Blizzard to upgrade Warcraft 3

>>376965003

>updating a 20 year old game because your new games suck nigger dicks

>>376965003
They're probably fucking with the game because they completely lost all knowledge of what made WC3 playable and are trying to make WC4. So they're going to tweak the game a bit, play with it, maybe stroke its cock and balls a bit before completely fucking it in its ass to see what they can learn from the experience when they make WC4. Plus if they destroy WC3 then less competition with WC4.

Are they hyping people up for War4 announce?
Looks like RTSkino is back on the menu, boys

if you could find 4v4 random matches I would play again a little, change the maps up a bit, add a new hero or two, update the graphics a bit, add a few new items, few new creep camps and critters.

>>376966023
>>376966023
yes

it's what david kim left sc2 team to work on

>>376965003
>lets just ruin our legacy games too

>>376965003
I'd be ABSOLUTELY THRILLED to get back to play some Warcraft 3 for nostalgia sake, I tried to install it when they announced the Starcraft 1 revival but my modern computer isn't compatible with that ancient technology, some kind of weird driver errors.

>>376965189
>>376965642
>>376966023
>>376966089
It's because they have a WC3 Remastered HD planned after SC:BW remastered. It's still super popular in China.

>>376965003
$10 that they will completely break cutom maps.
Last time I checked people were using frameworks that hacked directly into game memory to provide functionality.

I would love an build that doesn't need hours of tweaking to run on modern computers, widescreen support would also be nice.

This is surreal.

>>376965003

Been playing more Warcraft 3 lately, so this is welcoming news.

That WC4 announcement is gonna be great tho.

>>376966569
I really doubt wc4 is a RTS

>>376966023
I predict three factions: Alliance, Horde, Burning Legion
Forget the WoW-retconning bullshit I see longing for in every wishful-thinking thread

>>376965003
Weird.
But I'm ok with this.
Except that last week I tried to get online, it said there was a new partch but I couldn't download it. I'm going to need to reinstall and download patches again, annoying.

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>>376965003
Interesting. Sounds good, I wonder if they are planning any graphical improvements too.. And engine upgrades. But even /v/ hates warcraft 3 so I'm sure the thread will turn to shit about how good things were in the old days.

>>376966761
What the fuck else would it be? FPS? Action RPG?

>people unironically thinking this is related to a posible future wc4
they are just trying to get all the kids that never heard/played it to get acquainted with wc3 characters to they can push more costumes on hots

>>376966889
Phone app a la Dungeon Keeper.

>>376966889
A rape fest.

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>>376966368
>Last time I checked people were using frameworks that hacked directly into game memory to provide functionality.
Yeah, that seems like a likely and sucky actual problem. I don't know how easy or if it's even possible to update a lot of the frameworks, the maps that depend on them, or if Blizzardvision would even want to try to support the kind of custom scene there once was in its modern form. That'd suck though because custom was by far the most awesome and longest last part of WC3.

Having said that I will allow myself one tiny tiny tiny it of optimism: with SC:BW Remaster they kept the exact same engine and just made an updated graphics version and made it run on modern systems, to the point where someone running free will be able to play the same game with someone running the 4k graphics pack. That kind of level of cross compat might be harder with WC3 because that's an actual 3D engine, not just sprites, it's far more complex to tinker with inherently. Still though they could have fucked SCBW:R much harder if they'd wanted and they didn't. So maybe there is some hope that WC3 might be kind of ok.

>>376966368
use WC3 version switcher

>people unironically thinking this is related to a possible future wc4
they just want to get all the kids that never heard/played it to get to know wc characters so they can push hots costumes

>>376965003
Cool. I'm glad Blizzard supports all their games instead of just trying to cover them up with new game after new game like Ubisoft.

>>376966786
WoW only had 2 factions for convenience. Burning Crusade was originally going to introduce a third faction led by Illidan and Kael'thas. They ended up becoming the villains of the expansion instead. But even the horde made no sense because the Forsaken were apart of it.

But Warcraft 4 probably won't happen for a while.

Never played WC3 beyond campaign. Does the slower pace of battles mean you don't get instantly destroyed by people who play nothing but RTS's like in Starcraft?

>>376966889
something easy for mmo players, warcraft is a kids franchise now

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>>376965189
has it really been 20 years? i don't want to google it and check

>>376966883
>But even /v/ hates warcraft 3
Wc3 is probably the ONLY game on /v/ I don't see people shitting on.

>>376967454
you slowly get beaten by people who know build orders and how to properly play.

It's not like it magically changes. You just don't get raped as badly.

>>376967478
15 years.

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>yfw Blizz updates the world editor terms to own everything mapmakers create a la sc2

>>376965003
But will they nerf Frost Wyrms?

>>376965189
Pretty sure they planned to do this regardless of the current game's popularity.

I mean, Blizzard could have just released shit sequel after shit sequel and made probably more money than they would doing this.

>>376967704
nah they let wc3 stagnate for a long fucking time. this is new

>>376966883
>/v/ hates warcraft 3
What alternate timeline of faggotry are you posting from? WC3 custom scene is one of the beloved bits of classic vidya /v/ has always liked and has had a bit of continuous stubborn die hards long, long after everyone else moved on and blizzard started fucking everybody.

>>376965003
If we can't zoom out I don't even give a fuck. I'm sick of blizzard and their games that feel like you have your nose smashed against the monitor for the sole reason of increasing the difficulty by making you scroll more.

>>376965003
Looks like it's Warcraft 3 that's going to be remastered next.
Too bad, I was looking forward to Diablo 2 Remastered.

>>376967786
They let it stagnate because they didn't have a dedicated team for updating classic games before.

I don't get how re-releasing games in HD is any different from this or somehow more desperate.

>>376967463
Warcraft was always a babby-tier RTS though

Most of /v/ played Warcraft 3 when they were in their preteens, which is why it's so beloved.

