Rising Storm 2 Thread

Hello darkness my old friend.

Even more casualized than RS1. Sounds are fucked. Shit game.

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I enjoyed RO2, and I enjoyed the beta for the most part.

my main issues:
>framerate was either good or cancer depending on the map
>everything was fucking grey and colorless
>helicopters were buggy but fun when they worked
>woodstock needs to be more woodstock
>no helicopters blasting ride of the valkyries or fortune son
>according to this game, punji traps jumpstarted the space program
>m14 can't shoot full auto
>customization and unlocks are a fucking joke

I feel like someone has stolen a child from me. I played for 20 hours over 3 days and even though it crashed on me at least once an hour I have nothing now. Why did they take it away from me?

>>377044603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4

What the fuck I just closed it to take a quick shit break, and now I come back and it's fucking gone. THEY CAN'T TAKE OUR PAST, IT WAS OURS GOD DAMMIT

>falling for the tripwire meme

>>377044571
>>m14 can't shoot full auto

my negro

It's over already? Well back to RS/RO2 I go.

Also Tripwire if you're reading this, a release date would be nice by this point.

Just wish arty strike didnt fuck my audio up

>>377044887
Putting money on it: It'll be released by the end of this month, or June

Supremely buggy, needs some optimization, fixes on lighting, sound fixes, and fixes on the movement options. Either loosen the TK penalty by maybe giving benefit spawn time to the deceased or make the teams a little easier to differentiate (I can't count the number of times I've been shot in the back on my own side of the map.) Mark friendly artillery strikes more clearly.

>impulsively bought it a few hours ago
>servers are now ded apparently
FUCK
When do I get to play again?

>>377044571

The M14 didn't always shoot full auto, making that thing shoot full auto ruined the fucking rifle

>>377045056
TK was a bitch.

>I was a transport pilot.
>flying my huey like a badass
>entire team spawns in
>RPG hits me
>get point reduction for tking
>wtf Tripwire?

>>377045067

In a couple of weeks at least. If they do what they said before this was the last closed beta, but there should be an open beta before release.

>>377045056
I think the marker that shows up when you see a friendly is too transparent, it should be brighter and maybe bigger. It's also buggy as fuck and doesn't show up unless you're aiming right at them, and sometimes it takes a few seconds.

>>377044571
>everything was fucking grey and colorless
?????

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4

I'd like some kind of expansion to the squad mode where if the leader has proportionally more spawns than other squads more slots will open up.

I don't think it would ever happen since Antimatter seems to want the Battlefield style squad system.

>>377044001
Not buying it, sorry.

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The Squadposter is right you know, RS2 does kinda suck compared to RO2/RS

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>only got to play 3 hours
>was the funnest 3 hours I've had with a game in years
>reignited the spark

>>377045162
M14 did shoot in full auto. It's true that most soldiers ended up soldiering the full auto off, you can get plenty of rounds off in full auto without fucking up the rifle.

>>377044001
fix mantling, trap placement, grenade sounds and memory leaks and it's a great game, hope they can make it for the release

>>377045635
Given they haven't even given a release date surely they can.. r-right bros?

also stop it from fucking crashing all the time on me REEEEE

>>377045553
They fucked up the cover system. Instead of improving it, they got rid of it completely.

So now, most of the time you're totally exposing yourself just to shoot instead of being somewhat in cover like RO2 or RS

>boot up game
>200 fps
>boot up game again
>60fps
>boot it up again...
>150fps
>one more time
>50fps

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>No anti aliasing in a first person shooter IN THE CURRENT YEAR, seriously why the fuck make a shooter where you absolutely need to see everything clearly and only have FXAA, fuck it makes me so mad
>Supremacy is the worst fucking gamemode ever made, no tactics or strategy, everyone just running around like it's Battlefield, and then when you die you have to run 3 minutes to get back to where you were
>several bugs from RO2 still present like glitchy bipod deployment and the sprint zoom bug makes me want to kill myself
>there's a massive memory leak, my game was using over 10gb RAM at one point
>grenade sounds are completely fucked, I just started ignoring them after a while which of course meant I sometimes died to grenades that I easily could have avoided
>large caliber rifles like the Mosin and M14 are really dodgy, I want to punch my dick off when I shoot a guy in the chest and he just runs away, these guns need to always be a one hit kill or there's no point picking them over the M16 and AKs
>needs a campaign gamemode like in RO2
>also fuck Supremacy
>seriously fuck Supremacy I hate it so god damn much

Other than that it's pretty good. Supremacy needs to die in a fire

>>377044001
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN

>>377045790
nobody used the cover system, crouching behind cover in 99% of cases lets you be more effective than sticking to it, you are easily outflanked, there is no reason to bring it back.

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>has important actions bound to a single key
>no way to separate them

>>377045821
>>Supremacy is the worst fucking gamemode ever made, no tactics or strategy, everyone just running around like it's Battlefield, and then when you die you have to run 3 minutes to get back to where you were
opinion disregarded. supremacy a best. song be a best.

Any reason why they phased out the M14 in the war for the M16?

It seems to make more sense to have a highly accurate and powerful battle rifle in a jungle instead of the spray and pray jack in a box that the M16 was.

>>377045582

I meant it ruined it as in full auto was a useless addition as it just wasn't made for that. It got tacked on

>>377045553
a little, i still njoyed it, but i wonder if when it final come out, it will have a hardcore mode with less hud and capped sprinting, i also hope they ad more voice clips and maybe up the moral damage when people die near you and shit

but im not sure if that will help, i think the issue is that the basic rifles are too good and im not sure how they fix that

>>377045790
cover system was shit and no one used it anyway

They need to get rid of the cyclic auto level on helicopters. It's a pain in the ass having to constantly drag and pick up my mouse just to keep the nose down.

as a commander I really don't like how big the spread on artillery is.

>>377046093
Don't use mouse controls, just use the keyboard and have freelook always on.

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>>377045982
Song Be or An Lao is best

Being a Transport Pilot is fucking fun!

>game disappears from "installed games" tab
>files are still on the HDD
What is this fuckery?

