>oh a new upd- rrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Stop caring about bad games.

It was good at one time. That time has passed.

>rainy day crate
What did they mean by this?

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Updates like this coupled with the horribly cancerous community made me lose all the love I had for this game.

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Hmmm...

>>377050970
Just play casual and lobbies. Enable nohats mod and the game is still great.

>>377051332
wasn't this made like 3+ years ago? Why is it just now FINALLY getting added lmao

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>tried it on a friend's computer when the orange box hit
>didn't care too much because was a csbabby
>finally got the game after the mannconomy update because friends couldn't shut up about it
>realize how great the game actually is
>goes free to play less than a year later
>whatever, the community/modded servers I'm playing on aren't affected
>updates keep getting worse
>population starts to wither
>suddenly community servers are pushed to the back and the official matchmaking thing is introduced
>so many servers die
>end up quitting soon after
>looking around these threads over the years I see people with thousands of hours in the game
>keep thinking I could have had that much fun
I wish I would have given it another chance when it launched, sad to see where the game has ended up.

>game is not dead! its always on the steam top 10 most played!
>go to twitch
>10 streams total
>go find a game
>nobody even talks or plays the game
>everyone just fucks around and talk about trading hats

Nah its fucking dead.

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>>377052256
Anon, we didn't make those thousands of hours by dropping the game back then. Quit being a faggot. TF2 is just as good as ti ever was, just has more shit clogging it up now.

>>377052952
I said over the years, we've had these threads for as long as it's been free to play and the crate economy got out of hand. Even when I started playing there were threads like this with jaded people showing off how much they've put into the game.

>>377050843
Vampires pls go

>>377052607
it's not dead to third worlders

Do people still buy keys?

>>377052256
still better than OW

>>377050959
selling dat dere rainy day case for the rainy day fund

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>>377052952
>TF2 is just as good as ti ever was,
Anon, let it go..

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>>377050843
>still to this day getting those stupid community cosmetic crate drops
>have tons of crates sitting in backpack
>cant sell anything on marketplace because i havent bought any shitty games in a year

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>>377053570
lol no

>>377054212
You need to sell around 60 fucking crates to get one dollar, and when you sell 200 items total, Valve will kindly ask you to tell something about yourself because some US law or something. I'm dirty foreigner so it doesn't concern me, but I don't think selling regular crates worth this much hassle.

>>377054336
Holy shit. Back in my day a key was worth around 9 refined.

>>377054480
i want to sell all these fucking killstreak kits, parts and such but steam decided to 180 on everything and make the rule that you must buy something from the store in a year or you cant use the marketplace

>>377054627
I remember when they were like 4-5, and I considered that a lot.

>>377054770
Actually yeah that sounds more like it.
I haven't played since the Man vs Machine update.

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w e w

>>377054627
I remember when they were 1 refined and BIlls/Buds were still 30+ keys.
now their fucking 5 dollars

>>377054643
Well, buy bad rats or something. "Invest" some money into selling ability and get profit, lol.

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>>377052952
You're a very dedicated person. You're also fucking stupid.

I await the day where valve does something that completely upturns the TF2 economy and makes the prices of absolutely everything crash.
It'll never happen, but I hope they give you a key for every 25 levels on that shitty matchmaking badge.

>>377051332
That's amazing and I will buy one of these as soon as I get home.

>>377055748
What can Valve do with the economy? And who the fuck needs the economy? Can't fucking trade 1:1 because of hat hungry jew community.

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>>377054192
>>377055591
Fuck you

It's the same game. Same classes. Same dumb humor. Same mechanics. You faggots always complain a but losing something but you never lost anything. You're just whiny little shits, moping about nonexistent problems. Or worse, gripes that you could easily fix through your own actions.

>>377056238
You just don't understand.

>>377056238
>you never lost anything
baby face's blaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_pTnrap_mQ

>get Orange Box for HL2
>play TF2, have fun, reminds me of TF.
>suddenly hats and items
>keep playing
>develop collection of tons of shit, it all goes vintage when that changeover happened
>keep playing, keep growing collection of shit
>start losing interest after Mann Vs Machine dies down
>update breaks game, won't launch now
>delete everything, plan to reinstall eventually
>after realizing I haven't played in ages, decide to sell off entire backpack
>Valve changed rules, can't use marketplace without a smartphone now

Well, if I ever get around to getting a smartphone, I'll be selling off my entire backpack. Hopefully I can get enough steambux to buy a game.

>>377055748
>but I hope they give you a key for every 25 levels on that shitty matchmaking badge.
So you say Valve should give something they can sell for $2.49 for free ($0, zero bucks)? Boy, this site never ceases to surprise me.

>>377056238
you're edgy as hell m8

>>377056528

You can use the market with a delay though. There's also desktop versions of their authenticator. Just not very safe.

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>>377056610
>So you say Valve should give something they can sell for $2.49 for free ($0, zero bucks)? Boy, this site never ceases to surprise me.

>>377056528
Vintages cost absolutely fucking nothing. Even cool stuff like Hound Dog goes for what, $2? It's not even one key. On the other hand, artificially rare banana hat costs more than entire Ethiopia. I don't understand how community decides what costs how much.

>>377054627
>9
You are like a little baby. Back in MY day Keys were worth 2 Refined.

>>377057069
You can't resell loot box items for money though

>>377050843
>Team Fortress 2

Stopped reading right there.

