Why amerifarts dont make hack & slash games?

God of War
Darksiders
Marlow Briggs
etc. etc.

It's one of the hardest genres to actually get right.

See: All the shitty DMC clones back when the franchise was hot shit.

They're terrible at it. That's why they focus on amazing stories and outstanding visuals and marketing.

white people like guns
asian people like swords
nothing more needs to be said

It's actually not hard to get right. It's just that Western developers don't know how to do it.

>make everything reactable
>if not reactable, make sure it can be avoided through option selects, or positioning

That's it. Everything else is just flavor.

nerd shit

They can't handle melee combat for some reason.

>>376926678
Devil May Cry and Bayonetta has both swords and guns.

There's something for everybody.

>>376926920
yeah but you use the guns like a melee weapon you dont have to aim or anything

>>376926920
they're also shitty guns

File: 4a0c214142c28ceebf88240aaa697435.jpg (60KB, 736x500px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 736x500px

>>376927010
I think they're pretty kewl.

File: 1493166235501.jpg (8KB, 258x200px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 258x200px

Because the east can't do it right either.

>MUH STRONG EMPOWERED WOMYN
>2+ hours of disgusting cutscenes, 50 hours of nauseating voice acting clips
>quick time events

But everyone gives it a pass because they can jerk off to the protagonist.Congrats, you're now on the same level as the Undertale fandom.

>>376926678
Bayonetta is LITERALLY in the OP you dumb faggot.

God of War is the best they can do

>>376926678
>tfw like both
I want to make a mech game where some mechs have swords, some have guns, laser guns, and all kinds of different weird weapons. I also want the mechanic of after you beat a mech, you jump from your cockpit into theirs and have to kill them with a sword. Why can't western devs dream of shit like this?

>>376927370
GoW3's combat wasn't half bad.

Shame they decided to scrap all that shit for the new one.

File: 1395358211313.gif (32KB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 250x250px

>>376927237
Nice bait, boyo. I'm half convinced you really are just a retard and not baiting.

>>376927416
>I want to make a mech game where some mechs have swords, some have guns, laser guns, and all kinds of different weird weapons. I also want the mechanic of after you beat a mech, you jump from your cockpit into theirs and have to kill them with a sword. Why can't western devs dream of shit like this?

I guess your joke here is that you're just describing Titanfall 2, which is actually a great game.

File: 1474053465680.gif (974KB, 285x171px) Image search: [Google]

974KB, 285x171px

>>376926214
Amerifat here. I love those games but it's just not a good market for them. Almost all Americans are too stupid and uncoordinated to play any game with a high skill ceiling unless it's an FPS or racing game. Americans are also incapable of introspection, and always blame the game for being badly designed when they suck at them. Therefore, these games generally have a bad reputation around here. It's pretty pathetic IMO.

It makes me so sad. Spectacle fighters are my favorite genre.

>>376926990
Transformers was pretty fun.

>>376927539
Well I love Titanfall 2, but besides Ronin there's no weird swords and other weapons besides guns and laser guns. Also, I wanted something with more weight to the melee combat, T2 is more shoot and move in the mechs, kind of floaty. Also, there's no jumping into cockpits. Like, I want open cockpits like Pacific Rim or Power Rangers, and you have a sword fight in there to kill them.

>>376927475

Yes, go on and consider it bait. Actually arguing why it's so is another matter. Can you do that?

>>376927794
I even said I was half willing to believe it wasn't bait and you are actually that stupid, so your inability to read is already speaking for itself. Unsurprising, really.

>>376926214
Because nobody bought 2010 Splatterhouse.

>>376926449
God of War can get pretty cuhrazy.

File: 23456789.png (114KB, 339x348px) Image search: [Google]

114KB, 339x348px

>>376927921

>it's stupid to NOT want retarded quick time events in what's supposed to be a good video game

t. casual.

>>376927416
>Why can't western devs dream of shit like this?
I dont know I guess they move beyond the mentality of a 12 year old unlike most japanese game designers

They make them but theyre mediocre at best. The east isnt exactly great at it either, you have 3 companies responsible for almost all the best games in the genre and everything else is subpar.

>>376928162
>just making shit up and flailing around angrily
>still typing like a retard
Delicious.

>>376928202
>Mature games for mature gamers like myself

>>376926214
amerifarts can't into gameplay.
we only produce "cinematic experiences" and care about "accessibility"

>>376928471
>and care about "accessibility"
You're an absolute fucking retard and hypocrite.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/268401/Platinum_Games_guide_to_action_game_design.php

>>376928345

Go back to my original post. I specifically say that I hate quick time events, which you call me retarded for.

>>376928471
>amerifarts can't into gameplay
>meanwhile one of the most talked about east games is literally a dating sim


Kill yourself If you can't enjoy both east and west games

>>376928202
Alright, what game are you making?

>>376928732
>I hate quick time events, which you call me retarded for.
Okay, I get it, you are legitimately retarded. You win, you weren't baiting, you're just that stupid. I did no such thing.

>>376929032

>I did no such thing

>>376927475

>says "you're a retard" for the entire post

Or would you like to admit that you cherrypicked my post for things you didn;t like?

>>376926678
Historically speaking the japanese were massive gun-a-boos, but things change. The sword fanaticism is mostly just memery for story telling purposes.

>>376927643
I think it's more western gamers don't like flair/over-the-top animations/attacks and start blaming the games design if they do badly in one that has it

>>376927776
https://youtu.be/JOTUvwBL-cw?t=29s

>>376929757
What the heck is this?

>>376930295
Upcoming WIP stuff. Includes jumping into an enemy's cockpit.

>>376930583
So that's a dev? That's fucking rad.

>>376929663
Basically this.

I know people who are turned off by certain games when they see an animation that looks unrealistic.

>>376929242
Why bother when you proved there is no speaking to you since everything goes over your head?

>>376926214
>bayo
>>>/trash/

>>376926214
>hack and slash
>i.e. games like diablo

They do, you are talking about the wrong genre.

>>376931239

Not an argument. You still said I was retarded because I hated quick time events. Either clarify if that's true, or we're done here.

File: 1487303324064.jpg (46KB, 500x360px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 500x360px

>>376927946
Don't blame me. They made a bad game.

I love the atmosphere/aesthetic of Splatterhouse, but the combat has no depth. No real combos. No flare. No situational moves. No variability in how weapons felt. No variability in your method of attack. Just spamming the same attack button over and over while dodging. Even Metal Gear Rising had more depth than that game. At least MGR had parrying.

I wanted to like it, but it just wasn't good.

>>376931718
>Not an argument
Not an argument.

>Either clarify if that's true
Already did, retard.

