Best visual novel of all time

But I have

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I have.

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Every time I read a "best visual novel" I'm always disappointed, finished Chaos;Child a few months ago and it was not nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. Just read what you find fun.

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>>377035073
I hope you're not implying the remake was good

>>377035759
OwO What's this?

How do you live in a flooded laboratory for days without seeing your face reflected in the water surface?
If the whole plan was made by You and Blick Winkel to get BW's attention and get him to save Takeshi and Coco, how did You and BW meet in the first place?

>>377035073
its good but I still find Little Busters to be the best VN i've ever played

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>tfw you acknowledge the fact that ever17 had a really cool overarching plot idea but the execution was lacking in several areas, then move on to appreciating the real best visual novel

If a Visual novel has no gameplay it's not worth touching

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>>377036471
>Real best
>Doesn't have an ending

>>377036515
Fucking this, don't even post this shit on /v/. Worse than Gone Home. Literally ebooks with pictures and voices.

>>377036706
>has an ending but isn't where people expected it to end
>people aren't thorough enough to go find out the rest of what was going on through the multiple resources available

It was still a shame that Uchikoshi and Nakazawa couldn't wrap it up properly, but I'll take it.

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>>377036706
it had an ending, the 'bad guy' made his perfect loop you cant escape

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>>377037002
That's not really an end, it's an infinity loop

>>377036302
seawater's not really reflective is it?
i've never seen pictures of water where it looked particularly reflective except for pictures of lakes. if you're in a life or death situation how likely are you to just sit and admire your own reflection anyway? and blick winkel did not make any plans. blick winkel was tricked and at the very end of the true route said "OK fine i'll go save those guys." you didn't meet blick winkel until the very end. i don't think she was even sure of its existence she was just hoping that the research her father had done on the fourth dimension and other shit was true. this is all from memory after reading it years ago so i could be wrong.

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Ever17, the visual novel where every route but Coco's is shit.

>>377037334
The Takeshi routes were fine, Kid's were shit though

boy I love kick the can and chicken sandwiches

>>377037334
tsugumi's route is half good, sora's is shit, you's is mostly good, and sara's is good

the real problem is how long it takes to get back to what you were doing

>>377035073
More like babys first VN.I wouldn't even put it on the top of the list.

played subahibi years ago

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>>377037394
They were actually tuna sandwiches.

>>377037705
This.

>he thinks the best visual novels have even been translated

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>>377035073
But anon, I already did that.

>>377037705
what's your top of the list, if you don't mind me asking?

>>377037429
> sora's is shit
Wish I could punch you in a face over the Internet

>translated VNs

major kek

>>377035073
I don't like chicken sandwiches.

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>>377037215
I also read it a few years ago, though I remember being confused about that back then too. If it was all You's plan alone then there's no plothole. Maybe I remembered something wrong but I always thought BW told You how to trick him into doing all that.
About the water reflection, I don't think it matters if it's seawater or regular water, only depends on light and angles. They had plenty of time to not worry about their immediate safety to look down too. But this isn't really a big deal, I can go with your explanation.

>>377036471
Objectively true.

>>377038069
So is this any similar to seacats?

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>>377038214
Not him but

Sakura no Uta
Photo Kano
Amagami
Toheart 2
Utawarerumono as a series

In no particular order

>>377038423
4D beings exist with time in a weird way as it is. I seem to recall that BW told You how to trick him because when he didn't a paradox happened and fucked everything up.

>>377038507
tried to go through sakura no uta but I can't endure that faggy Kei
does he go away or die at some point or something?

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>>377035073
The actual best visual novel of all time is the one that actually has some gameplay to it

>>377038214
umineko
grisaya
wanko to kurasou
mgq
majikoi

>>377038775
>I can't endure that faggy Kei
>hating on best girl

>>377038817
What game?

>>377038817
I don't remember kamidori having anything from this pic.

>>377038857
>Majikoi
Top kek

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>>377038857
>grisaya
>majikoi

Into the trash.

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but I have

>>377037429
At least the first half of every route is shit, although they are mostly shared.

>>377038615
oh shit i forgot about that. if BW saves takeshi then You's plan has no reason to exist,
so a paradox is created. don't they solve this by saving takeshi and having him remain hidden and presumed dead for 17 years? i think coco just chills in that one pod in the LeMU for 17 years or something. or maybe takeshi did too,
i forget.

>>377035073
literally "it gets good after 80 hours: the "game""

>>377035073
According to the Japs the best kamige is WA2.

Sorry OP, you lose.

>the game is good because of a twist 50 hours in

Hate this meme

>>377038945
Kagetsu tohya, like it says in the top right.