>>377057542
Better than Counter-Strike.

Also, from added items many seem to be references. Mario cap, engi items feel like Back to the Future, Flash's helmet. Some other medieval stuff too. And also headgear for Classic team's Sniper and Pyro.
They actually might mean something by that. Not.

>>377054627
I remember the days of 2.33

pottis

>>377054770
>>377054627
>>377054336

For YEARS they were 2.66. Then the rampant inflation started as Valve went into full "hat updates" mode and the economy tanked.

>>377055748
The economy already crashed. Everything that was historically used as currency is now worthless. Used to be that Buds and Bills were how you made big trades. Now their value has plummeted despite their scarcity remaining unchanged.

Tf2 is still fun. All I personally want is a custom server to play some well-made custom maps on once a week.

>>377052607
>Twitch
The only stream worth watching is Stabby and that is only when he's not being high on weed.

>>377054336
Why did buds go down in price?

>>377050843
SERVER WHEN

>>377052952
> This mattress is as good as it ever was, just has a fuckton of bedbugs crawling around in it now

>>377050942
>>377050970
>>377052256
>>377052607
>>377053484
>>377054192
>>377054212
>>377055591
>>377055748
>>377056528

kys Blizzdrones

>>377052607
>I'm too dumb to use a server browser
Anyone in the murrican timezone has no excuse.

@377060938
u first ;)

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>there are people who seriously expected keys to stay at 2.66 ref when everyone gets metal for free and it continuously enters the market without getting expended
>my face when I'm sharing a website with plebs who have this little understanding of economics

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>it's okay for Zelda to chop out content like a hard mode and resell it back to you

>it's okay for Blizzard to release nothing but loot crates and destroy the balance of their game

>it's even okay for Sony to make multiplayer games like TLOU and Uncharted, which offer pay2win items that give you blatant advantages

>but when Valve makes some cosmetics, suddenly they're the devil

Yes, I know you want the pyro update. I want it too. But Rome wasn't built in a day.

>>377051382
>nohats mod
>sounds interesting, lets check it out
>open your game
>mess with the files the worst way possible
>hope nothing goes wrong and valve doesn't ban you for messing with the games files

nope

>>377054936
How the fuck did this happen? Did they give away more buds?
How much is Max's head these days?

>>377061621
Yeah man, I literally go around advising people in order to get them banned which wouldn't change how I experience the game at all.

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>exploring Mementos
>Yusuke tells us he was asked to draw a doujin
>get attacked before I can hear the rest by the shitty starfish demon

>>377061759
whoops, wrong thread, my bad

>>377061727
I'm not saying you do, but valve does have the right to ban if you mess with shit like that, especially when it works in pure servers. desu if it was a little less time consuming I would do it too.

>have to literally install blender so you can remove the hats from the model

WEW

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>>377061409
>its ok to valve make so much money from cosmetics they never ever touch game development again. not even 11 years after the game was released

>>377061842
No you don't. I think you're just incapable of googling the right hting

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>>377060938
>thinking the only people who hate tf2 are overcucks

if you play ANY hat collecting simulator, you are a pleb.

>>377061701
There was a bug that called you to dupe items

Buds was hit hardest

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>>377061962
Oh, ok. So this post from 1 day ago means nothing? Also, you think it's ok to play with headless pyros?

>>377058796

Nah, big name traders convinced everyone through their stupid spreadsheets that items had a fixed value, when they normalized the prices they started inflating them.

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>got a rainy day crate and sold it for £3

>>377056905
u wot

If anyone's being edgy it's all these cringe doomsayers

>>377062346
All I know is that I didn't need Blender

>>377062371
Oh god you're right. Oh well at least I'm sure they lost shitloads when they crashed the economy.

>>377062153
Wasnt that at all

Basically Buds were being used as an official currency on alot of the trading sites, which meant that backpacks were valued in buds. Problem is that Buds constantly fluctuate in value, meaning 1 day they could be 28 keys and the next day they would be 22 keys. Because your backpack would be valued in buds rather than keys, which are always the same value, the value of your backpack would constantly fluctuate. And When the value of buds went dont really low like it constantly does, people panicked and sold alot of their buds, which diminished their value, which led to buds losing more value, and leading to an endless cycle until buds lost all their value.

>>377051332
OH SHIT, IT'S EARIO

>>377054906
>people are still salty about the halo

w o w

>>377061409
>zelda
you're right about this one

>blizzard
I don't even play OW and i know they're putting out balance patches like literally every week and literally 100% of the dlc is cosmetic

>sony
yeah this is mostly true

If we're talking true balance problems TF2 is a fucking mess both mechanically and balance wise. Valve hasn't done jack shit in year and just continues to add more and more cosmetics. I love TF2 but boy it feels REAL lackluster now.

>>377061409
Valve is just as bad as all those others though. long gone is the time when they actually made decent shit, now it's all jewing, like most others.

we had to learn to let go of EA and Ubisoft, it's about time people realised they gotta let Valve go too.

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>>377050843
PYRO UPDATE FUCKING WHEN
LITERALLY JUST RELEASE 1 NEW WEAPON TO HOLD US OFF FOR THE NEXT WEEK OR SO
SOMETHING
PLEASE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>377061701
>>377062512
I'd also assume the value of these currency cosmetics dropped because of the implementation of the steam trading system. Back before that shit was around, you had a max of eight slots to trade with, which is why bills hats and earbuds were turned into currency items because they were rare, limited items that weren't *too* limited and widespread enough for them to thrive as a currency.

