When does it get "good"

anon the game is around 70 hours long. Did you even get to the tutorial fight?

>>376902536
P4 never gets good. It stays average throughout but is pretty addictive

P3: 7/10.
P4: 6.5/10.
P5: 9.5/10

If you don't already have a hard-on for Chie, then you must be playing it wrong.

>>376902632
Yes. Like an hour in. I'm beginning to think I was tricked.
>>376902664
So it's just 67 more hours of "press x to hear the next line of dialogue"?

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>>376902632
>70 hours in
>only just unlocked the last dungeon
>playing Golden so there's even more after that
>picked hard so I just end up grinding more and narrowly scraping the bosses that take an hour to do

>>376902735
I did, but then I listened to a podcast with the lady that does her voice.
>bonernotfound.jpg

>>376902664
P1: 10/10
P2IS: 8/10
P2EP: 9/10

Fags who don't rate the whole series need to be shot dead.

>"but the early games are bad" meme
That because you didn't play them stupid faggot. P1 is better than P4. Faggots who insist that the first two games are bad and that people shouldn't bother with them can be fixed with a bullet. Even SMTfags rate 1 and 2.

It's half visual novel/half jrpg. If you hate that you're gonna have a bad time.

>>376902827
>only just unlocked the last dungeon
>playing Golden so there's even more after that
which "last"dungeon? The actual last dungeon happens a day before you move back to the city so you can't do anything after it.

>>376902959
Adachi's unless there's another after that one.
>inb4 OP reads the spoiler and ruins everything.

>>376903115
if you put up with Marie's bullshit, there are two after that

>>376903115
That's not the final dungeon even in vanilla P4. If you maxed Marie's social link you get an extra dungeon between Adachi's and the final one, that's the one that's exclusive to Golden.

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>>376903149
>>376903179
Oh, that's neat. Thanks for the tip.

>>376902810
No, that's just like the first 3-4 hours of the game, it opens up after that.

>>376902903
Sorry grandpa, P1, 2IS and 2EP are bad. ESPECIALLY the latter two which are utter trash because their gameplay is shit, desu P1 is still fine.

Today you bash games which have shit gameplay but are all about the "narrative experience" so why the fuck do you give the P2 duology a free pass?
A game should primarily be judged by its GAMEPLAY and P2 fails in that regard. Oh sure the story is cool, yay, too bad it's an absolute fucking slog. There are other JRPGs where the gameplay is nothing special but at least it isn't outright bad like EarthBound (which is quite fun to play), but in P2 you are FIGHTING against the gameplay for a chance at having fun.

P5 >>>> P3 > P4 >>>> P1 >> P2

>>376902903
P1 is horrible though. Meme all you want, but combat system is boring as fuck. Characters also aren't far better than P4 cast. And random encounter rate is insane.

P2 is best one. Not best gameplay, but it's playable and enjoyable. Characters, story and atmosphere are aeons above other entries though.

>>376902536
>I HAVE ADHD
>I PLAY JRPG
>WHEN DO I GET TO SHOOT AND MAIM THINGS WITH GUNS?!
>I NEED ADDAREL AND MY SPINNER TOY BUBUBUB
Jesus dude, just play something more akin to your likings. Is a JRPG that is 60+ hours long with focus on reading and turn-based grinding. You can´t be this retarded can you?

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Can't get my mind out of those memories
Now time to tell them "don't take my dream"

>>376902536
The first few hours of every Persona game (and 90% of jrpgs in general) are slow as fuck for the first few hours.

The games are good, just grind out the first few hours and it'll open up.

>>376902810
>Like 1 hour in
Dumbass, just keep playing

>>376902536
>Two hours in

Nigger most JRPGs don't pick up for about five hours.

Persona 5 takes about six hours before the game opens up.

Even muh sacred FFVII and other highly acclaimed titles handhold you for the first ten or so hours.

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>>376902536
>it gets good 5 hours in

every time

why can SMT drop you in on the action within the first 30 minutes but not Persona?

>>376904170
Heaven is the peak for this game

>>376906169
just like Casino is the peak for P5

>>376903630
This so much. Narrative games are seen as trash but shit like DoD are given a free pass because muh wacky story haha.
Come on.

>>376905965
>why can SMT drop you in on the action within the first 30 minutes but not Persona?

P5 throws you into an escape scene and battle right off the bat.

>>376906287
literally everyone thinks DoD is hot garbage aside from the wacky story haha

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With the release of P5, Persona 4 is going to be criticized more and more on places like /v/ and YouTube. We're eventually going to reach Sonic-level opinion reversal.Trust me, within a year, "Persona 4 was never good" is going to become a meme. At least 70% of this board will believe it, if not more. People who argue that it had lovable characters and an interesting story will be shot down as waifu-bait fags.

Persona 5 has become too big to meaningfully criticize, and P4 fags are going to feel it the hardest.

>>376903630
I'm gonna watch P1 and P2 on youtube and then start playing P3 haha

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>>376907423
This happens with any media in installments.

I will unironically defend 4 no matter what transpires. I can't speak for Golden, but vanilla is great with the sole exception of Teddie.

>>376905965
Persona 5 does though. You start off in media res, and then you get to Kamoshida's palace literally the first day of school.

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>>376903149
Assumin he is playing golden and not the orginal. I did my first playthrough to true wnding this year and wondered who the fuck marie was that everyone mentioned. I thought it was just a make over Naoto.

>>376907423
>At least 70% of this board will believe it, if not more. People who argue that it had lovable characters and an interesting story will be shot down as waifu-bait fags.
This happened before Persona 5 was even announced my dude.

>>376908102
anon, he said in the first post that he's playing Golden

>>376905965
We're cool and different.

>>376908194
Im still drunk i think i saw pendulum. It was awesome.

Game is no good. Played up to the black ball final guy.
Only thing that kept me going was the solution to the whole mystery shit, and that was extremely anticlimatic and stupid.

