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Not trying to say FromSoft ran away with the money but

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if they don't use the money to improve performance (PS4 latest patch don't fix frame rate) and graphics are outdated, what do they do with the money?
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>>376988547
Spend it on the enviroment? Nioh's enviroment isn't that great.
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Pay their dozens of workers and pour it into their next big project, obviously.
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finally use it on armored core again
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>>376988610
fromsoft didn't make Nioh, idiot
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according to wiki, Fromsoft has 260 employees while Team Ninja is unknown but they may have less than 150 employees considering Koei Tecmo is not a big company.
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>>376988671
I'm bringing up Nioh because it's used in the comparison above.
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Mary expansion when?
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>>376988610
This is from DW9. It makes BB/Dark Souls 3 environments look like PS2 games.
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>>376988895
Nice, is that ingame?
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If BB2 ever release, it's safe to say it's going to be slightly better than DaS3 because the BB engine is very generic when it comes to backgrounds
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>>376989005
I don't know. Koei usually don't lie in their previews. Nioh environments always looked bad (when they released screenshots) even before the alpha demo.
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>>376989094
True, then I dunno, maybe FromSoft use paper currency to wipe their ass.
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Different games have different budgets, even within the same genre or between games of similar scope. Just because Bloodborne is the quintessential Single PS4 Game to people online doesn't change that it's not a AAA game (which is determined by budget, not quality or popularity). Nioh isn't either, but we can't know that Koei Tecmo's budget wasn't larger. There is also the matter of how the budget is distributed. Some studios will value high quality character models, and it makes sense for Nioh because the game has fully animated cutscenes with characters interacting with one another, something Fromsoft's games lack. Even if From had the money to make higher quality character models, they may still shy away from doing so because it just isn't how they have historically allocated resources.
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Bloodborne lets me play as a girl.
Nioh forces me to play as a guy.
Bloodborne > Nioh
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>>376989692
This.
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>>376989542
Dark Souls 1 sold millions, very small budget game. Dark Souls 2 sold millions, a little bigger budget still using 2009 assets, Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne sold millions and they used the same engine
They released 5 souls games with 2 engines and no cutscene, decent graphics and good character model. Plus all Souls games except Dark Souls 2 runs in 30fps in all consoles.
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so I take it none of you understand how running a company works
Or just how money works in general
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>>376989692
You can play as best gril in newest patch.
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>FromSoft ran away with the money
What?
It wasn't an early access scamstarter game, you payed for a product and you got it
Besides, most of that money probably goes to the publisher
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>>376989094
I sincerely doubt the game will look that good when when the console also has to generate dozens of peons at once. Musou games always skimped on the environments to render more enemies.
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>>376989946
Dark Souls series sold 8,5 million BEFORE Bloodborne AND DARK SOULS 3
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-07-01-dark-souls-series-sales-surpass-8-5-million

8,5m+Dark Souls 3 + Bloodborne = ~13 million
http://www.shacknews.com/article/94599/dark-souls-3-sales-reach-3-million-units-dark-souls-series-shipments-reach-13-million-units

13 million copies, 5 games in total, 2 engines and recycled assets, bad ports and no post-release support (other than major bugs and item addition, no significant performance adjustment)
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>>376989692
New patch let's you play as a guy who BECOMES the girl

