>DUUUUUDE! SECOND PHASE FOR BOSS BATTLES WHO CAN READ INPUTS LMAO!

>>376950258
dude enemies with infinite stamina lmao xdd

Get well soon

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>>376950258
>>DUUUUUDE! I'M STRUGGLING TO BEAT THE EASIEST SOULS GAME LMAO!

>>376950258
>>376950840
>>376950956
>>376951072
>Dude, 4chan memes

How is 3 now that it's actually finished?

>>376951407
literal shit

>>376951407
Maybe you should fuck your own asshole and you might consider using your own time and figure it out, but first you have to stop fucking yourself

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>>376951608
Someone's trying a bit too hard.

I seriously doubt any Souls enemy reads inputs except for a select few smarter NPC spirits.

They are very easily outsmarted.

>>376951701
Takes one to know one.

>>376951407
Garbage. They finish off the franchise with like 20 swamps and enemies that all behave the same

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>>376951702
>mfw getting parried and riposted by npc

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>>376951778
I've been bamboozled, boys.

>>376950258
Game developers should start hiring machine learning engineers. Make a system that records fights against players and sends the data back to their servers. This data should then be used to train the model and upgrade the boss as time goes on.

>>376951072
1 is the easiest

BB>DaS>DeS=DaS III>Das II

They're all fun, and no game is less than an 8/10

>>376951702
I never had any problem with enemies reading inputs. Then again, dark souls pvp has taught me to do nothing but be passive and punish whiffs, so maybe there's no inputs for the boss to read when I'm waiting for him

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>>376951870

>>376950840
Those gay ass anime attacks get boring very quickly.

DUDE HE FLIPPIN AND DIPPIN AND ZIPPIN WHOA SO COOL BUT I CAN JUST IFRAME THROUGH EVERYTHING

>>376951891
They would need to get rid of infinite stamina first, otherwise the algorithm would eventually become a boss doing nothing but spamming the attacks with the fewest frames

>>376951981
Fuck the rolling in 3 jesus fucking christ.

>>376950258
The hardest thing about DS3 is actually realizing the game rewards mindless r1 spam with long staggers on bosses, once you realize the game isn't like the other Souls where defense and timing and position mattered, it was easy to just spam attack and roll to win.

>>376951883
You are just socially needy

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>>376951870
Kriemhild got me with this just a minute ago

>>376952083
They would just get parried every time, then.

Does anyone here doubt that this game will be praised to no end when the next soulslike releases?

>>376951891
>Game developers should start hiring machine learning engineers. Make a system that records fights against players and sends the data back to their servers. This data should then be used to train the model and upgrade the boss as time goes on.

But why? People play single player games because they enjoy the memorize and execute method of fighting bosses. Otherwise they could just play a multiplayer game. Also most video games aren't actually deep enough to avoid running into the problem of the npc units beating players into the ground purely on execution.

>>376952112
But that's the thing though. The game is "designed" around i-frame fuckery. Positioning and movement means jack shit because the enemy can always zoom up to you no matter what. They wanted it to be harder but they just made it cheap and oversimplified.

>>376952129
>the game isn't like the other Souls where defense and timing and position mattered
>DS1: "Let me put on this Havel set and swing 2h attacks all day without getting staggered or whatever"

>>376952129
I hate that this is true.

>>376952129
realised this today when a npc phantom was kicking my ass, I gave up and spammed r1 only to kill him 3 seconds later

>>376952417
It's not. The people who did that also did that in o e with havels. Spamming is not new

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>>376950258
>He doesn't summon 3 phantoms for every boss fight

>>376950258
The worst thing is that the first fucking boss of the game has the perfect example of how to do a second phase but no, gotta somehow refill the healthbar because it's epic.

>>376952571
yeah okay man

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>>376952273
Whatever, kid.

>>376952635
They didn't want people spamming r1 through the boss transformation animations

>>376952709
They spammed in one. Found a way to spam in two . And found a way to spam in three . Not big news, kid

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>>376951702
>mfw Jester Thomas
he would have been the best NPC invader if it weren't for literal /ourboy/ Maldron

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>>376951870

>>376951981
I know youre memeing but this is too true.

I beat Pontiff on my first try simply by spamming roll. I had no idea what his attacks were or what the fuck was going on but for some reason I was invincible even if I didn't time my rolls.

Fuck DaS3 lol

>>376950258
What is this meme even about? How could an AI react to your moves without reading inputs? did you want even enemy to just have random patterns and acted regardless of what you did??

>>376952770
Then how about, you know, make the boss intangible or undamageable during it?

>>376950258
If they can read inputs how did I beat them all?

>>376953026
Too bad you weren't on the devolpment team

>>376952635
what's the difference between refilling a health bar or just having one and doubling it?

>>376951072
Demons Souls was the the easiest by far.

>>376950258
HEY HEY HEY, REMEMBER DARK SOULS 1?
LOOK AN ESTUS, BUT LOOK AT THE CORPSE
ITS AN ASTORA KNIGHT, LIKE THAT PART IN ASYLUM FROM OSCAR, DO YOU REMEMBER? DO YOU REMEMBER

HEY LOOK, LOOK, ITS FIRELINK, YOU KNOW, THAT PLACE IN DARK SOULS 1? DO YOU REMEMBER?? LOOK IN THAT CORNER, DO YOU SEE WHO I SEE?? ITS ANDRE!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU REMEMBER HIM FROM DARK SOULS 1? Don't pay too much attention to the dark souls 2 shrine maiden, we just put here there for cause lol..

BUT HEY LOOK, A CRESTFALLEN WARRIOR SOBBING NEAR THE BONFIRE, WHOAA!!!!

HEEEEEY, REMEMBER HOW YOU GOT TO ANOR LONDO WITH THE DEMONS, WELL WE LOOK RIGHT OVER HERE JUST LIFT THE BANNER!!! DO YOU REMEMBER DARK SOULS 1 YET??

HEY REMEMBER THE 4 GREAT LORDS FROM DARK SOULS 1, YEAH FUCKING ACES BRO.

HEY REMEMBER SIF, THE DOG FROM DARK SOULS 1?
hEY REMEMBER ARTORIAS, HES FROM DARK SOULS 1

AWWW SHIT YOU NEED A DOLL, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT PART FROM DARK SOULS 1

WHOA CHECK IT, DEMON RUINS!! DO YOU REMEMBER THE DEMONS FROM DARK SOULS 1??

