Can we talk about CEMU? Why is it even allowed? Its worse than

cemu is an emulator like any other

>>377011172

fbpb

>>377011114
They aren't expecting a profit off of Wii U games. For fucks sake, they discontinued the console. So no, CEMU isn't losing them profit.
Fuck off already.

Fuck off autismo, go play video games.

Do you work for Nintendo or own their stock? If not, there goes your only possible reason to care.

Poorfag with gtx 1050ti here. Am I able to run Cemu?

>>377011273
>company makes games
>people rob the company
>people who enjoy company's games get less of them because they cant afford to release quality products
yeah...

>>377011283
Someone with a gtx 1050 (non TI) and a $60 Pentium ran BOTW at 4k/30FPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1fk2Mlf2JM
The specs are shown through much of the video, fast forward a bit

>>377011114
I hope more people get into it for better graphics and Nintendo fucking dies

>>377011330
Yeah, because nintendo totally hasn't been pumping out dozens of games a year for the past 3 decades.

You useless idiot.

This: >>377011273
It should be treated the same way as pirating an operating system, but why should you fucking care as just a customer? You benefit from it.

>>377011357
>toothpaste
what the fuck

>>377011114
>Getting triggered by emulation
>Getting triggered by piracy
>Caring about this at all
Go home Fred.

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>there are people on this board right now who feel the need to defend billion dollar corporations on the internet

>>377011357
My monitor is 720pp so I don't think the 44k would help but cool

>>377011330
Or they recognize that their constant gimmick shoehorning babyshit and mobile gaming isn't what people are willing to pay money for and start making actual good games/consoles again

>>377011458
>not using superior hellmann's thermal paste

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>>377011458
You can use toothpaste as thermal paste for a day or two before it dries and cracks

I was in that thread, the guy said he didn't want to use up thermal paste for a quick test

>>377011114
I can't even tell anymore if people really are legitimately upset about cemu at this point. This threads are made too often for it to be just some generic bait. I thought nintendogaf was a meme but seeing how nintenbros are literally the first to ever get upset over an emulator on this place it can't be just a coincidence.

I know this is bait, but I'm tired of seeing the shills, false-flaggers, and shitposters.

>>377011493
>My monitor is 720pp so I don't think the 44k would help

It would, downsampling makes any game look better

>>377011630
Though he should downsample from 1440p

>>377011114
Here's an idea: your argument is good enough reason for you to kill yourself.

>>377011623
There are only shitposters.

>>377011114

its not like CEMU will be able to play any new Switch games

BoTW is literally the end of the line unless Nintendo decides for some bizarre reason to start back porting switch games to WiiU

Switch is already selling good as well
Nintendo really has no reason to worry about much right now including Sony or Microsoft

>>377011114
Nigga calm the fuck down. Cemu is like any other emulator after the 16bit era - a broken fucking mess.

Nobody in their right mind would try and pretend this is the preferred way to experience games (except from in-denial poor fags and desperados).

For most people, emulators are just a way for people to sample games they might not have access to. Why the fuck are you triggered by such a non issue?

>>377011821
There will never be a game half as good as BotW on the Switch, so what does it matter? CEMU already got the only game that's important.

>>377011964
Is BotW fully beatable yet?

>>377012096
Has been for three patches now

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>>377011964

>Switch has record sales
>BotW has sold more copies than Switch has sold hardware
>still complains about Cemu ruining sales
I think Nintendo's gonna be just fine, guys.

>>377011952
CEMU plays most Wii U games better than Wii U including BOTW

>>377011114
I think Nintendo needs to fucking wise up and stop trying to push their underpowered plastic toys and gimmicks on us, and release their fucking games on an actual platform. I'm not buying a useless """mobile""" (its not actually mobile) for hundreds of dollars to play one fucking game.

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>>377011330
Emulating=/=pirating games

>>377012356
What do you use for games that require the Wii U pad?

>>377012096
No it isnt.

>>377011964

and why does that matter to Nintendo again?

Splatoon 2 and Mario will sell plenty and draw in even more people to buy a Switch

what you think just because BoTW is good Nintendo fans are going to be satisfied playing that and nothing else for the rest of their lives or something?

