Games that were ahead of their time.

I disagree. Prime was a generation late - it did to Super Metroid what OoT did to aLttP

>>377026963
Metroid Prime on the N64 would have sucked countless amount of ass and aged like rotten milk, just like every FPS on the system.

>>377027101

True, true.

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>2002
>reviewers love Metroid Prime and claim that this is what gaming will be like in a decade
>15 years later
>games rarely ever get as good as Metroid Prime

First System Shock

>>377027460
Back in the golden age, Metroid could get game of the year.

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>recruitable monsters
>romance options
>multi-generational plot
>1992

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>>377026403
this and silent hill 3

>>377026403
Pretty much metal gear solid 1 and 3

I don't understand how Nintendo doesn't make more Metroid Prime games now that FPS became the most popular genre. Did they sell that badly?

>>377028019
>not 2

2 was insanely progressive for the video game medium as well as attention to detail and storytelling in games.

>>377028209
I don't think they sold well in japan

>>377028224
I once wrote a wanky essay about MGS2 for a postmodernism class. Professor loved it.

>>377027981
But only the story was great, the gameplay was ass and based on clunky PS1 mechanics.

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>>377028326
I thought the environments and lighting looked good

>>377028224
I meant 1 to 3 not and

Majora's Mask, definitely.

>>377028209
1. Nintendo only cares about Japanese market
2. Nintendo is absolute shit at marketing anything that isn't Pokemon or Zelda

The poor performance of metroid pre-other m is 100% nintendos fault

>>377027529
hey good answers dont belong in this thread

shoo! shoo!

>>377028209
Because they're jealous that Retro is American

>>377029510
But they let Rare and then Retro take care of DKC, that doesn't make sense.

>>377029616
than they let Rare die and get assfucked by microsoft after killing their IP and the Starfox series at the same time

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>>377026403

>>377030321

pure trash

>>377030403
why does everyone here hate shenmue now?

>>377029510
i guess thats why nintendo put retro on donkey kong and mario kart, two series more important than metroid can ever hope to be

>>377030489

I can't speak for anyone but myself, and my opinion has been consistent.

Is Prime trilogy playable with mouse on dolphin? If so how is it?

>>377030574

>mario spinoff
>mario spinoff
we deserve better than this shit

>>377030647
prove it.

>>377030574
Tropical Freeze is also better than any Metroid could hope to be.

>>377030774
I'd rank Prime 1 and Dong Freeze as some of my favorite games.
Both are on par with Super and DKC2 respectively

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>>377026403
This is the first game I managed to complete in a single sitting. I enjoyed it more than any reskinned trash game that comes out these days.

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>Online battles/trades over cellular network (at least in the Japanese version of the game)
>day/night cycle, weekly events
>moving battle sprites

All features removed by the time gen 3 rolled around then slowly reintroduced in later gens. Despite the technically unimpressive 8-bit graphics, Crystal version was a very forward looking game for the year 2000 (or 2001 for the butchered and long delayed worldwide release). Ruby and Sapphire killed all the hype I had for the franchise as a kid. They were that terrible.

>>377030102
This was the most ahead of it's time ever.
>>377030321
People like to shit on this game but it was amazing if you were really there back in the day when it was brand new. I agree it didn't age well, but at the time it was outstanding.

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>>377031510
No this game was complete utter garbage. The series should have ended at RBY. Now it is nothing but a clustwr fuck of random retarded creatures who have no purpose nor charm.

>>377031510
>>Online battles/trades over cellular network (at least in the Japanese version of the game)
I didn't even know that. Neat.

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>>377031719
Pleb taste my friend. Gen 2 was the peak of the series in terms of overall design and "charm" as you call it. You strike me as a total genwunner who has never played a game past Yellow. Take it from someone who has played and moderately enjoyed at least one game from each gen including the gamecube RPGs that Crystal version was pretty fucking GOAT. Maybe not good enough to justify purchase if you had already played gold or silver, but still a great game.

>>377030653
i have no issues with it, plays fine the game is enjoyable.

>>377033182
my nigga

>>377033182
Gen 3 had better pokemon and hideouts were cool.

>>377033208
yeah it ruined fps forever

>>377033182
Gen 5 is better.

>>377033543
>yeah it ruined fps forever
Fuck off, CoD 4 did.

>>377033543
no that was cod

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>>377033160
Yup. Was basically an early version of the GTS that saw a return in gen 4. The developers didn't think cellphones were common enough in North America to justify adding the feature when it finally saw a global release in 2001, so they removed it. But from 2000 until the end of the service in 2002, the Japanese could battle, trade, and load the Celebi event onto their Crystal cartridge using a mobile network adapter.

Video of it in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uh4sgtmDMQ

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>>377033208
>ywn experience perfectly balanced online fps with seamless gameplay ever again

>tfw you will be stuck with cash grab half-MOAB shooter for the next 10 years

>>377031719
Gen II is basically an extension of everything that made Gen I good including all of the designs. I can't fucking fathom how someone could ride RBY so hard but hate GSC

>>377033514
Gen 3 had some features I liked, but I couldn't help but feel disappointed at everything it left out from gen 2. The end of backward trade compatibility with the GB/GBC generations was also a huge blow for me.

>>377033608
I don't entirely disagree with you. BW are my favorite games in the series after Colosseum. I was just saying that in terms of design/aesthetics/lore/etc. I think Johto is where the franchise peaked. And OP was asking about games that were ahead of their time, which I believe Crystal was when you look at the giant steps back gen 3 took.

>>377033691
>>377033748
Not Modern Warfare's fault that people couldn't recreate what made it so good.

