Heroes of the Storm

I love my wife D.va!!!

>>377028726
It won't, because it hasn't gained enough traction. 2.0 wasn't THAT big of an update, especially to be called fucking 2.0

If people weren't interested, they likely still aren't.

>>377029526
>20 free fucking characters
>not big

This could completely turn this game around

Girls and ass yes, gameplay no.

It's fun, I do enjoy playing HotS and it's far less stressful than other mobas, but it contains like half the complexity that Dota/LoL has.

>>377028726
>mobas will die in your life time
feels good

>>377028726
Nope. It's not picking up anything but an extra marketing budget courtesy from OW's success.

Blizzard will soon dump it once they realize it's not as successful as the DotA they let slip.

As for girls it only has characters from other series so no.

>>377029604
Mechanically nothing changed. They could give every hero for free and nothing would really change.

>>377029694
>Blizzard will soon dump it once they realize it's not as successful as the DotA they let slip.
They're still keeping D3 alive no matter what so I doubt it.

>>377029619
>half the complexity that Dota/LoL has.
maybe dota, but not league. At least not the league I played a few months ago

>>377028726
It's been out for almost two years and still hasn't made much of an impact. E-sports scene is dead and active player numbers are stagnant.

Overwatch and Hearthstone make more money so Blizzard will always put them before HotS

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>mfw playing Tracer and there is shit that 90% of the cast can do against her

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>>377028726
GARITHOS WHEN?

>>377029619
Why is more complexity supposed to mean "better game"

>>377029857
Pretty funny that HotS can add characters in like no business but OW could only do 3 in one full year

>>377029898
Her annoyance is balanced out by the fact that she isn't particularly strong. She's not like Valeera who can take you from 100 to 0 in 2 seconds.

>>377028726
Well it managed to corrupt dota a bit more by making valve introduce talents.

>>377029658
Its not a moba, its a hero BRAWLER

https://youtu.be/Tpt7IeycAr8

>hours away from the meme bomb

>>377029526
It's a great update for poorfags like me
The gameplay fine, why would they change it

>>377028726
While I don't like League, I don't think HoTS can compete. It streamlines the games so it removes some of the more annoying features of Dota clones, but at the same time it also introduces some new map types which do nothing but drag games out longer.

>>377029898
>that feel when blink in, melee the back of someone's head, stick them, then recall back before they properly react
Ever get that feelin of deja vu?

>>377030159
HotS characters are simply taken from existing games while Overwatch characters are actually completely original

>>377030159
Its easy when you keep taking heros from you other franchise.
>Tracer
>Zarya
>Lucio


Though I would kill for OW to have a stable release schedule.

>>377030391

I love some of the maps, but others just annoy the hell out of me.

Like, Hanamura is great to me because the whole thing is based around just pvp, all the grinding and attacking bases is basically irrelevant since the damage is done with the cannons.

>>377030520
You take more shots at the core at once if you push their anuses in though

>>377030602
only for one shot, it's not like the raven map.

>>377030391
Only thing I don't like is some heroes are just absolute dogshit on some maps.

>>377030520
All it takes is one building to go down to put your team in the lead

>>377030663
If both teams are moving their carts at the same pace, +1 shot means the enemy team is now on the defensive.

>>377030494
it would be nice if they\ gave us a schedule but weve gotten 3 heroes and 2 maps in a year i think thats a little low but thats one thing every ~2 1/3 months

>>377030208
She does sustainable damage

>>377030439
ah yes, a Dwarf. Highly original. Design wise no one gives a shit but waifufags and artists/cosplayers. Mechanically they have put out alot of bland characters that really don't see any use at all levels.

>>377028726
marketing please go

>>377029898
I really disliked how she played at first. Constantly shooting felt weird as fuck but after a few more matches she quickly became one of my favorite heroes.

>>377030520
hanamura is all about fucking split pushing or winning a team fight and taking the boss wtf are you smoking

>>377030391
>but at the same time it also introduces some new map types which do nothing but drag games out longer.


Games are typically sub 20 minutes though. A 30 minute game is a rare extreme and 1 hour games are completely unheard of.

>>377030137
the skill cap is low, there isn't much past death ball team fighting for 20 minutes

there's not much difference between pro players

It's boring.

>>377030391
>which do nothing but drag games out longer.
Yeah, by like 5 minutes

>>377029898
I feel like there is some major mobility-creep.

Tracer was the first of it, but fucking Lucio and Genji seem just as bad.

>>377029604
Nigger are you retarded, is not like you couldnt play the heroes before i had half of the roster unlicked already, geting 20 heroes for "free" means shit, you are not going to play those 20 heroes at best (if you arent retarded ofc) you are going to pick one and play with it a lot, even if you get bored there is still weekly hero rotations. Gtfo.

>>377031269
>It's boring.

I disagree because games are only around 20 minutes max 90% of the time. That's not long enough for me to get bored.

>>377030247
"Hero brawler" herba hobba, you made that up

>>377030787

I love Hanamura so much, it has a certain rythm of soaking lanes, pushing carts, blocking the enemy cart,getting turret camps, taking forts for extra shots and even a particularly good teamfight with no immediate goals can lead to a quick boss rush for an extra shot.

>>377028726
I saw this thread the other day

>>377031379
you're right, it's worse

by the time I'm feeling significant or powerful, like fights aren't just 1 second pick off retreats or wipes, the fucking game ends

I'm sorry you have a short attention span.

>>377030137
complexity generally means as i play more i have room to improve and play around with mechanics
depth is verygood for multiplayer games its why mobas and ow have done so well the skills in adition to needing to learn the base mechanics you need to learn each characters mechanics

>>377031136
>thinking it's marketing
The reality is no matter how much some people bitch about Blizzard, there are a shitton of Blizz fanboys here.

The only LoL character I gave a fuck about was Ahri, but now Blizzard has their own Ahri so yeah.

Got into the game after being sent from Overwatch in order to get the d.va skins and stuff

Actually unironically like it

But I fucking hate LoL, everything about it seems bland and tasteless,

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>>377029526
Here, let me give you a history lesson

Game goes into beta. It doesn't have enough heroes in its roster, the original maps in the rotation fucking suck, and it's grindy as hell. All but the first talent in a tier was locked, so you had to grind to unlock them. This included the second ultimate ability.
Everyone hates it, game is quickly declared a grindy piece of shit with casual gameplay and it fades into obscurity.