AWWW SHIT BIG HAT LOGAN, DO YOU REMEMBER HIM? FROM DARK SOULS 1

rEMEMBER LONGFINGER KIRK??
REMEMBER ANOR LONDO
REMEMBER GWYNDOLIN?
REMEMBER DEMON SOULS?
rEMEMBER THE GRAND ARCHIVES?
REMEMBER GWYN, THE FINAL BOSS FROM DARK SOULS?? HERES HIS THEME
REMEMBER THE PAINTED WORLD
rEMEMBER ORNSTEIN AND SMOUGH
rEMEMBER FIRELINK AGAIN?
REMEMBER ANOR LONDO?
REMEMBER ARTORIAS AGAIN??

>>376953113
No difference. You are talking to a teenager that really enjoyed a reply they read once and now parrots

>>376953027
Because their attacks have massive wind-up and recovery time. Which is why they can only punish your estus drinking, your blocking if applicable or evade your attacks if they are standing by.

>>376953205
do you have some kind of brain damage?

>>376953205
This is a person who still hasn't masturbated today

>>376953149
I still shit myself when facing those giant asshole ogres in the swamp of demon's souls though.

>>376953205
Have a Snickers.

>>376953205
Man, you must have really hated star wars

>>376953026
DS2 sort of did this with Smelter, he gets significant boost to his defence during transition to second phase.

>>376953205
You're right, how fucking DARE a sequel not be a completely different game.
Even Final Fantasy re-using spell names is just too much nostalgia faggotry.

>>376953412
AHH SHIT THIS GAME USED THE SAME SPELLS

ITS TOTALLY THE SAME AS HAVING NO ORIGINALLITY AND SHAMELESSLY HIDING BEHIND ANOTHER GAME

FF8 IS TOTALLY THE SAME AS FF7

I REMEMBER THE PART WHERE SEIFER FALLS TO THE FLOOR AND SUDDENLY IS POSSESSED BY SEPHIROTH AND ONED WINGED ANGEL PLAYS

>>376952330
It will have to be a literal shitpile with even less replayability or combat depth, since they can't fuck up exploration and level weaving more.

>amount of rings cut in half
>remove equip load
>weapons drain durability twice as fast as DaS2, 'to encourage people to switch weapons'
>weapons can't be reinforced
>keep ultra heavy armor sets and poise in the game, even though there's no weight
>ADP comes back
>weapons all use the same amount of stamina regardless of size
>rolling no longer drains stamina at all
>missing a shield parry still blocks the attack
>spell casting time can't be changed (already the case in DaS3 without a ring)

Only 10 weapons and they all perform the same.

Then cap it all off with extremely short and linear levels with 90% ending in dead-end warps, putting DaS3 to shame.

>>376953412
>but if we don't copy-paste everything, how will they know it's a sequel?????

Get out of here, George.

>>376953557
To be fair its that dude's fault for using FF as an example of a sequel when the games are never set in the same universe even once.

There are many games in which the sequels will reference its prequels constantly, many more than I can count, and yet the dumbass decided to use Final Fantasy.

>>376951407
I think I'm the only one who liked it more then 1. I wouldn't listen to people here, I'd just play it.

>>376953384
star wars keeps a story going, its in the same universe
a force awakens isn't a 1:1 copy of a new hope
rogue one is a bad sequel because it constantly reminding you it's star wars every minute.

>>376953874
Don't be silly, of course you're not the only one, but the DS1 babies are the most vocal bunch by a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong shot.

>>376951407
Meh. In my opinion the weakest souls.
The only good part of DS3 was the boss fights, really enjoyed Gael. But it's not enough to make it the best in the series.

It has the best boss fights out of all the games, but linearity, lack of originality and mediocre weapon and build variety are huge turn offs.

I love it, but I prefer any of the 4 games before it over it.

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>>376953205
So this sequel game features the same setting and characters as previous games, continuing their stories?

Hmm....

>>376954007
IT BROKE NEW GROUND

>>376954271
I wonder what the kid in this image is doing now.
Hope he's doing alright.

>>376951407
My favorite souls game, including demons. About equally as good as bloodborne imo

>>376954345
he became a successful actor

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0384211/

I'm fighting Gael right now and jesus I hate this faggot. Why does this fuckhead have so much god damn health just on NG? The fight is so tiresome I keep losing concentration or I get impatient at how long its taking and try to get another hit in only to be punished. Fuck. Like 3 times I've almost killed him and then get wombo comboed and die. Fuck that random lightning shit too. As if I didn't already have my hands full with having to read Gael and his ridiculous range or lingering flame damage.

>>376954345
Probably turning on your sisters mothers and crushes

>>376954271
Yes, even though it takes place tens of thousands of years after those characters should have been dead and has nothing interesting to say about any of them.

>>376954152
Gael ended up being a disappointment to me. He's just flashy but not as aggressive at he might look like at first glance. That thrust into upslash is so predictable and long.

Midir on the other hand was great. Excellent design, the moves look so damn good. He's a rage machine and intimidating as fuck and the HP bar make so he does not die in 3 seconds like the Abyss Watcher.

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>DS1
>Good base game
>Good DLC

>DS2
>Shit base game
>Good DLC
>Rework makes the base game okay

>DS3
>Good base game
>Shit DLC

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>>376954524
>DS2
>Rework makes the base game okay

I fucking wish but not even close

>>376954519
I liked Midir, but really wish he had more attacks. He has such a small moveset.

>>376954524
sotfs made the base game worse...

>ogres pasted everywhere
>mobs multiplied
>petrified statues everywhere
>have to find the keys for the dlc

>>376954524
>DS3
>Shit DLC
wat

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>>376951870
>Go to fight that trio of assholes right outside the archives
>The dude with the staff pulls out a fucking parrying dagger, gets the parry, and follows up with crystal soul spear

>>376955173
dlc was shit

>>376954957
SotFS is much, much better than the original.
>complete enemy placement change for the better, most places have fewer enemies, as less reliance on just swarming you
>Better flow to the entire game
>Better lighting
>More NPC invasions
>Extra boss fight/story
>Included DLC (if you didn't have it already)

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>>376954421
It's annoying as fuck, same with Midir.

You can get a reliable amount of damage done by poisoning him though. Also you need to keep your distance in part 3, but not too far away or he'll do that stupid teleport bullshit

>>376955173
>HEY REMEMBER PAINTED WORLD?
>HEY REMEMBER HORSEFUCK VALLEY?
>HEY REMEMBER THE GREAT HOLLOW?
>HEY REMEMBER LADY MARIA?
>HEY REMEMBER LADY MARIA?
>HEY REMEMBER LADY MARIA?
>A fine Dark Souls to you! Hahaha! But alas, not so fast! The fire fades, and now, prepare to die, without really knowing why...

