Tripwire Suicide Watch

It's not by Tripwire, it's by Not!Tripwire, the mod team that made the original Rising Storm.

How is it unbalanced?

I'm having a shit tonne of fun, it's easy, the guns actually work unlike other games and the movement system is great.

I have been playing in a team, you create your own spawns as the squad leader you dipshit.

The only badly designed map is Hue City, the rest are all great, get fucking good Nu /v/.

>>376973929
>try shooting over the side of a ditch or a wall

If the barrel of the gun is pointing straight at the wall but your sights are over it, it is obviously going to shoot the wall.

Guns aren't fucking magic.

>HUEHUEHUE City
>Gooks dug in by the gate tower
>"GEE III GO HOME" being yelled thru the VOIP
>continuously blast them to death with grenade launcher
>They thought they were safe behind their campy cover
>distanct bass guitar plays
Fun game, I really enjoyed the helicopter rides and being a gunner.

>>376974551
Wish the commies would get tanks or maybe deployable field artillery cannons, and anti batteries.

>>376974724
That's just player-hostile game mechanics.

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>>376973929

I like it. Have had a lot of fun games with well coordinated teams and squads.

>>376974724
>If the barrel of the gun is pointing straight at the wall but your sights are over it
This is what I hate about games, nobody would ever point their gun straight at a wall. They would lift it up over the obstacle, but for some reason you can't do this.

>>376974801
2 things they need to do would.
Allow helis to play music from a players personal folder and maybe put radio around the map playing that shit.

Or go full on realism: remove hud, remove global voip(except for radiomen) and only allow local of both allies and enemies, give limited ammo, limited re spawns forcing careful movement

oh an controller/joystick support for helis.... thats like a gimme

>>376976545
Yeah, music is what makes this game more fun than RS/RO2. I like the fact they made guns less deadly so you actually have a better chance to run for cover. It makes chasing/pursuing enemies as a squad, fun experience. Also, idk why they added "Woodstock vision." Seriously useless and just gives me motion sickness.

>>376977642
Are they just filters?

>>376973929
>The game isn't fun. WAH. I suck at it, EVERYONE AGREE WITH ME!!!

>>376974551
>>376974801
>>376975740
>>376977642

Literally everyone in this thread is talking about how fun the game is, though acknowledging that it needs work, like normal human beings.

Go fuck yourself OP.

>>376973929

it's okay we have SQUAD

>>376976545
Id be down for this, but only If the pilot is force to chose between rockets/door gunners and a kick ass sound system.

>No night maps
dropped

It's low quality when compared to Red Orchestra 2 -> Rising Storm, but its decent for 30 bucks

The maps are the worst part, the rest of it is fine. The maps are bad

Your gameplay complaints make you sound like a shitter who never played RO2/RS, git gud

>>376981694
There's a time and place for git gud.

Not spotting enemies and walking into their line of sight = git gud.

Not being able to shoot over obstacles because your bullets hit it even when your gun is clearly above the obstacle, a weapon causing blood spurts on an enemy but inflicting no damage, sickening amounts of bloom and light flickering, grenades that hit invisible hitboxes on objects that look open, maps that range from boring to I would rather swim in an ocean of elephant shit than play this map = fix your shitty game.

anyone have good videos explaining this?

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The game is fun to play, OP is just a butthurt RO2 beta tester that can't let go of his grudge for Tripqire.

>>376974551
/thread

i'm playing it for 4h straight and just can't stop playing i want more. Hue city is all right map i wish we would have more maps in cities.

>>376974724
>If the barrel of the gun is pointing straight at the wall but your sights are over it, it is obviously going to shoot the wall.
>Guns aren't fucking magic.

It is a collision issue. In RO2/Rising Storm, you can't shoot into a wall you are right up against. The soldier lowers his weapon if there is not enough room to aim it. That tells you if the barrel is obstructed by the thing in front of you.

In Rising Storm 2 it doesn't do this. There is definite collision detection issues that they need to fix.

>>376983237
>Not being able to shoot over obstacles because your bullets hit it even when your gun is clearly above the obstacle, a weapon causing blood spurts on an enemy but inflicting no damage, sickening amounts of bloom and light flickering, grenades that hit invisible hitboxes on objects that look open, maps that range from boring to I would rather swim in an ocean of elephant shit than play this map = fix your shitty game.

I'm really enjoying the game but these are legitimate problems in the game.

As for maps, Hue has a problem that objective Charlie is too difficult to take. As for the two "supremacy" mod maps, the problem is the game mod, not the map design. The supremacy mod is just shitty. It spreads out the fighting and makes a 64 man match feel like a 16 man match.