>>377012595
You click the screen.

>>377011114
If you wanna emulate that's fine I just find it funny people are actually donating to these guys to allow you to play the 4 good games the Wii U even had.

Some games it's more of a pain in the ass to play while emulated than it does to buy the old console and game. You're better off buying a Wii U and hacking it to download free games!

But whatever, you guys do what you want

>>377012717

How does that work if the wii u pad has seperate information on it? Does cemu give you two screens?

And what about gyros?

>>377012856
Fuck off and go try it retard

>>377011114
Emulators are legal. Pirated copies of games are not. It's that simple.

Lets ban knives because psychos use them to kill innocent people.

Using cemu doesn't make me a bad guy.

Grabbing free video games straight off Nintendo's unprotected servers does that :3

>>377012974
Technically pirated copies of games are also legal, anon.

At least in the U.S. they are, I hear the U.K. is trying to push some shitty legislature in to criminalize it; god forbid we lock up the murderers and rapists and thieves and villains, nah fuck that lets go after some internet nerds who want to play video games.

Progress slowed to practically nothing to milk the donations for as long as possible like everyone predicted. Going to have to wait forever to emulate BotW reasonably well.

>>377011114

Emulators aren't illegal, you can even sell them if you don't need things like Bios.

>>377013191
>Technically pirated copies of games are also legal
They're absolutely not if you don't already own the game or / and if you share them.

>>377011114
Nintendo has this habit of making the weakest consoles hardware-wise, the less complex the system the easier it is to emulate. So they should blame themselves for the emulator problem.

/v/ always chomps down this tasty bait.

>>377013421
Distributing pirated copies is illegal.

Downloading or having them is not.

Its an important legal distinction, and the reason why no one ever goes after the users of torrent sites: they don't have a legal leg to stand on.

>>377011114
>All of people who play Zelda through CEMU would have to buy Switch/WiiU otherwise.
Blatant lie, I'll never buy a a switch/Wii U but I played BotW on my PC.

>>377013527
>Downloading or having them is not
Yes it is if you don't own a legitimate copy already.

>>377013628
Not under United States law it isn't.

>>377011114
>Why is it even allowed? Its worse than pirating, its basically literal theft.
No, it's not. Emulation is a 100% legal practice, search the whole "Bleem! incident" on Google.

>Everyone who play BotW through Cemu would have to buy a WiiU/Switch so Nintendo is losing profit
Not necessarily. You're basically assuming that anyone would buy a dead console or a 1-game-worth (at the moment) console just to play "Open World Game #348759" because dicks.

>>377011412

Nice non-argument. Less is less, doesn't matter what scale.

I got this program that lets me steal stuff from the eshop
like it uses nintendo's bandwith so its better than piracy, i'm actually harming them
it's fucking great
my dick gets hard when i download stuff from it knowing some fat autist will cry

>>377012503

Pssh ok.

>>377011213
The only one crying here is you mate.

>>377013741
>games are not copyrighted content
Okay buddy, whatever you say.

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>Stop hurting Good Guy Nintendo!

"No"

Have you considered the possibility of absolute majority of cemu users not buying anything from nintendo if they had no ability to run games from cemu, abstaining from it altogether?

CEMU A SHIT!
A SHIIIIIT!!!
Cemu is NOT open source software, and for that reason alone, is worse than coon jizz.
>put in a lot of research to making a system emulator
>don't make it open source
Absolute disgust. I honestly hope they get hit with a C&D, just so they are forced to make it open source. And if they take it to court, I hope to God that the judge makes it so that all emulators are open source from now on.

I'm going to buy a copy of BotW before I play it on Cemu. I do feel like they deserve money for the game. I'm not buying an used Wii U though.

>>377013890
This is the best thing about 3ds/wiiu. If nintendo doesn't want me to pirate they shouldn't give me their games for free.

>>377014280
it's going open source by the end of the year...

>>377011283
You're asking the wrong question, what matters the most when running an emulator is the CPU.
The GPU handles just a bit of the work required to run the emulator and mainly takes care of the graphical enhancements you decide to use.

>>377012612
>implying splatoon 2 will sell more than fucking Zelda and convince people to buy the switch if Zelda didn't convince them.

