How did we go from this

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To this?

>>377020042
>bloated shitload of text with no option to at least sort it by quests
what a great example of ebin journal

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>>377020250
ebin

>>377020042
Taste in gaming evolved for the better. If I wanted to read my way through a quest I'd go play D&D with friends. Which I don't lack, unlike many TW3 detractors.

>>377020068
Spiel auf Polisch, Schwuchtel

>>377020042
One word: Console peasants. They've proably toned it down for the shitBox and shitStation. Another legendary PC series ruined by consoles. ffs

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>>377020042
>>377020068
Friendly reminder that this thread(much like the others) are all made by the same butthurt guy, spamming (and getting btfo) in every Witcher thread.

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>>377020042
>>377020068
because of this

>>377020068
Look at all that stupid HEY OVER HERE COLLECT THIS SHIT garbage
>>377020250
Retard

>>377020042
>>377020068
How did we go from shit no one remembers to one of the best games ever made? By moving on.

>>377020042
Devs have gotten more talented over the years and technology has improved.
Any other questions?

Daily reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

>>377020068
>>377021000
>>377020883
>German screenshot
>Gothic 2 screenshot taken literally today
So let me sum this thread up. You're playing your favorite nostalgia bait again, want to make some threads on /v/ but no one wants to talk about it, so you get butthurt that people rather talk about the Witcher.

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>>377021271
>Devs have gotten more talented

>>377021421
>no one wants to talk about it, so you get butthurt that people rather talk about the Witcher.

but every time people compare Gothic 2 and TW3, the witcher gets BTFO and witchercucks can't come up with anything except "muh goty" "muh graphics"

>>377021442
He's right though. One reason why the Gothic games got worse and worse. The reason is the same why OP made this thread: nostalgia and the refusal to move forward.

>>377021537
>the witcher gets BTFO
What parallel universe are you from?

This thread triggers the witchercuck

top kek, let's see how they defend their trash game this time.

>>377021723
>new post appears
>thread doesnt get bumped
Its okay OP. No need to be so insecure. Also dont start phoneposting to bump your own thread again. Its pathetic.

TW3
>can't sneak
>can't steal stuff from people's houses, NPCs don't react to u stealing from them
>can't pickpocket
>can't attack neutral NPCs
>alchemy is press one button to fill all your potions out of your ass, don't even need any alchemy equipment
>character development is adding shit like +0.5% crit chance like some Path of Exile tree
>only can use swords
>only 7 spells which you all get from the beginning
>literally 2 dialogue options 95% of the time
>GPS and batman senses holding your hand at all the time
>combat is roll,hit,roll,hit,roll,hit
>loot is leveled
>repeating swords with different name


great "RPG"

>>377020042
>>377020068
You want to know what's common with all of the so called old "hardcore" RPG's? They were commercial flops. Do you doom your game to have poor sales by doing it the "hardcore" way, just to please a handful of autists or do you make it more "casual" friendly to appeal to a wider playerbase and thus saving your game from being a commercial disaster? CDPR were smart and they picked the logical option.

>>377021938
Stop samefagging OP. Nobody cares about your shit taste.
Not to mention that pretty much all of that is wrong. Stop being so damn butthurt please.

>>377021125
Honestly with this post it's pretty much thread over, now it's just the OP crying over the pieces of his shattered ego and people who won't stop poking him in return.

>>377021125
Fucking Smashed TC right there.

sorry Gothic 3 sucked, bud.

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>>377020042
>tfw open world games are designed for people who don't like open worlds

>>377021125
>engaging quest

It's an interactive movie. There's a difference between an engaging quest which requires you to think and explore on your own, and pressing a button and watching the quest solve itself

>>377020042
i remember this thread from yesterday. lol, nobody wants to play this old ass game. there's a reason it isn't remembered.

>>377023419
if popular means better then CoD is the best game ever created?