NiOh wins
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>>376990079
Also 30 minute DLC gameplay for 19,99+tax
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>>376990079
And your point is...?
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>>376988895
God bless Koei but thats look like bullshot to me
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>>376989094
>Koei usually don't lie in their previews
they always do bullshots
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>>376990164
xD
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>>376988547
Enemy variety
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Honestly how fucking buttravaged are people on this board going to be when the next Sony x FROM game is revealed at E3 - and when at PSX a Bloodborne sequel is announced?
>>376990259
Based reply
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>>376990079
The Dark Souls games are published by Bandai Namco, they also own the IP. They no doubt get the lion's share of the profits. Bloodborne was From Software working with Japan Studio, a different publisher, and the game was expected to be even more niche than it actually ended up, so it isn't like it has Dark Souls money behind it.
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>>376988547
>if a game company makes money they better use it to make their game better
Nah fäm, they got kids to feed n sheit
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>>376990304
Fromdrones are always defensive. Continue eating From unfinished games for 59,99 + season passâ„¢
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>>376990313
is it fair to say Fromsoft keeps at least 40% from total sales?
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>>376990116
Please elaborate, I fell off nioh pretty early on. I can play as a girl now?
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>>376990521
what's the /v/ obsession with becoming girls in japanese games? go masturbate to something else you pervert
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>>376990467
I have no idea but I doubt it's that high. They probably get enough to pay their employees, maintain their equipment, and a bit extra that varies based on the success of the game.
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>>376990259
>>376990304
I like Nioh and BB so i take what i can get

I just hope as someone who truly likes Nioh, Koei can build of the fondation they built in the eventual sequel.
More enemy variety, more diserfied enemy placement and so on.
Maybe instead of making like a travel guide to Fucked Up japan, they can be a bit more creative with the scenarios. I dont mind the level based structure but i think the stages werent that good
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>>376990521
In Nioh you can buy skins to play as different characters
Now you can buy female skins
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>>376988547
Aren't they making 3 games right now?
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>>376990554
Becoming an anime girl is the highest dream mankind can observe.
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>>376990572
Feudal japan is the best setting. Perhaps they should move to some setting closer to the 19th century
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From software have always been a money laundering scheme. Thats why half the game is always missing.
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>>376988547
>PS4
>frame rate
Hueeeeeueue
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>>376990572
Also make it so you can cut bamboos you fucking faggots
>>376990656
Make it about Hokkaido
Hokkaido is the comfiest part of japan
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>>376988895
LOL DW9 doesnt fucking look like that are you fuckin insane kid

>t-they're not bullshots!!

LOL btw that doesnt even fucking look good!!
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>>376990867
>Hokkaido
but westerns tourists will travel there and destroy it
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>>376988547
What money? Why are you talking like theyre one of those kickstarter scams? The money used for the game is theirs not from the community, they dont owe you shit.
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>>376988895
>posts early PS3 visuals
>compares it to DS3/BB
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>>376988547
Are we going to have to fight that bitch Maria again in the next DLC?
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>>376988895
Are you trying to imply that this shitty screenshot looks somewhat impressive? Fuck off.
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>>376990968
Dark Souls 3 is a very bad looking game. At least in Bloodborne they used filters to mask the edges
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ITT /v/ has no idea how video game development or buisness in general works. All profits go to publishers. From doesn't have high quality LOD assets for faces, because they barely ever show up in cutscenes.
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>>376988610
well ehh it is feudal japan, not much to work with.
the Oda mission was where they got to display their imagination.
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>>376991205
Fromsoft made a deal with Bandai, it's their fault if they keep all the money
at the very least they made 190 million dollars profit in 5 souls games.
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>>376990079
>3.25 on PC
>by 2015
I bet half of them were 5 bux purchases during Steam sales.
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>>376990313
FromSoft self-publish in Japan outside of the stuff they've done with Japan Studio, which isn't a publisher but is a Sony studio, with the game published by Sony.

>>376990467
>>376990558
40% is about what the publisher ends up with after things like the retailer's cut and platform licensing and production/transport costs, some small portion of that will likely go to the developer but it can vary quite a lot.

Some devs won't be entitled to any kind of royalty, but they'll gets some kind of bonus based on review scores or sales numbers, but while they're not making any royalty money the publisher usually continues to fund them for post-release support and to produce DLC.

Some devs are going to receive all of their income as part of a publisher directly financing projects(shovelware devs survive like this), even if those games sell spectacularly well.