It's weird seeing people talk about cemu as if it's illegal to reverse engineer things.

If you can figure out how something works and make your own without violating patents or copying code directly from the source material you're fine and it's perfectly legal even to sell it.

>>377014302
Why would you deem that they deserve the money for the game but not for the console?
Why not buy a used Wii U instead?
Why just not pay at all?

>>377011114
>falseflagging as a nintenbtfo just to make the nintendo fanbase look bad

well, you need the game and a wii u to rip the game to use in cemu, so it shouldn't be a problem.

assuming everyone buys the game of course.

>>377013628
In Canada piracy is 100% legal as long as you don't seed, including stuff you don't already own.

>>377011265
>this makes stealing okay: the post

>>377011283
Depends on the game I'm pretty sure. Cemu is pretty early on in development so all games will have issues, and if you're looking to run botw, I'm pretty sure everyone is having an issue with framerate. I'm getting between 15 and 30 frames, but that's console levels anyways so it's ok I guess.

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>>377011114Don't care. Too busy enjoying BoTW at 8k resolution with better shadows and the post processing AA removed.

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>>377014686

>>377014489
The game has no cost of materials and all the money goes to Nintendo (and the retailer). I want to support game development.

Hardware is selling me trash that they also had to pay for. It's a waste of money when I have hardware already.

>>377014837
That isn't 8k. Fucking Wind Waker at 1080p is less blurry than that.

Thank god they're overhauling their shader methods, maybe the resolution will properly scale.

>>377012150
>>377012596

Well, which is it!

>>377014280
Leaving aside the words from one of Cemu's Developers that it'd go Open Source if the project ever got stuck or if there was no interest in keep developing it, the fact that Cemu is Closed Source makes it stand even more inside the Emulation Scene.
What do I mean? Go ahead and compare it to Decaf, Open Source WiiU emulator that barely makes any worth progress.

>>377014598
Morally, buying the game is all you need in order to feel entitled enough to download a backup from the internet.

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>>377015168
That is 8k downsampled to 4k.
Your eyes must be bad.

>>377011172
fpbp, OP's a massive reggiefag who probably bought the dust machine that was the WiiU

>>377014034
They are copyrighted content, but only distributing copyrighted content without consent is illegal.

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>>377011114
>Nintendo is losing colossal profits and as a result, delivering less games
Stopped reading there

Nice false flag, retard. You forgot your Wojak

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>dude look at this vid of a pentium running botw 30fps
>dude you need at least i7 4960k @4.5GHz if you want to run it decently
which one is it?

>>377014676
>In Canada piracy is 100% legal as long as you don't seed, including stuff you don't already own.

Even if you seed, no one gives a shit, Canada's laws actually shield citizens from being sued for copyright infringement with a maximum cap of $4000. No one would sue for that little amount of money when you can sue Americans for hundreds of millions of dollars for merely downloading a song.

It's an objective fact that hardware exclusivity is bad for consumers.

If Nintendo put Breath of the Wild on Steam, even for $70 or $80, I would definitely buy it. But they want you to buy their shitty hardware first, to lock you into their "ecosystem". The same is true of the Xbox and PS4: they want you to buy their console so you have to get the PS4 or Xbox version of a game, which earns them money for doing no actual work.

I'll buy my Wii U copy of BotW and feel absolutely no remorse about playing it on Cemu. Because it plays BETTER than on the Wii U and even the Switch. I have good hardware already, I don't need garbage with "Nintendo" stamped on it to play their games.

>>377014837
How far would a 7700K stock with a 1060 get me?

BOTW at 1440p possible?

>>377015891
It's to make up for the fact that our entertainment and licensing from entertainment services suck.

>>377015857
High spec is only needed for doing 4k with all the bells and whistles

If you just wanna run the game at its basic level most PCs built in the last few years should be able to handle it

>>377014945
kek, very true
>/tv/, /co/, /a/, /m/ and /g/
Who's to the left of /tv/? /mu/?

>>377011460
>and on the other end, those who attack them out of personal belief, being a non supporting , cancerous, entitled faggot

where you at in between bros?

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Fuck CEMU, when the fuck is Citra getting faster?

