PC bros have exposed Bayonetta as a mediocre game

your a mediocre game

Can't we have a Bayo thread without starting with a bait anymore?

Oh well, anyway, I wanted to ask something. I noticed that witch time duration is wildly inconsistent, sometimes I only manage to get a hit or two, and sometimes I'm able to do an entire combo finishing with a wicked weave. What gives?

>>376990610
Bayonetta is a good game, fuck off. It's just 7 fucking years old. Spectacle fighters since then have built off it's formula

>>376990808
It lasts longer the more damage you're doing to an opponent while in Witch Time and it's also based on how damaging the attack is that you dodged iirc

>>376990610
>guy who plays on a PC doesn't like game
Who the fuck cares, you didn't even give any analysis or insight, you just dumped off your vapid opinion like we give a shit

Consoleros love to overhype their mediocre games while they are exclusive

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>>376990610
you shame us with your idiotic opinion.I rather enjoyed it.Pretty excited for vanquish.

>>376991007
Goes both ways

>>376990610
Why are the environments in Platinum games so boring to play through?

>>376990845
dmc3 and 4 are better, age is no excuse

>>376990610
Based pc bros working the console kiddies

how autistic do you even have to be to say "PC bros"

where's the mod to remove qtes

>>376990918
Ah I see. I had my suspicious about the former. The latter though is news to me, but I guess I can't really control what attacks enemies use.

Another thing. I've just learned yesterday that there's a trinket, which lets me trigger witch time on demand, that is unlocked by speedrunning the game.
But I have already started my platinum run, I have platinum awards in like ten chapters already. But as you can imagine, getting a platinum requires much more time, because of hidden verses and platinuming Alfheims.

How should I go about unlocking that accessory? It won't remain unlocked if I do it on another save file, will it? Can I get it by sprinting through Hard mode?

crying wojak and perceived struggle

>Shitty enemy variation
>Tedious bosses with way too long health bars
>Boring cutscenes every 5 minutes

Consolefag shit taste confirmed (for the 100th time)

>>376991156
I think you can save up to a million halos and use the telephones in chapter 2 to unlock it if you don't want to finish the game in under 3 hours

>>376991257
forgot
>reused levels

>>376991273
Isn't that cheating? Like the achievement shop in Automata. I'd rather do it legit. I would have probably done that easily, if I knew about it before attempting to unlock Jeanne.

>>376991257
I'm gonna post this exact post in other threads about other games to milk replies

>>376990610
You're right to be honest. Vanquish will probably be just as mediocre. Consolebros overhype the shit out of their games. Especially regarding Platinum.

>>376990610
I loved the game when I only had access to the PS4 version, I'm liking the game even better now.

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>>376990610
???

>>376991117
>4 are better
No.

>>376991559
>reviews dictate quality now
Guess we should stop making games since we have Skyrim.

Some of the laziest bait I've ever seen ITT. Is this falseflagging?

>>376991589
I guess it's safe to just ignore your
>It is objectively a 5 or maybe 6 out of 10.
review and have a proper Bayo thread then.

Is there a mod to disable the qte deaths yet?

>>376991429
>Consolebros overhype the shit out of their games
they have to
how else they will justify buying something for 400$ with no games

>>376991589
No we should stop making games because Bloodborne is already released.

>>376991705
That would be best since Bayonetta is objectively garbage and with a little tweaking Skyrim ironically ends up having better gameplay anyway, which is the one thing Mayonettafags try to rely on to shill their QTE garbage.

>>376991714
Yes it's called the stay awake mod.

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>>376991715
>buy expensive "gaming console"
>you have to additionally buy games for it to be useful
consoleniggers confirmed eternally cucked

>>376991714
If you're so shit at the game the QTEs kill, removing them won't really improve your ratings.

>>376991705
OK I'll start

BAYONETTA IS MUH WAIFU

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>>376991589
Skyrim is a good game though. What are you talking about?

Folks on /v/ like watchin pre rec it seems. You give yourselves away by saying the exact same things they say in their review.

>>376991793
No amount of mods can make Skyrim's combat good.

>>376991917
At least it's not ridden with QTE garbage and is a bit deeper than "mash Y to watch pretty animations for 10 minutes"

Don't you have a shit minigame chapter to be playing?

>>376990845
That's the problem. It's a spectacle, not a solid action game. A mess of god-awful qtes and intrusive cutscenes. Sometimes there are several fucking cutscenes in the mddle of a fucking bossfight. It's a fucking travesty, it's everything a game should not be.

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>>376991816
>>376991849
>defending QTEs

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>Bayo bait threads are now a daily thing.

I thought it was decent the first time I played it then when I started replaying it I loved it.

>>376991817
You don't buy games? Were you broke before or after you built your """gaming rig"""?

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>>376991880
You can have her. I'm calling dips on Jeanne!

>>376991959
>being unable to press a button on a visual que

How is it any different that pressing the roll button in Dark Souls when you see a swing comming toward you

The cutscenes in bayonetta are so fucking long.

>>376992046
how many QTEs do you think it would take to have sexual intercourse with jeanne if she were your wife

>>376991817
He doesn't cause his parents buy them for him

>>376991958
It's also almost 10 years old now and newer games are made better off of it. If you're ""criticizing"" it with modern standards then you should go and ruin the nostalgia threads too you spaz.

>>376991917
You don't need mods. Skyrim's combat is already good. Just stop being an idiot who thinks that Dual Cast Impact Destruction is all you do.