Something not easily conveyed by just looking at a flowchart is the genuine feeling of exploration you have to do, because choices you make in one playthrough can give you different options in completely different paths in another one and the way events can play out in any given playthrough depend pretty heavily on both this and what you did previously in the same playthrough

>>377039296
But thats F/SN

>>377039457
Been soo long since I've read tsukihime not sure if I want to make the dive.

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>>377039296
But the last route was shit. The twist feels like a giant ass pull.

Pic related is better anyway

>translation never ever

>>377039425
What about a twist that happens like an hour or two in, like tsukihime?

>>377039504
F/SN is good from the start. One of the best prologues yet.

>>377035073
i did play little busters, though

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>>377039296
I barely struggled through first 4 routes and just can't continye even though I'm so close to supposedly good route.

>>377039293
Basically they save him but can't let people know they have or else BW would never be tricked.

>>377038817
>tfw i got len's hidden h-scene in this
i know typemoon has a track record of terrible h-scenes but that one was one of my favorites

>>377039516
plotwise it barely ties into tsukihime at all because it's a fan/bonus disk that they for some reason actually tried with. the main thing you miss by not having played it recently is just attachment to the characters in more wacky scenes

>>377039572
yeah I love 2-3 hours of magi babble

>>377039678
I'm sorry for your loss, seriously. You wasted a good chuck of time in your life and are never getting it back.

>>377039748
>yeah I love 2-3 hours of magi babble
Those are the best parts for me.

>>377039748
I'll check it out.

>>377039734
typemoon h-scene only became bad with f/sn. the ones in tsukihime for the most part aren't bad and more importantly they're all relevant to the story in ways the ones in f/sn aren't

>>377039678
Go ahead and finish it so you can realize the so called "godlike route" was just a confusing asspull.

>>377039527
>asspull
>Hints throughout all the routes
If you replay the game lots of things become more obvious and you can see it's intended. Dates on tickets, Kaburaki acting different to Takeshi like his penchant for alcohol, Tsugumi being way more of a bitch on Kid's route because she knows something's up, etc.

>>377039845
i didn't think the ones in tsukihime were that great, but len's in kt were both fantastic

>>377039572
It's good but has too much excess fat. The food talk almost made me drop the game a few times.

>>377039907
It skipped most of those scenes

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>>377039781
Me to. I can't start reading another VN either because I might still find the strength to finish this one.

MUVLUV
U
V
L
U
V

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>>377040056

>>377040016
Finish it and then start Umineko. Its really short and good from the start :^)

>>377040131
that's about alternative though

>>377040175
Unfortunately I finished umineko long ago.

I hate how so many visual novels are the same

>MC wakes up from his sleep
>Introduction and explanations upon waking up
>Transfers to new school
>Introductions of students in school and a tour around the school
>Play to know the dark pasts of the characters

Like, nigga. I don't fucking care about your past.

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Reminder that any notion of Umineko being a good mystery was destroyed by kastel-sama.

https://curiouscat.me/kastelpls/post/105150803

>>377040131

>Someone actually took the time to screencap this shitpost

>>377040417
EXPLAIN THIS, KASTEL-DONO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1zj_o7AoZE

>>377040429
this is classic copy pasta my newfriend

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It's always so cute to watch EOPs discuss visual novels.

Anyway, personally I'm about to play 神咒神威神楽. Like Dies irae, it starts with a prologue, which has some really beautiful Japanese.

>>377040417
>thinks Danganronpa is a good mystery

Opinion discarded

>>377040417
Is this a meme or is the guy trying to shill himself on /v/? I see it brought up a lot.

>>377040851
11s are subhuman, please leave

>>377040851
>light fags

Please leave

>>377040851
I guess you finally got replies after the fourth post or so. Now please leave.

>>377041036
I'm not Japanese.

>>377041081
Who does chuuni better? And I already liked Dies irae, KKK is a safe bet for enjoyment.

>>377041184
>chuuni

Please leave.

>>377041184
please leave, JOP discussion is only allowed in >>>/jp/

>>377041268
Don't let him make you think all JOP are bad, lots of JOP were here before him. Chuuni fags are just the worst of the JOP fanbase and ruin all talk with Muh DI. Light fags are the worst.

>>377040851
that's a nice pretentious way to start a shounen jump tier action vn

so where can I get these with nyaa dead

>>377041371
You moege-bound DJT fags are the worst.

>>377041410
Why post about something you never read?

>>377041482
From google. Nobody is going to spoonfeed you.

>>377041371
isn't DI getting a tl soon? lol

>>377041371
"JOP" is a dumb meme from angry /vn/ dwellers who tried to get back at smug /jp/ assholes for bullying them. It doesn't even make sense at a basic level.