720p to 4K is cool and all but 240p to 4K is literally mind blowing.

>>377016134
yep, /mu/

>>377015946
How childish.

Please understand how businesses work and why exclusives exist before posting again

>>377016347
shame about the textures

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>>377011114
>tfw i already did 200 hours on my wii u and am gonna emulate in a year with all DLC and best graffix

>>377016407
thank you friendly corporation representative

>>377011458

>He doesn't want his CPU to be minty fresh and cool

Nigga get outta my face.

>>377016413
shame the ground looks equal to botw ground textures

>>377016347
It would be nice, but there are maybe 2-3 games I'd play. And those that already work either weren't that great or didn't interest me to begin with.

>>377016379
Thanks. That's probably the worst part of that drawing.

>>377016347
You can wait or help in the development anon

>>377016505
not an argument

>>377015857
Any Intel CPU with a single threaded performance will work just fine. That basically means any i3/i5/i7 from 2nd/3rd/4th/6th/7th and 7th Gen. Pentium G.
The visual enhancements are handled by the GPU, I bet anything that a 750Ti/260x/360 or better will do just fine.

>>377011114
>Overusing 'basically' and literally' in the same sentence
PLEASE STOP

>>377016407
Exclusives exist to make you buy a certain console.

Once you have that console, the idea is that you'll buy more games for it. Some of those games are first-party, but others are third-party and/or multiplatform. Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo therefore don't have to put in money to develop non first-party games, but earn a part of the sales for each on sold on their console.

This is objectively correct and you're an idiot if you don't understand it.

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>>377015507
I'ts not 8k or 4k. Look how blurry everything is especially the grass. I've seen a pic of the grass being rendered properly and yours isn't one of them.

Here's a game with a similar art style at high res, notice how it's not nearly as blurry as yours despite being "lower resolution". Don't believe their lies, use your eyes.

>>377016661
I should try and get cemu and botw

I have an low end 3rd gen i5 and a 660ti.

Theres power but its getting old so it might be a good benchmark for others

>>377016661
I briefly tried BotW on i3-4130 and framerat was in single digits. Should I assume it's compiling thousands of shaders and wait some more until it's finished?

>>377016347
OOT > OOT3D

>>377016563
I'd actually say they're better than anything I remember seeing in BOTW kek. Could be the 720p though.

>>377016347
>own a O3DS
>thinking of getting a N3DS
>read this post
God damnit, this is a thing? That looks great.

>>377015857

Little bit of both. You don't want to spend too much, but you don't want to spend too little. Get a cpu in the $300 range. Emulators only run as smoothly as they are coded and of course, they are optimized for the most abundant CPUs, meaning the one everyone is most likely to have. This is why AMD is bad for emulators and why cheap old stuff is also bad.

I have this AMD Veshera 8350 and while I love it, in emulators like PSX or PS2x or Dolphin I did notice that my games would stutter and my FPS would just tank to below teens at times, while other users using lesser intel stuff wouldn't. If you want to use Cem U, get a middle of the road $300 intel cpu.

>>377016821
Original OoT would be nice if it wasn't locked at 20fps. That shit is just plain unplayable.

>>377016939
I get used to it in 10 minutes. It's not like it has fluid camera movement, you don't even notice.

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>>377016023
I was able to play fine at 4k with a 970 so 1440p should be easily doable with a 1060.
Just remember to get the shader cache files and the cemuhook files to get the best stability.

>>377016934
>get a middle of the road $300 intel cpu.

You mean a $230 i5

>>377016794
Don't bother, game is unplayable. A lot of crashes, particle artifacts etc.

>>377016794
There's shaderpacks out there, just saying. A nice place to get them is [ppoiler]/r/cemu[/spoiler].
The 9k shaderpacks is supposedly the best one to use since anything bigger will kill most of your RAM.
Alternatively, you could wait for 1.7.6. The developers are (supposedly) recreating how the whole shader cache thing works.

What does work on Citra? Is that compatibility list up to date?

>>377016642
Nor was yours.

>>377017156
>fucking up spoilers in 2017
Go back.

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>>377016825
I was the same, now I've stopped playing my 3DS completely to pick up where I left off in HD.

The 3DS' 240p displays were a crime against humanity.