Other devs are successful enough or have enough clout because of their reputation to get deals that don't leave them in such a horribly exploitative situation though, or are lucky enough to have a publisher who doesn't want to fuck the people they're working with give them a fair deal.
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>>376991485
why everyone say Bandai fuck devs? where does this theory comes from?
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The only reason I'm not playing or buying nioh is cause I can't play as a girl. They fucked up big time forcing me to play a boring guy.
At least make him feminine or something
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>>376988547
>Nioh one is a cinematic still
>BB one is not
>implying BB doesn't run just fine on PS4
I don't know why /v/ uses the Souls games as its bait fodder, but here's your (OP)
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>>376991997
It's a popular series with well known things that can be used to shitpost with. That's it.
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>>376991997
Which chalice dungeon is that? I still need to go back and do them all.
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>>376991762
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>>376988547
Who is this Mary? A Nioh character?
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>>376992223
One of the villains in the Nioh DLC.
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>>376992104
>Which chalice dungeon is that?
ske4igwv, I believe.
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>Niohfags would spam BB threads with .webms of their EPIC combat day in day out when LE CONQUERED was out/before release
>Game comes out
>Enemy variety is ass
>Sloth Talismans invalidate any and all enemies
>Combat is piss easy and shallow even in Path of the Strong/NG+
>Niohfags resort to spamming pictures of their brand new shiny waifu because they have nothing else

L M A O

inb4 >y-you haven't played the game

beat all missions with kusarigama cheese combo, didn't even use sloth talismans once
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>>376991762
Wow a real fag
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>>376992279
>Top QT is a villain
>You probably can't make yourself look like her like the other women
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>>376992429
Her skin will likely be added further down the line, considering that she gets away at the end of the first DLC pack and is at least partially responsible for the Siege of Osaka.
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>>376990867
>19th century Hokkaido
>Golden Kamui Souls
Gibs me dat
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>>376992515
Wew. I really need to finish Nioh then. I only got up to the third region before taking a break*.

*See: Me loving a game but still leaving it incompleted because I don't know. This happens with a lot of games I own.
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Nioh 2 PS5 exclusive launch title
4K 60fps

Who hype here?
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>>376992745
>s-surely it will dethrone the souls series this time!
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>>376992745
If they release a PS5 next year after i just got a ps4 pro, i will never buy anything from sony again
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>>376992775
>PS5
>Next year
Yeah with Ryzen costing 279 dollars they will release another PS3 $599,99+tax
There is no market for PS5 in 2018 or 2019. Perhaps late 2020.
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>>376988895
ROFL looks like BFBC2. + BB/Ds3 environments are fine, and at least aren't empty like on your pic.
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>>376993009
>and at least aren't empty like on your pic.
>a-at least it it h-has a-a small grass
I can smell your fat skin from here
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>>376992745
>4K 60fps
Zero fucks. I don't even like the way 60fps looks.

>wahh, why does my game look worse than the bullshots they showed me and is substantially short than i was lead to beleave
Maybe it has to do with trying to mete retarded graphical standards? Overrated as fuck.
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>>376988895
>A whole lot of fucking nothing
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>>376993009
>>376993353
>>376993416
same fag
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Why can't people like both Ni-oh and Bloodborne without flinging shit at each other?

I feel like BB is the superior game as it's a bit moe innovative and the scenario is just amazing. It does have its flaws like the second half being weaker than the first (like every other Souls game) and some performance issues

Ni-oh has amazing gameplay and the performace is pretty decent even on the regular PS4, but it suffers from Team Ninja's "Let's make some things really fucking hard for no reason" and poor enemy variety
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>>376988547

Not a fan of either of those chinese games. But games don't get better graphics by throwing money at a computer screen. You need talented artists that can bring it to life.
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>>376993694
>"Let's make some things really fucking hard for no reason"

sloth talismans
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>>376993320
??? I didn't know DS3 and BB were known for their green areas. Did you even play the games?
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Reminder PC will NEVER EVER get Bloodborne :^)
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>>376994184
it was an expression not to be taken literally. Graphics fags usually say "oh there is a green mud there so it's 100x better"
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>>376994395

I'm watching a playthrough on youtube.
Looks pretty meh tbqhwuf.
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>>376994656

>Watching other people play games

Typical PCfag
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