Help me pick one.

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>>376917179
>diablo 3

PoE sucks. Just stick with Diablo.

>>376917429
Actual retard detected

>>376917494
You actually like PoE? LMAO.

both meh but poe is extra meh, play diablo

I like PoE, it is very open in how it allows you to build your character. It's a pretty ugly game though, if that is a turnoff for you.

Titan Quest

diablo 2

>>376917179
stop playing a shitty genre of lifesucking games how bout dat

PoE doesn't get boring after 1 playthrough of the campaign.

poe if you enjoy trading and crafting
diablo just on your own

PoE is great if you have autism.

>>376917179
Grim Dawn

i haven't played d3 in a while. what's good about it now and why should i come back?

>>376917179
Battlerite.

PoE if you are poor, autistic and like dark caves

>>376917179
D3 as a game, at least you would have fun. PoE is for D2 nostalgiafags, it's better play to play D2 instead if you haven't already.

Grim Dawn

d2 > tq > d1 > gd > d3 > poe

>>376917179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zQgw_rKWT8

no not ever diablo 3, go with PoE

>>376918116
they fixed it

>>376917179
I played poe for two hours and never had fun. Gauntlet does a better job.

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>>376918282
>1:22:21

play both on and off especially around new seasons and ladders, unless you are supremely autistic.

>>376918321

Well D3 is a lot like gauntlet, and if that's the kind of game you want you definitely won't like PoE

>>376917179
Diablo 3 has way snappier and just more fluid gameplay, and is made actually very well. It just gets so fucking boring and awful after you do end-game content so many times. I've played every class almost twice now (except WD because they're pretty boring) in every season and my time with the game becomes more and more stale. But the first few times are really fun, making builds work and all.
The Campaign is a lot to be asked for, the story fucking sucks, act 2 may make you quit outright, but at least RoS fixed a lot of the loot and difficulty issues that existed before.

PoE is was more diverse and offered way more build paths and skills. Don't fall for the "huge talent tree!" meme because 98% of it are boring passive buffs that do fucking nothing new or interesting. The game feels sloppy and stiff at times and I still feel rubber-banding, and it just doesn't have that oomph that D3 has, but gives the player more room to do whatever they want.

Play both.

>>376917179
Diablo 3.
Poe is utter absolute garbage.

>>376918374
"stay awhile and listen"

>>376918045
The only true answer

>>376918572
>98% of the talent tree is useless.
Trying not being a meta-slave sometimes, you might actually have fun.

Jesus, the blizzarshill presence in here is off the charts.

No, we won't buy the necro because Diablo 3 is shit. Get that into your head Blizzard

>>376918741
no

>>376918572
>Don't fall for the "huge talent tree!" meme because 98% of it are boring passive buffs that do fucking nothing new or interesting

Honestly that's every talent tree in any game ever, but to PoE's credit, with how interconnected it is you can generally make every point be essential to your build in end game if you're autistic enough.

I can't do endgame in D3 due to weird connection issues I have with Blizzard servers. Kind hard to do rifts or caches when DCing resets your progress.

I haven't played PoE much since I got into the genre more, but I dislike the active skills being item drops.

Steam sale when so I can just grab Grim Dawn?

>>376918750
Except I didn't but the difficulty curved so hard that I needed more of mainstat. And maps make casual/fun builds impossible.
And it's not like it's a problem playing in meta, each class has like 5+ viable builds so eventually you'll find a build that's both good and fun.
Unless you wanna make some garbage build centered on Ele Hit like a retard.

1. Path of Exile is free, so you have nothing to lose choosing it over Diablo 3.
2. Both are trash, but Path of Exile is slightly less trash.

>>376918750

PoE does require you to min max. The passives don't do much, but without squeezing in every notables and relevant keystones you will either have a terrible time leveling up or has zero relevance in lategame content.

I heard D3 Necro is in beta. Any beta players want to drop some details? Kind of interested in dropping some money on the new character. If it's successful enough, maybe Blizz will make more classes.

>>376917846
no its fucking not. you either follow meta builds or you're stuck in midgame

>>376917952
yeah it gets boring halfway into first act

>>376919050

>And maps make casual/fun builds impossible.

Wtf are you talking about? Power creep has been ridiculous over the years.

Everything is a joke up to Shaper and maybe 1-2 of the guardians depending on just how big of a meme your build is.

Unless your idea of a fun build is something like auto-attacks only or 500% increased X damage no defenses I really don't see this "big difficulty curve".

>>376917179
D3 is a trainwreck through and through. Stay as far away from it as possible.

>>376920108

passives add up. The issue with them in PoE is you gotta pick a theme with passives and try to stick with them. Like tons of health or focus on crit or whatever.

>>376917645
It's better than Diablo 3, and is very soon due to abolish the three-difficulty system that results in so much repetition.

>>376920589
meta builds only dictate clear speed not some imaginary merc wall u dumb stupid poster

meta slaves need to GET OUT

>>376918225
But D2 is only superficially like D2. Its skill and stat system is completely different.

>>376917179
>paying 20 + Required 10 expansion which adds content past beating the campaign so grinding isn't as boring
>paying nothing to get the same thing except better and new free content in the coming months which is bigger than diablos base game to begin with

HMMMM I WONDER WHICH IS BETTER

A REAL TUFFY

>>376919050
m8 I went with an ice arrow build for my ranger and I've been ruining shit every which way, and I get told that ice is one of the shittiest elements so I dunno what's going on there

>>376921824
kill yourself you know you are lying

>>376917179
I played D3 and it's fucking shit. Just play PoE and if you play until you need to buy extra stash space, then you obviously like the game and should "buy" it by getting the extra slots.

>>376922085
>I'm lying

nigga just play the game I'm not lying. You can literally check if I'm lying by playing the game. You'll see that being a meta slave is fucking retarded meme and its not true u fucking dummy

>>376917179
diablo 3 (+expac) is better for casual play
poe is for autistic people

>>376918827
I will, necromancer was what I played in Diablo 2. Blizzard is good at ruining things and then tugging on your nostalgia strings bringing you back. I remember I was playing Hearthstone and got a huge craving to play WoW again. Only subbed for a month or two but they got me.

>>376922423
>wanting your game to be casual
That would have been a bad thing around here 6 years ago.

>>376921589
You say that like it's significantly different for any other game ever.

>>376922659
there's nothing wrong with a game being casual
the gameplay of arpgs like diablo and poe and grim dawn is inherently simple and mindless
it only makes sense that the game itself is a quick 20 minute time waster that requires little thought

Diablo for the first 3-4 season is fun on HC for starters
PoE is fun for like I say 2-4 weeks after a League starts both HC and Casual

Eventually you get bored as fuck with both

>>376917179
Neither. Run while you still can.

>>376917179
Do you have money?
Do you have autism?

I like the story, characters and atmosphere of PoE more than D3. They remind me of the kind of quality I would expect from D2 and D1, just with expanded systems.

