>consoles hold back pc graphics you were saying?

>>377037712

Exception
Not Rule

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>See, console games don't hold back pc games!
>uses a console exclusive as an example

>>377037712
now let's see it in motion

>>377037712
End yourself, shill

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IT'S CONSOLES GODDAMNIT! EVERY PC GAMER HAS TITAN X'S SLI. I SWEAR! BELIEVE ME! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>377037712
>a static, pre-rendered scene with no interaction, no AI, no nothing = totally proves muh point!

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>>377037712
>entire level except several doors is completely static
>why aren't you impressed yet

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>consoles hold back pc graphics
>devs criticized for already focusing too much on graphics now
if devs were expected to fully utilize the latest GPUs, they would have to pour even more of their budgets into graphics. so maybe consoles holding them back should be considered a good thing?

>>377038356
>>377038365
>yet still no level in a PC game that looks this good
Really makes you think

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>tfw not gimped down by pc port

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>>377038365
>>377038356

>static environments with almost no interaction
>runs like ass most of the time
>fucking boring

Moving on.

>>377038327
A lot of russian, chinese and southamericans came to Steam for Dota 2, there are tons of people with nothing but Dota 2 in their accounts.

>>377037712
PC exclusives rarely look as good as PS4 exclusives. No development team/publisher could justify spending the amount of money it would take for a minority of PC gamers that would be able to play it, yielding very little to no profit. With consoles you have a lot of support for funding and development.

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Can you imagine world without pc ports?
It would be a world without downgrades basically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6PQ19BEE24
This is now 3 years old

>>377039184
Wasn't this rendered on a PC though?

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>>377038925
>Hi, I've never played this game but I'm going to talk shit about it as if I have anyways.

>>377037712

Pre-rendered on PC

>>377039009
Oh really? Nice! Where's your source to back up this claim anon?

>>377039260
But this isn't even a game, so what point are you making?

>>377038731
>>377039184
>photo mode
now let's see it in gameplay

>>377038327
picture is accurate, most pc gamers play league, csgo and dota

>>377037712
Is this the sequel to Gone home?

>>377038327
You're fucking stupid. RUs and BRs are on Steam due to CS:GO and Dota and they have shit rigs.

>>377038183
>slow motion

>>377039270
If it was, it would have been downgraded.
Many such cases...

>>377037712

The most popular PC games are Minecraft and Hotline Miami, sure pc have better graphics

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>>377039278
>359x200

>>377039368
It's rendered in unreal engine 4, same as any Uncharted screenshot

>>377039278
does console gamer think rock falling is impressive?

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>>377039405
>>377039517
>mustardcuck damage control
PFFFFFFFFFFFAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>377037712
>trying to bait people into a console vs pc graphics argument
You are a sad little man OP, and I pity you. Next time you should use those great exclusive games as your point and why everyone should throw hundreds of dollars on a machine that has two good games and 98 mediocre multi plats

>>377039278
I did play it. I almost beat it.

I made it to just after Elena rescues Drake after the big reveal and they go hiking through the jungle.

The game has 1 fun part.

The sequence starting from the Clock Climb and ending after the Truck chase.
That was extremely fun. One of the best sequences I've played in an action game, period.

The rest? Absolutely fucking boring.
The puzzles were uninspired and dull.
The combat is boring.
The settings were almost all boring.

It's incredibly dull.

Pretty, yes. Some neat features (such as in your gif related) but barely any substance.

It just felt like a shinier, somehow dumbed down Uncharted 3.

Fucking boring, man.

>>377037712
You mean framerate you dumb shit.

>>377038731
>>377039184
>console thread
>bullshots everywhere

sony thread? sony thread.

>>377039635
It's not damage control retard, it's straight up logic. Who needs a high end PC if all you're playing is F2P MOBA shit all day every day?

>this is game released in 2017 exclusively on PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxC6nvkCRQA
just look at the graphics...