>>376973929
>the thrill of getting shot from 100+ meters away by someone laying at the edge of the playing area doing nothing but waiting to get kills.

Welcome to the Tripwire rice fields motherfucker.

>>376973929
>By the way, spawns don't dynamically change except for a few maps, so enjoy getting shot, then having to run 300-500m to get to the point, repeated endlessly in each match

If that is happening it is the fault of the Squad Leaders not doing their job. It's part of the game and is how Red Orchestra 2 and Rising Storm are.

>>376984350
I'll be really upset if those issues aren't fixed by launch. I have lost so many great kills because I shot the window sill infront of me whereas in previous titles it would have been fine.

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>>376973929
>mfw 183 hours
>still having fun

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>>376973929
OP salty af

all these people defending tripwire lol
paying 30 dollars for a reskinned ro2
they release trash games every single time and you keep buying and supporting them

I wish this game had 3D voice chat, sometimes I just want to let the guy next to me know that there's 2 gooks inside a building without saying that to the entire team.

>>376984649
>I'll be really upset if those issues aren't fixed by launch. I have lost so many great kills because I shot the window sill infront of me whereas in previous titles it would have been fine.

And then you have to stand up to get above the object and expose your entire body. Then you get picked off right away. It just doesn't work.

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>>376984838
and you keep getting mad every time

>>376984838
>paying 30 dollars for a reskinned ro2

It's not reskinned. It handles and plays differently while still retaining most of what I liked about RO2 compared to other shooters.

>>376984838
>valve turns a mod of half life into a full game and calls it counter strike
>nobody cares
>tripwire does it for Rising Storm
>everyone loses their minds

>blast gook with stockless riot shotgun
>splatter his mind on his comrades who didn't see me enter
>rack shotgun and delete both charlies
i got three words for you, little yellow grave-filler: I WAS BORN IN THE USA

>>376984838
>reskinned ro2

Stop using that term, you clearly don't know what it means.

>>376984838
Go back to your ubishit babby game

So whens the actual release ?

>>376984958
yea I'm probably mad that this company can release shit game after shit game and get praise
>>376984961
it still looks like a game created in a sweatshop
>>376984992
valve actually released some good quality games in their life time not something I can say about tripwire

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>>376975734
>player-hostile game mechanics

>>376985228
A blooh blooh.

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>>376985228
your original post™ made me think of this original meme™

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>>376985228
ahhahhahahahaahhahahahahaha

>>376973929
>inches from release

It has no release date.

>currently being mocked and torn apart by players

other than you? No.

>It's easily the most unbalanced, mechanically broken, and plain unfun shooter I've played since Warface

hohoho. So many big words. I love it how you can't back any of them up.

>No vehicles except helis
So?

>too many roles

Wait seriously?

>hit detection problems

lol no you just suck

> thrill of getting shot from 100+ meters

you suck. You made this thread because you're awful. Stopped reading here.

Don't try to rip apart a good game just because you suck, and if you do, at least back up your non-nonsensical arguments

>>376985387
>>376985348
>>376985474
well good luck playing your dead on release game

>>376985626
>literally hundreds of full servers for the pre-order beta

Enjoy missing out on a good game because you're awful at it.

Nice list of complaints there, so what you're saying is, its the sequel to red orchestra 1 ? I see

>>376985626
Good luck with your mental illness

how long is it gonna be 25% off for

>>376984838
KF, KF2, RO2 and RS are great though

>>376985798
till release

The game is fun but it's nowhere near in a release type state. The problem is I know tripwire won't do what they say they will, the game won't change from its current form if it gets full release. Sounds are fucked, there's a lack of content like vehicles and maps, and a lot of other issues that need to be addressed.

One of you faggots got into a match and did nothing but bitch and whine about the game without doing anything. Gloating about how your hot shit in RO2 and bringing up forum posts.
Just fuck off already.

>>376984838
>literally 3 FPS military games
>all of them significantly different and released at least 5+ years apart

it's so obvious how mad you are that you're not good enough to play this game.

Are you using a controller by chance friend? Shooters are meant for mouse and keyboard.

>>376973929
>And they want $30 for it.
Really? I pre-ordered it for half the price.

>>376973929
I don't know what you're talking about, faggot OP.