>>376965189
>they don't update their old games
FUCK NU-BLIZZ THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT CASH COWS
>they update their old games
FUCK BLIZZ THEY HAVE TO UPDATE OLD GAMES BECAUSE THE NEW ONES SUCK

You bitter faggots are never happy

>>376965003
I never ever bought WoW, AO was much better and older with more mature community. I hope they completely ignores wow shit in wc4. They should make an open world RTS

>>376967650
>next Dota AllStars patch uses the world editor
>Blizzard now owns Dota

>>376965003
>oy vey we're not making as much money
>sigh...okay, let's go ahead and updated WC3
>HEY GO-I MEAN, GAMERS, WE WENT AHEAD AND UPDATED YOUR OLD FAVORITE GAME. WE SURE DO LOVE IT, STAY TUNED AND WE MIGHT DO ANOTHER REMAKE, FOR A PRICE OF COURSE....
fuck neo-blizzard. I fucking hate them now and so do all their old fans.

Reminder that WARCRAFT 4 will have all the things that ruined Warcraft.
It will carry the story from WoW that a lot of the War3 players have never experienced
Worgen
Spaceship protoss
Pandas (the brewmaster was just 1 joke unit and doesn't count)

>>376967856
It even spawned an entire genre of itself

>>376967454
>Does the slower pace of battles mean you don't get instantly destroyed by people who play nothing but RTS's like in Starcraft?
Define "instantly", relatively quick rushes are still possible if you suck enough though not on BW speed exactly. It's not BW or SupCom but WC3 still has a plenty high skill ceiling and if you are bad then sure you might last much longer, but it'll just be a function of the noose tightening around your neck more slowly, simply be a delayed execution. You'll be in an effectively unrecoverable position probably before you know it if you play someone really good. So same as any other RTS try to stick to 1v1s of around your skill unless you want a challenge or are learning, or else try to stick to teams where overall skill for each is reasonably balanced.

And either way you'll have to put in a least some time to learn it to be even average-tier. It's still a full RTS, not a total casualfest.

>>376968167
I never played WoW so when I started playing hearthstone I had no idea who 90% of the characters were.
If War4 assumes you know what is going in these other Warcraft games, it will be shit. A lot of us don't know what happened to arthas after he merged with the lich king.

>>376965003
>Editor updates

OH FUCK

>>376967097
That map was so much fun. Wish it got more players back in the day.

>>376968167
As if they were ever going to slash the existence of their premier game for another Warcraft's setting
That was always a daft pipe-dream on the part of anyone with a WoW-grudge

>>376968380
Plenty of us went into WC3 not knowing any of the characters at all, and that never stopped it from being a stellar game

>>376968261
Not even close to wc2 level of MP in terms of skill

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>editor updates
maps must be approved by blizzard

>>376968018
Blizzard sucks. get over it.

>>376967571
>slowly

If he scouts you and sees that you're slow he'd tower rush you within a couple of minutes. War 3 is only slowpaced when both enemies keep each other on their toes constantly, aggressively scout, attempt creepjacks and contest objectives. But that also makes it intense, so you don't notice the time passing.

>>376968619
War3 came out when manuals were still a thing
its manual was great and had the story

>>376968674
>editor updates
>centralized map distribution and top 10 list

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>>376965003

>nu-blizzard making changes to the Wc3 editor and balance

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>376968126
>WC3 remaster gets announced
>WC3 goes free
Fund it

>>376968167
>>376968380
Yeah, I remember being deeply into WC3 and still BW when WoW was just announced, but it never looked like something I wanted and back then I kind of assumed it'd be simply another entry in the series, this thing off to the side that could be ignored and in another 4 years or something we'd have a proper WC4 continuing things. I was fine with that. How innocent I was back then.

I have since never played WoW even once, though it's been impossible to avoid finding out about some of the bullshit in it since I don't live as a hermit. To have any hope at all though I think WC4 would need to be a clean AU break, they should just plain segment the RTS and MMO universes rather then try some awkward merger. That makes more sense anyway since the playerbases are also pretty divergent, if they want it to be awesome they should make sure each team has the power and flexibility to make it the best it can be within its own genre not be tied into some overall bloated narrative. And they do have some form for resets.

To be clear I don't expect any of that, probably they'll try to incorporate wow lore and probably it'll be shitty. I'm just saying that in principle nothing stops them from just doing WC4 directly from the end of WC3 (or with some small number of years of timegap but completely different from WoW). If they did there might still be hope if they have anyone (or can find anyone) who can do something good again and corp overlords don't fuck everything.

>>376968167
you'll still play it though.

>>376968018
as long as their new games suck? Yes I don't see the problem

this is good news though. WC3 is one of their only games worth playing

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>>376968897
>Lord Garithos has been removed due to the politics of current year. Racism has no place in blizzard games.
>The human paladin is now black and has also been revoiced
>The tolls in the game no longer have jamacian accents, and no longer chuck spears

Have fun!

>>376965003
Guess its only a matter of time until we see a Diablo 2 remaster then.

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They should remake Warcraft 1-3 in the Starcraft 2 engine, then make Warcraft 4.

>>376968674
>editor updates

>the world editor can now only be used online

WHO HAS A LINK TO THE WARCRAFT 2 HD MOD THAT WAS TAKEN DOWN THE DAY OF RELEASE

I KNOW SOMEBODY HAS A MEGA LINK

I'm going to file a lawsuit.

>>376969159
Haha what about, matey

For what?
Because they don't want to make WC4?

>>376969242
Unprecedented jewing.

>>376968674
They're not doing that with SC:BW remaster though. Maybe they won't with WC3 either because they'll be too cheap and lazy.

>>376969265
Wc4 is like hl3, it's been so long I don't even care anymore

>>376969101
>Diablo is now female as in Diablo3
>The Cow King has now been renamed the Cow Leader to not assume its gender
>andariel has had her boobs covered up
>Wirts leg has now been removed to not offend the disabled

>>376969349
>Line where Jimmy says he will KILL Kerrigan is removed
>SCVS are now more black
>Fenix is removed
>Overmind dindu nuffin like in SC2
>Added 300 lines of dialogue to install romance between Kerrigan and jimmy because there was literally none before SC2 came out

>>376969109
You think you do, but you don't.

