>15 million units How did this fail as badly as the Wii U?

>>377056186
No games. I could have gotten a new Vita including 8 indie games for 90€ more than 3 years ago. I decided to get a 3DS XL instead simply because there were no games on the Vita that interested me.

>>377056186
Having home ports on the go was only cool when the switch started doing it.

>>377056186
No, the wii U sold 13 million units. It outsold a major Nintendo home console.

>>377056186
It failed worse, those numbers are double embarrassing for a handheld rather than a home console, and all it's killer apps went to the PS4

proprietary memory

>>377056186
Estimates are around 18-20 millions though.

No monster hunter

>as badly
Still has games being made desu

I kind of like my vita to play PS1 games on the go.
I touch my Vita more than my PS4, although not nearly as much as my PS3.

>>377056186
I cant think of a single game thats exclusive to the system

The PSP had so many great games

>>377056936
>I cant think of a single game thats exclusive to the system
That's because you don't know shit about it, Anon.

>>377056654

Outsold Nintendos worst ever console.. by a whopping 2 million. It failed as badly as the Wii U.

>>377057073
2 million is more than most Wii U games sold :)

Needing an external memory that was stupidly priced and easy to misplace.

>>377056186
>SD adapter soon
Cant wait

>>377057256

I don't know how true that is, but I doubt the Vita did any better. I bet the average person couldn't name a single Vita game.

>>377056654
>a handheld outsells a console barely
this isnt an acheivement

>>377057256
>:)

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>>377057073
>It failed as badly as the Wii U.
>Sold more
>Has more games
>Has more support than both Wii U and 3DS put together
>Sony didn't even try
How does it feel to cope with the fact that Nintendo managed to fail harder than Sony's least successful console despite putting much more effort in saving their shitty deadweight?

>>377056186
lack of games and stubborn memory card policy helped a lot

Just further proof that weebshit doesnt sell.

>>377056936
Hey, this thing has heaps of exclusives! There's Gravity Ru- um, Danganr- oh. Well it had Tearaw- oh, hold on. Senran K- shit, GODEAT- and y'know etc, etc.

I regret buying a Vita so much.

>>377057580
The Wii U may be a joke, but that doesn't mean the Vita isn't. I've never met a single person that owns one, including the sony fanboys and weebs I know. It's just pathetic. Shame too, since it has a few decent games.

>>377056186
Price, dumb name and no marketing. Just like the WiiU. People bitched about Switch peripherals costing $60 but that's an average memory card price for this shit. Without USB loading it's worthless.

>>377056186
Literelly no proper advertisements, excessively expansive proprietary memory cards and no system sellers

>>377057580

I'm not a fanboy first off, so you can fuck right off with that.

You seem to be the one trying to desperately cope with how badly the Vita did. It didn't have games. At least not as much as a console should. I can't name one single Vita game outside Uncharted and I guarantee the average game consumer can't either.

>>377057580
>b-but muh wiiU
that doesn't change the fact vita is a failure

The only reason I would ever buy a Vita would be if there was a new Monster Hunter on it, and I think we all know the chances of that

Sony was retarded and locked memory cards behind exorbitant prices instead of Micro SDs for fear of hacking like the PSP. That led to people not wanting to buy the Vita until a price drop which never came, which lead to Vita not having a strong games lineup past the first two years, which led to everybody abandoning it.

People were retarded because they bought fucking MonHun in droves on the shittiest possible system for it, the 3DS, instead of the Vita, the much more powerful system with two analog sticks that was also portable.

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>fail
>still has more games coming than nintendo switch or xbone combined
better question
why did this fail?

>>377056186

thats a funny sales figure, because sony stooped releasing sales figure in 2011
companies only dd this when a product (such as the ps3) is a total flop

>>377056186

Have one, got it for 25 but only persona 4 and DAN, when is this shit getting hacked since I really want to play all my fave PS1 and GBA (and below) favorite games on it.

Been collecting dust for a while, I didn't even finish P4 (did this before on PS2, though).

>>377056186
are they cheap yet
are there places to find their memory for cheap used

>>377057580
>Has more support than both Wii U and 3DS put together
I wouldn't call shovelware support.

last i checked games are still coming out on it

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I love my two Vita's

>>377058213
It's been hacked for months, my man.

>>377056186
>90% "only-japan-cares" games
>Expensive memory
>Expensive videogame development
>Has the 3DS as rival
>Almost no support for Sony
>Most of its games can be played on other consoles

I mean, powerful system, great graphics, but just that wasn't enough.

>>377056186
Proprietary cable, proprietary memory card, severe lack of 1st party support. The Vita is pretty much what happens when you let corporate suits make hardware decisions. So much failed potential.

I wish to the high heavens that many 3DS games were available on the Vita, because it is straight up the better handheld.

>>377058323

Last I checked it still wasn't selling.

>>377056629
>Vita comes out
>Nintendo fanboys constantly shittalk it saying console games on portables is retarded.
>Switch comes out
>Nintendo fanboys talk about how console games on portables is the best thing ever

I hate it.

>>377057580
>Has more support than both Wii U and 3DS put together
Ask me how I know you're a Vitafag.

Reminder that both Sonyfags and Nintyfags hate you

>>377058554
neither has wii u

>>377056186
Vita still gets games.
Wii U is basically discontinued after only like 4 years

The memory cards. I would have bought one otherwise.