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>>376902903
This pattern was true until P5 turned out better and more complex than P4.

P1 is archaic and only worth playing to see the start of the series.

P2 is like P1 but better in every way

P3 is a radical paradigm shift that modernized the series and brought in its first wave of newfags

P4 is a step down in every quality from P3, but is still not bad yet.

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I know this is a P4 thread but
>P3 hermit boss
>enemy starts charging
>oh shit.jpg
>use a magic mirror
>realize I have a persona with elec break
>boss just zaps itself to death

>>376908660
>P4 is a step down in every quality from P3, but is still not bad yet.
Except
>Social Link quality
>Difficulty range
>Character interaction
>Gameplay variety
>Pacing
>Extra content (Marie isn't at least The Fucking Answer.)
You know, the actual important things beyond thinking about death= deep , the last week of the game, and artificial challenge"

>>376908932
>(Marie isn't at least The Fucking Answer.)
yeah, she's worse
>Social Link quality
that's one thing I can agree with 100%, Social Links in P3 were dogshit and I don't understand how anyone can claim otherwise. Sure there were some interesting ones like Akinari or Tanaka but most of them were awful and forgettable.

also as a side note,
>Character interaction
I've actually seen people complain, here and on other sites, that characters in P5 don't have as much chemistry and events are boring compared to P4's, so I guess it has that.

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>>376908932
>S.Link Quality

Moon, Magician, and Fortune in P3 are dog shit but every other one is better than any P4 S.Link, especially Sun, Hanged, Hierophant, and Empress.

>Difficulty Range

What is this meme? Do you mean difficulty curve? P3 is still better than P4 for that, too. After Contrarian King there's no real challenge in P4 until the first false final boss.

>Character Interaction

kek. Have you ever actually talked to the NPCs in P3? It even has hidden, obscure easter egg cutscenes for people who routinely talk with their partymates (Chidori revival, etc.)

>Gameplay variety

Do the minigames in P4 really matter that much? Who ever said "You know, this game is great, but it could use a Monster Hunter fishing minigame."

>Pacing

Both are slogs in places, but P3 becomes a slog at a thematically appropriate time (Nov/Dec), while P4 is a brutal 2 hour slog up front, then meanders until October.

>Extra content

Adachi's S.Link is the only non-fusion related thing added in P4G that's actually good.

>>376908932
>the actual important things
You mean like how Persona 4 has the least skill types of any SMT game because it took the three different physical skill types in Persona 3 and simplified it to a single skill type? Yeah, great improvement.

>>376903630
I'm playing p1 right now and it's great. It's a lot more unconventional than the later ones and better paced.

>>376908932
You have 10 seconds to name a social link character from Persona 4 (not Golden) that is not Dojima, Nanako, Margaret, or part of the investigation team without using google.

>>376908660
>P2 is like P1 but better in every way
When will this meme stop,P2 gameplay is completely shit and random encounters made it a chore

>P4 is a step down in every quality from P3, but is still not bad yet.
I'm playing this shit right now and that's untrue,it's very mediocre though

>>376908932
>Social Link quality
>Character interaction
>Pacing
>Better than P3
I disagree,I'm at Naoto's dungeon and I can't say they're better than P3's

>>376909873
Ai Ebihara

Who is the best minor S.Link in the game because she's like a leftover P3 S.Link with her own personality, goals, and a character arc.

>>376903896
>>376908660
>P2
>good

Stop trying to get hipster cred by pretending that garbage was good. It was an absolute chore to get through. I had to force myself to beat the game, the characters and story were just as bland and stupid as the others. The only difference is, the game is less popular so the contrarians have to overrate it. I'm tired of this shit.

>>376909873
Naoki, Shu, Hisano, Sayoko, Ayane, Yumi, Daisuke, Kou, Eri
now who was the Star, Fortune, Emperor, Temprance in P3. No looking it up.

>>376902536
It's shit, P5 is better but it's still 7/10 at best.
Atlus should just make dungeon crawlers like EO or SMT SJ, that's by far their best games, it's no wonder PersonaQ is their best Persona game to date.

>>376902536
>plays a game that's literally half a visual novel/dating sim
>WOOOW WHY SO MUCH TALKING

maybe check the genre before you start up the kinda game you're not into next time OP?

>>376910112
Bebé, Hidetoshi, and Mamoru I remember.

Fortune is so shit and so forgettable I actually don't remember. Keiji or some shit? P3's Fortune is the second worst S.Link in the series, only better than P3's Moon. The other ones you mentioned are fine, though.

>>376909873
>You have 10 seconds to name a character
>you can't choose 80% of the games characters though

Now that's fucking retarded

>>376910112
Mamoru, Keisuke, Hidetoshi, Bunkichi and Mitsuko

:^)

>>376910569
>Bunkichi and Mitsuko
>Temperance

They're Hierophant.

Bébé is Temperance.

>>376910569
Oh whoops, mixed up Temperance and Hierophant. Temperance was Bebe.

>>376908082
Haha, holy shit. I think Persona 5 is a good game but it basically takes like 10 hours to open up. If you guys are counting in media res as "dropping you in to gameplay" that's insane, it doesn't do that at all. The game is still teaching you new mechanics in to the second Palace.

It was a bit to get used to because I had just got off BoTW which was "here's your items now I'm going to give you no direction at all, go nuts"

>>376902536
Modern Persona takes a veeeeeery long time to open up and it takes ages for the plot to get anywhere. The Calendar system is a big contributor to this.

>>376910802
Still having tutorial popups isn't the same as being constrained like P4's intro.

You can actually do shit after the 2nd trip to based volleyball champion's Palace. There's pretty much nothing to do in P4 until Shadow Kanji is in play.

>>376902536
stop being a bitch and play the game and stop relying on others to form your opinion. if you have the time to invest in it do so if you dont like it move on

P4 is horrible. Play P5 instead.