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>>377039817
shit meant to post this one

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>>377039838
>n-no we all h-have top end m-m-m-machines
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>377039817
>>377039891
The state of /v/. End this board.

They do?

Consoles have hardware of slightly before the time they're released and so the development capabilities of games is confined to that hardware for 4-6 years while that console is current.

Games developers don't design games to be next-gen utilizing current hardware because the PC market is not big enough for them to make so much money. They'll make higher profits selling a shitty-looking game to millions of console players who don't know any better and then porting it to fun-hungry PC cucks than they would to develop a game with modern graphical effects.

>>377037712
Don't understand the complaint.

They're going to develop for the people who actually buy games. Console game sales are several times the sales of PC game sales, even by an individual console basis.

PC gamers either play mostly online competitive games with microtransactions (which, despite being PC exclusive, do not have amazing graphics that would not work on console), or buy them when they're 90% off on Steam (or straight out pirate them).

Witcher 3 wouldn't have had the sort of budget it had if it didn't go console.

Reality is, unless you can find a way to get far more PC users to be willing to buy non-Multiplayer games, it will continue to work this way.

>>377039517
Prove it then. It should be easy right, Mr. MasterRace?

>>377039817
>>377039891
Don't you think you are trying a little too hard?

>>377040181
>millions of console players who don't know any better
Easier entry point for console users. Valve was going to attempt to break that barrier with the Steam Box stuff, but completely screwed the pooch when they let every other company design their own, with wildly different specs and cost points. It wasn't as simple a buy-in as a console.

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>Oversharpening an image = good graphics
I want to murder everyone who does this shit.
Tone it down with the sharpening, it's always either an Unchartedfag or a TW3fag doing it too, fucking stop it, it looks ugly, sharpening your image doesn't make it look less jaggy you fucks.

consoles support this trend of making everything blurry as shit, your screenshot is a perfect example
it's like all ps4 game protagonists are half blind

graphics hold back gaming

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>>377040287
>>377039338

>>377039817
>>377039891
not very original. sad part is, some newfags will actually buy this shit.

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>>377040898
>a chart with no references and links

Great source there my man! Upvote!

>>377037712
consoles hold back pc graphics

are you deaf?

>>377041046
I'm sorry you're too retarded to read filenames.
http://steamspy.com/country/

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>mustards on suicide watch

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>>377040287
>>377040023
Here are the Steam stats for today. Notice that they are mostly F2P or extremely cheap and low power games. Reminder that this doesn't include the millions of people playing League every day. You don't need a powerful machine or money to play these, which is why the Steam stats are skewed away from high cost/performance cards.

>>377040670
the problem with these UE4 demos (or whatever that is if not) is that artists will never actually design environments like this because their tools aren't intuitive enough to actually include that much detail in a current game unless it's indie dev tier low in content.

What you end up with most of the time in practice is stuff like astroneer with cool effects sort of wasted on poor environments.

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>>377041208
So you're saying that most mustards are literal 3rd world monkeys who cannot stop playing assfaggots?

MASTER RACE AMIRITE????????

PFHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHNAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

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>>377039743
>bullshots

>>377041362
You're trying to equate a platform that has thousands of configurations and hundreds of millions of users to a platform that has two configurations and 55 million users

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Why are consoles holding back graphics so much?
What's their end-game?

>>377041208
If ARK and Rust has taught me anything it's that you need a billion dollar Chinese supercomputer to play all those shitty multiplayer survival games.

>>377041658
DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>377041658
>hundreds of millions of users
...most of which who don't really play games on their PCs, but use for work or office-related purposes.

>>377041752
Memes and goldface posting are not arguments.

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n-no my friends on r-reddit said we're m-master r-r-r-r-race

>>377041698
Why does the lightning and water look so shit?

>/v/ last generation when Uncharted 1-3 came out
"Fucking movie games suck"
>/v/ in 2017 after Uncharted 4 was the only game available besides memeborne
"UNCHARTED IS THE BEST GAME EVER MADE AND HAS THE GREATEST GRAPHICS EVER"
really fires up my jimmy neutrons

>>377041821
He's talking about strictly gaming.
Steam and LoL alone have over 200 million users.