Someone needs to stop this shitheel of a company.
This is unacceptable.

>>376969378
>>Diablo is now female as in Diablo3
Alright now there's an actual reason behind that one beyond BS, and considering how Diablo looks in HotS, they're definitely not making it retroactive.

>>376969554
>Overmind is a dindu
No he fucking isn't. Out of the entire crapshow that was the Epilogue, it at least made it pretty straightforward that the Overmind was evil.

>>376967479
>>376967856
Give it time. You'll find someone that posts once a few days and post a plethora of 'problems' with the game, to the point where he never liked it to begin with
I've seen it happen with SC1 and it'll probably happen with WC3 as well

>>376969109
so that warcraft would join the other blizzard IPs that have been raped?
>SC2
>wowtcg
>D3
They can do videogames for shit now.
Just look at HotS, it is supposed to be DotA2.

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I remember visiting all the fan sites looking at the alpha screens when it was first announced.
I wonder how it would have been if they kept it with much smaller armies and RPG like.
Actually now that I think of it, it was kind like DOTA before they decided on what WAR3 actually became

>>376969554
where are you getting this, it's not out yet. or is this the free version?

>>376970093
>I wonder how it would have been if they kept it with much smaller armies and RPG like.
You mean like the Frozen Throne orc campaign? Because they did that and it was actually pretty awesome, it wasn't all done on release but they kept doing more until they got it done, for free. These days that probably would have all been paid DLC.

>>376970094
He's making implications, friend

>>376969749
>Implying possessing a female would make THE FUCKING LORD OF TERROR have breasts, child-bearing hips and walk like a woman on a catwalk.

>>376969957
It's a good game ruined by Koreans and autists over hero-meta

It'd be nice if the update the Cinematics to not gray out and look like shit on Windows 7 and up.

>>376970245
It does if my dick demands it

>>376968126
>make new product
>WOOOOW FUCKING NEO BLIZZ
>provide support to 15 year old product
>WOOOOW FUCKING NEO BLIZZ

I hope you get hit by a bus

>>376970094
>Blizz said they were changing a few linez
>New portrait is a bit more black, mostly since it's clearer
>Bullshit
>Bullshit
>Kinda bullshit, but see first point

>>376970245
Well Andariel is in there too, but generally a demon possession would probably work like that anyway.

>>376970240
fuck his greentexting faggotry then. if blizzard actually made those changes then yes that'd be it (trivial to mod them back to the old but it'd show blizz was not changing and sink all hopes for anything new) but no need to bullshit wrt the obvious fact that pessimism is the most warranted reaction right now.

>>376970417
>break custom maps, ruin balance for $$$
>this is somehow "support"

kill yourself blizzdrone, good blizzard is dead

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>>376970449
>Blizz said they were changing a few linez
I predict cringe.

https://youtu.be/SCcnd1WJVCo
FUCK YOU METZEN

>>376970714
wow tell us more about the future, anon. is that new mario game worth a damn?

>>376970781
>https://youtu.be/SCcnd1WJVCo

SC2 lore was sooooooooo shit holy fuck.

>>376966368
Blizzards done that a few times in the past already. The last patch they did to up the map limit also broke the unit order triggers until they did a quick fix a little after.
That's not mentioning the time they broke all of maps years ago with another patch so yeah expect a lot of classic maps being broken soon.

>>376968167
>Pandas
They count whether you want them to or not faggot

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>>376971013
>>376970781
>Tfw I actually kinda like how 'Fenix' was handled in LotV
>Tfw I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here who does

>>376971354
I liked robo-fenix.

>>376971354
He wasn't even MENTIONED in SC2. They only put him in the expansions because everyone complained that he was a large character in SC1 who they seemed to have forgot about.

>>376970093

These screenshots bring back memories

I was a teen, and visited Warcraftiii.net frequently

>unit cap

No fucking thanks.

Does the game support arbitrary resolutions, framerates and aspect ratios yet? If not, that should really be their top priority.

>>376971578
me too

>>376971572
>First two expansions are focused on Non-Protoss, years after BW
>"WHY AREN'T THEY MENTIONING THIS MAJOR DEAD PROTOSS CHARACTER?!"

>>376967679

>implying they need a nerf

get out of 4v4 RT anon

>>376971013
The writers are all gone now, no?
And this was in metzen's 'darker edgyier' years, apparently, so now that he had a bigger role in SC2's story, he made it all roses and sunshine.

>>376971354
>Bring Fenix back
>His memories are from before he met Raynor
I hate it

Warcraft IIII soon

>>376971903
IV*

>>376971862
See that's the thing, Artanis notices and is instantly gets irked by it, especially when they go to Korhal, where the existential crisis starts. It was all a matter of when the bubble popped and how he reacted to it.

>>376967454
Its an RTS game. If you don't know how to play you're gunna get raped. Turtling or being too slow will mean you're fucked.

Wait, actual wide screen support too?

>>376971752
You get great writing like
>Zeratul: I BRING TIDINGS OF DOOOOOOOOOOM

Sc1 Zeratul was 100000000 times better
https://youtu.be/1O9uRPC3mxc

>>376970042

>tfw HotS is unironically their most polished and fanservice game

I guess it isnt that hard when it's a MOBA and the most streamlined at that, but I've been DotA free for 5 years now.

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>>376972104
>HotS's director gives literally zero fucks about media and lets the devs do whatever they want, as long as it works

Literally Blizzard's best game right now.

>>376969080
You don't even know Uther's name.

Get the fuck out of this thread

>>376970875
look at diablo 2 "support" they broke PlugY, the best mod for that game

i guess noone can recognise patterns and use them to predict future events

Whatever happened to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rr1GpV2rCg

? This looked amazing

>>376966889
ARPG would be pretty cool IMO, But would they make it open world or linear, and would some one pick up the WHFB license to make a clone of what ever Blizz makes?

>>376972236

yeah I'm not even a shill but it isn't hard to be blizz's best when you're retconning shit in Legion and shelved your other 2 main franchises. OW has the normies and people who never followed blizz, it's fun every few months.