So like I downloaded Bayonetta today (pirated of course)

And I got to the main menu

You getting this

And like it told me to press Y+B

Get it

Cus that's all you do in the entire game

>>376991951
95% of the game's combat isn't just boss executions though, it's mainly dodging at the last second and juggling enemies via combos.

Try actually playing the game next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKtePkxZe70

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>>376991959
>failing QTEs

>>376992090
>Smash O to not cum early
>New scenes are unlocked after 1 minute
Would buy

>>376992175
>95% of the game is just QTEs
Yes I know, I've played it longer and for more years than you have

>>376992252
Alright, sorry about your brain cancer then.

>>376992141
Count how old Kamiya's own original DMC is and it's still near-perfect. Christ, the original Castlevania is near perfect and it's 31 years old. You dimwitted piece of shit.

>>376992151
Destruction is so weak it's not even funny

>a few years back people compared Bayonetta to DMC3 and debated which game is better
I'm glad the Bayonetta meme is finally exposed since PC players are the only objective party to judge games.

OH WHAT A DAY

>>376992305
Same to you for defending QTE garbage with the excuse of being """"""""""""deep"""""""""

Which combo will you dial next? You'll grow up and your taste will mature one day too.

>>376992071
>>376992185
Because they're in the middle of cutscenes, moments of the game where you don't expect interaction. The button prompts tend to be unrelated to the action you're performing. Press X to jump when the jump button is always otherwise A. It's just sporadic. That's why QTEs are bad. You're not playing the game at that point, you're just following instruction. Of course, I'm talking about mashing events such as shooting the bus door in Chapter 3 or the demon attacks during the boss fights. These have no agency, they're just boring wastes of time. People complain about Uncharted but even that game has a smarter approach to QTEs that respect the player.

>>376992381
Consolefags have terminally shit taste, nothing new.

>>376990610
Honestly after it's happened this many times I think consolefags just say whatever games aren't on PC are fucking amazing to fuck with us.

>>376992324
Literal braindead weeb. DMC only got playable from 3 onwards.

>>376992467
How else will they justify their $300 cheap memebox? Most of them are third worlder brazilians who only have laptops and PS3s and have to shill what little they get.

>>376992495
That explains your fascination with garbage like Bayonetta. You really are an imbecile.

>>376992381
It's a non-stop climax game. I could give you failing the very first time it happens. But the game is constantly throwing shit like QTEs during the cutscenes, and enemies attacking you right after, all the time, to keep you on your toes. How can you play this game for more than an hour and still "don't expect interaction" during the cutscenes?

>>376992381
This game already has almost every new enemy presentation cutscenes end with said enemy throwing something at you or jumping toward you then switching to gameplay where you have to dodge or get hit.

It's your fault for putting your controller down or not noticing this.
Plus it's not like you can't continue for where you left off, you just get a score penalty for sleeping.

>"I should of been a /pol/ doncer!"

What did Cerveza mean by this?

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I can practically hear the "Oh what a day."

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>>376990610
I'm a PC fag and I thinks it's 9/10.
Anyway I'm commandeeomg your thread to spitball this idea.
I think it's high time I post this idea that's been stewing in the back of my mind for years since Bayo 1 and it has just occured to me to complete it with Balder.
One has to ponder where the natural progression in this story will go and how and where that will make Kamiya take it. In Bayonetta 3, simply put, I want the story and mechanics in the game to be expanded on so that in this iteration; Bayo unlocks the Lumen side of her blood and becomes the first being to birth Lumen/Umbran dual arts. The first female to -ever- weild Lumen powers and a massively offensive bastardization of the status quo, garnering the full wrath of Paradiso and Inferno.
Jesus anons imagine how fucking stellar Bayo will look in Lumen then some orignial Lumen/Umbran garb. Have it be revealed that this was all apart of based Balder's -real- keikaku to upend the status quo of both Angels and Demons (of which he despises -both-) and kill Jubileus and give her eyes to his beloved daughter and, through her, humanity. All his prior douchbaggery was an act and in reality his goal was always to create the greatest world for his daughter and to rip away power from any immortal being. Even his "corruption" by Loptr was a ruse and he simply removed his memories before Loptr ever infected him so he could not discover his true intentions whilst inside him. He knows that the providence and love of Paradiso and the rebeliouness of Inferior, while -admirable- are fucking wasted on worthless immortal Angels and Demons and only humanity is worthy of it. A full on reverse-Zamasu.
1/2

>>376992546
>>376992561
If you would read my whole post, you would find this:
> Of course, I'm talking about mashing events such as shooting the bus door in Chapter 3 or the demon attacks during the boss fights.
You two seem to be stuck on the life-or-death QTEs, which too pad the game and make replaying chapters less fun, but I'm talking about mashing QTEs.

>>376992589
>reee stop pointing out i like shit games haha i'll deflect with memes

>>376992532
*goes to pirate another game*

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>>376992574
>Cerveza
I am silly

>>376992636
Literally all of Bayonetta's combat, including the mashing QTEs, are a euphemism for sex.

>>376990808
Without bait most threads die quick. People have discussed very topic to death already. Fighting over shit is all that`s left.

>>376992636
Mashing buttons to frantically do stuff if something that tons of games of that era did. It's not good nor bad and unless you have boneitis I don't see how it's an issue.

>>376992691
That's the fucking stupidest thing I've ever read, get outside more

>>376992636
Demon attacks give you better score. If you plan on competing with other players for hi-score, then you gotta mash them buttons.
Of course, instant gratification shitters like you would sooner cheat their way to the top.