>>376955343
AoA was the weakest DLC in the series, but TRC was the best for me, barring bloodborne which I haven't played.

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Now that I've been playing the 3 games on and off, I'm surprised to have the most fun in DS2. Feels like the most solid and replayable of the 3 in the long run. They fucked up with the rework though.

A fine Dark Souls™ III: The Ringed City™: The Fire Fades™ Edition - Developed by FromSoftware™, Published by Bandai Namco™ - Available now on Playstation™ 4, Xbox One™, and PC to you!

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Demon's souls is fucking hard, and i'm not talking about the bosses, but about the enemy placement and how much you get ganked by them, its like being a 11 year old swedish girl walking through a muslim ghetto.

I'm fucking shaking everytime i see a group of dogs in demon's souls.
Mostly because i'm outright casual and love to use greatswords.

>>376955718
What'd the rework do wrong? I was considering picking it up.

>>376954524
Why is Dark Souls 2 the only damn game with base game changes?

stop being butthurt jacob

Say what you want about Dark Souls 2. At least they tried to do their own thing and kept the pandering to a minimum. Most of the bosses aren't blatant rehashes, if a bit samey. It has problems though.

>>376955809
It feels a bit cheap in some areas, with just more mobs. But the game is prettier, and you might like it, it just feels underwhelming to me. Still having a blast though.

>>376955874
Because it's the only one with a second version? I don't get it, are you asking why Demon's hasn't been remastered or are you just retarded?

>>376955874
>shit base game
That might have something to do with it.

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>>376950258
dude I beat every boss at sl 20 git gud

>>376954869
Granted, with all the defense and health he has, I think he is fine.

But then again, couldnt you say the same thing about all the other dragons in the souls game? Or do you mean more "dynamic"(or whatever) types of attacks?

>>376952925
fuck this cunt

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>>376953205
are you okay son?

>>376956024
>I have to be retarded to ask questions

Fuck, guess I better go kill myself.

When is the GOTY version going to come out?

>>376956069
It's not the greatest but there's very little warping so it flows extremely well.

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>>376956090
>SL 20
Nice.

Where the fuck do you buy lightning bolts?

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>>376955749
>That entire area before the penetrator.

>>376956112
He's the best dragon boss the series has to offer, i'll give you that much. He's ancient dragon done right. Just a big push over because of his pool of 5-6 attacks. Yeah I want something a bit more dynamic to keep me engaged

>>376956573
greirat has to go to lothric and die

Was it just me, or are iframes really abusable in this one? Like you can roll directly into the path of an enemies weapon but it will never touch you as long as you are mid roll. It seems it's more about timing and reactions more than actually figuring out how to avoid attacks, and positioning yourself accordingly.

>>376956573
I must have been testing ar differences between a knight crossbow with lighting bolts vs a heavy crossbow with heavy bolts against random pvpers.

>>376956653
go fuck yourself

>>376956784
>>376956573
misread that my bad

I think greirat gets them after his second pillage.

>wait for an opening
>attack
>back up
>wait for stamina to regen
>goto 10

Boring af combat. Anyone who says souls games have good combat has never played a good action game.

>>376955674
what did you like about TRC? Seemed like nothing of much was there for me. I was done with the dlc as fast as i bought it.

Just finished DS2 for the first time. Maybe I'm retarded, but I feel like I had zero direction the entire game. I almost never knew where I was trying to go, more often than not just stumbled into bosses, and only found the final battle when I decided to re-explore an earlier area and took a left from the bonfire instead of a right.
Moving on to DS3 now.

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>>376956743
Shit, no wonder I've never got them.
Been meaning to get those and the exploding bolts to use with the Gael's repeating crossbow on my low level character.

As much as I hate to make Greirat die, it will be worth it solely to fuck with gank squads in Izalith

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>There are contrarian faggots who still insist that Sinh is a better dragon fight than Midir

>>376956813
?

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>>376950258
>DUUUUUUUUDE JOJO REFERENCES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9N1e_-PtCE

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>>376957074
Both suck, but Midir is better simply for the fact he can't poison you and spends more time on the ground (even if he's constantly running away from you the entire fight).
>>376957163
Midir is the worst fight in the entire series, except for maybe the ancient dragon in dark souls 2 if you were stupid enough to attack him.

>>376956934
>missing the point

>>376956996
The witches at the beginning of the game pretty much tell you that you're going to go through this world and do things and have no idea why you're doing any of it.

So basically it's like real life.

>>376957241
Midir is an endurance battle done correctly, but is flawed due to his low attack variance.
Ancient Dragon is an endurance battle as well, but has an even smaller attack pool.

Why do you dislike Midir?

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>>376957241
>Midir is the worst fight in the series

>Not bed of chaos, false idol, shadow of yarnam, man eaters or the armored spider

>>376953323
Other than certain areas, Demon's Souls is the easiest to beat simply because every area can be beaten when you're a lowish level due to how non-linear it is. It's only on the 3rd or so level of an archstone than it starts getting hard enough to fuck over low level players.

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>>376953874
>I'm the only one who liked it more than 1
Hey, me too!

>>376953828
>To be fair
how to spot a beta

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>>376957449
You heard me.

>>376957449
what was wrong with shadow of yharnam?

>>376951407

Overall it was far better.

The base game was the most solid. The DLC just made it better overall.

I think the basic red eye invasions were the worst though but it's not like I give a fuck about invading people much anyway. It had decent covenants though. I don't think I ever used Dark Souls 2 or 1's covenants much. I actually fucked around with Dark Souls 3's quite a bit.

The DLC is just icing on an already superior cake to that of Dark Souls 1 and 2. That's just my opinion though. Feel free to call me a pleb with shit taste.

>>376953874
Nope, it's the best Souls game

Bloodborne is a tiny bit better due to The Old Hunters though

>>376957570
3 basic enemies, 1 unique attack (snake summon)

>>376957241
You are seriously mentally fucking retarded if you think Midir is anywhere near the worst boss in the series. Every single non-DLC boss in 2 is worse, Midir is by far the best non-humanoid fight in the series.

>>376957925
It's not a good fight just because it's difficult.

>>376957980
I never said it was but even if you dislike Midir you are OBJECTIVELY wrong if you try to say he is as bad as Bed of Chaos, Armored Spider, and all the shitty DaS 2 bosses like Rat Authority/Vanguard and the Congregation.