I can always play a couple games of HotS daily with a friend or two, nice to appreciate the work.

>>376972070
"Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? Your Conclave believes that they are winning this war, but all they've succeeded in doing is helping the Overmind to win."

"What could you possibly know about our designs, blasphemer?"

"You speak of knowledge, Judicator? You speak of experience? I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities... Unto my experience, Aldaris, all that you've built here on Aiur is but a fleeting dream. A dream from which your precious Conclave shall awaken, finding themselves drowned in a greater nightmare."

>>376972248
>the only human paladin is uther

could you be any more retarded?

>>376972070
RIP his voice actor. His voice was so watery too.

>>376972248
I was talking about in multiplayer. Your paladins get random names in MP you faggot

>>376969109
If only we had the starcraft source code we could've done that ourselves...

>>376969158
I do

>Tfw Anub'arak's VA is isolated to Abathur and not the TRAITOR KING

just like in hots

>>376972248
He was talking about the generic paladin hero.

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15 years in and it still only takes minutes to get a full custom game going. love it

>>376972070
SC2 Zeratul sounds like a crazy old man

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>>376972439
So we're getting black Arthas?

>>376972609
He kinda is one.

>>376972481
He was badass. The SC2 zeratul is not scary at all, he just seems like a crazy old man yelling about prophecies and other stupid shit.
He says THE SHAAADOW and THE VOOOIDDD so many fucking times...

>>376972584
That makes me so mad. Anub arak's voice was fucking steve blum and he was doing abathur too, he was fucking available jesus it makes me so mad that one of my favorite characters has a voice that's just so fucking wrong.

wotlk ruined so many things

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>>376972434

>>376965003

lol they will chafe the fuck out of their own assholes pulling out any possible idea that isn't "vanilla wow servers" because of their stupid fucking "you think you do but you don't" comment and not wanting to eat crow (which they are anyways)

they should all die. they should all be assassinated by jesus christ himself and go to hell.

>>376972685
*and that they changed it anyway
fuck I needs some sleep

>>376972685
>Anub arak's voice was fucking steve blum
Remember when Steve Blum pretty much voiced half of an entire game in DoW2? That got kinda old.

>>376971295
this is AoS tier dicksucking

>>376967903
>They let it stagnate because they didn't have a dedicated team for updating classic games before.

>they let it stagnate because they let it stagnate

What?

>>376966023
possibly

dustin browser was the lead of the HOTS until the end of last year and said that he switched teams to work on an unannounced project

They need to remake War1-3 to show that orcs are actually innocent and did nothing wrong and it's actually the evil, racist humans that did everything wrong.

>>376972918
Sure, but those characters didn't have much filters, I didn't even recognize blum in WC3

>>376972931
Not him but MoP was the best WoW had been for awhile, especially in terms of world lore.

>Mantid
>Y'shaarj
>Mogu
>Mother fucking Lei Shen
>Zandalari
>Bit of the Saurok

Sure SoO was kinda bad but the rest of MoP was pretty good.

>>376971285
>That's not mentioning the time they broke all of maps years ago with another patch so yeah expect a lot of classic maps being broken soon.
wasn't that necessary because faggot russians were embedding map files with viruses and shit?

>>376973243
He was Rexxar too.

>>376973352
>Not him but MoP was the best WoW had been for awhile, especially in terms of world lore.
I disagree. MoP could have been better if china wasn't butthurt that pandaren from the getgo also included different asian cultures
So they made it to chinese culture/history exclusively and foregone everything else.

>>376973234
>Neo blizzard
they probably will
orcs dindu nuffin
evil white humans are the baddies

>>376968167

>worgen are bad but dreadlords that are literally just vampires are okay

Whatever, bud.

Does this mean there will be people who want to play Conventional WC3 Multiplayer?

I love WC3 much more than Starcraft, leveling heroes for battle was fun as fuck.

>>376973352
I love newly invented lore too in the name of new and fun places to explore in my fantasy world!

>>376970781
I had forgot how fuckign SMUG raynor is

>i'll be seeing you ^_^

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>Still no Widescreen patch

FUCK YOU

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>>376973352
I get why people say this but I didn't give a shit about any of that. I didn't get into Warcraft lore because of some panda bears fighting mantis people. Having way more fun with current WoW than muh ancient mogu prophecy shit.

>>376973352
>>376973454
MoP was good that it introduced some new shit that was independent from the clusterfuck that makes up the rest of WoW's lore at least initially

>>376973452
Oh yeah, you're right
>Find blum's website
>send him an email and ask if he was a character in warcraft 3, 2011
>very informal, reacted almost within a day;says he doesn't remember doing it
he voices so many characters he sometimes forget it.
really cool guy though

>>376973352
>MoP was the best WoW had been for awhile, especially in terms of world lore.

hahaha

>>376973454
I didn't know about that, but it is fairly clear that Pandaren were (Somewhat ironically) the weakest part of MoP's Lore, by a wide margin. Them and the Mongol proxies were a bit lacking.

>>376971741
What abotu the part where the main character of the first expansion pledged to kill the main character of the second expansion because said main character murdered Fenix?

A revenge story for a murdered friend lose a fair bit of edge when you suddenly forget the murdered friend

>>376973413
I think that was the first one, if memory serves it was done at least twice. I don't remember the reason for the second one as it's been years and I don't want to go through all of the patch notes.

>>376973772
The mogu's were a nice reference as to how the chinese got fucked over by the manchu's

>>376973234
>The orcs were a noble race
>OOGA BOOGA WHERE THE HUMAN KINGOMS AT

>>376973782
Hence the
>Years after BW
Raynor had his focus diverted to fighting Mengsk, and considering how bad off it was he had been drinking hard. On top of that, Kerrigan up and disappeared after BW, making the getting revenge part seem even more impossible.

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>>376973782

>>376973896
>The mogu's were a nice reference

You mean an extremely heavy handed reference, like everything else in MoP.