The team then spends the next year releasing new heroes, maps, and balancing heroes. So they do the Nexus Challenge to show players that the game is actually decent now.
But it's not enough. People groan at having to play the game for their shitty OW skin and most people aren't interest based on their initial impressions from the last time they played.

So now, they've changed the way cosmetics work in the game to be more Overwatch, and gave the game the "2.0" status just as a way of telling people "hey, remember Heroes of the Storm? It's good now! Come play it!"

>>377031560
>ow
>depth

>>377031492
>I saw a thread asking about waifus before
Congrats you have a memory

>>377029619
The only thing League has over this game is that it has a traditional Dota map. It is by no means more complex.

>>377031654
I want to fuck Valeera

I like how stripped down it is vs Dota2 and LoL. Makes it more skill based, but it's not hard to be good. I also like the maps as well as the focus on map objectives. Plus, it's basically Blizzard's All Star game like SSB, and I played WoW (and Diablo to some extent) for years.

This game is MUCH better now after the 2.0 update. Like others are saying, it wasn't a big update in itself. But it completely changed the priorities of the game. With the OW-style loot boxes you can get a lot free skins and shit you had to pay for in the past. Haven't spent a penny since coming back to this game for 2.0.

>>377031654
It's sad that Blizzard has to practically beg players from OW to spread into Heroes because they know they can get people hooked on the reward systems they've got going.

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Enjoying the payrise

>>377028726

Oh, and

>Does it have the girls and the ass to compete with League?

Yes, yes it does.

>>377031817
I got 3 heroes out of 2 boxes in a row

If this game's loot system worked like this to begin with itd be far more poplar

>>377031787
The fact that Valeera didn't perplexes me.

>>377031659
wanna say more than two words? because besides the universal aiming of fps games you need to learn ult management and when to use them for the game and then you need to learn character specific mechanics mercy alon has alot of depth and there are underated characters like sombra because they have a very high skill floor/ceiling

>>377031817
Skill based? It's a fucking team fight simulator. Whoever has the best team comp wins, whoever gets to 10 first wins.

>>377031654
>talent gating

i cant believe this was a thing, what the fuck were they thinking?

>>377031928
Varian didn't, I meant

>>377031928
>Valeera fucking herself
I need this

>>377031843

Man I wish I could get paid to shill, I don't even care what company. I would get really fucking creative with my shilling.

>>377030137
i play hots a lot its kinda fun but im not a desilutional bitch, the game is for casuals, have you ever watched a pro dota match? thos fucking games some are fucking intense, a single mistake can turn the table, there are warding, suport rotation/roaming, jungling, smoke plays, tree juking, roshan contesting, early game rune fighting, buy back, tp scrolls etc etc...

>>377031950
>Whoever has the best team comp wins
Not really, it's more of whoever has the team with less noobs.

>>377031690
no I saw this exactly thread with the same exact wording

>>377031950

What does the goals of the game have to do with individual or team skill? Like I said it's not hard to be good at the game.

>Have crush on Medic in Brood War when I was 11
>Come back and she's a hero in this game and big and thicc like I want them

I want a hug from Morales!

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>>377028726
It doesn't have the mechanical depth of DotA or the addictive nature of LoL. It's only "picking up steam" because of the monthlong event series that Blizz is doing, which is drawing in players from Overwatch.

>>377031824

Sad? More like they finally made a good business move for HotS.

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>>377031964
>talent gating
>many characters have ultimate that are niche picks, while others characters basically only have one ultimate
>have fun in a mirror match with a higher level player

>>377028726
It has LiLi

>>377032148
I'm not complaining, as least I'm getting more people on my friends list.

>>377031787
>>377031928
>>377032018
Have a Valeera fapfic
https://pastebin.com/gvCNsEEX

>>377032086

Sounds fair to me

>>377030137
Which game are you more likely to stick around in? One in which you can have reasonable mastery of all mechanics within a week, or one that will take a year before you're genuinely good?

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>>377031356
Every OW hero being able to move and attack simultaneously is a problem, but it wouldn't be such a problem if Genji and Lucio didn't have crazy mobility on top of being able to move and attack.

The game needs an anti-mobility hero to deal with heroes like Genji and Lucio. Dehaka already kinda does it with his ability to drag people.

>>377032215
I want to make half-elves with that rogue

>>377031964
>hurr unlocks are fun
That's what they thought

>>377032262

Not him but at least in HotS people don't constantly just bitch in chat when they're losing instead of just play.

>>377031947
Ridiculous hitboxes, hitscan weapons and press Q to kill the enemy team is not interesting enough to me

It's just designed to give you pleasurable feedback in every way, perfectly balanced reward systems that fool you into thinking it's fun. The sound a headshot makes or the sound it makes when you kill someone, how fast you respawn, how lootboxes give random rewards but you get a lootbox at a constant rate so you always play until you get one or at least feel like it.

>>377032262

Don't think I'd have fun sucking at a game for an entire year.

I like the game but it has the bad habit of lag spiking right when teamfights initiate even though I have a solid connection.

>>377032278
>The game needs an anti-mobility hero to deal with heroes like Genji and Lucio.
Lambs to the Slaughter?

>>377032278
Zarya can't move while firing and Genji needs to start throwing shurikens before he is allowed to move while firing

>>377028726
>Does it have the girls and the ass to compete with League?
No, all of them have been assigned to Overwatch instead.

>>377032165
it got me to play the game and i spent real money to get chogall so if other people do the same shit its a really good decision by blizz i hope theres another challenge later for like a mercy skin or just more loot boxes
>>377032262
if the floor is too high in the later game id say the first because if it takes too long to become enjoyable im just gonna assume i dont like it

>>377030137
Every match pretty much feels the same with little to no options to mix things up. Heroes are confined to their roles and there's no option to make heroes like Diablo an assassin through items or anything like that.

Talents for most heroes are pretty lame, they are reworking them though over time. Tyrande is getting a really good one in the next patch.

>>377032409
Even as a non-mobile hero, its not too hard to walk out before being chained.

>>377031251
In all honesty, thats part of the problem. Matches shouldn't be more than 10 minutes.