>>377045821
>needs a campaign gamemode like in RO2

Fuck no. I know it's going to happen, though. How can anyone prefer that stupid 90 second mapvote? It's such a fucking waste of time. I like playing the game, not waiting around in menus waiting for people to vote the same maps over and over again.

>>377046165
Song Be absolutely rapes my framerate though, it's the only map to do so.

>>377044001
It's a pretty good game overall. Performance is sorta annoying on some maps but it's fine for the most part. UI is also pretty fucked. Core gameplay feels great though.

>>377044571
>>everything was fucking grey and colorless
You can adjust that.

>>377045553
a lot better imo, RO2 maps were terrible.

>>377046093
Enable realistic flight model.

>>377046182
They do that between betas for whatever reason.

>>377046017
They realized you don't need a huge .308 round to kill someone and that a smaller caliber will do the job, also smaller ammo means you can carry a lot more.

>>377046182
So you don't have to reinstall the game when you buy it.

>>377046040
>capped sprinting
Nigga fuck no. I also heard there would be no "different" modes at all. Kinda agree with it, since that shit was one of the things that fucked RO2 at the start.

The UI and HUD is absolute cancer.

Few points you guys must bring up in survey to come.

>sound is fucked, it breaks a lot, no occlusion so it's hard to tell distance and context of gunshots, cannot tell between someone firing at you or in opposite direction. Overall poor sound design.

>suppression is fucked, litteraly suppressed all the time regardless if you're in structure or underground, your screen stays blurred and grey most of the game.

>Scoreboard suck ass, you can't use right click to mute, votekick or check profile. Even Source games can manage that...

>They fucked with the ADS mechanics, you get super zoom all the time in place of RO2 slight zoom while ADS and big zoom while holding breath. That's just bad and going against what we have on RO2/Squad/Insurgency and Arma3 for some reason.

>game doesn't have body awareness but still I keep shooting at window frames or what not while aiming down sight. There is no reason for that at all, it's just annoying.

>bipod is buggy as well, it teleports you, get you stuck in place and just not worth the risk.

>post processing suck ass, no hbao+, only fxaa... ew..

>in this day and age, Tripwire still refuses to put numerical hints on sliders or let you unbind keys


What did I forget?

>>377044571
frame-rate pooped in random areas for me too. Ranges were from 30-130 depending on location so I don't think it was entirely my computer

>>377046017
cheaper, easier to shoot for long periods of time, easier to shoot, less complicated, lighter, easier to carry a lot of ammo, and is useful to use.

>>377046135
as a player I don't like it either, I was in a building 100 meters away from the friendly artillery and still got blown up by it.

>>377046017
According to my neighbor

>M14 is fucking heavy
>you can carry way more M16 mags than M14 mags
>M16 is actually controllable in full-auto
>M16 is easier and cheaper to make

>>377046226
Hue City for some reason kills my FPS surprisingly

>>377046424
It's like every barrage is the naval/rocket barrage and you need EVERYONE in a 100m radius to stay in cover. At least you don't get kicked for teamkilling for killing like 3 people.

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>>377046202
I just alt tab. I love the campaign, I love playing for hours and finally winning. I don't mind having a 90 second breather after playing a 40 minute Bridges match.

>>377046017
Fire superiority is key to surviving ambushes and giving every rifleman a full-auto rifle helps with that dramatically. Plus what every other anon has already said.

>FOV is low as fuck
>only goes up to 106
>100 and fucking 6
>guns are still fuckhuge and feels clausterphobic
>still can't see

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>no unlockable Green Berets
RRREEEEEEEEEEE

>>377046436
>>377046436
>muricans not being strong enough to carry M14s

Wot, if I'm sitting in a jungle scanning for gooks I want the most accurate and powerful rifle there is. The tactics of just spray and praying at muzzle flares in the bush barely worked.

>>377046424
Not to mention getting burned by Napalm EVEN THOUGH the fire was out.

>>377046017

Some military officials thought that way so much, they tried to sabotage the M16 Army tests and also got a bunch of soldiers killed for dumb reasons like switching gun powder without telling, not issuing repair kits because muh gun of the future and dumping anti corrosion treatment on barrels.

>>377046697
Probably horizontal field of view, not the usual vertical.
Otherwise it seems fucky yeah

Does NA still play RO2?

>>377046740
A .308 round isn't anymore accurate than 5.56. If anything 5.56 is more accurate than .308.

>>377046017
During WWII they noticed most soldiers never actually engaged the enemy at ranges where a full power rifle round was necessary. The M14 and 7.62mm NATO was only really a thing because the Army stuck to the old ways and Springfield Armory basically lied and said Garand factories could produce M14s with little change in tooling.

>>377046697
>>377046798

No.

The fov setting works as you would expect. It's just that it doesn't affect the weapon model fov in the game.

So although you see wider, the gun remains the same size. So with high fov it feels like being a midget holding a giant gun.

>>377045816

this. what the fuck is with that shit random framerate everytime I play and I have a 1080ti

>bring back the squadleader as an actual role. Retards are constantly being set as leaders with no idea of how to play
>Increase damage of the Mosin
>Completely rework the sound. its a complete shambles, with sounds coming from completely the wrong directions.
>Re-add the blackout mechanic. I never once saw it in the hours I played this weekend. It would make more sense in this game than ro2/rs anyways, so I can spray m16 bullets as my life fades away
>Add an online campaign mode, this was the best part of the previous games


Personally I enjoy supremacy. It suits the game well, in being fast paced. It's a lot of fun getting a good squad together and running to a point with eachother whilst your team attack elsewhere.

>>377046736

>no unlockable gook ear necklaces

I thought the sawed-off shotgun was going to be a useless novelty but it's actually really good at close range. You can run fast as fuck, patterns wide but not overly so and you can bring it up to shoulder level really quick

>>377046740
Try carrying a 12 pound weapon vs a 7 pound that has similar performances

>>377046157
Is there even an option to use keys for pitch? Either way using keys only sucks, they need to just fix the mouse controls. If other games can do it they can do it too.

>>377046232
Advanced flight model only gets rid of the auto-collective, it doesn't change the cyclic auto-leveling.
To be specific the problem is that the helicopters are constantly trying to level their pitch to 0 degrees. So if you want to pitch up or down, you have to constantly drag and pick up the mouse. If you stop dragging it the helicopter starts leveling out immediately.
They don't seem to try to level the yaw or roll very much, but they definitely try to auto level the pitch.