>>377057851

Not that anon, but you're abso-fucking-lutely a fanboy since you apparently find some sort of personal validation in owning or not owning the "correct" consoles

>>377058694
>games for vita come out
>but it doesnt sell
>LEL PII U FAILED!

what made Sonybros develop this massive victim-complex?

>>377058625
One, everyone except neogaf shat on the Vita because it was just plain bad. The games on it ran worse than their console counterparts and it lost first and major third part support very early on.
Not to mention that proprietary memory.
Two, the Switch is a home console first and can actually run said games better than the Wii U.

>>377058880
the op is comparing the vita to the wii u

>>377058880
Probably last gen when Sony made a mockery of themselves with the PS3. When things started to turn up they started picking fights they couldn't win.

>>377058694

This was never about which did better, because they both equally bombed. The question is, how did Vita, which wasn't at all as stupid as Wii U, managed to sell as badly.

>b-but it sold better

Nah, not really. 13 million vs 15 million is virtually the same.

>>377058726
I'm glad I picked up both. Between the flash sales for the Vita getting me to try out all sorts of shit I wouldn't have normally tried, and the handful of games that I got for my dirt cheap Wii U (200 bucks for it plus 2 games, and my Wii-motes and Classic Pros meant I didn't have to sink anything on accessories), I got everything I wanted on it for less than 350 bucks.

The Vita is way better than the Wii U, and between the Wii U, the Vita and the 3DS, I see no reason to ever purchase the Switch so long as they are forcing me to buy the screen. Maybe if they offer a version that only hooks up to the TV, ditching the portability factor and dropping 100 bucks (since it would be cheaper without having to worry about portability), I would be interested. Even then, they would need to drop the price of their Joycons to 50, and their pro controller to 40. Those controller prices aren't negotiable.

>>377059097
>they both equally bombed
>sales dont matter

games are still coming out on the vita

>>377058834

But dude, I owned a Wii U and admitted in the OP that it bombed . I bought one because Zelda was announced. I don't give a fuck about console wars. I just can't figure out why the Vita tanked as badly as Wii U.

>>377059097
>which wasn't at all as stupid as Wii U,
Let's be honest here. The vita was essentially a Wii U gamepad with features that were both just as underutilized and retarded.
Don't forget about the proprietary memory cards, the reduced button and stick size and the general poor ergonomics.

Same problem with the PSP. All it is a portable playstation. People don't want a portable playstation. No what people want is something unique. They want some type of games that you can't play on another console. I think the Vita is an alright machine but you're not paying it for the games. No you're paying for it because you love Sony so much you already bought PS Plus.

>>377058901
One, people actually shat on it just for the concept of portable console games, which is what I was talking about.

Two, a lot of the portable console games it got, most of them, ran well and some of them, like metal gear, ran better than their original versions.

You seem to have taken that post a bit too personally. I wonder why...

>>377058989

Only because it makes sense why the Wii U failed, but Vita failing really defies logic.

>>377059193
>games are still coming out on the vita
And the Wii U eshop still updates with shitty games too.
Doesn't mean that either have anything of worth coming out any more.

>>377058901
>Two, the Switch is a home console first and can actually run said games better than the Wii U.
Sony releases a handheld that is more powerful than last gen hardware in 2011.

This is somehow bad.

Nintendo releases a handheld that is more powerful than a last gen system in 2017.

This is somehow not bad.

>>377059265
Proprietary memory card, stupid anti-piracy measure of controlling whatever you hooked it up to through the Vita. God awful transfer speeds, no real 1st party support. No real advertising.

If they let you transfer files the same way that you did through the PSP, and put in a micro SD card, and bothered to produce and advertise games created for the Vita, it would have done much better. It's clearly the superior piece of hardware when compared to even the N3DS, but there was no push from the people who created it.

When the NGAGE had more ads for it than the Vita did, you KNOW its going to bomb.

>>377059193

Literally no one can tell you what games are coming to the Vita. No one owns a Vita. It was a failure. Forget the Wii U, it has nothing to do with the Vitas failures, it was merely a comparison of equal commercial failure.

>>377059285
Vitas OLED screen was amazing and you cant really insult the sticks when it was the only portable system that had dual sticks at all.

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>>377057736
>>377057851
>>377057870
>>377058301
>>377058690
Salt it is.

>>377059285
I perfer the ergonomics of the Vita to my 3DS.

>>377056186
OVERPRICED
PROPIETARY
MEMORY
CARDS

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>>377056186
If the Vita is so good why is there no emulator?

>>377059490
>When the NGAGE had more ads for it than the Vita did, you KNOW its going to bomb.
SCEA blatantly did not like the vita and did not want to push it.

It's very evident if you were an e3 attendee the year the vita launched and the year after.

HUGE floor space for the vita, but SCEA would not allow it any time in the big press event. When asked about it, higher ups at SCEA would hand waive it off.

They should have been fired. I feel like the japanese management of sony has a disconnect with their american counterparts that they must be unaware of.

>>377059485
>Sony releases a handheld that is more powerful than last gen hardware in 2011.
They never did that though

>>377059715
Here's a quick question. What was last gen hardware to someone in 2011?

>>377059485
>Sony releases a handheld that is more powerful than last gen hardware in 2011.
Are you retarded?
The Vita was weaker than the PS3, had no internal storage for anything but the OS and updates, charged extortionate prices for proprietary memory cards, ran games worse than advertised and had nothing of worth to play after the initial year.

That is what's bad about it

And the Switch is still a home console.

