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All hype, no substance.

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terrible thread

No hype, no substance

I hate all of you

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People never gave it a chance. They saw the "Hunting Season" Pass, they saw all the optional cosmetics you didn't need to buy and wrote it off as a shit "cash-grab" game.
Players didn't understand basic concepts about how to play. Trappers would follow most of the time instead of cutting off the Monster, so if you didn't get a good Trapper the Hunters game was ruined. The devs tried to fix this by letting everyone throw out the Dome, but this gimped the importance of being a Trapper. Instead you became a Tracker, just pointing the team in the right direction and adding DPS.
People didn't like the feeling of being ganged up on if they were the Monster, so nobody wanted to play it. If they did, they'd choose the early OP Wraith, killing any fun the Hunters had because they most likely had a shit Trapper. Or they would main Monster and wipe Hunters stage 1 causing rage quits.
Players eventually dropped because progression slowed, adding ranked split the player base, and updates/balances took far too long to implement.

Game was fun while it lasted though,
and it pains me to see other games try to copy the 1v4 format.

>>376998246
>and it pains me to see other games try to copy the 1v4 format.
like Evolve was the first one or anything

>>376999956
What game was the first?
In terms of big market/AAA - yes, they were the first to take risky path.

>>376999956
You got another game in mind, off the top of your head?

>Mafia3
>Evolve
>Battleborn
>borderlands
>bioshock
>gta online

Take Two is the most jewish publisher on the planet, you normal fags just dont see it and keep on hating EA and Ubi when they occasionally innovate

>>376998246
>People never gave it a chance.
what's open beta week?
and that's their biggest mistake too.
showing people how shallow and boring the game is.

also, im using 750 ti that time and running the lowest settings but still get crap framerate.
so im totally not interested in the game at all after trying it out.
before that, i was kinda hype due to all the marketing

Its a stupid game concept to begin with. They fooled so many people with the l4d successor hype

>>377000213
I dunno man, that open beta got me so hyped. It just felt different than the other games on the market at the time.
Might be time to upgrade, I was on a 760 and I got decent frames with everything on low. Not great, but when it jumped high the game looked so smooth and beautiful.

Different strokes, different folks, and all that jazz.

I played EVOLVE when it became F2P simply because I enjoyed L4D(2).
Was fun for ~100hrs and then became instantaniously boring.
As a hunter, you're just running circles until you find and trap the monster. If you're lucky a fun fight happens then, but that isn't certain. Sometimes you don't find the monster until it is stage 3 and you just get killed. Or it's a Kraken which hugs the dome and just keeps flying. Or it's a monster which has crazy shield-regenaration equipped and simply tanks until the dome breaks.
If you do down the monster, it rarely feels rewarding. Especially when you catch it off-guard.
As a monster, gameplay is much more fun, because you're basically playing a stealth game against human players. This is often ruined however due to the many tracking abilities of the hunters. As such, you just try to outrun ; which works most of the time but isn't really all that fun. Additionally, you will often have to fight against complete bullshit combinations of hunters, which are very unpleasent to fight or put out damage like nothing else.
I'd say stick with L4D2 and if you wanna go stealthy in a multiplayer game, maybe try something like TF2 with a Spy class.

>>376998246
Except those season passes weren't just cosmetics, they were for new hunters. They also released a separate pass for new monsters. The lava golem monster (can't remember his name) was also €15 when he was release if you didn't pre-order the game. €15 for one fucking monster.

It was cash grabby as fuck, and they ended up making the game F2P anyway and taking out a ton of maps, the mini-campaign mode and other game modes because they had to completely rebalance the game around said F2P. Now it's just been abandoned

I got it at launch and only ever had fun playing as the monster. I tried it again when it went F2P and it didn't have enough at all to keep things interesting. Games were pretty much always a steamroll for the monster or a steamroll for a coordinated team who knew what they were doing.

The Jewish tactics at release thoroughly disgusted everybody to the point where it was DOA

Publisher fuckups aka executive meddling.

The hype and lack of content in release.

When they re-released the game for free, the game was really fucking good. The pace was just right, character variety was good and reward system was acceptable.
I thoroughly enjoyed the game after it's rework.

Too bad people didn't give it a try and didn't give it a second chance, thus killing it.

It wasn't a bad game but they fucked it up and fixed things too late.

>>377000567
Yeah... yeah... All good points and reasons for it's demise.
I still miss the game though cause it was so refreshing from whatever the craze was at the time. I don't remember what it was, but the games all felt stale and the same.