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PERFORMANCE ON OLDER HARDWARE

I have:
>i5-2320 @3.0Ghz
>8GB 1333Mhz RAM
>1050 Ti (equivalent to 680, 770, 960)

On Cemu 1.7.4 I could run the starting area of BotW at 1440p/20fps with cemuhack. That's 60% speed. However, with CheatEngine's 2x speedhack enabled, gameplay runs faster and feels about fullspeed. The FPS counter dives to 12fps, but actual gameplay is faster (but a little choppier). Cemu 1.7.5 is meant to speed up performance a little over this as well.

Note: Nvidia GPUs require you to have 8+ GB of RAM, and 16GB helps. Download a 9k BotW shader cache from reddit or something before you play.

>>377014280
>go open source
>continually mired by shitters slophacking shitty forks for their pet jizzrags instead of making the emu in general better
>stay closed source
>get autistic linux pengos REEEEEEEEEEEing impotently like always

Seems like an easy choice really.

>>377016407

Exclusives only exist to sell consoles, the 360 proved that if you have the cheaper system that plays the same games as the other "higher spec'd" console, people will just get the cheaper one. Market flows show people in general give no fucks about what they play on, long as they play what they want.

Consoles are split into 2 consumers. The ones that are old enough to buy their games and those that aren't. As hardcore as we are, we are in the minority. A console NEEDS the casual market bulk that buys them for little Timmy in order to be successful at all.

Consoles and exclusives are a cancer to people like me that have grown too old to give any fucks about brand and just want to play what I want, when I want and consoles get in the way of this. Console WILL be integrated into pcs in time, it's just a matter of when.

>>377011114
>All of people who play Zelda through CEMU would have to buy Switch/WiiU otherwise.

Same fallacy used to claim whole album lost sales when someone downloads a song. The options aren't "pirate or buy" it's "pirate and then maybe buy, or don't see at all"

The only people against piracy are those supporting the pathetic "NOOOO YOU CAN'T SEE THAT WITHOUT A LICENSE IT'S MINE" view of property. Fucking sit down and shut up, kids

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>>377016729
The game just natural blurs objects in the distance.
It is true 8k resolution and my GPU usage can testify to this.

>>377017494
>360 proved if you have the cheaper system that plays the same games as the other "higher spec'd" console
Anon, the 360 was the higher spec'd console. PS3 versions ran like shit.
>inb4 B-B-BUT DEVS ARE L-LAZY MUH POWER OF THE CELL

>>377017482
>hurr open source mean anyone can commit changes

They can make forks all they want, only the best will be popular. Thats how software works

Theres a reason Dolphin is a good as it is today, and its not because it was closed source. It was awful back then because ideas established early are never challenged by fresh eyes.

>>377017635
I'm not talking about the distance. It's not 8k.

>>377017368
>already 100%d 3D Land
>can't enjoy it in 4K now
:(

>>377017698
Dolphin isn't good though.
>stutters like a bitch
>still has issues in popular games

>>377017707
BotW has a shitty AA implementation that basically blurs everything.

>Dark room
>Just a glowing screen on the desk
>Vague outline of an obese man in front of it
>Muffled *bing bing wa-hoo* from the speakers

>What do you think?
I love it, fuck this stupid exclusive shit.
If they were just a little less assholes they could easily sell it on PC and make more money than ever before. They fuck others and themselves over.

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>>377017368
Does it work good on most games?

That looks fantastic

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>>377017707
It is 8k I made 100% sure of that when I edited the config to display at the resolution,

It's 100% fact that it was running at 8k downsampled to 4k.

>>377017805
No it doesn't.

>>377018258
>grass is aliased to shit
Keep telling yourself that while you're looking at that blurry mess my dude.

>>377018179
No. Stuff that works
>ALBW
>Kirby Triple Deluxe
>Pokemans
>Mystery Dungeon: Gates
>OOT and MM remakes
>Mario 3D land

And supposedly a few other things I haven't tried like Ace Attorney 6 and Story of Seasons.

So 176 is suppose to be a lot better?

Also the combat in this video is fucking laughable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iN4InF2xzc

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>>377018398
You do know that AA can't go on infinitely, right?
And even if it could, at current state it would require performance beyond human capability

>>377018643
At 8k there would be none.