>>376911257
>You can actually do shit after the 2nd trip to based volleyball champion's Palace
Wrong, you're allowed to do things only by the time Ann joins the party in the third trip. In P4 you're allowed to do whatever you want with your day after recruiting Chie.

>>376910275
Game is primarily being sold as a JRPG.
People mention it in the same breath as Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, so you'd expect more similiarities.

When I started it I absolutely didnt expect it to be 90% wanking around in class and 10% actual gameplay.

>>376908932
the one thing I hated about persona 4 was the party member social links. when you max out yosuke's link, his persona evolves, and he says I'm gonna be a better person, for this town and for my friends
then the very next day hes all "fuck you teddie, haha kanji's so gay"
like what the fuck

>>376912938
You should have looked up what persona games are like anon. It's your own fault. It has jrpg elements and is extremely popular right now of course it's going to be compared to those.

If you can't be bothered to research a game before you buy it you deserve to have you time and money wasted.

>>376912484
Except there's nothing to do after you recruit Chie.

I'm in the same boat as OP but I just don't like this game compared to P3 for lack of atmosphere, it's way too goofy/light-hearted and doesn't make up for it with charming characters, settings, or interactions lke Ace Attorney. This game is nothing interesting, it's basically just P3 in some backwater town with some scooby doo mystery going on in the background, total borefest. I mean P3 was as well but at least I could stand the cast until Aigis came in.

>>376913310
>look up gameplay
>people show off dungeons
>dungeons are barely 10% of the game
no its horseshit. game should be sold as a VN.

>>376902536

You got memed.

>>376913565
>look up game play
>they show what little actual game play the game has

How retarded are you man? Do you know nothing about advertising? Of course they show that off if they didn't it would be indistinguishable from another VN. It's a hybrid game, if you don't like the Vn dating sim part you're not going to like the game.

I don't know how anyone doesn't realize this is what persona is. Did you never question all the waifu threads? It's cause you get to know them and date them and shit that's a major premise of the game.

HOW ARE YOU THIS RETARDED.

>>376914208
All sorts of games get waifu threads.
Fucking Mario games get waifu threads.

Again: there is absolutely nothing on the surface level of Persona that makes it look like its 90% VN.
Every place calls it a JRPG.

I dont even know what you're trying to accomplish here because thats literally what its like.

And yeah, I wont like a game that pretends to be a game but ends up not being one.

who here /playingeasy/?

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>>376914506
You're talking like persona 4 is the only game or piece of media that's hypes it up in the trailers to look better/different then it actually is. Have you played any other video games? Ever been disappointed in a movie? You really know absoulutly NOTHING about marketing and advertising.

If it was advertised as 90% visual novel it would never get off the ground. Not to mention it's the 4th game in a series where the other games have been more or less the same thing.

You're old enough to post on this board you should be old enough to realize you have to make your own opinions for things and not base it off what you see in the media and trailers and what some hardcore fans hype it up to be (I say some because most of hardcore fans are in it for the dating sim and the game plays a bonus) There's tons of ways you could have figured this out without hurting your brain like this anon.

Also I totally forgot you can skip a lot of the social stuff and replay dungeons as much as you want so??

Fuck I feel like I'm talking to a 10 year old.

Also took me 5 minutes to find a description of the game that you probably should have read but somehow missed the persona wiki page

>>376913360
School club social links and yosuke and chie social links.

>>376916753
Yeah I made up my own opinion. Game is garbage and every single person talking about it lies.

> and replay dungeons as much as you want so??
why would anybody do that? you get to revisit every dungeon ONCE for the extra boss and then there is no reason to ever bother again.
fucking hell your arguments are so shit.

Also
>simulation
>VN
what a load of horseshit.

>>376907423
I mean this was inevitable anyway.

The series has grown exponentially more popular with each new installment, and as a natural result P5 is the biggest one yet. So now we have all these people who started with 5 and will now go back and try P4 and P3 and will just shit on them non-stop.

>>376907423
I want to feed Chie meat

>>376917307
Yeah I know you think the game is garbage. You're also retarded for thinking you would like it in the first place lol

Anyways enjoy the rest of highschool

>>376902536
about 10-12 hours in bud, it's worth it trust me

I can't believe there are people who still don't realise Persona 5 is the worst game in the series. I'm almost tempted to spend an afternoon writing an in depth essay about how awful P5 is.

>>376918327
Wrong thread? We're talking p4 here bud

Playing through P3P right now, right to the point where Akihiko has recovered. Do you ever hang out with your party members outside of Tartarus?

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>>376907423
It's a shame, because Persona 4 is a better game than Persona 5.

>Hey guys should i get persona 4? I hear everyone talking about it, my fav games are cod4, guitar hero, battlefeild, gta v, and minecraft, should i get this? Ive never played an rpg and i dont know what japan means
Ops post before buying persona 4

It doesnt.

>>376902536
>story based game has a long intro and lots of cutscenes

how new to vidya are you?

I've noticed online forums are really weirdly vocal about P3 being better than p4. The writing of that game was dogshit, I can't believe people defend p3.

p4 or p4g?

>>376902632
Not really. It's more like 70 hours of reading shitty dialogues and really bad JRPG dungeons.

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>>376918662
>because Persona 4 is a better game than Persona 5.
What did he mean by this?

>>376918214
All this angry spergery with no actual point.

>>376902536
Reading it is entertaining.

>>376918840
Persona 3 fans have an inferiority complex because their game is less popular than Persona 4, so they're more passionate about defending it online. They fit right in with the rest of the SMT fanbase, Persona 4 is the black sheep of the family and gets attacked from all sides. P3 fans, other spinoff fans and mainline fans.

>>376919036
>>376919036
So the paragraphs of points I provided before that post don't count :^) how btfo are you OP?

>>376918918

Why do you think posting one floor of a 10 floor dungeon proves anything? Are you autistic? Do you want me to cherry pick the worst parts of P5 dungeons too?