One of those niche games that perfectly scratched my itch and I'm sad it failed for all the reasons that caused it to.

"Hey, let's play some Evolve, because damn, that game is still fun!"
-The Nostril Guy

>>376998246
>Players didn't understand basic concepts about how to play. Trappers would follow most of the time instead of cutting off the Monster, so if you didn't get a good Trapper the Hunters game was ruined. The devs tried to fix this by letting everyone throw out the Dome, but this gimped the importance of being a Trapper.

Sounds like flawed game design.

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>>377001109
Nah, game was designed fine. People are just retards and can't think about their positioning.
The Trapper needed to think about cutting the Monster off with help from the Support so they don't die. The Assault and Medic needed to make sure the Monster doesn't double back.
If you tried to coach people or help them they'd get all butthurt and say that they're doing fine or whatever. Then you'd lose the match, cause you can't trust teammates for shit.

>>377000507
F2P Evolve was the worst fighting game I had ever played.
Also I would always win when I picked Monster, and I was playing mostly Goliath.

>>377002232
If a pub game requires that much coordination between random strangers then it's bad design.

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I miss f2pevolve general!

>>377002601
All it takes is some mental capacity to understand basic positioning concepts, the ability to hear your teammates when they speak to you, or a keyboard to communicate with. Literal retards played the game and didn't engage their brain.

How is that bad game design?

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>>377002668
Every time the dome went up and I was ready for a fight. Exactly what I said aloud. Fuck me, I miss this game.

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i really enjoyed evolve at launch

but it quickly got old and i never went back

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>>377003473

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>>377003194
>yfw

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COME ON AND SLAM!

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>>377003692
>Wraith
>38 game win streak
OG Goliath felt the most fun and fair for all though.

>>377003976
agree 100%

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>>377003976
The two felt exactly the same

>>377004101
Pretty much, except Meteor did slightly less initial damage but had DoT Fire to all their skills.

Hey goy- I mean guys, come buy the new hunting Season Pass!
This will give you all the hunting DLC you wanted in this game!

>>377004331
>Jew meme
Game is dead anon, (You) can stop false-flag shilling.

Fun casual game that shouldn't have used the "games as a service" model. Awful financial model that got shit on by news outlets at the time really didn't help.

>761 people playing right now
It's actually more than I expected. Games was pretty fun with friends.

>>377004579
Well now, it still probably beats battleborn.

>>377004579
>>761 people playing right now
More than >>377004680
bitch beat me to it

>>377004179
Oh what I thought it was taken offline.
Huh. Not going to reinstall it or anything though.

>>377004804
You mean the servers? Maybe, dunno about anything specific pertaining to patch notes cause I uninstalled months ago as well.
This thread has me itching to play it again though so that's what I'm gunna try to do.

It was pretty fun but that wraith bitch ruined the fucking game.

>>377001109
lmao get a load of this fag that needs to hold hands through a semi difficult game

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>>377005350
She definitely ruined it in the infancy of release. Damn devs took too long to patch and it put too many players off.

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Slim is the most fun character in the game

>>377003776
Faggot that is not a come on and slam

>>377000036
The Hidden
Zombie Master

THEY TRIED TO MAKE A SHITTY ESPORTS GAME RATHER THAN MAKE A FUN GAME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M4RwGwQslM

>>376997380
It was designed for dlc first.
Gameplay second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7tLir6YO3M

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>>377006975
Straight outta Borderlands 2

>>377006758
it was still a really good esports game though, i watched all the ESL's for it

>>376997380
Reminder that service games are cancer.

>>377006637
i have no idea why you said zombie master but i loved it when it was popular

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>>377006637
>two Half-life 2 Source mods
So no actual 1v4 games? Just mods of already existing games that's just the "Hide and Seek" and "Attrition" gametype.
Evolve based their game on "Hide and Seek" as well; but the devs built the game around the 1v4 gameplay.

Full price asymmetrical pvp game with already planned dlc

>>377007380
They don't count because they're made on the Source engine? You know Evolve was made on CryEngine, right?

>>377007565
They don't count because they're mods, not actual release of games.
They don't count because they're not solely 1v4, which is what I was asking for.

No, I would not consider them a decent answer.

>>376998246
this 100%

The only problem was the dumb marketing that made it seem like there was a ton of day 1 dlc, and it being a bit overpriced

>>377000597
>>377006925
It didn't actually have any day 1 dlc other then cosmetics. They just titled everything in the most misleading way possible (for example, the unlock shortcuts looked like actual DLC instead of just being unlock shortcuts, and the pre-order for the down the line content was worded in such a way that it seemed like it was out then) and it made it seem like it did

>>377007684
I don't understand. Are you saying that it is impossible for Turtle Rock to take inspiration from those games because they're slightly different?