>>376957980
>because it's difficult.
>memorizing 5 moves in phase 1
>memorizing 2 additional attacks in phase 2
>hard

is this the new /v/ i keep hearing about?

>>376956996

I can't really bring myself to beat Dark Souls 2 again. I always hit a sort of brick wall after Ruin Sentinels. I just don't care after that point. Nashandra is also a really shitty final boss for all that you do. The core game is just so mediocre and everything surrounding gets boring to the point that I've only gone through one DLC path.

That one with poison and shit underground and the boss there is fucking annoying and not fun to battle at all.

>>376958297
>That one with poison and shit underground and the boss there is fucking annoying and not fun to battle at all.
you're telling me you don't like a boss that deteriorates your weapons midfight so you need to carry two on hand or play perfectly using an rtsr set up so you can kill him without weapons breaking??

DUDE
GIT GUD
LMAO

>>376957456
The boletarian castle is the only archstone that even has a third area. The third bosses of archstones 2-4 are all lore/gimmick fights too.

>>376958713
I mean 2-5, whoops.

>>376957169
>NANI!!!!!!

you got me, my sides are in orbit

>>376958695
Yea. Get good. People already beat this whole game on at least ng+7 at sl1. Git....GUD.

>>376953643
I got a weird feeling a lot of these are sick disgusting mods

>>376959117
i beat the game using a fleshlight

the fleshlight functions like a control stick
lifting it up and down lets me r1
flexing my kegel muscles lets me dodge
cumming lets me estus

>>376959290
>needing to cum
casual

>>376958640

Pretty much. I see so much praise for Dark Souls 2 DLC but if the others are as assblasting annoying as that one then I don't think I'll ever complete any of it.

There's hard and then there's rubbing salt into the wound hard.

>>376953149
You are drunk go to bed

>DUUUUUUUDE Bloodborne enemies in a Dark Souls game!

How to pyromancer

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>>376955982
>ds2 bosses aren't rehashes

are you fucking kidding me

>>376959696
>DS1
>get ascended pyro +5
>steam roll game with combustion

>DS2
>forced to get 40 int/40 fth because pvpers cried that pyro should require stats
>be shit
>end up being hexxer

>DS3
>required to have 40fth/40int
>required to have 4 rings dedicated to make pyro good
>only really good spell is chaos bed vestiges
>end up rerolling for melee since everything is designed as if it's bloodborne and everything is fast enough to close the distance, do a 20 hit combo, before you're able to get off your cast.

>>376959230
The more I read my post, the more interesting it sounds to play a Souls game where everything is broken to the point of working.

It just did not have the effect I wanted, at all.

>>376959745
2 bosses out of 56 are rehashes.
Old Dragonslayer and Bellfry.

>>376959593

I think they just realized mid-development that the fast paced combat of Bloodborne was way more fun but the slow shield shit from the others didn't work so eventually they just gave up and realized it didn't work.

Fast dex builds are far more fun and suit the game better especially for PVP.

They left the heavy builds for Dark Souls fans because they're entirely viable even with fast bosses but you gimp the fuck out of yourself in any PvP.

>>376959895
>>end up rerolling for melee since everything is designed as if it's bloodborne and everything is fast enough to close the distance, do a 20 hit combo, before you're able to get off your cast.

I really wish that they made the game in "Souls" mode and not in "Bloodborne" mode.

>>376958297
>>376958640
which boss is this? just finished beating all the DLC areas in scholar and I seriously don't remember equipment breakage.

>>376959995
Even with the highest stability shields in the game, it it still more stamina efficient to roll out of an attack than to block it.

Shields still have a place, they are meant to block projectiles so you cannot be pressured.

>>376959951
I suppose so. You could do them for different runs I guess if that's up your alley for an extra challenge or whatever like whole 1HP/1Stamina thing

>>376960114
Sinh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKnNYVUERcI

Watching this makes me miss Dark Souls 2, DS3 made whips ass.

>>376960114

Fuck if I remember. It's the poison one with underground pyramids. Great visuals and ideas but that whole area was annoying. I don't know necessarily remember equipment breakage but I was so annoyed that I just gave up. Neat concepts aside I just hated it.

It was the first DLC released for Dark Souls 2.

>>376960114
the dragon Sinh spits poison, and his HP pool is high enough that your weapon will break before you kill him, requiring you to bring two swords.

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>>376950258
the micro stutter and small fps drops in this game makes it unplayable on pc

>>376960347
>hits sinh twice with whip
>whip at 25% durability

this has to be PC gameplay

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>>376960446
>that butthole

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>>376951407
Best bosses
Okay areas (some great ones)
linear as fuck
worth a play
4rth best souls borne

>>376952389
yeah while your health drops like a rock


trading hits can beat the game, but not EVERY hit, and its one of the least viable ways to play the game. its almost useless on ng+.

>>376958297
I can relate anon, The first souls game I ever played was Dark souls 1, and I fell in love with the universe, but a few months passed and I decided to go study overseas and stopped playing video games, i got a xbox one in 2014 and saw that dark souls 2:Sotls was out for xbox one so I decided to buy it, and i mean... Holy shit, I get its subjective, some people don't mind a boss from dark souls 1 being used with a different texture in the ds2, or that you have to fight the same bosses in the same playthrough. One thing that I loved about dark souls 1 was how well connected and organized the world was, and dark souls 2 just took a dumb on that design.
I guess it was just poorly directed and executed. But once again, its subjective and some people think that DS2 had the best PVE out of all the games.

Also, i wouldnt say i'm great at dark souls(especially not pvp), but the first time i defeated gwyn felt fucking good compared to dark souls 2, i remember going into the boss with two phantoms and the boss was just doing some curse spells that had no effect what-so-ever, it was utterly anti-climatic.
Sorry for my autistic rambling.

>>376959978
>2 bosses out of 56 are rehashes
Really?
>Toxic Sif Authority
>Demon Witch Nakja
>Generic Enemy and Congregation
>Last Giant 2: Electric Giant Lord
>lmao 2 dragonrider
>lmao 2 king's pet
>Blue Smelter

>>376960743
the cloth is juuuust out of the way to slip right in and pound

>>376960870
Damn son, every boss is a rehash according to your logic.

Last Giant is a giant, therefore he's a rehash of Iron Golem
Pursuer has armor and a sword, he's literally a rehash of Artorias
Royal Rat Authority has 4 legs and is a big animal, totally rip of sif
Some scorpion lady, literally quelaag
ruin sentinels is 3 guys, totes ripping o&s

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>>376960845
>2 just took a dumb on that design.
>dumb
Looks like the only one dumb here is you.