>>377023190
Remember when you went into that village on Skellige and the guy told you to kill a monster in the forest thats killing people? But the elder came and said that the monster has always been there and just needs to be calmed with a ritual? And then you could decide what to do, and when you actually went with the ritual route you'd actually calm the monster but then realized the other guy used that opportunity to get rid of the elders and cease control of the village wanting to kill the last remaining elder as well because they don't wanna follow the old ways anymore and once again, it was up to you to decide?

No, because you dont experience good quests in your shit game. How many times are you gonna make these threads OP? They will always end the same for you.

>>377023710
All of that is an interactive movie

You can come up with the best quest story and it's still trash because it's not engaging and it's not challenging, you're watching the quest solve itself and you're there only to press a button or pick a dialogue option

Remember when I had to find out about the illegal distribution of swampweed in the city? No quest marks, no GPS telling me exactly where to go, no witcher senses making me follow red footprints. I had to investigate on my own. Explore, ask people if they know anything. Those who knew about it wouldn't tell me anyway because they don't know me and don't trust me so they would say they don't know anything. I had to find ways to get information and people's trust on my own, without the game telling me what to do. This was an engaging quest

I understand you're young and grew up on casual garbage games like this so you don't get it

>>377024198
If thats an interactive movie, then I'd rather take a hundred interactive movies over one of those shitty unengaging "walk all over the place and talk to people until you found the right person" borefests walk all you call quests. Let it die OP.

>>377020042>>377020068
After ADHD became a mainstream disorder to diagnose and the games became like the ones you shown.

>>377024538
maybe you should play the game first before criticizing it

oh wait muh graphics

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Go on witchercucks, defend this.

>>377025408
>Why doesn't the game tell me there's something there without my input

Gee carl, you sure love that handholding experience.

>>377025408
see
>>377021125

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>>377020042
>>377020068
i've had enough

>>377020042
>spends more time shitposting with gothic than playing it

>>377021253
Gothic 2 is still played and remembered as proven by this thread. How many people will remember W3 15 years later? It's just your average FOTM triple A garbage.

>>377027406
Let it rest already.

>>377020068
>Plötze

that may be the ugliest word I have ever read

>>377023165
The worst.
I wish you could follow a road, go to a village, buy a map, and it would be A MAP. A static drawing. And there'd be landmarks. And you would have a pencil to mark shit on it. And NPCs would mark shit on it too.

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>>377027602
like this one?

>>377020068
Ubisoft tier skinner box, absolutely disgusting.

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>>377027671
>kill the cartographer
>steal all the maps for free
>pay a small fine to the guards

>>377027602
The dream. I need to get a switch for Zelda so I can play a new game that gives me that feeling.

>>377027406
The entire Gothic saga barely sold 3 million copies. That's barely 500k copies more than what the first Witcher game sold.

The entire Witcher saga sold 25 million copies. Won Goty one year and best rpg the next one, with a fucking DLC. It is the most awarded saga in the history of gaming.

But no, I'm guessing that the "award" of your autism + nostalgia goggles is worth way more than that.

>>377027915
You'll have a pretty enjoyable ten hours.

>>377027825
>beat the cartoprapher
>take his maps
>sell them to him
LMAO

>>377027406
>Gothic 2 is still played and remembered as proven by this one guy spamming threads.
FTFY

>>377028027
The Witcher 3 was advertised worldwide and had a huge amount of money spent on advertising

Gothic 2 was only advertised in Germany

And also Gothic 2 came out in 2002, a time period when games weren't as mainstream and the normie casuals who are 90% of today's gaming population didn't play video games at all

>>377027602
Skyrim of all games had a few maps like that for unmarked side quests.

>>377028027
More people went to see Transformers than 2001: Space Odyssey (which flopped on release), 10 billion flies can't be wrong amirite?

>>377028027
CoD Ghost sold more copies than TW3

it shits on TW3 then right?

>>377028064
You know what, modern RPG's are like The Lord of the Rings trilogy if Frodo was picked up from Hobbiton and dropped off at Mount Doom by the Giant Eagles.

>>377027915
You can emulate the new Zelda on PC.