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>>377041825
>t. goalpost-moving mustardcuck

>>377039817
>>377039891
haha, put me in le epik screencap, reddit

>>377041591
Yes, photomode is a bullshot you idiot.
It increases the resolution, draw distance, lighting effects, shadows, anti alliasing etc.

>>377041870
Just Sonyfags anon, they don't have anything else to play.

>>377041821
Exactly, but if they have Steam installed, they still count towards the hardware survey. 125 million Steam account are currently active

>>377039549
>Popular PC games have shit graphics
What exactly does that prove? PC still has better graphics.

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>>377042015
>mfw reading this salty ass low-info post

>>377037712
>make game run unplayable slow
>"s-see, we have graphics too!"

>>377041698
>that fucking water
How is this a 2015 game

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Speaking of static images, look what the PC can render nowadays.

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>>377040898
>>377041147
BTFO

>>377042275
Wow, look at all this grass

>>377041930
LoL counts all accounts as individual "users", and count inactive accounts (and you're just taking their word for it, there's no actual public tracking).

Steam will count inactive accounts as well (see actual number of users of Steam at any given time; you can be really generous with how many are not online at the moment, but that's still far away from the number you're implying).

Bullshitting for marketing purposes is not unique to gaming, really. Happens in any industry.

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>>377042275
Looks almost as good as The Last of Us

>>377038327
That also brings into question what the term "PC Gamer" means. My girlfriend has a half-a-decade old laptop with The Sims 3 installed---is she a gamer? I'm sure people with Chromebooks played Farmville during it's *ahem* hayday...are they gamers?

These occurrences are rarer on console were everyone typically purchases a console to play games on almost exclusively---barring medium shifts (PS2-DVD, PS3- Blu Ray).

It's impossible to measure but I'd say true gaming PCs most have a dedicated GPU from at least five or six years ago, a dual core processor and 4-8 GB RAM to be considered. Most of those will be fairly close to the base PS4 and X1.

>>377039517
So you're confirming the post you're replying to, with visible butthurt, and somehow they're stupid?

>>377042589
I would have posted the 8K version of that image, but 4chan wont let me.

>>377037712
Nice aliasing faggot. That looks like fucking shit.

>>377037712
>Static scene with nothing going on
Nice techdemo.

>>377042446
This whole thread is full of grass, that's like the main setting of Uncharted, grass.

>>377038327
>incidentally, these surveys are voluntary, and most people who know enough about PCs to built powerful ones opt out of them, so this survey kind of tells you shit.

>>377042841
What would be the point? It's just a 1080p screenshot resized.

>>377042841
It would still look worse.
>MORE RESOLUTIONS MORE GRAFX XD
I'm sure you tell yourself that when playing minecraft at 8k.

>>377042015
No it doesnt you dumbfuck. Theres a webm of switching back and forth from photo mode to gameplay and its the same graphics. The PS4 Pro version of UC4 runs in a native 1440p too.

>>377043120
It's hacked Crysis 3, what i posted was actually downsized.

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>>377042841
It would still look worse

>>377042690
The term "gamer" for people who play video games has always felt stupid, anyway. Just about everyone plays video games in some for or other.

I'm still used to the 90's and earlier usage of it referring to people who play tabletop war games, board games, CCGs, and tabletop RPGs.

It's usage changing has been really weird.

pc cucks have tiny dicks lmao

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come back when consoles do 120hz ulmb lmao

>>377043221
>>377043309

How would it look worse? It looks better to me. Sharper lighting, nicer textures, plus the area is much larger than the one one presented in the Uncharted screens. It's much better.

>>377043282
So then why does it look so god damn fucking low res?

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Funny how the game looks like shit when it's not in stills mode.

>>377043502
>>377043282
Oh. Nevermind. I thought you were the one that posted the Uncharted screenshot which looks really blurry. My bad.