Also the helicopters seem to jitter a lot in online play, yet move smoothly in the offline practice range.

>>377046335

Yeah, what a shame.

KF and RO, had great UI and HUD. But only because it was all built-in in the Unreal Engine 2.

Since they switched to Unreal Engine 3, it's been utter amateur garbage on their part.

Didn't have a chance to play yet, are there any maps that aren't a generic tropical jungle full of riceniggers and huts?

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>>377046973
Still 99% sure it's horizontal fov.
If it were vertical fov at 106 degrees it would look more like pic related

>>377047107
I think key controls are more precise, if I use a mouse I end up doing barrel rolls and crashing into shit.
The controls for the vehicles are in a different area in the menu, and you can bind the pitch and yaw to different keys.

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>>377047007
I fucking hate the blackout mechanic, the way I see it I'm dead anyway so stop wasting my time and just send me to the spawn queue

>>377047007
Yeah, but you went from having 3 to 4 SLs to like 8

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>>377044859
this. after KF2 i have low expectations.

>>377045821
>>Supremacy is the worst fucking gamemode
Stopped reading there. Kill yourself and go back to Bridges or Hue City you fucking Battlefield-Metro-Shitter.

>>377046905
yea 3 or 4 servers are usually full

>>377046232
>RO2 maps were terrible.
Red Orchestra 2 has the worst selection of maps in any FPS I know. At best, they're mediocre, and at worst... I don't even know how a person designs maps like Grain Elevator and Cold Steel, let alone play them.

It really sucks, that war is a really interesting setting and I'd love to get a decent game with similar mechanics, but Tripwire's godawful map design just killed it for me.

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>tfw you run around as a pointman/scout shooting people in the dick

>>377046984
reinstall windows

>>377047302
reinstalling

>>377044859
>>377047279
Tripwire is just publishing RS2. It's being developed by that other dev team (the one that made RS1)

>>377047007
Eh, you become SL if you create a squad. Just tell people to fuck off creating squads if they don't know how to SL. I like that it's separate from the roles. Now you can pick the right role for the right situation.

>>377047325
Antimatter has way better map design. Some of the maps from Rising Storm are leagues better than RO2, the rest are just average.

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>that Vietnamese VA
>that soundtrack
fucking abysmal.

>>377047172

Isn't horizontal fov how it's always been. Vertical is more like the exception.

Most games I put 95° horizontal fov.

>>377047470
WHEY AH TALKING ECKWOAH

this is fucking bullshit i jusr wanna play reeeeee

>>377047470
We haf loss Foxtroy

>>377047470
>>that Vietnamese VA
It's ridiculous but honestly being around Vietnamese people who can barely speak english it's not THAT far off.

>>377047507
afaik you generally set the vertical field of view and derive horizontal fov accordingly, as screen width varies much more widely than height.

>>377047460
Yeah, Hanto sucks ass but all the other RS maps are leagues ahead of anything in RO2.

>>377047331
The shotty is pure sex.

Wish they gave something more to being in a Squad than just having somewhere to spawn.

Like kits only available if you're in a squad.

Right now I try to kick people who do garbage from my Squad but nothing is stopping them from coming back and it's not punishing at all since they keep whatever kit they have next time they spawn.

>>377047670
It's just that they can't act and the delivery is stiff, they sound like they're just reading the lines.

>>377044001
Do I got back to RO2 or RS? I haven't played either in years, but they're both probably dead.

Why the hell doesn't anyone curse in this game?

For a Vietnam game, this seems PG at best

>>377047851
There was this guy named "wojak" in one of the servers. He would stop spouting memes, yelling, and cursing.

>>377047851
No cursing in my christian game

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I've got some gripes but my main-biggest is the maps. God the maps suck, except Hue but only if you're the defender. The giantass hill map was probably the worst war shooter map I've played on in a long time.

>>377047827
Nope. Still strong

>>377047912
>wouldn't*

>>377047942
>6 full servers
>strong

>>377047916
Think I'm missing the reference

>>377047007

>blackout mechanic

Yeah, no. That shit was trash.

What they need to re-add is the ADS behaviour on RO2. That tunnel vision everytime I aim in RS2 is really a pain in the butt, while every other tactical shooter has minimal or no zoom until you hit the key to focus your vision.

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>>377047325
>Grain Elevator

It was based off a real place as were several other maps. And I disagree on their shittiness, even the "worst" maps were good if attackers weren't shit eating retards and actually used smoke and worked together.

>>377048041
John Gibson - "it wasn’t until we shipped Red Orchestra 2 that I really started embracing my faith. I really started to say “Hey, I don’t want to just call myself a Christian. I want to live it.” That really started to then impact my game design and development.

>>377047851
Sometimes (also in RO2/RS) I play on a server with normal people throwing bants around and it's fun as fuck.
Then you go play on the NO FUN ALLOWED 40-1 or german servers and you get banned for ANY kind of bants because those SJW faggots get triggered over everything. And germans are get anally annihilated over any sort of reference to nazis.

Shooting isn't very challenging at all even at long ranges, I don't know if it's huge hit-boxes or weapons (AK) are just super accurate, virtually no bullet drop, adjustable sights are pointless as of now, then again anything past RO1 they always were

>>377048150
Uh oh....

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>>377044001
I have 1.5k in RO2. Been playing it almost every evening, easily a top 50 player.

RS2 is really good already. Minor tweaks and some polishment and it will be a sincere and excellent sucessor.

>>377047851
It's better than RS1. I've heard the GIs say shit, damn, son of a bitch, bitch, and I swear 'fuck' once.

>running to objective
>screen goes black suddenly
>no sounds
>apparently I got shot

Seemed more like a bug with how sudden it was, but I guess they were going for something realistic.

Cover system is crap, weapon usually doesn't pop over the top of cover so you have to stand up like a retard exposing yourself

>>377046226
Confirmed lies , my hd7970 3gb with i5 25k plays at 1080p maxed

>>377048329
And the leaning barely does shit too.