>>377030520
This is kinda one of the problem maps I find. While yeah it lets you focus on PVP and team fights, at the same time, you're kind of at the mercy of the spawn timer for things like payloads and such. Its not really a bad mode, but it takes the same amount of time every match no matter how badl you're crushing the enemy. Theres little ways to hurry it up a little, but it doesn't speed it up enough so the matches just drag.

>>377032407

Glad I'm not the only one with this problem. Most frustrating thing about this game.

>>377032142
>big and thicc
Don't let the armour fool you

>>377032262
HOTS.

DOTA is boring as shit dude.

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>>377032357
It's because there's basically never a time where something isn't happening. You don't have time to sit and bitch unless you're dead.
It also helps that you can't talk to the enemy team. Imagine if you could in a game filled with Blizzkids.

>>377032492

Not in a heavy teamfight. You might not even notice it.

>>377032475
>it got me to play the game and i spent real money to get chogall so if other people do the same shit its a really good decision by blizz i hope theres another challenge later for like a mercy skin or just more loot boxes

That would be awesome. I bet they'll probably make at least the Nexus Challenge a yearly thing.

>>377032278
>The game needs an anti-mobility hero to deal with heroes like Genji and Lucio
They do, the name is Valeera, Zeratul and Nova.

>>377032546
i want to believe

>>377032365
this, it's psychologically addictive and you feel important. it's the same reason LeL is popular, fags snowballing into unstoppable one man killing machines and then surrendering at 25 for the chance to do it again/themselves

it's not truly rewarding in any way

>>377032365
the ults arent just straight up team kills but okay and i dont give a shit about loot boxes theyre just 30 credits and thats worthless to me and i think the big hit boxes make sense with the mobility most characters have and the fact that most weapons are projectile in the game

>>377031964
Honestly it wasn't that bad. It made your first game easier since you had less comps to read overall and I felt that it eased up your way into this character build.
It also provided an incentise to play the char again to have another bunch of different talents
And after two or three games you allready had full capacity rooster unlocked anyway

>>377032665

Nova is the lowest-tier hero in the game.

>>377032553
b-b-but the game has a bunch of separate buttons for one mechanic! that means it's complex and isn't boring!

>>377032567
>You don't have time to sit and bitch unless you're dead.
No, people who want to bitch always somehow find the time, no matter the circumstances.

I like reporting them because I know at some point, they'll rage hard and whine about it on /v/ or something.

>>377032357
the game is braindead easy, who needs to communicate?

ASSFAGGOTS have traction based on when they entered the market.

DOTA stood out from other AoS clones because it was one of the earliest maps in Reign of Chaos to feature custom spells, and that base eventually carried over to Frozen Throne even though it took a while.

LoL was the first major ASSFAGGOTS to stand out as its own game as opposed to a Warcraft 3 map played over shitty tunneling services.

DOTA 2 had the already established DOTA base.

Heroes of the Storm has nothing. It's just another ASSFAGGOTS, albeit one that fixed problems like forced rote memorization.

>>377031817
They could strip it down even further to make it a fun game. Should have made a Bloodline Champions game rather than make lane based creep bullshit

>>377032776
gg

>>377032712
>>377032553
there's the most stuff to do at any given time in a dota game, if you think it's boring it's because you don't know how to play

fucking 1k shits

>>377030208
Valeera's burst damage got fucking gutted because shitters like you couldn't handle her.

HotS is the moba for people who realized that Dota is shit.

It's shit to, but at least it's much shorter and doesn't destroy your life like dota can.

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>>377032702

>that is not Abathur and Medivh.

Who are both trash except for organized tournament play.

Nova is completely fine in Bronze, Silver and Gold, because she can carry your shitters.

>>377032776
>It's easy because that narrative fits my argument
It's not an easy game
>inb4 "BUT I SAID IT IS!!!"
and I said the opposite, so who's in the right here?

It's too casual to last. People won't stick to it autistically like they did with Dota. Sure people will play for a while due to the OW skins and the 20 free characters, but it lacks staying power.

>>377032689
most arent projectile weapons, having to lead a mobile target would make the skillcap higher and the gameplay more interesting

it would also be a slight buff to good Pharah players but instead they just get rekt by automatic weapons because there is no leading

>>377032795
Hots's main draw is the simplified gameplay that gets rid of a lot of the pointless bloat that the others have. LoL and other Dota clones tend to rely a lot on knowing whats the optimal build per hero, what you need to get to that build, as well as needing to last hit to gain gold. While the building items stuff can bring customization, a lot of the time it just puts too big of a burden on the player to know what'd work and what wouldn't and is a huge barrier of entry to new players. Last hitting is just a moronic concept as well that I think only existed due to limitations of the WC3 mod.

Also it has some more map types and maps in general in comparison to the other games.

>>377028726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WsfplvaIio

>>377032395
>>377032475
Who said the floor? Bronze plays with Bronze.

You can watch three different pieces of League gameplay, one from a Bronze, one from a Platinum, and one from a Challenger, and you'll be able to tell which is which just by looking. CS, ward placement, itemization, kiting, everything.

HotS has almost none of that.

>>377032872
It can still kill most non-tanks fast

Tyrande's rework seems fun

>>377032867
>if you think X about dota then you're shit!
That's your response to all criticism

DOTA2 has no reason for its needlessly complex control scheme, this isn't Warcraft 3 so there's no reason to be so similar.

>>377032980
>Medivh.
Now that I think of it, I have never once had trouble fighting a Medivh

Blizzard games are made for plebs and balanced around the lowest common denominator to appeal to the most people.

The games are jokes

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>>377033063
>That Slapathur fight at the end

>>377031964
>>377031654
Holy shit, I must have completely blocked that out somehow.

>>377029658
cant belive im downloading this garbage game just to get a dva skin, come the fuck on blizzard.

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>>377028726
>I was told this game is going to be the LoL/DotA2 killer since those games are dropping the ball and HotS is picking up steam.
lol
The International is still the biggest tournament in vidya and even League's "mundane" tournaments like MSI draw huge crowds. HotS only even has players right now because of the Overwatch event. Don't kid yourself.

>>377033004
That's because ASSFAGGOTS is a casual as fuck utterly simplistic genre once you strip away the autistic memorization requirement of grinding for items.

I've come around to HotS, it's nice to have a moba that doesn't require you to put aside an hour and a half just to play it.

