Only a few more weeks until the FF VII remake is revealed to

>>377001513
lol

>Episodic
Dropped. Hmu when the full game is out and on sale.

>>377001596
This. I already dropped it when I heard that myself.

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>>377001513
That pic is so disgusting compared to the original.

>>377001513
>to have a hybrid battle system that appeases the turn based autists

We already got that in XV and it turned out to be bellow average in action gameplay department, so I'm hoping Nomura knows better and just implements KH II gameplay which works best

What does episodic mean?

>>377001596
>>377001662
Nice memes

>>377001730
It's not, it'll be split into parts - like XIII trilogy or a better example - Digital Devil Saga

So you want it to appease absolutely no one?

Just have an alternate turn-based mode.

>>377001513

open world will be on rails cause they cant into mapping anymore.Fuck sake nearly 10 years ago I made both ArmA and OFP FF7 world with a fucking WRP tool,it took me 4 months to complete it as I couldn't into grayscaling and used the Highwind to fly around and map the mountains.Yet an AAA company can't do the same if not better anymore,mfw

>>377002005
that's nice

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>>377001596
They could make it work if the padding is actually good. Expand on Midgar, make it a whole sandbox, have trains as means of transportation to each pizza piece, NPC side quests that dont suck ass this is hard for everyone to pull off, have more people involved with Shinra or ex-Shinra employees or Soldier.

Apply this to the next episodes as well, make a sandbox from outside Midgar until where they wanna stop the episode, make the towns semi-decent etc.

But then again we're talking idealistically here. I'm not expecting anything realistically.

>due to the reaction to FFXV, we needed to change the entire battle system fior VIIR, expect it in at least 8 years, please look forward to it

>>377001513
Nomura is a hack. He spend eternity create a games before cancelling it. He literally release no games.

>>377001719
The wait timer was the perfect system to be put in place to give turn based babies the illusion of a little pause in the middle of fast action based combat. I'm sure it puts their minds at ease that they can still go an take a piss in the middle of every fight.

>>377001513

Fuck off OP. FF was never meant to be an action game. Learn how to get a healthy attention span.

The only autists regarding this issue are the ones that can't have fun with ATB.

>>377002792

kill yourself. none of us wanted that bullshit

>>377002848
No one wants slow as fuck turn based combat anymore you senile oldfag. Play the original if your panties are so in a twist by the notion of a remake having a completely updated combat system to match the times.

>>377003009

>to match the times

These games weren't meant for you. Go play something else while you pop your ADHD medication you retarded snot nosed faggot.

>>377003009

Not that anon, but if you can't keep up with that system, you probably have ADHD.

>>377003160
>>377003176
Even Nomura stated that for this remake that he didnt want these beautifully rendered characters bouncing in line while they wait their turn to attack, then attacking in a straight line before going back to their spot. It's counter intuitive to the experience of games these days. You oldfags have no one on your side in this.

>>377001513
LOL at this fucking retarded thread. Interestingly I'm listening to the FFVII soundtrack. I wonder if they will change things in regards to that? I'm pretty sure they will considering all the other changes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1-d8FkUMC8

Shinra Company is best song.

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>>377003605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYEDnbmOcIs

>>377003605
What does that theme have to do with FF7?

>>377001793
This is such corporate bullshit you're spewing. You can't take a game that came as one piece a decade ago then split up and act like it's for anything other than profit. You give shitty examples those aren't remakes they're games that got sequels.

>>377003742
>>377003763
kek my mistake I posted the wrong link obviously. That was from the Demon's Souls thread I posted earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlfGch8mGhg

>>377002005
Autism

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>people wanting turnnbased
>people wanting to shell out 60 for an episdic game that's the same shit as the original game

>>377003846
This soundtrack is so good. It really elevates the game and gives it a lot more character.

>>377003941
Yeah I agree a lot with that. I'm pretty sure it is the same for others even if they didn't really realize it.

>>377003937
I'd like a turn based game that's got some different mechanics, but no matter what they do episodic is an instant drop until a bundle, and that's only if it's somehow not shit.

>>377003937
It's mainly the first point that deserves the most laugher. The fact that people are so blinded by nostalgia that they actually want the same slow as fuck combat system that actively hinders the experience of the game is beyond me. We're getting updated graphics, fully voiced characters, updated soundtracks and new animation for the summons...but people still want to wallow in the comfort of turn based combat that most jrpgs got rid of around 2013.

The only thing I care haven't been revealed yet. MEH

Why can't you just like both systems? Turn based and action. Only hyper autists have to be a fanboy of one or the other.

>>377003846
I'm worried. They butchered FF10 HD's remastered OST, some themes got hit pretty hard.

>>377004578
Because nostalgiafags want their cake and to eat it too. They already have the original remastered that they can play right now, but still bitch and whine about this HD remake with all it's pretty bells and whistles not catering to their wishes by being turn based.

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To be honest no matter what happens, i hope tifa is flat as fuck in this.

Seeing Tifafags tears will be hilarious and that cancerous fanbase that plagues FF7 will finally die off for good.

>>377004018
>I'm pretty sure it's the same for others even if they didn't realize it

Absolutely. A lot of people wouldn't realize that. It's not always easy to understand why something is so good.

>>377004716
Well who the fuck cares? Not like these faggots would even boycot the game. It's gonna be L4D2 all over again.
Their autism would compell them to buy it.
Would not matter if they did ever stick to their shitposts and not buy it. As soon as they announced it, they made 5 million sales judgeing from the reaction of people on /v/ and the internet as a whole.

>Episodic

Dead on arrival.

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>>377004810
>triggered by boobs
Go fuck some more ugly corpses you failed hope.

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>>377004810
I suspect it would actually have a decent impact on sales.

Square Enix's face when.

>>377004810
Shouldn't you be in school?

>>377005000
>implying

Tifafags are the cancer of FF7 and literally will accept any horseshit Square does to 7 as long as Tifa looks good, they're the same fucks that defend advent children

>>377005178
Tifafags hate AC for changing her outfit

>>377005114
>I suspect it would actually have a decent impact on sales.

Kek, when will people realize fujo's are the ones with money?

>>377001513
i hope it's turn based, what's wrong with basing combat on turns, why can't final fantasy just be relaxing and fun, why must it be a big mess of characters running all over the place?

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>>377005284
I know something that may shock you: Action games are fun, and people like them a lot.

>>377005284
Because only cucks pay to play the same game again

>>377005178
But they made her tits smaller in AC and that's not what they wanted.

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>>377005462

I agree, action games can be fun.

Unfortunately, Square Enix couldn't make a decent action system if their lives depended on it.

>>377005657
Dream Drop Distance was hecka decent.

>>377005462
People like racing games too, but they aren't making it a racing game. You can't give one good reason to get rid of the turn based system for Final Fantasy VII.