>>377043502
Because it was compressed by a retarded res change site? Or because your viewing device can't handle the resolution... there are many possible causes.

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>>377038327
>DUDE PCFAGS ALL HAVE TOASTERS AND PLAY LOW END GAMES
>LOLSPEND 20000 THOUSAND DOLLARS ON A PC
This is why PC is so great because you can have a build within your means and price range, unlike console where you need the same hardware to play completely different graphix games

>>377043479
>Sharper lighting
The fuck does that even mean?
The C3 screenshot looks like ambient occlusion gone wrong.

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>52 posters
>102 replies

>>377043930
The way light hit's surfaces in said picture looks more realistic, also would you care to explain your argument further? Maybe what you think is wrong with the light?

>>377043564
ok
post a different game then

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>>377044137

>>377037712
pre-baked assets. Those crap are nothing new

>>377044127
The ambient occlusion is exaggerated.

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>>377043479
Nope, you can tell Crysis was a last gen game

Yes, we are. Nice photo mode though.

>>377044375
Post a screenshot of gameplay, please.

>>377039278
The funny thing is that anyone who has played Uncharted can tell you that only happens in that one area then nowhere else in the game

>>377044375
SW Battlefront looks better on all consoles tbqhfam.
PC especially though.

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>>377044462
>screenshot
>of gameplay

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>>377039278
IS THAT WHAT I THINK IT IS
OH GOD
ROCKS THAT FALL
WOAH
THE FUTURE IS NOW
PC BTFO HOW WILL THEY RECOVER
WOW
THIS COMPLETELY CHANGES MY PERSPECTIVE

>>377044751
Like, all your posting are just stages with nothing in them. Post one that has like the hud and actual people in it.

>>377044751
Yes, we know. The game has a photo mode.

>>377043564
>Screen capping a a youtube video

k

>>377044751
DELETE THIS HOW CAN COMPETE PC BROS?

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>>377044824
>>377044826
>muh photomode

kek

all you can do is increase sharpness which you can do ingame too btw

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>>377043309
>reminder that this game runs in silky smooth 60fps with no drops

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>>377037712
>>377038327
>>377038731
>>377039184
>>377039278
>>377039635

When people say that "consoles hold back pc graphics" they mean in multiplats.

No one cares that you get 3 exclusives in a generation that look good because a team of people went through them manually toggling various settings on and off for various parts of the game, to the point that it takes them like 4 years to make a 12 hour corridor shooter

>>377045404
but uncharted 2 was 30fps

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>>377040485
>they let every other company design their own, with wildly different specs and cost points
Who the fuck thought that would be a good idea? They just needed one or two

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>consolefags think their games look better than this

>>377043309
Not a single dynamic shadow in this entire jpg.

>>377047208
You're retarded.

>>377047487
all the lighting and shading is baked into the engine. No person casts a shadow, no object does. No shadows. There are still supposed to be shadows when in the shade, but nothing is there.

>>377037712
Consoles hold back performance

>>377047740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPyKJWtLjn4
The only thing 'pre-baked' I your brain peecuck.

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>>377046583
lol they do

>>377047740
you dont cast shadows in the dark senpai

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>>377047924
>implying a ps4 could recreate this kind of lighting

>>377047740
>There are still supposed to be shadows when in the shade
No game does this without pre-baking. The closest thing to that is HBAO.

>>377039649
I actually managed to (somehow) endure to the end and it's one of the most boring fucking games I've ever played in my life.

I don't understand normies and their love for this snorefest.

>>377048894
>one of the most boring fucking games I've ever played in my life
>still played it for 10+ hours to completion
Hmmmm

>>377049196
I paid for it and was too stubborn to *completely* waste my money.

Uncharted 4 really does look mind blowing good
It's actually insane what they accomplished to do

The master race really is a laughing stock of the industry

>>377044490
Which makes it more impressive that they specifically designed something with this much detail in the game and it is there for only a small amount of time.