>>377032867
>there's more to do that means its all engaging

Yeah and Skyrim has infinite quests.

>>377033183
Not that guy, but you can say that about literally every Dota clone. There is no reason at all for the games to try to mimic WC3's control scheme and visuals at all. The games would be -far- better if they moved away from the shitty RTS controls and instead did something like a shooter or whatever.

>>377033258
RIP in piss

Why is classic blue and blonde Nova best Nova

>>377031269
that's like saying there isnt anything to dota except farming for 40minutes. you're a noob

>>377033278
It's 2017 mate you'll download it in 5 minutes.

>>377033279
I hate that esports have become the measure of whether a game is fun to play or not.

>>377033368
How are those wards working out?

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>>377033246
>they both kill each other.

>>377032142
she's a flat chested lesbian under the armour

>>377033183
How is QWER complex?

Because there's items too? If you can't use a keyboard then stop playing with one.

The only complex control schemes might be for Meepo, Enchantress and Chen. Or someone with a helm of the dominator using it to stack creeps. But that's higher skill cap stuff that makes the game fun, you don't just remove it because most people can't do it you fucking pussy.

Also YEAH most people think DotA has a stale early game because they play in the pits where it IS stale. I doubt you know anything substantial about DotA and are just a Blizzard Boy.

>>377033410
>muh fun
Literally not relevant to the conversation at all. He's asking whether HotS will be the DotA/League killer which has literally nothing to do with fun.

>>377028726
HotS is to MOBAs what Smash Bros is to Fighting Games.

HotS is mostly intended for a slightly different audience.

>>377032795
HotS has real characters though. It's the reason LoL is shit to me and DoTA bored me when I was invited to play

I'm a nostalgia fag so the past few weeks starting this game I like that I know who most of the characters are (who the fuck is alarak though, some LoTV villain? Guy's basically a Sith lord), and sometimes nostalgic BW music, brings back fuzzy good memories

DoTA 2's champs aren't bad, but LoL is just a mess, there's like 120 fuckers on this page, all of them Literally Who's drawn by Deviantart

http://gameinfo.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/

How did people get into a game this messy?

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>tfw post-rework Tyrande is relevant again outside of CC lockdown burst comps

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>>377033335
Smite is third person

>>377028726
it might get a few million people to play it who are already playing Overwatch for the overwatch goodies. But I highly doubt it will keep any of them once the 5 week loot crate event stops.

>>377032867
that isn't what makes a good game. i played dota for thousands of hours but i can't stand it at this point. short games on different maps are way better than last hitting and jungle farming for 20minutes

>>377033541
Yeah I know. It probably has better more responsive controls than what most Mobas have, but I've never bothered to try it to know for certain.

>>377033541
>Third person moba's

Tried playing paragon this weekend, 3rd person moba's seem incredibly odd to play.

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>>377033517
Play League for two weeks and you'll have a basic grasp on about 85% of the characters.

>>377033541
What fucking version of Smite is this? Is this even Smite or a Chinese ripoff? Last time I played was Season 2 and it looked nothing like that.

>>377033325
>engaging
want to try elaborating or do you just want to use another buzzword?

Heroes isn't any more engaging, everything is just spelled out for you, the maps are small and you're constantly told to team fight over objectives. That's the whole game.

>>377033498
The only thing killing Dota/League are themselves. It sounds like Dota is implementing a patch that's improving itself, but a game can't kill another game unless it's bringing something unique to the table that the others can't provide.

HotS won't kill the games or esport scene, but it will probably be one of the few relevant MOBAs left since it's barely a MOBA.

I only play HotS and i only watch competitive Dota.

I don't do either that much though.

Mobas are cancer. Don't need to play more than a couple of hours a week to have my fill.

>>377033442
I love her, except her 2D portrait looks like a pale gobilin

And her dance when hearthing

>>377032702
Maybe, but she can still shut down Genji and Lucio with ease

>>377033490
>How is QWER complex?
>Because there's items too? If you can't use a keyboard then stop playing with one.
Not what I'm talking about.
>The only complex control schemes might be for Meepo, Enchantress and Chen. Or someone with a helm of the dominator using it to stack creeps.
This is what I'm talking about, it has no reason to be this complicated to control multiple units.
>But that's higher skill cap stuff that makes the game fun, you don't just remove it because most people can't do it you fucking pussy.
No, it's tedious, there is no reason not to make it simpler.

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Is there a single character in HotS as fun as Darius?

>>377033621
it's too simplistic and gets old fast, nearly every map is the same just repainted

the main content still stands, all you do is deathball

>>377033738
Very old version of smite, grabbed the pic off google

>>377031964
Idea was probably to lessen the burden on brand new players to each character so that they had easier talent choices on their first few games. After 2-4 games the talents would unlock anyway, and after a few account levels it would unlock for everyone. BUT two main problems existed with that plan.

1. Veterans from other ASSFAGGOTS felt like they were being constrained rather than guided.
2. A lot of the talents at the time were pretty generic, and the fun and interesting (and often better) talents were locked away. It made most of the short roster feel pretty samey on your first few games.

>>377029694
it's still turning a profit for very little effort, i doubt they'll ever "dump it" like so many people think they will
hell, they still do season changes and whatnot in diablo 2

>>377031654
I like how people forgot about grinding talents.

It always felt foolish to play anything but like one character because you were gimped right off the bat.

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I can't wait for the HotS event to end.
>casuals get a taste
>wash into league
>go onto smurf
>play Shaco or Yasuo
>roll in the tears
It'll be fucking hilarious.

>>377033904
It's already been made simpler. It isn't hard to switch between units or set up control groups if you really want. It doesn't require a degree and you don't have to play those heroes.

There's no reason to water it down so much it becomes a WoW pet like fucking Rexxar.

>>377032278
>lucio
>cant soak exp because no waveclear
>average heal before level 16
>no cleanse

>genji
>follow up or finisher only
>cant initiate or else he will have no tools to survive
>telegraphed ult and reflect

they are both above average champs at best

>>377033938
Has Dota or LoL changed any? Because I recall LoL especially had maybe 1, 2 maps? And like one or two other game modes that had one or two maps as well, and they all were essentially the same map just tweaked very slightly.

Hots maps tend to have different gimmicks per map.