>>377006162
I like Chocobo racing :^)

>>377006162
Well Final Fantasy VII is a very combat-heavy narrative. Nearly every enemy encounter is resolved with carnage. This combat is meant to take place in real time with the turns system being a little abstraction. So making the combat actually unfold in real time helps the game be a little more digestible from a narrative standpoint.
Is that a good reason
if not please tell me your definition of good

>>377006223
It wasn't that good desu famalam

>>377005284
You already have a turn based FFVII. Why do you need it again? Because it has prettier graphics?

>>377006305
>more digestible from a narrative standpoint

The original game was turn based and there was nothing wrong with it. If it wasn't a problem there is no good reason to change it.

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>>377001513
>So they dont shit up every thread

Awww poor baby, is marketing hard for you because people don't like cherished memories and gameplay being shit on for easy money from ADHD crowds?

Even if it has turn based gameplay I'm not gonna support a episodic release or the probable shitstorm of DLC holding back content from users that should be unlockables/endgame content because ITS A FUCKING FINAL FANTASY GAME.


Yknow whats sad is, aside the paid comments/shills they're putting out there no ones hyped for this in the actual FF fanbase that's an actual older fan. It's all marketers and Kingdomfarts fagboys. Course every time you point this fact out there's always one marketer ready with their prescripted damage control lines of shit like "IM A LONG TIME FAN YOU'RE JUST SALTY LMAO STAY MAD" that they always use. When the game tanks, gets harsh reviews from people your employer didn't pay off, I wont be here to say I toldja so because it's not that important.

>>377006162
Because that's the only justifiable way to get anyone to buy the same game again

>>377006430
Your argument is, "If it ain't broke don't fix it."
Why are you invested at all in the remake if that's the case? Why are you posting in this thread?

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>>377006485
Not him but specifically and solely to make your marketing job harder.

>>377006305
This. Coupled with good character interactions and it can be quite an immersive and refreshing visit to an already established and explored story. When you bog down the combat with characters having to wait their turn, it turns what should be a naturally Integrated part of the game into a awkward vignette, separate and in its own dimension from the reality of the game world.

>>377001513
>implying it won't be a full-on action RPG
HA
This is MODERN Square Enix. The battle system is going to be a carbon copy of FFXV, or at least, nothing faithful to the original.

>>377006543
Why are you drawing touhous poorly drawn by westerners

>>377006485
But there is something wrong with the original by today's standards.

The graphics.

I expect to heard the news that Nomura has been replaced by someone else on E3. Who do you guys think will replace him?

>>377006724
*posting

>>377006921
If only they hadn't cheaped out on the world models.

>>377006932
He's not being replaced

>>377006543
Flaw in your logic
Why would they need to market or shill the biggest game of all time. You know the one that is almost at every top 10 list of games ever made?

More people love FF7 than love water at this point.

>>377006964
Oh, he will definitely got replaced. SE won't pour money on that hack again. They announced him as a director just to get some Nomurafags hype before replace him entirely.

>>377006921
How can nostalgiafags accept updates to the graphics but not combat system?

>>377007173
Nope

>>377005280
On /v/? Never, because then they'd have to admit that girls play games.

I really want this game to be good, FF7 is my favorite game of all time but hearing it's episodic really worries me. If this turns out to be disappointing, I'll just stop playing videogames forever. Phantom Pain already hurt me really bad and if this does it too, I'll be done.

>>377006953
Also no voice acting and most of the storytelling is done through text with the characters standing around in their terrible polygon bodies.

>>377007232
There's nothing wrong with the combat system.

>>377007232

Because some of us like to have full party control instead of having to put up with braindead AI companions.

>>377007338
The final FMV where they suddenly talk in silent subtitles is pretty jarring

>>377007392
Each character feels the same, that's pretty bad.

>>377007392
There's nothing wrong with the graphics.

>>377007440
>each character feels the same

The characters don't have a feel at all. It's turn based.

ARPGS a shit. Make s real action game.

>>377007392
New graphics and combat styles is just evolutionary. You cannot halt progress in one area just because you personally like it.

>>377001596
>>377001662
>PS1 had 3 discs
>"G-GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME!"

>Remake comes in three parts with objectively more content each than all three discs put together
>"REEE SQUARE ARE RUINING IT DROPPED"

You autists sure are irrationally selective about what you get upset over.

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>>377007468
You wanna try again?

>>377007629
>It adds to the charm!

>>377007612
>progress

If you're talking graphics I understand.

>>377007543
Doesn't help the characters' characterization if, aside from limits, they are nearly functionally identical during gameplay. They're all emotionless robots doing the same routine when they fight. That's not good.

>>377007615
False flag argument. Three discs is a technical limitation, episodic is a marketing decision. Everyone knows this.

>>377007696
Actually it does in the context of the time period, but today they obviously have to update it.

>>377007615
You bought all three discs at once for the price of a single game, you mong.

>>377007416
I personally enjoy having the AI roam freely as support. It gives the game alot more life and makes for a more interesting playthrough when you are not controlling every aspect of it like some hyper OCD sperg that needs to know everything that is going on at every moment.

>>377007770
The characters are characterized through the storytelling, autist. They don't need to do that through the combat.

FF7R is in development hell. Same with KHIII. And we'll never see another Mainline FF game again.

>>377003805
Guess what, if you remake FFVII in its vanila scope but just with prettier graphics, it will be laughably bad.

>>377007930
ok

I've lost all faith in FF7 remake.

Square Enix hasn't made a good FF game since 1999. Almost twenty years ago.

>>377007930
That is why Nomura is such a cancer. He release NO games at all nowadays. Just empty promises.

>>377007871
Storytelling does flesh out the characters, but videogames are a visual medium that allow for more nuance in every aspect that a character is shown. It gives far more justice to the characters if they are allowed to show personality through their fighting abilities in combat than spouting exposition about themselves every chance they get.

>>377008043
He released two games this year :^)

>>377005657
That must be why the Kingdom Hearts games flopped

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turn based combat fucking sucks dog balls, having to take an attack i could easily dodge and waiting for my turn is ridiculous, its the most PASSIVE kind of gameplay

>>377007930
>we'll never see another mainline FF game again

I wish this were true, but you know it isn't.

>>377007812
So play the original if you want significantly less content and polish.
Time and money don't spawn from thin air.

>>377007871
This is the silliest thing I've read today. Next you'll argue they should have the same character design since they're just characterized through dialogue and who cares about anything else, that's functional enough.
In film & animation each character should have their own attitude in things they do-- the way they walk, the way they gesticulate or don't, the way they look at the other person in a conversation. Unless you want a brick wall for a cast.

>>377008082
Not necessary. The game characterized everyone just fine without a manual, real time combat system.