>>377059808
You're a retard if you think the Vita was more powerful than the PS3

>>377059890
>PS3 was a last gen system in 2011

You are an idiot.

It's pretty fucking great if you are a weeb. So much niche stuff.

>>377059529
>and you cant really insult the sticks
Sure you can especially when very few games needed dual sticks and they were too small for anyone of average size.

>>377059882
In 2011 the ps3 was current gen hardware. The ps2 was previous gen hardware.

For the time, in 2011, sony released a handheld that was, at the time, in 2011, significantly more powerful than the previous generation console they released was.

>>377059981
The Vita is an 8th gen console you turd muncher

>>377056186
What's the point of a handheld with no monhun?

>still no vita ports of ps2 gamestops

FUCK

>>377059981
Not him, but the Vita isn't even as powerful as PS2. Its ports of MGS2 and 3 don't run as well as the originals playing on the MSX Metal Gears on the go are the only valid reason to get the Vita version of the HD Collection.

>>377060118
see
>>377060107
That was blatantly a comparison to home console power, as per the metric set by the person they replied to.

>>377058625
>Vita comes out
>Wow look at all the shitty ports with 20 fps of the games! And limited control scheme too, WOW!
>Oh look, a new game! Too bad if I want to buy it I have to purchase the $100 memory SD! Thanks sony for making me save money!
>Man these hand cramps sure suck! But they're worth it to play my awful ports.

>Switch comes out
>Literally console games with less graphics. On the go.
>Uses regular sd and USB-c to charge
>Can play on tabletop as well with one joycon in each hand or a regular controller

Gee I wonder why

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>best selling Vita game
>Minecraft

>>377060195
>Its ports of MGS2 and 3 don't run as well as the originals
The vita ports of mgs 2 and 3 run at a higher resolution, with visual improvements, and a variable framerate that is more stable and typically higher than the ps2 version, especially in 3.

>>377058035
Glorified open-world deathmatch where interesting shit only happens every hour or so with zombies thrown in the mix when the game was sold as a "zombie survival".

Price, vita plus memory card cost more than an xbox 360. People that say vita had no games are retarded. Killzone, unchartered, gravity rush, Soul Sacrifice.

Vita was too expensive and half of it's gimmicks were never used. Sony should have made a handheld without trying to make it a phone.

The Vita was a side project that failed to take off and when the PS4 started gaining momentum, Sony couldn't wait to abandon it.

>>377060107
>In 2011 the ps3 was current gen hardware.
>ps3 was 7th gen
>vita was 8th
Its astounding how dumb you vitards can be. I bet you thing the PSP was 6th gen too huh.
Also is there any reason why you're attempting to compare the switch and Wii u, two home consoles in the same gen to the ps2 and vita, a home console and handheld two gens apart?

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>>377059608
Okay, but the Vita is still a flop

>>377056629
there's a crucial difference

Vita's console ports were awful, they ran at like sub20fps settings, and 7th era games already ran like shit at a certain point, so the Vita for console ports was the subpar of the subpar. The Switch has more power than a 7th gen console, even though it's unrealistic to expect PS4-tier hardware prowess on a portable device, but I'd say it can handle PS4 ports better than the Vita handled PS3 ports.

>>377060228
>Saying that when Animal Crossing is the best selling 3DS "game"

The 2ds with a 64 gig sd card cost as much as a vita's 64 gig memory card. Let that sink in.

>>377060497
>The Vita was a side project
You don't put that much into a side project anon.

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>>377057580
>>Has more support than both Wii U and 3DS put together

>>377060681
The best selling 3DS game is pokemon XY followed by Sun and Moon anon.

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>>377060476
>People that say vita had no games are retarded
Sure, it had games. But it didn't have any system sellers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvBsPD3KJO4

>>377060631
It's like you are purposely trying to not understand the posts, even when people are holding your hand and walking you through it.

The posts claim was this.

In 2011, sony released a handheld (vita) that was more powerful at the time than the previous generation of home console (ps2) was.

If you still can't understand this, you are hopeless.

>>377060728
Wiiu and 3ds had abysmal support so it's not saying much. Vita has the third largest library of any console.

It's a port machine and a pretty good one at that too.

I don't understand this obsession with sales. If the console is good for your needs, who cares?

>>377060668
There were like 2-3 ports that ran that bad, most of them ran fine, and some of them ran really really well.

It did literally what the switch is doing for seventh gen stuff for sixth gen stuff, which makes sense since it came out six years ago.

>>377056186
I loved my Vita, got it for like $100 from a buddy, and it was a portable weeb machine. P4G and Lumines alone made it worth it.

>>377060801
Neither does the ps4. Never stopped the ps4 from selling

>>377060681
But why are you lying?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_3DS_video_games

>>377059808
Depends on whether they realize consoles have old hardware already on release.

i dont know but compared to the 3ds 66 million its pathetic and i hope you feel bad for liking it faggot >:(

>>377060847
>3DS
>abysmal
Abysmal is the Wii U being supported pretty much solely by Nintendo and the Vita having nothing but VNs and cheap shovelware from the same 6 developers for the last 3 years.
The 3DS had a lot of major third party support

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>>377060847
>Vita has the third largest library of any console.

>>377056186
>A 64gb memory card now costs more than the actual system here in the UK
>The OS is sluggish and annoying
>Too expensive to develop for
>Not enough PS1 games for sale on the ps store

>>377060202
That doesn't change the fact that the Vita is an 8th gen console just like the PS4

>>377056186
The Vita was and is absolutely amazing and the 3DS XL, while plenty impressive, can't compete with the consistent quality of the Vita's library.