>>377034138
DotA and League each have only one map for the primary mode but either are far, far more complex and large than anything in HotS.

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>>377033930
Varian probably
>huge damage projectile slow
>two charges of immune to everything
>tackle someone
>your choice between faster attack rate, blowing someone up, or being the beefiest tank around next to Diablo and Cho

>>377033379
and how long do these games like like 30 minutes each

>>377033781
>b-b-buzzwords

Ok, I'll spell it out for you.

Last hitting isn't fun. Maintaining wards isn't fun. Input lag isn't fun. Jungling isn't fun. More to do =! more fun.

Complex doesn't necessarily translate to fun when it comes to video games. Yeah, I can grasp it if I put in enough hours, but do I want to put hours into learning more DOTA or do I want to put some time into learning my second or third language?

>>377034081
I can't wait for the event to end so the shitters leave.

>>377033738
>Play League for two weeks and you'll have a basic grasp on about 85% of the characters.

>Basic attack booster
>Gap closer
>Some type of crowd control, usually minor
>Huge burst on one enemy

85% of the cast right there.

>>377034081
Most overwatch players are hating the event, if there's anyone who's not going to stick to HotS then they're sure as hell not going to LoL

ESPECIALLY since that game not only has a much larger grind for heroes but also you have to pay for skins

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>>377034217
>jungling isn't fun
>warding isn't fun
You are bad and madbad.

>>377034138
Dotas map has changed a couple times over the years in important ways. Heroes maps while different dont really offer much besides capture the point and collect the stuff. It's just whoever team fights best.

>>377034208

More like 15-20

>>377034271
You're not just wrong, you're stupid.

>>377034208
Most games are 20 minutes max. Stomps can end in 10. Longest I've EVER played in my 3000+ games was 50 minutes.

>>377033442
Li Ming needs another skin. That there is basically her only good skin and it turns her into a goddamn volleyball player.

>>377034201
Larger yes, more complex? I wouldn't really go that far. The only complexity I can think of is juggling buffs from the jungle.

>>377034201
>but either are far, far more complex and large than anything in HotS.
No.

>>377034217
The mechanics themselves aren't fun, but the constant juggling of mechanics in order to make it properly to late game is what makes the game fun. It's satisfying when you properly play the game and it results in a stronger team and characters.

That being said, there's always the chance other people completely ruin it for you and your team. Like people who feed and AFK in base sending out a ton of couriers they've bought.
It's rare, but it really puts a damper on the game's mechanics making it appear more to benefit trolls than serious players.

>>377034458

Azmodan is the better bball skin

>>377033015
pharah is pretty fucking powerful right now and there still is leading like with proj characters
and only 10 characters are hit scan and many of those hit scans dont even have range on their weapons and its 13 if you wanna count characters with a mix of hit scan and proj and maybe those hit boxes would lead to more skill or theyd just be annoying where itd look like youre hitting someone but not actually hitting them from mobility on some heroes like tracer or genji there are good reasons to not have hit detection to match 100% with models

>>377034387
>Star Princess
>Bad
Fight me

>>377034458
She looks really, really good with her hair put back.

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>>377034517
>>377034458

>>377034517
Look at that ball you cunt. FUCK LOOK AT IT.

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>>377034592
It turns her fabulous ponytail into a shitty 80s mop.

>>377034081
>people moving from HotS
>to fucking LoL
>moving from a steaming pile of shit to a bucket of cold diarrhea

don't think that's gonna happen

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>>377034217
>jungling isn't fun
How can one man be so wrong?

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>>377032357
>"click [HERE] to disable Allied Chat"
>*click*

>>377034217
It's a competitive game, if you don't want to refine your skill that's on you. I don't feel rewarded for going down the path of least resistance.

Last hitting becomes second nature, scouting out wards and putting out wards becomes second nature, learning what items are good for what and counters who. There's a massive skill cap and difference between players.

>>377033541
Hi-Rez did their usual thing and went FULL MAXIMUM OVERJEW on Smite though. Or was that Paragons?

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>>377034621
>>377034629

You know it's true.

>>377034517
that isnt a basketball its a goddamn volleyball jesus christ get out of the basement anon

>>377034332
>>377034676
Jungling is pretty mindless and boring if the enemy team never tries to gank you.

>>377034507
Not that guy, but I'd say thats exactly why its not fun. Its this dumb ass barrier to entry in order to get TO the fun bits. You have to waste like 10 - 20 minutes doing all this super dull shit just to get to the part where its fun. And if someone fucked up during those 20 minutes? Well, now you're in for an uphill climb which can often result in a loss regardless.

>>377034736
muting everyone feels so good

>>377034201
>League
>Complex
Lmao what

>>377034081
>casuals get a taste
>they never play a moba again


Time to face reality

>>377034804
You're a shit jungler.
>most map awareness required
>most vision required
>have to be aware of timers on buffs
And your assumption is "Jungling is boring if you're not competing with anyone"

>>377034805
Some people like the extra work to get to the fun and others don't. It's just a matter of taste and not a merit of hardcore or casual.

Games like Quake are fun right off the bat, but games like Dota require more commitment and work before the fun starts and some people like that. Shit, getting first blood in Dota can be really fun if you know what you're doing.

>>377034387
Her 3rd default skin, the one that makes her look white is good though

I like her aloof, cat-like portrait emotions

>>377034805
It's like you think you're not supposed to be jabbing at the enemy laner to try and win your lane. And you've never heard of a level 1 invade.

>>377034943
You missed the part when I said when the enemy team doesn't try to gank you.

I have all the vision I need but it's meaningless when nobody bothers to check jungle for you. Usually I just leave the jungle in an attempt to get a gank kill in the lane near me and usually I do if I have a hero with good early game gank potential like Enigma.

>literally just about to lose Hanamura map
>Zarya jumps in like a boss at a second before loss and causes the trolley to be contested
>survives long enough for everyone else to push them away while our team squeaks out the win

Damn that felt satisfying

>>377034745
>competitive
>video games

lmao

>>377035120

The payload escort concept is so much more fun in HotS than OW

>>377034668
But it gives her a see through skirt

The funny thing is that HOTS is even more complex than LoL, but not DOTA.

>>377034980
Yeah, personally I'll never understand it though. Mostly cause if I'm playing a game, I want to actually be having fun with it. I can basically play any competitive game in other genres and get right into the action right away without the lead in, so to me its all just wasted time.