>>376918918
Dungeon design and gameplay are the only things Persona 5 does better than the previous two Persona games. 3 and 4 had better characters, a better story and better social links. Persona 5 will get heralded as the best, though, as it was released in the social media era and was the first Persona game for thousands of people.

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>>376919203
>passive agressive emotes admitting defeat
>accusations of me being OP
>sperging out over facts
and he just keeps on going.

>>376918918

Besides dungeons I preferred P4. P5 has similar writing problems that P3 had only not as bad. Good ideas but kind of bad execution, and everything after the first dungeon/arc was vastly inferior. Its like they spent ages on that first section, then half assed the rest, especially the final dungeon that was so bad with such easy puzzles, it insulted my intelligence.

Although overall it was a great game, definitely a fantastic HD entry, I'm hoping P6 doesn't play as safe and is overall a much better game.

>>376902536
I mean being good is subjective, but it gets actually properly free in maybe July so about 25 hours in, unless you did what I did and just grinded skill cards for a few hours

>>376919234
The 10 floor dungeon is literally composed of 10 procedurally generated hallways like that

>>376902903
Hey man I like Persona 1 too, but it's not a 10 at all
More like a 6 or 7 for average and kinda good

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>>376919260
So how can P4 be a better GAME when its GAMEplay is so fucking garbage?

>>376919268
It's hard to argue with someone who just goes 'lol nope' to all the arguments you post against him and calls his opinion facts.

>>376902664
Cool story emo faggot, P3 worse at every aspect than P4.

better pacing, better characters and better story compared to 5

>>376918840
>Largely dormant series gets new game that is a success to the point where a sequel is made on a tighter timetable by reusing a lot of assets from the previous game
P3 and P4 are basically the Japanese equivalents of Fallout 3 and New Vegas at this point. Some prefer one, others prefer the other but they're both vocal as fuck about it

>>376919260
>and better social links
Fuck no, most P3 social links were unmemorable dogshit save for 2 or 3. Social link quality in P5 is leagues above those.

>>376918840

For many it was their first persona game, it was mine too, so I understand why people love it and defend the game to death.

While I think the story is great, the gameplay was insufferable, I only play Persona 3 portable when the urge to replay persona hits, getting raped by the reaper or moon bosses because my party members were retarded was no fun in FES, and yes I knew how to use tactics, so shut your whore mouth with the retarded "dude just use tactics lmao" retarded argument.

P4 vanilla was not that different from P3 aside from the lighter story, Golden was the one who brought many improvements like costumes having their own separate slot, 8 new skills for each teammate and being able to pick which skill to delete, adachi S-link, one entire extra month of gameplay and a second persona evolution for your teammates.

Right now P3 its in a weird spot, not that different from P5, against Golden you can see that both games are lacking in events and improvements, people can shit on P4 all they want, but Golden feels much more "complete" as a game than P3 and P5, this is why you often find people joking about atlus making Persona 3: Velvet and Persona 5: Crimson, both games need a remake.

>>376919704
>dont trust reviews
>dont trust gameplay vids
>dont trust actual game fans
>you can just redo the same content infinitely
>arguments
fuck off already

>>376919816
Say what you want about Yaldy, he didn't come out of as nowhere as Izanami

>>376919505
I mean, it's not like Persona 4 is unplayable. P5 is only marginally better and it's all just turnbased anyways which can only get so good. The point is in a game that's going to take you 50+hours to complete and is mostly story+character interaction gameplay isn't the most important part of the discussion here. You can have an all day session of playing Persona 5 and not do any dungeon crawling.

Persona 5's story is the worst it's ever been for this series, the cast has the same problem as the P4 cast where they have no agency and would be completely lost without the MC, except this time they don't suck your dick as much. None of them develop as characters. The game could have ended with Shido but for whatever reason you always have to fight God(although to be honest the final boss fight might have ended up being an excuse for why the Shadow Operatives couldn't have just solved everything). The Confidants all end up being exactly the same, you get to know them a little, they reveal they have a comically evil person oppressing them, you go in to Mementos and beat them and they're happy about it The End.

>>376903630
I literally came here just to post this sentiment. P2 is trash, and the story is nowhere NEAR as good as p2 fags make it out to be in the slightest. Poor pacing, elements of the story going unused for a long while, elements that POORLY mesh with the gameplay and events happening on screen, "repressed memories". All this so they can push "lol hitler is a boss in a Japanese game isn't that weird!" as a meme.

P2 should be officially removed and replaced with PQ.

>>376920054
Sure he did. The game would have ended on a better note if you finished it after Shido, the game builds it up as a super emotional fight with all but two of your party members being directly connected to him in some way, the music is hype as fuck and very fitting for the battle. Then you beat him and the game goes "Ok, fight God now"

I'm pretty sure Yaldabaoth was only added to the game to explain why this entire thing wasn't just solved by The Shadow Operatives, that's a military grade unit designed specifically to fight this type of thing but they end up doing absolutely nothing. Yaldabaoth was added because realistically Mitsuru and her gang can do nothing about him since they don't have a protagonist.

>>376902536

That's what Persona 3-5 is. Try Persona 1 and 2. They and 3-5 are so different that they're essentially different series.

>>376920026
>Persona 5: Crimson
> both games need a remake.
people joke about P5C because at this point it happening is a given, every Persona game had a remake (two in P3's case). it's not because P5 needs it.

>>376902536
The introduction to P4 is about 5 hours, after you get Chie and start Yukiko's dungeon thats when the game actually begins so strap on for a lot of dialogue.

>>376920054
you meet Izanami in forst 10 minutes of the game, she showed up everytime it was raining and your starting persona was Izanagi
Sure, it's not much but that's still more than Yaldy had

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>>376907423
Nah man, P4 is very good but the introduction is just overly ling but when it gets its groove then its great.
Now, P5 is just very good, I felt like everything you do in the game gives you advantages in gameplay and all SLinks are great for the most part while in P4 a lot were very boring (the basketball guys, the drama club ugly chick, the kid, the dead girl's brother, the milf and the Fox).