>>376961005
or you're retarded. Sif and kellogs are both ripped off in ds2

>>376961005
>he took the b8

>>376960454
it's probably pre-patch SOTFS on PS4.

Weapon durability was already really bad in regular DS2, but as it turns out, the geniuses at fromsoft tied weapon durability degradation to animation frames.

Basically, durability degrades on a tick per frame based on something like whether your weapon is passing through an object as you are in an attack animation.

Since the PS4 version of sotfs played at a higher framerate, it amplified an already huge problem.

You could start the game and run to forest of fallen giants, and your sword would be broken by the time you killed the first ogre

>>376960870
I'll give you Najka. Blue Smelter and the two dragonriders are self-rehashes, which sucks but isn't pandering by any stretch of the imagination since no one liked the originals in the first place.

>>376961005
You finally get it.
Let's recap

Bearer of the Curse is a rip off of chosen undead.
Emerald herald is a rip off of Maiden in Black
Bonfires are a rip off from lanterns.
Last Giant is a rip off of Yhorm
Giant Lord is a rip off of Yhorm as well.
Dragonrider is a rip off of Kamen Rider (even took the second half of his name)
Crestfallen Warrior is a rip off of Frampt

>>376951407
>PVE
1 > 2 > 3
3 loses to 2 purely because the map is brutally linear. The opening combo of Lothric Castle - Undead Settlement - Cathedral of the Deep is amazing and then it just shits the bed. Just get turned off by the 80 million swamps, dull brown/grey pallet and having to do everything in the same basic order.

Very low replay value, no NG+ additional content and they removed the Champion Covenant despite literally having a nigger named "The Champion" with his boss arena at the start of the game.

>Boss fights
3 > 1 > 2
3 is all over the fucking place with boss quality but manages to get carried by the good shit.

>PVP
lmao. I guess 2 wins because they didn't fucking sell arenas? But then also SM.
I dunno the devs clearly don't care about PVP and neither should you. I play offline because the messages trigger the shit out of me when they spoil a trap/ambush or ruin a screenshot.

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>>376961484

dude spam roll lmao

>>376961484
Boss quality is really all Dark Souls 3 has.

>>376961484
pvp/online is a very very very minor part of dark souls

i just wish the devs would stop nerfing pve in favor of pvp

>>376961005
Giant Lord is exactly the same as phase 2 Last Giant.
Artorias doesn't have a shield during his boss fight.
Royal Rat Authority moves the same as Sif. They just took out the sword and all sword attacks without adding anything other than toxic minions.
Nakja reuses several of Quelaags attacks and animations to the extent that you can beat her with the same positioning and dodge timing. Based on her size and body shape, it's likely they reused Quelaag's rigging.
The fact that Ruins Sentinels is a lazy copy paste actually distances it from O&S. Throne Watch and Defender are a more obvious O&S comparison.

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>>376961232
>vanilla DS2
>fight ruin sentinels
>have to use F O U R repair powders during the fight in order to kill them with my club

>>376961775
you say it's minor but it's half of the series' popularity

>>376961775
>i just wish the devs would stop nerfing pve in favor of pvp
that's what they literally did for 3 though.
The insta estus and fast rolls were a shit addition to pvp, but made the pve much better since it allowed them to make enemies faster and more aggressive.

>>376953205
Pretty much. DS3 is a rehash. 2 is flawed and lacked coherency, but at least it did new things. DS3 has no identity of its own.

>>376962134
>half
nice source

>>376962163
Haha, no.
FUGS nerfed to uselessness
Great Shields nerfed
Estoc nerfed to uselessness
Luck/Bleed nerfed to uselessness
Carthus bloodring nerfed to uselessness

>>376953205
>Sequel makes callbacks to the original
JEEEESUS WHAT SHILLLS

>>376961119
>scorpion is a kellog ripoff
come on now anon

>>376961573
I dunno man I didn't think I went anywhere too controversial.

You could put 3 over 2 in PVE if you never use magic/power stance/left handed movesets or hated the hitbox issues, I just can't describe how much that linear map design kills it for me. The back 2 back bonfire thing is also an issue that got even worse in 3, I'm pretty sure there was supposed to be a mechanic where they let you make SOME boss arenas into bonfire locations that got dropped.
Also I just like going to ancient castles and the ocean. Aesthetic-wise in 3 there's a little too much Bloodborne in my Dark Souls.

I'm sure Eldritch eating Gwyndolin is symbolic of something.

>>376962337
>game has to constantly remind you it's a sequel so people know it's a sequel
what a sad world we live in

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>>376955982
I agree, for the most part, but
>and kept the pandering to a minimum
It was pretty eye-rollingly lazy

>>376962240
lmaoing at ur life XD

I just got Dark Souls 3. It's going to be my first Souls game. What class and weapon should I go with?

>>376962249
As expected of a sequel-playing shit eating retard you fundamentally misunderstood what he was saying. The instant estus and endlessly chainable rolls makes pvp the opposite of fun and no weapon nerfs or buffs or anything else will change that when the game is based on chugging estus, spamming roll and spamming r1. You don't even need to think about what you're doing in ds3 it's the spammiest and reactiest of the series

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>>376956090
>Hollowing: 40

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Pretty much. 2 is a rehash. 3 at least it did new things. 2 has no identity of its own.

DS1>BB>DS3>DES>>>>>SHIT2

>>376962841
You should get DS1 and make that your first.
If not, knight with firegem is probably the most brain dead for new players.

One of the best armors, best weapons, and a decent shield with an elemental strength against most of the early game enemies.

>>376962850
That doesn't change the fact they still nerf shit for PvP which effects PvE, retard.

>>376962873
I always go hollow so I can skill my way to the untended graves at low level with dark hand

>>376963027
>3 at least it did new things
hahahah
hahaha
hhaaahaha

>>376953205

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>>376963143
There's nothing wrong with going hollow, but not killing Yuria and cleansing that shit ASAP is 100% heretical. Have some self-respect, Anon.

>>376950258
>DUDE OVERRATED SHIT GAMES FROM MEDIOCRE DEVS JUST BECAUSE MUH EPIC HARDCORE DIFFICULTY LMAO XD

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>>376962841
>starting with the 3rd numbered sequel in a series that has 3 games that would all make great starting points
honestly fuck you

>>376953205
Feel sorry for you.

>>376951407
It's pretty fucking good if you're not already sick and tired of these games. God damn I'm happy that it's finally over.