>>376973910
go to bed guldan

>>376973352
Mop was fucking garbage right from the start. I'm still mad that the intro makes you think it's going to focus on horde vs alliance, but then 95% of it is just "lol beer xDD" and the remainder is that one stupid faggot panda going "durr you should feel bad about trying to fight back against the horde and just let them genocide you btw we're currently in genocidal wars with like 5 different races that actually own this land we're squatting on". Pure fucking trash.

>>376973568

game is still alive anon just have to git gud/snoop around.

>>376974003

Stop scrabbling for excuses to defend bad writing you idiot

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>>376974080
>You mean an extremely heavy handed reference, like everything else in MoP.
Pretty much yeah

>>376974094
fuck off blackhand

>>376973896

HEY ANON I BET YOU DIDN'T NOTICE THIS BUT THE WALL IN MOP WAS ACTUALLY BASED ON THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA

10/10 WRITING BLIZZARD YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN

>>376966230
ohh
noooooooo
please no

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>>376974003

ANCIENT

PROPHECIES

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>>376974140
what? you didn't like the beer ALEemantals? XD

its amazing how very seldom you even run into a fucking panda on horde side. i forget they even exist until i go into a bg

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>>376973782

Blizzard could have made it work if they just wrote something along the lines of how he still hates Kerrigan for what she did, but that he has also over the years come to terms with that it was due to zerg influence and not really her fault.

For whatever reason they decided to leave that out entirely though.

>>376974394
>how he still hates Kerrigan for what she did, but that he has also over the years come to terms with that it was due to zerg influence and not really her fault
That's precisely what happened though. He hates the Queen of Blades, and he really hates that Kerrigan turned into her.

>>376974394
Begrudging work for 3 expac, then raynor fuckign murders the bitch once the campaign is done

Dark, but bro before hoes

>>376974531
>He hates the Queen of Blades, and he really hates that Kerrigan turned into her.

No she's the same person.

>>376974382
>Pandas join Horde
>YOU ARE PART OF THE HORDE NOW. YOU MUST SERVE ME UNQUESTIONABLY AND KILL YOUR BEST FRIENDS OR ELSE MY KOR'KRON WILL MURDER YOU AND FUCK YOUR WOMEN

>Pandas join Alliance
>So you may have to fight your friends and I'm sorry for that, NOW PUNCH ME IN THE FUCKING FACE. DO IT!

>>376974531

The writing doesn't make it clear is the issue. Wings of Liberty starts out with him missing her.

And even then he should have been a lot more furious than he was during Heart of the Swarm when Kerrigan decided it was a good idea to turn back into the beast she once was. His emotions don't make any sense given the circumstances.

So apparently, Rob Pardo no longer works at blizzard (was the lead game designer) And Frank Pierce is just busy weith business (lead director)

If Warcraft 4 or Starcraft 3 comes out, are we really going to have high hopes? I mean, Pardo did completely fucking ruin WoD, so even if he was at blizzard we're not sure if it would be a decent game.

>>376974768
>are we really going to have high hopes?

No, the people who made their old games good are long gone.

https://youtu.be/qBLv0qrDQcA?t=936
Pete Stilwell is in charge of blizzard new department of Classic game producer

they plan to slowly update old blizz games to newer pc specs.

>>376968702
No, I just think you suck. Prove me wrong, faggot.

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>>376967097
Oh wow someone saved my old pic.

>>376974768
>are we really going to have high hopes
it's blizzard

though I would still be very interested, their games are usually at least mediocre enough to take notice, and especially a new RTS

Why aren't you playing DoW 3, which is basically a higher skill cap SCII/spiritual successor to WC3?

>>376975058
Because its not a good game. Not at that price. Maybe I'll buy it when a new expansion hits.

>>376975140
How is it not a good game?

>>376974956
Literally all I want is modern resolution support + mouse sensitivity option for Diablo 2.

>>376975197
It's a weird hybrid between WC3, DoW 1 and Dota. Come on man don't be coy this isn't the first time you've argued with someone about DoW3.

>>376974669
how is she the same person when she was under mind control

>>376975317
Only time I've argued with a guy about it is when he says it's shit because it's a MOBA. Legit want to see why people think it's a bad game if they've actually played it or just spew /v/ memes.

Glad you could bake it, Uther

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Thoughts?

>>376965642
t. gay

>>376975510
SEE THE POWER

TASTE THE POWER

>>376975510
in chaos!

>>376975197
>Every match, a third of the game's units are denied to you

>>376975510
There's no way my toaster can handle the remaster

Oh boy, now a new custom games lobby full of DOTA HD.

>>376975510
Looks like he's gently jamming out to a rave.

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>>376971354

I was okay with Robo-Fenix. I like Lotv more then Hots except for all the Hyrbid making hard mode a massive bitch.

>>376975763
I thought the LotV cinematic was fucking amazing, but that's just me.

>>376975742
All the third world kids who play dota won't be able to afford it.

>>376975510
I've always wondered how on earth did protoss evolve to only speak telepathically and have no need for mouth. I mean I get it, they eat/drink by absorbing sunlight, but I really would like to see their genetic ladder. fasantig desu

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>>376974382
>look at this
>feel wonderment at what could be like it's the latest screenshot of wow in december of 98

Fuck me, I know better, so why?

>>376975763
Amazing

>>376975856
All blizzard's cinematics are godlike, that's one thing that never changed in their company existence

>>376976001
Likely from hefty Xel'naga intervention. Hell, the Khala was a Xel'naga implementation.

>>376976159
>Xel'naga
Oh right I forgot about that. I thought they, like humans, evolved on their own for millions of years.

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>>376974768
Blizzard North died a long time ago.

He was a cunning developer. And a good friend

>>376976259

Nah, Lotv outright says Amon brought the Protoss to their current level so he could make use of them in the future.

>>376976071
There were so many detailed custom maps/games for WC3. Huge ones that were complicated as fuck since there was no instructions when you began playing.

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>>376965003
>editor updates

i literally was just thinking how I'd love to do map editing again but probably won't because the game is dead nowadays

and then this

god fucking bless

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>>376976425
That's fucked up, and extremely long-term planning wise too.

And here I was thinking that making a custom game in dota 2 is a pain in the ass because valve is so fucking lazy in supporting it

Great news.