>>377034154
The problem is that they KEPT recreating the exact same game like it was the next year's Madden.

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>>377033691
>>377033748
Halo popularized two weapon limits, regenerating health, and it introduced dudebros to multiplayer so yeah it did ruin first person shooters. The games themselves aren't so bad it's what came after.

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>>377034441
>regenerating health
Actually you don't regenerate health in Halo, only your shields.

>>377033543
COD did that, shithead

>>377034575
Only Super

>>377034065
>The end of backward trade compatibility with the GB/GBC generations was also a huge blow for me.
There was a legitimate reason for it though, they couldn't get the GB and GBA hardware to communicate properly or something along those lines.

It may have been a result of that, but IVs/EVs were also changed between Gen II and III and natures were added, Gen II Pokemon imported would have needed to be wiped and basically re-created to fit the new parameters anyway. They'd be coming in with 255 EVs in every stat instead of having 510 total EVs.

>>377034441
>regenerating health
It had health packs, your health didn't regenerate.

>>377034689
Nope, Metroid gave us the first game that can have the player go both left and right as well as up and down while having a large world. Metroid II had a save system on the freaking Game Boy which was very impressive at the time.

>>377030736
What are you on about? Donkey Kong Country and Mario Kart are both great series. Also, how is Donkey Kong a Mario spinoff?

>>377031719
Die in a hole genwunner.

>>377033543
Nah, that was COD

>>377034441
All Halo did was introduce it to a wider audience. It had regenerating shields, not health.
The people that always talk about Halo ruining FPS say it as if people stopped making fun, arcadey shooters after it came out. It wasn't until CoD4 came out that suddenly every shooter had to be brown and realistic.

>>377034441
So wouldn't it be the fault of all the games that copied it rather then Halo itself?

Also, Quake 4 came out in 2005 and UT3 came out in 2007. Halo came out in 2001.

The meme that Halo killed arena FPS is just a meme, especially since Halo itself is an arena shooter. CoD4 killed them.

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Metroid Prime is just the best

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>>377034878
>the first game that can have the player go both left and right as well as up and down while having a large world

>>377035271
>It wasn't until CoD4 came out that suddenly every shooter had to be brown and realistic
It also ruined Halo, Halo 1-3 were all colorful, bright, shiny, and vibrant and Reach was brown and realistic while its colors were all ashed out.

>>377034441
Then why did all the resulting bland-and-brown shooters look and play like CoD, and not Halo?

>>377035440
>revisioning history to try to look cool
This is why you don't start a franchise with the third game.

>>377035594
*washed

>>377035734
What is Pitfall II on Atari 2600?

>>377035846
Good question.

>>377035846
Does anyone even remember that shit?

>>377035413
Fucking this. I know what I am emulating when I get home.

>>377035594
And it keeps ruining it, Halo 4 played even more like CoD and Halo 5 may as well not even be called Halo.

>>377034878
I thought metroid was mostly known for the immersive environments and aimable shots in a platformer

>>377036213
>And it keeps ruining it
343i would've ruined it without CoD from their campaigns alone.

>>377034441
There's literally nothing wrong with Halo 1. It's the rest of the shit that are at fault for trying to copy from it parts that won't even make sense in their own stories.

>>377034441
People on /v/ constantly attack modern FPS's, but don't provide an explanation for how they would make modern shooters. Pre Halo shooters such as Doom or Goldeneye were fun, but they show their age. Shooters where you run around at 500 mph and shoot huge amounts of ammo without up/down aiming would never thrive in the modern games market.

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>>377036140
>claims game is the first to do thing
>mention one from before it that did the same thing first
>DOESN'T COUNT

>>377036304
Cutting any/all forms of non-paid multiplayer and co-op was the final straw for me.

>>377035594
Halo 2 removed healthpacks though, and it ruined the OP pistol.

That pistol was absolutely perfect.

>>377036348

>without up/down aiming
We don't have to go as far back as Doom, m8. Quake was fine.

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>>377036418
>Halo 5 no split screen co op for campaign
It's like they don't even know why people played Halo to begin with.

>>377036527
And the sales and online player count reflect it. When you cut features, fewer people buy and play the game. Halo 1-3 stuck around for years because they had tons of shit to do, Halo 5 has the single-player campaign and the online-only MP and that's it. Half the reason to even use forge is gone since all you can do is play online, no local custom games or LAN parties.

I wish more console shooters had the depth Halo 3/Reach's custom games allowed for, you had so many variables you could tweak and combined with the forge allowed for some very creative game types. User-generated content adds so much longevity to a game.

>>377036485
Quake really isn't much different. You can technically aim up and down, but your character in Quake is still a gun at fixed point in the bottom of a screen, which runs around at 500 mph shooting enemies in hallways. That style of FPS had no potential for long term development.

>>377036246
That too

>>377036365
Never said it didn't count, I said who the fuck even knows about that. Some of us weren't born during the Atari 2600 era.

>>377036460
Halo 2 had a reason for the healthpack removal but COD didn't. In the future it makes sense that improvements to health in a space suit would lead to no health packs but in the present time if I'm shot, I'm not going to magically heal in a couple of seconds.

>>377036973

recent fps like cod and titanfall have been emphasising speedy movement mechanics though

>>377036213
The only thing I like about Halo 4 and 5 is that it brought back the bright, shiny, vibrant, colors of the trilogy but it's ruined by the art, aesthetics, and the annoying lighting (so much fucking bloom).

>>377035413
What are those signatures on the Prime case, developers?
If so I'm mad jelly of it and the reimus

>>377027101
>>377027448
Gen Z posting on /v/ is real