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>>376990610
The best thing about this port is that now I can say the game is trash and don't hear the usual retarded consolecuck "sour grapes" response. This turd sold like hot garbage on PC despite the price cut, because it's a shit game heavily overhyped by consolecucks who have nothing to choose from and don't know how actually good action games look like.

Fuck, Lords of the Fallen sold more than 3 times the copies this trash sold, LMAO.

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>>376992629
Bayonetta herself reflects this by adopting a sort of meta mischievous-virtue (which has always been her nature), an acknowledgment that Paradiso's virtue and Inferno's freedom are king but a rejection of Angels' elitism & control and Demons' hedonism & rage. Just imagine her in veiled in Lumen light embracing virtue but with a shit eating grin and a pechant for anarchy. Just a before with little to no alteration to her personality. Great right?

Geting into the actual gameplay; reality would get all kinds of fucked up and quantum-mutated fusions of Angel and Demon would start to appear as enemies. Mechanically this would manifest as a new dimension of gameplay on the same (or greater) level of nuance as dodge-offset; Lumen and Umbran weapons and attacks would need to be switched between and chosen as these chaotic enemies weaknesses to Paradiso and Infero wax & wane with visual indication. Different enemies would have different shift patterns and different metas needed to combat them.

I showed this pasta to a friend before I made a thread about it and he said:
>"Yeah dude this sounds exactly like the whole Nephilim thing from DMC"
>W-whats that?
>"Well take a look online; Dante's whole schtick is that he is half Angel half Demon so in the game he can switch between their powers like, but not quite, this thing you cooked up for Bayo."
>Well shit
Honestly rained on my parade because I came up with this from the ground up with Bayo only with ziltch knowledge of DMC lore.
Tell me to what extent this sounds like a blatant rip-off.
Overall I think this nicely addresses an obviously common curiosity on the part of players wondering what it would be like to play as a Lumen Sage. We've all thought of it.
Now r8 my autism

>>376992691
>hurr it's intentionally shit

>>376992728
They're not fun, they're just boring. Time spent mashing X to see an epic demon pummel a boss is time I could be, I don't know, actually enjoying the combat the game is renown for?

>>376992738
What

>>376992787
No, it's intentionally fantastic.
Honestly besides Souls and Nier I can't name one modern game that had more satisfying dodging and combat.

>>376992691
>Literally all of Bayonetta's combat, including the mashing QTEs, are a euphemism for sex.
Huh, that actually makes sense, seeing how Kamiya is a bald raging manlet cuck who has never had sex with anything but a 2/10.

>>376992849
>buttloads of QTEs are now satisfying combat
/v/ is a joke

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Does anybody in this thread actually believe anything or is it all just bait?

>>376992807
Yeah you spend a whole 5 seconds mashing Y per boss, truly the game is ruined.

Uninstalling it right now and reinstalling Gone Home.

Truly I have seen the light.

>>376990845
it was mediocre 7 years ago too, fucking retard.

the QTE,motorcycling and shump part were never funny

>>376990610
It really is a mediocre game. In fact this is the only game I dropped on my ps3.

>>376992807
>They're not fun, they're just boring. Time spent mashing X to see an epic demon pummel a boss is time I could be, I don't know, actually enjoying the combat the game is renown for?
This is retarded. You understand that by the time you finish off the boss with a wicked weave attack, the fight is practically over? If the QTE wasn't there, you'd be just sitting in front of the screen drooling and watching the cutscene. QTE gives you something to do in the meantime AND increase your score. You're not obliged to do this, unless it's one of those QTEs that are possible to fail. You can just do nothing during those segments, you just won't get rewarded for that. If you actually cared about the game's combat proper, you wouldn't be make a fuss out of such a minuscule non-issue as occasional QTE.

>>376992949
It's one baiter replying to himself half the time. Sad really.

Just look at the top of the page: 91 replies / 37 posters.

I haven't enjoyed any Platinum games.. I got memed into playing Bayonetta, Wonderful 101 and Nier Automata. They have pretty fun combat, but the level design is just boring and generic. There's only so many times pulling off a combo can be fun, and that number of times is not enough for an entire game's worth of combat.

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Yeah I'm pretty sure this entire thread is bait.

Am I a pleb for liking the DMC reboot a lot more? I just really liked the angel/demon weapons and being able to grapple directly to enemies or pull them to you. It made air juggles so fun, especially the move with the shuriken that pulls all the enemies from the ground up to you.

So far Bayonetta is kinda clunky with the weird lock on and awful camera, it's much harder to do exactly what I want. The dodge offset seems cool though, I'll have to practice a bit to get used to it

>>376992949
Mostly just a samefag

>>376993138
>Am I a pleb for liking the DMC reboot a lot more?
Yes.
>So far Bayonetta is kinda clunky with the weird lock on and awful camera, it's much harder to do exactly what I want. The dodge offset seems cool though, I'll have to practice a bit to get used to it
But there's still hope for you. Practice and come out victorious like that anon >>376991054
did.

>>376993076
>If you actually cared about the game's combat proper, you wouldn't be make a fuss out of such a minuscule non-issue as occasional QTE.
What sense does this make? How does loving the combat more somehow make the QTEs good? You don't have to blindly apologize for every aspect of the game. When you love something, you know all its flaws. QTEs are one of them.

>>376993058
>the ps3 version
it was just a weak port , because of how late into development it was planned and because porting to the ps3 was hard.

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Further proof that PCfags ruin discussions of all games they get from consoles.