>>376975763

THIS IS GARNET

So since SC2 cleaned up Kerrigan to be an entry level Monster girl, what female character will get a redesign in WC4 (David Kim has to be working on something) to be an entry level version of some Blizzard artist's fetish?

>>376965003
Nobody's playing brood war
Nobody's playing frozen throne
Tens of thousands playing wow private servers

Its like they dont want money.

>>376977005
Pandas are already Samwise's fursona.

>>376965189

WC3 still has pro-tier tournaments in China. For some reason chinks really love the game.

>>376976808
BACK TOGETHA'

>>376977415
AND I'M NEVAH GOIN' DOWN AT THE HANDS OF THE LIKES 'A YOU

>>376966023
>Are they hyping people up for War4 announce?

Probably. They know braindead are gonna eat their shit regardless quality.

>>376977005
Sorceresses will be stacked MILFs. If this isn't anyone's taste on the remake team, then their taste is garbage.

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[WIND WALK NOISES]

>>376977009
lots of people are playing both of those games though.

>>376977317
Maybe because that game is amazing and there is yet a new strategy game to top it in terms of content and quality.

Man, I just now that if Blizzard or any other big studio attempted to make a new game as good as Warcraft 3 they would just fail so damn hard... That's actually a bad thing, because it's hard to move on when there is no other option to substitute it

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*blocks your peasants*

>>376972598
What realm do you play on? I'm on US East and most games are just empty bot-run lobbies.

>>376978452
There is a niche audience for RTS games now. Blame the cancer that is ASSFAGGOTS for it.

>>376977005
More Panda women

>>376978692
lol

>>376965003
Very interesting. I hope they actually do manage to make the game less of a chore to play, maybe I'll go back and replay it sometime.

They made so many advancements in the starcraft side it would be nice to see over here, like not having a limit to the amount of units you can select and shit.

>>376978692

>people are still this assmad about DotA
>they're probably not even aware that the only reason why Blizzard increased the file size limit for custom games is because DotA needed it and was too popular to ignore

>>376975386
>how is she the same person when she was under mind control

She wasn't mind controlled you fuckin idiot

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>>376974768

>thinking pardo was responsible for WoD

you're kidding right? he was ecstatic to rejoin the team after shitting out HS for something to do and then he's gone before beta is even over.

you could argue his intervention at what was set in motion caused his departure, but I sincerely doubt the guy behind all of their greats that made them what they are today decided to shit out microtransaction mounts in-place of reputation rewards and rush everything to fuck when he literally made WoW at it's inception.

sure people can lose their luster over the years but not like that.

>>376976469
thinking back, there really were

especially asian maps had ultra complex triggers and visual effects on spells that really shows how flexible the editor was

the power of autism pushed the custom map scene extremely far and it was one of the best parts of my adolescence being a part of the scene peak ca 2003-2006 and seeing all the very imaginative maps created by people with way too much free time

>>376979523

>legends ORPG Divinity
>figure out how to save and become a demigod>god
>host my own lobbies load my character and tax new players bases to prevent me nuking them from the heavens

good times

>>376979648
When I played Legends it enver had any save/load that I knew about, but it may have been added after a while

I fucking loved PK'ing people in the oldschool ORPGs before everything became a Defiance ORPG clone with save/loading forced co-op "grind your character to lv. 100" stuff.

>>376972070

Starcraft 2 "Zeratul" was basically space Deckard Cain

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>>376966276
>Remastered classic Dota
>Fewer engine limitations

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>>376965003
So is UD finally playable or is this still a game about 3 races and 80% of the player playing NE?

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>>376975058
>Why aren't you playing DoW 3, which is basically a higher skill cap SCII
Don't make me laugh, anon

>>376979442
If I were in his position, I'd have left too if the game couldn't be saved or when I realized the gameplay was ultimately flawed and inorganic

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WHASHUWANMEDO?

>>376980294
>There will be hour-long youtube videos going over how critical hit chance and turning rate aren't quite the same and why this means that remastered DotA All-stars is shit

>>376975058
>DoW
>higher skillcap than SC

There are a lot of reasons to hate sc2, like the horrible story, the non existent social battlenet or the dead custom game scene but if you seriously believe DoW has a higher skill cap you are completely deluded.

>>376979523

So much this.

>>376978497

Most underrated hero

>>376980328
>80% of the player playing NE?
Weird, I remember lots of people playing as orcs.

>>376980638
WHERESHUWANMEGO?

>>376980328

UD is competitive at the top, but is still underpowered in regular play. You need to play flawless to have a chance.

>>376981989
WHOSHUWANMEKILL?

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>mfw this will kickstart a new golden age of warcraft porn

>>376982153
Complete bullshit. Thanks for letting us know you don't actually play the game.

>>376982335
>new golden age of warcraft porn
>without horsecock draenei girls
Nah

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>>376979523
2003-2006 was great

>All those different flavor of the month maps that would come up and dominate the games list for a while
>DotA Allstars becomes flavor of the month
>It's fun for a while, enjoy cheese strats and just generally fucking around like deforesting the entire game
>Get bored of it, ready for the next fotm map to come along
>It never does

idk how it was on other servers but by 2008 USWest was like 90% DotA

>>376982509
>>376982335

Need more quality Sorceress r34

>>376976489
But it isn't.
wc3 mapping is fairly alive and active after the revival caused by SC2 being a piece of shit.

>>376982509
neck yourself

>>376982563
DotA killed the LAN party I used to go to around 2006. It got to the point where nobody would play any other games or even just regular War3 so I just stopped going.

>>376972598
How? Fucking ten years ago the game was already a ghost town, dota garbage literally killed it and 99% of custom games in the list were that horseshit while actually good maps got forgotten and lost in time.

>>376983498
Isn"t warcraft 3 occupied by hosting bots now?

>>376982993
do people still play enfos hero defense?

what about burgenog TD? Pass the Bomb 3.0?

if I made an oldschool ORPG where you can eliminate players by destroying their bases would anybody play it

Or is it just DotA out the ass with the occasional save/load RPG grind-'em-up?