D3 got... really retarded. In more than a few ways. Maybe I should have seen it coming with the Diablo books being utter horseshit, but I always held out hope the games would handle it better.

Nobody who made D2 good is at Blizzard anymore. Literally nobody. They're over at whatever studios are making Torchlight or made Hellgate: London. And I'm not willing to trust the people who made D3 to make a good D4, should it ever happen. I've moved on and I think PoE is more than just a good substitute, it's a great successor.

>>376918750
*oneshots you*
heh, should've followed the meta... kid

Stop with the stealth marketing op. You should know that the majority of /v/ is too casual for shit like POE.

>>376922085
If you think you can't clear the game with anything other than a meta build you're a real shitter senpai.
It's gonna take more time and more ACTUAL PLAYING instead of just dashing around at the speed of light demolishing everything in sight, but there's no wall that will stop your progress.
Unless you're the kind of autismo who needs to top leaderboards every league and can't live with the feeling of not doing as much damage as quickly as possible to everyone on the map there's no reason to be a gay guide-reading meta-following kid.

>>376917179
If you want a game that looks pretty, and is a satisfyting button smasher with little to no depth, no player customization thanks to WoW style itemization and who's only end game is praying to RNG for a good RNG dungeon to clear, then praying to RNG for the 0.1% primal weapon to drop then praying to RNG in hopes that the primal weapon rolled with the stats you need then Diablo 3 is your game.

If you want an ugly game that looks like it came straight out of 2005 but is pretty much as close to a sequel to Diablo 2 as it can get then PoE is your game. Characters builds are fully customizable and the game tries to stay similar to D2 in regard to it's itemization

>>376923119
>mention a game
>SHILL, SHILL, DEV, SHILL
Really, really actually fuck off. This meme is just so fucking cancerous and is somehow actually making the board even shittier.

>>376922720

In PoE it's speccing for life and nothing else.

>>376923254
t. anon

Diablo 3 is fun with friends.

>>376923140
You're just gonna die over and over and over and over at maps if you go non-meta

>>376917179
Looking for a video game? Diablo 3
Looking for a job that you pay to do? PoE

>>376923393
Name one activity that isn't fun with friends

>>376923531
PoE

>>376923474
If you're trash at videogames, sure.

>>376923575
aight
good shit

>>376923327
Again, you say that like it's different for any game ever. D2 was exactly the same. The only difference here is that the passive stats that were in your character menu are way more fleshed out now. In fact, D2 was a lot more rigid in how many builds were viable for each character because of how the different trees worked and the existence of synergistic effects. Like, good luck going anything but full lag with your necromancer or otherwise spewing bone spears everywhere, nobody ever uses curses ever unless they come as a bonus on equipment, etc.

>>376923585
I'm just stating facts, anon.

>>376923802
No, you're stating an opinion based on a misconception but are attempting to present it as an absolute fact.

>>376917179
unless you plan to play like an autist you'd probably be better off with d3

>>376923802
You're just stating facts that you're trash at videogames, senpai.

Never played PoE but my experience from D3 is

Start: Fun
Story/Leveling: Fun
Season Journey: Fun
Hardcore with no Haedrick's Gift: Maximum Fun
Rift Fishing: Not Fun
Bounty farming to reroll legendaries for ancients: Not Fun
Farming GRifts for gear: Not fun
Farming Torments for DBs: Not fun
End Game: NOT FUN

>>376923802

That's funny because IM stating the FACT that you don't need a meta build to clear 99% of game content.

>>376923965
shoould've quit while you were ahead

>>376918282
It'd be faster to just play the game than watch that bullshit.

Lord's Labyrinth is the most fun I've had in a lootathon game in a long time. Hardcore Chad obviously, softcore cucks go home.

PoE is the generic store brand version of Diablo.

Path of Exile

If you enjoyed the part where you had to jew your way into getting anything good in Diablo 2, play PoE.

Otherwise play Diablo 3.

>>376917179
Diablo 3 and PoE are both damn good, actually. If you consider yourself a fan of the genre, you should get both. They're like two new flavors of Diablo 2, each with it's own rewarding hardcore mode. You might eventually decide you prefer one over the other, but both games are worth every penny.

>>376924047
I started in Season 9, I quit after a month of play.
I started again in Season 10, I quit after 2 days of play.

I got it on sale for $10 so not too bad, but I feel like that time would have been better spent elsewhere.

>>376924207
Solo Self Found.

If you like content updates, build flexibility, lore that is not LMAO DEMONS, play PoE

If you like sucking Blizzard's decrepit jew dick, play Diablo 3

>>376920218
Watched some streams of it, the necro is literally worse than any other class simply because of how the game is built around class sets.

Other classes have sets with 7 pieces and use non-standard slots which allows flexibility. Necro has 3 6-piece sets which all use the same slots and Blizzard has stated they won't change this.

>>376924258
>They're like two new flavors of Diablo 2
Yeah
Diablo 3 is the Toddler version of D2
PoE is the Great Value version of D2

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>>376917179
Diablo 1 or 2. Thats your only options.

>>376918116
It's like a new Diablo 2 now. The game has been redesigned for the better and all of the things that were good about D2 have been added to D3.

>>376923901
Where do you think you are?

>>376924549
itemization still sucks senpai

>>376921880
D2 > D2

D2 > D2 LOD > D1 > PoE > D3

>>376924626
Shit. Whoops.

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>Corrupts your stone

Protip: D2 is outdated as fuck

What are you supposed to after finishing Hell anyway? Grind the Pit until your eyeballs fall out?

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>>376924665
I would go for:

D2 = D1> D2 LOD > PoE >>>> D3

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an appropriate sequel to diablo 1&2 fucking WHEN

give me more of that amazing atmosphere and fluid monster slaying instead of focusing on casuals or autism

I bet neither blizzard nor GGG tried to get matt uelmen on board before they started

>>376924920
D2 would be fine if I could bind click to move to scroll wheel or space bar.

>>376924804
I want to fuck that.

>>376923965
I would like to add that bounty farming is best with a team. Each person tries to clear their act first and the winners clean up the last act. It's a friendly competition that is just as much about movement speed as it is dps.

>>376924921
>D2 better than D2LOD
?????
I have actually never seen this opinion, and am legitimately curious as to why you think this, it does not make sense to me

>>376924921
But your image says Diablo 3 is the best...?

>>376925009
Sure if you haven't already plowed through everything the game has to offer like 99% people glorifying D2 in these threads.

PoE is carrying the torch.
D4 if it ever happens will be absolute garbage.

Play Diablo 3 if you want a thrill ride that ultimately feels like you wasted all the time you spent playing it. It's a massive kiddie pool filled with toys that you wade through looking for the deep end only to realize there isn't one.

Play Path of Exile if you want a deep and engaging game that will punish you for ignorance and on occasion punish you for no reason. It's an entire ocean filled with cool stuff but you have to know where to look because the majority of it is fucking boring water.