>>376962841
Make DS3 your first so the experience isn't ruined because of the constant call backs and nostalgia baiting. You'll love it so much more.

>>376963028
I don't want to buy another Console to play the first or Demon's Souls. Care to to spoonfeed me the name of those weapons and armor?

>>376963274
>paying souls for something a helmet can do for free
You will never know I'm hollow

>>376954007
You're a retard and Dark Souls 3 is the The Force Awakens of video games.

>>376954007
>a force awakens isn't a 1:1 copy of a new hope
Ahahahaha.

>>376963312
I'm not buying another console for 2 games man.

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>>376963508
No, no I won't know. But you know who WILL know you're hollow? (You)

>>376953205

Damn, nigga. Calm down. Yeah, it was nostalgia heavy but this is the end of the franchise. Bookending it seems appropriate.

>>376963498
Knight is the name of the starting class.
It starts with that shit. The only downside to longsword R1 is boredom.

>>376963593
With DSfix, the PC version of Dark Souls 1 is by far the best version you retard

>>376963593
If you got a PS3 instead of that crap you could have played Demon's and everything else but BB. Which is rather overrated tbqhwy senpai

>>376955730
I can't believe he actually said this in the final boss of the series

>>376963627
A hollow needn't go mad

>DUUUUUDE LETS RELEASE ANOTHER SOULS GAME EVEN THOUGH IT DIED WITH DARK SOULS 2

>>376963737
BB is the best one, followed closely by DaS 1.

>>376963669
Why does every PC fag think that everyone is a friendless basement dwelling loser like themselves? I don't game on my PC, that shit is for working.

>>376963656
Thanks anon, I'll probably go with your suggestion. Seeing as you're the only person in any souls thread that's ever actually been helpful.

>>376963737
I'll probably get Bloodborne later if I enjoy DaS3.

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>>376963027
DaS2 was a fucking mistake. I genuinely do not understand how people can fucking think its a good game, souls or not.

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>>376963935
Well then be a faggot and start a series with the 3rd fucking game like a retard because "muh PC is for working". What kind of ass hat ONLY has a current gen console and nothing else?

>>376964102
My PS4 and 3DS are enough for now. I sold my 360 because I never played anymore. I'll probably get a Switch this holiday season if it gets more games.

>>376963737
Man after my own heart. Everybody fucking rides that tiny BB dick all day here, but I don't get why after playing through it twice.
Maybe because it's exclusive and therefore it has to be better than every other game in the series to justify spending all that money for a bloodborne machine?

>>376963042
>>376962249
These nerfs are pretty much meaningless in pve, since min-maxing in pve is for faggots, and slight dmg change does not do a lot if you don't suck.

>>376964091
Self induced stockholm syndrome. Even today people swear it's a fine game and its only problem is being part of this franchise.

Does using Havel's shield in pve mean you failed?

>>376964091
Shadows in DaS1 were based on your camera angle, shadows don't work that way either bub.

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>>376964091
enemy tracking
some awful level design
world design is pretty bad
life gems
soul memory
shit animations
90℅ of enemies and bosses are uninspired garbage
looks like absolute shit

>>376953205
I took an online autism test and scored 25/50, Average Risk

>>376964870
I don't think any of those online tests are very accurate. I've done like 3 and every single one says I'm a narcissistic sociopath, which is bullshit.

Abyss watcher aggro'd on me and is too busy slow walking to attack me. Just follows me around in slow walk for two minutes. So I say fuck it and run back to heal and the second I estus he flies across the room and pancakes me nullifying the heal. In the same fight the exact same situation occurs so I run just out of distance so that I can hit him with a fully charged R2 when he gets into range. But as soon as I press R2 he again flies across the room and bitch smacks me.

>>376965246
There may be something strange with the way the game handles the enemy rendering. There's dogs early on in DS3 that look like they teleport around depending on the camera placement.

>>376965246
brebare 2 die lmao!!! :DDD

>>376964091
Dark Souls 2 sold more than Bloodborne.

>Dark Souls 2>>Nioh>DeS>>DaS>BB>DaS3

>>376964539
i actually like life gems more than humanity,
never had an issue with enemy tracking(enemy attacks are obvious and easy to dodge),
graphically is shit i agree,
i prefer ds2 animations and i think ds should be slow since it was build around patience and preparation
i like enemy designs in ds2
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's all just an opion tho

>>376965634
if you're going off of sales, nioh doesnt even make the cut

>>376965692
opinion^ kinda tired

>>376965634
Dark Souls 2 had EIGHT different releases across FIVE platforms. No shit it sold more.

>>376950258
Hey, how come players never get a second phase? That's discrimination.

>>376966003
It's called tears of denial.

>>376966056
yeah but i don't get super powered up and the theme of the last game's protagonist doesn't start playing

>>376966056
No fuck you. I don't like myself on fire when my health gets too low.

>>376950258
Im about to kill lothric and already beaten the oceiros kind and nameless king

about to finish the game and then the dlc

I'm going to bring the age of darkness

game is amazing, better than ds1 and about on par with BB, maybe slightly less awe inspiring than bloodborne but its up there

>>376964539
>enemy tracking
no different than any other souls game, ds1 enemies could flip 180 degrees and impale you
>some awful level design
yeah
>world design is pretty bad
if you mean making sense, then yes, but outside that it was actually pretty open and you had a lot of options, you could pick 1 of 7 bosses to be your first boss, which is more than any other game
>life gems
it was fine, it balanced out the slow estus
>soul memory
only effected online, so wasnt that big of a deal
>shit animations
it was different, they mocapped it all. some animations where bad, some where alright. I liked the weapon animations more than das1/3 where your wrist could snap and you break your hand when you swing ugs
>90℅ of enemies and bosses are uninspired garbage
just because the they're all in armor and have weapons in a medieval fantasy game doesnt mean its uninspired
>looks like absolute shit
yeah it looks like trash

>>376965595
>that look like they teleport around
Actually, they do teleport. Try running past the ones in CotD, they literally respawn in the air next you when you run away.

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>>376964539
>world design
In DaS3 it informs something again about the metaphysics of the world, how all the areas are clearly jumbled together in nonsense ways. This is something you can see intentionally from the vantage point after Lothric Castle, and the geography doesn't change during the course of the the events so it still makes exploring to get to all the areas you saw at the beginning more fun.

In DaS2 shit is just thrown all over the place. Every time you get somewhere new it doesn't feel like finally reaching your intentional destination like in DaS1/3 or a traveling across the continent like in DeS, it's just shit thrown together nonsensically. I never thought "cool!" or "finally!" upon entering a new area, just "huh? How did I get to this castle that I just saw floating out in the middle of the bay a mile away?"