>>377048321
You get a black screen if you get shot in the head, Sorpanos style.

>>377045056
>being unable to identify a godless gook from an american

>>377048329
Literally what I said

Instead of fixing or improving the cover system, they ended up getting rid of it entirely which is a damn shame

>>377048150
John Gibson...So thats why KF2 is such a fucking mess. That's why all the guns sound like shit. One loser messes up the entire team.

It feels like they need to clean up the graphics, looking at the game hurts my eyes because of so much shit going on and all the jaggies.

>>377048405
>And the leaning barely does shit too.

God it's awful, just awful, there are no other words

>>377048146
Just because it's historically accurate or whatnot doesn't mean you have to make almost every map a blocky counterintuitive pile of shit.

>>377048150
Anyone who worked on RO2 and thought it was acceptable at launch doesn't deserve God's forgiveness

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>>377047851
Did you play at all this beta wave because they curse a lot now?

I got closed beta for free. It's like RO2 with a Vietnam skin but lacking any real feeling. BF Vietnam and even BC2 Vietnam had more of an atmosphere in my opinion. It feels thin, skinny or otherwise lacking something special.

>>377048534
It's because none of the actions have a good response from when you push the button, and the animations are jank as fuck with you clipping into shit and getting stuck.

>>377046383
You can atleast unbind keys

>>377048278

>easily a top 50 player

That's about the daily population.

Anyway 14/88 achievements?

I only got 100h on RO2/RS, and got 41.

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>>377047470
DELTA IS BEING ATTACK

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>shoot a guy in the hip with mosin
>he runs to cover like nothing happened and i get sprayed down by automatic gunfire

Aside from that and some random crashes/ fps drops i really liked it, put over 20 hours into it. MAT-49 and IZH-43 were so much fun to use. As for the maps hue city was probably my favorite, cu chi was alright and hill was sorta okay I guess. I'm still pretty torn on whether I like the supremacy maps or not

Honestly really liked it. Shotguns are really good too which is a nice change. Although a couple of the maps are literally shit tier. I also hope there's more and better maps thru didn't show us and night time ones.

>running in a tunnel 10 feet underground
>tunnel is bright as fucking day
>still take explosive damage from grenades/M79 while in the tunnel
>shit hit reg
>grenade clink can be anything from a mile away to right next to you
Epin. Other than that its pretty fun.

>>377044001
>spray into foliage
>hear that 'tink'
feels good

Id like them to add an ausfag army down the line

>>377046984
>having issues
Kek
I've got a 4 year old PC and Max it out at constant 60fps at 1440p.

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>>377047851
>DIE YOU FUCKING GOOK
it's enough.

>>377048694
>That's about the daily population.
idk man, right now trying to join my favourite server (the 40-1s) and I am waiting 5 minutes already.

You gotta go for the right servers where the people are actually gud.

>>377048562
>counterintuitive pile of shit.

How were they counter intuitive? Every map had routes and cover. The courtyard on grain elevator could be smoked and crossed at several points. The defenders could rush the beginning points just as fast as the attackers. Instead every retard just sat there at the start and let attacks take the initial points on grain elevator then all the retards on attackers dont throw smoke and get gunned down endlessly in the courtyard. It wasnt the maps fault, it was people not understanding the most basic strategies and camping where they werent supposed to. Like when the capture points get to C D E, all the defenders just camp the top floor and attempt to play sniper wars out the windows instead of going down stairs.

fucking raged so many times at useless teams, not the maps though. Now I get to rage all over again at RS2.

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Fill the survey bic bois

http://rs2vietnam.com/survey/

>>377048931
specs?

>>377048448

As qirky as RO2s cover system was it did have some great uses when you needed it, it was nice to have to option of either using it or not, instead it was practically stripped right out, blindfireing would be fun to bring back, I kinda enjoyed doing that when immeresed.

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>>377048278
>14/88 achievements

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Was the Mosin supposed to feel like the worst gun in the game or was I doing something wrong?

>>377044001
worth buying guys? I played RO to death and a bit of RS

refunded

>>377048562
>acceptable at launch doesn't deserve God's forgiveness

Remember the "too many bricks/assets" in the maps so they had to re-cook them, I think Pavlovs was a big offender of that

didn't get to use the m60 as much as i wanted to and when i did the broken ass bipod fucked me over many times

>>377049258
I'd play the beta before buying but in my opinion - totally worth buying.

>>377049246
It was in the last game, that should tell you all you need to know.

this or Squad?
wich one has the better roleplay?

>>377049258
Open beta before release

>>377046740
the m14 isn't more accurate than the m16 you dumb shit

>>377049501
RS2 is more immersive but Squad is probably better for larping.

>>377048652
>It's because none of the actions have a good response from when you push the button

Pretty much, with RO1 you could understand its quirks as a mod etc, but it's 2017 now and nothing about the leaning system has changed/improved in over 10 years, it boggles the mind

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>>377049501
Squad.

>>377047163

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This, Arma, Insurgency or Squad?

>>377049763
RS2 > Insurgency > Squad > Arma

>>377045982
people don't know how to play the game mode. you need ppl to stay and guard objectives once capped, but no one ever does that. not a bad mode in principle.

>>377049501
Squad is full of homos that will gladly engage in erotic roleplay with you.
Stay the fuck off my rice fields.

>>377049763
Autism simulator
Halfway point between CS and Ro2
No opinion

Just get this

>>377044001
I enjoyed it
baikal 43 and dp28 are my fav weapons now
The Cobra is rightfully devastating but I could tell people were getting frustrated using the huey.

Didn't have framerate issues personally, but peeking with sights from behind cover is janky sometimes, mainly with shots hitting your cover instead. Also, mantling is janky as well sometimes - why do i have to climb over steps that are barely over ankle height in Hue? Night maps or something with low light is definitely needed too.

>>377045790
ro2/rs1 cover system was shit and a semi-competent rifleman would have no problem pixelshooting the part of the body that is guaranteed to be exposed. I always end up just going prone or backing off from the cover and going full crouch.

>>377049763
>Arma if you've got a group of people to play it with
>Squad if you like to LARP
>Insurgency if you want a more casual game
>RS2 if you want the best game 3 years from now

Honestly I didn't find it fun.