>>377060847
>Vita has the third largest library of any console

A lot of shitty games. Minecraft sold 2.2 million copies. Every single other title sold less than 2 million. It's terrible library is why it failed.

>>377061115
shut up sony fag i am literally right now looking to trade my PS4 slim and games for a wii u cause despite buying plenty of exclusives i NEVER play it

>>377061110
The vita's generation has literally NOTHING to do with that comparison. They even gave you DATE STAMPS for reference.

>>377061068
The 3ds's library is abysmal when compared to either the ds or the psp. I have a hacked 2ds with only 11 games.

Too big
Too expensive console
Too expensve memory cards
No GTA SA liberty City Stories
Shitty multiplayer
Shitty PS3 games on "the go"

>>377060668
>Own revelations 2 on my PC but buy it anyway because it's on sale for £8
>Constantly sub 30 fps

Wew lad. It was definitely worth the money and time downloading from shit tier playstation servers.

>>377061172
>Sales determine quality

Most people realize this isn't true some time around their mid teens at the absolute latest.

the only people that don't are the folks that tie their personal identity and self worth to the brands they support.

>>377060814
Right, we can't understand a stipulation you added when you realised your mistake.
Also it doesn't change the fact that the Vita is a generation higher than the PS3 making it belong with the PS4.

It shouldn't take too much brain power to figure out why you can't weasel out of this one.

>>377061220
>Sony releases a handheld that is more powerful than last gen hardware in 2011
Last gen hardware for the Vita was the PS3

>7th gen console vs 8th gen console

>>377056186
Not a lot of people care about it outside of Japan.

>>377061263
>I have a hacked 2ds with only 11 games
That tells us more about your taste than the quality of the library

>>377060898
It's Nintenbros' usual argument since they got sodomized hard for two consecutive generations.
When they're selling less it's "Quality over Quality" when they're selling more it's MUH SALES NUMBERS, nothing to see here.
They're also salty that 3rd parties still support Sony's platforms more so they resort to panty quest shitposting to cope with the fact that 3rd parties detest Nintendo.

>>377061172
You must love Fifa, Madden, and Call of Duty. Please leave with your shit taste and sales = quality meme.

>>377061328
>we can't understand a stipulation you added when you realised your mistake.
>added

It was there literally from the first post you replied to.

How mad are you right now.

>>377056186
i'll just state the only reason why i didn't get one: retarded ass expensive memory cards, the best one of the bunch costed like a third or more of the price of the machine itself (i dunno about now, that ship has sailed)

>>377061356
>Last gen hardware as per the time of 2011
>2011
you are dumb.

>>377061459
>It was there literally from the first post you replied to.
You mean the post that implied the PS3?
The same post that compared the Switch and the Wii U bolstering said implication?

Right.

A hacked vita tv is perfect in everyway. Only 20 bucks, can use a cheap usb flash drive to play. Can easily hook it up anywhere.

>>377061480
>costed

12 year old detected.

>>377061531
So the Vita is magically not a 9th gen console? You fucking retard

>>377061554
>You mean the post that implied the PS3?
The post that literally said last gen systems as of 2011?

The post you literally pretend never gave you a time frame because you realized it meant you were reading it wrong?

>>377061531
That still makes the PS3 last gen dumbass.
Do you think the Switch is 9th gen or something as well?

>>377061676
>PS3 was a last gen console in 2011

Do you know when the ps4 came out?

>>377061438
>It's Nintenbros' usual argument since they got sodomized hard for two consecutive generations.
Two consecutive generations (N64 and GameCube) and WII U.

>>377061746
What does the PS4 have to do with the Vita somehow not being a 9th gen console?

>>377061305
>consumers determine desire
>consumers desire quality
>quality determines sales

Skipped out on Macroeconomics 101 I see. It's ok, not everyone gets a college education.

>>377061305
If you don't think that sales == Quality then you are even disregarding the only reason to Own a Vita which is P4G and is trash

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>>377061438
>It's Nintenbros' usual argument since they got sodomized hard for two consecutive generations
Based on what? Sales?

>>377061651
>The post that literally said last gen systems as of 2011?
Yes and the Vita is an EIGHTH gen system.
The PS3 is a SEVENTH gen system.

This isn't rocket science anon. You didn't even make the distinction between home and handheld in your post and instead referred to the lot as one generation.

How are you not getting this?

>>377060847
>>377057580
Its sad that the 3DS beat the Ps4 right?

>>377061893
tight is the best book ever written.

Justin Bieber is one of the greatest musicians of all time.

The transformers movies are excellent films and significantly better than every single movie ever made before 2000.

>>377061893
Candy Crush and Farmville must be amazing games.

>>377061458
>the quality games are the ones attracting the least customers

OKEY DOKEY!

>>377062078
Not him, but, handhelds aren't calculated in console generations and never have been, their schedule is way offset from them.

Sony could make a good portable console if they literally just took ps4 tech and put it into a handheld. Then just have all ps4 games run on a smaller resolution on it. Literally that is it. Then they have a huge library of cross compatible games.

>>377062251
>Then just have all ps4 games run on a smaller resolution on it.
It doesn't work that way.

Literally none of what you ask for works that way.