I'm having a blast

>>376975490
>NV get tanks

What the fuck are you smoking

If anybody gets tanks it should be the burgers

Out of all these recent historical fps's released im enjoying this game a lot! Put a crap ton of hours into insurgency but day of infamy is pretty lack luster and feels empty. That being said the gun sounds in that game are orgasmic. The map design in this game is so refreshing, the health of player balancing on either a few hits or 2 well placed shots is really a nice touch. Seriously ive stopped a player dead with a 9mm in 1 shot to the chest, versus that clip of ak i blasted into some dude. Really emphasizes accuracy but at the same time suppression plays a big deal. The depth is all here, they just need to tweak balancing and the game will be amazing.

>>376986145
NVA should be able to get field guns at the edge of the map that they can push wherever.

Motherfuckers were wizards at moving artillery through seemingly impassible jungle.

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>>376976545
>Allow helis to play music from a players personal folder

What? Fuck no. Imagine all the weeb shit, it would totally ruin immersion.

Just do the obligatory Ride of the Valkyries/Fortunate Son etc. Hell they could probably add different tracks in the cosmetics shop.

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the movement being so clunky is making it hard to have fun

>>376985798
buy it on kinguin for like $13

>>376986301
Commanders can call in off-map artillery support. Who the hell would want to play as a shell loader anyway?

>>376985902
>there's a lack of content like vehicles and maps

you do realize it's a beta? There will probably be more maps in the final game. Vehicles are fine, it's always been an infantry based series and Vietnam was an infantry based war.

>>376986301
Thats because they dissembled their artillery and moved it by hand.

>>376973929
>and it's currently being mocked and torn apart by players
Remember never to believe /v/. Here's an prime example

>>376986396
I think direct fire artillery would be pretty awesome but I'm not sure the buildings in the game are destructible enough.

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>>376974724
>defending shit game design

I really hope the player count stays for this game. Seeing RO2 under 300 players made my heart sink.

>>376986524
>anon uses logic
>"STOP DEFENDING SHITTY DESIGN!"

so autistic

>>376973929
>it's currently being mocked and torn apart by players

fucking where? Proof?

>>376986558
it's still easy to get in a game

>>376986650
Not if you're a yuro or Australian. I can't be bothered playing with silent germans and drunk Russians in my realistic war gaems.

>>376986619
OP is fake news.

>>376974185
Maybe Tripwire can come in with a proper RO2 sequel and show them how its done.

>>376986419
They're projecting to release the game within the next months or so, and knowing tripwire I doubt they've made any maps. M113 would be nice on some larger maps, and maybe add vehicles for the gooks on said big maps.

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>>376986593
>trying to use real life to justify shitty game mechanics

>>376986886
no it's called using logic autismo

OP suicide watch

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I've already put 14 hours into the beta according to Steam. It's pretty fucking good.

OP is gay and stupid.

>>376986948
His logic is using reality as a basis, either way it's still bad game design.

i've been playing the beta, its really fun. if a few small things get ironed out by release ill be very excited to play.

>>376987883
>His logic is using reality as a basis

This is literally the dumbest thing I ever read. I mean seriously

>his logic is based off logic

you do realize it's trying to be a realistic FPS right?

but of course you do, you're just arguing for the sake of it at this point.

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>Rising Storm 2 and Quake Champions in the same year
YES

>>376987949
Using realism to justify shitty game drain has been around forever, and it's a sign of someone who can't properly argue their points.

Also see >>376984350
Another game that aims for realism and handles the same situation much better. He's just being a pissbaby because someone found legit criticism against a game he likes.

>>376988527
>Using realism to justify realism doesn't make any sense!

you are just so fucking stupid I can't even.

>>376974551
compound compound is doo doo

>>376973929
>spawns dont dynamically change

Are you retarded

>run 300-500m

Yep you are

>>376988527
>realism isn't a good justification for realism
what the fuck is your argument even

>>376989396
He's complaining a series that focuses on realism is focusing on realism.

>>376973929
No shit, while playing this game, I randomly moved forward, and then for some reason my keyboard decided to reformat itself to be azerty. Was fucking weird, I had to reboot my PC

>>376973929
>expecting anything more than RO:Vietnam

You are literally lying to yourself if you thought this game was going to have shit like jeeps or fucking jets in it or some shit

>>376989785
Maybe you should have bought the game my swashbuckling amigo :P

>>376990009
>pirating a multiplayer only game with anti-cheat shit out the ass
>:P
You're an idiot and you need to get out

>>376989146
>>376989396
>why can't you accept that a bad game is just bad?

>>376987961
Is that a facerig facecam?

>>376990986
This is an 18+ website. Come back in 4-5 years

>>376992119
>get called out on his stupid shit
>pulls out le epic underage b8 maymay
So how many rageface and pepes do you have?