Just ignore the obvious attention whore, he knows no one likes him and has to try and ruin other people's fun.

>>377041630
Yea, but light fags will just say the TL is bad.

>>377041482
Check /g/.

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>377035073
>he still hasn't played the best visual novel of all time

Are you telling me all that PTSD wasnt real?
Did I really never read MuvLuv?!

>>377041630
Yeah, coming out on the 31st. I made sure to play it before that to make sure I finish it before subhumans like this >>377041648 >>377041704 could ever touch it.

muv luv a shit

>Had Kamidori downloaded for months
>Never bothered to play it

Maybe one day.

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>>377041864
You have no idea how retarded you are being right now.

>>377042142
it's like fire emblem but good

>>377042142
The gameplay isn't all that great and the story is bad.

>>377042152
i've read three of these
rewrite, 11eyes, and dc1

>>377042213
also mud girl is best

>>377042209
Lmao

>>377039457
Didn't R11 do the same thing?

>>377042152
>playing La'cryma shit
>playing Lass shit
>and crying about "Light fags"

You fucking hipster.

>>377042152
>haru and natsu but no aki

Didn't like the straight moege focus?

>>377039504
But F S/N never gets good

>>377042447
Never said light games were bad, I said light fags were retarded. Thanks for proving me right.

>>377042476
I can't read everything.

>>377042152
saved for future cringe threads

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>>377042142
Kamidori plot isnt that great, but the gameplay is amazing.
Cant even consider it a VN, not one plays it to read.

>>377042587
What is cringe about my image?

>>377042637
It also has one of the best h-scenes in medium. And a lot of them.

>>377042558
And I'm a Light fag how? For enjoying Light's games and calling EOPs subhuman?

I also enjoy August games, which you have peppered on your desktop. Am I now an August fag too? What did August fags did to you? Called Lump of Sugar shit?

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>>377035073
>best visual novel
Ahahahaha

>>377042669
Don't bother. It's a reddit thing.

>>377042637
I agree, if you call Kamidori a vn then you have to let games like Atelier in.

>>377042737
You are being retarded for no reason. Please leave, no one wants you here. Did EOP kill your dog or rape your mother?

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>>377035073
but I have

>>377042848
I wouldn't know, don't visit reddit.

>>377042853
I think you are being retarded. Your desktop is a mess. That instantly makes one look like a scatterbrain.

>>377038507
>Amagami
anon. i'm pretty sure thats a DS and not a VN


i really want it translated

>>377042878
>wasting godly art on awful fetish stuff

I will never be not angry

>>377042953
OK

>>377043015
I'm glad you agree, good luck with your future DJT endeavors.

>>377043096
Ok. bye.

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>>377043009
but the shit anon, the shit!!

>>377042968
Aren't dating sims just a kind of visual novel?

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>>377042732
That is very true anon.
Actually trying to see every characters event and h-scenes was one of the most fun I had with the game.

>>377043125
I'm sure all the EOPs ITT appreciate your white knighting. If only you could get upvotes here.

>>377043239
Ok. Sorry bye.

>>377042887
r/visual novels is entertaining, though. It's where people go who think Lord of the Rings are the most complex books ever written.

>>377042737
>and calling EOPs subhuman?
irony at its finest

>>377043268
Can you stop giving him You's?

>>377043201
The shit can be ignored/skipped. The femdom is worse because it's way more prominent.

>>377043338
I just want to read what he is going to say next with the minimum effort. I think it's cute.

Too busy reading moege

>>377043436
This sounds like damage control and all you do is feeding shitposter.

>>377043216
dating sims stem from adventure games while vn's stem more from "choose your own adventure"
style books

i think

>>377035749
Is to heart 3 ever gonna be a thing ?

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>>377043384
>skipping the shit

why anon

>>377035073
I already played Kara no Shoujo.

>>377043676
VNs are just dating sims with stripped mechanics for casualization.

>>377043384
femdom is the thinking man's fetish

what are some other vn for thinking men such as myself? i've played discipline and mgq(no really a vn)

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>>377043912
yeah, you might be right.

>>377044069
>Thinking man's fetish
I knew those "really makes me think" poster has shit taste.

>>377043384
If you dont like either of those things why did you even start reading a porn VN that literally has that as its focus?

>>377044231
But I don't. I'm just lamenting the waste of good art on it.

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>>377043875
>Kara no Shoujo.

Mah negro.
Did you play the sequel too?
Its pretty good. Just as depressing too.

>>377043912
no the other dude's right
there's a reason they're called visual novels, they're meant to be books that sometimes have options. sometimes they don't even have that; kinetic novels are a thing.