>>376932020

So you admit that you need quick time events in a game, or you don't consider it fun.

File: 1494049688610.gif (3MB, 299x200px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 299x200px

>>376927237
Fine I'm bored so I'll take the bait.

>MUH STRONG EMPOWERED WOMYN
Which works for Bayo because she's sexy as fuck and her power is so over the top that it's just fun.
>2+ hours of disgusting cutscenes, 50 hours of nauseating voice acting clips
"I hate anything goofy or fun because I'm a bitter faggot"
>quick time events
That actually test your reaction time instead of being stupidly easy like 99% of QTEs in other games are. Those button mashing sequences are intense as fuck because they actually make you work during your mashes. You gotta go turbo fire on that shit.

Enjoy wallowing in self bitterness while you smirk at everything you anti-fun cocklord.

File: 1412793546412.jpg (169KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]

169KB, 800x600px

>>376932297
>still just angrily making up shit and claiming I said it while you flail around like the retard you are
>still typing like a retard
>still being retarded
This is why no one likes you.

>>376927237
why do people complain about cutscenes when you can skip them

File: 1493144294626.png (21KB, 438x500px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 438x500px

>>376927237
Hmm...I wonder who could be behind this post

>>376931285
>im le contrarian
>>>/reddit/

Because western studios don't have any good computer animators to make CUHRAZEE action look good. Look at BioWare, they're a AAA publisher with millions of EA dollars behind them, and they can't even ANIMATE A FUCKING FACE properly. Imagine some bioshit dev trying to animate some gun-fu shit Bayonetta does.

>>376933164
>>376933116
>>376933064
>>376932967

Not an argument.

>>376932659

>Which works for Bayo because she's sexy as fuck and her power is so over the top that it's just fun.
No, it's not fun. Being forced to skip hours of cutscenes and having quick time events shoved in my face is the antithesis of fun. It's what a lazy game developer does when he doesn't make to actually make a good game.

>"I hate anything goofy or fun because I'm a bitter faggot"
"I need cutscenes and story to get me to play a game because a game luring me in with good gameplay is an absurd concept"

>That actually test your reaction time instead of being stupidly easy like 99% of QTEs in other games are.
You know what would be better? ACTUAL GAMEPLAY. Plus, don't kid yourself. They're piss easy if you've ever touched an actual video game and not a cinematic experience.

>button mashing sequences are intense
lol. Pressing one button over and over is nothing. Being required to press multiple buttons in varying orders depending on the situation is what makes a game good, since you can't use repetition or brute force to get through it.

>>376933835
Is Bayonetta the ultimate bait to call you out, ACfag?

>>376933835
>Not an argument.
Not an argument.

>"I need cutscenes and story to get me to play a game because a game luring me in with good gameplay is an absurd concept"
This is the only other line I read, and it's fucking hilarious, Bayonetta's selling point is the gameplay you retarded faggot, because it does it well. There is even a controller shortcut to skip all cutscenes. Good job continuing to prove what an utter retard you are.

>>376926214
is that something you would want?
cause they can be made

>>376934093
I would like them to be done well.

>>376934000

>Bayonetta's selling point is the gameplay you retarded faggot,
Literally not true. You can see this in any discussion of Bayonetta. Not a single person discusses the gameplay. It's always porn dumps or erotic roleplay, or meme posts like "Bayonetta will never fart on your face" or something stupid from 9gag. If the gameplay was so good, people would talk about it instead of jerking off to porn dumps.

>>376927237
Bayo's not supposed to be empowering, she's supposed to be fun to look at.

>>376929663
>WESTERN GAMERS

No, it's just amerifats. Europe is considered "west" and Europe has and always will be a weeb continent that loves everything Japanese be it panty quest #138 or character role playing games like DMC, Bayoneta, MGR or NierA.

It's only amerifats spouting "lol donte white anime hair lmao muh 2000 year old demon with huge swords, game is 2fast5me i prefer bald marines with bazookas".

>>376934404
>Literally not true
Nice lie.

>Not a single person discusses the gameplay
Nice lie.

>It's always porn dumps
By this logic no video game on the planet has any gameplay discussion if you're looking at /v/. Congrats, you're the exact retard you've always proven to be.

>>376934404
Because this place is filled with horny fucks that don't actually play video games.

>>376934603
>>376934658

>By this logic no video game on the planet has any gameplay discussion if you're looking at /v/.
Actually, plenty of video games have good discussions. The secret is that they're actually well made, and aren't just fodder for fap fuel. Now, does everything have porn about it? Sure, I'm not saying that. But is it possible to have a discussion about a game without the porn rearing its ugly head? It should be possible.

>>376934832
So because people are attracted to the main character the game's other merits are made invalid to you?

>>376935019

More like "every single discussion that has ever happened was people jerking off to the main character, so the game's other merits don't exist."

>>376934832
>game has a girl in it
>people like the girl
>therefore the game cannot possibly have any value
>having women in the game is sexist because it's empowerment fantasy
And you wonder how I know you're retarded.

>>376935093
wrong

uhhh, diablo?

nips are actually way outclassed in this category

>but muh platinum

>>376926214
>hack & slash games
Diablo, PoE, titan quest, Sacred e.t.c.

File: 1432724756686s.jpg (7KB, 250x241px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 250x241px

>>376935302
>>376935401

>>376935302
Japan shits out hundreds of dungeoncrawlers each year though.

>>376935537
and they all suck

>>376935537
that are terrible, people still play diablo 2.

>>376927643

>Almost all Americans are too stupid and uncoordinated to play any game with a high skill ceiling

Yeah because amerifats are too dumb to push the action button a million times in musous.

>>376935218
>>376935156

>game has a girl in it
>people like the girl
And I'm gonna stop you right there. you don't like her. You just like her tits and ass. If those were absent from the game, you'd spit upon the series and call it "SJW shit".

amerifats can't understand the beauty in this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma3zKo4IaLU

>>376927946

i did but that was only because it had the original trilogy on there. and it was several years after release.

>>376926670
So the west is in SEGA CD FMV mode these days. How sad.

>>376931435

that's a dungeon crawler.

>>376935507
for every one good game platinum makes they shit out 5 bad ones

>>376935679
wrong

>>376935679
>You just like her tits and ass.
Nope, but you being retarded and feeling the need to deflect in this way, probably projecting yourself onto others is quite amusing.

>If those were absent from the game, you'd spit upon the series and call it "SJW shit".
I like how you're saying that I'd be you if I didn't do the thing I don't do. Unlike you, I'm not retarded, I wouldn't magically just start saying the shit you do if I wasn't attracted to the character I'm not attracted to. I would have to be beaten on the head with a cast iron pan or something.

>>376935302

>diablo
>hack and slash

uh anon.....