>>377027406
Nobody ever discusses Gothic's lore, quests, world, characters ie the actual content in the game. And if such thread does start it doesn't even hit 100 posts before it gets archived. Only time a Gothic thread thrives is if OP baits some other fanbase by comparing the two games and then proceeds to post the same old bait pictures and webms. It's quite sad really, a handful of autists try to keep an old, forgotten game alive. And fail miserably doing so.

>>377028027
HERE IT COMES !

The classic "MUH SALES!" "MUH GOTY" response from a triggered witchercuck

Top kek, I was waiting for it

>>377028126
So, which do you think has a better chance of being remembered down the line? Because TW3 reached a vastly larger number of people.

>>377028027
Things get popular, doesn't mean the quest design in your favorite popular game is above criticism. Games like Gothic have an interesting, immersive way of letting you explore their worlds and you shouldn't decry that sorta game design as simply shit people are nostalgic for. Your entire argument is fallacious. Look, I like The Witcher 3 and I like Gothic 2, but I definitely found them each absorbing for entirely different reasons and the idea that The Witcher 3 does everything flawlessly is stupid as fuck.

>>377028296
you must be new here then. Gothic 2 has been loved and discussed by /v/ since the beginning and even threads made today often reach autosage

>>377027602
The map in Gothic II was amazing. I felt like watching it every once in a while, in every other RPG I just use the navigation system.

>>377028296
>>377028094
>>377028027
>that Witcherfag damage control
Sad!

The video that triggers the witchercuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs


Similar to the "Thief vs AAA games" video

>>377028243
I only have a trashtop and even if I had a PC that could run games I would have no issue buying a switch.

>>377028516
Alright, just trying to help.

>>377028410
There was a thread today about Gothic and he didn't use a bait to start the thread and guess what? It got archived at like 70 posts.

Face it, there's nothing discussion worthy in Gothic because it's an unremarkable game that is long forgotten.

>>377028503
>That Gothicfag damage control
Sad!

>>377028215
>>377028168
>>377028331
Not him, but he literally responded to a post saying nobody will remember TW3 in 15 years. When the coverage and publicity/sales TW3 got already made this factually impossible.

Literally one of the few cases in which a sales argument makes total sense and is besides actual quality. Yet you managed to reply like the autists you are. Congratulations.

>>377028503
>damage control
Have you read the thread? Its Gothic fags desperate attempt to hold his head above water.

>>377020042
Are you the faggot who hates Witcher 3 and keeps shilling Gothic 2 all the time?
Both are great games, nobody is forcing you to play something you don't like.

Such posts sound awfully hipster in the first place.

>>377028662
and how many threads about TW3 that die with little to no replies every day?

nice bias faggot

>>377028790
Except one is a much more popular games with shitloads more threads. Stop being a dumbass hipster.

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I still like Skyrim

>>377028662
This. Nothing wrong with Gothic. But its just one butthurt faggot thats mad at TW3 for being more liked, thats trying very hard to shove it down /v/'s throat these days.
If he could contain his autism he might actually get a good thread going.

ITT: Mad witchercucks get BTFO hard and all they can come up with is "my game sold more copies" !

>>377028765
Yes he is. Glad other people catch on to him.

>>377028913
Do you know not only the people who like Gothic hate TW3?

Majority of /v/ hates TW3 and rightfully so because it's a trash game and basically everything wrong with modern open world games

>>377028675
>still going for muh sales routine

>>377029041
>

>>377029024
>Majority of /v/ hates TW3
Whatever makes you sleep at night

>>377027671
How do you know the location of things you don't know about?

>>377029212
Ask around. Shocking, right?

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>>377029212
You explore and discover them

>>377029324
I was talking about the floating question marks.

>>377028920
>"my game sold more copies" !
For good reasons. Its the superior game.

Witcher niggers getting btfo

>>377029430
You go to boards in front of taverns. There are notes from people like "we heard weird noises coming from the woods next to mary's old house" and then you the question mark pops up.
Or you get them by listening on to conversations of villagers or from conversations yourself.