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>>377044181
makes you think doesn't it

>>377044364
That image makes me thirsty.

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>>377044143
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>377044526
i have one of you too

>>377035073
Remember 11>Ever 17

>>377044354
>there's a reason they're called visual novels

Yeah, and the reason is "Advanture game" already exists and has a different meaning in the West. No one in Japan calls VNs visual novels.

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>>377044341
I did. Waiting patiently for the sequel and translation. Hope we don't get a sequelbait ending for the third time.

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>>377044637
yep

But I have played Unteralterbach

>>377044637
afaik they're not called adventure games in japan, either

>>377043629
I just said I was feeding him to see what he would say next. Looks like he is gone anyways.

>>377043714
Man I hope. I bought the game twice. PS3 version was amazing. Mio's story was too unfinished (the bit about the photo she dropped was never resolved and the sudden ending) also I hate that they made her pretty. I wanted my ugly duckling glasses pig tails girl.

>>377044850
Best taste. I am still mad that we cant talk about that.

>>377044708
Seems to be the final next.

I wish there was more like it, I have had enough of teenage bullshit.

>>377035073
but does it play this doing the game?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpZC1bKfX8

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>visual novels

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>>377045243

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>>377041842
Episode 4 fucking when?

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>>377035073
Probably Americans who can't read. Don't make fun of the handicapped OP.

>>377044618
no one ever mentions never 7 in these discussions. anyone here played it? i played a couple of routes but when i learned one of the remaining routes is some kind of joke route i kind of lost interest in continuing.

>>377037002
How come I stopped playing after 100% then? Check m8

>>377044779
To be fair the term does exist, but it's fairly new and people are just sticking to ADV or 美少女ゲーム.

>>377045321
Is there any translated muv-luv besides original trilogy actually worth playing?

>>377045496
nope

its a one hit wonder

>>377045468
I did. Played them all in order N7>E17>R11. Most people say it's shit and not worth the time, but I honestly enjoyed it.

>>377045243
>no brrraaappp

wasted meme potential

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>>377035073
that's not how you post a pic of Fault

>>377045598
normie mods ban 24hours on all boards for braaaap posting. for free

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>>377044708
Third game might be the last.
And considering the worst has already been shown we might finally get a happy ending.

>>377045757
probably the most succinct summary of umineko ever

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>>377045642

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>>377045780
>Kara no Shoujo.
>happy ending.

anon. i dont think so.

but i can always wish

>>377045586
i enjoyed those two routes i played (haruka's and yuuka's routes). are the remaining routes as good? that's what i really want to know i guess. i'll go back to playing it if they are. i'm also curious about 12riven. is it as bad as everyone says? ever since i read ever 17 i've had an unquenchable thirst for more stories like it

>>377045780
I fucking wish. Reiji already snapped from all the suffering so I don't see how it can get any worse than this. But this KnS so I won't be surprised if we don't get a happy ending.

>>377046034
Sorry, anon, but I've played it like ~4 years ago, so I can't remember much. But if you've enjoyed it so far, I'd suggest to try and finish it. Didn't play 12riven since there's no English version. You could also try Root Double. Nakazawa (one of the main writers from the Infinity series) worked on it and it's pretty good. Could also try I/O.

>>377046367
i really got sick of I/O after that route with the nonstop autistic gunslinging action. i want to read root double but my toaster can't handle some of the fancy visual effects and it slows down and gets hot when i try to run it, unfortunately. one of these days i'll give it another go when i get a better computer.

>>377045780
Maybe Reiji might finally marry Kyoko or Natsume and live happily ever after.

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>>377046701
>slows down on a VN

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>>377045965
I always hope for a happy ending.
God knows I hoped so hard when I started KnS2 and I got that goddamned dream ending which shattered all the hopes I had.
Honestly after that nothing can be worse for me.

>>377046307
Exactly. It cant get worse.
Only thing that could happen is Yukari dying.
Then I would be fucking done.

>>377046835
just because it's a visual novel doesn't mean it's optimized well. that higurashi steam re-release also runs like shit (because it was made with unity no doubt). please don't rub it in.

best VN of all time = 26th worst novel of last year

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>>377046964
could be worse

this is one of my favorites

World End Economica

It has an interesting setting, premise, and is written by an acomplished author. Not to mention it has some semblance of self respect compared to most VNs.

Only real downside is some translation issues.

>>377046940
>visual novel doesn't mean it's optimized well.

In most cases VNs are optimized like shit. I remember a fairly recent VN which had problems even on good rigs because the devs thought using software rendering is sufficient.

>>377047130
It's ok anon. I like it too.

Will there ever be another VN as atmospheric as Tsukihime?