>>377035109
That doesn't really change my point in any way at all.

>>377035210
The arena brawl event for Hanamura was better than the official map.

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>>377035120
>like a boss
>literally

When'll the update hit eu guys

>>377034805
>super dull shit
t. 1k

You don't know how to play on a fundamental level. It's not a barrier, it's basic gameplay. You want a brawler where you get a rush of endorphins and gratification IMMEDIATELY because you're a fucking child with no attention span.

>>377034752
Smite is the second fairest moba on the market.

20-30 bucks gives you every current and future hero.

LoL and HotS a hero can cost 10-15 dollars (without using in game currency)

LoL is by far the worst. Dota the best (all heroes free).

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Hey.
Hey, anon.

Ju want axe?

>>377035268
Your point is that teamfights are literally the only enjoyable thing about the game and you just have to stand around and kill minions until a teamfight happens. Which is wrong.

>>377035295

I'm not reddit, I'm just 32. I can't stop talking the way I used to.

>>377035370
Now if only he was actually good.

Minion system:

Hots:
Cool minions from your favourite nostalgic games, lots of variety, big mercs, cool themes from major game (Diablo etc), if enough appear it can actually get a bit epic

LoL:
Slow-moving and retarded little cartoon gnomes that slowly spackle each other a bit before cancelling out

>>377035424
>get a bit epic

See >>377035295

>>377034943
>Jungling is fun because I have to look at my map and not be retarded, while looking at a timer.
None of that screams "Fun" to me.

>>377035109
>No, last-hitting and laneing for 20 minutes is fun because you poke at other people, too, and sometimes you do ballsy all-in shit at the start on occasion.
Wow... Really opens my eyes.

Man, Dotards and lolbabbies get really asshurt when you don't find mindlessly killing minions and occasionally glancing at other players fun.

>>377034668
>The youngest hero,the same age as d.va
That explains the smugness,no battle hardened-fuckboy would be as smug as young jizz wizards

>>377035295
>literally is reddit
>when it is literally, without meming, the most overused word on this site

>>377035295
The fuck is wrong with this? You need to see nigger at every post or what? Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger

>>377035342
>You don't know how to play on a fundamental level. It's not a barrier, it's basic gameplay. You want a brawler where you get a rush of endorphins and gratification IMMEDIATELY because you're a fucking child with no attention span.

I have better things to do with my time than spend 20 minutes setting up the next 20 minutes to an hour. And yes, diving and all that other shit -still- is set up. If you call that basic gameplay, than I call it dull as fuck.

Also, only children have that much free time to waste on a single match. Me? I'll be playing games where I can get several matches done in the span of time it takes you to finish one.

>>377035342
>You want a brawler where you get a rush of endorphins and gratification IMMEDIATELY because you're a fucking child with no attention span.

Or, you seek "complexity" in video games because you don't have a complex and engaging life. Your job isn't demanding and neither is your learning. So instead of seeking out actual accomplishment in the real world you seek it from a video game.

>>377035457
That has nothing to do with "reddit", I used an english word correctly

Also not an argument

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>>377035483
>look i made up a bunch of shit and tried to pass it off as fact
>ur mad if you tell me i'm retarded for saying retarded shit

>>377033137
Is she worth 4K gold? I like THICC

>>377035370
All we need is Gorefiend, Grommash, Kargath, Nerzhul, Deathwing, Alleria, Danath, Turalyon, Khadgar, Kurdran, and maybe Dentarg and my dream roster will be finalized.

Game needs more of my favorite Warcraft.

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>>377028726
Tell me
How do I get gud at Lost Vikings?

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>go into HotS thread
>DotA and LeL players both come in to explain why it's shit
>Blizzfags resort to projection and autistic screeching when they get proven wrong
I love it, every single thread.

>>377035483
>>377035483
>I'M NOT GETTING MY ENDORPHINS AND GRATIFICATION THIS INSTANT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>WHY ARENT I KILLING PEOPLE AND GETTING THE EPIC HERO OF THE STORM ALERTS PING PING DING DING RING RING ZIP ZAP YIPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>377035558
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOW YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO SAY THAT

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>>377028726

>I'm nothing more than a Bisexual-Submissive little girl that play videos games! ... I'll tank and protect you!

well fuck me /v/.

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Jungling is quite literally just fucking cooking in League.

>Watch map to see if shit happens.
>Have proper vision of said map and important points.
>Watch the pot to see shit happen.
>Make sure you can see the pot.

>Know the timers on your buffs.
>Know the timer for your shit in the oven.

>>377035608
I didn't make up shit, though. Everything I stated is actual fact.

Wait so Medivh sucks in HotS? He's one of my favorite WoW characters...

>>377035483
>None of that screams "Fun" to me.
From your posts the only thing you seem to enjoy are le epic teamfight pentas so you probably should stick to HotS.

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If YOU are sad, tiered or depressed, playing Auriel just feels so uplifting.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Auriel/Auriel%20-%20Default/AurielBase_Pissed03.mp3

Is player level 142 good for 2 weeks played so far? Ive actually been having a lot of buzzword with HotS and didn't expect much coming into it

>>377035703
It's stupid. The game's not LoL or Dota, but that's why I play it. I want something different but in the same genre because RTS games have fallen out and this is all we have currently for clickfest games.

>>377035670
It's simply not going to happen unless you're naturally fantastic at micro.

>>377035703
Oh man, I don't know how anyone could handle being "proven" wrong on a video game imageboard.

>>377028726
>people actually think LoL and Dota 2 are comparable
LoL will last twice as long as Dota 2, it's ridiculous how many people are playing that game

>>377035420
>Zuljin
>Bad
Knife ear scum, leave before I give you axe.
>>377035786
It's not that he shit, it's just he is hard to find usage for.

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This is now your waifu. Say something nice about her.

>>377035786
He's a meme character. Works in certain comps in high tier play.

So yeah he sucks just forget about him.

>>377035754
thanks doc

>>377035786
Medivh fucking rules.
>Guy trying to escape with low health
>Not on my watch faggot
>Portal over and blast his ass
>Team can't touch me or my teammates with my shield
>Fly away like a majestic cunt

>>377035375
Even with people diving, most of the time its just little skirmishes, backing up to the towers or reteating to heal. At most you occasionally have a jungler jump one lane to push it or kill someone.