>>377008131
>significantly less content

That would be the remake, which they've already said they'll have to cut things from the original out of because otherwise it would be too big.

>>377008093
>ports/remakes

>>377007949
>if you do a 1 to 1 remake of a great game, it will be bad
Wat?

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>>377008169

>>377008131
>implying the remake won't be a buggy mess full of cut content, just like XV

>>377008297
Didn't say what kind of games :^)

>>377008331
If you take off your nostalgia googles, you'll realize that vanilla VII doesn't live up to modern standards both gameplay and content-wise.

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Unless there is a dev who is going to surpass the turnbased combat in grandia 3, there is no point of making shitty turnbased games that are worse

>>377008281
You've got some of your wires crossed anon

>>377003471

>b-but even Nomura!!

Nomura is a hack. He doesn't know what the fuck he is doing anymore and he was never what made FF good in the fucking first place.

He has tried to fill Sakaguchi's shoes but hes just waddled around like he was wearing clown shoes. He sucks and I hope he dies.

>>377008169
>Unless you want a brick wall for a cast.
The way some of these anons are talking, that is exactly what they want. Just look at one of the reasoning they give.
>I want to be able to control them all

The cast is just a bunch of mindless dolls to them that they want to make perform every action under their approving eyes or they will have a hissy fit. They don't want nuance, they don't want anything interesting and unexpected to happen, they just want a perfectly controlled gameplay experience that in no way shocks or impresses.

>>377008475
You seem upset

>>377008425
>modern standards
Which are lower than they once were. Games don't just magically become bad over time, idiot.

>>377003471
>hurr you cant make turn based look good
Even FFX-2 had the characters move through the battle

Setsuna also does it if you want modern faggot

This also lets you set combos up as well in the games

Leave it to nomura though

>>377004810
Jokes on you faggot, flat is justice.

>>377008432
>>377001513
>FFVII
>turn based
This board needs to die.

>>377008521

yep. I am also 100% right about Nomura. He needs to retire.

>>377008425
>unironically saying nostalgia goggles

You have autism.

>>377008480
>"I want the game to make worse decisions than I would so all my party memebers look lile retards! "
All people lile you want is a bad movie. Go away.

>>377008659
Of course you are

>>377008524
I'm sorry if you're used to playing exclusively shitty games.

>>377008712
What is a good game? I guarantee I play more games of any kind each year than you have in your life.

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>>377008708

>Of course you are

Name one good thing Nomura has done for this franchise in the last 15 years. I'll wait but there isn't anything you can say.

>>377008696
>memebers
>lile
Nostalgiafags, everyone.

>>377008825
I could but you are so obsessed with hating the guy that there's no point

>>377008825
>>377008962
this 2bh you're pure autism

>>377008897

>I have adhd and want old games to change so I can enjoy them
>my standards are so low that I think all old games are bad

Youngfags, everyone.

Your father should have used a condom.

I'm glad its getting more content int the later game areas. Everything thats not on Disc 1 is a huge let down and was rushed as fuck.

I'm not glad its being split, because that means getting it as a finished bundle will be cheaper and the only way to play it because patches and more content going by how FFXV went

>>377008825
Made KH1 FM.

>>377008760
>I guarantee I play more games of any kind each year than you have in your life.
Doesn't mean much if all of them are shit to you compared to a game from 97.

>What is a good game
Subjective.
But there were many of them in the last couple of years that surpass the ones from 90s.
>Persona 5
>NiOh
>DOOM
>Yakuza 0
>Gravity Rush 2

If I was shown these games during the PS One era I would shit my pants out of excitement.
For VII Remake work nowadays it has to add much more than to be a straight up 1:1 conversion.

>>377008897
Just doing my best impression of you, you underaged fuck. Typos are important to sell the bit.

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>>377008982

>I could but won't

Thanks for proving my point, jackasses. He hasn't done anything good for this series in 15 years and you know it.

What triggers your autism about the remake? For me it's how the Cosmo Canyon theme will sound. You see, the original PSF track-in game and the sheet music that the (original) PC midi version and most fan-remixes and remasters are based on seem to be slightly different from each other, specifically this part at 26 seconds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T3srk8Dkuo&t=26s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDJu-n6SwpI&t=26s

It's a small change, but I FUCKING HATE IT and it completely ruins one of my favorite tracks. I'm afraid that the new music for the remake will be based on that sheet music and will have that change in it.

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>>377007615
>Remake comes in three parts with objectively more content each than all three discs put together
>actually believing that

>>377008480
>The cast is just a bunch of mindless dolls to them that they want to make perform every action under their approving eyes or they will have a hissy fit. They don't want nuance, they don't want anything interesting and unexpected to happen, they just want a perfectly controlled gameplay experience that in no way shocks or impresses.

Uh sweety, the battle system in the original game was fine. You just got Final Fantasy 15:Kingdom Hearts which has the battle system you are asking so go play that so you can do everything yourself while your AI companions can uniquely and unexpectedly jerk off in the background and die.

>>377009081
whatever you say m8

>>377009021

Kingdom Hearts is not Final Fantasy

>>377009049
Not the same guy but that list isnt very good anon.

Only half of it is better than past games in the genre

>>377006458
>Awww poor baby, is marketing hard for you because people don't like cherished memories and gameplay being shit on for easy money from ADHD crowds?
Big talk from someone having Alzheimer's.

>>377008825
Created dissidia

>>377009148

>whatever you say

Thanks for admitting defeat anon.

>>377006485
Why wouldn't he be? They're trying to "fix" something that's not broken. And they'll break the game in the process.

>>377009139
>You just got Final Fantasy 15:Kingdom Hearts which has the battle system you are asking so go play that
I already have, and now I'll get to enjoy FF7R's superior battle system as well. Sorry you can't join the rest of us in the modern world. :^)

>>377009227

Dissidia sucks. Try again.

>>377009049
>>Persona 5
Pretty good, but worse overall than P4 and Strange Journey. About as good as FFVII.

>>NiOh
Paasable, but doesn't measure up to Ninja Gaiden or any DMC.

>>DOOM
Shit game, worse than the original by a vast margin.

>>Yakuza 0
There are better Yakuza games, but it is good stuff.

>>Gravity Rush 2
Meh game overall.

>>377009228
whatever you say anon

>>377008998
Square Enix themselves are the ones creating the remake with all these changes, you underdeveloped mongoloid. If it just so happens that these changes coincide with what is profitable and what is the most fun to the majority of players, then too fucking bad for you. Play the remaster and long for the days when your metabolism worked.

>>377009294
wow who could have expected such a response

>>377009278

>superior

What's it like being a shit-eater?

Kids nowadays are hyperactive morons who cannot handle anything that isn't a mindless run and run, 'mature' game aimed at serious gamers like themselves.