>>377046701
>potato PC
Higurashi, Umineko, but you probably already played those as well.

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>>377045642
Fault was much better than I was expecting it to be.
But Sekai project are so fucking slow.

>>377047489
most likely yeah

thou it will take time

>>377047489
>Announce Tsukihime remake in 2008
>It's almost been 10 years and there's barely any news
>Staff is saying it's still in development
JUST

>>377046810
I like Natsume more but I guess Kyoko would be the one.
If I remember right there was a couple canon scenes in the second game that hinted that.

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>>377047717
Could be worse.

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>>377048138
>the duke nukem of VN's

>>377048253
Best part is how the people involved still claim to release it.

Meanwhile the website got flagged as an attacking malware site.

>>377035073
It was good but it drags on a bit towards the end, I think overall I enjoyed Never 7 more but Ever 17 definitely had a better story

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>>377038449
Kinda
>Western characters
>Greatest love story ever told
>10/10 OST
>good twists
>everyone has a hard life
>Great MC
>maids
>adult characters
>Set in a mansion
>was written with the idea of making the reader change it's interpretation of past events due to new information
It also features the very underused in VNs industrial revolution setting
Give it a try, and if by Door 3 you don't like it just give it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATMCU3i6-1c&list=PL1cFLEd7jERztNiN43JVOSP_kEzJaFlWn&index=23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1I9iz9dDJc&index=55&list=PL1cFLEd7jERztNiN43JVOSP_kEzJaFlWn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1I9iz9dDJc&index=55&list=PL1cFLEd7jERztNiN43JVOSP_kEzJaFlWn

>>377035073
The pacing on this game is REALLY terrible, even the company that made it know that. But damn good visual novel because of the mind twister

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>>377047130
how can i forget this piece of shit Which i liked

>>377049558
Most VNs have pacing issues simply because the customer wants long games for his money. It's understandable but leads to games which just drag on.

>>377049971
This is the worst thing about visual novels. The long ones are mostly filled with poorly written filler.

>>377047130
I played a shitload of VNs in my life and I have no shame admitting that the best VN I've ever played is Everlasting Summer. Fuck it, the Russians managed to make an awesome VN that is both interesting, fun, and a parody of Japanese VNs. In a single package. And it's fucking free.

I'm so hyped for their new VN that is supposed to come out ~eventually~...

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Spending 12 hours a day enjoying all these visual novels. Heh nothin personal plebs

>>377049971
I really tried to get into Grisaia, 50 hours into the game and the real story still hasn't begun, I think I only had like one choice until then and then I kind-of gave up and stopped playing. I really liked the characters and I wanted to know more, but holy shit it is slow...

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>>377048773
It's a damn shame. INO's art is fucking great.

>>377050576
holy shit

and i thought i didn't have a life

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Rate my VN collection.

I haven't even played half of them honestly, I just like hoarding them in the hopes I'll manage to find the time to read through them one day.

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>>377050742
0/10

"need more panzermaidels" -IGN 1944

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Give me your hot opinions onegaishimasu

>Fast paced but over quickly (a la 999) or slower paced but gives you something to do for a while?
>Gameplay or no gameplay? I personally think that games with gameplay are better but hey I still enjoyed Umineko

>>377045780
the detective girl died....so no happy ending there

Thanks for the VN recommendations, guys.

>>377050576
you're pretty similar to me, a lot of these i've either read, read partway and then dropped, or plan to read. you have a lot of stuff i'm not interested in at all on there, though.

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>>377051065

>>377047660
10 years later, I am still waiting for the new releases for Fault milestone to come out, I really liked the series

>>377051042
i like both short and long. i like to follow a long one with a short one.
i prefer vns without gameplay. if i wanted games, i'd play a game. i'd rather have a really great vn than a really great vn with obnoxious gameplay that isn't very good.

>>377035317
Lambdadelta had a hard life.
I love her

Cicadas > Seacats
You know I'm right.

>>377035073
I'm still allowed within a mile of elementary schools, so...

tfw I try to get my brother and mates to play visual novels, they don't even give it a chance

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>he didn't start with Sagara Family in 2006

Fucking newfag.

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>>377051452
>visual novels

its pretty simple anon

>>377051528
i don't know what i'm more triggered by, the fps display in a visual noel or the fucking windows xp theme

>>377051452
>even revealing that you read that stuff

Some people are born without a sense of shame.