>>376935837
except their only bad games are korra and ninja turtles

>>376927643
dude totally *selects ultra weebstorm from the dropdown menu and watches the 5 minute cutscene*

>>376935901

>Nope,
Then why does all discussion about Bayonetta lead to porn dumps? It happens every single time, without fail?

>Unlike you, I'm not retarded
Well, no offense, but I wouldn't be quick to say that Mr. "story is more important than gameplay".

>>376935679

>you just like her tits and ass

oh and things like character, personality, OTHER bodily features that are sexually pleasing like her hair, attire, and demenour, I mean yeah she's a sexpot but tits come and go. It's what's behind the plot that counts for longevity.

>>376936082
>Then why does all discussion about Bayonetta lead to porn dumps?
it doesn't? she doesn't even have good porn. neck yourself you fucking retard.

>>376935954

>forgetting Star Fox Zero

shame

>>376936082
>Then why does all discussion about Bayonetta lead to porn dumps
I don't see one here. And this question was already answered anyway, again, you just prove your retardation. /cgg/ wasn't alive for years by porn dump like /lzg/ is.

>but I wouldn't be quick to say that Mr. "story is more important than gameplay".
Again, you just making up random shit as you angrily flail around in your retard rage and claiming I said it is not an argument, especially considering I said the LITERAL OPPOSITE >>376934000

Guess we're done here, you've done nothing but waste my time with your drooling and angry retard fits. Hope my mention of cast iron pans didn't give you flashbacks.

>>376936373
I thought they weren't involved in the gameplay for that

when will weebs be classified as a mental illness?

>>376936174

>oh and things like character, personality
IE things that don't exist, otherwise they would merit discussion. but they never do.

>>376936261
>>376936410

>it doesn't?
How foolish.

>especially considering I said the LITERAL OPPOSITE >>376934000

What you say and what you do are completely opposite things. You can claim all you want that Bayonetta has good gameplay, but until I see threads that are 100% gameplay discussion with absolutely nothing else in them, then that's not gonna be believable.

>ad hominem

Yeah, very mature.

File: Capture.png (43KB, 1287x683px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 1287x683px

>>376926449

>>376936586

>merit discussion but never do

the same can be said for near a tomato. we could talk about it being an open world hack n' slash with a deep story but LOOK AT 2B'S BUTT!

>>376934000
>gameplay
a large part of bayo is quick time events

>>376936859
wrong

>>376937021
you didn't play it then

>>376936842

Actually, you're right. It's why I hate Nier as well. It's nothing but fanservicey garbage.

>>376937087
also wrong

>>376937157

oh but when it was an androgynous man in a relationship with a trap it was okay. But sexy gynoids aren't okay.

>>376937431

Actually, I didn't like the original nier either. I say death to all fanservice.

>>376938164
I say your a faggot

>>376927237
>I collect stone medals

Gut gud

https://youtu.be/5jj0W1uJJKo

>>376938410

Better to have a derogatory insult thrown at me then a boring cinematic experience.

>>376938748

>implying the game is even difficult on infinite climax

When even Kotaku can beat your game, you know you made a very poor product.

File: IMG_1617.png (118KB, 265x258px) Image search: [Google]

118KB, 265x258px

>>376938881
You can beat the game and still suck at it.

>>376936082
>Then why does all discussion about Bayonetta lead to porn dumps? It happens every single time, without fail?

Bayonetta has relatively little R34.

Trust me on this.

File: 1494004718828.jpg (6KB, 223x251px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 223x251px

>The fucking roastie in this thread getting this triggered over Bayonetta.

Jesus Christ.

>>376939349

What does that say about the game when it's too friendly to casuals?

>>376939360

>Bayonetta has relatively little R34.

the fact that it's almost bigger on tumblr than Undertale and FNAF combined would argue otherwise. Then again, I barely browse that craphole of a website, so I mainly go by 4chan threads.

>>376926214
It's called slasher, you son of a jester

>>376926214
ameritards can't design combat rules
western games are always clunky, rigid shit

>>376927946
>Game reuses it 5 finishers over and over again
>Game stretched on for two more areas when you've seen everything so it wears out it's welcome
>Needed way more enemy variety
>Needed to pick more 2spooky environments

At least it had real nudity and gave you something to look forward to when collecting shit instead of teasing you and dancing around the issue

>>376926214

Too video-gamey.

>>376938881
>>376939629
>What does that say about the game when it's too friendly to casuals?
nothing

you have a lot of non-arguments

File: 1368747291151.jpg (59KB, 460x296px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 460x296px

>>376939603
Being so retarded to call some guy that does not like some game a roastie. But again you need to be retarded to call anyone a roastie.

>>376939968

>nothing
That's what they say about Call of duty and Uncharted. When you make your game too friendly for "higher profit margins" it leads to casualized slop.

>>376939629
It says that it is a score attack game where the whole point is to get the highest scores by stylin on fools. Any game that allows unlimited continues (I.E. almost all modern games) can be beaten at almost any skill level as long as you don't need some asspull ability or skill to proceed further. You just have to keep trying until you get lucky or something.

>>376940035
Oh, so you're an autistic Smashfaggot then.

>>376940160

Needing to rely on arbitrary numbers for your game to be fun is just the sign of a terrible game. Your product should be fun in addition to this, but with Bayonetta it isn't.

Besides, what's the point to getting a high score when the game plays itself anyway? With disgusting quick time events everywhere, retarded button mashing, cutscenes rampant, and moments where the game literally rolls over for you to do an awesome cinematic take-down like in Call of Duty.

File: tumblr_nf17poOHrF1r2eyrho2_500.png (161KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

161KB, 500x500px

I think it's high time I post this idea that's been stewing in the back of my mind for years since Bayo 1 and it has just occured to me to complete it with Balder.
One has to ponder where the natural progression in this story will go and how and where that will make Kamiya take it. In Bayonetta 3, simply put, I want the story and mechanics in the game to be expanded on so that in this iteration; Bayo unlocks the Lumen side of her blood and becomes the first being to birth Lumen/Umbran dual arts. The first female to -ever- weild Lumen powers and a massively offensive bastardization of the status quo, garnering the full wrath of Paradiso and Inferno.
Jesus anons imagine how fucking stellar Bayo will look in Lumen then some orignial Lumen/Umbran garb. Have it be revealed that this was all apart of based Balder's -real- keikaku to upend the status quo of both Angels and Demons (of which he despises -both-) and kill Jubileus and give her eyes to his beloved daughter and, through her, humanity. All his prior douchbaggery was an act and in reality his goal was always to create the greatest world for his daughter and to rip away power from any immortal being. Even his "corruption" by Loptr was a ruse and he simply removed his memories before Loptr ever infected him so he could not discover his true intentions whilst inside him. He knows that the providence and love of Paradiso and the rebeliouness of Inferior, while -admirable- are fucking wasted on worthless immortal Angels and Demons and only humanity is worthy of it. A full on reverse-Zamasu.