>>376923965
The best part of D3 is the 3 hours of gameplay you get while getting Haedrig's when you first hit 70 at the start of the season when gearing decisions kinda matter.

>>376924431
I was thinking cookies and cream and rockie road, but whatever. I know D2 was a great game, but c'mon. Nostalgia goggles.

>>376925102
aren't DHs just far and away the best at going fast?

>>376924989
>an appropriate sequel to diablo 1&2 fucking WHEN

valve will release their diablo-like game in 2018 and it will be the best game ever in the genre

they are about to test this in the dota client with a special mode for international this year.

I said way back in 2015 that valve will make a diablo game set in dota universe and i've been saying it repeatedly since then. Now they are alpha testing it in under the guise of a TI7 minigame.

>>376924665
Sorry, no, can't agree. That's your nostalgia speaking, there. D1 is still great to this day but is held back by too many limitations of older and earlier game design, and its scope is way too limited in general. PoE is significantly better than it by a huge margin. Admittedly D1's atmosphere is top notch, but atmosphere alone does not make a game.

D2 had some really convoluted bullshit at the end. The item crafting system via the horadric cube was worthless, EVERYONE had ALL the exact same inventory-cluttering charms, maybe more. Shit like Pandemonium or Uber Diablo was just ????.

Runewords were interesting. Too bad 99% of them were pure dogshit.

PoE's item crafting system is far better, its flask system is way better than the potion system of D2, the lore of the land is just as good (if a bit lacking in CGI cutscenes) and the voice acting is just as phenomenal. Its skill and passive stat systems are way more flexible and allow every character way more options to choose from (even if not all builds are created equal, unlike D2 it's a lot harder to end up with a completely broken build incapable of doing the majority of the content). So on and so forth. Hell, reliance on mules is reduced in the extreme.

PoE hasn't been good for a while now. The final nail in the coffin was the introduction of Ascendancy and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFAPw_F3jyg

They basically gave up.

>>376925286
Valve does not make video games.

>>376925286
you don't even have proof of this claim

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>>376924921

>D2 = D1> D2 LOD

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who /GRIM DAWN/ here

REAL NIGGA ROLL CALL

>>376925393
What's wrong with Ascendancy? or that trailer?

>>376925381
>poebabby mad someone likes the originator of the series better than lifeless imitation

>>376925286
>I said way back in 2015 that valve will make a diablo game set in dota universe and i've been saying it repeatedly since then
a diablo clone in the dota universe would be retarded though

the dota universe is literally just an excuse to put all the WC3 heroes into a new game

they have like 11 heroes who are THE STRONGEEST EVERR!!1 and can end the universe or some shit

>>376925150
well its a small better, like the difference between D2 and D2 LoD isn't that big compared to vs PoE or Vs D3.

The mainly, its about endgame and viability of your build. With LoD, you can use runewords, a ton of charms and synergies to become very powerful and make semi-broken builds, which is perfectly fine. However with "vanilla" D2 you have more variety of skills and end up using more of them, its not the same experience. Items are chosen differently since you're more reliant on rare and uniques.

Overall, the difference is of taste but both are good options.

>>376925163
what
Alien/D1 : All about that ambience
D2/Aliens: Some ambience, all action
D3/Alien: ???? And to be fair, Alien 3 is ok movie, but D3 is something that shouldn't have been named diablo.

>>376925276
Wizards, Barbs, and Crusaders are equally capable of blowing through hordes of enemies now. The Crusader specifically has a build that lets his mobility skills deal tremendous damage.

>>376925539
>small better
>The mainly
jesus I need some coffee

>>376925529
Nice memetext

>>376925286
Inb4 Half-Life 3 is the best D2 clone of all.

>>376924921
>D2 better than LOD

no

>>376924989
Then go for PoE then. In... a month or two, after the Fall of Oriath drops and they abolish the 3-difficulty system carried over from D2 for a 10-act system (the game is currently only 4 acts) with progression of the second set of five acts returning to areas visited in the first five to see how things have panned out for the characters and taking care of new problems and taking ultimately different paths to the end.

Like any game, the autism only really hits at the absolute end of the game. The ride there is still enjoyable.

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>>376917179
>diablo 3

>>376925538
>the dota universe is literally just an excuse to put all the WC3 heroes into a new game
>they have like 11 heroes who are THE STRONGEEST EVERR!!1 and can end the universe or some shit

The dota universe is extremely, extremely well written within the teeny bounds of character bios and item descriptions, and isn't like you are describing at all.

I have absolutely no doubt that they plan to flesh out the universe with other games in it. It is already happening, dota 2 is getting a diablo minigame in the next 2 weeks

I been telling you this is their next game, this is gonna be their next game. Diablo 3 sold over 30 million copies and was considered a game design failure by people in the know.

>>376925698
maybe if you purely play on bnet

>>376925524
I have almost 1000 hours. If I say the game is shit, then it is shit. Don't play it.

>>376925875
I have around 4000 hours into it since beta, and I say you are wrong.

>>376925529
>nostalgiafag mad that anyone could even attempt to compare a newer game to their rose-tinted memories

>>376925539
So you have literally no argument against Alien 3.

>>376925712
I play PoE, but it's still not all it could be

it looks cheap as fuck for one
>>376925793
the character bios are very well-written, but it doesn't feel like a cohesive universe at all

and even if it was, the world is still more cartoony than even diablo 3

>>376925875
Just because you're a masochist playing something you don't enjoy, or a stagnant fag that can't handle change, doesn't mean it's shit.

>>376924598
4chan
video game section

No one here actually plays games

>>376925393
that shit looks like a ripoff. how can it even compete w/ d3?

>>376926031
>the character bios are very well-written, but it doesn't feel like a cohesive universe at all

that's because you don't know every character bio and how they subtlely interact, there are tooooooooons of interactions between the characters factions and stuff but it isn't outright stated. you have to know everything and draw conclusions

>cartoony
not a criticism i care about, it's video games

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>>376925683
>HL3
it's over, anon

>>376925875
I think [insert feature] is shit because [insert reasoning]

Discussion 101, you can do it.

>>376926071
I exist and I've been here since my teens. I'm 27 now. We both know that a lot of the people here just yell about games as they recover from burnout from having played the game an hour before.

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>>376925875
>I have almost 1000 hours.
>tfw I I have almost 1000 hours EACH league
and to be fair, I still prefer D1/D2 but since I've played them nonstop since their release I needed a ''break'' so I've been playing poe for a few years now and just cant do it anymore.

I must have lowered my life expectancy by liek 10 years by almost never sleeping in high school thanks to D2 and uni thanks to poe

>>376925793
Enigma, KoTL, Chaos Knight, Io, Elder Titan, and I think Arc Warden can implode the universe anytime they wish

>>376917179
PoE is F2P, P2W oriental trash

D3 is a noob friendly, medicore as fuck content-less game

pick your poison

>>376926071
I do, you're just a faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMkiEx1mmg

>>376926241
So where exact;y on the spectrum have they diagnosed you?