Thats still not really all that fun and pretty dull as fuck as well. It can have its moments, but more than not, the matches are boring as fuck. Even team fights can be boring if your team isn't coordinated well enough.

My point was that everything in the game takes way too fucking long to be even remotely interesting.

>>377035813
Fuck off hopeman,wasn't killing my ai-fu enough?

>>377031817
The game is in no way "skill-based". I would argue with you some are but not all.
It's not hard to land skill shot in this game, and the time to master a hero is short, making the game quickly repetitive until you decide to try out another hero. The roster of hero is also small because some heroes are better than the others, making you wonder why you even gimp yourself in the first place by picking an inferior hero.

>>377035921
Where the fuck is your vagina?

>>377031314
That adds up in a bad way
>>377032519
>Matches shouldn't be more than 10 minutes.
I feel 15 should be the bar but the issue isn't the time so much as you can get the edge for a win in the first 5 minutes and keep it to the end, meaning that if you are losing you are just stuck there for 15+ minutes hoping you can teun it around when it's unlikely you can.

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>>377035939
did someone say evangelion?

>>377035579
You're not setting anything up so I don't get what you mean. The early game is just as enjoyable as the mid to late.

If you think 40 minutes average is a long period of time and you've somehow convinced yourself that doing 'more' in that time makes it more worth spending that time then you don't understand how to enjoy time (not caring) and are truly a child.

>>377035786
Dude's situational as all hell, and even then you gotta think a few steps ahead of everyone else

>>377029526
Eh, I wouldn't say that.
One of the major issues this game had was how fucking hard it was to even get some heroes, it was jewish beyond belief.

They changed that a lot. I constantly get heroes just by opening all the free loot boxes I get constantly.

>>377035758
ya

>>377035965

This is reassuring. I'm at 9500 gold and was about to drop 10k on him after I complete the daily.

>>377035710
stop screeching and being so mad dude

>>377035796
That was the only post I ever made, retard. The guy you were originally responding to had ALREADY responded to you. I even waited for him to do so so you wouldn't think I was him.

>>377035710
>No epic HOTS alerts
>In dota
HOLY SHIT
DOUBLE KILL
TRIPLE KILL
M-M-M-M-M-M-M-MONSTER KILL
UNSTOPPABLE
GODLIKE
BEYOND GODLIKE

Y-Yeah.

>No instant-gratification
But I thought killing minions and occasionally going all-in on the enemy laner was fun? That would be instant gratification because I'm getting fun from level 1.
Which is it, cuckold? Is it fun or not?

>>377035786
He's tough to play but pretty good. The problem is that his teammates also need to rely on him to play effectively, which means random Medivh play doesn't really pay off. He mostly just corrects mistakes at that stage, same thing that a healer does.

>>377035583
>projecting this hard

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>>377036038
i heard someone saying evangelion

>>377036019
Thats kinda why I feel the matches take too long. In higher levels of play you can maybe turn things around, but often times things snowball so that the team in the lead tends to stay in the lead. Everything about Moba matches just feels like its designed to make matches take longer than they have any right to take.

>>377036018
It's highlighted in red. And it opens to release Banelings.

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>>377035921
>not Zerg Zagara

Get that shit out of here

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>>377036126
is this evangelion thread?

>>377036185
>m-muh insect with tits

I like heroes that can kill enemies quickly such as Illidan, Kael'thas, Jaina.

Would I like Zagara?

>>377035921
How can she be my waifu with no facial animations or altered mutalisk model?

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>>377030439
Mercy strikes me as a master stroke in the book of originality.

>>377036039
Literaly the first 10 or so minutes is getting your heroes up to a level where you have all your abilities.

During that time and beyond, you're amassing gold to buy items and such to build your hero to capacity.

Thirdly, during this time, you're also pushing lanes and doing little skirmishes trying to gain the advantage over the enemy team, usually in gold and experience.

This is all set up for the rest of the match. If you can't understand this, then you're the one who has the comprehension level of a five year old.

>>377029898
>go Iron Fist Kharazim
>take Way of the Hundred Fists
>Q into Tracer once
>40% of her HP gone

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>>377035370

>>377036123
>YOU DON'T LIKE THIS GAME BECAUSE YOU'RE CHILDISH! I AM SILLY!
>Wow, what, you're applying my own logic against me? Let's not project here

>>377036106

>HOLY SHIT

read this in the announcer voice and lol'd heartily

>>377035813

I'm surprised Auriel became playable before Imperius.

I enjoy HotS just because I felt like I needed a little break from the other games and some of the maps are interesting and all, but I can't deny that I miss last hitting, I really do.

Maybe not so much the denying, that's debatable, but last hitting should do SOMETHING, even if just a tiny xp bonus

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>Overbabs play HotS

>>377032069
Aside from the mandatory learning that is hero's kit and basic gameplay (map's objective, hero composition, skill shot landing) which is also present in other ASSFAGGOT, there is seemingly NOTHING to learn in this game.
The only meaningful thing to learn is timer for whatever objective is spawning and possibly, merc camp location.
The fucking dumbed down talent tree makes build for heroes samey as hell once you learn how to play that hero. Only 1 or 2 builds are viable, no counter-pick build path/branching, no NOTHING.

>>377036305
If you travel back in time.

>Warcraft heroes resembling WC3 units like Gazlow don't have their abilities like the pocket factory
Sylvanas and Rexxar do I guess. But Gazlow seems to be the weakest trying to be more like Heimerdinger from LoL.

I guess that's the downside of being one of the earliest characters from back when the game was trying to be a LoL clone more than what it is now.

WHEN WILL THE UPDATE COME TO THE MAIN SERVERS
HIGHLORD DEMANDS HIS REWORK SOON

>>377035670
Spread em out in every lane, ask your teammates to protect them and keep changing between them every 2-3 seconds to check on them for the rest of the game

>>377036294
>m-muh insect with a human torso glued to its head

I can play this game to Anon

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Post best voice lines.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Anubarak/Anubarak%20-%20Default/Anubarak_Pissed13.mp3


http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Azmodan/Azmodan%20-%20Default/Azmodan_Pissed05.mp3


http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Dehaka/Dehaka%20-%20Default/Dehaka_Pissed08.mp3

>>377028726
It's a casual moba that emphasises how shit Blizzard is. Dota was a WC3 mod. They had it but didn't want it until Valve got their hands on it and started to got so buttblasted that they try to fuck with Dota2 (Blizz has patent on skeletons and pandas)
LoL has a shitty history (Pendragon deleted the dota forums and made the dota website relink to LoL. Also some user submitted heroes from the forums were used for LoL).