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>>377051528
no thanks

>>377040417
>literally who memelord

>>377051620
the shitty font

>>377051638
Well my mates don't really care what I liked when they asked, they brush it off and forget about it

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>>377035073
But I have

>>377051620
Dat mid-2000s art style

>>377051638
>being a little bitch who is scared of normies

Trust me, they're harmless

>>377051915
but that's a good thing

>>377051695
the only problem i see with this is anal sex

>>377051871
been thinking of trying this, is it solid

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>tfw you're the best girl

>>377051620
>windows xp theme

That's Windows XP anon. The game is so ancient it doesn't even run properly on newer OS.

>>377053602
i know it's xp, i didn't mean to imply it's like an xp theme on win7 or something

>>377051323
umineko is a fucking mess. at the end of it i was just left wondering what was the point? higurashi is miles better in terms of satisfaction and catharsis. umineko was still a fun ride but fuck that ending.

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>>377052432
really

that one of the few that im ok with

but i all honesty, it the "romancing a family" thats the big killer

>>377054014
fucking tomaru

Is that one game that JAST picked up ever going to be released? Sumigo or whatever.

>>377052473
yeah, definitely top 5

How can anything compare to the VN of the century
http://store.steampowered.com/app/628920/Tomboys_Need_Love_Too/

>>377054170
nice, might have to give it a shot

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>>377054185
>this level of bad

>>377054170
Can you share your top 5, anon?

>>377054342
where did the specular highlights go?

>>377040417
Reminder people stop caring about the mystery by chapter 3 and mostly are jus there for the crazy

>>377054809
i dont know, maybe it was a whore and was a bit to lose and ended up fucking the country over in the late 90's.

>>377054342
what is it with remake's new art and dropping shading?

>>377040417
autism
>>377040957
shill

Official Uchikoshi/Nakazawa Infinity/Infinity-like ranking

E17 > 999 > R11 > VLR > RD > 12R > N7 > Shit > I/O > ZTD

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Sorry OP, translated VNs are thrown to the bottom of the backlog.

Only exceptions being so far, YU-NO and Eve Burst Error R, but for reasons.

Also Eve is pretty baller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv_0Tyl_p28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iqhztx4fXM

>>377056456
>Sorry OP, translated VNs are thrown to the bottom of the backlog.
Shame I read them raw VNs too and translated VNs are some of the best of the bunch. If it's good, it's good.

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>>377056609
My dude I don't mind that much, I just like using that non-EOP privilege if you catch my drift.

But if something catches my eye I usually don't mind too much if it's translated or not.

>>377056456
most substantial vns that get fan translated get that way because those vns moved the translators enough to give them the passion to actually go through with such a massive undertaking.
in other cases, these works get picked up by a company that either sees the potential in them or saw that the vn proved its potential already in the japanese market.

>>377056865
oh ok

>>377056424
i was sort of enjoying N7. does that mean 12R is actually decent? too bad it's not in english. also enjoyed ZTD more than I/O if only for its relative brevity and "so bad it's good" quality

>>377056865
Uh ma'am, I think you dropped your ass somewhere.

>>377042152
>tfw will never ever be this much of a failure in life no matter how hard I try

Feels fucking amazing desu

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>>377056424

>>377057203
Root Double had the most retarded title drop I've ever seen.

>>377056987
>also enjoyed ZTD more than I/O if only for its relative brevity and "so bad it's good" quality
I/O is decent until it jumps the shark big-time in the last route. ZTD is mediocre most of the time and also jumps the shark at the end.

So I/O > ZTD

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Realizing muvluv is an inferior gunparade march is the most important red pill a VN connoisseur has to swallow.

>>377057203
>RD and I/O 2nd and 3rd place
No, just no.

>>377057353
i don't disagree

>>377057529
but i/o was COMPLEX

>>377054729
1- Yu-no
2- ef
3- Eve Burst Error
4- Higurashi
5- Tsukihime

>>377057439
I'm pretty sure everyone knows it's just a ripoff of Gun-Parade march. Most people just don't care except maybe for Gun-parade to be translated for the west I guess but that sounds pretty grim since it's an old PSX game.

>>377035073
Why is /v/ giving so much attention to this VN lately?

>>377057863
PSP translation patch recently came out is my guess.

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>>377057619
What a ride eve was man

>>377057708
>ripoff literally the best game ever created
>call it muvluv
>praise it to all hell

Of course it will come out good what else would you expect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5BdiZ0WAMw&t=1s

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>there's more head-up-ass elitism among people who read erotic anime video game books than in all of /sci/ or /lit/
Can someone explain this to me?

>>377058551
learning japanese is hard and people who go through the trouble like to act smug about it
also people like to think their taste is the best and everyone who disagrees is a drooling retard
same old shit, really

>>377058551
>>>>genre fiction
Hard to get more elitist than this.