>>376926151
>not a criticism i care about, it's video games
cool for you but if I wanted a cartoony diablo game I could just play d3

and sure, maybe we'll see if the dota universe is worth anything when they actually step off the map

I would make a new world though if I were to make a diablo clone

>>376925994
I kind of like Alien 3 even if most people don't, but I just happen to have that image and am way to lazy to find another D1>=D2 and D3 suck image.

>>376926241
RoS fixed it just like LOD fixed D2

>>376926243
No they can't. They are fundamentals, that doesn't mean they have control over the universe. Weaver does though, to a degree

>a game mythos shouldn't have powerful entities!!
okay.png

>>376926256
How is PoE even asian at all? There's like 0 asians in the game.

>>376926256
>PoE P2W
it has the best cash shop ever, cosmetics only

>>376926326
>diagnosed
There never was a need but I suspect your right to some extend

>>376926341
>cool for you but if I wanted a cartoony diablo game I could just play d3

a video game is defined by its graphical style, cool story

and here i thought all along that diablo 3 sucked because of its itemization and skill design

>>376926347
Oh ok, so you LITERALLY have no argument except to spam meme images other people made.

I accept your apology.

>>376917179
PoE is way better, if only trading wasn't so incredibly annoying it would be a fucking amazing game

>>376918750
PoE's endgame is pure meta.

>>376926430
it had issues with both

i like how you keep saying video game video game when video is literally one of two words in the term, and still act like visuals are irrelevant

>>376926256
>P2W
>PoE
Oh I'm havin a laff.
98% of the shop is completely cosmetic. Otherwise you're buying slots for characters, more more stash chests if you're a hoarder or want some semblance of organization.

>>376926302
>never actually plays PoE
really makes you think

>>376922870
underrated comment

>>376926530
all diablo clones endgame is pure meta

>>376926241
I don't recall posting this, but I must have. What's your best marathon on a D2 ladder without a break? Mine is 198 hours, almost made it to 200 but I think I was having a heart attack or something, my chest was really hot and there was a lot of pain, so I went and laid down for a couple hours before going back. Truly addicted gaming is also a great weight loss regimine, I lost 37 pounds in 3 months on the summer before my senior year because ladder season 3 started then.

>>376926348
HOW did it fix it? I keep hearing people say it fixed it, but never how. And yet I see people who go to play D3 as it exists now and they complain that the game just gives you ridiculously strong bullshit right at the start.

>>376917179
Why didn't they make Diablo like torchlight

>>376917179
Isn't poe free? Just try it

>>376926576
>and still act like visuals are irrelevant

they are irrelevant. could care less about factors that aren't gameplay anymore

>>376926615
he has max level HC character in the current league and waits for 3.0

>>376926741
That's the same thing LOD did. ROS is the exact same thing. Runewords::6piece sets

>>376926162
The main problem with the game is the f2p model. They added more and more shit, not fixing the old shit and the core design is also very flawed. They turned it into Diablo 3 where you can clear maps in mere seconds.

>>376926846
now this is autism

>>376926741
ros didnt fix it, it made it better

diablo 3s itemization and how weapon damage interacts with skill damage is fundamentally broekn and cannot/will not ever be fixed

however, it's still a way better game than poe, which is a sad, ugly, diablo 2 clone mishmash.

d3 is definitely worth playing for people who never played it

>>376926885
You say that like runewords or 6 piece sets were good.

"Oh, we're going to arbitrarily power lock you behind a bullshit trial and error system - go look at the wiki for all the only good shit!

You want full power from every item in your set? FUCK YOU! Gotta collect the whole fucking thing for the most bonuses! Fuck runewords on anything but weapons!"

>>376926241
Diablo 3 isn't bad. The itemization could be better but the end game is actually fun and friends make it great.

>>376926958
How, exactly, is it better than a game with great itemization, wide customization options, and a skill system that isn't fundamentally broken?

I get the feeling you haven't actually played PoE because PoE is actually a cohesive experience. It certainly takes a lot of cues from D2 but is hardly a clone in any but the most superficial of ways.

>>376917179
Only casual moron shitbabies would pick anything other than playing hardcore seasons in PoE

There is absolutely zero defense for playing D3 over it.

>>376927046
The only problem I had with sockets was that you couldn't remove what you put into them. If you accidentally dragged some shitty jewel or gem over an amazing base it was ruined, and god forbid if you accidentally mixed up the order on an expensive runeword, I ruined a Last Wish once and that was fucking annoying as shit.

>>376917179
Ugh why would you make this thread.
Literally no good comes out of this. PoE fags try and shill their game and Diablo fans try and defend their game from the PoE fags.
And then someone posts that outdated picture that compares the two games, then the Grim Dawn fags come in and try and shill their game.

This argument will never be settled.

>>376927175
>How, exactly, is it better than a game with

the fundamental gameplay is better at a basic level whereas poe is based on "stack regen so you stand in place using one skill infinitely" just like diablo 2

diablo 3s gameplay is really well crafted

poe is also graphically extremely ugly/awful/amateurish to look at

what if diablo in SPACE

>>376927305
hahahahahaaaaaahahaha

>>376927339
Nice argument.

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>>376927165
>friends make it great.

>>376927378
>implying someone who is so casual and retarded he prefers D3 over PoE is worth talking to

My sides

>>376926257
shut you're whore mouth

wanna make out?

>>376927292
>PoE fags try and shill their game and Diablo fans try and defend their game from the PoE fags.
Isn't it the exact opposite, though? At least in this thread. It seems like a bunch of people too lost in nostalgia to make objective assessments of something new, and are relentlessly shitting on it with baseless accusations as a result.

>>376927046
The 6 piece sets still work with other items using their lesser set bonuses. If you want the most out of your gear though, you have to give up some individual item bonuses to get the full 6. You might have a shitty roll on 1-2 pieces of the set but those can be improved.

>>376927329
Phantasy Star Online comes to mind. The original, not the shitfests that came after.

>>376917179
You can't play Diablo 3 without being connected to the internet.

>>376927590
Be honest, you didn't play Diablo 2 without LOD did you?

>>376927610
Or PoE.

How is this an argument in the current year, you third world piece of shit?

>>376927305
???
I've played through the three difficulties twice, two with builds that I am assured are extremely shit, and have had no reason to make a build to just stand in place forever. I make it a habit to dodge and reposition regularly and manage to get through the content just fine, even if not in the most efficient possible manner.

Also I don't remember Diablo 2 stacking regen. Maybe hammerdins but they were built on the idea of staggerlocking enemies with just this massive fucking spam of fuck you.

PoE looks like an accurate translation of the D2 aesthetic to 3D, to me, with a few additional touches to make it its own. It certainly looked odd at first but I very quickly grew comfortable with it.