>>377037712
>uncharted
>good graphics

ugly piece of shit...i can smoke the fuck out of this in my 2011 TESV skyrim with a couple of simple mods:

-skse
-skyui
-unofficial skyrim legendary edition patch
-random alternate start
-cell stabilizer
-safetyload
-smim
-nobleskyrimmod hd-2k
-skyrim hd - terrain parallax tribute
-realistic water two
-watercolor for enb and realistic water two
-transparent wave spray retexture
-pure waters landscape textures
-skyrim flora overhaul
-vertant - a skyrim grass plugin
-aof hd tree lods
-skyrimhighdefinitionlods
-beautiful whiterun
-amidianborn book of silence
-skyfalls and skymills
-vivid landscapes - rocking stones and mountains
-cinematic fire effects 2 hd
-immersive fallen trees
-immersive roads
-immersive weapons
-immersive armors
-dust effects
-rugnarok
-high definition ivy
-horizon of dreams - night sky and moon textures
-enhanced blood textures
-enhanced lights and fx
-weather control center
-immersive first person view
-immersive hud
-apachiiskyhair
-apachiiskyhair a natural retexture
-unp female body
-unp blessed body - unpb
-fitness body
-all in one face pack
-mature skin texture and body
-skysight skins
-the eyes of beauty
-smile in hd
-no more ugly bronze shine
-realistic ragdolls and force
-xp32 maximum skeleton
-vampire lord retexture
-amazing follower tweaks
-racemenu
-showracemenu precache killer
-inhabitants of skyrim - npc overhaul
-bijin wives
-bijin warmaidens
-bijin npcs
-toccata follower
-vivace follower
-chaconne follower
-seranaholic
-lustmord armor
-serana dialogue edit
-serana - remove hood
-marriable serana

im making 100% utilization to the CORE ZERO because thats the only place the power should ever be.

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N-NOOOOO MUH CONSOLE BOOGIE MAN!!!!

ULTRA HAIRWORKS 16X 240HZ

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>>377039574

>>377044490
funny thing is you are wrong. Slopes like that are scattered through the whole game and have the exact same proprieties has that one.

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>>377049292
It isn't boring, it's just very easy even on harder difficulties

>>377050849
but wheres the gameplay?
All i ever see of horizon or uncharted are these webms and screen shots
not one of you fags is actually talking about the story or levels or fights
These games are literal movies

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>>377049928
nigger even some fucking david cage game looks better than anything on pc

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>>377048089
We can do better than your photoshop yes.

>>377051313
Yeah, Sony games always look great until they actually release.

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>>377047924
>characters move and look like animatronics
>X X X X X X X
Pottery

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>>377037712
>30 fps for a corridor shooter
>Motion blur everywhere
At least you got a still photo of a room.

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>>377051667
Nah they still look good my man.

>>377051737
Because the game is about playing as androids
>X X X X X X X X
as opposed to "hold left stick forward!!"

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>tfw too smart to care about graphics

game design is everything

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>>377052413
true

lets have pong graphics again

>>377038731
>muh photo mode with sharpening

why these screenshots never have the ui on?
are they, may I say, not in gameplay?

>>377052694
You can hide the UI during gameplay too you know

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>>377047924
>david cage

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>>377052413
>Tfw to smart to buy western games

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>>377052512
I actually wouldn't mind it. I play roguelikes.

>>377052831
Shit on David Cage all you want that doesnt change the fact that Beyond Two Souls made me cry multiple times.

This guy is a genius, maybe doesnt make the best gameplay but his stories are all amazing. Seriously cant wait to play Detroit.

>>377039278
Haven't played any of the Uncharted games but does that have any gameplay advantage? It'd be really neat to do that during a shootout and make enemies lose their balance and fall off a cliff or something.

>>377051435
looks like a shitty far cry 4

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>Console versions came out just fine while it literally took a year of fixes for Arkham Knight to work on PC, all because of some wet cape physics

CHECKMATE PKEKS!1!