HotS is just embarrassing and the Overwatch event is just a grim reminder.


HotS is fun but I don't see how it would take off as something serious. It stands out by having less mechanis than LoL/Dota. Then again Blizz has shitloads of money and drones. Maybe it's something for people who don't like mobas but want to play one

>>377036398
Your best was easily defeated

>>377036543

lol what is going on here? i am a noob

>>377036607
I want Tirion in HoTS, just so he and Alarak can argue over who is the actual Highlord

>>377028726
it's way too casual to kill even league of legends

>>377036540
Play Azmodan. He needs to last hit enemies with his Q for one of his level 1 talents.

>>377036649
>Posting anub'arak
FUCK OFF ASSHOLE
Bring back his old voice from wc3
is he dead

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Don't mind me, I'm just collecting some minerals here.

>>377032069
Boring as fuck
Tough HOTS is even more boring to watch.

when does the week 4 nexus event start? It's already the 15th, I'm not getting the quest

>>377036649
Guldan is always the answer

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Gul'dan/Gul'dan%20-%20Default/GuldanBase_Pissed04.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Gul'dan/Gul'dan%20-%20Default/GuldanBase_Pissed09.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Gul'dan/Gul'dan%20-%20Default/GuldanBase_Pissed10.mp3

>>377031964
Don't forget but they also tried to do LoL bullshit of using Gold to give heroes permament passives, like +1% health on Diablo and stuff like that.
Removed within the same week they implemented those.

>>377036038
Is there an Appleseed variant?

>>377036667
Skeleton Kang was removed because chinks are offended by skeletons, not because of Blizzard.

>>377036712
At level 20, Kael'Thas can choose a talent that makes him chain bomb chain indefinitely. It's bouncing between Rexxar and his burr.
At the end, when he finally realizes what happens, Kael starts ulting him, so he's dead no matter what.

>>377036770
Steve Blum? He's alive. He plays Abathur, Rexxar and Dehaka instead.

>>377036373
Then heroes of the bored is just waiting until you get all your talents and the only fun you have is when you're at max level, a couple minutes at most

>>377036770

He's always been voiced by Steve Blum

>>377036712
>misha gets hit by skill that jumps to nearby targets
>rexxar just cuddles misha instead of sending her away so it bounces back and forth
I'm a pleb too but this is what I got out of it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

>>377036543
i've seen more responsive bots, jesus

>>377036806
tommorow

>>377036946
I've legit seen a Raynor bot get MVP before

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>>377036801
>Collecting minerals when you could be collecting the tears of your enemies

>>377036930
>>377036908
>Steve Blum was Anub'Arak
What

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>>377036920
NO
NO IT ISNT
Y-YOU CANT TALK LIKE THAT ABOUT BLIZZARD
FUCK YUOUUUUUUUUUUU
FUCKL YOAUUUUUUU
DIE DIE DIE DIE D EEEEEE

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>haven't tried Auriel since her release and Diablo for ages
>mfw suddenly discovering how fun they are now
This 3 second reduce is fucking ridiculous. Whip, whip, heal, WHIP WHIP HEAL

>>377036904
>>377036940

ahh okay, maybe I should spend my gold on Kael Thas instead of Medivh

>>377036904
>Skeleton Kang was removed because chinks are offended by skeletons, not because of Blizzard.

I always thought that was wierd
>the very existence of skeletons is offensive to our ancestors

>>377037058
Yeah look up the WC3 voice credits. You have to use the internet though because in-game everyone isn uncredited.

>>377036543
>The Pyroblast reticule
KEK

>>377037105
Kael'Thas has one of the tougher quests but it's so good, you instantly go from like 200 dmg flame strikes to 400

>>377037058
>best English voice actor ever was Anub'Arak
Surprised?

>>377035703
I already gave reasons why I think HotS is the best moba though, and I'm someone who's only played it 1 month since the event

>Themed maps with themes from real games, like heaven vs hell in that Punisher map
>Characters from real games with nostalgia/backstory
>Maps are different
>Themed minions, more of them and harder-hitting
>Actually cute characters and waifus

It's an unfair advantage Blizzard has over Riot I Guess in that like SSB, it can draw upon other games with their own lore and beloved characters, draw on nostalgia and childhood "Link can beat Mario" arguments

I do greatly prefer Valve over Blizzard as a company in modern times as I did not like D3 or SC2, too cartoonish, so I want DoTA to do well too. I just hate LoL as it seems like the shallow McDonalds of gaming now

It also seems like first-worlders are more common than third-worlders in HoTS than in LoL, which is utterly flooded with BRs and stuff

>>377036770
No, he even voices Abathur in HotS. Why he doesn't also do Anub'arak's, I've no idea.

>>377036543

Even though I'm absolutely shit at micro in Dota 2 Rexxar is pisseasy.

>Hero marked as Hard difficulty

AYYYY

>>377036649
>>377036876
I like to think that this one is canon

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Alarak/Alarak%20-%20Default/AlarakBase_Pissed09.mp3

>>377036904
The king had a different model in the chinese version before the king was killed.
Pugna is still in and she's a loli skeleton
Clinkz is also still alive and burning

>>377037189
>best

Not when fucking Michael Bell was Medivh

>>377037105
Don't get Medivh. He relies on your teammates actually taking your portals, which NOBODY EVER FUCKING DOES.

Only get Medivh if you have friends on voice chat to play with, and if you're good yourself so you can complete The Master's Touch.

>>377036920
And whats your point? That its faster and gets rid of the boring fluff? Yeah, thats true and one of its strengths, though I still feel that matches drag on a bit longer than they really should.

>>377037219
I've been playing LoL for over a year and I haven't seen one BR. You know they have their own server, right? The only things you have to deal with on NA are the uncommon mexicans and the extremely rare chink.

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>>377028726
if your an ass man then you owe it to yourself to spend some quality time with this game