>>376997380
Game doesn't have enough/good combat. Just running around

>devs release quantum caira, which uses aoe fields to heal like 20% more over 5 seconds in a small field with one less grenade(eventually 2 less since Ciara was buffed)
>everyone instantly recognizes her as being shit and only somewhat ok against kraken because it basically only has 3 abilities, one of which is neutered by her shitty combat grenades
>devs refuse to recognize that she's shit
>they release battle Cabot or whatever later
>also is fucking retarded from a design standpoint
I have no clue what they were thinking towards the end

>>376998246
I played it - 600 hours or so.

It was a fun game but the 4v1 mechanic doesn't work properly.

>still playable
>free

Huh, I should try doing one of those /v/eekend things that smash guys do

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It had the most fun medic I've ever played. RIP Evolve, you werent as bad as everyone said you were.

>>377008648
>caira
>fun

Slim here, you are smalltime

>>377007859
I'm saying that they were the first to try a game based solely on 1v4 gameplay; and even shut down players when they asked for 2v4, 2v8, or even 1 Hunter vs 4 tiny Monsters. They knew what they wanted to make, and focused on that.
Asymmetrical games have been done before. Hide and Seek has been done before. However, Turtle Rock I'd consider the first to try and innovate along those avenues by combining them and designing a game around the 1v4 Asymmetrical Hide and Seek formula.

I'm sure they took inspiration from other games, specifics I don't know nor care about. My original statement still stands, and I'll try to elaborate:
It pains me to see other games try to copy the 1v4 format, because Evolve was the original and I sincerely enjoyed the setting/lore/gameplay. The game deserved better and the concept was solid, but the support wasn't in their favor.

Games like Dead by Daylight (1v4), Friday the 13th: The Game (1v6), White Noise 2 (1v4), and I'm sure other games are trying to copy the 1v4 Asymmetrical Hide and Seek gameplay that Evolve laid the foundations for.

>>377009020
I stopped playing before Slim was released so no idea how good he is.

>>377009180
He's fun if you like being an annoying shit.

>>377008476
Just under 500 hours here.
Asymmetrical is just so hard to balance correctly because players will always bitch about something, someone, or nothing at all except to bitch. Plus, who do you balance for? The new players, average players, pros, what the devs think is best? So many variables to consider.

That's why devs stick mostly to keeping everyone on a similar playing field, other than experience. You put more hours into the game and you get better stuff, but the better stuff is still balanced and available to everyone who wants to/is able to use it.

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They never got the gameplay to be actually balanced and fun.

If any of want to see what an actually good 'many humans vs one monster' game plays like, look up 'Hidden: Source'

>>377009290
No, the problem in every game is that the monster has only himself therefore 4x less chance to fuck something up. The hunters are 4 and if just 1 person does something stupid/goes afk/disconnects whatever you lose. As the monster you are only yourself.

>>377009424
That too.
Player error is a big problem if the players don't understand that they fucked up or aren't as skilled, and instead blame the game for being unbalanced.

>>377009424
The monster's errors are also 4x as impactful as the humans' errors. If the monster accidentally messes up a jump he can lose the game outright, if one of the humans misses a jump he goes 'oops' and his team has 2-3 seconds of less DPS/healing

>>377009657
No. The team needs the 4 hunters to work and even then you can still lose when the monster manages to split one up or so.

>>377009038
Yeah okay.
4 tiny monsters v 1 hunter sounds mad fun though

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>>377007039
>ywn crawl up wraith's ass

>>377009870
Wasted potential, so much fun could've been had.

>>377009038
Name a single other 1v4 game named EVOLVE made by Turtle rock, You cant I win. lol fg

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>>377010346
Evolve: Stage 2

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>>377010469
lol'd

>>377010346
>>377010469
>samefagging

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>>377010662
nigga you wish, anon got told

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>monsters too strong in low ranks
>hunters too strong in high ranks
>Graphically demanding
>horrible single-player content
>extremely unfriendly towards new players
>devs constantly favoring the veteran part of the community
>Very bad approach to balancing things, trashing hunters people loved
>Wraith being wraith
>mediocre content updates

Yeah, no wonder it tanked. There is a gorillion FUN online games out there, why would people care about Evolve when it lacks on so many areas. I don't even know why I stayed till the bitter end