>>377062070
>Based on what?
More like games, even the Saturn/Dreamcast had better games than the N64/Gamecube

>>377056186

it fucking destroyed all of the consoles in Japan tho so it's not really a failure

>>377061438
>common sonygro argument
>b-but Nintendo
Remember when they tried picking on xbots with sales and then had the Wii thrown in their face to shut them up?
Why can't we go back to the times like that when there was less shitposting and more playing games?

>>377062184
>handhelds aren't calculated in console generations and never have been
Might want to update yourself their anon they have been included since the beginning.

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>>377057073
>Outsold Nintendos worst ever console
Underage leave

>>377062331
SO WHY ISNT THERE A NEW ONE?

>>377062331
PS3 sold more than Vita though, it did outsell all other consoles handily though.
>>377062340
>>b-but Nintendo
Yes? That's the thread's OP, that post is perfectly on point.

>>377062106
>worst selling handheld of all time
>worst games sales of all time
>HURR WE HAVE QUALITY THOUGH

>>377062312
>the games are quality because the games

Average Sony pony argument right there. Now tell me I have shit taste because I'm not a shut in weaboo.

>>377062645
>>worst selling handheld of all time
Sold better than the Nomad+Gamegear+NeoGeoPocket+WS+WSC put together, so no, it ain't the worst seling handheld of all time by far.
>>worst games sales of all time
That's not it either, and 3rd parties are quite happy with their profits on Vita.
>HURR WE HAVE QUALITY THOUGH
It does.

>>377062598
>That's the thread's OP, that post is perfectly on point.
What.
How is this a "b-but nintendo" thread?

>>377056186
I will never understand why the vita pisses off /v/ so much. It's great if you're a weeb.

>>377062957
>and 3rd parties are quite happy with their profits on Vita.
Which is why every major third party developer avoids it like the plague.

>>377062957
>That's not it either, and 3rd parties are quite happy with their profits on Vita
But nothing sold over 2million copies

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>>377056186
>fail
It is probably the most underground console of the generation. It gets no respect from major retailers. It gets a continue stream of releases and ports despite being a "dead" console (Operation Babel released today). Most game sales are either publisher direct or indie shops. The system also has an extremely strong attach rate.

Other than a few dramafags, it is a relatively niche console that with an amicable fanbase and some goodgaems. PCfags don't need to cry so hard since the good stuff will eventually hit the platform anyway.

>>377063203
Only if you're a very specific type of weeb.

>>377063203
Must be why Squenix of all people is still putting out games and exclusives for it, or Bamco.

>>377063342
Yeah, cheap multiplats and musous once every few years.

>>377056186
No Monster Hunter, no Pokemon, no Harvest Moon. Rather those are my reasons, but I still do like the Vita.

>>377058301
We aren't talking about the switch right now.

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Just imagine being so socially suicidal that you play children's toys in public

>>377063492
You're right, we're talking about the Vita. The dedicated handheld system that hasn't had a major release in years.

>>377063342
>Squenix of all people
Dude, its not even getting DQ11. A game that's also going to 3DS.

Because the only games worth actually playing were either PSP games or a remake of the worst game in the Persona series.

>>377063271
Tells a lot when most 3rd parties still put out more games for Vita than the 3DS despite selling less than one million.
>>377063425
>Yeah, cheap multiplats and musous once every few years.
Squenix just put out an exclusive in december, more games are still confirmed up to 2018.
And even the cheapest musou has more value than the average 3DS title, unless you want people to believe that weeb garbage like FE or mobileshit like Mario Maker is somehow "high quality".

>>377063716
DAN had a remake on the same system it originally came out for?

>>377063849
I forgot that game existed. It isn't worth playing at all, though, so my original statement still stands.

>>377056186
because it has NO FUCKING GAMES.
i just bought one like a month ago and theres nothing to be found here, not to mention the online store is a goddamn maze.

>>377063836
>Tells a lot when most 3rd parties still put out more games for Vita than the 3DS despite selling less than one million.
Yeah especially when those third parties are literal no names pushing out the same game multiple times

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>>377064063
>literal no names pushing out the same game multiple times
Nice fanfiction.
But now that you mention pushing out the same game multiple times, I think I've seen it before somewhere.

>>377064063
>same game multiple times
Like EO? Pokemon and Mario?

Sorry but utawarerumono is better than all 3.

>>377063836
>Tells a lot when most 3rd parties still put out more games for Vita than the 3DS despite selling less than one million

Shovelware and rehashes

>>377063836
>unless you want people to believe that weeb garbage like FE or mobileshit like Mario Maker is somehow "high quality".
That's rich coming from someone defending the system with Monster Monpiece and several hundred VNs on it.

>>377064341
You're saying it like the 3DS isn't different when Senran Kagura of all series started on it, and it's also full of panty quests and VNs.

>240p

Two forty peeeee, feels I'm being shut in a tiny box when I play my 3ds. You can count the pixels even the psp had better ppi.

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>>377064041
Here is an ancient list from 2014 just to get started.

You won't find Vita in regular retail. You either have to find a shop that isn't fukkengamestop or find an indie game shop that will niche and retro systems if you really want physical retail. Most publishers that deliver Vita tend to be mail order direct.

>>377064196
The difference is those are quality games

>>377064449
Oh yeah because Senran is the only variety of game on the 3DS. Totally the same scenario right?

>>377064341
>Monster Monpiece and several hundred VNs on it.

How is this a bad thing? lol

>>377064451
I don't really get this complaint. But I've been playing games on a SDTV until a year ago.

>>377064498
And offer variance from their previous iterations.

>>377064607
Its the only thing Vitards can cling.