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>>376927590

>>376927718
of course I did, by far the most innovative game in the genre day one

>>376927432
>haha you're not worth playing against so I concede

What a great strategy.

>>376927185
This is the problem with threads like these. People just come in and argue that "A is good, B sucks" or "B is good, A is shit" when most of the time they haven't played either. I argue that both games are good, they just appeal to different audiences.

>>376927894
nice crop faggot

>google poe gameplay
>walking slowly and mashing your one attack while standing still
>then getting oneshot out of nowhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ5pJQ1VSMo
great game shills

>>376927454
You are whore mouth.

Also, no way fag

>>376917179
neither. Clicky clicky games are terrible.

>>376927894
What the fuck? Did you leave room for 90 more Diablo games on purpose?

>>376927908
He isn't even the guy you were originally arguing with.

>>376927957
That's not helpful either. It's not wrong, but it's not helpful. Objective assessments CAN be made, but these people spend too much time wading in bullshit to give them even a second of actual thought or interpretation.

>>376928018
t. cherry picker

>>376928096
But
PoE has hotkey slots for multiple abilities, and will be getting more just to slap shit like auras, summons, or reserves in. The only clicky is your movement and picking up items.

>>376928018
Holy shit I didn't know it was that bad.

>>376927773
>u hab been B& frum de 80$ geam u bout because LOL we can dew it! Buy teh next geam in de zeriez chump!

Always online is a mistake

I tried so many times to play PoE but I get about halfway through the first area/chapter/act/whatever it's called and I get bored to fucking shit. I put a lot of hours into D3 but there's been too little content/too much solo grinding for me to enjoy it anymore.

>>376924921
alien 3 was a good movie
everything that followed is shit though

The most fun I had with PoE was uninstalling it

>>376928018
It's even worse nowadays. Power creep and bad balance has fucked this game.

Now everybody runs around instagibbing swathes of loot pinata enemies that don't even try to kill you until a lucky mob (that normally deals zero damage) gets its damage boosted through the roof by some random combination of bullshit and one shots you.

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>>376924989
one of the biggest problems with d3 is the music
without matt it just has no soul

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>>376918741
>1:22:21
>awhile
Anyway, Grim Dawn and Titan Quest are pretty good.

>>376928421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlFpGMkqjHA

>>376928703
That's PoE for ya

>>376928764
>walking fast and mashing your one attack while standing still
a bit better but eh

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>>376927957
Dude, no offense, but I live and breathe these games. I most likely have more time played in both of these games individually than 99% of /v/ does in both combined.

There is a reason HC in Diablo 3 is completely dead.
There is a reason no one who is serious about this genre plays it anymore.
There is a reason /vg/ doesn't even have a general for it anymore, because it's just THAT dead.
There is a reason all these people, even Alkaizer, switched to PoE.

PoE offers everything these people would want from a d2 successor. D3 does not. D3 is good for casuals, it's good for people who just want to play through the story once or twice and be done with it.
But for the real enthusiasts PoE is a better choice. It's not just a better choice, it's a choice so superior that even bothering to compare them is a waste of time.

It's okay if you're not serious about these games. It's okay if you're not good enough to do 36 challenges in a HC league. Just please don't talk big here. Go play your Diablo 3, do the campaign a few times and be happy. The real enthusiasts and hardcore players are all over at PoE though - it's not even up for debate.

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>>376928451
Global rule 3.

Diablo 3.

PoE has garbage combat and somehow manages to have a worse story than Diablo 3.

PoE revolves around spamming one skill. Diablo 3 actually makes you utilize various skills not just building around one like in PoE.

All the depth in PoE lies behind building a build for one shitty meta skill and that's it. The ebin skill tree is an illusion of depth.

Also, the enemy variety in Path of Exile is fucking GARBAGE. You fight generic zombies for most of the game. Acts 1 and 2 are complete garbage.

The game doesn't even have real classes since you can apply any skill to any "class". It's fucking pathetic.

Diabros, what happened to our general?

>>376928764
Still looks boring.

>>376929092
blah blah blah
>>376928764
>>376928018
is all anyone needs to see

if you "live and breathe" these games that means you obsess over them and PoE provides you with more shit to obsess over. The end.

For a normal, more neurotypical person, D3 is just simply a better game with better, more fun, far far more active gameplay.

>>376929150
Global rule 2

>>376929238
Yes, D3 is good for people who just want to spend a few hours and have a decent story to play through.

That's about the only time D3 would be the better choice.

And trust me, I played D3 long enough. I gave it chance after chance, but its seasons are just worthless. They do nothing new.

>>376925286
>>376925538
>>376925793
>The dota universe is extremely, extremely well written within the teeny bounds of character bios and item descriptions, and isn't like you are describing at all.

the dota universe is fucking fanfiction tier retardation that some valve intern pulled out of his ass after smoking too much weed.

>>376929026
He's got like two abilities he uses actively and 2-3 he has on passively, as well as 1-2 utility skills like an arrow that teleports you and leaves behind a short-lived clone that takes some heat and also shoots on its own as well.

It's not like the genre has ever really had anything different however. If you ever went to Hell in D2 you were looking at gameplay exactly like this, just without the nuance and diversity and spending slightly more time to kill trash mobs that only exist to slow you down.

>>376929092
I think poe is boring but this is objectively true

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>>376929092
What's your take on Grim Dawn?

>>376929385
That's why the genre sucks and why it was better off being outright dungeon crawlers like D1, oddball games like Nox, or outright RPGs like DD.

>>376929385
>It's not like the genre has ever really had anything different however

except diablo 3 which constantly forces you to use movement and defensive skills nonstop and to position yourself nonstop because enemies have positioning based properties

that's exactly why poe is bad and diablo 3 is generally good

gameplay from the past (already done better in d2 than poe could ever do) vs gameplay from the present

>>376929665
You don't even know shit about PoE

Play it, get to level 80, then post again. Thanks. Spare us the idiocy.

>>376929763
or i could not play it and watch videos of people at level 8 running around using 1-2 skills just like diablo 2

in diablo 3 you use all your skills every time they are off cooldown and you are always moving. not arbitrarily moving, moving to dodge certain shit or avoid being cut off from your party

poe is simply gameplay from the past and it appeals to people who are interested in the "searching 1000 hours to find +1 more damage for my build" not "playing a fun video game" aspect

>>376929892
Jesus, please stop posting. Just go play your baby diablo 3 and shut the fuck up.
I actively lose brain cells reading your inane uneducated garbage.

>>376929180
>PoE revolves around spamming one skill
I honestly doubt any decent build in D3 does it any differently. Like any game in this genre, you're going to be superpowering one primary skill and having a couple of auxiliary skills, maybe auras or mobility or a single-target high DPS to complement the wide-area trash clearer.

You don't have to adhere to the meta. There's dozens of channels out there that exist solely for the specific purpose of taking an unassuming or lacklustre ability and buffing it through the roof to become viable, if not THEBEST™.