I hear Warlocks was good and popular, but I think I quit playign around the time it came out. Demon's Souls claimed all my free time circa 2009/2010.

I hope if warcraft 4 ever comes, there will be lots of retcons. Like the high elves ever joining the horde for example. It made no sense.

>>376966276
>It's still super popular in China.
How did they deal with the entire undead race?

>>376983593
I have no idea, I reinstalled a couple of times over the years and nothing changed, 99% of the games were the putrid carcass that is dota. It's like a terminal cancer ended up turning the game into a zombie instead of letting it die with dignity.

Which means the custom maps will need to be updated even though the community is fragile and modders gone or dead. I just want to play my castle fight maps every other week

>>376984289
i was thinking about making a mod for Bonerlord that takes place with most of the vanilla WoW starting lore, minus WoW Horde and Alliance
so you'd have forsaken, blood elves, night elves, etc. all off on their own, where Kalimdor humans are all alone with no relation to Stormwind, and with pockets of Lordaeron/Arathi humans struggling to survive against the growing Forsaken influence

fuckin' two factions for the purposes of gameplay ruined it all

>>376984289

Why even get your hopes up like that? There's literally zero indication that Blizzard is going to abandon the lore introduced in WoW. In fact, they're doing the opposite by creating the Chronicles, which are the closest thing we've gotten to "official" lore, and it fully integrates everything introduced from WoW into the franchise's backstory. They're aren't going to do a sudden 180 and go back on all that.

>>376976489
how's its dead?

>>376969554
>there's a confederacy, and the only black guy you can make is a harvester
Why aren't the /pol/ posts about that?

Remember when Muradin merely suffered a flesh wound and became king of the frost dwarves.
Remember when there must always be a lich king.

>>376965003
>>376973627
>>376966443
Native widescreen support is all I want.

>>376985342

Because they're just shitposting.

>>376985828
I'd rather not

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>>376986661

Goddamn it I said SORCERESS R34!!!!11

>>376965003
They really should just retcon WoW. It's too much of a clusterfuck, and I think people would be happy to have Arthas/Illidan/etc back in the equation again. You could still integrate certain WoW characters, but you wouldn't be pigeonholed into the Alliance vs Horde dynamic and you wouldn't have to turn them into raid bosses.

>>376987967
WoW doesn't even have an Alliance vs Horde dynamic and hasn't for ~8 years. It's just the Horde and "neutral" Horde-sympathisers.

>>376988097
desu alliance vs. horde never made any sense to me after WC3

I remember seeing the promo material for WoW and it just didn't make any sense at the time

Horde and Alliance had united in fighting the burning legion, Arthas was obviously the bigger threat, there was no reason they shouldn't stay allied

Nightelves siding with humans doesn't even make any sense, there's no particular reason that NElves would be more inclined to join the alliance than the horde, I guess other than the horde are setting up camp in their front lawn. most likely they'd just be their own separate faction and still wanting everybody to fuck off.

I didn't play WoW much but I later heard that Jaina hates the Horde again and it fucking made me so mad reading about it.

>some horde people attack her village or w/e
>She decides to flood Orgrimmar, even though it was some small splinter group of the Horde
>she now hates Thrall and all the other members of the Horde she was friend with even though they had fucking nothing to do with anything

this is the most boring logic for making a character go from being the most sympathetic towards the horde to "gas the orcs now".. It just seemed like some really convoluted way to put drama into Jaina's storyline.

desu if WC4 ever came out I'd have to read through WoW's lore to catch up on the story and I would probably be mistaken for an alopecia patient afterwards, because of all the hair I ripped out

>>376965003
will the ai still be garbage?

>>376988792
it's just a case a game gende/mode/gameplay forces story

/r/ing that pic with a list of good WC3 customs

>>376966883
>that pic
>this smug son of a bitch
>"pop enrage"

>>376988880
you still play against ai?

>>376988792
In the context of WoW it's stupider that it took as long as it did since aside from the big bads, WoW is pretty much just about the orcs and forsaken fucking over the Alliance races while they just sit there and take it.

And Jaina gets pissed off because she keeps trying to be neutral even though the Horde keeps doing shit and then they use a magic nuclear bomb on Theramore.

>>376989389
Don't forget that Theramore happened after Garrosh executed a general for killing non-combatants.

>>376965003
>nuBlizzard vows to make WC3 as awful as their modern games

NO

STOP

STOP IT

>>376973808
From what I recall, the 2nd one was somebody found a way to effectively replicate the 1st one using a similar glitch that let people execute arbitrary machine code that is obviously a bad thing.

>>376967097
>>376974995
>>376968573
what map name is this look cool

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>>376965003

So what are the odds Blizzard cracks down on all the """""illegal""""" ripped models in custom maps?

warcraft 3's balance sucks shit anyways with how OP undead are, nobody gave a shit about it outside of china for a reason

>>376968018
Or Bliz could make a new game that isnt some garbage generic cash cow pop culture aligned microtransaction """(((game)))'''" with less depth than clash of the clans for the iphone.

>>376965189
oh shut up you nigger

>>376965003
i knew it they're going to update fucking everything EXCEPT war2 for FUCKS sake

and then they passively say like "ehhh we went back to those and theyre boooring" go fuck yourself blizzard

>>376992237
>tfw updated blackthorne but still no wc2

zugg...

>>376965003
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, the people who made those bad ass custom maps aren't around anymore to remake them. On the other hand, we'll get even better ones

...Right?

Just fucking release a new engine at this point you greedy jews, and shut down Hots : The map editor of the new warcraft game would kill dota and LoL anyday.

>>376979442
Anon he was in charge of the entire operation. You cannot tell me that he was strongarmed by Activision.

>>376992846
>professional level tournaments of wc3:HD DOTA
...I want this
so bad

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>>376992846
Just like the map editor of DotA2?

>>376992846
nobody would bother with the new map editor when game making engines are so easy and free these days.

>>376992846
Honestly I feel like WC3's mapmaking scene was lightning in a bottle. SC2 and Dota 2 both tried and failed to replicate it. It might just not be possible.