>>376993225
QTEs in Bayonetta are not a flaw though. As I just said they're non-issue. I can't say they make for a good gameplay either, but they most certainly don't make Bayonetta any worse. If anything, they add some minor additional satisfaction for punching a god in the face a little bit extra harder.
QTEs aren't an issue here, your weird obsession over them is.

>>376990610
>PC fanboy plays console action game
>goes full retard

The cycle continues.

>>376993303
Highly influential game dev here, thanks for the info. I'll be sure that my team never releases a game on PC again and let all my game dev contacts know that they should do the same.

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Meh i didn't like the game as much as over people

>>376992754
>Spoilers
Don't feel too bad, that's most likely from Tameme's DMC which isn't a bastion of creativity when it comes to lore. Your idea sounds interesting mechanically and it'd be neat to incorporate the two time stops into it. Would Bayo find out what's causing the warping and stuff?

>>376994003
OH WHAT A DAY

Can anyone link me up with a nude mod that doesn't require a hexeditor to install or some shit like that?

>>376992749
The game is currently sitting at 160,401 owners on Steamspy you retarded cunt.

>>376994049
How nude we talkin?

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>try to like the game
>get immediately bombarded with a quick time event, followed by a cutscene
>instantly throw the game in the garbage

How anyone came to praise this is beyond me.

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>>376994003

>>376994102
What ever is the most nude you got. Half nude is all good, preferably not barby crotch and no nips if it is full nude though.

>>376994003
LOLLL LOOK AT THIS THIS GUY "didn't like the game as much as over(sic) people" AND HE HAS ALL STONES
(Stones means he's bad at the video game)
THIS MEANS ALL PEOPLE WHO don't like the game as much as other people ARE bad at the video game
BTFO
ARGUMENTS NOW INVALID
WHAT
A
DAY

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>>376994198

t. Stone player

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>>376994106
>play a game
>there's a QTE
>do a 360 and walk away from gaming forever

wtf nintendo?

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>>376994198
I think he broke.

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Fuck off

Stop complaining about this game,
I bet you say the same shit about nier automataq

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>>376994198
>THIS MEANS ALL PEOPLE WHO don't like the game as much as other people ARE bad at the video game
This is unironically correct.

>>376994198
There are precisely zero (0) arguments against the game in this thread except muh QTE which is a fucking nitpick

>>376994015
>warping
If you meant the reality breaking stuff yeah; her. What's going on with her offends reality itself (Jubileus' creation) and the lines between Paradiso, Inferno, Purgatario, and Earth start to shatter.

>>376990808
>I noticed that witch time duration is wildly inconsistent, sometimes I only manage to get a hit or two, and sometimes I'm able to do an entire combo finishing with a wicked weave. What gives?
A wordy video with explanation why that is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ap4QxTZDQ

TLDR: witch time gets extended the more attacks you do

Obviously it is so that you don't time the exact moment WT ends and press RT again -- that is also why Clock screen effect becomes more transparent after WT activates

>>376994490
>that is also why Clock screen effect becomes more transparent after WT activates
It's really annoying in those Alfheims, when you can only attack enemies during witch time.

>>376991054
What's your steam time played?

>>376994676
84 hours

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>>376994573
Just stand there (or taunt if you want good ranks) and wait for their attacks

Dodge and enter WT do the attack with Witch Time and finish with torture attack -- you should be able to kill 1 angel at the very least

For harder enemies -- like claw assfuckers and dogs -- do torture attacks because they cut 30-40% of their life right there

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>>376991884
This, fellow anonymous poster.

Heck, I'd say that it's not just good, it's great! Maybe even the GOAT!

>>376994370
Wouldn't it be Omne's creation that she's offending or wait 2 was never clear if Omne was higher than Jubileus in cosmology. So what would be the fix to her stopping the warping. She can't really beat the fabric of reality into submission can she? Jk she could and it'd probably produce an extra-dimensional horror or something to combat her.

>>376994335
QTEs ruin the pacing of boss fights and interrupt chapters, making replaying the game a hassle since they are completely unskippable while adding nothing to the game.
There are 2.5 hours of cutscenes. Having to pause skip every other verse is pretty annoying, but they just aren't very good. The dialogue is unnatural and very awkward and unconversational. Characters barely react to what others say. Words just fall out of their mouths as they walk around. Which is a shame because the characters aren't bad and the VAs are good.
The plot's also pretty bad. The twist is obvious and everything is centered around it. Nothing really happens. There's little urgency in everything, Bayonetta's goals are sorta meh. Little is at stake until the very end.
The combat's sorta simple. There are tons of branching combos but there's little use for individual moves, making the various moves superficially different. Compare this to DMC where every little command has its own function and the hitboxes are unique enough to make learning everything important toward mastery.
The minigames are garbage and you can't skip them. There's no boss rush or verse select either, so I hope you don't want to fight Jeanne 3 ever again.
Score is not dictated by repetition, it seems, so the Kilgore combo completely removes all challenge the game or its ranking system has.
The game also has puzzles occasionally. These are okay, but again they get old on replays. Some of them can be skipped, fortunately. Platforming is very clumsy and similarly disrupts the game. The core gameplay is all about the wonderful combat, right? So stop wasting my time with the QTEs and platforming and other garbage.
The camera. The camera is so awful. It has a difficult time focusing on enemies. There can be two enemies in the room and the camera might turn and face the opposite side because you're running away. Locking on isn't even a guarantee the camera will point the right way.

tl;dr: God Hand had the right idea.