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>>377061759
Don't fucking diss Decarabia.

>>377062439
>Decided to open it
>Got the soldier jacket
>Check market
>£0.86
Fuck me. I never learn.

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>>377050843
BUY MY HATS

>>377050843
pay up goys

>>377061759
There's nothing else to it besides Futaba offering to give him a crash course.

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This is my favorite hat, every time I see it it reminds me to never preorder anything ever

>>377064841
https://youtu.be/IKc3ykoVmZw?t=405

I remember that Valve promised to release a blogpost a while before the Pyro Update, to collect feedback regarding balance

Something tells me the update still has a couple months left, if not more

>>377050843
>the updates aren't just cosmetics, we swear!
I fucking hate tf2's community

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>cactus canyon never got finished

>>377063484
Nobody fucking cares about TF2
The way Valve works is extremely detrimental to old games. If you worked at Valve and could choose any project you'd like would you want to work on new exciting technology with Half Life VR or work on a fucking 10 years old game?

>>377065765
go fuck yourself Blizznigger, greentexting a fact doesn't make it stop being true.
http://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=updates
even in this update, there was a bug fix. For the last multiple updates, there have been bug fixes.
I'm not happy that the content update is taking so long either, but saying "lol xDD updates are le only hates XD HATS AMIRITE" is a lie.

>>377066368
> W-W-WE GOT A BUG FIX!
That's fucking sad to be honest with you familia. One (1) fucking thing in the update that isn't content. I feel bad for you

>>377066365
Stop spouting outdated memes. Multiple people at Valve have dedicated jobs due to their skillsets, the "everyone does what they want" shit is a lie.
The TF team has 16 people working on it currently. It's had no more than 20 people working on it since its release, throughout every major update.

>>377066542
> 16 people
> The only thing they can pump out are hats
Sad!

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>>377050843

>Went from 6k to 4.

Damnit I need to cash out all the keys already.

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>>377066510
>That's fucking sad to be honest with you familia. One (1) fucking thing in the update that isn't content
Okay, it's content you want?
We have 100+ maps in TF2, and 25% of them already go almost completely unplayed, because there are only so many players. Adding more maps is just going to get them dumped unless it's an exceptional map, which is why Valve is working on making a good map now.
We have 170+ weapons in TF2. Every single one has 2-6 stats that players have to remember exists. The more weapons you add, the more stuff people have to remember.

Additionally, thanks to custom maps and mods, TF2 has more content than pretty much any other game in existence. Just about everything you can think of has been recreated in TF2. I could trawl through community content and it would take me a lifetime to see and play it all for fuck's sake.

This is why they add hats. It's the only form of content (and just because you don't like it doesn't make it content, since many players enjoy having cosmetics) that doesn't negatively affect gameplay.
What the fuck sort of content do you suggest they add every single update that isn't going to negatively affect the game? Answer me that, you shitposting nigger.
>I feel bad for you
For playing a game with some of the most content out of any game on the market which still gets regular bugfixing updates? Are you literally retarded, or just paid?

>>377067227
btw that picture isn't even a tiny fraction of all the TF2 custom maps in existence.

>>377067227
Most maps are shit and rightfully don't get played because they're shit.
TF2 would benefit a lot from a seasonal map pool rotation.
Also most weapons are downright garbage
> Valve won't add more becuz it be hard to rembah al diz info boss
Oh ok so all TF2 players are retarded gotchu senpai.

>>377067479
>Oh ok so all TF2 players are retarded gotchu senpai.
Name all 170 weapons in TF2 and what they do without looking at the wiki. Right now, you niggerspeaking faggot.

The fact that you can't is why they won't release weapons every single update. The game already has fucking truckloads of content.
Now fuck off and shitpost somewhere else.

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I miss when hats were the only cosmetics, the only thing I hate about TF2 now is that it's a visual clusterfuck

>>377068647
http://www.teamfortress.tv/35222/no-hats-mod
If you're willing to go a bit further by downloading a separate program (which has the added benefit of allowing you to change weapon stats in private servers to test out different things), then No Hats Mod lets you selectively pick and choose which hats to get rid of, and which hats to choose.

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>>377052952
speak for your fucking self. i picked up tf2 with the orange box at the end of '07 and i dropped it for good after a brief relapse on the merasmus KOTH event.
tf2 is garbage now, this should have been evident when they stapled the CSGO system of leeching money from the community onto the game and introduced fucking weapon paints. it's embarrassing the charade they're doing with its
body, still releasing hats and paints to exploit the people who still play.

>>377056238
sick anime react, eagerly await the next one

>>377069974
>tf2 is garbage now, this should have been evident when they stapled the CSGO system of leeching money from the community onto the game and introduced fucking weapon paints.
What is the logical connection exactly between "community made cosmetic items" and "bad game"??????????

If you don't like the cosmetics just don't fucking buy them you dumb faggot. The game itself is as good to play as ever.

>>377062760
>Got banned from a server because I was wearing a halo
I miss TF2. I wish I could go back and not worry about it being a shitty f2p game that is reliant on microtransactions for trash cosmetics.

>>377070146
are you el stupido
i'm not going to waste my time supporting a game which doesn't deserve it, from a company that ruins everything they touch and consume.
why the fuck do you even think i buy cosmetics if i dislike what they stand for in games, you give such smaaaart advice man, good one. im sure me not buying them will certainly remove them from my vision in-game anyway amongst several thousand people, especially when this is a first-person shooter"??????????