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>>377058551
Assuming that's true, it has a lot to do with insecurity. Especially among niwakas like >>377042152

But it's not true really, if you go to a circle that talks about, say, Dostoevsky works you will get your shit broken for reading a bad translation, or not knowing the language it was written on.

>>377058551
It takes a lot of effort to learn Japanese.
inb4 but I got fluent in a month

>>377035073
That's not Fate/Stay Night

>>377058229
To be fair blatant rip-offs is really common in Japan.

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>>377057619
My man, I'm trying to play YU-NO right now on SSF emulator, but the damn thing keeps crashing after awhile.

Should I just ditch it and play the windows version with the voice acting patch?

>>377057439
>>377057708
this is news to me but I believe it. Got a quick run down on the parts that were ripped off? the isekai mecha aspect?

Anyone can recommend me a beginner's VN, in english and with choices? It gotta be good too.

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>>377058551
You need to add something about John Green on that picture. It doesn't feel right without it.
>>377059541
The isekai mech, if you swap "BETAS" for "Illusion beasts" you pretty much have the GPM setting but more moefied.

That military approach when tackling the mechs in details, to all the crazy chuuni stuff is mostly from GPM too

>>377059805
boku no pico

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>>377059805
steins;gate

choose the "wrong" option first every time you're at a big decision point (but save beforehand) and follow this flowchart if you want the true end first run

>>377058551
I personally think that cult classics that grow popular in a small niche of hardcore consumers (and critics) are what usually end up having the most literary merit. It's how it has been with a lot of what we currently think of as the greatest novels, and it describes the current situation of VNs perfectly.

The best works challenge their readers and stand out from the rest, and that usually turns off a lot of average people who are just looking for status quo. Romeo, one of the most famous vn writers, wrote a few novels and instantly got nominated for literary awards. There are genius writers in this medium as there are in any, and you might be among the first to discover them. :p

- Conjueror

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>>377059869
Can't seem to find in english, got a link?
>>377059893
Thanks, I'll "play" this then.

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>>377060054
Give you one pro-tip.

Never get involved or too involved in vn communities, in both /vg/ or /jp/.

If you end up learning moon some day, reserve discussion to jap boards and never with English boards. Never engage in deep discussions with English speakers even if they claim they know Japanese.

If you must, visit whichever community that talks about it, but never stay too much unless you absolutely have to.

If you do that, your enjoyment of VNs increase at least 10 to 20 fold.

>>377035073
>ever 17
And that is when is when I fell in love with yuu asakawa. I genuinely fucking love her. Her momoyo is her best character though

>>377060470
don't trust this person

>>377060470
>If you end up learning moon some day, reserve discussion to jap boards
Like what?
All japanese eroge boards/threads are dead

>>377060621
2ch's alternative eroge board is pretty active in generals for whatever game you want

heck i still post in the light/shinzabanshou general and it's still pretty active

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>>377060621
Last I checked Meiwa isn't dead.

>>377060470
2ch VN discussions aren't really better. In fact, it's almost like /v/.
Talk positively about a new VN? Get called a shill.
Talk shit about some old game? 死ね

The main difference is that people over there get really angry about piracy.

>>377060745
These circlejerk general aren't interesting and mostly depopulated, may be good if you really like one game/series but for someone who care about the medium in general it's just not worth it

>>377060470
you shouldn't really engage in deep discussion about VNs period. Just read shit and take what enjoyment you can. Both English AND Japanese communities are full of trolls, autism and assholes. Any invested discussion is always an invitation for all three.

>>377060861
Not at all. In 2ch, you have particular generals to discuss about a game. So people who lurk there usually are like minded people who liked the same thing you did.

In 4chan you have generals to talk about all vns so you get a mix of people who both liked and disliked and hated with 0 will to discuss the topic and just want to trash it.

That's not to say that there isn't the occasional troll that pops in the general to shitpost, but since IDs are a thing they almost always end unsuccessful.

There's an obvious advantage there, which I hope I don't need to explain or point it out further.

>>377061070
How do you find new things if you don't engage in the community?

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Give me Dies Irae RIGHT NOW

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>377061058
>the medium in general
You mean like you want to have a single thread to talk about all vns at all times like you do in jay?

If you go anywhere and say "it's shit" without giving an argument of course people will tell you to die. What else do you expect?


But suit yourself lad. I prefer smaller generals for individual games, as it is much cleaner, has less trolls, much harder to troll, easier to ignore shitposts, users are much more helpful and are much more inclined to discuss the subject at hand.

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But I did.

MILFgumi (teenager) a best

>>377059805
that would heavily depend on the kind of stuff you're interested in
the other guy recommended s;g and i think that's a good one to start with, it has a pretty broad appeal imo. but if you really want good starter recs, you need to list what kind of things you like and what you're looking for.