>>376994806
>Just stand there
Then the combo meter would decay.
>or taunt
I prefer using Shuraba's charge. But if the witch time ends, you're just gonna bounce off enemies, before you even get into the charging animation. Thanks to the autoaim which attacks the nearest enemy, even if you're facing the other way.

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>>376994806
Holy shit I can barely make a combo even completed the story with all silvers in infinite climax

>>376995069
Don't feel bad, that webm is just for show. He only actually hits enemies like four times. The rest is just him spamming dodge offset and spraying bullets everywhere.

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>>376994235
Read em and weep

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>>376994057
>160,401 owners
That's the point, you retarded mongoloid. 160k owners is literally fucking nothing. It's LITERALLY obscure indie turn based RPG tier.

Again, nobody wants your shitty console trash on PC, you fucking shit-eater. The actual sales numbers prove this, it's only the consoleshitters overhyping their shit games and pretending they are good, because they literally have nothing to choose from.

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>>376994960
>Then the combo meter would decay
Well if you are actually attempting (pure) platinum then you only option is to taunt and use taunt offset to maximise damage and points output

> I prefer using Shuraba's charge
don't shuraba's charge (and gunfire too btw) also kills your combo after some time -- longer than doing nothing but it still dies if you just stand there charging it

It is also very awkward

Taunt offset is done similarly how regular DO works -- you just hold the last P or K button in the string and hold taunt and when attack comes you dodge, enter WT and output pre-baked wicked weave right away.

Do PPKKK (the most efficient attack string in the game because it has 2 weaves per 5 hits) + maybe add locked in Heel Stomp for third Wicked Weave, then run up to some angel and press Y+B for torture attack -- all these hits and gunfire and 2-3 wicked weaves + torture attack that's a lot of points.

Taunt while out of witch time and this also restores back your magic that you will use for Torture Attacks.

>start the game
>10 minutes of cutscene before I start playing
>play a bit
>more cutscenes
holy shit

also another thing God Hand did right 1000 years ago

>>376994908
>Omne
Yeah it turns out that Bayonetta's fusion of Sheba and Jubileus was the pivotal moment where Balder's keikaku kickstarts. Don't exactly know how I would write Bayo first coming into Lumen stuff but it'd be alot like how she sounded cosplaying as that nun but real this time and with an added sensuous guutural bite to her voice. Virtue but with personality.
Bayo could be heard throughout the game waxing sexily philosophical. All puncuated with the good old "fuck Angels" (+ fuck Demons too now)

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>>376995208
>He only actually hits enemies like four times.
>Yoshesque
>he

> spamming dodge offset
lol

>>376995451
Sounds decent and how mechanically would she be going through Lumen tutorial? Outside of fighting demons.

>>376995407
>don't shuraba's charge (and gunfire too btw) also kills your combo after some time -- longer than doing nothing but it still dies if you just stand there charging it
Dunno, I just heard it stops the combo from breaking between waves. Plus it's perfect for those witch-time only Alfheims, because it's a huge burst of damage, just what you need.
I'm just saying it's annoying how you can't tell when the witch time ends, because the enemies just block your attacks in those specific Alfheim challenges. It's not an issue in the story mode verses.

>>376995502
so is this the only game she has played? she even has hour long videos just talking about bayonetta

>>376995332
You're a really dumb cunt aren't you?

>>376995502
Xe, zhe, whatever they call themselves these days.

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>>376994953
>There are tons of branching combos
>bayonetta only has attack strings!
wrong.gif

> There's no boss rush
wrong.avi

> The game also has puzzles
wrong.mkv

> Locking on isn't even a guarantee the camera will point the right way
wrong.webm

Majority of B players rarely touch manual lock-on button if at all.

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>>376995502
>tfw your gf will never be good at Bayonetta

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>>376995634
>You're a really dumb cunt aren't you?
Wait, are you such a dumbfuck that you think 160k is actually a lot? 160K is literally "nobody gives a fuck tier". Your dogshit of a game with more than 5 years of media exposure and neverending shilling from shit-eating consolecucks can't sell even a third of what fucking LotF have sold, AHAHAHAHAAH.

Nobody wants your weeb trash on PC, get fucked, consoleshitter.

>>376995332
>game release a month ago about to outsell a game released 2 years ago

Did you think before posting or did you just want to ruin your own point with those images?

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>>376995804
>Nobody wants your weeb trash on PC

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>>376995603
As i said combo will STILL die even with Shuraba charge

> because it's a huge burst of damage
TOO big of burst, sword is way too powerful and kills enemies too fast -- most often than not you will be left with no angels to style on and hufe deficit on points.

When doing (pure) platinum, sword, shotgun and obviously rocket tonfas are to be used with caution cause if you get too comfy with them -- they will cuck you with gold or even silver on combo. However you can use them if you equipe Gaze of Despair which makes enemies harder and denser, gives them bigger HP and you -- more points.

Use regular guns, taunt offset and torture attacks.

> I'm just saying it's annoying how you can't tell when the witch time ends
That's the entire point of it.

REACT and wait. When you enter witch time and while doing attacks and torture attack be spatially aware of where the other enemies are and if they can attack you -- once screen stops being blue -- REACT based on new situation.

>>376995556
Maybe something involving amnesia where she just striaght up thinks she's a Lumen for several chapters. Or not, probably a beter way to write her first use of Lumen powers than that. Unsure.
Maybe she discovers the keikaku (all "Oh daddy you were a based motherfucker all along!") And decides to possess a Joy to learn shit first under her own initiative... yeah that sounds better. Have her actually be seen as a Lumen tinkerer (all sexy librarian like) all hush and devious as the implications of the ideology she knows she needs to create becomes more and more known to her.
Have this be a start contrast to the 'her being swept up in events' themes of the last to GB ames. SHES the one setting shit into motion now.