>>377052607
>streaming a decade old game
>expecting thousands of viewers
melee must be dead then

>>377062346
you sure are a retard, huh
maybe it was you who was the problem the whole time

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>>377070427
>i'm not going to waste my time supporting a game which doesn't deserve it
What the fuck are you talking about? It doesn't cost you anything to play TF2, in fact it costs Valve to run servers. You're not "supporting" them.
If the game is good you play it, TF2 has excellent gameplay, that's all there is to say.
>im sure me not buying them will certainly remove them from my vision in-game anyway amongst several thousand people
read the fucking thread idiot >>377068914
>allowing players to buy cosmetics is "exploiting" them
You are literally the vegan of video games.

If you don't want to play TF2 just don't play TF2 but stop coming in here and being a faggot.

>>377060938
>h-he dislikes X, that means he MUST support Y!
Can you faggots fuck off already.

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>>377052256

Over 4 years. I now that feel. I was late to PC gaymen and this game in general.

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>>377062371
Fuck that spreadsheet holy shit.
I remember when it was first introduced and suddenly no one was flexible on their prices, they always referenced the spreadsheet.

>>377052607

I still end up in games with no hats and gibbuses. surprisingly people are still picking the game up.

>>377070975
you are very silly
i very specifically stated it costs me my time to support the game, i've got 3 or 5 hours in my past fortnight on steam of videogames and they're fucking good ones. supporting the game is as easy as populating servers and getting other rats to stay on the ship.
that nohats post is literally actually and fully right above mine, yes i can fucking see if, but your advice that i should somehow drag my cash away from the steam store and finally stop buying hats if i dislike valve economising so hard is the dumbest series of assumptions i've ever seen, as if me not buying hats would somehow change the whole environment of tf2 anyway.
basically what i'm getting at is 'no u' and 'stop post', and fuck me, way to use the bait image of 'nobody is allowed to dislike things that i like, ESPECIALLY not if they voice their opinions'.

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>>377071902
>i very specifically stated it costs me my time to support the game
Time spent playing a good game is not wasted. TF2 is a good game. This is something you have completely failed to refute and instead you bitch about hats, which do not make TF2 a bad game.
>and getting other rats to stay on the ship
I play TF2 because it's a good game, not just because other people play it.
>and finally stop buying hats if i dislike valve economising so hard is the dumbest series of assumptions i've ever seen, as if me not buying hats would somehow change the whole environment of tf2 anyway.
No, idiot, I'm not saying you can or should change anything. I'm saying if you don't like the system don't buy from it. Nobody is forcing you. TF2 is entirely playable and good without a single cosmetic item.

Are you from South America? Because you're one dumb fucking monkey.

>>377071902
>basically what i'm getting at is 'no u' and 'stop post', and fuck me, way to use the bait image of 'nobody is allowed to dislike things that i like, ESPECIALLY not if they voice their opinions'.
Your opinions are being stated as factual and are fucking wrong. Hats are not required to play TF2 and hats existing do not make TF2 a worse game.

State your opinion all you want but when you are wrong I'm going to correct you and tell you to fuck off. If you can't do anything other than make incorrect complaints about a game in its thread, you need to stop posting in the thread.

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>>377052256
>>377071725
plebs

>>377050942
It's still fun if you give zero shits about the Mannconomy or crates.

Weapon balancing in TF2 is something Valve surprisingly has down well, and fan-maps are still always being made. It's my real reason for coming back, fuck whatever official jewery others care about.

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>>377072898
I don't know why one would care about the economy and hats at all. I haven't traded anything or bought a hat since like 2014. The game is just damn good.

>>377052952
tfw quit before all this official game mode bullshit like mann vs machine, glad I did

I got too involved with trading, between unusuals and rare items it got a bit too much. It's still nice to see one of my old #1s on page 2 of mattie's inventory all these years later still though.
What killed the game for me was going on hiatus for a while due to uni, coming back to my favorite servers and them being nothing but new fucking kids. It wasn't just that day, all my favorite servers seemed to have fallen apart, people I knew still played but the communities I cherished were ruined.

Back in the day tf2 idling was great. I used to run a bunch of computers that would bitcoin mine with gpus, play tf2 in sandboxed textmode idling. I was able to push ~10 accounts per machine idling. I'd have f2p accounts bulked up with items and condensed down until it would be well worth it worth to upgrade the account. I wasn't doing the tf2 stuff for money per say but its how I got thousands of dollars in steam games

There's many things people would say "ruined" tf2, no doubt about it that valve made many poor decisions. But I am wondering, what do you think was the worst idea?

Personally I think it was expanding the mann co store, specifically starting with tickets. We suddenly had an item that would always be worth a set amount.

>>377073435
>what do you think was the worst idea?
Sets with bonus stats.

>>377073435
Matchmaking, by far

Say what you want about F2P or microtransactions, but they left no significant impact on the entire game like Casual/Competitive did

>>377073491
This Even though silent de-cloak is the best.

I'm certain they removed that update mostly because they wanted to sell more hats and there would be no point of owning more if you had the one hat you needed for a set bonus.

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>>377062439
>got the crate, tohught nothing of it
>see this post
>mfw
>sell it in time to get a quick buck
thx m8

>>377050843
Valve was a mistake.