>>376902536
Play one of the good ones instead.

P4 is the most bland of the 3 "Nu persona" games, if you wanna play Jojo's Bizarre Adventure but shit then keep going ahead but its just so tropey and full of mediocrity.

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>>376920084
>Persona 5's story is the worst it's ever been for this series
That's 4 though.

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>>376920524
Realistically a lot of the stuff people wanted added to the game can't be fit in anyways.

>Sae romance link
Pretty much impossible to add unless you're supposed to do it while she's interrogating you. You're completely changing how the game works if they add the ability to see her in person.

>FeMC
This would mess up the narrative and would need a ton of brand new social links(or a ton of yuri options) as there's a severe lack of males to romance in this game.

>More time
Unlike Persona 3 and 4 this isn't really needed, it isn't anywhere near as hard to max everything as it is in the previous two games and it would be hard to find time to squeeze shit in anyways. Like I suppose they could give you the last month of the game before you leave to socialize, but that ends the game on a rather weird note. Actually on second thought it wouldn't even be possible because you destroyed Mementos and the only confidant I can think of that doesn't require a trip there is Tora.

There's also not a whole lot more QOL changes left to be made to the current system, the next game in the series might have a completely different battle system at this point, but that's the next game. It isn't something they'd do for a re-release.

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>>376910049

>hipster cred
>contrarians
>overrate

Enjoy your stay.

>>376920859
It's amazing how he inspires so much without actually saying anything of meaning.
He truly is an excellent politician.

>>376918840
P3 was my first persona game and i love that shit, even tartarus and the answer was great. The last few month was baller. Never had problems with party AI either.
Played P4 and i absolutely loath that game, shit story and characters other than adachi.
P5 had great waifus.

>>376921278
I'll agree with the points this post makes sans Kanji and Naoto, who I think do actually face real problems. They're just bigger in Japanese society than in ours.

>>376920084
>and it's all just turnbased anyways which can only get so good
fuck off

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>>376921278
Adachi is bad, Akechi is worse.

>I killed countless people and changed the lives for the worse of many others, including the parents of two of the people in this party
>However you should feel sorry for me because waaaah, my dad doesn't love me!
>I get to "die" a fucking hero with the people who should be hating my guts telling me to get to join them and that I'm considerably more intelligent than they are(even though I'm not, I'm not even a real detective and got caught because "DUDEILOVEPANCAKES!")

>>376921278
Naoto worried about not getting respect as a female in a male dominated workplace is definitely a real world problem, and arguably a lot harder to deal with than anything Adachi went through. (Though nepotism and a shit ton of cash definitely helped Naoto through her problems.)

>>376921407
Truly the wonders of max speech and max charisma.

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>>376921606
>Killing Okumura
>Bad
>Implying if given the chance I wouldn't have Akechi kill her fiancee as well
>Implying it was Akechi who kill Futaba's mom when would have been something like 9 at the time
Baka desu. Akechi much like Adachi did nothing wrong.

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>>376921606
Don't bully pancakes.

>>376921309

Hmm, the feMC could romance akihiko, shinjiro, ken and theodore, in P5 she would romance Ryuji, yusuke, Morgana who would probaly get a male human form just for this, and the new male attendant.

I think right now P5 needs more events where your party members hang out and are just friends, without having the phantom thief stuff being talked about every five seconds, right now almost every event devolves into Ryuji screaming "s-shitty adutls! We wuz phantom thieves" and everyone else telling him to shut up.

>>376921278
and what does Adachi know about real problems? He wanted to be a cop so he could carry a gun and he became one, in fact he was an elite detective meaning he had to be talented but fucked up and was moved to Inaba, apparently talent isn't everything.
IT never claimed their problems were the worst things in the world, Adachi however tried to destroy humanity because he couldn't get laid.

Naoto had a real problem and actually did suffer from people not taking her seriously, and it wasn't even just because of the female thing it was her age. Even though everyone thought she was male she still had a ton of people not giving her any respect because the adults in this field didn't like getting shown up by some runt kid. This is why I find Akechi extremely annoying because everyone in the entire game sucks his cock and he's an important member of the police force. I realize he has Shido's influence behind him but you'd think SOMEONE would think he's cocky or something. The only character I came across who acknowledged Akechi but didn't heap praise on him afterwards is Ohya. That's ONE character in a 100 hour+ game.

You can argue that Naoto paved the way for him a little, but adults not liking kids showing them up is a human condition. Even if Naoto has already done it that feeling wouldn't go away.

>>376921606

I can actually relate myself a little to adachi and akechi, if I got a superpower like that no doubt I would use it to get rich and live high and free, but I dont think I would so far as to kill people for fun.

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>>376921940
Futaba was killed a year and a half before the games events. Akechi would have been 15 years old. I think people the idea that it was longer ago because of the way Futaba was acting around her when she retells some memories of her mom, but people have to remember that Futaba is very emotionally stunted and acts like a child a lot of the time. There's a reason why there's so many pictures of Makoto comforting her and and being concerned about her. It's because Makoto is a "mom" character and Futaba's the baby of the group.

>>376902536
the part where it begins

>>376922398
Futaba's mom, sorry.

I'm about to replay the game on NG+ so I think I'll screenshot the part where it's mentioned.

>>376922095

I think its more that Adachi is not that much of a social guy, in any work you need to have contacts, people who can open doors for you, and that means sometimes tolerating people who are insufferable both inside and outside of work.

Even if you talent you are still going to get fucked if you dont know how to work with people, I know people in the real world who are talented but got passed up in promotions or good jobs because some unskilled fuckwit was friends with the manager or something, for someone like Adachi who was already barely a shell of a human being long before he came to inaba, that would be a real hurdle.

>>376907423
Wait for the dust to settle and 5 will become this places least favourite.

>>376922398
Yeah akechi started working with Shido 2 years before the start of the game and he was the only person Shido had that could go into the metaverse.