Bad graphics too, surprisingly.

I wish Grunts would have a few more weapon choices, I can never get in fast enough for most of the other classes and can see me getting bored with the current grunt weapons.

But in juxtaposition with RO1/2 I chose to go rifleman/grunt as it was fun and challenging to use rifles, with RS2s automitics it's just not involving nor interesting

>>377049950
Autism simulator for Arma and so on* Formatted that badly.

>>377045393
I wish mongols like you would take a look at the options menu before giving feedback.
Seriously fucking kill yourself.

>>377046932
this. typical engagement ranges were <100m

>buyfags

Every gaming review site had 5000 keys to give away. I literally made a fake email, a fake twitch and followed GameStop and got my key in 10 minutes, 4 days into the open beta, yesterday.

Wew lads, there must of been thousands of unused keys floating around

Is this game a teamkill simulator like its predecessor?
sorry

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>>377049816
RS/RO2 > Squad = RS2 >>> power gap >>> Insurgency

Arma can't be compared directly, but there is nothing redeeming about a "tactical shooter" that runs on the source engine with cod sized maps except that it is cheap during steam sales.

Maybe Insurgency: Sandstorm will be good

>>377049972
>having to use a microphone=larp
kys

>>377044571
>>m14 can't shoot full auto
That's a bonus. Talk to any Vietnam vet about the M14's full auto and they'll tell you it was fucking useless. Pull the trigger and 5 rounds later your rifle is vertical.

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>>377049070

It's the exact same they did last time?

That shit was just painful to fill up. can't they just ask what we like and what we don't?...

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>AK 47 takes needs up to 3-4 shots to kill someone
>M16 onehit kills in the chest

>>377050256
T. Ass blasted shitter who gets wiped first run insurgency everytimd

Passengers of the Huey should be able to fire thier guns upon the enemy, I want to see magazines being tapped on helmets prior to insertion god dammit

>>377050387
that's the opposite tough
but the m16 is totally playable in full auto so 3-4short burst usually kill

>>377050263
>Delta delta niner two five, this is birdbear requesting thunder poof on grid h6

>>377046383
hbao isn't a form of AA.

>>377047325
>RO2 sucks
Yes indeed it does. RS2:Vietnam (son). Gonna rice cripsty the fuck out of you camping gook bastard.

>>377050567
You are full of shit.

>>377046740
It's not about the rifle, you dumbshit. It's about the weight of the ammo. And you can carry a lot more 5.56 ammo than you can 7.62 ammo in the same amount of weight.

>lol get /fit/ merrilards just carry more 7.62 haha
Easy enough for you to say now. Try carrying it on your shoulders for days on end on patrol. And that consideration is one of the reasons they changed it.

game is fun but needs compass. cant ever point out an enemy because there's no bearings

>>377050129
I looked all through and it and didn't see shit, probably because its one giant clusterfuck of a UI with various things in different menus.

>>377050367
>That shit was just painful to fill up. can't they just ask what we like and what we don't?...

Fucking this, multichoice questions, it'll just go into a computer and it'll popout the most clicked on option/s.

I didn't get to say what I wanted, lets just hope they keep good tabs on reading forums etc

>>377049501

Dunno mate. If you like Insurgency more than you like playing tactical on Arma3. Then RS2 is better.

Problem with Squad is that, for one it doesn't look good for a Unreal Engine IV game, it also runs worst than Arma3. Chances that most of your games will be ruined by people who either dont' roleplay, don't talk and don't play for the team or you'll find yourself in a tyranical squad with an armchair warrior that'll treat you like trash.

Sometimes on Squad you'll find a great squad of people that actually play the game, and if you're lucky and there are other good squads then you won't be stuck doing logistics the whole game.

I give Squad a chance every new update. Most of the time I just leave fealing like I got nothing out of it, not even the slightest bit of fun.

>>377050242
yes

>TL has no mic and nobody reads his arty warning, team gets fucked on last cap on defense with 0 tickets left
>decide to be hardcore and go shirtless with bandages and a ushanka, get lit up by teammate repeatedly because he's only used to seeing shirtless burgers

>>377050256
>Maybe Insurgency: Sandstorm will be good
didn't even know this was coming

>competitive shit
>made for consoles
top lel. it's dead

the only good thing is that it's not using the source engine anymore so that means actual ballistics

>>377050734
Try living on a bowl of rice for a month GI

>>377046736
>what is the Tiger Stripe Boonie

they didn't actually wear the beret on patrol anon. They had other hats that signified the same thing. Tiger stripe was mostly a Special Forces camo pattern during Vietnam.

>>377050256
You are aware that insurg sandstorm is going to feature a single player campaign that has you playing as something like a Kurdish woman fighting isis themselves? Who breaks away from her fellow Kurdish fighters to go on a personal one woman army?

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>>377050425
I'm not wrong though, Insurgency is a really casual game with tiny ass maps, just because it's TTK is low doesn't make it a tactical shooter and it sure as fuck should not be compared to Red Orchestra 2 or Squad

They are adding ballistics, larger maps and vehicles in Insurgency: Sandstorm so maybe it will be good, but stop with the fucking Insurgency meme. It's just a step above counterstrike with iron sights.

>>377049763

If you mostly play alone, Insurgency or RS2.

Insurgency was sold one buck a while ago though, no excuse not to have it.

Being promoted to squad leader as VC should only do it upon respawn.

Nothing worse than being in a good postion etc, only to be promoted or with no fucking pickaxe or binocs

>>377050870
Christ, I played the original Ro2 with no mic but didn't dare even touching SL. That said I meant the other way around, I kept accidentally killing teammates trying to flank or get disoriented and fire at a teammate who was camped where he should have been

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>pre-order game
>Ask devs why they used UE3 instead of UE4
>get banned 1 month for trolling

And they expect me not to instantly refund their shit? Fuck Tripwire.

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>>377050963
They didn't wear cavalry hats on the field either but you can unlock one.

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>>377050989
Sounds about 1000% more interesting than any other modern military shooter campaign in the last two decades, nothing wrong with that.