Should've died off after Half-Life 2, since they abandoned what people loved about them anyway.

>>377057182
Good

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>>377051332
Did valve forget about their guidelines anymore?
>Obscenity: We will automatically reject any obscene items. (Don't even bother.)

>Copyright infringement: Even if you made the model yourself, if you used an existing likeness, it’s copyright infringement. We can't and won't put other people's intellectual property in our game, for the simple reason that we don't own it. They do. We will automatically reject any items based on existing intellectual property.

>Overall Tone: We may reject an item if we feel it deviates too far from the tone of TF, either by being too cartoony or too photorealistic.

>Gameplay: TF's characters have distinctive silhouettes that help a player differentiate between classes in the heat of battle. Consequently, we tend to avoid items that overtly obscure or confuse these silhouettes.

>Noisy Details: We tend to reject items that utilize a lot of fine surface details (scales, skin pores, fabric textures, super-detailed normals, etc.). We prefer items that utilize flat colors that are close to the TF color family used by the base game. Items that are fully black, fully white, or fully saturated tend to read poorly and clash with the game environment. Most TF items use a subtle vertical gradient with a subtle ambient occlusion layer multiplied over the top of the colors.

>Technical limitations: Items that require changes in character clothing or facial animation might be considered too costly to produce. Note: This does not mean that we will always refuse an item based on technical complexity. But nine times out of ten, it probably isn't helping your case.

>>377074362
Left 4 Dead 1 and maybe 2 were the last good games. I lost interest in Counter strike: go due to them banning gambling skins cause of two rotten apples and Dota has been shit, and is literally getting worse as time goes on.

>>377071817
No, I just prefer the default look the characters have.
Though sometimes I'll add in a little something like the Soldier's cigar.

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>>377074670
>https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Bonk%27n%27Flash
>Removed for resembling too much like the flash
>while literal mario clone hat is acceptable
Just add pic related while you're at it valve.

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>>377074670
>Obscenity
Burly Beast (seriously who the fuck allowed what is essentially shirtless Medic)
>Overall Tone
Xenomorph head
>Gameplay
Xenomorph head again
>Technical limitation
The sheer number of cosmetics already drop the game's overall framerate

Valve just doesn't give a fuck anymore

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>>377074846
This was also added in this update

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>>377074846
>not allowing major copyright anime reference
>allowing marin cap that should only stay in mods

>>377075042
>Xenomorph head
>the set in general
Fuck that set so much.
>"But it's a halloween costume, so it can't be used all the time."
Fuck that gimmick aswell.

>>377075105
RIP VALVE

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>playing tf2 after mannconomy

>>377075202
Scratch that every Halloween costume after the second is pure cancer because they ruin the game's silhouettes.

>>377075492
Mannconomy ruined the whole idea of Robin Walker's ideas of hats. Instead of Valve making money off of the game itself they rely on micro-transactions for money instead.
Maybe there isn't a Half Life 2 Episode 3 because Gabe was too busy shilling fucking hats to Team Fortress 2 & Portal 2.

>Been playing since day 1.
>never had problems with mlp, homestuck, or trade niggers.
>/v/ claims they get raped on a daily basis by these things everytime they open steam.

what the fuxk you guys doing?

>>377071817
Sometimes I intentionally either don't use hats or dress terribly so that people will get pissed that I killed them. Not to imply I play anymore, but it's something I did when I used to play.

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>>377075042
>>377074846
Valve doesn't give a fuck because the community doesn't give a fuck.

They added the mario clone hat because people wanted it. Hell, even people in this thread wanted it. >>377051332

>>377075492
>not playing the best game on the market
What the fuck else are you gonna play? Casualwatch? Battleborn? P2Wadins?

>>377054336
>Buying 1 key
>have to put in 1 WHOLE page of ref

>>377076097
there's a lot you can play

insurgency
day of infamy
all the quakes
ro2

tf2 has sucked since mannconomy

>>377073023
Valve did everything in it's power to dissuade people from playing in private servers which is the only real reason to play the game. All other reasons are more or less garbage. You don't need a competitive tryhard cancer mode because a good community server will have great players that communicate and don't get pissy over winning and losing. Vanilla valve servers are so brain dead and play all the garbage maps that it's sad to think that thats what a new player will experience. It's really no wonder why TF2 is dying a slow death.

Even recently the when I had the urge to play I really had to hunt in the new UI to find where they hid the private server browser.

>>377076097
>They added the mario clone hat because people wanted it. Hell, even people in this thread wanted it
Not saying I don't want them, but it just blatantly goes against their fucking rules is the main issue, not the quality of the item itself.

>>377076196
>insurgency
>ro2
Doesn't have the same skill-based movement that TF2 shines from, doesn't have anywhere near as much fun content to play with as TF2 does, and is much less populated than TF2.
>all the quakes
TF2's community competitive scene has a higher population than the total casual and competitive population of every incarnation of Quake combined.

I used to play Live a lot. I stopped around 2015 when it just became impossible to find a game below 100 ping without waiting literally HOURS.

>tf2 has sucked since mannconomy
t. hasn't played since mannconomy

>>377072772
We get it, you Idle.

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>>377076542
>it goes against their rules
Yeah, and?

>>377076465
>I really had to hunt in the new UI to find where they hid the private server browser.

lol what? You mean two clicks?