An adventure like the original turn based FF7 will forever be lost of them, since they only want to appear cool by liking stuff like Halo and Gears of war.

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>>377009313
>Meh game overall.

>>377009294
>lists something
>no it sucks because I said so
You just proved this guys point >>377008962
you retard

>nomura says FF7 is too big to make in HD even though its a short as fuck game content wise
>witcher devs make a massive game with just as much dialogue and locations if not much much more and better graphics than FFXV and possibly FF7re

No fucking excuse, there arent even many locales in 7, you fags will defend anything.

FFXV has some good animations though

Did you guys ever wonder whether FFVII being good was by complete accident? Like the people who made it all collectively had different ideas for what it was and usually that's result in a dumpster fire, but this time it resulted in this thing that's really good

>>377001513

>implying i didnt drop it months earlier
>implying that last image of cloud hiding behind some crates like it's a fucking cover shooter didn't seal the deal otherwise

>>377009352

>the faggot without an attention span wants to call me underdeveloped
>he wants to call me underdeveloped while he admits Square is just "doing what is profitable" like it somehow means the game is going to be better

You youngfags praising the changes are pure cancer and are why games suck these days. Eat shit and die.

>>377009381
I don't know, you'd have to ask the turn-basedfags, they seem really familiar with that activity.

>>377009313
Too bad you have shit taste.

>>377001513
>Spend years talking about how XV will BTFO turn-based shitters
>XV had a ton of problems and one of the worst parts is the messy, unbalanced clusterfuck gameplay
>VIIR will now BTFO turn-based fans instead, XV doesn't count

Kek

>>377009487
>cloud hiding behind some crates
Yeah I really dont understand why they did this.

Maybe they never played the original?
You literally show up on a presumably hijacked train guns blazing killing shinra troops left and right

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>>377009416
>>377009376

I didn't prove shit. Dissidia sucks. The BP shit is dumb. The grinding on rails shit is dumb. All of it is dumb.

I'd play the new one if they bothered to release it outside arcades but they refuse.

Kill yourselves. Right now.

>>377001513
I hope someone screencaps this so I can lmao when FFVIIR has a FFXV-like battle system and FFags start miscarrying and leaking in anguish.

>>377009313
Nioh isnt supposed to be like NG or DMC, are you fucking retarded?

So Nomura is the most hated SE employees by /v/?

>>377009537

Nah m8 its you guys that are the shit eaters. Why do you think they're pandering to you assholes?

Shit sells

>>377009397
Stick of truth disagrees.

That was all people could talk about for like a month because lol south park

>>377004226
No one is asking for a 1:1 copy.

Fucking use X-2 or something, X-2 might have an awful story but the ATB there was god-tier.

>>377009615
Fuck off faglus. Go to your waifu containment threads.

>ITT KH nomura drones acting as if they played the original when they could read the dialogue boxes coherently and weren't underage faggots
>implying the demand for a remake over the years wasn't literally just people going ''Hey it'd be neat if FF7 got remade with current-gen graphics, I'd love to see Midgar like that!''

I play DMC every other week if I wanted my action fix I wouldn't look to FF for it but unfortunately Square seem to love that shit

>>377009583
>but they refuse.
They already announced a ps4 version, probably will be shown at e3 or tgs
>I didn't prove shit
You did. You have issues

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>>377009664

>>377009664
Yes, but only because that's the only person most of /v/ knows by name

>>377009767
It's crazy how quickly this literal who went from messiah to biggest hack at Squenix

>>377009762

>they already announced a PS4 version

Yeah, forever ago. By the time it comes out we'll be seeing Scorpio 2 and PS5. It's fucking ridiculous how long Square takes to develop games these days.

>You have issues

Maybe you'll understand my point of view once your favorite JRPG series gets raped into the ground like mine was.

>>377009664
Toriyama and Tabata are worse
The only Nomura's problem is that he procrastinates too much
Plus he created one of the greatest arpgs of all time, so I can't hate the guy.

>>377009836
How does /v/ know him so much anyway. It is not like he released any games nowadays that are not port/remakes

>>377009581

they're just tapping into the crisis core shit or something i dont know, trying to make it all action packed, nobody asked for it, only the KHdrones seeping through the woodwork now it's inevitably happening

>>377009508
Learn basic supply and demand, faggot. Games like Persona bank themselves on their social links and turn based combat and sell well off of that. Final Fantasy has been dipping its toes in the ARPG pool for a while now with KH and Dissidia and the demand for it shows. If you cannot adapt, go fuck off and play the original.

>>377009970
He's the art guy for SE since early 2000s.
How wouldn't you know him when so many titles say with huge letters "CHARACTER DESIGN BY TETSUYA NOMURA" on their title screens?
Not to mention that KH is pretty popular.

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>>377009883
here's some autistm for you to answer how he got to that point

>>377010197
I dunno. Am I supposed to respect the guy that keeps getting conned or the guy who keeps conning people successfully?

>>377010151

>KH is final fantasy

Wrong. You're so wrong it hurts.

>Dissidia was successful

Certainly not in the states. There is no demand for that shit here.

>If you cannot adapt

I'm probably better at action games than you, I mean I play NGB annually. Just fuck off anon. You are part of why Final Fantasy sucks these days and I hope you get cancer and die.

>>377009139
>Uh sweety, the battle system in the original game was fine.
>none of the advantages of an Action game
>damage rendered most offenses worthless later on
>no Mix

>You just got Final Fantasy 15:Kingdom Hearts which has the battle system you are asking
XV's combat was horse shit. People want an Action game on par with KH2FM, which KH3 isn't going to be because of Osaka.

You turn based retards are cancer.

>>377010259
neither

>>377009552
It's not the same team that is spearheading the project you mong. Different design choices comes a long way. XV's problem comes from Tabata's lack of vision, creativity and understanding game design.

>>377009397
>Kids nowadays are hyperactive morons who cannot handle anything that isn't a mindless run and run
>implying turn based isn't among the simplest and easiest forms of combat in vidya
>implying it has shit on Action

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>Episodic
>Action shit
>Story and Tone completely retconned to suit the god awful compilation movies and spin off games
>Music remixed to shit

Not interested one bit. It's not aimed at fans of the original. Sephiroth didn't even have that gay single black wing in FF7.

>>377010197
Fucking hack. Nomura treat him like buddies and he treat Nomura like...(fill in the blank)

>>377009462
Fucking despise the episodic bullshit, but Witcher fell for the open world meme, whereas if Remake is like a standard action game there's going to be a lot of interior environments to fight through.

>>377010176
>early 2000s.
mid 90s

>>377001596
>>377001662
"dropped" nice meme consumer

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>>377010318

>>377010426

>implying most that play action games aren't just mindlessly mashing buttons

I love my friends but they all prefer action games and they're quite literally some of the stupidest people I've ever met.