>>376992201
It was a joke you turnip. If you weren't so obviously underage you'd get it

>>376992323
Should I be posting in reaction images for you?

>>376992375
I honestly don't give a fuck what you do kiddo

Didn't people say the exact same things about RO2? What were you people expecting?

>>376973929
I just played it for 10 hours this weekend and had a blast. I disagree with almost everything you wrote. It needs some work, but it's well worth $22 or whatever i bought i for.

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>learn how to fly choppers
>got the hang of flight and lining up gun runs
>now practising landings
>pic related

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>shitty maps
>shitty gunplay
>supremacy is shit
>launching with 5 maps only
>Graphics look worse than Red Orchestra 2
>UI designed by a child, red and green clashes with the green environments ALL the fucking time, I could design a less obnxious UI

Just play Squad instead

>>376994042

Hello squad poster, how are you today? Have a (you), it's on the house.

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>>376994217
thanks anon

>>376973929
Ro2/RS is the best multiplayer FPS of all time. I will bet this will be top tier as well.

>>376994042
Squad and Red Orchestra scratch different itches. I choose to play them both.

>>376984838
it's an improvement in every way on Rising Storm.

>>376974724
No, guns aren't magic, they are fucking physical objects you hold with two hands to manipulate and aim effectively.
Yet in a video game, you can't raise your body and the weapon a mere inch or two to make it physically clear the obstacle; no, you have to go from "crouch" to "stand" and expose your whole body to shoot over it in a video game.

Projectiles being offset to emulate "coming from the barrel" are a stupid gimmick that only fucks with players who only have very limited control over the movement and posture of their character model. It makes sense in a tank which is exactly what you get control-wise, but not something as complex as human locomotion when the game doesn't give you anywhere near that level of nuance.

If you aren't going to implement useful functions like stance variations, barrel collision detection and smooth leaning so that your barrel clearing an obstacle is a natural thing, make the projectiles come from your camera, right down the sights. Fucking mods of UT99 have done that kind of shit forever ago.

>>376994731
>i like game x
>there's nothing redeeming about pile of shit that is game x
Really activates your makes-think

>>376974724
>lol realism
You wouldn't point a gun at a wall in reality if you were gonna shoot over it
You wouldn't get fucked by a knee high obstacles because devs forgot to make them vaultable
I'm not even gonna talk about stuff like invisible walls in some places because I assume they'll get fixed right after they fix scope bug that exists since RO2 :^)

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>>376995951
I'm saying that RO2/RS are great while RS2 is a pile of shit, retard

>>376973929
its literaly red orchestra vietnam skin

i dont see the problem, felt the same as before and i enjoyed my time spent in the beta

>Dawn of War III is out
>wah wahh it's not the same!
>Rising Storm 2 is out
>Wah wahh it's the just the same!

>/v/ shitting on a popular game

Just preordered it cause of this thread.
Thought you should know OP

>>376996490
>Rising Storm 2 is out
>Wah wahh it's the just the same!
Who're you greentexting exactly?

>>376996563
Who are you quoting?

>>376996563
>>376984838

>>376996563
>>376996754
haha epic memes

>>376991901
yep

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>>376985626
What a sad cunt you are.

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>>376994042
>>shitty maps
way better than squad
>>shitty gunplay
at least i can shoot stuff instead just driving around for 50min to get instagibbed by random faggot wanking in the bushes and then yelled by some random amerifat monkey why we have died just because game is fucking dead as fuck in europe
>>supremacy is shit
?
>>launching with 5 maps only
5 well made maps are tons better than your shitty flat squad maps
>>Graphics look worse than Red Orchestra 2
heh, you haven't even played this game
>>UI designed by a child, red and green clashes with the green environments ALL the fucking time, I could design a less obnxious UI
kek being this dumb, squad is so shit that it's dead, you have to deal with it

>>376997261
>way better than squad
Come one now anon. I love RS2 but it's maps are weak and a couple of them are downright shit. It's going to be a bumpy few months until those custom maps start rolling out.

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>>376973929

Meh, the general opinion is that it's very good albeit a few issues.

You're that one autistic guy who just bitch all the time about Tripwire... You're the one who pretend thousands refunded KF2 and it's a bad game as well am I right?

You should probably kys.

>>376985228

Man you're pathetic.

You realize nobody gives a shit about you and your little crusade against Tripwire right?

Plenty people have fun on KF2, they'll have fun on RS2 as well. Nobody is asking for your opinion, we can judge for ourselves.