File: father_balder_by_stardustdrivedragon-d923vmj.jpg (103KB, 1024x683px) Image search: [Google]

103KB, 1024x683px

>>376940626
-Cont
Bayonetta herself reflects this by adopting a sort of meta mischievous-virtue (which has always been her nature), an acknowledgment that Paradiso's virtue and Inferno's freedom are king but a rejection of Angels' elitism & control and Demons' hedonism & rage. Just imagine her in veiled in Lumen light embracing virtue but with a shit eating grin and a pechant for anarchy. Just a before with little to no alteration to her personality. Great right?

Geting into the actual gameplay; reality would get all kinds of fucked up and quantum-mutated fusions of Angel and Demon would start to appear as enemies. Mechanically this would manifest as a new dimension of gameplay on the same (or greater) level of nuance as dodge-offset; Lumen and Umbran weapons and attacks would need to be switched between and chosen as these chaotic enemies weaknesses to Paradiso and Infero wax & wane with visual indication. Different enemies would have different shift patterns and different metas needed to combat them.

Overall I think this nicely addresses an obviously common curiosity on the part of players wondering what it would be like to play as a Lumen Sage. We've all thought of it.
Now r8 my autism

>>376926214
Because americans see the dumb masses as the only audience worth doing anything for and you can't market a hack'n'slash game for them. Unless you really dumb it down and make it cinematic/realistic/buzzwordic but then it's no longer a hack'n'slash.

File: sample-8e87339661185a424d874c765e166e80.jpg (119KB, 850x850px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 850x850px

>>376940440

what are the best hack and slash/fighting games on PC?

Any decent/modern ones that are good?

Got a hankering to play something else after finishing Bayo.

>>376940989
Killer Is Dead is damn fun if you don't mind a few technical problems and wonky hitboxes.

File: SHOO SHOO ARMORED CORE FAGGOT!.jpg (216KB, 617x616px) Image search: [Google]

216KB, 617x616px

>>376927237
>whines about women in vidya
check
>whine about "muh cinematic elements"
check
>brings up Undertale for comparsion and "muh hypocrisy
and check

>>376927475
>>376932659
>>376933064
>>376933116
>>376934480
>>376938748
very amazing no cuhrayzeefag in this thread notice this was ACfag's shitposting again

File: oni_1600.jpg (477KB, 1600x1200px) Image search: [Google]

477KB, 1600x1200px

Bungie West basically made a Ghost in Shell game. That is pretty good.
Occasionally somebody else tries.
Its just not something that happens a lot.

Meanwhile in Europa, a distributor is holding Gothic IP as a hostage, and the Gothic studio is making a new Risen game each 3-5 years.

>>376940586
The numbers aren't arbitrary tho. They are awarded based on your performance and skill.

If someone you don't like 'beating the game' is a sign that the game sucks, then stop playing games all together because shitters can beat pretty much any game with a single-player campaign made over the last 15 years and most MMO's are even easier than that.

Also, the game doesn't play itself. The QTE's are there as quick 'gotcha' moments to try and catch you sleeping and you won't get a decent score or even progress in the game if you don't do them properly.

>>376927643
>DMC
>high skill
>when it's more brain dead than simplified fighting game inputs

>>376941305
>gothic
>HnS
they already have gothic back since risen 2

it's the last question here.
http://www.gothicz.net/serie-gothic/mike-hoge-talks-about-gothic/

read somewhere that they dont want to disappoint fan or some shit.

>>376941901
They also finished the series with Gothic 3. So for them, it over. So if they release anything, it would either be a remake, or a spin off.

Its a very healthy mindset

How hard is Devil May Cry 4?

This will be my first DMC game. I know GamingBrit raves about it or whatever.

>>376942201
I never considered any of the DMC games hard except maybe 1 because of how limited dantes tools are
3 was heralded as some super hard game omg!!!1! for whatever reason even though the game is really fair
4 is a decent entry point because the first half of the game you play as a character not as complex as Dante to specifically help new people into the game
Since you havent played 3 dante might overwhelm you a bit at first but once you get him down he is easily the most fluid character in any game ever

File: coop.png (1MB, 1236x1440px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1236x1440px

>>376941318

>The numbers aren't arbitrary tho. They are awarded based on your performance and skill.
And what does it matter if it isn't hindering your gameplay progression? If you can earn nothing but stone, and yet you can continue playing the game, then why even bother? the game shouldn't magically let you have a pass, there should be a brick wall preventing you from going further. It's essentially nothing more than cosmetic jerk material for your ego, since it isn't doing anything good for the gameplay.

>The QTE's are there as quick 'gotcha' moments to try and catch you sleeping
So the game is so boring that I'll be falling asleep every 5 seconds, thus prompting a quick time event to wake me up. Gotcha. Totally legit gameplay there.

>>376942467
>3 was heralded as some super hard game omg!!!1! for whatever reason even though the game is really fair

DMC3 vanilla was fucking hard though.

The west's normal was japs hard and the yellow orb system is punishing as fuck.

>>376942485
>And what does it matter if it isn't hindering your gameplay progression? If you can earn nothing but stone, and yet you can continue playing the game, then why even bother? the game shouldn't magically let you have a pass, there should be a brick wall preventing you from going further. It's essentially nothing more than cosmetic jerk material for your ego, since it isn't doing anything good for the gameplay.

Bayonetta should have a stamina meter.

>>376942579
hard mode is not hard at all though
and yellow is only way to play because gold is for scrubs who I bet also use item

>>376942709
>hard mode is not hard at all though

It is if you're a newb, especially in the beginning when you got no health, no alt weapons and no DT. DMC3 vanilla had an insane wall to climb, you have to remember that when it came out there was very few games like it and people were generally not very experienced in the genre.

>>376942672
>Bayonetta should have a stamina meter
Of all the stupid shit I've seen today this is by far the dumbest.

>>376942672

I'm not arguing that. Just that, if your game is about "style" and "BEING LE CRAZY XDXD" then it should actively stop you from progressing if you're only putting in the minimal effort.

I'll defend any choices made in Bayonetta except the quick time events.
QTE's should be permanently eradicated.

>>376943265
If they did that casuals would quit after the first level.

File: Untitled.png (38KB, 143x209px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 143x209px

>>376943651

>If they did that casuals would quit after the first level.