>>377064498
>those are quality games
Animal Crossing is barely a game, Pokemon is kiddy garbage and so is its clone Yokai Watch, Bing Bing Wahoo need not apply either, that leaves us with MH which has been rehashed to death, so no, "quality" isn't an argument here.
>>377064539
And you're seriously implying Vita has only Monster Monpiece and VNs?
You're hopeless.

>>377064607
It's the one legit complaint about the 3ds, no one defends it on that point.

>>377064232
>utawarerumono

Wow, more weeb shit

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>>377064484
>List from 2014
Coincidentally, that's also the last year before Sony abandoned the Vita. Wonder why there hasn't been an update

>>377057580
Jesus fucking Christ, is this what being a Vita fag is?

>>377056186
No games

For reals though, it was just a matter of no games.

While the 3DS was just raking in games left and right, both hidden gems and big names alike, Vita went on a very very long time without any notable games.

By the time it's finally getting some new games every other console of the current generation have surpassed it.

It also didn't help the fact that Sony them selves openly declared that Vita was a dud.

>>377064718
Shut your face, uta2 is kamige. Go play pokemon for the 12th year in a row.

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>>377064687
I bet you wouldn't be calling MH a rehash if it was on the Vita

>>377064687
>And you're seriously implying Vita has only Monster Monpiece and VNs?
You're right.
You can also download some PSP games. Also known as the only games of worth on the system.

Honest answer.

People bought it because they wanted it to get the same hack as the regular psp had. That's why the games sold like ass.

>>377064858
I stopped playing MH at 3U, so no, I'd still call it a rehash, and depending on how MH5 looks it will still be a rehash.
>>377064864
Look, I know you don't have a Vita and know nothing about it, no need to keep on repeating yourself.

>>377064687
>its been so long since the Vita fanboys have played a game they don't know what one is any more
Seriously though is that your only current gen system? Why are you trying to defend it so badly?

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post your face when you own both vita and a new 3ds and think both are shit.

I want to play ragnarok ds for the first time again. Sadly the ds did not age well. I still play my psp.

>>377056186
No games inc.
Jewishly overprice proprietary memory

>>377065165
>I know you don't have a Vita
But I'm looking at it right now.
In any case, the difference between me and you is that I'm not a hardcore fanboy.

>>377065193
>Seriously though is that your only current gen system?
Console wise, yes, there's nothing worth owning right now when you have a PC and I'm not interested in Nintendo's first party shovelware.
>Why are you trying to defend it so badly?
Because it's a great platform with some amazing games, and people give it a bad rep out of brand loyalty and ignorance.
Is it so hard to understand?

The memory card.

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I love my vita!

>>377065520
>and people give it a bad rep out of brand loyalty and ignorance.
Ironically that's what you're doing right now by overstating it's worth and quality of games.
Any how you look at it you have brand loyalty to the system.

That or you're in denial of making a bad purchase.

>>377065245
>Ragnarok DS
Shit dude, you actually played that?

I own a vita and it's a hard sell. You buy a vita for portability and nothing else, yes the vita had some exclusives but most have dead online elements or have gotten ported. That being said the psp and ds had mutiplats but at least they got extra content most of the time, which is still true for the vita, but if you only play games at home I can't really suggest it.


On the other hand I don't understand the unreasonable hate people seem to have for the system. I think it's only due to associations with the Sony brand.

>>377061110
>>377061220
>>377061356
>>377061531
>>377061597
>>377061676
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>>377061853
Following this conversation is so confusing. It's like you guys are having different conversations.
I'll try to address some of the points that are actually comprehensible
>Vita is a Ninth Gen System
You're wrong and retarded
>Vita Is an Eighth Gen System
Close, but still wrong
>Vita Is Seventh Gen
Ya Got it
>Last Gen relative to 2011 is...
Sixth Gen
>PS3 was a last gen console in 2011
Wrong and retarded

>>377065820
Yes I fucking loved it, and the Summon Night games on the GBA an DS are what got me into summon night.

>>377059710
>SCEA blatantly did not like the vita and did not want to push it.

Were they ashamed of it or something?

>>377065970
>>Vita Is Seventh Gen
>Ya Got it
If you're going to make a post like this at least get your facts right.
The Vita is an 8th gen handheld, always has been.

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>>377059621
Meh, I got a 16GB for my Vita for $50 years ago and have had no reason to upgrade it.

It was a one time long-term purchase. Not defending, just saying you're not buying them like candy.

Pic related is my PSTV.

>>377065772
>overstating it's worth and quality of games.
I'm not overstating anything, I've enjoyed many games on it like SSD, Tales of Hearts R or SaGa Scarlet Grace, I love that I can play stuff like GGAC+R wherever I want and have all the indieshit I have on my PC on the go, let alone the PSP and PS library on it and enhanced DS ports like Shiren 5+ or all the Vanillaware games.
Can't say the same of my 3DS, which after playing MH3U and MM4 gathered dust for years until I sold it.

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The Vita failed because sony has a boner for proprietary memory cards. It's so fucking angering. Like many people have already stated itt, it was a good port machine and had fun games on it, but the buy in price was far too high for a handheld. Just look at this bullshit.

>>377066345
Partially bias because the Vita MC is an import, but it's still markedly higher

>>377060218
>It's ok when Nintendo does it.
Nintendo console warriors need to go

>>377066278
This is exactly what I mean, you're valuing these games higher than others because they're pandering to what you want rather than being games that are good purely as games and you're discarding anything else.