Also, your last statement is entirely false. Ascendancy classes are passive abilities that are locked to one single class, and can strongly affect how potent a particular playstyle with. A Ranger will never be as strong at utilizing totems as a Zealot will be, because of their differences in class. In addition, while you can TECHNICALLY reach any node on the passive tree, it's a poor idea to reach too far out for certain nodes, meaning that while you can TECHNICALLY use any weapon or ability gem, again you sacrifice a lot in trying to force a character to use something they're inherently shit at. But you can do it, and that is the important thing. Anyone can learn anything, but will never be able to specialize the same way that other classes can.

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Does PoE let you fight enemies with 200 trillion health?

Didn't think so.

>>376917179
Poe Poe Poe
no question

>>376920589
I just killed shaper with a Nuro's Harp ice shot totem Scion. Meta be damned

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>>376929968
>p-please stop bullying me

>>376929994
I don't even like D3 and you're horribly wrong.

>>376930062
Jesus Christ
what they were thinking

Gee I wonder what kind of build I should play in Diablo 3?
Build #1, Build #2 or Build #3 that each class has?

The game already decides everything for you, there is nothing amazing you can do, nothing unique, no real variety.

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>>376930062
>4526M damage

>>376929968
not an argument

>>376917179
D3 hasnt added anything meaningful in years. meanwhile you can anticipate a big change in PoE every 3 months maximum.

>>376930347
Gee I wonder what kind of build I should play in Path of Exile?
Build #1, Build #2 or Build #3 that each class has?

The game already decides everything for you, there is nothing amazing you can do, nothing unique, no real variety.

>>376930496
(You)

>>376930234
they weren't. it reminds me of the time players had to turn off area damage b/c it would lag the entire map.

>>376929665
>except diablo 3 which constantly forces you to use movement and defensive skills nonstop and to position yourself nonstop because enemies have positioning based properties
Are you seriously attempting to imply that PoE doesn't do this? Because that's blatantly false. You cannot simply stand still in PoE unless you're one very specific class with one very specific build geared very specifically for being capable of standing still - other classes will range from less effective at doing that and being forced to move around, or completely incapable of it and having to keep on the move constantly. You WILL die if you don't move as a witch.

Judging the game based on the most basic hordes it throws at you is beyond stupid. Not even D2 had every single enemy be something you had to puzzle against. Like PoE, it was generally rare or unique enemies that gave you the most trouble, especially if they resisted the element you specialized in.

>>376929892
>level 8
Oh, so you actually are a retard. Good to know, then.

>>376929092
>There is a reason
>There is a reason
>There is a reason
>There is a reason

It's easy to say BS like that and then go "even bothering to compare them is a waste of time."

>>376930202
How, exactly, am I wrong?

>>376930619
If you have played both games (and I don't mean play to level 10 or for one hour) and you still don't understand how PoE is infinitely superior to Diablo 3, then you cannot be helped.

Just go stick to your casual Diablo then, let the actual big boys handle HC seasons in PoE.

>>376930496
Are you retarded? I think you mixed up D3 and PoE

Poe gives you freedom to put any gem combination you want together to literally CREATE your own skill

Meanwhile in Diablo 3 they make it basically mandatory to wear a set that gives you 1 build option. not to mention they literally HAND the set to you after some mediocre challenges.

Plus if you think builds are related to class at all in PoE you haven't even played the game.

>>376930137
nice sc build that has a 20 minute kill time

You know a game is beyond dead when it doesn't even have a thread on /vg/ anymore.

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>>376930062

I knew things were bad in D3

But I didn't know modern Blizzard was THIS retarded.

In Diablo 3 might as well be called Power Leveling: The Game. You literally spend all your time online playing with people doing runs that are way too easy for their gear, blasting through rifts with no challenge whatsoever so that one day you can do that too.

Also, the power creep is ridiculous. Because legendaries and sets which were at one time amazingly rare treasures to find are now given out like candy people can essentially spam their abilities non-stop without much regard for cooldowns or resource. The game is now a chaotic mess where you can barely even see whats going on half the time.

Diablo 3 is a shit show which nobody plays anymore for good reason.

>>376930759
don't reply to him, when blizzdrones get upset they just copy all the criticisms for their game and change all instances of "diablo 3" to "diablo 2" or "poe"

>PoE adding cool as shit new seasons and patches all the fucking time, so much content coming every few weeks
>D3 has added what exactly in the past 2 years?
Every D3 season is the same lame shit too. They do fuck all with that game. It could be better than it is, but it's so fucking boring holy shit.

>>376930759
you can make any build you want, getting to the endgame with that build is anothing thing.

>>376930874
thanks, sorry i fell for the bait desu

>>376930852
It's not that different from a /players 8 boss fight in D2.

>>376928451
Whats your argument?
You cant get banned from Diablo unless you make it VERY obvious that you cheat/bot.
Are you mentally handicapped or something?
Maybe PoE really is the game for you then

>>376930759
>Plus if you think builds are related to class at all in PoE you haven't even played the game.
Well, that's not entirely correct. A Zealot will never be able to ascend to a Pathfinder or Deadeye. The game is a lot less rigid, but you'd still be a fool to try and build a Witch around using skills and abilities that the Duelist specializes in from day one.

>>376930753
You see the problem is that you still didn't come up with a single reason to backup your statements. You just keep repeating that "big boy" bullshit and hoping that nobody notices that it's just a completely empty argument.

What's the most fun build you guys ever played in PoE?

For me it was my double conversion ice -> fire -> chaos ice trapper shadow with two consuming dark daggers before they got nerfed.
The skill is satisfying as shit. Ice Trap is still playable but the full chaos conversion doesn't really work anymore.

I also always enjoy good cyclone builds.

https://youtu.be/OP8rqtOKrwE?list=PLIfdb2Vlbf0TU0Dma9tSRiDCDp7gRYg38&t=272
https://youtu.be/DNF_OfLo9h4?t=584

I think blizzard fucked up in diablo 3 with the sound effects
it's not a major fuckup like with the music, but if you close your eyes and listen diablo 2 still sounds better somehow, but I can't put my finger on why (except maybe nostalgia)

>>376930797
It's a HC character, but it did take 20 mins, was my first shaper kill

>>376930971
Of course some skills are going to be weaker than others, but even now in PoE people find combinations of skills that are absolutely game breaking that nobody had thought of before. unpopular builds can become popular and strong if someone puts enough thought into them

That being said of course some skills arent well balanced right now. they need to be fixed.

Time and time again GGG has shown they can change things that are overpowered and underpowered. Something that Blizzard is unwilling to do

>>376931101

Diablo nigger mode had like 1 million hp, maybe not even that.

Not exactly comparable.

>>376917179
>muh mash the same ability over and over, look at me i play POE i am so hardcore xD

>>376931263
Might sound completely bullshit as it's normally a very boring build, but I made a tweaked SRS build this league and it was fun as shit. Too bad it's getting a massive nerfbat in 3.0, it relies mainly on poison.