Actually, the bulk of these people play these games and think they're as good as the people that do no damage runs and the like. It's quite funny.

So yeah eat shit.

>>377009758
>I play DMC every other week if I wanted my action fix
Try it on a difficulty above Normal for a change.

>>377009932
>final fantasy
>favorite jrpg series
There's your problem

>>377010448
Vintage meme

>>377010294
>Being this triggered by ARPG FFVII
oldfags need to fucking die

>>377010687

>oldfags need to fucking die

Enjoy paying for my pension, faggot

>>377010615

It isn't anymore, obviously.

>>377009541
Sick argument, real grade school style.

>>377010493
Thats only for midgar though.

After that its a lot more open spaces until you do a little cave before junon.

Unless you think they are going to remove the fields around the farm/kalm, the midgar scar, and the big swamp. Thats about a 8th of the overworld already though.

So once again, why the FUCK does this have to be episodic when its not even a big game to begin with?

>>377009404
Katt is a qt, but the games are pretty repetitive.

>>377009397
>ff7
>turn based
What?

>>377009767
What? I thought /v/ used to like him and treated him as the saviour of FF. Nomura is always regarded as destroyer of FF tho so obviously /v/ hate him.

>>377010448

Hopefully that wing is just for muh metaphorical art but I see you

>>377010580
>implying most that play action games aren't just mindlessly mashing buttons
>implying most that play turn based aren't whoring attack and heal
>implying casuals playing casually has anything to do with the actual depth of the genre
Name a turn based game on par with Vanquish, Ninja Gaiden, DMC, God Hand, KH2FM, or even God of War 1-3 in terms of depth or difficulty. I'll be waiting.

>I love my friends but they all prefer action games and they're quite literally some of the stupidest people I've ever met.
Like attracts like I suppose.

>So yeah eat shit.
Because casuals are dumb?

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>thinks the FF7 remake won't be shit

The game is episodic.
It will be even more linear.
No freedom.
Yuffie and Vincent won't be optional.
Their sidequests that give further backstory to the world/characters won't be optional.
This robs the player of that feeling of discovering optional stuff and piecing together a puzzle.
You won't go to Wutai at a moment of your choosing, but when the game forces you.
Red XIII will talk, with voice acting and his mouth won't move.

>>377007770
>episodic is a marketing decision.

Do you think it's "instead of getting everything in 3 years time, you get 1/3rd every year" or is it "instead of paying $60 of everything after waiting forever, you can pay $21 for each 1/3rd every year and end up paying more than the holy eternal $60 but everyone knows you're just going to wait for the bundle to go on sale"?

>>377010769
>So once again, why the FUCK does this have to be episodic
Because Square are greedy bastards. Just hope this doesn't turn into a trend like DLC, open world, 'cinematic experiences', etc.

>>377010931
>used to
keyword. And only by the xv fanboys who hadn't played the game yet. Anyone who played 3rd birthday knew he was shit

How dead is this series anyway?

The last good FF was a long time ago

>>377010981
>Yuffie and Vincent won't be optional.
That was a fucking stupid idea in the first place. It really added nothing to the game especially when you have shit characters like Red XIII and Cait Sith forced on you.

>>377011087
Quality wise - in the coffin
Sales wise - still going relatively strong

>>377011006
it'll be just like Hitman 2016.

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>Episodic
So how is this shit going to work?

a) Locations in Episode 1 won't be accessible in Episode 2 and so forth.

b) Episode 2 will have all Ep 1 locations, Ep 3 will have all Ep 1 and 2 locations thus proving the entire "game is too big" is a load of shit.

you lil shit you will be drooling all over this game ones its released.

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>>377011087
>The last good FF was a long time ago

>>377011130
They ran out of time to fully flesh them out so instead of cutting them they made them optional party members

>>377011165
They want midgar to be a whole game

>>377010950

>I've never played the Phantasy Star series: the post

Also, difficulty isn't everything anon. Again, I play NGB annually and play on PotM so seriously come the fuck off this line of reasoning. Difficulty doesn't make action superior.

>like attracts like I suppose

You're an idiot. I'm better than them at all of those games and supported Vanquish at release unlike a bulk of you people. Stop arguing this poorly.

>Because casuals are dumb?

You're the casual here. Only an asshole casual would want to change shit that isn't broken to suit his tastes better. Leave shit alone.

>>377011190
Nah. Most of us got over our FF addiction / blind love when FF13 came out. Never touched FF15 and never will.

>>377011219
>fully flesh them out
Yuffie has more fleshing out than cait sith you mong, which they BETTER FUCKING FIX. I want to see more of reeve and other shit about all the cast

Vincent yeah sure

>>377010981
>to be a RPGtard
>actually giving a fuck about story in vidya
>believing 'freedom and discover' comes from busywork and not mastering gameplay mechanics

>>377001513
>looking down like an emofagget
>resting the buster sword on his shoulder like a weak ass pussy

>>377001691
>looking up ready to fight the evil corporation
>determined expression you can feel just by looking at his back
>ready to unleash a can of whoop ass with his sword at the ready

>>377011059
Is that so? I rarely went to FF thread but I do remember there are some guys that always praise FF XV to the moon and shit on Nomura or something on FF15 thread.

>>377011163 So high-quality regular releases of content that's optimized for AMD hardware and anti-optimized for NVidia?

>>377009397
Pokemon disagrees.
Dumbass

>>377011507
one guy

please don't bring him here

>>377001513
We already know how the combat system works, they've revealed it

>fully real-time
>cover system
>when in cover, you have access to your menu and are safe from damage

It's a more clever system than XV's, at any rate.

>>377011610
Don't worry, he'll show up eventually on his own autistic instinct

>>377011507
Are you talking about who I think you are talking about? That was only one person though unless I am mistaken

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>>377011332
>believing 'freedom and discover' comes from busywork (exploring) and not mastering gameplay mechanics
Holy shit, I have seen some hot opinions on /v/ before but god damn

>>377010302
>XV's combat was horse shit.
It's literally what you faggots are asking for. Changing the battle system to be kingdom hearts is the same as that time some untouchable made FF7 into a third person shooter which gave us Dirge of Cerberus.

I bet this is all Advent Children's fault for being an incredibly shitty movie. Kids just see all that anime floaty combat and barebone story and think its the greatest thing ever.

>>377011752

>tfw the only thing you liked about AC was getting to see Cloud's limit breaks in action

gotta admit, watching him blade beam and climhazard and neo-omnislash was fucking lit

>>377011752
when people say they want real time combat it's implicit they mean good real time combat
(fucking duh)

>>377011251
>I've never played the Phantasy Star series: the post
Is it deeper than the noted games? Never heard much in the way of specialty runs for it. Why's that?