>>377066442
Does what exactly?
None of the points in the vita part apply to Nintendo.

>>377066442
I own a vita but you can't compare the vita to the switch. If I could play my vita games on the switch I'd drop the vita instantly. The only issue with the switch as hardware is the cheap plastic feel and lack of OLED,

>>377057256
1 vita game sold more than 2 million (minecraft)
8 wiiu games sold over 2 million

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQnxSz-MFQ

Just ask the guy in charge of selling it.

>>377064718
>He doesn't like underwater ray romano

>>377065664
That's getting disabled in the fall.

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>>377066624
switch already has 1 game (as we know, MK8D could be over 2 million but I have doubts) over 2 million

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>>377058143

im surprised nobody has replied to this yet.
this thread is total bullshit

>>377066834
I wasn't disagreeing with you, but still an import.

>>377066446
>you're valuing these games higher than others because they're pandering to what you want
Excuse me? Is there any other reason for buying games other than playing things you enjoy playing?
>rather than being games that are good purely as games
This is a pointless statement.

>>377066905
Clearly you've fallen too far.
Enjoy your regret.

>>377057716
You're right, the Switch is so much better, with great exclusives like Zel- oh wait, well there's Mario Kar-, oh hold on, w-well it has 1 2 Switch and Snipperclips! Got you there didn't I!

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>>377066446
So you dont want games to be good games Anon?

>>377066278
>I've enjoyed many games on it like SSD, Tales of Hearts R or SaGa Scarlet Grace, I love that I can play stuff like GGAC+R

Is this trolling?

>>377067219
Are you trying to say the games he listed are legitimately good games?

>>377066998
>Clearly you've fallen too far.
What are you even talking about?
The only consoles I regret buying are my 3DS and the old PS3, because both had only a handful of games worth playing, I'm very happy with my Vita, especially since I commute every day, but I guess that you were the real fanboy all along.

>>377066889
I missed that import tag, dang. But yeah I'm still upset about those

>>377066624
Right. And both are failures, although WiiU was less of a failure that had at least a handful of good games. Vita had nothing unless you were a sperg weeb

>best selling game was minecraft

>>377067476
>exceptions and personal taste

>>377067387
>The only consoles I regret buying are my 3DS and the old PS3, because both had only a handful of games worth playing
Are you retarded?
If you have a Vita and can find games on it to play then the 3DS and PS3 should have been a perfect combo seeing as they have the same weebshit plus more that's on the Vita.
Nigga this is denial plain and simple.

>>377056186
That is honestly way better than I though it did.

>>377067735
PS4+PC would be the Vita replacement

>>377067735
>the 3DS and PS3 should have been a perfect combo seeing as they have the same weebshit plus more that's on the Vita.
They don't though.
Did you actually own those consoles?

>>377056186
no monster hunter

>>377067834
>Did you actually own those consoles?
I should be asking you that seeing as you don't know what's on them.

>>377067876
Freedom Unite and Frontier, legally

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Too wide of a niche market and not enough games to grab interest of casuals and children.

Ironically enough, the Vita is still kicking somewhat while the Wii U is dead and buried

Take that for whatever it's worth

>>377067541
Sales speak for themselves

>>377058213
it's been hacked for nearly a year now

>>377067957
Frontier is barely monster hunter.
FU is clunky as sin and doesn't work with they Vita's small ass buttons and analogs.

>>377068104
>small ass buttons and analogs.

FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT

>>377067783
Funny enough I'm using my PS3, PC and Vita to avoid having to get a PS4.

>>377068027
Eh, the Wii U isn't exactly dead seeing as it gets a few shovelware titles now and then from relatively unknown devs. Kind of similar to the Vita but not nearly the same scale.

Either way there's nothing of worth on the two of them coming out any more.

>>377068265
Dude, they're smaller than the PSP and 3DS and still have convex analogs.
Unless you're a literal dwarf you're not going to be playing anything other than RPGs and VNs comfortably

>>377058326
Cute vita, i bet one is hacked and one is for remote play.

>>377068297
Guy you replied to, as have I.

But PS3 is slowly drying up alongside stupid publisher choices (Bamco not localizing Berseria PS3).

Fortunately I have the backlog to dive into.

>>377068429
FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT

>>377068458
Yeah, I don't see PS3 lasting too much longer. There were some annoying decisions they made like not releasing PS3 SO5 over here too. I'm just not liking how this console gen is turning out. I'm not saying all the games are bad but I hate the shift to paid online.

The memory cards were too fucking expensive, that's why.

>>377068060
I'm glad we agree the ps4 and fifa are the peaks of gaming.

>>377068318
The last game headed towards it is a Cars 3 shovelware. It's pretty dead at this point

The Vita gets the scappings from the PS4, which isn't great but it's something.

>>377068845
>The Vita gets the scappings from the PS4,
Not really?
It's basically getting the nip equivalent of the same shovelware on Wii U

>>377067941
You must be joking.
The PS3 has almost nothing that I can't play on PC, I don't care about DQ/FF or Uncharted shit, none of the PS3 first party games appeal to me bar Wipeout, many RPG are either on PC on Vita too.
the 3DS is a sad joke if you don't like MH or Nintendo's first party, I got tired of MH after 3U and the only title I can say I truly enjoyed on the system was Metal Max 4, which is absolutely great, even though not as good as 3 or 2:R on the DS but I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoyed it immensely, I don't like Etrian Odyssey and SMTIV was pretty mediocre and not worth its money at all, moreover there's fucking nothing outside of mediocre platformers and even more mediocre JRPGs on it, oh, and some crappy games like FF Explorers, big deal.