>>376942485
The game doesn't magically let you pass anymore than any other game magically lets you pass. You still have to defeat the enemies and perform to proceed. Getting a stone medal is like getting a D grade in school. Getting pure platinum is like getting an A++. Mr D average and Mr A++ both graduate from school, but that doesn't mean that the damn school was easy or that it's a shit school.

>So the game is so boring that I'll be falling asleep every 5 seconds

Nope. Basically, having to shift from doing combos and other tasks to quickly inputting button presses that appear on the screen is there to keep you on your toes.

There's also a dodge counter system that allows you to get in mega-damage and mega points if you dodge certain attacks perfectly and the taunt enrages enemies to allow you to rack up more points.

But it's clear that you just want to bitch about the damn game so whatever. What's ***your*** idea of a good and truly challenging game in this genre?

>>376943265
I don't think so, it's kinda humilliating for some people getting such a low grade.
If you suck way too much then you lose before clearing the stage because the enemies defeated you.
If you're bad but you manage to clear the stage then you can continue but with a retard stamp attached to your forehead.
It also leads to less frustration and being able to enjoy the game to someone who's not good enough while still letting him now he's shit.

>>376943909
>>376943651
>>376943265

If they did that then everyone would quit after the first level because nobody is instantly going to be getting gold and platinum the first time they pick up a game. That's like flunking people from math class on the first day because they don't already know what they are there to learn,

>>376943265
>>376943909
obviously you're some sort of idiot elitist that thinks games should have a barrier of entry regardless of genre but platinum games are designed that even button mashing retards can get through them with tons of continues and stone rewards
people that stick around to get skilled at them have the most fun though

File: 1491932643295.jpg (30KB, 539x552px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 539x552px

>>376943265
>Game about being stylish.
>Game should force you to be stylish thereby defeating the whole point of being stylish.

Kamiya specifically make games so that if you want to show off, you can. Almost anybody can beat Bayonetta but the fun comes from getting the Platinum trophies and feeling like you've truly mastered the game.

File: 256px-Hunter_cover.png (147KB, 256x359px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 256x359px

You niggers need to look into the past to find a good HnS game
For example:

>>376944024
>>376944073

>You still have to defeat the enemies and perform to proceed
Which is easy because Bayonetta is ultimately just the watered down stepchild of Devil may Cry. I'm not listening to anyone who says that quick time events and button mashing somehow makes a game challenging.

>Mr D average and Mr A++ both graduate from school, but that doesn't mean that the damn school was easy or that it's a shit school.
In higher grade schools, you don't pass even if you don't get Fs. You have to actively try for a C average. Of course thanks to standards being lowered, now everyone gets a participation award.

>Basically, having to shift from doing combos and other tasks to quickly inputting button presses that appear on the screen is there to keep you on your toes.
Then it failed miserably, since quick time events are by definition casual garbage.

>What's ***your*** idea of a good and truly challenging game in this genre?
Nothing. Hack and slash is in itself a casual genre. Every other installment is basically God of War or some Devil May Cry ripoff, where you mash button and you get high score. There's no thought process behind it whatsoever. You want a skill requiring genre, I'd look into the shmups, the RTS's, the grand strategy, and the roguelikes. At least those don't bore you to death with quick time events and cutscenes.

>It also leads to less frustration and being able to enjoy the game to someone who's not good enough
This is a terrible idea. If you don't know how to play the game well, you don't deserve to play it. We need to stop coddling our audiences.

>>376944787
>Nothing. Hack and slash is in itself a casual genre. Every other installment is basically God of War or some Devil May Cry ripoff, where you mash button and you get high score. There's no thought process behind it whatsoever. You want a skill requiring genre, I'd look into the shmups, the RTS's, the grand strategy, and the roguelikes. At least those don't bore you to death with quick time events and cutscenes.
Look I'm more of an INTfag than DEXfag as well but you're so full of shit right now and you know it.

>>376944301


>If they did that then everyone would quit after the first level because nobody is instantly going to be getting gold and platinum the first time they pick up a game.
That sounds like a refusal to learn, and if someone can't get into that, they probably should go back to Call of Duty.

>That's like flunking people from math class on the first day because they don't already know what they are there to learn,
Actually, it's more akin to flunking a troublemaker because he refuses to learn basics and doesn't listen in class.

>>376944304
>>376944370

>platinum games are designed that even button mashing retards can get through them with tons of continues and stone rewards
And I'm saying that's a terrible idea. I have no incentive to get anything but a stone reward, because the game doesn't give me a reason. I don't give a rat's ass about some dumb number. give me a physical reward that I can actively enjoy for my hard work. Might as well give me achievements while you're at it, and upload my score to facebook so everyone can jerk off my ego. To hell with actually giving me something I can enjoy tangibly, right?

>>376945208
>give me a physical reward that I can actively enjoy for my hard work.
don't play video games

>>376945208
You can only unlock Jeanne by platinuming the game. Is that tangible enough for you?

>>376944787
>Bayonetta is ultimately just the watered down stepchild of Devil may Cry

Bayonetta's more challenging and evolved than devil may cry

>>376945483

>a glorified reskin of Bayo, but with different weapon names and demon affiliations
>a reskin I have no reason to use since I already platinum'd the game

Wow. Easy there platinum. Don't want you overworking yourself.

>>376944787
Getting an F means you died, apparently you don't really have anything good to say with your "you can only pass with high grades" bs seeing that most of your post is bitching over qtes and how hardcore you think you are.

>>376945208
Video games are ultimately pointless and a waste of time.

Maybe earning Platinum trophies isn't just your kind of waste of time?

>>376945208
>it's more akin to flunking a troublemaker because he refuses to learn basics and doesn't listen in class.

But it's really not tho. You still need to learn the game to complete the damn game.

>>376944787
>Casual this casual that
>I'm totally too hardcore for these games, believe me
So, you don't really have any real argument?

>>376927237
>implying Undertale's character designs really get your loins empowered

you're a real special type of faggot aren't you?

File: c62.jpg (114KB, 762x464px) Image search: [Google]

114KB, 762x464px

>>376945970

Yeah okay Varg.

>>376946002

>But it's really not tho. You still need to learn the game to complete the damn game
The only thing you need to learn is how to button mash. That's it. Maybe get a degree in watching cutscenes, since that's all you'll be doing.

If you ask me, if Bayonetta was such a good game, it wouldn't need these crutches.

File: 84293.jpg (52KB, 728x826px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 728x826px

>>376945543
>Bayonetta's more challenging and evolved than devil may cry
Yes, because pressing a button to watch a minute long flashy cutscene is more challenging and evolved than pulling hour-long combos

>>376946172
>m-muh combos
Flashiness and length is not important when the combo is done against defenseless punching bags

File: there's no such thing as a broken clock being right, don't even try that defense.png (125KB, 1328x348px) Image search: [Google]

125KB, 1328x348px

>>376946109

Let me put it this way: there's a difference between "kinda casual" and "game journos jerk off to it because it's so horrendously casual that it appeals to their sensibilities".