>>377060470
english-speaking vn communities have been some of the most fun people to talk to imo, so i completely disagree. hell, look at this thread; it's a bunch of mostly english speakers talking about vns, and imo it's been one of the best threads i've had on /v/ in months.

>>377061307
Except you stay stuck in your bubble that way.
Like the shinza thread, what the fuck is there to talk about? It's been a year since Wilhelm's game was released and it's not like there is much to talk about in it

>>377061203
I don't "engage" deeply with any discussions on /v/ but I can still use it to find new games I might be interested in playing simply by browsing.

>>377061416
>it's been one of the best threads i've had on /v/ in months.

Quick, someone post the on-topic vs off-topic discussion on /v/ picture.

>>377061203
News websites, review sites, various forum posts and playing new releases and checking their catalog for things I enjoy. I should probably clarify when i say "engage" i mean jumping into opinion pieces like "IS X GIRL'S ROUTE SHIT?" or some shit.

don't get into discussions =/= not reading information

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>>377061524
My dude, what bubble? Do you not see the catalog filled with other generals? Just pick the one of the game you want to talk about!

The thing about 2ch my dude is that you really need to know how to browse it, otherwise it's useless.

>>377061416
/v/ is not really a vn community so it's fine to talk about it here mostly

>>377061753
Most interesting things don't t have a general though or barely pass one thread

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How do you fags get your VNs nowadays with weeb torrent sites popping out of existence?

Visual novels aren't games.

Fuck off.

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>>377061203
I get them from 2ch総合 blogs, for you I guess would be something like fuwanovel or w/e community with news on translations? IDK

>>377061836
Are you sure you're in the right place? You can make just a thread (not a general), and talk about whatever. Last year the Marl Oukoku general was dead so I remade it because I wanted to know about the PS3 version of the PS2 game on PSN.

>>377061882
Anime-Sharing.

>>377061836
dude, the fucking gunparade march general is active as fuck

and it's a 1999 game

are you sure the game you want to talk about is interesting?

Post the family tree

>>377062207
Gunparade is a console game and a cult hit, not an obscure eroge

>>377062110
matome sites only talk about the most niwaka shits

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>>377062207
GPM is an eternal game though

>>377062572
make the thread then lad, if you're not confident it will get success on a 2ch board for eroge, what place do you think would give you a better discussion?

>>377035073
>best girl isnt even in the picture

How does one man display such shit taste

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>>377062718
Or you could not discuss it, unless you absolutely have to, and if I have to I'd be wise to pick who it is and definitely not an English board.

>>377051576
This artist makes some god tier VNs

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Is Never7 any good? I can handle it being archaic and clunky but I can't handle it being boring.

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>pick VN music you like on youtube
>make sure you like both VN and music
>look at related videos
>explore other VNs

Bam. Like magic

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>>377062718
There is none in japanese pretty much, eroge as a medium is pretty much dead and nobody talk about anything that isn't the most obvious big stuff anymore.

Can you even mention one eroge franchise released this year that got some discussion/hype?

It's mostly circlejerking about old stuff by people who can't move on

I mean I find it funny that your only example are stuff like the shinza series aka a series that got so big it's even getting a sosshage and anime, Eve burst error a 20+ years old game that was on fucking ps+ a few months ago, GPM a pretty damn big cult and C;C that is again part of a big series and even got an anime.

>>377063030
Recommended route order is Yuka, Haruka, Saki, Kurumi, then the "true" route.

Never7 is kind of a slow burn. The Yuka route has some interesting stuff going on but doesn't take full advantage of it, Haruka's actually has some decent drama and plot, Saki's is total shit and you're right to hate it, and Kurumi's is once again interesting plot. Most of the events in those routes are just slice of life with a bit of larger mystery going on in the background, but Never7 also isn't as long as Ever17, so it felt like less of a slog to me overall. The final route deviates heavily from the slice of life shit after a while and goes fully off the rails with its subject material, and completing it made me appreciate the entire VN more.

I do not think Never7 is bad, it's just the weakest Infinity entry. You might get bored sometimes, I don't know.

>>377035073
If this doesn't have NTR I'm not downloading it.

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>>377063392
>I mean I find it funny your only example are stuff like the shinza series aka a series that got so big it's even getting a sosshage and anime

Ugh, a roach from /jp/. You're the very example why I don't engage in the communities that much.

But here's what lad, if you like to discuss Japanese stuff, like to do that with English speakers on an English board, then I'm not gonna stop you. Nor will I convince you of not doing that.

It was a tip, an advice. Take it or don't. Up to you. 2ch isn't even the best place to talk about eroge anyway, but suit yourself.