>>376966729
>just because the they're all in armor and have weapons in a medieval fantasy game doesnt mean its uninspired
Right. It's the boring, shallow, extremely player-like movesets that kill them.

>>376952129
This. I was pvp-ing against some guy who liked to show off his deep knowledge of the combat by combining combos and weapon arts. All I did was roll into him and spam R1 four times to kill him lol

>>376967430
>bosses that are on par with the player is bad
sorry it couldn't be super hyper fast bosses designed by deviant art that could probably destroy the world if they wanted to but dont for some reason

>>376964539
>soul memory meme
oh fuck off with this again, ds2 actually had the most functional online play out of the whole series even with stupid soul memory restriction.

I don't get the roll spam. I get punished by everything much more when I spam then trying to time my shit.

>>376951072
While DS3 was easy, Bloodborne was far easier.

>>376967719
Apology accepted. Now keep taking notes from Miyazaki's games, Tanimura.

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>>376968615
am i doing it right miyazaki

this guy has 10 phases

>>376969045
Depends. Is he able to react to circlestraffing without pendant up-to-last-frame-of-windup tracking? Can he react to sippies? Does he pressure the player? Are his attacks more varied than vertical slash forward? Do his attacks have different timings? Does he have a gimmick?

>>376969289
he attacks by reading inputs, if you dodge he instantly roll catches and gets you in a 20 hit combo

if you sip he gets you in a 20 hit combo

his attacks are 1frame

he spins like a top when he attacks

every attack has the same startup animation and changes it's attack timing depending on the players inputs

his gimmick is he multiplies for every summoned phantom and each phase just plays a remix of a boss from the previous game but with a piano to make it sad

>>376966729
>>376967719
>>376967430

DS2 bosses aren't bad because they're all knights, they tend to be bad because they're very low energy and not exciting to fight. Worst of these being most of the Big Guys(Old Iron King, Lost Sinner and Rotten.) Wet fart big bosses combined with the sheer number of times you just fight a vanilla mob presented as a boss lowers the overall game a lot and things don't pick up until the DLC. Dragonslayer Armor, Rat Mob, Skeleton Mob, Congregation, Covetous Demon, Scorpion Lady, Medusa Lady, Flexile Sentry, Ruin Sents, Gargoyles, Guardian Dragon. Throw in a few other let downs like Nashandra and Aldia and you're left with... what?

Pursuer, Mirror Knight, Freja, Rat Authority(maybe, at least he's challenging), Chariot(hey, an actual environment/mook fight that's tense and interesting!), Velstadt, Vendrick, Song Demon. And half of these are arguably not that great either but at least they're memorable or provide real fights. The DLC adds a lot more strong fights despite many of them being Big Knights.

>>376969492
>he attacks by reading inputs
>every attack has the same startup animation
Clearly you learned nothing. Start over.

>>376969814
but that's exactly what you did with ds3 miyazakiiii

>>376953205
Is this a dark souls reference?

FUCK YOU BRYCE

FUCK YOU TOO BLOOMING YOU FUCKING BULLIES

>>376970520
>>376970830
what the fuck did anon mean by this

>>376970520
>>376970830
Shelled calm down senpai.

>>376971192
Classified Kids Next Door business filthy adult

>>376951407

Has the most fluid combat and best bosses. Stripped down RPG mechanics though. Overall better than two but probably not quite as good as 1, simply because it's another game with teleportation from the start.

>>376971192
>>376971530
Wasnt me

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>>376971530

Shitposting explosives are set, Numbuh 1! Get ready to evacuate!

>>376971983
Numbah 5 stop posting in the thread

What's wrong with enemies reading input ? Any good player does it.

>>376972146
*Numbah 4
Ftfy Numbah 1

>>376950258
Git gud

But there are worse issues in 3 not discused in the thread namely its horrid pvp and shity meta. Literally just get a greatshield and longsword and just r1 spam people to death. It can barely be countered due to the game's awful netcode which feels worse than 2 for some reason and if you do get hit somehow just estus since it cant be punished. Even the pve is bad. its just shitty rehashed fanfiction tier nonsense. At least in 2 you could do wacky shit but thats rare as hell to do in 3 which makes the terrible pvp even more boring

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>>376969045
>shitty images
Wow looks like the vast majority of DS2 bosses

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>>376972128
>>376972146
>>376972285

Numbuh 1.....WHERE IS NUMBUH 2 WITH THE EVACUATION?!

>>376961484
>DUDE JUST STACK POISE AND WALK BEHIND EVERY ENEMY LMAO
DS3 has by far the best combat in any of the Souls game.
Humanity ruins any sense of danger in the first game, and DS2 completely shat on pve with lifegems + infinitely repairable noob ring combo.

>>376952590
>he can't fight the boss on his own

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How many of you guys actually use the duel arenas in DS3?

I pvp'd there for a long while and did summons on Sullvayn's porch for pvp before that and all it ever did was make me angry. Players with straight swords still seem to outrange me when I use a greatsword and the phantom hitboxes on player weapons never seem to apply when I'm using them. It also made me realize that weapons in the game really aren't balanced for dueling at all and the "meta" changes every patch.

Invading is still okay though.

>>376973158
Get out of here, Chris-chan

>>376973320
All I do is PVP, so I use arenas all the time

>>376951407
It's okay.

>>376957449
>Prowling Magus and the Congregation

>>376972878
He's playing Video Games, along with the rest of the crew.

I'm afraid this is it Numbah 5. We are going to die in a board filled with manchildren who rather argue about video games and post traps instead of playing the video games.

What's even worse is that there's still no KND Multiplayer game.

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>>376973158

FORGET THE EVACUATION, I AM OUT

>>376973518
show feet/socks

>>376950258
Dark Souls 3 was alright, wish I could play it again for the first time.

Please, /v/, for fucking once in your life, give me one reason why I should enjoy dark souls 1 more than 2 or 3. I don't have an autistic fit when they mention a character or armor set from a previous game, I don't care that it's easier to roll as a means of dodging, and just because the bosses in 2 are mediocre doesn't mean the capra demon's dogs or the bed of chaos are excusable. Tell me, what the fuck is so absolutely, undeniably horrible about 2 and 3 that makes you call them shit compared to DS1?

>>376959534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UQtBMKCipk

no u

>>376973518
>anal plug
>but no dick
i m disappointed

>>376953874
Actually, for me it's.

