey at least the know how to do intros right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGR4uKKFKJQ

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>>377057223
Why is a Sephiroth a giant? Was he always that big and I never noticed.

>>377085692
angeal is taller than sephiroth, soldier 1st classes are all big guys that's their thing except cloud because he didn't spend that much time with the mako-fusion process thing.

>>377086081
He spent 4 years in a mako tank

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>>377083980
more dramatically...

which is to it's benefit or detriment, depending on who you talk to.

Personally, I prefer the original. There's just something particularly disquieting about the person you look up to getting mag dumped in the chest for trying to protect you. Certainly explains why Cloud's brain went "NOPE! Not real! That person didn't exist! Ain't dealing with that shit; it was me all along, only way it makes sense!"

>>377078029
Disc 1 is like 60% of the game's story, it's not going to be that.

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>>377086081
Cloud went through the process for 4 whole years.

SOLDIER aren't naturally tall because of the process involved; they're tall because tall people with athletic qualities (I.E. Not a fatass or bodybuilder) tend to make the more ideal infantry, and since SOLDIER tends to take from the best of the best of infantrymen...

Cloud's 5'8. By Advent Children, he's basically a one manlet army.

>>377070521
>he actually believes this
hahaha. It was the producer who wanted more gackt

>>377086524
yeah but they fix the thing from the original, when the soliders just fucking leave cloud alone. Just imagine the fact that if they killed him back then, nothing would have happened. They don't even address that issue in the remake.
>>377086730
>>377086146
the point is cloud is the shortest, then it's zack, genesis, sephiroth and angeal as the tallest .

>>377086887
eh they might go that route going by the shinra soldier recognizing him before he jumped on the train

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>>377086885
Yeah, Nomura's a HUGE Cloudfag with a side of Aeris and a scene with Tifa he really likes. He's never really talked about Genesis at all; that was all Kitase and Imaizumi. The only thing Nomura ever contributed to Genesis's character was his overall design and sword, which are the only good things about him.

Then again, Kitase is producer...

It'll suck ass.
And beyond that, there's no way they're going to avoid generating a shitstorm with the whole cross dressing thing. There's literally no way for them to handle it that won't result in a large amount of people throwing a tantrum, one way or another.

They should've just let it be.

>>377063961

FFVII has one of the most memorable and recognizable soundtracks in Final Fantasy.
There is not a single track on the entire OST that isn't instantly recognizable.
You can pinpoint where almost all of them were used with just the first few seconds, and even if you've never played the games you'd be able to recognize several tracks as being from FF7 just from how often they've appeared over the years.


So they better not fuck it up.

>>377087371
You're underestimating Japan (and overestimating the far-left, honestly.)

They're more worried about child protection laws regarding prostitution than anything to do with western sensibilities. The only time the west's political agenda's matter to them is if it serves as an excuse to not bother exporting a barely profitable game.

i really hope this game doesn't spark my mad scientist fetish again

>>377087242
>Nomura's a HUGE Cloudfag
If this is true, why has he fucked up Cloud's character so badly?

>>377060750
/v/ would goes mad time show average boob no clever tifa thanks SJW

>>377088082
He didn't, AC just did a poor job of explaining it because the supplementary novellas should have either been part of the movie or a series of shorts or at least fucking officially translated.

ACC does a slightly better job, but not nearly enough.

The short version is Cloud was depressed because he let Aerith die and also he and his adopted son has space AIDS. The movie is him getting over that. That's why he snaps out of it when fighting Bahamut and Sephiroth (and Aerith cures the aids)


KH Cloud is a completely different character, and yes he fucked Cloud up in the eyes of the fans but that isn't the same Cloud.

>>377088082
Fanboys are rarely the best choices to write their favorite characters.

Also Cloud's just a rather shit character in general

Good action combat > Good turn-based > Bad action combat

Knowing t hat KH II's battle planner is working on the game gives me hope, but if it'll be the same weird hybrid system like in XV, no thanks.

>>377067262
Poor guy maybe remake comes to ps5

>>377088572

>Knowing t hat KH II's battle planner is working on the game gives me hope
But you put Bad Action Combat at the bottom of your tier list.

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>>377088082
The funny thing is He actually hasn't,
when you think about it

He did one arc in the movie where he is DYING and quite bummed about it and his other recent failures (we can blame elmyra for that one,) and about halfway through the movie, Cloud's more of a hardass than he's ever been.

I think the real issue is the audience that either didn't play the game or the retards that forget that Cloud shapes the fuck up halfway through the flick.