>>377021125
interesting how the response wasn't included

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Name one character in Cuckcher 3: My Wife's Daughter that comes in even close in complexity

Every single thread that triggers witchercucks is the same

>witchercucks gets btfo
>"LOOK AT THE SALES!!"

literally every single time. top kek

>>377029649
Is this Nintendo 64?

>>377029613
>There are notes from people like "we heard weird noises coming from the woods next to mary's old house"

Those are usually filler, just clicking on the notice board with fill your maps with question marks, but that is technically speaking what's happening.

>ITT: Gothic fag proves once again how butthurt he is that his favorite game is redundant

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>witcherfags will never experience what it feels like to play an actual RPG

i feel sad for u desu

As somebody who actually played Gothic 2, and did so earlier than 6 months ago, the quest structure is incredibly confusing and you don't really think about it when you're playing the game. You just sort of poke around and do things, and then your quest log updates and you realize the thing you did was relevant to some quest you received 8 hours ago.

>>377029638
It was just a response from a third guy, stating what he liked about Gothic when playing them. He wasn't even trying to refute the points in the picture.

>>377024538
The point anon is trying to make is that your Witcher examples aren't engaging quests in the sense that you just go somewhere, talk to someone, kill something.
I agree with you that it's encased in an engaging story, which usually ends with an interesting choice, but it isn't engaging gameplay.

>>377030043
Are you one of these special kids who never made it past the temple of trials in Fallout 2?

>>377030140
For me an engaging quest is actually 90% story and 10% gameplay. I don't care about how much gameplay you cramp into a quest when the surrounding story is bland and boring.
You're right TW3 quests are much more formulaic and basic, but they're ten times more engaging due to the general details of the game world.

>>377030213
The game gives you quests that you aren't able to complete until you advance forward in other quests, or in the main quest, and gives you no indication of it. Call me an idiot all you want, that's the way the game is structured.

Imagine being this pathetic, spending two years shitposting about a game, obsessing over how to troll one fanbase, and comprising most of the posts on one thread with your shitposts.

Any kind anons have a link to a list of good mods for Gothic 2?

>>377030390
you can finish most quest when you get them if you know what you're doing. For example the orc weapon quest, the most common thing to do is get the weapon somewhere else and avoid fighting the orc because he's strong as fuck, but if you're good at combat you can still defeat the orc.

>>377030519
DX11 is all you need, you can also install L'hiver but keep in mind it changes the location of Lord Hagen from city hall to the fort in Act 3

>>377030424
I'm not even sure what he's so mad about. I'm sure many people who played TW3 also liked the Gothic games. At least on /v/.
I know I enjoyed Gothic 2 when it originally came out.

>>377030369
screen capped for the future to laugh at witchercucks

>>377030786
see
>>377021125

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I hate these threads because they make people hate gothic because of some autist spamming this shit all day

While Gothic 2s quest design is better than the Witcher 3s it's all for nothing as most of them are generic fetch quests in some form or another.

>>377031972
So they're pretty similar in the end

>>377032135
Witcher 3 has very little fetch quests compared to the rest of the quests though.
Most fetch quests in Tw3 are optional. Like the treasure hunts.

>>377031972
>>377032135
When there is a fetch quest in Gothic 2's, and a lot of them aren't, the fun part isn't getting the item itself and bringing it back, the fun is in figuring out where to go and what to do, and then getting to that item.

In Witcher 3 there's no such thing because you just follow the GPS on your map and finish the quest by pressing a button

>>377031972
One of the first quests in the game
>008 Access into the city of Khorinis

>Solutions:
>Steal the farmer's garment from the chest inside Lobart's house, wear it and head for the city
>Pull turnips for Lobart, after that, speak to Lobart and he will sell you the garment for 30 gold.
>Climb over the city wall
>Trick the city guard
>Access the city over the lighthouse
>Jump into the sea somewhere and swim to the harbor

>>377032369
>fun is in figuring out where to go and what to do
So bad quest design?

>>377032529
Thank you Hans I've played the game. I said most of them not all of them.

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>>377029008
The level of autism is surreal, even for /v/.