Neither platforms were worth it for me, Vita has a much larger library with tons of genres that the 3DS dreams of, better specs and controls too.

What are you going to bring out? Sales? Go play Fifa or Skyrim if sales are all that matters to you, but I'm not a normalfag who thinks that sales are equivalent to quality, even on the 3DS or DS the better games are those that sold in the 200/100K range.

>>377069039
>doesn't like weebshit
>doesn't like causal games
What are you even playing on the vita?

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>>377069156
>>doesn't like weebshit
Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.
>>doesn't like causal games
That would be an interesting genre, but I do like a few casual games
>What are you even playing on the vita?
Games?

>>377069156
He doesn't even like hard games by the looks of things.

Either he's praising the Vita for the grand total of four games or he's just trying to false flag.

15 million x 200 dollars is 10000 million billion dollars it was a great success

I just bought one the other day actually, should be arriving in about a week.

>>377069441
>He doesn't even like hard games
Such as?
MH? Please.

>>377069451
250 on launch, 300 for 3G

then all that MC $

>>377069451
>what are production costs
>what is advertising
It was a flop

>>377069532
>Nintendo does the exact opposite with the Wii U
>Miraculously achieves the same result

>>377069518
You tell me, you've essentially put a cross though every genre.

>>377069441
>Difficulty correlates to one's enjoyment of a game
Nani?

>>377069637
>you've essentially put a cross though every genre.
How?
Just because I don't like casual garbage or rehashes doesn't mean I don't like entire genres.

>>377069609
Nintendo put in less money and thought into the Wii U though.
Which is why it had abysmal advertising and a poor name to boot but was never sold at a loss

>>377069774
So you're putting worth in something solely because they're new instead of them being good. That's not a good way to do things.

>>377069714
Pay attention before you reply. It'll help you next time.

If there's one thing that sucks it's that they barely bring any games for it overseas. I imported DT2-2 just because I wasn't sure Atlus would bring it over.

>>377069919
>It'll help you next time.
Doubt it.

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Trying to kill piracy it killed itself
Fucking pottery

>>377069924
Man the situation with DT2-2 fucking blows. Atlus doesn't do PC ports and vita is too old for this shit, they pretty much have the game held hostage.

Seeing as this is the closest thing to a vita thread does it have any rider games or anything similar other than Genesis?

>>377070150
I'm surprised they even brought Utawarerumono over but that's also on PS4. I wouldn't be surprised if on the off chance they do bring 2-2 over that it's only digital.

>>377068741
Peak of casual gaming, which is still quality gaming.

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>>377066792
whelp better jump ship to another platform then

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>>377056186
1. Backward compatible to PSP/PS1? Sure, gib mony plox...just kidding, fuck you.
2. Inexpensive upgradeable memory? Fuck you.
3. Awesome marketing? Fuck you, it's a portable controller for your PS4 fuck the cool indie/low budget titles.
4. Name that inspires purchase? Fuck your donkey in its ass.
5. Fantastic 1st/2nd party games? Not any a year past launch!
6. Games to inspire brand loyalty? Oh, 3DS got them - tooo baad.
7. Easy access price for the thing itself? Fuck you, its got the Sony name, that's a $50 tax right there, fuck Nintendo and their price drops WE'RE THE REAL THING!
8. PS2 support? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAfuck you.
9. Official support from Sony after 2013? Fuck you.
10. Sony should give a fuck when cell phone gaming is a thing? Fuck you.

>>377069919
>So you're putting worth in something solely because they're new instead of them being good.
That's not that either, but whatever you say.

Do you think I want to spend more money on a MH that runs on the very same engine and recycles 80% of the content for like, three more games? I don't, because I know what I'm gonna get, a lazy rehash with some scraps of new content that's not worth my time or money.
Conversely, I didn't think twice in buying Metal Max 4 because I knew the devs would deliver a good game like the other five games since the NES days, I trust them and if they were to put a new MM game on the Switch you can be sure that I'd keep an eye on it because I love the series and I'm sure they won't disappoint me.
I put worth in games that have some good ideas behind them or that are super tailored to my taste, that's it, Vita has many of those, more than other consoles at the moment.

>>377070637
>I put worth in games that have some good ideas behind them
Your posts tell a different story.

>>377070742
>Your posts tell a different story.
How?

>>377071156
He's a Monster Hunter fan who believes that the girls from Monster Musume is in Monster Hunter, and you get to fuck them, too.

>>377071156
You don't honestly believe the games you listed have any particularly good ideas do you?
At the most they just use the bare essentials and wrap it up in a style.

>>377071393
>You don't honestly believe the games you listed have any particularly good ideas do you?
I do, explain to me why they don't.
What's bad in Metal Max 4 or 3?
What's bad in Soul Sacrifice Delta?
What's bad in SaGa Scarlet Grace?
What's bad in Umihara Kawase?

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>>377062457
He never implied a gen when he mentioned vita.
Are you actually this retarded?
He stated, ps3 was current gen at the time, and the previous would have been ps2, that same year the vita released.
Either you're a bad troll or you are utterly retarded.

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>>377071393
I'm waiting, Anon.
Or maybe you just never played any of those games and talked out of your ass like all your previous posts?
That would be pitiful now, wouldn't it?

>>377071393
So?
Come on Anon, you were so eager to tell me how shit those games are.