>>376992931
Dotas2 map editor sucked ass, was too technical and was updated weekly so that maps would need constant redevelopment to work

>>376993609
It wasn't possible because the warcraft lore + design was to good.
Also warcraft had some strong rpg elements :
Ppl wanna play as arthas, etc.
Dota 2 should have been made by Blizzard, but these guy were so greedy that they didn't care at all and were focused on their milky cow (WoW), that spending a penny on Icefrog was too much.

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>>376993887
Ok, but how do you know that won't be the case with WC4's map editor or if it will even ship with one?

>>376969109
>They should remake Warcraft 1-3 in the Starcraft 2 engine, then make Warcraft 4.
Starcraft 2 engine getting old and starts showing its performance problem in custom games, why update to it?
They should make a new engine with all the modern rendering solution like instancing, better culling, better shader optimization, deferred rendering etc etc.

>>376993609
>It might just not be possible.
has everything to do with the implementation of maps ingame. not only that but the dota 2 editor is too complicated for 99% of people. also dota 2 is not an rts and doesn't involve building things so for custom maps which involve building an entirely new ui has to be made around them.

>>376972301
They are still slowly working on it according to their FB page.

>>376994181
I dont know. I would assume though that they would expand on what's there and make triggers more versatile. Maybe add some scripting. As long as they dont fuck around with the little menus full of units and the user friendly UI it should be k.
But its blizzard so they will probably fuck it up

>>376993887
Sadly this. Valve is lazy/unmotivated to keep the map editor consistent instead of just rewriting everything. Its a small miracle there are -still- people working with the dota 2 map editor. Element TD is still the best thing on it.

>>376993982
>Dota 2 should have been made by Blizzard, but these guy were so greedy that they didn't care at all and were focused on their milky cow (WoW), that spending a penny on Icefrog was too much.
I bet that's among their biggest regret ever.
At any rate, I'm glad dota 2 exists. Albeit it in a more controversial state of existence (7.00)

>>376994532
>Element TD

Is this just a copy/paste of the WC3 Element TD?

>>376994730
I think so yeah, not like it needed much change anyway. Has a couple of new modes I think. Biggest problem is that it gets way too fucking laggy at later levels.

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>>376965003
>balance patch
>balance
>Blizzard
>balance

>>376967650
How is that legal? If people made copyrighted stuff on the world editor, wouldn't that spell legal trouble for Blizz?

>>376994581
Yeah I wish there's a Blizzard exec out there somewhere who cries himself to sleep every night while thinking of dota2.

>>376988792
Yeah, the Orcs were totally going to be best buddies with the Humans after all those decades of being slaves kept in interment camps. Right.

>>376965003
Can you at least make the Custom Game finder NOT suck as much dicks as Battlenet2.0's?

Just, don't fuck with it.
Or if you do fuck with it, add some kind of browser so you can look at all custom games by title / playercount / ping. Hosting games remains unchanged.
No matchmaking bullshit or having to register your map, thanks.

>>376984376
China dont mind the undead, they just dont want spoopy skellys walking around.

>>376966889
ASSFAG clone but single player and open world.

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>>376995753
Just add a search function where I don't need to get the exact title of the game so I can sift through shit that ain't dota clones, add simple genre tags for maps or when setting up to host and let me search by tag, fuck being forced to type in the exact name that some random host came up with.

>>376996005
I suppose a tag system would make sense, if it were limited to 5 tags to stop people from filling it with literally every tag. Partial search might help too.

But ultimately it lists EVERY hosted game (on your selected bnet server) by Title, Map, Playercount, Tags, and Ping to host.

>>376968921
wc3 is basically free at this point

who the fuck plays on battle.net in the current year? if you want to play ladder go play w3arena. it has WAY better ping, anticheat and supports widescreen.

>>376991820

Literally the weakest race in the game. Maybe with the balance changes we dont see demon hunter and blademaster in every single fucking game. Fuck those heroes, especially blademaster.

>>376966273
fuck off back to console gaming

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Soo uh..Night Ef or Blood Elf ladies?

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>>376992925

wc3 was never as well balanced as BW at a pro level. Orcs were nearly unstoppable and most games were decided by one battle because if a hero got to level 6, it was more or less game over.

Reminder that DOTA was a laughably bad map made by some kids without much idea about game design, balance and synergy between the skills and mechanics of a character. Yet it spread like cancer and killed our beloved game. This is what the majority wants.

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>>376997314
night elves.
>male average height is 2+ meters
>woman are 190cm+ average

GIVE ME MY BEASTIAL AMAZON TREE HUGGING MOONWORSHIPPING WOMEN futanari is optional

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>>376998254

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>blizzard rehash the same shit over and over again

WOW BASED BLIZZARD

>From Software or Nintendo
>fuck From fuck rehashing Souls million times fuck rehashing Mario

The eternal blizzcuck I will never understand this subhuman.

>>376965003
So can someone tell me the ups and downs of the races and their respective heroes?I never know which hero to pick.

>>376999468
orc or night elf. thats all you need. orc if you're a real new player and go blademaster and crit your enemies to death

>>376983498
you are just jealous because you cant play dota

>>376999468
>be undead
>stay alive long enough to mass frosties
>attack-move into enemy base
>win

>>376999468
>humans
>AA hero gives free infinite mana and can summon 3 free archer units, gets riflemen and MK and spellbreakers
>orcs
>cheese the enemy with blademaster, if you do it well you win, if you do it poorly you lose
>UD
>DK gives high speed and can heal, cryptfiends are tough and damaging, if you can hold on you can get 3 heroes to triple nuke, and get some obsidian statues to heal your entire army
>NE
>no idea
been years since I played though

>>377000683
NE was Demon Hunter and then build Huntress until you win.

>>376965003
Here is hoping for the resurrection of the WC3 community, fuck I the custom maps so god damn much

>>377000784
It still is? I first played a bit of NE when it was tyrande+hunteress spam but later switched.

I do remember against orcs you can spam DOTC and whirlwind cheese the game