>>377051090
What did you post word for word, we all know this wasn't just asking an innocent question

>>377050867
>I give Squad a chance every new update. Most of the time I just leave fealing like I got nothing out of it, not even the slightest bit of fun.
Exact same for me, I ended up uninstalling it after the last update and telling myself I won't play it again until the full release. My main problem is that the game is too reliant on the squad leader for it to be enjoyable, nearly every time I joined a squad the leader either doesn't communicate or lonewolfs or both. The few times I got a good squad leader it was fun but it's far too inconsistent and I feel like I waste my time every time I come back to the game.

>>377051001
Yeah so games like rainbow six gold and shit are casual because muh tiny maps, meanwhile your sprint and 360 no scope ro Vietnam is hardcorez

>>377046383
hum i get the big zoom with holding breath with the DP

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>>377049070
Filling it out now.

>>377051056
>sitting on last point before shifting further
>killing off GI's left and right
>being overrun slowly
>having the most epic standoff
>promoted to TL
>keep fighting and and try to let people spawn in
>finally die
>"tfw your squadleader doesn't place tunnels"
great game

>>377050589

I said post processing, numb nut.

>>377051204
stuff like rainbow six raven shield or swat 4 sure are tactical shooters, but Insurgency has a significantly faster pacing than what you named, atleast in my experience.

>>377051001
stop talking out your ass, there's no difference between CQB in Insurgency and huehue city, and Push is the same objective style as RO2 but on a smaller scale. Comparing Insurgency to Counter Strike is fucking retarded and shows you haven't played either of them very much.

>>377051124
That's a Apocalypse Now reference, though. That's the reason it's a level 99 unlock.

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>>377051160
heres the post they banned me for

>>377051001
>I'm not wrong

haha

>>377051090
People have been asking that since the start and it has been answered to death you faggot.

>>377051371
so going against realism is okay ONLY if it's a specific movie reference?

>>377051156
Is call you a faggot but you missed the point entirely. There's a single player campaign. In insurgency. It's a fucking multiplayer focused game. It's gonna be a shit "cinematic experience" to sell on the side of the actual reason people actually play insurgency. It's basically "okay remember how polished and how much effort we put into adding new content and the likes onto multiplayer? Well instead we spent that time on having a dramatic story you'll play once because it unlocks a fucking hat for multiplayer"

>>377051405
rip

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>>377050989
>standard FPS campaign idea (one person army)
>added irony of a woman kicking ISIS' shit in for maximum humiliation
>this is somehow a bad thing and totally out of the ordinary from other shooters

>>377051405

that's what you get for being a kraut.

>>377051405
Oh, a Kraut. I'm in Berlin right now, can you explain to me why everybody is smoking while riding bicycles?
>auch dgw ich nicht gut deutsch spreche

Anyway "even" makes the post a bit aggressive and insulting and I could see why they'd ban you, but that's still REALLY overreacting on their side. Devil's advocate and such

I'm going to watch predator for the first time
Just wanted to let you know

>>377051405
>steam moderators
They do it for (((free))).

>>377051719
I'll be doing the same in a few hours. Have fun anon.

>>377051530
Just saying there was a reason for it to be included. While having an actual beret would be pretty cool, wearing a tiger stripe boonie meant the exact same thing. If you ever saw a dude wearing one you knew he was a motherfucker you didn't fuck with.

>>377051405
you forgot "^^"
your post was obviously mean.

>>377049501
Squad
I once had a squadmate who started every question he asked with "Uh, Interrogative"

>>377044571
>>no helicopters blasting ride of the valkyries or fortune son
preorder cancelled

>>377051817
Ahh. Kinda dumb that it's preorder exclusive, though.

>>377051090
>>377051405
the Steam discussion forums are always like this no matter the game, you will always get warned/banned for posting anything that isn't a question or discussion of the game mechanics. Anything that might incite shitflinging will get you banned no matter what.

>>377051514
KYS Yoshiro

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>>377051405

Got banned from the Days of War steam discussions as well. Didn't even say anything out of line and offered plenty feedbacks on the side.

Got banned for slander.

Left bad review, asked for refund, down voted all the good reviews, upvoted all the negative ones, actually spent time trashing their game everywhere.

I stopped once they got the mostly negative overall user reviews.

Punk ass moderators.

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>mfw the Grease Gun is in the game
>but not the Thompson
>or BAR

I really hope they add ARVN maps eventually.

>>377046017

W I Z K I D S

>crawl or couch and move around
>follow teammates and don't move out into the open unless i absolutely have to
>never end up seeing opposition or even muzzle flashes from anywhere i can actually look around
>get killed by friendly fire or someone i will never find

how do i get better at this game honestly

>>377046017
>get ambushed
>have time to aim accurately
you are fucking stupid, go kill yourself

>>377044571
the army actually made the m14 semi auto because so many soldiers used it in full auto and couldnt control it and telling them not to use full auto didnt work so they intervened manually

>>377051964
>Days of War
It looks like trash anyway

>>377052035
>get between the enemy spawn and whatever flag they're trying to capture
>wait
>shoot a bunch of guys
>die
>repeat

Loved RO2/RS1. Game got dull in 3 hours. Refunded :( goddamn I wanted to like this game so much but I just wasn't having fun

>>377051964
>I'm kind of *cough* a big deal on Steam's social network
Dude I hate to say this but you're way more pathetic than someone who shitposts on /v/ all day.

>>377052035
>>get killed by friendly fire or someone i will never find
The first rule of Red Orchestra, if you have a good position you will get teamkilled.

>>377052035
You can push sometimes, just don't play it like call of duty. This sounds awful, but it plays like an action stealth game.

Refund!

>>377051924
Honestly, that makes sense. If you want to limit the number of people kitting themselves out like a Green Beret instead of the regular grunts, putting it as a preorder exclusive's the way to do it.

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>>377051405

Got banned during the fourth wave because I TK'd one of the moderators twice in the game.

Dude fucking global banned my account.

I bitched on the forums so he had to unban me, but prick mess it up so I couldn't join servers the whole weekend anyway because of server list synchronisation bullshit.


So guys, beware. Dont' shoot Tripwire moderators and say sorry three times.