Can you guess which one Bayonetta falls under?

>>376945735
Jeanne has differences in gameplay though, as expected you don't even know what you're talking about.

>>376946360
But Bayonetta 2 was casual and you won't any arguments against that. We were talking about Bayonetta 1 you stupid bitch.

>>376946381

They're not big enough differences to warrant wasting my time.

>>376946360
In the "everyone can enjoy it due to multiple difficulty settings" category. Also if you think similar metascores mean shit about mechanical depth then you're not very bright to begin with.

>>376946140
>The only thing you need to learn is how to button mash

You need to learn the combos, platforming and how time dodges or you won't get very par because button mashing will just cause your combos to fizzle out and you'll be wide open to get slapped with angel cocks. She has guns, but those only keep combos going and do shit-all to really stop anything.

>>376946329
At least the defenseless punching bags put up more of a resistance than bayonetta's enemies that can't even fight
Just mash one button, watch a cutscene where bayonetta flashes her ass and tits a bit, rinse and repeat

File: bayonetta.png (54KB, 639x327px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 639x327px

>>376946512

My point still stands amigo.

>>376946619

>"everyone can enjoy it due to multiple difficulty settings"
Not everyone deserves to enjoy it. It's because of this mindset that genres and series get watered down left and right for the brainless sheeple.

>>376946623
see>>376946653

>>376946538
You also have multiple unlockables in the game, the reward of clearing it in pure platinum is knowing that you dominated the game. If you want to get real rewards over time invested then you should get a job or something instead of expecting video games to give you content for something only a small amount of players is gonna achieve.

File: Gracious_&_Glorious.png (548KB, 554x558px) Image search: [Google]

548KB, 554x558px

>>376946653
Good to see you've never played the game ACfag.

>>376946329
>defenseless punching bags

The enemies in the game are not defenseless, they only seem that way when a skilled player cuts loose with some sick combos. Most enemies can block, dodge or tank attacks to hit you while you can't tank their shit to keep assaulting them.

File: ornstein-smough-large.jpg (100KB, 600x338px) Image search: [Google]

100KB, 600x338px

>>376947010

There's no real accomplishment in a game with quick time events and button mashing. I feel like I'm watching a movie half the time.

>>376947052

Oh boy, the Ornstein and Smough of Bayonetta. Totally hardcore, am I right my dude?

>>376946780
Not really, game's are meant to be enjoyed and every game in this genre can be enjoyed by anyone who can play vidya.
Game designers make.video games to entertain people, not to masturbate the ego of autistic hardcore gamers.

>>376946780
Hey, >>376946653 is an idiot. If you mash one button, you won't get very far.

le every game with melee combat is hack n slash haha xD

>>376947231

>Not really, game's are meant to be enjoyed and every game in this genre can be enjoyed by anyone who can play vidya.
And that's a problem because you're not rewarding higher skill levels. This is the exact argument people use to defend Call of Duty and Uncharted, and you don't even realize it.

>>376947339

>If you mash one button, you won't get very far.
Yeah, you have to be careful. If you button mash too fast, you'll beat the game.

>>376947173
>There's no real accomplishment in a game with quick time events and button mashing. I feel like I'm watching a movie half the time.
You keep moving the goalpost, cute. The game is just mashing buttons as most twitch-based videogames if you pretend to be retarded, qtes suck though but they're don't appear that often to be a major part of the experience.

>>376941163
>people are still replying to him
Other M is fucking shit.

File: IMG_1626.gif (897KB, 498x278px) Image search: [Google]

897KB, 498x278px

>>376947372
Stylin on fools is it's own reward.

File: IMG_1627.jpg (47KB, 720x340px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 720x340px

>>376947484
Well hey man, why don't you post a vid of you beating the game by mashing one button then. You can mash it at any speed you want.

>>376947484
you can mash one button for DMC as well (or any hack n slash), but it wont give you shit for satisfaction/score and is not fun at fucking all. just because you have no idea how to put any effort into style doesnt mean a games shit. bayo gives you all the tools to have awesome fights, you just choose to be a lazy cunt about it.

Something I liked about bayo was it can feel pretty fast. Run through in panther form and dive head first into fights and dive out again (excluding the fight rank time and witch time gates).

I'd like to play more action games that feels like you're just running by and slapping people dead on your way towards something else. Are there any that try and push that or is that just something that happens in action games when you eventually git gud?

>>376947372
CoD and Uncharted are hated not because everyone can play them but because their single player content has barely any skill ceiling or mechanical depth. Also the game rewards you with more content so...

>>376947603

Not in a single player game.

>>376947593

>The game is just mashing buttons as most twitch-based videogames

Nah, any skill based game will never ask you to button mash. You'll be constantly moving around, utilizing multiple weapons, and fighting enemies that *gasp* actually fight back! Something a little more than you can expect from Bayonetta.

>>376947774

If beating the game with a low score isn't fun, why would a high score change that? Why should I care about the score at all?

>>376947925

>their single player content has barely any skill ceiling or mechanical depth.
And yet they're highly rated by game journos and other casuals, who also just so happen to unanimously praise Bayonetta. So.....

>>376948002
>enemies don't fight back
Where did this meme come from? It wasn't true for DMC and it isn't true for Bayonetta.

File: 732983280302.jpg (13KB, 338x358px) Image search: [Google]

13KB, 338x358px

>>376948253

>Where did this meme come from?
It certainly didn't come from bayonetta, since that implies that the enemies did something.

>>376948002
>You'll be constantly moving around, utilizing multiple weapons, and fighting enemies that *gasp* actually fight back!
All of this happens in Bayonetta though if you're playing on anything higher than easy.
Since your entire argument sucks and is just "I'm totally too hardcore for this guys" and other simplistic shit any troll can spew then the validity of your posts should be proved by showing anything that confirms you're actually good at vidya.

>>376948164
>Journos like it therefore it's bad
They're also praised by people who love games with mechanical depth so... A game everyone can enjoy, from the casual to people looking for a challenge.
I know, rocket science, not only games with shitty reception among journos can have depth and challenge.

>>376948002
>Not in a single player game.

I suppose that singles gymnastics is easy then...

>>376948002
if you want a story game why not play a story game. all these hack n slashes core concepts is score. they give you all these moves to use in anyway you want and reward you for knowledge of said moves. the score reflects your skill in the game, and when you finally get a pure platinum it feels good because it shows how you grew in skill. score is reflection of how good you are at the game. if you dont want to have a sheet telling you that you are shit go play a game that isnt hack n slash/arcade like. what you want is a purely story based game like gonehome.