>>376921407
you have to remember that he got humbled after experiencing the corruption of being a politician and decided he didn't want part of it anymore

>>376907423
That's because normalfags don't go back and play older games they only play new releases.

>>376922670
I guess the thing is that Adachi is acting like a child, however he isn't really that wrong either? He has a point but it's his own fault he's in his position. It's much better than Akechi, either way.

I don't like the cast of persona 5. All the characters would fit better in a children's show

One thing I'll give Persona 5 is that it was insanely good at hyping the player up.

>The fight against Akechi was pretty hype leading up to it even if it was shit after
>The entire fight against Shido and the music(sucks that they reused it against Holy Grail, it should have been Shido's alone)
>The Phansite meter hitting 100% and everyone in Tokyo cheering you on, ends with Satan shooting God in the head(even though you really didn't need this entire fight in the game it was pretty good theatrically)

>>376908932
>Difficulty range

P4 is really terrible at it. Once you have Aoe and heal spells that heals for full then the game is stupid easy. yukiko and mitsuo are your difficulty spikes. shadow naoto is the easiest boss in the fucking game.

>>376922095
>IT never claimed their problems were the worst things in the world
yeah, in fact they all tried to ignore their feelings and pretend everything is fine, which is the entire fucking reason you end up fighting their Shadows. Whoever wrote that is retarded.

>>376923035
>He has a point
He does and the problem is that no one from the Investigation Team could even begin to make a compelling counterpoint because they can't even relate to the point he is making in the first place. The whole encounter was silly.

>>376923719
the only people in IT who had any sort of talent were Rise and Naoto, both of which were actually miserable because of it. Everyone else was completely unremarkable (reminder that Yosuke is a wagecuck at what is basically a Japanese Walmart) and in the end content with their lives. Talent isn't everything and you really don't need it to be happy.
and as of P4G, Adachi did have a super special and unique transfer student(one that was also miserable before he came to town despite being a super special snowflake) come into his life. Guess what he did with that opportunity? He spent the entire year lying to him and then tried to shoot him one last time the kid tried to reach out to him. You can't help people who don't want to be helped. Adachi was so wraped up into his beliefs, he refused to see anything past them, which was also kinda the fucking theme of the game.
Anon for fucks sake you spent a year with those people, did you just mindlessly rank up their social links only to get that trophy?

>>376924972
>only to get that trophy?
PS2 didn't have trophies.

>>376925262
Vita does, and this is still kinda a P4G thread.

I started playing P4 golden and P5 at roughly the same time and I have to say like P4 way more.
Besides some things being a little more convenient and having really good combat, P5 doesn't really have much on P4.

>>376925583
it has way better character designs, that's for sure

>>376902810
>I'm beginning to think I was tricked.
You were. It's a dating sim with some JRPG elements slipped in. I hope you didn't pay full price.

>>376923336
I couldn't get hype for P5's ending, Yaldybababa in his entirety was like experiencing a ruined orgasm. P3's judgement day still remains to be my favorite vidya finale.

>>376926895
This. Everything past Shido felt rushed even though it obviously wasn't.
Also the credits song was nowhere near as good as Memories of You (though I kinda expected that since it's basically Elder God tier) or even Never More. Hell, I'd probably put Changing Me above it too.

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>>376902536
>I'm 2 and a half hours in

>>376908660
>P4 is a step down in every quality from P3
nice meme

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>>376905965
SMT is for intellectuals that want to fuck up their vision.

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>>376907423
That's always been the consensus. The only good thing to come out of persona 4 was Adachi and they still managed to fuck that up in arena.

>>376927881
You'll get your 3D demon models from P5 for the next SMT game, and you'll be happy with it. They might even make one or two new ones.

>>376902536
>Friend dies in battle
>Revival bead it's fine
>Mc about to die
>It will be ok, revival bead
>Game over 2 hours down the drain

>Pick it up again a week later
>Mc always at full health no matter what, not dealing with this garbage again
>Weird fish thing fears the mc
>He's at full health nbd I'll finish the fish with the other party members
>Fish used spell that insta kill feared people
>Another wasted hour

I think I'm done desu. Idk how jrpg fans can enjoy this

>>376928497
Sounds like you got your ass kicked in a fucking persona game of all things.

>>376921278
A large part of the conflict has nothing to do with the severity of their problems and everything to do with them pretending they don't exist. That's what makes the characters so relatable. Adachi is a manifestation of this conflict and why the TV world took such a liking to him. He murders two people and then has the gall to justify himself and blame society. A society he gave up on then believes he has the right to destroy it. Face it Adachi was delusional and if you relate to him you are the exact type of person the game takes issue with.

>>376928717
Kys cuck I bet you enjoy wasting your time figuring out obtuse design choices.

>>376928909
You're the one wasting time crying about your incompetence on an image board instead of getting better.

>>376929174
Sorry but getting better is more than losing a game from something impossible to predict without reading a guide. You know, the thing you read to "get good" at turn based rpgs.

>everyone says the gameplay being shit is fine because it's about the story
>the story is awful

Explain this

>>376930147
P4 never gets praised for its story. It's just a pretty competent feel-good slice of life sim.

>>376930631
Speak for yourself you hiveminding faggot.

>>376928295
It's full cycle anyways considering P3 and 4 use Nocturne's 3d models

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>>376928497
>can't beat a persona game

>>376930814
>Can't get a job

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>>376928497

>>376930723
I've never seen someone make a post here saying they love the story. The characters or interactions maybe, but who the fuck has ever praised the story of a godly gas station attendant trying to watch the world burn by giving someone the power to use a TV as a trash can?

>>376931201
>Replied 6 seconds later
Struck a nerve huh

Well, I'm on my second playthrough in the game, first i got bad ending 3, now I'm using a social link walkthrough, 48% personas registered, good as so far

>>376902536
It gets good when my wife Rise appears.

>>376918608

>Do you ever hang out with your party members outside of Tartarus?