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>>377076153
>1 key could buy you like a hat or 2 at first
>can buy ~26 fucking hats at most with a key
WEW

>>377076618
I got 5-6k hours in Dota in two years, I'm pretty sure some people have 20k in TF2.

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>>377076465
>Even recently the when I had the urge to play I really had to hunt in the new UI to find where they hid the private server browser.

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>>377076796
>>377076618

>>377076796
I've seen people with 20k hours, Nemu bots.
b4nny from Froyotech has 10k I'm pretty sure, though.

>>377076465
>I really had to hunt in the new UI to find where they hid the private server browser
Valve are so innovative they made a retard filter.

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>>377076465
Are you illiterate???????

>>377076897
15k now >>377076895

>>377076695
>Yeah, and?
That breaking the rules of submitting an item should make the item not be able to be added to the game.
As listed on the TF2 site regarding submitting an item, http://www.teamfortress.com/workshop/, (which >>377074670 listed) states:
>Q: My item just got rejected. Why?
>A: Chances are that it didn't meet one, or several, or possibly all of the guidelines listed below:
Hell they even say:
>Remember: Except in specific no-go areas (obscenity or copyright infringement, for example), these are not hard and fast rules.
According to this, copyright infringement alone isn't allowed and it should not have been added, even if it didn't break any of the other 5.

>>377076097
Metal Gear Solid 3

>>377077190
>That breaking the rules of submitting an item should make the item not be able to be added to the game.
Why?

>>377077227
I don't want to play Spy only

>>377077227
I've never heard of someone with 3000 hours in MGS3. It doesn't have the same kind of replay value as TF2, as good as it is.

>>377076465
>HL2 playtesters.jpg

>>377054336
>>377054627
>>377054770
>>377058796
Keys inflated because of two reasons.
1. Metal is an infinite, free resource because people can always get weapons, and Metal rarely exits circulation because nobody ever crafts hats with it. This means that Metal is constantly falling in value.
2. The community market sells keys for slightly cheaper than the in-game price, meaning that you should always buy from the market. This means that new keys rarely go into circulation, and some people use keys to unbox, taking them out of circulation.

>>377060435
Buds were only used because of the limit on how many items you can put in a trade box. You needed something rarer than keys to use as currency to buy unusuals.
After the update that gave the game the current, infinite trade interface, buds dropped because they were only sought after to trade with.

>tf2 is dying
>tf2 has been shit since [update]
>hats lower the overall quality of tf2
>the existence of comp has made tf2 less enjoyable

>yet I can still hop onto a server and bonk someone with scout's bat, same as that first day all those years ago

Yeah, you guys are dramafags

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>>377078105

>>377051472
Because they've finally solidified a deal with Nintendo to port TF2 to the Switch

STOUT SHAKO
FOR TWO REFINED!

>>377078215
gross, don't even joke about that
360 and ps3 tf2 resoundingly showed us that console and arenalike fps don't mix

overwatch proved it further when they dumbed down the entire game's speed on both versions for consoles

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Guys, the Pyro update's still coming, right?
... right?

>>377078368
I can't remember where this originated from but it makes me laugh every time I see it.

>>377078329
What's wrong with the default HUD?

>>377078329
there is literally nothing wrong with default hud, huds in general are a meme done for e-peen, like tacticool weapon mods. Some of the best TF2 players use default all the time.

Having a custom hud does not make you play better

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I would actually play this game more if it wasn't OPTIMIZED LIKE ASS.

Overwatch and even fucking Total War Warhammer run way better than this shit.

>>377078446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIg3rygMAuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbV2aM0mSXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycanm-wlLbE

>>377078492
nothing, it's just e-peen. I tried a bunch of HUDs and the minimized stock HUD is way nicer looking than all of them, and there's little to no difference in performance.
The point of a HUD is to supposedly make the info pop out more while obscuring less stuff in your FOV, but I find that the bland white letters in midscreen don't do any better of a job than stock hud in lower screen, which is actually visible.
Also custom HUDs break every other time TF2 updates.
TLDR: custom HUDs are done by faggots for epeen to look like "pros"

>look at backpack for the first time in a year
>have pages full of crates worth almost a dollar each
Any reason to keep warbird cases or swissmas gifts?

>>377062760
>tfw started playing days after the Halo shitstorm so I could not get one.

>>377056610
I unironically supported paid mods and I think you are taking the valve cock a little too deep.

>>377077267
I'll list each rule to not break and why they should not be broken:
>Obscenity
Don't want a game to be filled with dumb shit that makes no fucking sense to be there other than to "push the limit" or to "offend people."
>Copyright infringement
Simple one. Don't want to get sued due to using the likeness of a copyrighted material and that would cost a shitton of time and money.
>Overall Tone
Is basically a lesser extreme version of obscenity but more on the style of the item rather than what it is, so like having extremely realistic hat or an extremely cartoony hat would look weird and out of place in TF2.
>Gameplay
To make sure the silhouette due to the cosmetic doesn't make the character difficult to identify, which the art direction for TF2 was basically "Even if the character was all black and no textures, due to the way they are made and look like they are easy to identify." Also to have hats not be red while on blue and not be blue while on red.
>Noisy Details
Keep shit simple and not be filled with little details and cause possible confusion on the item or pure distraction.
>Technical limitations
Don't want the hats to be slogging the game down to nearly unplayable levels for even people with pretty good rigs.