>>376995809
>ACTION game released a month ago with 5 years worth of consoleshitter hype and shilling vs a literally who title in a niche genre that had exactly zero marketing
>both games have exactly the same price
>shitonetta still can't outsell it

Patricians with actual taste don't want your trash, weebcuck, try again.

>>376994490
Man thank you. I was looking for a general guide to step up my bayo game. And now I've found the right channel for it.

Sad thing is I only have the WiiU version. Do you think an upgrade is justifiable? Except for more consistent fps and basically no loadtimes, how does the port feel?

>>376996017
*stark contrast

>>376996017
Sounds nice, and after she's tinkering around is when the reality warping/breaking begins to happen and she catches onto it. Maybe in some way she's looking for the source because of curiosity and some contrived reason of "she lives in reality, she wouldn't want it to fall apart." that doesn't really get mentioned until like the last level

>>376995804
160k is a lot for a years old game that probably didn't cost a lot to port.

>>376996104
> WiiU version
is totally fine

> Do you think an upgrade is justifiable?
if you have spare 10 bucks lying around and don't mind doing all this shit all over again -- why not?

I actually retrospetively like Wii U a bit more because wii u gamepad has digital trigger while trigger on 360 controller have a travel time and that trips me up with dodge timing (not sure how i originally pured it on 360 with these very same controllers)

As long as it's not ps3 all versions are fine.

>>376996016
I understand that, but it's not too big of a damage burst in those Alfheims. And I rarely use the charge in the regular verses.
Also about the regular guns. They don't matter much against enemies that aren't just regular angels, because shits like Joys or Grace and Glory just block regular shots anyway.

>REACT and wait.
You can't react to the fact the Witch Time suddenly ended and your combo was cut off short because of the arbitrary rules of this particular Alfheim portal. Once the screen stops being blue it's already happened.
Also, as I mentioned, the auto aim makes it worse, because charging Shuraba requires you to do at least a single normal swing, and if you're too close to an enemy it will just bounce.

>>376996227
Thanks bro, I guess I'll stay on the WiiU version. I've spend way too much money on steam over this month.

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>>376996256
>You can't react to the fact the Witch Time suddenly ended and your combo was cut off short because of the arbitrary rules of this particular Alfheim portal
You totally can if you are not in the middle of mashing buttons

Give yourself 2-3 seconds tops to do the attack, and then end it with Torture Attack if you have magic or just back off and taunt.

When you start Torture attack in withc time, it still completes and kills the angel even if witch time has lapsed and you are not pressing buttons during so there is no danger of touching angel on fire.

> auto aim
tilting the stick before you do any moves that lock you on (hold gunfire, manual gunfire, taunt, manual lock-on) lets you pick the target

> They don't matter much against enemies that aren't just regular angels
Well that's what 90% of most of your enemies are.

> because shits like Joys or Grace and Glory just block regular shots anyway
Joys and Jeanne (who is a reskinned Joy) and G&Gs totally take regular melee hits, what they can't block however is gunshots when you hold buttons that's would be the source of most of your damage against such slippery enemies that are too dangerous to engage in close quarters.

>>376996134
Oho no the reason would be behind a general doctrine of
>Angels, Demons; Get the fuck /out/
>Humanity says: Paradiso=Mine. Inferno=Mine. Purgatorio=Mine. /out/ /out/ /out/! We are going to build a wall and the immortals are going to pay for it!
>Just "wall" is really just a euphemism for you just fucking dying. Bu bye ;3

Bonus: We get to see Jeanne and Rodin s her Lumen and Umbran lieutenants looking all badass

>>376996749
Fitting, though I don't think Purgatorio would be a problem considering that's where she fights everything iirc. Jeanne's not really a Lumen though, so Bayo would probably have to be flouncing near heaven. Actually switching Jeanne and Rodin might fit if Rodin's more fallen angel than infernal. It's been a while since I cared about him so I've probably misremembered what he is.

>>376996719
>When you start Torture attack in withc time, it still completes and kills the angel even if witch time has lapsed
Actually it doesn't. It gets blocked if it was initiated during witch time, but only connects when it ended.
Plus, there are some combos that require you mashing buttons. Although, I guess, those can be avoided in the witch time only challenges.
>lets you pick the target
The issue is, the game forces you to pick a target if there are enemies still alive in the same area. You can't just turn around and kick thin air.
>what they can't block however is gunshots when you hold buttons
Can't they really? I never noticed. I know they don't block the shotguns, but I thought they block Scarab-something Fair shots even during the extended combos. I'll have to try that.

>>376996749
Rodin as the Lumen and Jeanne as the Umbran btw, didn't mean to imply the opposite.

>>376996981
Right, see >>376997083

Told you pcfags ruin the discussion of any games they touch

>>376990610
He's right though

>QTEs up the ass
>Boring story
>Ugly protagonist
>EXTREMELY shit level design
>Terrible enemy encounters like the Inspired
>Pacing problems
>Two horrendous on rails vehicle segments

>>376997161
Well then, who would be the main people she has to kill. Would she go after Madama and Lady? Whoever Jeanne's main patron is, that is. With the way some of the summon demons are I wouldn't be surprised if there's multiples like how Balder got to use the virtues for his summons. Honestly has me curious if Sheba would care enough to interfere since everything in the lore points to her just keeping to herself. Jubileus might be similar since it was Balder who desired to do whatever with Jubileus in 1.