>Also, difficulty isn't everything anon.
I'd hope not, otherwise turn based would really be fucked.

>Again, I play NGB annually and play on PotM
Oh, so you're this >>377010294 faggot. How good that you've managed to google one notable Action game so you can act as though you have some authority on the matter.

>play on PotM
Neat. I've bested that and the sequel without upgrades. How about you?

>Difficulty doesn't make action superior.
Difficulty brings engagement and forces you to play with a certain level of competency. Of course, turnfags wouldn't understand that.

>I'm better than them at all of those games
>I can play games better than people I claim are idiots
Good for you Anon.

>supported Vanquish at release
So did I. So you should know better than to compare glorified paper-scissor-rock with action.

>You're the casual here.
>parroting insults back without thinking whether they apply or not
Really gets the synapses snappin.

>Only an asshole casual
Or someone who doesn't care about shit genres and wants to see a spiritual successor to a good game.

>would want to change shit that isn't broken
FF7 was broken and boring as fuck, what are you talking about?

>>377001513
PSA:
Almost everyone who is excessively crying about turnbased is a memer trying to pull le most ebin troll of their lives.
Their arguments in this thread should make it evident that they are also hardly even trying.
I just want to point this out. I feel bad for all of you guys that are actually making decent points and rebuttals, and just getting memed at in return.

DON'T REPLY TO OBVIOUS BAIT, CLEAN UP THIS SHITTY BOARD.

>>377011727
>exploring is the same as looking up sidequests in guides then running to predetermined parts of the map for goodies

>>377012003
>using guides
Wait people do this?

No wonder you dont know what exploration is. I bet you think gothic 2 and zelda 3 have zero exploration as well.

>hurr master mechanics
You mean shit thats done within the first half hour if you arent a complete shitter?
Then what faggot, wheres your magical exploration after you "master mechanics"

>>377011947
NO

APPLY TO BE A JANI AND DO IT YOURSELF

TWO FUCKING SCOOPS WEEBS WIN REDDIT IS GREAT GET A JOB NEET VIRGIN

>>377011752
>It's literally what you faggots are asking for.
We wanted good Action combat on par with the KH team's previous efforts. By the end the KH team was yanked off and it didn't come close to approaching KH1.

>Kids just see all that anime floaty combat
>implying RPGtards aren't the ones that get hot in the pants over trash like Omnislash

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>>377011947
>everybody whose opinions differ to mine to mine is baiting

>>377011916

>he thinks i've googled this shit and don't love the fuck out of these action games

Just because I also enjoy classic JRPGs doesn't mean shit anon. Forgive me for being overly argumentative but I get really mad when they change shit that shouldn't be changed.

I would be pissed off if they changed Ninja Gaiden to a different genre too. Why is it so hard to just LEAVE THINGS ALONE?

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>>377012271
>>377011916

Oh and btw, here's your proof dude.

>Is it deeper than the noted games?

Depends on what you mean by depth. Most of these classic JRPGs get their depth from what actions are best and item inventory management. Play some Phantasy Star and find out for yourself, II and IV are my favorites.

>>377012271
>>377012271
>Why is it so hard to just LEAVE THINGS ALONE?
Because turn based doesnt sell, remember how much persona and south park flopped?

>>377001596
You'd rather the game spend a decade in development? Cause that's how Squeenix does things now, remember?

>>377012438

Yes. Square deserves to go under at this point. The strong survive and they clearly have no idea what they are doing anymore.

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>we are now at a point in time where summer friends are so young that they don't even like turn based rpgs, and are probably too young to have even played the original ff7

I want off of this ride.

>>377012163
>You mean shit thats done within the first half hour if you arent a complete shitter?
See, this is why no one likes you turn based fags. You're so incredibly retarded you think every other genre boils down to spamming basic attacks and healing, and that differences between enemies boils down to stats and which palette swapped color deals more damage. Then you say stupid shit like the above without thinking for a second many games force you to beat them before unlocking the highest difficulty and you don't get all your toys in the first half hour of a game.

But this is all lost on people that think 'exploration' offers the same depth as combat and stories in vidya mean shit.

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>>377012547

These young pricks remind me of women that brag about how bad they are at cooking

>Im so bad at cooking I can't even make toast hahahahah!
>I lack the attention span to pay attention to turnbased/ATB games, I need to be pressing buttons AT ALL TIMES!

Fucking christ. Let me off this ride.

>>377012547
>I want off of this ride.
don't worry grandpa we'll drop you off at the retirement home soon

>>377012638
>You're so incredibly retarded you think every other genre boils down to spamming basic attacks and healing
Every genre boils down to attacking and healing
I wish devs would take notice

>>377012718

enjoy paying for that. You'll be old too someday

>>377012271
Because with updates to hardware means updates to old profitable titles that deserve it. If you are going to bitch about things not being changed, why are you even in this thread? Stick to the original FFVII and bury your head in the sand.

>>377012638
>hurr you can never have both

Wow you sure showed me.

btw, if you think gothic 2 is just basic attacks and healing then you played it wrong.

>>377012791

>If you are going to bitch about things not being changed

I am bitching about them being changed you fucking retarded youngfag. It'd be like if we took Dawn of War and made it into a MOBA...oh wait.

>>377012638
>implying any ARPG has depth

>>377012718
don't worry anon. soon this will happen to you, too, and you will realize what an utter fool you were.

>>377012706
just find an asian woman, seriously.

>>377012638
>Then you say stupid shit like the above without thinking for a second many games force you to beat them before unlocking the highest difficulty and you don't get all your toys in the first half hour of a game.
>replaying the same content to get bigger numbers is now good gameplay

Do you like Blizzard games?

>>377012271
>Just because I also enjoy classic JRPGs doesn't mean shit anon.
Other than you having developed a taste for garbage.

>Oh and btw, here's your proof dude.
>doesn't show which specific trophies he got
You wouldn't be holding out on us, would you anon?

>Depends on what you mean by depth.
Gameplay depth. Tactically worthwhile options against varied and competent enemies.

>Most of these classic JRPGs get their depth from what actions are best
Whatever hits most.

>item inventory management
Like what most Action games do already.

>Play some Phantasy Star and find out for yourself
I'd rather spend that time playing good games.

>>377012954

I'm good famalam I found a half-white half-native american girl and she makes great food and takes pride in showing up other women's poor cooking skills.

>>377012779
Not old enough to remember what it was like playing 8 and 16-bit games with shit miditune OSTs. No one cares about your generation anymore.

>>377011610
>>377011721
Dunno anon, I thought it was some guys? All they said were 15 was perfect game and Versus is just some concept by Nomura. They praise Tabata a lot and shit on Nomura a lot.

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>>377012523
>The strong survive and they clearly have no idea what they are doing anymore.

>>377013059
ahh, well i apologize for my presumptuousness.