>>377052232
playing it like cod actually makes the game enjoyable for me, when i try to stealth around and actually not rush into firefights i spend 10 minutes slowly moving around finding no one before getting offed by someone somewhere i had no idea about

>M16 can be fired full auto with the accuracy of a fully stabilized weapon system
>Fire AK 4 shots in a row and pointing in the sky

>Impossible to tell if a grenade lands infront of you or across the map

>FUCKING HUEGE GUN MODELS
>AK has two different sounds depending if you fire full auto or semi, obvious different quality recordings
>Cannot direct impact with M79
>Almost no swearing because TWI president is a gud christian boi
>Can't control where the napalm lands or arty dispersion like World in Conflict, so you always teamfrag, everytime
>Squad leaders are 85% retards that dont place marks or build tunnels
>guns sound like airsoft, fucking weak and flat
>RPD and M60 can overheat, but theres no barrelswapping
>Bullet cracks are non-existent
>No radio/music played in the USA bases, like in BFV
>pungi traps are broken, will rarely be emplaced
>radioman is kinda useless because they never stick by the commander
>Vietnamese English VA sounds half-retarded

>>377047470
agree on that one
They speak way too fucking slow, sound like Forest Gump talking
It's not like they are looking for North Vietnamese to voice act, there should be plenty of people to work with

>>377051964
>>377052328
samefag

>>377052365
Oh yeah, I sprint around too, but I don't rush into open fields and shit, I just skirt around the edges while hauling ass to where I need to go.

>>377052157

LoL, I'm not saying I had an impact. But it was satisfying. Anyway I was shit posting on /v/ the whole time dumbo.

But hey, gimme dem tears.

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>>377051186
Join either mublerines, RIP or another server with admins enforcing Squadleader microphone rules, you will much more fun playing on those.

Generally the longer the queue, the better the moderation is, so waiting to join those full servers is usually worth it.

>>377051964
>>377052328
Go back to /reddit/

>>377052035
>friendly fire
Kill your friends before they kill you.

>>377052546

That webm is before the last update right? Cause now that heavy AT falls like a sack of shit after 50 feet.

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>>377052603
>obvious admin abuse but tripwire, one of the most cancerous devs in existance
>"g-go back to l le le eddit :D"

you shills are the worst

>>377045790
the cover system was complete shit
they removed it because modders were forced to have cover nodes on their maps and it was an incredible nuisance to implement for each and every map, and since no one ever used it, might as well remove it. Makes making maps easier and saves time.

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>>377052734
Yea, both HEAT and Tandem rounds drop much faster and move more slowly now, their velocity before the last update was way to high.

>>377052603

Summer is sure getting close.

Don't hit urself on the door while getting the fuck out child.

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>>377052754
Tripwire isn't even making the game you retard.

>>377052754
Nevermind, go back to /pol/

>>377051983

Yeah even the ancient Vietcong game had a good amount off WW2 Soviet and American weapons.

The current choice of weapons is gonna get stale fast for grunts considering the classes get taken in no time leaving most people with the same weapon time and time again

>>377051983
ANZAC maps sound like they will be DLC apparently.

>>377052851
>
retard

>>377052734
Yes.

>>377045790
The cover system in RO2 is literally never better to use than just crouching behind cover

It's slower and exposes you more, it's worthless

>>377052195
>if you have a good position you will get teamkilled.

That's the truth.

Also with the new costume varients, many of the VC ones can look like the US, so I tend to just use a standard VC outfit so my teammates can Identify me easilly.

>have 64 player serves
>only 2-4 people at a time can be a special class

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>>377052889
cheer up anon

Terrible UI, the gun takes up too much screen space, the graphics look dated in most areas and the AA is terrible. Everything else is fantastic.

>>377052881
Not just ANZAC, the army of South Vietnam.

>>377052878
Hey, at least they all have access to fully automatic weapons. In RO2 most people were stuck with bolt actions.

>>377053057

The peeking over the cover part of its cover system is better than RS2's though

>>377053087
this

only got to be MG like three or four times

>>377044571
>>m14 can't shoot full auto

most of M14s in Vietnam couldn't shoot full auto, it was permanently disabled

>>377053057
i was good for peaking over certain objects, not shooting. Because you could go in cover, press forward and your guy would look up without sticking the gun over. It exposed less than peaking normally. But it was pretty rare and even rarer to effectively use blindfire, but it sure was satisfying as fuck getting a blindfire kill.

>>377044001
It never crashed once for me and my computer is mid-tier. It was fucking fun though

>>377053292
I actually forgot the blindfire existed, I'll give it points for that, even if it's rarely useful

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>that guy that installed the game on his ssd and takes marksman every round

>>377045790
i didnt know ppl even used the cover system in ro2. i didnt even notice they removed it.

>>377053209
>the army of south vietnam

You mean the reinforcements?

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I've been playing since the third or fourth beta wave. I'm upset that they still haven't fixed weapon collision which results in you shooting into cover rather than over it. If it launches with that still being a thing I'm going to refund.

>>377053209
>In RO2 most people were stuck with bolt actions.

But bolt actions are fun to use, challenging and satisfying.

I would 80% of the time choose bolt-rifleman because it is a fun challenging class, with automatics most of that satisfaction is gone 2bh

>>377047470
THEY ARR TAYKING CHUN LI

>>377053209
I loved the bolt actions in RO2/RS. They're the first weapons I leveled because being a rifleman is such stress-free fun.

>>377051983
they really didn't add enough weapons to the game

It's tjhe small things but soldiers should have little puffs of dust they kick up when running on dry soil and diving prone etc. stalls and displays etc should emit debris when shot

>>377053519

This happens because the sight is higher than the tip of the barrel. Im pretty sure it is intended. The same thing happens in Squad.

I hope someone mods in the Vietnamese voices from the original BFV, because they sound horrible in RS2.

>>377053462

>SSD

Dude I only have SSDs in my rig and still people get there before I do.

You need M.2 SATA SSD to get sniper class these days.

>>377053816
No it's not. There was proper collision in RO2/RS so that your gun would be pushed a little higher over the ledge and you could shoot normally.