>>377018643
>AA
>talking about resolution

I think your mistaken to whats being said here anon.

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>>377018798
>I don't know how rendering works

Why do you think AA exists in the first place, idiot

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>>377018398
I feel sorry for your jealousy,
Grass is like that no matter what.
it's a Wii U game with severe limitation in draw distance so grass from a distance is not rendered well or at all.
You can see close up that it is much better than 1080p.
You wish you could even run the game at 8k to begin with. I bet your computer is weak sauce.

>>377011172
I think the main difference is that CEMU came into it's own towards the end of the wii-u's life, whereas other emulators took YEARS of the console being dead for them to make a stable emulator

when I first heard about CEMU, I thought it was a con, because this is the fastest turn around time I've ever seen for an emulator

>>377019025
Wow, you're more stupid than previously believed.

>>377019338
>jealousy,
Guaranteed I've been emulating longer than you. Some games don't properly render at high resolutions.

Persona, Okami, BOTW, God Hand, the list goes on.

>>377018980
You need AA to get rid of aliasing
No matter how high you go in resolution there will be aliasing
In fact, no matter how much AA you apply, there will always be some aliasing
On top of that, he's downsampling from 8K to 4K, which means cramming more shit into a smaller area, which in turn increases aliasing

This shit all piles up eventually, to produce a load of jaggies
BoTW looks like shit to begin with, so this shouldn't really come as a surprise

>>377019385
People were emulating nds's pokemon titles before they were even released worldwide

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>>377011114
Playable GBA emulation was a thing literally 2 years after GBA came out.
And it still manged to sell 81.51 million units.

WIIU is now 5 years old and acualy playable emulation isn't even a year old.

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>>377019516
>have no argument
>B-BUH UR RETARTED

Time to grow up you underage fuck

>>377017635
This might be a little too dark. Maybe up the brightness slightly?

>>377018179
WOW the ds is hiding some good looking games underneath that resolution.

>>377019516
You don't understand anything.
Think for a second. Why is it that only the grass far off into the distance has aliasing?
Could it be low texture resolution of grass itself? Or could it be display resolution is low overall?
If the whole display resolution was lower then why is everything else not covered in jagged edges?

>>377019847
The grass close up has aliasing. Again, I'm not even talking purely about the distance shit. The way the resolution mods work are prone to error. I'm not saying it's impossible but he isn't running the game at proper high-res.

>>377019759
Why would I argue with someone as mentally retarded as you?

>>377011114
this is the same audience that would probably buy BotW if it were on Steam

>>377013449
Nintendo care more about games and fun anon. If you want a billion fps PC, well, enjoy playing all 0 fun games on it kek

You anti-piracy fags are so dumb.
>he can play Zelda on emulator
>if this emulator didn't exist, then he would buy the console!

You dense motherfucker, if it wasn't possible to play it on an emulator than he just wouldn't play it and that's it.
You ABSOLUTELY CAN'T be sure that he would waste his money on the fukin Switch. Get over it.

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>>377020047
>have no argument
>I-I WOULDN'T ARGUE WITH YOU ANYWAY xDD

I bet your name is Gregor
You sound like someone as stupid as a fucking Gregor

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>>377020047
What grass close up?
The blades of grass next to the character are not full of jagged edges.
Also just because I am at a high resolution doesn't mean there should be no jagged edges.

I ran Watch Dogs 2 maxed out at 4k res and there are still jagged edges in that game which are easily apparent even at 4k.

>>377020262
who are you replying to? you are not making any sense.

>>377020390
>The blades of grass next to the character are not full of jagged edges.
Here's your (You).

>>377011114
I think you are beyond saving and that i would be happy if north korea bombed us all

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FIX BAYO 2 SOUND
FIX IT NOW
NOW NOW
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>377011434
It's not pirating an operating system in the same way using WINE is not pirating Windows.

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>>377013191
>the U.K. is trying to push some shitty legislature in to criminalize it
Why am I not surprised?

>>377019572
>Flashbacks of running Pokemon Black 2 at 13 fps with Action Replay cheats to bypass Anti-Piracy Bluescreen