>>377088513
>KH Cloud is a completely different character, and yes he fucked Cloud up in the eyes of the fans but that isn't the same Cloud.
Also this. For some reason, there's an innate inability to differentiate KH Cloud with FFVII Cloud, both within the Fujoshi Crowd and the diehard FFVII fans that for some reason think he's mopey (he's really not; he's just a grumpier, more standoffish version of Disc 1 Cloud with a poorly explained backstory and DARKNESS ptsd.)

IT'S JUST A BLOODBORNE RIPOFF

>>377058973
a few years back i would've told myself : "no way this retard is right, square will ace this". Today i know they'll fuck up beyond our expectations

>>377088572
>hybrid system like in XV,
XV isn't hybrid at ALL, what the fuck are you talking about? It's basically DMC with a side of Metal gear rising and "hold square to dodge."

FFVII remake actually looks like it's got some strategy and atb elements to it's real time system.

>>377060323
This, along with lord of the rings fellowship of the ring are the only two movies I saw multiple times at the cinema, I was transfixed, and thought I was watching the future of movies when I saw spirits within

>>377088513
>The short version is Cloud was depressed because he let Aerith die and also he and his adopted son has space AIDS.
I never bought that excuse. Depression doesn't generally make you completely unrecognisable in personality from your usual self. Even if that were realistic, it's a terrible narrative choice because it alienates his fans from the game by essentially making him a different character.

>>377088835
>and about halfway through the movie, Cloud's more of a hardass than he's ever been
Cloud was never a hardass though, so even if that's true it's not a point in Nomura's favour.

Cloud is a chatty dork who desperately wants to be cool but is terrible at it. He's very expressive with his emotions, even when he's deeply fucked up and traumatised. None of the compilation or other material featuring him has managed to capture that, except arguably Crisis Core. His English voice actor makes it even worse because he speaks all Cloud's lines in this stoic monotone.

>>377088929
but there nothing alike

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>>377089003
>XV isn't hybrid at ALL
>Treats healing system like it's a turn based game
>Treats offence/defence juggling like it's turn based
>Attacks that should have invincibility frames don't have them
>Enemies that should stagger don't stagger
>Bosses are just spectacle trash
>Has absolutely zero sense of enemies design that absolutely doesn't work with the combat system, not allowing you to utilize half the tools you have freely and efficiently

I had big hopes for XV's combat and experimented alot with it, but it's just a poor game, and the fact that you even slightly compare it to DMC just shows how little you understand about good combat design.

>>377089419
lol

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>mfw they announced it would be """episodic"""

It will be shit. Screencap this post.

>>377089626
what a unique prediction

>>377089419
>depression doesn't generally make your completely unrecognizable in personality from your usual self

It may not usually but it certainly can. And depression from realizing you and your son are going to die (Geostigma is fatal) even more so.

>it's a terrible narrative choice

Agreed. AC is a bad movie, and I'd never call it good.

But one of the biggest complaints is that it changed Cloud completely, and that doesn't hold up. We know he was moody and angry as a kid, we he had an identity crisis as a young adult. I buy that he isn't the best at dealing with shit to begin with, but more importantly the movie is to some degree about getting over the issues weighing on him. The strong personality change from beginning to end should highlight that.

>>377057223
At first happy, then i realized this is SE, then nomura said "he was surprised with how much he was allowed to change, entire scenarios changed", then SE announced "lol triology lololo" with the addition of "every part will be the lengh of a full game (well if that said game isnt FF7)"of course this ignores that they will by definition wreck the entire pacing of the story and need to add fluff to pad out the game lenght for every entry, then recently it came to light that KH3 has very very similar issues as FF15 before tabata which means the weak link and reason why it takes ages to produce average results is undeniably nomura.. teammembers even stated his "perfectionism" (quta signs even in the invertiew btw) is wrecking everything and dragging out dev. Its apparently so bad they will release KH3 in 2018 no matter if it is a finished game or not. And this in a nutshell is why i lost all hope for FF7R Nomura and SE are behind it fuck em all back and abort them, they are all time vampires.

>>377090028
>Its apparently so bad they will release KH3 in 2018 no matter if it is a finished game or not
Don't believe everything you read on the internet

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>>377089419
>Cloud was never a hardass though
No, he -became- a hardass through the game, coming directly from the chatty dork you described.

If he wasn't a hardass, he wouldn't be hacking lovecraftian horrors to death in a fashion that would make Angeal look upon Zack with disappointment as he somehow shoots meteors out of his sword.

Cloud's hasn't been a chatty dork since he was sixteen. He's heavily traumatized to the point where his brain literally convinced him he was his own fictional ideal self in lieu of any semblance of coherent sanity for awhile, and in the modern day he does what he can to make the best of his situation, and finds solace in his family and their support of him.