>>376931196
Every class offers their own set of bonuses man.

Of course the mainly magic based class cant do purely str based builds and whatnot, but that doesn't mean witches haven't had melee builds in the past.

what they are saying is that each class is deadlocked into a set of builds which is entirely untrue

>>376922650
So you're admitting you're a retard?

>all these new players thinking PoE has """"build diversity""" and a massive skill tree

The skill tree literally comes down to min-maxing your tiny stat points to travel to the standard damage wheels you pick on every build and taking the keystone you get

Builds have been limited to classes since the introduction of Ascendancy. Sure, you can create an explosive arrow champion, but why do that now when EA elementalist is 10x better.

>>376931503
Nah I believe you, I really enjoy SRS too. With the right skills and nodes you go fucking blazing fast with it, it's pretty great.

I wish they gave SRS a good cosmetic though, screw those little skulls.

>>376917179
Are you:
a normie with a short attention span? play Diablo 3
an autistic minmaxer? play Path of Exile

>>376917179
PoE is the best game in this genre, D3 is pretty much an abandoned mess with 1 patch a year

>>376931269
Hits in diablo 2 sound satisfying. even from level 1 you are hacking into zombies and you can HEAR the whack and it's cool. in diablo 3 nothing sounds strong or meaty, thus being less entertaining to do.

>>376931263
Probably trying to specialize in freezing EVERYTHING as a ranger with ice shot, herald of ice, reaching super far for a fucktonne of chance to freeze or chance to chill nodes in my very first character.

It was horrible, but it was super fun to try and make it work regardless, and I did eventually get to a somewhat respectable point where I could do all the content, but watching someone else just immediately annihilate everything in a quarter of the time it took me was a little disheartening - it was only the fact that I made a build without looking at any sort of guide, something which was totally a foreign concept to me when I was playing D2, and basically slapped it together with no fucking clue as to efficiency in node placement or modifier gems, and felt proud that I actually took it to the end of the game without relying too much on other players to help me out, that really made it special.

>>376931652
Pretty much
D3 is worth a playthrough or two with a class you like, but if you're actually serious about this genre and type of game beyond "I want to play the story" then go PoE all the way.
Go HC seasons and never look back.

>>376931335

I haven't played in a while, but GGG's balancing pattern tends to be nerfing OP skills to the ground and introduce new OP skills.

>>376931591
I dont think anyone has even mentioned the "Giant skill tree"

>>376931672
yeah, there's definitely more bass on everything in diablo 2, and it might just be the sound mixing for the video but everything sounds much more up in your face in d2, like your ears are positioned where they are on your character, instead of where the camera is, like in D3

this might be the most inane nitpick ever but I think the fucking chikchikchik attack noise in diablo 3 half ruined the game for me

>>376931335
>s-sometimes they change 1 of the 3 viable builds for another!

>>376931834
That is true actually now that i look back at things. they definitely need to work on that.

I think they should work on making other builds a little stronger and nerfing the OP build a little, but keeping it viable. because right now they just fucking destroy some abilities or unique items.

>>376931591
Just because the latter is 10x better doesn't make the former any less fun if it can still do all the same content, just a little slower. That's the important thing to take note of here. Unlike some other games in the genre which can completely fuck you if you don't do the best possible builds period for any given class, there's enough wiggle room to make anything "viable enough to work, even if it's not as good as others".

>>376931984
sometimes they change 1 of the many viable builds making them weaker.

I know it might be hard to understand for someone who plays the same diablo every season with no changes whatsoever. but yeah, changes are a thing.

>>376931946
>this might be the most inane nitpick ever but I think the fucking chikchikchik attack noise in diablo 3 half ruined the game for me
If you ever use the normal attack after first 5 minutes of D3 you are doing something wrong.

>>376931263

Most melee builds are fun to me.

Even entry level stuff like Earthquake.

>>376932204
it was on stuff like whirlwind too

>>376932251
Earthquake is one of the least melee melee skills though to be fair

Is it possible to currently play PoE without being a minmaxing autist?

Last I remember they added a new act with Kaum and D'alesso or whatever, and then there was a whole lot of buttfuck after the cannon fired.

I usually breezed through everything with a necromancer/SRS witch, but I got shat on so hard by that act I quit the game because it wasn't fun anymore.

>>376932412
It absolutely is. Also if you last remember Kaom and Daresso then damn, you have a lot to catch up on, the game has gotten a shit ton of stuff since.

Meta builds are only meta because they can clear endgame maps faster, but unless you're the kind of person that pushes for ladder every season you really won't care about that.

And even if you cared, trust me, you won't beat some of the top autists the game has in terms of playing 24/7

>>376927329
I think someone made this recently but it totally tanked
I think it's a PS4 game?

>>376920589
That's not even a little true

>>376923474
Lmao you're fuckibg retarded

>>376932875
You know he is because he said "over and over", revealing that he is a softcore baby

>>376932412
Well you can't have absolutely 0 thought in your builds. You can't just slap whatever on and call it a day. Even for me over up here ( >>376931820 ) you gotta pick a theme and have some level of consistency. Do you HAVE to minmax? No. But just a little minmaxing goes a long way if you spend a little while looking at what you want to do and coming up with a game plan before you settle in for the ride.

>>376932412

Usually I would say that you don't need to minmax now nor did you ever have to in the past.

But if you seriously could not clear normal with an afk build then I'm not so sure. You were clearly doing something VERY wrong.

>>376932412
I mean, I play hc ssf and am undeniably shit at the game, I've never really made it past mid-tier maps. My builds are are usually a bit 'loose' and my gear is never optimal.

It depends on what you find fun and how ok you are with potentially not seeing the highest lvl end game shit.

PoE definitely does reward meticulous autism though.

PoE for theoryshitting builds
D3 for silky smooth gaempley

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D3 is a fun game for levelling, but a lot of my friends who play it more seriously confuse me.
>Use a gem of ease to 1 shot everyone and reach max level quickly
>Never play barb they suck compared to almost anyone else
>Why are you doing bounties, just run GR for hours until you get everything
I don't know why Diablo players are so focused on making the game way too formulaic and boring. Pretty excited for the Necromancer, I needed a new class.

>>376933765
Yeah I'd be excited too if I finally got a patch with new content after some years

>>376933956
Well, it's not like I play diablo constantly. Usually play it for maybe a month or two after each season, maybe when I am bored.

>>376933765
do GRs even have loot drops? pretty sure they're only for levelling gems

>>376934056
The final boss drops good stuff, my friends rely on those for loot drops, along with normal rifts of course. They only do rifts. I fucking hate rifts.