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>hurr turn based cant be good
You better check yourself anon.

>>377013060
>16-bit games with shit miditune OSTs
>Donkey Kong Country1/2 OST are still regarded as some of the greatest video game compositions of all time so much so that David Wise's work has been featured on countless mediums and performances

>>377012751
>Every genre boils down to attacking and healing
>what is avoiding damage
>what is exploiting the environment
>implying default physical hits are the only types of attacks

>>377012861
>Wow you sure showed me.
Given you completely abandoned your previous point (like Square will hopefully abandon turn based), apparently I did.

>>377012942
>what is Souls
>what is KH1 and 2

>>377012986
>replaying the same content to get bigger numbers is now good gameplay
>turn based retards actually think the only difference between toys is bigger numbers, and that replays are required to get them
Case in point.

>Do you like Blizzard games?
Nope.

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>>377013163
Shit wrong pic

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How will this go?

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>>377012996

>Other than you having developed a taste for garbage.

Actually I just have a refined appreciation for many genres. I've played games since the 90's. I think you need to re-evaluate where you stand in this discussion.

>You wouldn't be holding out on us, would you anon?

Nope, just lazy. Can only post one image at a time, figured that'd be enough.

>Whatever hits most.

You are ignorant, anon. Plain and simple.

>Like what most Action games do already.

Hardly. I mean kind of but its not the same. You clearly haven't played as many of these games as me so come off trying to sound like you know more about them.

>I'd rather spend that time playing good games.

Your loss. At least I like both genres and am good at both so I can make the claims I'm making. Leave shit alone and don't try to pander to people that didnt' help to make the series great in the first place.

You certainly didn't buy FF7 on release like I did. So why do you matter more?

>>377013329
>he thinks souls or kh have depth

real action games do, meme souls and press x to epic dont

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>>377013060

>i am a snot-nosed faggot that eats anything the modern game industry shits out: the post

You truly are cancer, I hope you die in your sleep.

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>>377013329
>replaying the same content to get bigger numbers is now good gameplay
>turn based retards actually think the only difference between toys is bigger numbers, and that replays are required to get them

Heres what I quoted anon since you cant even read

>>377012986
>many games force you to beat them before unlocking the highest difficulty and you don't get all your toys in the first half hour of a game.
>many games force you to beat them before unlocking the highest difficulty

And then you replied with

>turn based retards actually think the only difference between toys is bigger numbers, and that replays are required to get them


At least be consistent

>>377013329
>souls games have depth

Welp I think were done here guys, he revealed his true form.

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>>377013637
BOW DOWN BEFORE THE MAJESTY THAT IS MY TRUE FORM

>>377013457
Your meme posting has no depth faggot

>>377013839
enjoy dodge rolling huge windup attacks and hitting during obnoxious recovery frame windows. so deep.

>>377009098
Wow you are right. Pretty noticeable difference there although I wouldn't say it ruins the song badly or anything.

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>>377013504
>I am a tired overweight faggot suffering a midlife crisis that will bitch and moan about any game not being like those back in muh golden era days
I cannot wait for this game to BTFO oldfags so hard their hernia's burst.

>>377013365
Clearly has got to go unless there was a scene where Sora takes it up the ass from Goofy while sucking off Donald. Game has to be sanitized to be like Kingdom Hearts to be fun for some reason.

>>377001596
This.

>>377001581
Also this.

>>377001691
And this.

>>377013365
Just copy the bathhouse segment from asuras wrath.

>>377009098

2nd one sucks. 1st is lit. never even touched FF7 before

>>377013365
Jiggly in-thong dick physics. Like in "Mount Your Friends."

>>377014036

>he thinks I'm some OW 40 year old that eats hot pockets because it helps him cope with how wrong he is

whatever helps anon

>>377009098
Wow that 2nd one is not nearly as good, the first one felt like it had more flow between the instruments or something

>>377014036
>projecting

im 31 with a job in finance making 6 figures with a 27 year old chinese wife. stay butthurt 14 year old.

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>>377014279

>>377013373
>Actually I just have a refined appreciation for many genres.
Which apparently includes garbage.

>Nope, just lazy.
Ah, good. So you're reading to start on some higher end runs then. Will you be going for karma, no damage, or restricting weapons/upgrades?

>You are ignorant, anon.
Damage caps render most offenses redundant endgame, and I'm assuming instant death isn't an option.

>Hardly.
DMC, Ninja Gaiden, pretty much everything Platinum does, Souls, KH, etc.

>You clearly haven't played as many of these games as me
Oh, I'm more than aware of their shitty health/meter recovery item spam and their shitloads of specific status cures rendered redundant by the cure all item, I just don't give a shit.

>so come off trying to sound like you know more about them.
Yes, there is so much to know about a genre that loves idiotic damage caps, paper-scissors-rock color coding, relies on high numbers over player skill and knowledge, struts around definitively better attacks, etc.

>Your loss.
For gaining time to invest in better games?

>good at both genres
That remains to be seen.

>muh argument from authority
Neato.

>buying games at release
I'm not sure why you're so hung up on this. Doesn't make you feel smarter for having played bad games longer?

>So why do you matter more?
What does some group mattering have to do with whether the combat mechanics are horse shit or not?

So will this game sell to new audiences?

Obviously nostalgia and square fags will eat it up no matter what but purists are already feeling disdain and normies dont buy games on a whim as often. The episodic aspect I think is going to throw people off and maybe make them not buy the first part because they want a bundle like a lot of the episodic games from that one dev. The initial sales are there but htere always a big surge of interest once the full thing is funally out.

Its like netflix vs cable. Netflix puts the entire season up at once so you can watch how you want, cable forces you to wait on their schedule and still pay a larger premium.

>>377013102

you're good bro.

I cook sometimes too. She loves kebabs and steak so I make those. In return she makes great breakfast and shit like curry all the time. I really feel sorry for dudes that put up with women that can't cook.

>>377014426
Name and image factor is really all it needs.

>>377014426
Are you joking? Even if Telltale hadn't educated consumers on how episodic format can work, it would sell on name alone.

>>377014474
But do young people even care about FF anymore? W3 seems to be better received than XV for instance.

I think the futuristic looking setting of midgar and mercenary intro are going to be a huge draw for people that dont know the game. Once it hits kalm people are either going to love it or drop it forever.

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>Not remaking the superior VIII instead of this overrated first babby

>>377014604
>he thinks todays youth cares about dads and grandpas old games

I wouldnt be so sure, the fact its flashy and action based already means they dont trust todays market with an old school style game.

>>377014610
Did you not see the reaction Cloud's inclusion to Smash 4 got? On a console brand that had never seen him in a playable role before.

>>377014610

>But do young people even care about FF anymore? W3 seems to be better received than XV for instance.