>>376948457

>All of this happens in Bayonetta though if you're playing on anything higher than easy.
There really isn't such a thing, since EVERY difficulty is easy. No punishments for not trying = no skill.

>>376948840

>They're also praised by people who love games with mechanical depth so.
Never happened. anytime discussion of Bayonetta took place, it was always a porn dump waiting to happen. No gameplay was ever discussed.

>>376948936

>if you want a story game why not play a story game.
please anon. I hate story based games. I just want a gameplay based game that isn't friendly towards casuals. If it has an easy mode, it has to be gimped so you don't get all the content. Something like that. And I mean ACTUAL content like levels and stages, not reskins.

File: 1450546806100.png (66KB, 350x273px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 350x273px

>>376940586
>>376942485
>>376943265
>>376944787
>>376945208
>>376946140
>>376946780
>>376946653
>>376947173
>>376947234
>>376948002
>>376948387
>>376949167

OH WHAT A DAY

>>376948164
>The game I like has a shitty score
>It's good because journos don't like it
I guess you should start eating your own feces because casuals and journos don't like doing that. I swear wannabe hardcore gamers couldn't be more retarded lol.

>>376926214
The east probably has 10 times as many titles, but the west generally blends the genre with other stuff. Maximo and Darksiders are perfect examples of this. Very rarely will you see a pure hack n slash, but that's fine seeing how the only good hack n slash games are from Capcom and Platinum.

>>376949167
>There really isn't such a thing, since EVERY difficulty is easy. No punishments for not trying = no skill.
>No proof of his supposed skill
Sure thing buddy.

>>376949246

>I guess you should start eating your own feces because casuals and journos don't like doing that.
Considering how high games like Fallout and Skyrim score, they enjoy doing that all the time. You just gotta pay them enough in bribe money and adspace.

Now, God Hand, I'd consider that marginally better than Bayonetta because of how much game journos hated it. It has its flaws, but anything that makes Jim Sterling rip out his hair in frustration is a good game to me.

>>376949167
https://youtu.be/3HcvGEHRS9Q
/v/ isn't everyone.

>>376949167
You wouldn't even be able to play it, seeing as how you're so vehemently opposed to trying to get anything higher than a stone award.

>>376949397

If you want me to demonstrate skill, then I need to play a game that requires it.

>>376949430
>>376949505

>you're so vehemently opposed to trying to get anything higher than a stone award.
Unless I'm getting a GOOD reward, I see no rerason.

>>376949167
>Never happened. anytime discussion of Bayonetta took place
There's a general dedicated to discussing these games, most threads also have gameplay discussion and there are multiple videos on the internet showing the things a skilled player can achieve.
Now link 5.Bayonetta threads from the archive, you'll see I'm right.

Here's another video to watch.
https://youtu.be/VxRxh8Ka5H8

>>376926214
Requires too much effort. It's easier to just slap together a third person cover shooter or a bamham/asscreed in Unreal Engine.

>>376949167
>There really isn't such a thing, since EVERY difficulty is easy. No punishments for not trying = no skill.

If you don't try in the game, you won't make any progress, you'll be stuck on the first mission. But you can always just show us how easy the game is.

>Never happened. anytime discussion of Bayonetta took place, it was always a porn dump waiting to happen. No gameplay was ever discussed.

There's lots of talk of gameplay in this thread. Where's the porn?

>I just want a gameplay based game that isn't friendly towards casuals

Almost every modern game is friendly towards casuals. If you want something that's not, go play eve online or something. Saying that a game should immediately crush gamers unless they are perfect is so much bullshit because nobody just starting a game will be perfect and nobody is going to put up with that shit long enough to learn the damn game. By your measure, fucking E.T. Is the height of gaming because you have to be really hardcore to figure that shit out without help.

>>376949589
>If you want me to demonstrate skill, then I need to play a game that requires
Go ahead, show your skill any other twitch-based game then and stop running away.

>>376949589
If you can't even put in an effort to try when there's already a combat system with depth and breadth and is fun to play, why would anyone assume you're not fine with complacency in every game?
Just continue bro! Use those items! Go ahead and ask friends to play the game for you while you're at it!
You're pathetic.

Western games tend to feature freedom as a central concept in game design, whereas Japanese games tend to bring you into a world of someone else's imagination.

Not American but DmC is probably the best hack n slash the west has ever made. But it got shit for carrying the dmc name

>>376927237
You're wrong about Bayonetta but even if you were right you'd be wrong about the genre by saying the east can't do it right when DMC3/4 and Ninja Gaiden 2/Black are still things and better then Bayo.

>>376950006
To say "the west" made DmC is disingenuous, Capcom's devs had to clean up Ninja Theory's mess.

>>376949668

>There's a general dedicated to discussing these games, most threads also have gameplay discussion and there are multiple videos on the internet showing the things a skilled player can achieve.
Nah. Every single thing you mentioned will last maybe 5 seconds before it goes into gratuitous ass shots and porn, thus signalling a bad game.

>>376949874
>>376949834

again, I have no reason to even want anything above a stone award. Where's the reward for it? It's not like the game is challenging me, so I don't feel accomplished beating it. It's another dime-a-dozen cinematic experience from our friends at Platinum. What makes it special aside from giving people boners?

>There's lots of talk of gameplay in this thread
Only because I called out the thread for jerking off cinematics as "good gameplay" so people went into damage control.

>Saying that a game should immediately crush gamers unless they are perfect is so much bullshit
t. never played Touhou or Dwarf Fortress.

>>376949407
God Hand had some good reviews but it has way more flaws than Bayonetta in anything except depth and challenge. Also
>Taking a lardass opinions this seriously
You sound beyond pathetic, no offense.

>>376927218
>bullet ejection ports are opposite of each other

Such a minor yet beautiful detail

>>376950006
You're probably right. It was certainly ambitious. Too bad the devs felt the need to shit all over the whole franchise every step of the way and in the end had the audacity to pander to fans of the franchise.

It was a fun shitstorm at least. Also red/blue mechanics are not fun.

Best hack n slash game coming through

>>376926449
why did you name god of war twice?

>>376950176
>Nah. Every single thing you mentioned will last maybe 5 seconds before it goes into gratuitous ass shots and porn, thus signalling a bad game.
>Can't post any thread from the archive
Nice bullshit faggot, nice goalpost moving too.

File: Baldur's_Gate_Dark_Alliance.jpg (17KB, 256x328px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 256x328px

>>376950308

>>376950176
You said absolutely nothing to address my post at all, so why bother quoting?
If you're fine with never improving as a player don't drag other people down to your level.
For someone who complains about cinematic games that play themselves or whatever you seem to have no problem putting in the bare minimum effort to clear a game.