>>376997304
Good eye; wicked weaves would be an issue with out contracted Demons & Angels wouldn't they? Have Bayonetta be so devious that she sends her influence into Paradiso and Inferno to acquire traitors that are down with becoming humans and/or a part of new humanity.

Madame Butterfly has remained a curious figure for far too long so for sake of sating this curiosity; shes gonna have to die. Make a point that Bayo keeps some of her contractees but others turn on her including that favorite Dragon of hers who she has to put down. All broken up about it even. Madame would be a half point boss or something. And a bitch.
Necessitating a replacment for Butterfly as she had served as Bayo's base punch and kick weaves. Some other demon down with the plan that doesn't want to get mutated. Maybe something that looks completely different from Madame's fists and heels. This isn't to say anything of the Angel contacts she scores yet.
Sheba dies too. Maybe even near the start in a similar way to Jubileus, to get her out of the way. The big end boss would be some cuhrayzee bigwig Angel-Demon fusion. Or something.

>>376997214
PC players just have much higher standards than console players, for better or for worse, depending on your perspective.

>>376998590
Higher standards are always 'for better'

>>376998535
Wouldn't Gamorrah be up in the air? It breaks away in two but I thought the way they described it in the bestiary made it sound like there was more of them. Now Hecatoncheires, that's probably a one off that is neutral enough she might keep it. Wait after a quick look at all the named demons, they seem to be special cases. Gamorrah specifically states that it takes the form of a dragon, so eh there goes that idea. Baal might be neutral enough, same with Labolas though Labolas was originally a dog like how Diomedes was originally a horse. A man eating horse but a horse all the same.
If Sheba and Jubileus die, perhaps Omne gets involved then, probably a stretch in reasoning but it took both Balder and Bayo to summon her and then it was largely just Sheba and Jubileus combined, she could easily exist in some form without needing SJ to be combined.

Angelic contracts would be interesting, the cardinal virtues seem to have body doubles compared to named demons so I could see Bayo havin Iustitia depending on weapon choice and motivation for said angel. It would really have to develop how the sages get pacts with the angels. Could also do named angels from mythos like Raziel. Oh Ba'al Zabul would make for an interesting infernal alley if frog Baal dies

I didn't like the fanservice, the whole thing seems to be based around it.
I don't mind staring at woman's ass but at the same time i don't like when the game constantly does it.

I also dislike how japs always have stupid over the top weapon/character/level design, but it's my personal opinion.

It's like every other Platinum game: shit tier level design, terrible and not fun enemies and button mashing gameplay

>>376999262
Gamorrah would be implied to be so full of rage and thirst for blood that it simply wouldn't be in his nature to be down with the plan, so he is an enemy.
The thing I have in mind is to have as many new faces to the Angelic and Demonic hierarchies as possible. Big and small.

>Angelic contracts would be interesting, the cardinal virtues seem to have body doubles compared to named demons so I could see Bayo havin Iustitia depending on weapon choice and motivation for said angel. It would really have to develop how the sages get pacts with the angels. Could also do named angels from mythos like Raziel. Oh Ba'al Zabul would make for an interesting infernal alley if frog Baal dies
All of this. Yes.

>>377000148
I would hope for some form of cat demon ally to compliment Labolas. I would love to see the higher ranking angels get more involved to the point where Seraphs become way more common. Hopefully if there is a third one features the three other virtues in some manner or just expands on it in general. Inferno's kind of at a nice size in known lore by the end of two.

>>376990610
The game is better on higher difficulties. Why? Because by the time you unlock the higher difficulties you have a decent understanding of the combat system and some cool gear unlocked. And because on higher difficulties you encounter more enemies, which make the fights more intense.

The game is only mediocre if you're shit at it and couldn't even get gold on a chapter in your first playthrough.

>>377000470
>if you are 95% sorry but yes, game is shit

>>377000470
>looking up a guide for where all the hidden verses are
>on your first playthrough, no less
Gtfo scrub

>>377000835
You can find some accidentally, the scoring system is pretty lenient compared to MGR for example so I got a gold chapter or two

>>377001437
gold in Bayo is equivalent of B in MGR

>>377001539
I also got some pure plat verses on the first go while I had to work for every S in mgr

>>376991705
>I guess it's safe to just ignore your
>>It is objectively a 5 or maybe 6 out of 10.

91% positive reviews
so on a 10 scale 91% would have rated it above 5
9% would have rated it 5 or below
You literally can't tell the score on a 10 point scale from steam score you fucking retard inbred trash

>>376991054
I swear Bayo 1 non stop climax is way fucking harder than Bayo 2 one

Why do you keep making these threads you shit taste faggot

What's the point of the rose?
>Appears for like 150ms
>Average reaction time for people is ~200-250
???

>>377001903
The bat form dodge is not as much of a reaction-based mechanics, as it is just more of a safety net in case you fuck up and dodge a tiny bit too late.

>>377002067

The rose, from the accessory where you press direction key

>>377001737
>while I had to work for every S in mgr
that's because MGR ranking is retarded

MGR ranking has just one job and it's compeltely shit at it

>>377002104
The moon?

>>377002104
???

>>377002130
is "use durga and don't get hit" that much better?