>>377053209
>>377053529
I liked the dynamic of the bolt action and automatics in RO2, the bolt actions were fun to use but it was also fun to play a high impact CQB class with an automatic. That's gone from RS2 now because everyone has automatics, also machine guns are much less important in RS2 which makes me sad because I'm an MG main.

>Mosin sucks
>can't play as a qt VC girl
>shooting out windows/over sandbags only works half the time
>movement/mantling feels unpolished
>shooting anybody 50m+ away becomes a pixel hunt
>random frame drops
>Insta dying when you're not in combat is jarring
Still enjoyed it, just needs a bit more polish imo

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>>377053892
>had the game on my HDD and was around the 40th person to load in
>install it to my SSD but I'm still only the 12th and best
>tfw I was always one of the first to load RO2/RS

When did so many people suddenly get good ssds?

>>377053954

They talked for porting RO2/RS content to RS2.

Considering engine is identic for the most part, maybe they might actually do that.

>>377050803
Someone reads every answer.

>>377053580

>bolt riflemen

Thery are/were satisfying as fuck especially long range kills allowing for leading and elevation.

Firing off that long-distance killing round as you leave your bolt non-chalantly open to chamber another round or top off the magazine and that what I loved about the bolt-actions of RO they're involving

>>377054126
what would they port?

>>377049070
Are they going to email one out specifically for the last wave again?

they removed the "preorder now to get acces to the next beta" image from the store page.
so no next beta and release is actually pretty close?

>>377054094

It's getting really cheap and new SSDs are faster.

My only HDD I have left I keep in an external case. It's mostly only for movies and shows.

>>377054126
That would only be worth doing if they fixed all the bugs and glitches RO2 still has. But they need to fix RS2's bugs first.

>>377054094

I got a normal seagate hdd and im on of the 1st people to load in. SSD are memes

>>377054245

The maps, weapons and guns I guess.

They'ld have to adapt the maps for RS2 gamemodes. But rest shouldn't be too hard.

They also said they might add a M113 and Anzac as well as South Vietnam troops if the game does well.

>>377054564

>weapons and tanks

It's all here.

steamcommunity.com/app/418460/discussions/3/133259855831004930

>>377053209
>In RO2 most people were stuck with bolt actions.

why are you implying this is a bad thing

>>377045553
RO2 shits on RS2, the gunplay is awful now

>>377049994
wtf is the star next to anonymous?

jesus christ,
what is that?
H-waht that fuck is that?

>>377053892
I've got the game installed on a cheap corsair SSD and I could easily get marksman every round if I wanted it

It's not that bad

>>377054675
I'm not. I'm saying that the "lack of weapons variety" didn't seem to be a problem then.

>>377054441

>SSD are memes

Yeah, right.

youtube.com/watch?v=vCItBX8288Y

>>377054564
so they just have automatic guns and tanks in ww2 maps?

>>377054806
you haven't gotten a 4chan pass yet?

>>377054415
>so no next beta and release is actually pretty close?
next beta is open beta

>>377054679
>>377045553
RO2/RS sucks badly. You get killed or kill way too fast and accurately. RS2 is better in so many ways.

>>377055367
That's because the only people still playing RO2 are no lifers with 5000 hours. RS2 will be the same after a while.

>>377055367
>game is too hard whaaaaaa

fucking shitters

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>>377055729
>muh no skill nor thinking strategy works because I buy the newest mouse gear
Go back to CS:GO.

>>377055367

gotta admit this beta particularly has been a slaughter house, a lot of satisfying moments mostly because of how incompetent most of the players were. Way too many TKs though.

>>377044978
It's like that in all the RO/RS games.
they don't have a dynamic 'HDR' audio system as far as I can tell

>>377055886
what are you even talking about, shitter

i can still farm the rs2 servers like ro2 except that they now added some annoying mechanics for shitters like suppression

>>377054564
>>377054862
I'd like to see an earlywar ARVN with garands, m1 carbines, thompsons, BARs and .30 cals

also pretty sure Song Be is meant to be a NLF vs ARVN battle

>>377055960
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Even when i die and respawn it still has the audio effect

>>377049763
Why not just play them all?

>>377054080
>>can't play as a qt VC girl
Kill yourself.

>>377054679
Fuck off. The only gun that feels good to use in RO2 is the MKB. Everything else has garbage sounds and feedback.

A complaint i have about this game is that the ragdoll physics suck. It's so unsatisfying when you shoot someone with a shotgun for them to gently drop exactly where they stand.

>>377054094
>faggot probably cant even afford a samsung 960 m2 pci-e x4 3.0 ssd
fuck off poor fag

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>>377055498
I can't wait

>>377056093
>waaahh wahhh
Who is crying now, yer daft cont!

>>377049763
Play RS2 and Squad. They both scratch different itches but together cover pretty much everything you could want in an fps.

>>377056598

Really?

I thought the ragdoll was one of the best thing with RS2, they feel really like they have weight to them. Apart from the occasional body flying into the air. I thought that was pretty cool.

I haven't played much shotgun though. But always satisfying hitting a guy running in the distance and see him crash his head on the ground.

You can see the head back off as well when you head shot a guy standing and then they fall like sack of potatoes. Just like those sniper in irak videos.

They really need to fix the graphics, they make my eyes fucking bleed and I don't know why.

>>377056292
kys yourself cuck, and then kiss and neck your killed self

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>>377056598
Do you want them to fly few meters away?
I like ragdoll, it's very satisfying to see running men drop.

>>377044001
I do not see much to critique honestly. The shooting mechanics are good and up-close fighting is intense. I like the team variety and different dynamics between the VC and Americans. Thick vegetation makes it viable for bush war.
Give me more maps, and friends to play with, and I think this is one of the best games of the year.

>go to steam forum
>fucktards moaning about shotguns having realistic range
Are retards like this the reason for shitty shotguns in vidya?

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>>377044001
UE3 is trash for big warfare games that visual distance fog is distinguishing.

>>377057165
They need to take that shit out or lessen it because it really makes it hard to see anything, and it just adds to the visual noise.

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How unrealistic is this shit?

>>377047470
GF is vietnamese and you should be glad he speaks english at all. When I am at family dinners they all speak gibberish, or should I say; gibbelish...

>>377047295
>>377045982
Good taste, my niggas