Yeah, during summer break

I loved Persona 4 (only have it on PS2) but I couldn't ever beat the last last boss, the secret one. I keep telling myself to do it. To this day I still haven't watched the true end. I remember that the ending I did get tore me up. Yu just gets on the train and leaves.

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Persona 3 has more style, better music and a few good waifus

Persona 4 has style but no good music and great waifus

>>376902735
>hard-on for Chie
maybe in the undub, I have no idea how people who played it dubbed could like her. Both versions of her english voice is fucking atrocious.

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>>376932661
Yuuka best waifu

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>>376933342

Fuuka is literally the Rei of the Persona series and this is not a compliment.

She's a wall my man

>>376921606

P5 completely botched Akechi which is a shame. I hope if they do P5: Crimson or whatever they re-examine him.
That was one of my only complaints about P5. That and I kept waiting for Shadow Morgana fight...

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>>376934220
actually, this is literally the Rei of the Persona series.

>>376921278
>adachi
HUR DUR I GOT A GUN CUS ITS COOL HUR DUR GIRLS DONT SUDDENLY LIKE ME! I KNOW ILL MURDER PEOPLE AND AC ALOOF! WHY AM I SO MISERABLE! FUCK YOU KIDS YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ADULT ISSUES OR PROBLEMS.
Everyone has problems and they are important to themselves untill they are solved which creates new problems. If you have nothing to worry about you will infact just create them out of nothing because you dont have the stress to ignore small shit. BUT HUR DUR IMA MURDER PEOPLE AND DA WORLD CUS IM NOT HAPPY.
Seriously /v/ you guys are fucking fags who believe you are justified in everything because you feel abit depressed

>>376921278
That post is just downsizing the main cast issues:
>Yosuke is the new rich kid in town whose family is putting everyone else families jobs in jeopardy so a lot of people hate him
>Yukiko is expected to inheirt a business that she might not like. She's trapped in her family expectations
>Chie is overshadowed by her best friend and feels that shes nothing w/o her
>Rise is afraid that her image is being turned into something she does not want

You might not see them as real problems but they are more fucking relatable to a lot of stuff in the other games.

>>376907423
The only thing going for P5 is the combat and dungeons. Story has many moments were either the good guys or/and the bad guys act like retards. Especially during Okamura and afterwards.

Additionally, even if the combat is good its fucking limited by fucking retarded stuff. The calendar fucks the party members you have and how useful they can be. I can't fucking believe that in the case of Yusuke and Haru you can't start their fucking SL after about a fucking month of recruiting them. They are practically useless for a month.

>>376935781
>in the case of Yusuke and Haru you can't start their fucking SL after about a fucking month of recruiting them.
This was the reason why I didn't even use Haru for her own dungeon. Why would I bother when I could get someone who can already baton pass?

>>376928497
>Game over 2 hours down the drain
Use a Goho you dumb bitch. Or stop being bad at a Persona and use buffs.

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>>376902903
>P1
>10/10
This is either bating or pure fucking delusion

>>376936757
because there's a lot of shit weak to psi

>>376937015
Uh oh looks like we got a jrpg pro over here. I'm glad your 1000s of hours in jrpgs finally paid off slut boi.

>>376902536

>/v/tard buys game it already thinks is shit because its popular
>plays game looking for flaws to reinforce prejudice
>plays 2 hours of a 80+ hour JRPG

Go back to playing non-shit games, OP.

>>376937350
Stop being mad because you're bad.

So i've never even played a persona or SMT game, but i've always been intrigued by persona 4 (although i dont like how the characters looks like toys most of the time with their big heads) and now i really want to try persona 5 (which looks great to me)
But i have a few questions:
1) should i play p4 or jump straight to p5? (i fear that if i play 5 first 4 will just be unplayable because i would have been spoiled by the combat, but if i play 4 before im afraid the "tricks" of the persona franchise will just feel reused in 5, since ive heard that every new installment is basically the same story and characters every time)
2) should i play the undub version of p4g?
3) is there a jap audio option for 5?
4) should i play on easy/use a save editor in persona 4 if i just want to enjoy the game and not get frustrated on the proberbial 5 gorillion hp battles with one shot kills that jrpgs always pull?

>>376937746
>He thinks jrpg takes skill
Loving every laugh.

>>376937979
1. Going back to Persona 4 should be fine if you play P5 first, you'll have more of a problem going back to P3, though.
2. If you'd like to, go for it. Persona 4's english voice acting isn't the greatest
3. Yes, it's a free download
4. I'd recommend playing the game, it isn't really that difficult.

>>376937979
>since ive heard that every new installment is basically the same story and characters every time
stop listening to /v/ shitposting
>should i play the undub version of p4g?
you're not missing much with the dub
>is there a jap audio option for 5?
yes and it's great except for a few minor things they didn't sub
>should i play on easy/use a save editor in persona 4 if i just want to enjoy the game and not get frustrated on the proberbial 5 gorillion hp battles with one shot kills that jrpgs always pull?
ohko's are rare and battles end fast when you know what you're doing.

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>>376933342
*Fuuka

>>376934220
Rei and Fuuka are nothing alike

>>376922060
>Morgana who would probaly get a male human form just for this
That is absolutely absurd.

>>376937979
1)I think you should be fine
2)I felt dub is ok but I don't care about it too much
3)Yes
4)I consider persona games relatively easier compared to other SMT games, the main issue difficulty wise is that if MC then its Game Over

>>376938248
It does apparently because you suck at a JRPG.

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>>376938376
>>376938415
>>376938517
>Dub is bad

>>376934220
The Rei in Persona 3 is Aigis. Persona 3 basically steals Evangelion's basic premise too. Inb4 "No, that's DeSu2"anon shows up. As if Atlus didn't steal it twice, more literally with DeSu2.

>>376938710
I think Persona 5's dub gets too much shit(although this is probably more due to the fact that the JP cast is star studded) but the dubs for P4 and P3 are pretty mediocre. Especially Chie.