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>>377037712
>tiny house
>literally NOTHING going on

thanks consoles

>>377052816
but i never seen one looking good with the ui on

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>>377052973
>Beyond Two Souls made me cry multiple times

>>377037712
looks too plasticy

>>377052973
I hope you are some kind of ruseman and don't actually believe that

>>377052104
is that a man?

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>>377039184
>>377038669
>being this delusional

>>377053387
>low res
>looks like shit
>has shit framerate
>has shit controls
>has quantity over quality physics

Biggest meme in gaming.

>>377037712
sadly photomode is not a game

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Is this thread for real? Are there people out there that think integrated graphics are better than an actual graphics card? I know consoles are geared towards low IQ people, but come on.

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>still not a single pkek game posted that looks better than Uncharted 4
Ohhh it's good to be on the winning team

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>>377053804
>720p webm with crazy shit going on
no wonder
>shit controls
What the fuck? Crysis objectively has the best controls of any FPS.

Quantity IS quality in video game physics.

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>>377051313
Looks like those COOL VIBRATIONS flew right over your head.

>>377044320
but the stupid pc can't handle them because of size restrictions. glorious bluray saves the day yet again

>>377054208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGyaR2sSBkA

>>377053239
>>Console versions came out just fine
>30FPS
??

>>377054208
Do you know how LODs work? The game doesn't render much on the screen or renders objects that are far away poorly to increase performance. You can't notice the difference on a TV because, again, TVs are for watching moves and are dogshit for playing games.

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>same looking multi-plat
You've shown them...

>>377047924

>David Cage
>Game

>>377054210
>Quantity IS quality in video game physics.
He doesn't know about quality physics.

>Animations don't have physics layered on top
>Physics are the same for all objects with only weight being different
>Same surface friction and aero friction values etc. on all objects
>No procedual destructability

Straight trash even for the time. Better stuff came out in 2008.

>>377052973
if you're in JUST for the stories, then maybe you're in the wrong industry

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I don't know what's worse. Platform war faggotry, or UNIRONICALLY thinking western games are worth a single solitary shit. The PS4 destroys the PC in terms of games, since Japan makes better games than the west and they refuse to port them to PC unless the better part of a decade has passed.

>>377054782
>He doesn't know about quality physics.
There isn't a came with better physics than Crysis. You actually have no idea what you're talking about and probably don't even know about the volumetric effects in the game that are subject to physics.

Keep shitting up the internet though.

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>>377054932
Orientals are shit at any creative work. They are only good at copying and repurposing things, hence the bastardized J"RPG" genre.

>>377055135
>volumetric effects in the game that are subject to physics
Standard stuff mate. You can go into the editor and see that the friction values are all static.

Keep pretending though.

>>377051291
>hurr PC has better graphics
>hurr when ever you argue with pcbros you only talk about graphics

You are all kinds of special aren't you?

>>377055502
>Standard stuff
wew lad.

>>377056434
Look up physics engines mate. Uncharted 4 royally shits on pretty much anything else when it comes to physics simulations. Even the Order 1886 has legit soft body physics

>PCtards doing all this damage control

L M A O
M
A
O

Pathetic

>>377037712
Gameplay > Graphics

>>377053239
>Gets fixed so that I can actually play it at S I X T Y F P S
>And only had to pay $6 while you probably got it for $60

Whose mate needs to be checked now?

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>>377054932
>unironically being a weeaboo

>>377037712
>tiny house with loading zones and 30fps
lmao

>>377037712
That's just (potentially) good optimization anon. Also a still-frame. I'd like to see all of this in motion.

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Let's see PC's graphics card

>>377043440
yeah lol

i love all my moving objects to look perfectly still

Whats the point of OP?
I mean really imagine being OP trolling so obviously
why even waste your breath?

>>377038731
edgies of the wood don't look good

>>377045696
But sweety, multiplat wouldn't exist w/o console.

>>377040670
>chromatic aberration.
Why don't you end your pathetic life of little faggot with shit tastes?