Cloud's a complete fucking mess during and after FFVII. He shapes the fuck up when he has to, but he's never functioned well in any every day environment even before he was Hojo's guinea pig, especially one where he's been entirely robbed of his future.

>>377090134
This one makes sense and you will be suprsised how KH3 will feel unfinished like FF15 or get several patches until its passable. You giving them the benefit of a doubt while they haven't released a complete game in the last 4 years is lol

>>377090362
The guy who is the source of all the rumors also said the xv leaks that were posted here last may were fake they were true btw. He also makes obvious predictions of upcoming announcements to make himself seem credible
Don't believe everything you read on the internet

>>377090362
>>377090478
The leaker went full damage control right after as well saying that his tweets were mistranslated and that KH3 development was fine and not in development hell like Versus/XV

From the start it felt like he was just sprinkling controversy into safe predictions to seem like he's actually leaking something big

>>377090159
this guy get's it

>>377090159
Dude I don't think you understand what a hardass is. I'll help you out:

noun, Slang: Vulgar.
1. a person who follows rules and regulations meticulously and enforces them without exceptions.

>Cloud's hasn't been a chatty dork since he was sixteen.
This is funny because he actually wasn't a chatty dork when he was 16. He was all angsty and mopey because he was a failure who couldn't get in to SOLDIER. So while CC's interpretation of him was refreshing in that Cloud was allowed to be cheerful and silly, it wasn't really accurate to what little we saw of him in that time period in VII.

Anyway, you seem to be arguing that Cloud being a chatty dork and Cloud being a complete fucking mess are somehow mutually exclusive, which is untrue because he's clearly both for the vast majority of VII. He's totally fucked up mentally and deals with his problems terribly, but throughout all of that time he was still a chatty dork. There were two times he wasn't: Right at the very start when he was trying to play the role of a uncaring mercenary and when he was fucking poisoned so badly he was incapable of speaking or moving on his own.

>>377090159
That's a big reason I'm so mad that the AC novellas never got translated. Case of Tifa takes some time to point out exactly that.

Cloud doesn't know how to haggle, he doesn't know the names of vegetables, and he doesn't know what to do with himself. He likes riding his bike, so he sets up a delivery service and Tifa is happy he found something to do.

AC he just does motorcycle spinning and flies around fighting sephiroth, who fuckin cares?

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>>377089472
>>Treats healing system like it's a turn based game
>>Treats offence/defence juggling like it's turn based

It does neither of these things, though. It treats healing like a "Pause game, heal character, continue like you didn't get crushed by the hoof of a bull the size of a yacht" (which is actually a lot like Devil May Cry without the orbs)

Offence/defence is all done at the push of two separate buttons and has no semblance of similarity with turn-based whatsoever, however, like Devil May Cry, your moveset is determined by what weapon you have equipped, the lock-on function, and button input (the only difference being FFXV being more direction-based than timing, though timing a button press between holding the offence button can force finishers, and canceling is still very useful, albeit done differently.)

>Attacks that should have invincibility frames don't have them
Actually, the attacks that have invincibility frames are pretty solid, mostly counters and some warp strikes. Anything beyond that is bad timing on YOUR part, not bad game design.

>Enemies that should stagger don't stagger
I'll give you that one, I'm beyond tired of Magitek assassins.

>Bosses are just spectacle trash
You're just shitposting at this point.

>Has absolutely zero sense of enemies design that absolutely doesn't work with the combat system, not allowing you to utilize half the tools you have freely and efficiently
You're half right on this point. I'm not a big fan of "enemy is weak to -this- weapon type, but resistant to -that- one. All it does is limit you. I'm also tired of Iron/Red giants and wish there was more Daemon variety at night.

In any case, I didn't say it was a DMC clone. I said it was a weird combination of DMC elements (minus the masterful camera and near instantaneous input/moveset disparity) and with other hack and slash games with some surprisingly minor RPG elements thrown in and a SHIT magic system, and I agree, it could have been far better.

First impression: This is the game that will get perfect scores everywhere.

Still standing by that statement.

>>377091379
>Anything beyond that is bad timing on YOUR part, not bad game design.

Not that anon, but that's BS
Eevs intentionally made most enemies to not telegraph their attacks at all for the sake of realism.
And the items spam is nothing like in DMC, where you're penalized for using them, and here you're encouraged to spam them because the game is designed in a way to put you and/or your party in danger state in 1-2 hits.

Not to mention the lack of juggling, unlockable moves and consistency in attack moves that come out