>>377002168
>>377002189

The moon, you get the rose on your screen when you can block

>>376990610
its not bad but no great either, its more of a 7/10 type of game.. it made me reconsider pre ordering vanquish.
maybe summer sale when i have nothing to play

>>377002238
You're supposed to learn enemies' attack timings, not just do it on reaction.

>>376996021
You are cancer. Congrats

>>377002238
I'm pretty sure the rose appears regardless of you having purchased Mahaa-Kalaa. It just means you took damage.
Also
>direction key
took me a while to decipher. I was thinking of some accessory that requires you to hold D-pad or something.

>>376995804
160k for a port of an age-old, semi-obscure weeb action game is actually a fucking shitload. It's a significant portion of the game's total sales.

>It's another game has a katana so all the weeb anime cancer faggots flock to it episode

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Apparently 2 is much better. Better get that Cemu booted up.

>>377002456

Enjoy witch time ;^)

>>377002430
>its a cancerous faggot feels the need to shit up 4chan with his terrible bait episode

>>377002456
Why was Bayo 2 prologue 1000x more harder than Bayo 1's ?

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>>376990610
PC fags aren't cancer they said

>>376990610
>User reviews:
>OVERALL: Very Positive (3,106 reviews)
What are you on about.

>>377002543
>more harder

>>377002598
>Appealing to popularity

>>377002612

It's more harder than just harder

>>377002681
It's "OVERALL: Very Positive" on /v/ as well.

>>377002681
I just don't understand what he means by "exposed" or who the supposed "pc bros" is.

>tfw no cheevos on pirated version

>>377002984
Speaking of which. I'm glad there are no retarded cheevos like "get Pure Platinum on non-stop climax mode". They're all reasonably realistic to get.

>>377003139
How is that a retarded cheev? It would be an achievement to get it.
And they are after all literally called achievements

>>377003139
git gud

>>377003228
Nah, it's not. We both know how those are done. You just keep reloading from checkpoint until you PP a verse. This isn't fun or challenging, this is just frustrating.
Plus, even if I wanna do something like this, I'd really rather have it as an optional challenge, than a requirement for 100% completion.
So Bayo is good in that regard, because it doesn't force unreasonably hard shit on you, but it's there if you want even more challenge.

>>376990610
>So many boring cutscenes
>Less action
I deleted it on my pc after the 2nd mission

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>>377002456
>Bayo2 is insanely lewder compared to Bayo1
I'm legitimately jelly desu.

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>>376990610
0 Taste: The Post

>>376990610
>>376991120
>Haha us PcBros
>I form part of a collective
>It almost feels like if I had friends
Hang in there anons.

Gonna watch a bayonetta 2 speedrun, since I won't be able to play it anyway doesn't matter

>>377003918
>Anon, two months ago: I'm going to watch a Bayonetta speedrun, since I won't be able to play it anyway it doesn't matter
>Another Anon, right now: I'm probably never going to download Bayonetta, why not watch a speedrun? Same thing, right?
>A third Anon, right now as well: I'll never watch that movie, why not read the summary instead? Same thing, right? Doesn't matter.

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>>376990610
What's with the Bayo hate threads on /v/ recently? Did something happen?

>>377004461
It's just that /v/ has become a significantly worse place in the 8 years since the games initial release.

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I'm pretty sure that "PC bros" are people with the worst taste imaginable on this board.

>>377004461
the contrarians are butthurt because people are enjoying something they don't like

>>377004752
Don't act like this garbage didn't make your gay little exclusive lists before it went multiplat.

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>>376991257

>Tedious bosses

>>377004950
I don't have a "gay little exclusive list". I'm an idort, I usually buy games I'm interested in on the platform they're first released on. I'm talking about "PC bros", or retards like OP who exclusively play on PC.

>>377004046

I'll forget everything by the time it comes to PC anyway

>>376991640
They're just quoting the RLM review but ignoring the positive comments.

>>377004461
Previously Recorded made a review video that was overall positive but had a handful of complaints about the game.

>>377005524
literally no one cares about previously recorded.

>>376991585
>No.
WE WUZ BAYONETTA AND SHIIT

>>377005876
Way to be a huge fucking retard. He asked why the threads, I said why. A vast majority of the negative/shitpost posts in this thread are just comments they made on the show. Stop being stupid.

>>376991117
>shitty fixed camera
>shitty level design and enemies
>centipede
The "DMC3 is good" meme needs to die.

>>377006251
>actually having problems with the camera
Are you retarded? I agree with Gigapede, that boss sucked, but it was also ridiculously easy and over in a minute.
>>shitty level design and enemies
The level design is good for the most part, what are you talking about? It's basically RE-lite and if you don't like that, then that's your problem. There really could have been more enemy variety though.

I've played my fair share of action games and i've gotten quite good at them but there's something wrong with how Bayonetta controls in this game, she feels slow and sluggish. Does she gets faster moves later on?

Amazes me that consolefags hyped this up so much, PC just has so much choice available that we don't need to resort to praising linear repetitive oversexualized shit like this

>>377006767
The Durga weapon has two styles. Fire for slow, but heavy damage, lightning for rapid low damage moves.

>>377006767
What do you mean? If you want to slice and dice real fast - use Shuraba. But I wouldn't call the default guns slow either. Plus the combat is kinda built around slower combos, because you want to use dodge offset to chain combo finishers properly, and to be able to do that, you need extended (and sorta slow down) your combos by holding the attack buttons.

>>377007013
>>377007184

oh ok

>>376990610
DUDE BAYONETTA IS MY WAIFU SHE'S SUCH A CLASSY LADY WHO OWNS HER SEXUALITY LMAO