>>376950241

>Taking a lardass opinions this seriousl
I hate him enough to instantly like anything he hates, because usually he's completely and utterly wrong. It's like a 100% accuracy.

>>376950379

Oh, I actually went ahead and did that.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/376902058/#376909636

First result that wasn't in this thread was a porn dump of Nintendo women, Bayonetta included. Boy, can I call em or what?

>>376926214
They do but they only make it like Diablo.

>>376950478

>If you're fine with never improving as a player don't drag other people down to your level.
Numbers and trophies will not make me want to improve. Actively stopping me from playing will, though. If you're holding my hand and giving me the equivalent of a participation award, while offering zero incentive to want to improve, then why bother?

File: 1492915527221.png (392KB, 479x477px) Image search: [Google]

392KB, 479x477px

>>376950637
Please show me your "participation award" if you even have one. Otherwise if you're bragging about getting silver awards or lower and not even admitting you didn't play the game it's even more laughable.

>>376949589
>quotes my post but doesn't address the video
Good job retard.

>>376950784

You mean the videos made by a memester who also praises games like Undertale and "cinematic narrative" in Uncharted? I didn't think you could find a worse person to prove your point, but you sure did surpassed my expectations.

>>376950781

Would it even change anything? I could show you a timestamped copy of Bayo on my WiiU, or the first on my steam account (because the damn bundle was apparently a limited time over) and it wouldn't change your mind. You have it set in your mind that Bayonetta is this perfect diety that can do no wrong, and that's fine. but you can't convince me of that. I think we can leave it at that and part ways from there. Ciao.

>>376950637
I don't understand your argument. Are you saying beating a hard enemy isn't progress? Provided you do the bare minimum and start every encounter with 100% hp because you restarted after death, isn't learning to beat the final boss still an improvement over beating the first enemy in the game?

You never become literally invincible, you still have to improve if you want to win

>>376950478
>>376950781
>>376950784
The moment he has to start backing up the inane drivel he spouts he sure falters and clams up quickly.

>>376928117
no

qte and spamming square aren't cuhrayzee

>>376951075
Go ahead and scamper away after losing another "argument," pal
I'll just go back to PPing chapter 9

>>376950523
>hate him enough to instantly like anything he hates
Yeah, you sound really pathetic. Retarded people like him aren't worth hating, they're just retarded clowns.

>>376950176
>I have no reason to even want anything above a stone award

Then you're one of those casuals that you keep bitching about.

>>376950460
That was a good series that unfortunately had the name of a much better yet different fundamentally series.

>>376950523
>First result that wasn't in this thread was a porn dump of Nintendo women, Bayonetta included. Boy, can I call em or what?
>Post
>Thread
In other words a thread that's not about Bayonetta, well done retard. Looks like I was right.

>this game should be harder so bad players can't progress, I just got my through by button mashing and getting bad grades
>so then play the game and try to get a good grade
>I shouldn't have to try because the game doesn't give me a real life reward
What sort of fucking doublethink is this person doing?

>>376951885
>expecting logic from ACfag

>>376952002
What does the AC stands for?

>>376952085
Armored Core

>>376950523
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/374932898/#374932898
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/374995638/#374995638
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/375139570/#375139570
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/375489051/#375489051
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/376329094/#376329094
I found multiple threads discussing the game and with little to none lewdposting desu, you're full of shit.

>>376952643
Nice to see him abandon the thread after losing. Good job anon.

>>376926214
It's pretty hilarious, the DmC devs were struggling with basic attack animations before Capcom jumped in

>>376935830
nope, Diablo is hack'n'slash game

>>376926214
Now even GoW turned into emotional-walking-sim.

File: smg acfag image.png (156KB, 338x358px) Image search: [Google]

156KB, 338x358px

>mfw people replying to my shitposts

>>376926214
Why japs don't make fps games?

checkmate athetits

>>376954410
ACfag always gets guaranteed replies. He's been at it for so long you'd think people would wise up and ignore him. He's the Barneyfag of Bayonetta.

>>376954545
They like seeing the character model and motion sickness or something along those lines.

>>376951178
God of War isn't about spamming, it's about chaining together hits as many hits on an enemy without relying on stronger moves to finish them off quickly, hence why weaker enemies can be finished off in one hit from pressing O or more hits from regular attacks. A more learned player would string killing them into a longer combo.

The harder difficulties also discourage spamming.

File: 1482539730366.jpg (31KB, 600x462px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 600x462px

It feels like there's been a lot of Bayonetta threads lately, that's pretty cool since I'm playing the first game right now.
What's your opinions on the arsenal? Right now I'm just playing with the default guns because that's how they appear in cutscenes, tried ou the katana a bit and it feels overpowered. Are they all like that?

File: ''GOD OF WAR IS JUST SQUARE SQUARE TRIANGLE XDXDXD'' -.webm (3MB, 720x406px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 720x406px

>>376951178
>being this retarded

File: wew.png (917KB, 640x786px) Image search: [Google]

917KB, 640x786px

>people forgotten about Christian of War

>>376956256
A game like this wouldn't allowed to be made in day like this. Is the game any fun to play?

>>376954601
Why does armored core have any problem with bayonetta

>>376926214
FOR THE LAST EFFIN TIME BAYONETTA AND OTHER EXTREME ACTION GAMES ARE NOT FREAKIN HACK N SLASHES DYNSATY WARRIORS IS A HACK N SLASHER NOTOIGORGJI RMKFBAYONATETTA AND DMC FIJOSO ISOTP OK? SOPT SOPT STOP STOP STOP
SATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>376959379
Nigger what's wrong with you

>>376956669
I thought that you, out of everyone here, would know about this game, Satan.

File: salty.jpg (130KB, 584x313px) Image search: [Google]

130KB, 584x313px

>>376960001
high induce of salt

>>376926214
They do, they just make bad ones

Western devs don't really have a mind for the subtleties of gameplay design and mechanical complexity and prioritize form over substance.

>>376926449
/thread

op is a retard

>>376946127
There's so much furfag porn of it. They unironically think the goat mom and the fish woman and shit are hot.

File: 1476420886201.png (5KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 300x300px

>>376926214
>Why amerifarts dont make hack & slash games?
Because people who are good at or at the least understand these game DO NOT make video games. They're poorfags, autist, 4chan posters.

Maybe if one of actually got off your asses and made an indie hack n slash and then moved up from there we'd have an american made DMC game. Until then we wont get one.

>>376961610
This.
That snaggletooth'd fish bitch? Seriously?