Dark Souls > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2 (for pvp alone) > Demon's Souls

I havent played BB yet as I dont have a PS4. Is it truth about the framerate issues?

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>>376973690

I guess this really is the end of the line, Numbuh 1...the detonators will go off any second now.

> tfw Co-Op KND never ever

>>376974281
The framerate is about what you'd expect from a Souls game on a console, so take from that what you will. It's still very much playable but if you can't take 30fps that will sometimes dip below that then avoid it.

>>376974287
how old is this show even i think i remember seeing it just before i stopped watching cartoons and began being a weeb since i got used to internet. but it's probably just my country since i live in a shithole

>>376975117

December 2002, ended on January 21 2008

> tfw KND will be 15 years old this year

>>376974740
Hm.. I will need to try it. I played all Souls games on PC at 60fps, last time I played Demons Souls was so long ago I dont remember how good or bad was the framerate.

midir kinda sucked

>>376953205
man you really brought out the damage control

agree 100%, feels like a greatest hits game without an identity of its own

>>376950258

I heard this game is on sale on steam and I might get it. So is this game pretty cash?

>>376953205
3's the best in the series though. Lmao stay salty.

>>376951270
4chan memes on 4chan? Really makes you think.

>>376951407
Better than 2, worse than 1.

>>376963027
>last comparison has DaS2 on top and DaS on bottom when every previous one was the opposite

this triggered me hard

Best bosses per game.
DeS: False King
DaS: Tie between Gwyn/O & S
DaS 2: Fume Knight, base game bosses are ass.
BB: Lady Maria
DaS 3: The Champ, Nameless and Gael.

>>376976916
>lady maria

boy

>>376976916
Lady Maria is kind of cool, but she's super easy. Orphan of Kos is a much, much better fight

>>376976916
>Best bosses
>subjective

BB

Gehrman, The First Hunter
Ludwig, the Holy Blade
Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower
Laurence, the First Vicar (Amazing soundtrack)
Father Gascoigne
Vicar Amelia
Orphan of Kos
Yharnam, Pthumerian Queen
Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos
Mergo's Wet Nurse
Watch Dog of the Old Lords
Rom, the Vacuous Spider
Darkbeast Paarl
Moon Presence

DS3

Slave Knight Gael
Abyss Watchers
Soul of Cinder
Lothric, Younger Prince
Gundyr
Sister Friede
Nameless King
Dragonslayer Armour
Darkeater Midir
Pontiff Sulyvahn
Demon Prince
Dancer of the Boreal Valley
Yhorm the Giant

DS1

Chaos Witch Quelaag
Crossbreed Priscilla
Dark Sun Gwyndolin
Gaping Dragon
Great Grey Wolf Sif
Gwyn Lord of Cinder
Ornstein and Smough
Artorias the Abysswalker
Black Dragon Kalameet
Manus, Father of the Abyss

DES

King Allant
Penetrator
Old King Allant
Storm King
Tower Knight
Old Monk
Flamelurker
Fool's Idol
Phalanx
Maiden Astraea

DS2

Sir Alonne

>>376977496
spam/10 tldr

>>376977496
>Chaos Witch Quelaag
>Gaping Dragon
Uhhhh...

>>376958297
Hm, never had a problem playing through 2 all the way. Meanwhile every run after the first one on 3 I burn out and quit after pontiff

>>376967160
So DaS3's world design is good just because it proudly shows you how garbage it is? That's complete nonsense.

>>376972645
Never noticed the horn differences. It's not really a recolor then.

>>376951786
bait

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Obviously, DS4 will be the B-team a copy/paste of the DS3 and BB

>>376979768
>DS4
nah its time for BB2, need to switch from time to time or people will catch up on the formula

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>>376979768
>>376979979
>DS4
>BB2

Both are gone friendos. Welcome to the age of anime soulsbourne games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URLdBq3_cHM

>>376980418
I'd wager even LOTF2 will sell better. Who even funds the God Eater people anyway, their games are garbage.

>>376980418
thats not from tho
>>376980627
k

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>>376980418
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>>376981189
>meme covenant
they had to put it and it seems like it was last second decision
>last giant
i don't see it. Giants in ds2 are a totally different race.
>rat
sure
>dragon bridge
it wasn't there until Sotfs came out with miyazaki's 'fixes'
>archers with giant bows
well you want to have one to use right ? why not put them on enemies while we are at it.
>???
>bird blacksmith
ye but it's a fking blacksmith in ds1 players only thought about them as stupid birdbrains.
>some random statue
rly ?

thanks for giving me a reason to shitpost

>>376981254
>change their form
Swear to god if this weeby shit gives me the ability to turn into some super-monster and punch other monsters in the face, I'll buy it day-1

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>>376981928
first two are forced i m not even gonna bother
>blighttown
you forgot that its in demon's souls too
>throne duo
hmm i never noticed but i kinda get it
>lost sinner
ye its a reincarnation like most of the bosses are you even get the old witch soul in ng+ but the whole fight is different.
>crestfallen , havel and solaire
it's a meme ds3 has those too.

feed me more

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>>376973030
>implying humanity and lifegem ruins the sense of danger more than a bonfire every 30 feet
>implying you're forced to use this shit or even touch bonfires
This argument is retarded and Matthewmatosis is retarded for using it and I'll explain why.
Souls games are inherently only as difficult as you allow them to be.

What level did you beat DS3 NG? 60? Why not 120, or 150? Nothing stopped you from levelling.
Did you summon several phantoms to clear the game? No? But the devs intended the mechanic so much there's NPC summons.
Did you spec into healing miracles or regen so you could go take a shit then come back full hp?
Did you minmax every build with the most PVE damaging weapons possible?

Humanity or lifegems don't ruin the sense of danger, you ruined it by using them. There are six ways from Sunday to trivialize Souls games before you rely on farming for healing items. The game doesn't force shit on you, you made it easier because you wanted to.
I could load up DS3 right now, minmax a knight with his starting gear and beat the game with
>DUDE JUST ROLL AND PRESS R1 YOU'RE FUCKING INVINCIBLE LOL ENEMY CAN'T PUNISH SIPING LOL
This is why no death/no bonfire/no level runs exist, if you want the challenge it's there and if you want to be a pussy then be a pussy. Coincidentally DS3 doesn't reward ND/NB like 2 did, despite it being a brain dead way to increase replay value.
Play by rule of cool and don't give a shit what other people use to make it easy mode, or cry when you use it yourself lol.

>>376957059
if the rule you followed lead you to this, was what use of the rule?

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>>376956639
>the bridge before tower knight