>>377032529
also

>bribe the guards
>get the city pass from the merchant outside of the city
>lie that you work for the alchemist in the city

>>377032864
He's the Witcher thread's "10 days" fag at this point. Not long until he's getting range banned as well if he continues this way.

>>377021253
I disagree with OP but Gothic 2 is one of the best games ever made. Come back when you're 18.

>>377032529
Kek, you literary played only 10 minutes of the game?
I love Witcher, but even I played more Gothic in my time.

>>377032529
>>Climb over the city wall
>>Trick the city guard
You mean bugs ?
c'mon i know gothic is good but you must admit it you are jealous for witcher being better game

>>377032529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trj64kTr0CM

>>377033238
how are those bugs?

>>377027552
It's the name a random fish. Of course it was bound to have a terrible name in some languages.

>>377032529
Hmm yes now lets take a look at the second quest in the game

>Become a citizen

>Fetch the orc sword for the smith
>Fetch different herbs for the alchemist
>Fetch wolf pelts for the hunter
>Fetch gold from Gritta for Matteo
>"Fetch" blessings from the Gods for the carpenter

>Fetch the orc sword for the smith

Except you don't just go from point A to point B on your map. You don't know where the weapon is, the guy tells you you can look for it in a cave outside of the city but the orc will destroy you if you're bad at the combat.

You have to explore and talk to different NPCs and find different ways to get the weapon. You can even go to Onar's farm and buy it from a seller.

>>377032529
>>377035880
Are these the only good quests in Gothic or why are these two the only ones that ever get mentioned?

>>377035946
play the game yourself and find out

>>377036216
So the former then?

>>377036389
no

>>377035880
So the pinnacle of Gothic 2's quests is an elaborate fetch quest?

>>377036465
do you know what an example is

>>377035880
STILL a fetch quest.

>>377035146
>>377036465
Are you just gonna forget the nuances and branchng paths to proclaim everything to be le fetching quest? You can get the fucking orc sword in like 6 different ways, including the overlap with the hunters quest. Every videogame can be effectively reduced to fetching things and killing things (to fetch things)

>>377036762
name a quest from an RPG that isn't a fetch quest then

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>i posted it again xD
kill yourself

>>377037235
eww, I wonder what it's like to be this pathetic in life where you have to make the same threads on 4chan all the time.

>>377035946
Still waiting for a gothicfag to answer my question.

>>377037556
>>377037235
Welcome to 4chins, enjoying your first day, eh?

>>377037657
>t. OP
just stop being autistic.

>>377037550
The man with the eye patch,
the missing people of Khorinis
The bandits weapons dealer
The Ring of Water
The Ornament
The Power of the guardians of the dead.
The language of the builders
The Mansions of the builders

Just few good quests off the top of my head
Package full of swamp weed
Bloody Chalices

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>>377037045
How about all the quests from Gothic, huh?

>>377037045
Most of TW3's story and side quests.

>>377038081
>tw3's quest
>follow GPS, press X at the end

Great quest design

>>377020042
ITT: Fun hating autistic depressed faggots sperg over eachothers opinions about video games.

Both games are good on their own right, If you dont enjoy something, thats that... move on with your life, there is literally no reason to even compare Gothic 2 and Witcher 3, the games and developers have barely anything to do with eachother. Getting mad about watered down sequels is a whole different story though... and im an avid shitposter on bethesda threads for example, but that is completely different thing.

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Witchercucks, can you do this in your game?

I thought so

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>>377038834

>>377039012
Savage.

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>>377038834
Gothic fans confirmed for degenerate furrys.

>>377039012
holy shit lmao

>>377038834
There's literally zero reasons to do this.

>>377039427
there's zero reason for him to repeatedly make these threads, but he does it anyway. i certainly hope you're not bumping this dogshit.

>>377039685
>anon discovers that most posts on 4chan are reposted.mp4

>>377040018
>t. OP
kill yourself.

>>377029649
COME AND THEY CAME, EVEN THE DRAGONS

>>377040116
>being this butthurt