But valve has been lax on these possibly due to them wanting more cash, laziness, and also not giving a fuck cause they're so rich now they can buy their way out of anything.

>>377078446
From a screenshot of a Demoknight on Medieval Mode wielding a pan, wearing Dangeresque, Too?, and making a trade request. It circulated as a joke because of the "tf2 is a hat simulator" meme.
>>377078685
Use a config newfag. I get consistent 150FPS.
>playing overshit
Doesn't matter how silky smooth shit runs if it's still shit.

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>>377078329
>no more garm3n hud
Fuck that was a nice HUD.

>>377078492
it's ammo and health information is tiny and the damage numbers are small red text.
>>377078578
name 3 invite players that don't any use custom hud.

>>377078715
Oh the days of stupid Gmod videos

>>377078851
>But valve has been lax on these possibly due to them wanting more cash, laziness, and also not giving a fuck cause they're so rich now they can buy their way out of anything.
because nobody cares faggot. rules are there to make the game more fun. if a hat is fun and nobody has a problem with it (see Mario hat, which even you like) then it doesn't matter if the rules get broken since it's fun anyway. faggot.

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>>377078934
Screenshot in question.
Also, I think even at the time, the stout shake ws a craft hat/1.33 ref.

Which is the best hitsound?

>>377079090
Quake 3.

>>377079090
quake hitsound

>>377079090
crowbar hitsound from Half Life 1

>>377078994
There's one I've been looking for again for fucking ages, it was one someone made as a birthday gift for a friend, it had the demoman doing a bunch of retarded shit but there was a random Deus Ex segment and it nails the animation style of the original Deus Ex spot on.

it's been a real bitch trying to google it too

>>377079090
Tekken

>>377078492
My main issue with it is that it makes me feel uncomfortable while in spectate mode.

>>377078958
b4nny
shade
nursey
I never said they never use it, just that they don't need it 24/7 because it makes no big difference to gameplay and is almost purely cosmetic
RIP your argument

>>377079090
I forgot how much I miss changing my hitsound to stupid shit. Fork in the garbage disposal was always a classic.

>>377079090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVxKvKgO3X8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekrcYfJ8Di8&list=PLf27BHuLrQCaRTNelHCUrolDrdIjKQjvY&index=2

Question to 6s players: What map do you find the most enjoyable to play 6v6 matches on?

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>>377065941
>Moonbase is still unfished even after having the red base textured

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>>377079860
Vanguard definitely, all other answers are wrong.

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>>377050843
That'd be sad if I wasn't so damn tired of the game already. I hope Valve does TF3 before 2030.

>>377079860
Process is always fun as roamer/demo due to the rollouts you do, makes you feel slick as fuck when pulled off correctly.
I haven't played in a while so some of the new ones like reckoner or granary pro I haven't played on.

>>377050843
>TF2 updates.
>updates only 28 megs.
>eh small fix or more lootbox items.

you know its your own goddamn fault for expecting anything big out of a 28 megabyte update.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/12976215
http://www.strawpoll.me/12976215
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>>377081051
>comp 6vs6
not even gonna vote

>>377080167
just a heads up, reckoner is shit, the only thing about it that's unique (bridge) nobody likes. it's just a worse version of other good tf2 maps, with an ugly off-artstyle look that doesnt match tf2's 1960s theme.

>>377081274
that's the point dumbass

>>377078329
with my old hud it showed a dot in the center when I was doing damage like with pyro it'd show when I was still doing damage. now I don't have it. is there a way to get it back? I think I had toonhud before

moe like tfJEW lmao

>>377060938
triggered much? , lol

>>377062760
I missed the whole Halo fiasco, why were people so anally annihilated about some dumb hat?

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>>377052952
I was like you once, kept lying to myself that the game was still good. Then the Gun Mettle update released, and I finally reached my bullshit threshold. For your sake, I hope someday you will, too.

>>377079090
I had a Robotnik overhaul mod that changed everything to Robotnik quotes.
>WHY
>WHY
>WHYYYY

>>377084651
the only bullshit things in tf2 is melee and random crits

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Say my dream is to make a team-based shooter where every class has SOME form of advanced movement emchanic, even if it's a little thing like a machine gun with knockback that allows you to scale small walls, and the game is inspired by TF2, my alltime favorite multiplayer shooter.

How do you anons suggest I go about the idea of maybe adding some cosmetic items? I would never hope to add any that clash with the game's artstyle or character models, or paywall any of them. They'd just be a little extra bonus for the purpose of customizing your own character and looking nice, and something for you to find while playing and keep people a bit more interested in the game.

Should I add some sort of pseudo, small scale economy where you can trade items you don't want for items you do want? Should I implement them at all? What do you prefer, skins or modular cosmetics? Unlocks or drops? A wide variety or a smaller selection of really nice ones?

>>377084182
People who idled didn't get them

>>377084651
So again we are complaining about cosmetics and what isn't in the game but should be, completely ignoring the state of the game itself. It's like you want to drop the game, but you can't shit on gameplay, so you pick whatever you think would be accepted to shit on.

>>377085131
You want respect, you make them unlockables.
You want the game to be alive for some time longer, you make economy.

>>377085217
I DID drop the game. I uninstalled and sold off all my shit after I read that
>dead players would drop ammo boxes instead of being able to actually pick up weapons for metal/ammo
>players would have the ability to swap out weapons on the battlefield when they killed the same class
>there would be unfilterable in-game skins of the same quality as shit you find made by 11 year olds on the depths of FPSbanana
This sort of shit would have been inconceivable back in like 2010.