Young people will buy whatever marketers tell them is cool.

>>377014690
Whatever.

>>377013457
>he's never done a Lv 1 Critical run
What a shock.

>>377013560
>Heres what I quoted anon since you cant even read
>what is a compound sentence
Those were two separate points retard. Nowhere did I imply replays where required to get all your toys.

>At least be consistent
I was perfectly consistent, learn how English works.

>>377013637
>implying Souls games don't have builds or allow for different tactics
>implying SL1 runs don't require more understanding of enemy patterns than any turn based game

>>377014610
>W3
Honestly a boring game

Cloud & Sephiroth are household names for gamers, them being attached to anything is guaranteed to draw attention.

>>377014738
And I'm sure thats what sold the game anon.

Also reactions from an audience that specifically is excited for that game is not the same as the general public boy-o

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>>377014385

>Which apparently includes garbage.

It's really funny that you think great games like Phantasy Star IV are garbage without having played them anon. Keep on being a retard.

>Ah, good. So you're reading to start on some higher end runs then. Will you be going for karma, no damage, or restricting weapons/upgrades?

Been there, done that. My favorite run is no upgrades Dragon Sword. We'd probably get along if you didn't have your head up your ass regarding genres you didn't like.

>Damage caps render most offenses redundant endgame, and I'm assuming instant death isn't an option.
>he seriously doesn't know about instant death in these games
>he seriously thinks damage caps matter that much

o i am laffin

>DMC, Ninja Gaiden, pretty much everything Platinum does, Souls, KH, etc.

Again, its not really the same anon. Read the rest of the fucking post. You ignored everything after "hardly". What are you even discussing this for if you're ignoring parts?

> I just don't give a shit.

Thanks for admitting that your opinion on the matter isn't worth much.

>Yes, there is so much to know about a genre that loves idiotic damage caps, paper-scissors-rock color coding, relies on high numbers over player skill and knowledge, struts around definitively better attacks, etc.

Thanks for admitting your ignorance. Again, why are you arguing shit you know nothing about?

>For gaining time to invest in better games?

If that's the way you cope with being ignorant, so be it. But again come off trying to sound like you know what you're talking about.

>That remains to be seen.

says the guy that hasn't posted evidence of skill while I have. With every post you make you just dig yourself deeper.

>Neato.

May as well of just admitted defeat earlier in the post anon.

>What does some group mattering have to do with whether the combat mechanics are horse shit or not?

Don't change genres. Period. I'd be mad if NG was made into a mobile phone game where you gather shit.

>>377014798
>Nowhere did I imply replays where required to get all your toys

>>377013560
>many games force you to beat them before unlocking the highest difficulty and you don't get all your toys in the first half hour

Okay.

>>377014804
A boring game that sold as much as FFXV

A relatively small rpg franchise sold as well as FUCKING FINAL FANTASY

Thats not a good sign for the franchise my man

>>377002085
>NPC side quests that dont suck ass
When niggers that make games can write gamey quests as well as the god damned tv writers for Westworld, I'll be pleased.

>>377004226
i think turn based is more fun

>>377014690
I agree. Remaking a game that sucked as much as FF8 did is better than remaking a game that was actually good, because there's more room for improvement and less worry about pissing off fans.

>>377012996
>>377013373
>>377014385
>>377014921

Do anons actually read this garbage or is it some kind of meme?

>>377014850
I don't have metrics but go look at comments on general websites when the news it, people proclaiming to not own the game being excited. It has weight.

>>377015090
Then play the original.

>>377015128
Though the only problem there is that some of the things about FF8 that sucked the most (like the plot and the characters) are kind of integral to the game, so they'd have to change so much to make it good that they might as well just make a new game anyway.

>>377015037
Are you telling me Final Fantasy is old and busted? Cause after 30 years, I wouldn't have guessed. So many franchises live 30 years and beyond, you'd think it's the norm.

>>377015189
>wahh you cant have the upgrade because i want it my way

Or like, the devs could. You know like. Put effort in and have both since the original is already made and takes no effort to add as an option

EVEN THE FUCKING ENEMY AI IS ON THE WIKI
FUCK OFF SQUARE YOU LAZY FUCKS

>>377002085
I personally think this is a good idea, but I have a potentially stupid question.

Back in the ps1 days some games would have you switch disks depending on where you are I the world. If they did ff7:re part 1 with a massively more in depth, sandbox Midgar, and part 2 with the rest of the world, could it work in a similar way, allowing you to return to Midgar whenever you want by switching blu rays? Or is that stupid and unnecessary? I guess with storage space today it would all be easily doable without switching disks.

I'm just thinking this way because I would assume Midgar would be like gta5 sized all on its own if they did it this way.

>>377007615

>unironically defending corporate greed

>>377014460
Me and my woman are in the same boat, but the other way around. I love cooking breakfast foods, but she cooks great pho and general asian cuisine, makes a hell of a homemade burger too.

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>>377015339
>Being THIS triggered by action based combat in a remake
My fucking sides

>>377015312
>Are you telling me Final Fantasy is old and busted?

I'm worried it might be, if FF use to be what other RPGs looked out for and molded the industry in many ways.
Not so anymore. Many other RPGs are infact for more ambitions than modern square

>>377015414

>pho

I'm jealous. Maybe I should start asking for pho!

>>377015401
I guess as a consumer, I should fight big, moneyed interests on vietnamese trans prostitution exchanges as a way to better effect change.

>>377015453
>hurr i cant read
Its about lazyness, not the combat. If it was better than KH2 combat then I'd be all for it.

Anyone who believes that will happen is a moron though.

KH3 mite be gud wen its out in 2022 tho

>>377015519
Does yours make good native american food? I'm canadian so i wouldn't know much about that.

>>377014921
>It's really funny that you think great games like Phantasy Star IV are garbage without having played them anon
Kind of like Superman 64. It's just a hunch, but I'm going with it.

>My favorite run is no upgrades Dragon Sword.
How'd you like that Drunken Skeleton gauntlet?

>o i am laffin
Damage caps make most endgame offenses completely redundant. That is godawful game design.

As for instant death, I'm assuming you're referring to games that don't make every boss and its mother vulnerable to it. It'd be rather embarrassing otherwise.

>You ignored everything after "hardly".
Because there was nothing after it. Just you reiterating they were different with nothing to back it up and that I don't understand without being able to explain why.

>Thanks for admitting your ignorance.
Explain my 'ignorance'. Don't just refer to depth that isn't there, be specific. Point to exactly where that statement was wrong.

>If that's the way you cope with being ignorant
You sure like throwing out 'ignorant', 'doesn't matter much', etc without giving any specifics. Why is that?

>pointing out a fallacy you committed is admitting defeat
Come again?

>Don't change genres
Why not when the gameplay will vastly improve?