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>>376930062
>cookie-clicker tier numbers
god damn, son

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How is Diablo 3 nowadays? The clickfest in Overwatch event in Heroes of the Storm made me want to play this genre again.
I avoided D3 like a plague when it was released, but I wonder if it is on a "playable" state now, with the expansion and no more marketplace. Crusader looks neat but I can't try it out on Starter/demo version. I got bored of D2 and I don't really like the other modern alternatives (PoE, TL2, TQ, etc) for various reasons. I could go back to some other old favorite (like SS2 and PSO1) but I wanted to try something new this time around.

Do you want to play a game with good combat?
>Play D3

Do you want to have more than 2 viable builds for end game?
Do you want to theorycraft?
>Play PoE

>>376917179

can you imagine playing path of exile in first person view with full mouse aiming?

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>all of these blizzdrones shilling diablo 3
but path of exile is actually good compared to d3, what the fuck is wrong with you people

>>376917179
I don't understand, why not both?

>>376917179
grim dawn

>>376934995
It's actually very fun but limited at mid-top end game. Solo play is basically shit on, so your best bet is to run 4 man groups. Group meta has the exact same lame 3 classes 99% of the time while chars like Crusader are never used.

Some classes have only 1 viable build for high solo play, others have up to 3-4. Same lame grind for paragon levels and gems each season. Same exact gear season in season out until blizzard decides to buff some gay set once in a blue moon.

Tl;dr, it's fun if you binge play it one month out of a year.

>>376928579
your opinion is wrong

>>376918572
The only good answer.

>>376933171

>nor did you ever have to in the past

It's better now, but in the past if you are not using an FOTM build the game pretty much ends at Act 3 merciless.

Grim Dawn

>>376924415
Necro has 3 elements meaning it gets the most out of the best ring in the game. Let the turbomax autists get their hands on it and it'll be strong as fuck

>>376917179
Say what you want about PoE, it can never be as bad as D3.

>>376935346
/v/ is a lot more casual than many people think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1TPjU0vpJA

>>376930062
This reminds me of the gear crunch in WoW because of the crazy high stat inflation. Damage numbers were absurd.

>>376918256
This fair abd unbiased.

>>376935881
Combat is boring
Items are boring (just stat boosts and sockets? lame)
Story is boring
Movement skills blow, boring
Characters are boring
World is boring

PoE is exactly what I would expect from a free game.

>>376917179
Diablo 3 is a mediocre ARPG but an awfully terrible Diablo game.

Path of Exile to me is like if Titan Quest, Throne of Darkness and FF7 had a baby

>>376935961
Wait. He plays Diablo 3 and is complaining that PoE is too easy? Am I hearing that right?

>>376929994
D3 without a doubt uses all of your abilities on most builds. The reason I can't get behind PoE is because everyone I look at a build that looks cool it turns out it's on attack and one movement skill.

>>376929763
>every single viable PoE build uses one attack and one movement skill

>>376930496
>Acting like PoE is any different if you actually wanna do anything in end game

>>376931867
So you haven't read the thread?

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>>376935961
>poe is too easy
>dies to in non-uber lab

>d3 has no content!!

meanwhile you can beat all the 'content' poe has in the first few days of a new character

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>>376935528
>Some classes have only 1 viable build for high solo play, others have up to 3-4
I guess I will do a bit more research before jumping in, need to check which DEUS VULT build looks fun and is usable in endgame. I only have one friend that plays it every now and then, I'm not a big fan of playing this kind of genre with randoms.
I guess I can handle repetitive seasons for a while, it's not like PSO ever delivers new things now that the game is dead. Thanks for the input.

>>376937027
it's not like you commit to a build in D3

you can switch out anything at any time

>>376936476
I very strongly doubt that D3 uses "all of your abilities on most builds" unless:

A) there's some manner of synergy system like D2 for which you won't even be using most of the abilities you put levels into, or
B) Every character has just such an abysmally small selection of abilities, period, that it's really fucking boring due to how few permutations any given character can have to play with

Any ARPG - and I strongly doubt D3 is any exception to this at all unless all of the abilities are so broken that rather than it being a matter of using all of your abilities, that you simply can use any ability period and it doesn't really matter what you do you're still gonna succeed - is going to revolve around similar gameplay. You're going to have an ability for single target damage, an ability for wide area damage to clear out trash mooks or get SOMETHING on someone zippy, you're going to have a movement ability or maybe even two, you're probably either going to have something to buff you or something to debuff them, you're probably going to have something auxiliary on the side in the off moments.

It's going to LOOK like it's just one attack and movement skill 80% of the time, but due to how the game works that just isn't going to happen.

The value of PoE is that it lets you customize to a ridiculous degree, a feature which is surprisingly nonstandard for ARPGs. Got an AoE curse ability which makes enemies more susceptible to ice damage? You can link it to a Totem Support Gem and summon a turret that spams that curse directly so you don't have to, you can link it to an On Hit Trigger Support Gem so that any active-use ability you directly link it to will apply that curse on enemies it hits, or you can do that with an offensive totem, you can link it to an Aura Support Gem so that you reserve a portion of your mana to make the curse a passive AoE effect in your immediate area, etc.

>>376923327
life is pretty much useless right now, if you want to facetank endgame you needs fuckloads of ES instead

this whole "path of lifenodes" meme is solely based on "HC is the only way to play" shitposters.

I just got my first character to maps with <3k life and fuckloads of life/mana leech, build is a 2handed slayer with 90% phys to cold conversion, works with most any melee skill, but i've mainly been using glacial hammer/flicker strike/cyclone

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>yfw Diablo 4 announced

>>376923482

>Looking for a job that you pay to do? PoE
>PoE is free

what did he mean by this?

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>>376938523

Ive been tried to get into titan quest because I skipped it back then, but so far it's very slow, basic attack click boring mobs, I have a few skills that dont do much

does the game pick up soon? I dont mind grinding or slow games but I need engaging gameplay

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>>376938523
maybe it'll be good this time

>>376925712
from what i've read acts 6-10 will essentially be merciless, complete with chaos/ele resists

i wish they'd rework ele resist

>>376938273
You have 6 ability slots in D3 and you're guaranteed using all of them.

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>>376938523

>>376926347
alien 3 director's cut is the best alien movie

>>376939083
>i wish they'd rework ele resist
they did. They had a 2 massive page post about it.

Bosses will not have resists and will be affected by everything except freeze(will be slowed instead of frozen as that would be too op)

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>>376939146
What do you see at the bottom right there?

8 ability slots. You may not be using every single one at every single moment in time, but they all have a purpose.

>>376929350
>Yes, D3 is good for people who just want to spend a few hours and have a decent story to play through.
>That's about the only time D3 would be the better choice.

D3 also provides a bit more involved combat and better game feel overall. PoE is on a much lower level of overall production quality.
still, for anybody looking for complexity and depth in a game, PoE beats D3 by a mile. not even close.

>>376939227
i mean resists on players
stacking % resists on gear and then having to stack more in higher difficulties is boring

the resist changes for bosses are fantastic cause freeze builds are my favorite and the immunity makes me basically useless