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I remember when they said that they would update MVM and add new shit fairly often.

It hurts.

>>377085131
Economy keeps the game technically alive for much longer. But the community will be filled with assholes who care more for the cosmetics than the game. Servers will be plagued with idlers and bots and players will be harassed by greedy shits for trade requests.

Do you want that?

>>377077359
Hikari MGS has to.

>>377086687
>they would update MVM
well I mean they did. It has 7 maps and heaps of scenarios now.

>>377087559
>Servers will be plagued with idlers
When did you quit, 2012? This isn't a thing.

>>377060989
Didn't they remove the browser at some point? Is it back then?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12976215
http://www.strawpoll.me/12976215
http://www.strawpoll.me/12976215

>>377079860
sunshine

>>377079073
>demopan was a symbol of how much TF2's style had diminished
Funny stuff. Oh how I wish that was still the case.

>>377079860
Process, merely because I was able to adequately memorize callouts there far before the other maps

>>377089640
definitely pro_cess

>>377089640
process

>>377076465
I didn't know you could play on community servers in CS:GO for a year

I eventually looked it up and found it

>>377054336

Jesus Christ i remember 2,33 refined for one key

Thank god i sold all my fucking items ( Vintage weapons and hats ) on the first day cashing in few douzen euros

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>>377074670
>we tend to avoid items that overtly obscure or confuse these silhouettes

>>377076465
This is your average "VALVE DESTROYED ARTSTYLE" fag.

>>377085206
Not true. One of my idling accounts did get it even though I was running Drunke F00l's idler on it.

>>377084651
>Thousands hats are okay
>weapon skins are not
No anon you are pretending it ruined it for you.
>>377085550
>UNFILTERABLE
Yeah 100% retard juice
dx9 disables them

>>377079860
Dustbowl. Oh wait, nobody remembers it was played in comp back in the day. Fuck, I'm old.

>>377056610
You can get pretty expensive skins like skins worth $1k+ if you're extreeeeeeeemely lucky with your weekly drops in CSGO

>>377051332
>*bling* *blong* wahow!

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>>377093147

*Clang* *Clang* Yeehaw!

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>>377050843
>the TF2 community

>>377093239
I wish Overwatch had characters as good as TF2.
Every game pales in comparison to even one of them.

Spy and Engineer were the best.

WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THIS SHITTY 10 YEAR OLD GAME

DON'T YOU NIGGERS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO PLAY ON YOUR MUSTARD MACHINES? OH RIGHT, ROFL.

>>377050843
That's funny. Will the orange box version get these so-called "cosmetic' updates? I don't believe I've heard tell of them on PS3.

>>377093526
Yeah I'm playing Solitaire, which consoles will never have.

>>377050843
>Sterling's Archer

d-danger zone

>>377093594
Anon, we are all on computers here. We all have Solitare...

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>>377093756
You're probably posting from your PS4 you gremlin.
Enjoy no solitaire or backgammon.

>>377060435
>Why did buds go down in price?

Russians duped so many they lost value

http://vocaroo.com/i/s12zCnhl14hZ

>>377089614
The browser was never removed at any point. You just select the Community Servers option and it opens the server browser, it's been like this since day 1 when Matchmaking was introduced.

People like you are why I believe the stories of Valve's retarded playtesters anon.

>>377078831
Sorry I forgot my [sarcasm] tags, I won't next time, pal.

>>377092358
I mean, that picture doesn't have confuwsed silhouettes at all. From the thumbnail I can instantly tell it's a Soldier.

>rainy day crate
>in less than a day SPUF gets demolished for good without any sort of notice for tenants to pack their shit
Pottery.

>>377061409
None of those are okay.

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>>377063261
>they're putting out balance patches like literally every week
I play OW as my "main game" now, that's not the case.
Balance patches come out between each season, which means that there's a rebalance every ~3 months. New characters come along with that. During those 3 months, best you can hope fore is a single map, or new cosmetics.

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Opened the new case, got strange down under duster (worth right right now ~23eu). I'm definitely gonna sell it while this price is this high.

>>377078329
I like ahud the most.

>>377095049
too bad cause it's status quo now

>>377078685
>Overwatch
No, it doesn't. I get an average of 250 fps in a normal game of TF2. In OW, I can only get an average of 70.
Biggest thing unoptimized about TF2 is the hitreg, honestly

>>377085131
There's a scale between the people that actually like playing your game not wanting cosmetics to be too out of control, and the players that would actually buy them wanting them to be insane. It's up to you where you land.
As for economy, sort of the same thing; people that like the game would enjoy a nice little trading system to get the items they think are best, the people that bring in the money will want an in game economy and ways to make money by selling pixels on a screen.

>>377078329
Improved default hud on minmode is really good, what the fuck is wrong with you plebeian?

>>377078685
I can run tf2 720p60 with vsync, meanwhile I can't even execute overwatch due to hardware lock

really fires my almonds faggot

>>377097495
In the 1st place why would you even play any game with vsync on? Do you like your additional input lag?

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>377097629
Read a book faggot, you're just spouting bullshit based on a googled plebbit thread.

Even if this is bait I will gladly reply.

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>>377051332

>He doesn't realize what this means
>Wear the Mario hat
>Use the Bumper Car taunt

LET'S PLAY SOME MARIO KART