>>376938710
how does
>you're not missing much with the dub
mean
>Dub is bad

dumb satania poster

>>376938921
Nier as Sojiro is far better than whatever hack did him in the Jap version.

>>376938809
She's not the Rei because Aigis still goes through character development (her battle dialogue literally changes over the course of the game to reflect this). Rei was just fapfuel all the way through. She didn't even have a reason to be the voice Shinji hears during EoE but she's there because reasons.

>>376932661
>ken's fucking face

>>376939446
he's standing behind his true love.

>>376939446
The face when he finds out the game gives him a social link with obligatory sex in FeMC route.

Its funny how if atlus made Door-kun fuck a loli they would probably never hear the end of it.

>>376928497
THE REAL PERSONA STARTS HERE

>>376912938
>JRPGs like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest don't involve hours of talking

So what you're really saying is you don't understand the genre you selected to play because you're mentally handicapped?

>>376930147
Gameplay is fantastic, battles can last 10 seconds if you use weaknesses and all out attacks.

>>376939840
If it's so then SMT IV's better than Nocturne because battles last exactly 5 fucking seconds if you hit weakness

It's not

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>>376920026
>You will never suck at P3 this hard
>You will never suck at a game so hard that people continuously tell you to use a mechanic that you're ignoring
>You will never get so assblasted by people telling you how to play the game that you preemptively try to dismiss it as "bad advice"
>You will never destroy your own credibility in a single post so hard.

Just use the tactics, faggot. Literally everyone else in the world that isn't you used them and they got through just fine.

>>376902536
>He falled for the P4 is good bait
kek enjoy your slice of life anime boy

When you stop being a fucking autist and make your own decisions. You could've easily researched what the game is before you downloaded it. Instead you decided to be a fucking retard and make a shitty thread on /v/. Congratulations anon, you have now discovered the concept of tastes and maybe now you'll finally realize that people with taste different from yours exist.

>>376921278
This picture and the argument within has been debunked so many times, I'm amazed it still gets posts.

>>376940210
Never used tactics except for against Nyx and I got through it just fine.
Persona games aren't hard in the slightest nor do they need to be.

>>376939446
the face of a traitor

>>376940457
Did you use the starting party? Because I did too and they generally weren't retarded even when doing their own thing. No Mitsuru Marin Karin moments for me.

>>376928497
>Ugh, is this game CHALLENGING me? How could there be a portion of the game that's there specifically not to be fun solely for me at my own skill level?
>I shouldn't have to improve, the game should come down to my level!

What are you, a woman?

>>376940620
I did 99% of the game with MC, Yukari, Mitsuru and Akihiko. Used Junpei for one of the later bosses in Tartarus and when Akihiko wasn't in your party.
Even when Mitsuru uses Marin Karin it never led to a moment that would directly lead to me getting a Game Over, the Once More system is very generous with how you spend turns compared to say Turn Press and like I said these games don't gain anything by being difficult as its not the focus of the games so streamlining the Turn Press so that battles are over much faster is a good decision in my opinion.

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>>376940218
>he got rused by the P4 is bad meme I made

I got this game spoiled for me years ago when I was somewhere around the second or third dungeon. Now after finishing 5 and really liking it, I kinda have the itch for more Persona and 4 is the only one I haven't played aside from the very first, even though I feel like it'll probably be frustrating to play through a murder mystery story when you already know who the murderer is.

Should I just play through it anyway? I do kinda miss Chie, she was a qt.

>>376937979
1. P5 is its own separate existence minus a few subtle nods. If you're interested in P4, I highly recommend starting with P3 instead. You'll appreciate the quality improvements as the games get higher. Ignore P2/1. They're not even really in the same timeline anymore.
2. If you wanna play P4, I actually recommend the PS2 version. P4G adds a lot of good gameplay adjustments, but for every good gameplay adjustments it makes, it makes three really awful story/fanservice sections that are juxtaposed with the tone of the rest of the game.
3. Actually, yes, I believe so.
4. Yeah, go straight on Easy. Persona isn't about how big ya balls are. You might miss out on one or two discussions about how hard certain bosses are though, so just keep that in mind when you want to discuss it.

>>376902536
spoiler people play these to pretend theyre a japanese highschooler who has friends and is good with ladies. no one gives a shit about the gameplay and thats your first mistake.

>>376940924
Already played it kid, its trash, yes. Just like your opinion
>Bad gameplay
>Bad story
>Bad characters
>Trash dungeons
So you can either give me some free (you)s or fuck off and hug some of your waifu pillows

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>>376941410
>he fell for the meme THIS HARD

>>376902536
Depends on whether you're an /r9k/-tier beta or not. If you are, you'll love P4's empty highschool wish fulfillment simulation.

>>376941115

Yeah, it kinda sucks because there are going to be huge sections of dialog going "Huuurrr I wonder who the murderererer is??", but there are a few twists and surprises that you'll still get shocked by. Definitely worth it.

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>>376941368
>it makes three really awful story/fanservice sections
Reminder.

>>376908932

>comparing an enhanced port of a game riding off the same engine to what is essentially the same game.

Opinion discarded.

Persona 3 has a better story, characters that don't kiss ass, a less retarded tone, and no mascot. On top of that what "Gameplay variety" are we talking about you mongoloid. It's a dungeon crawler and virtually the same game as Persona 3 with some minor tweaks.

It is like four hours before you actually get to do shit.

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>anons still pretend P5's cast was good

Kek

>>376941623
>huge sections of dialog going "Huuurrr I wonder who the murderererer is??"
Yeah this is my expectation and concern, but I can probably trudge through it if the *entire* plot doesn't hinge upon this one revelation. Plus there's plenty of social links and character development I never got around to during my brief time with the game so I suppose that'll make it more tolerable as well.

Thanks for the input.

>>376942260
If you can call what you actually do in this game "doing shit". It's telling that the best version of the game, golden, also takes out even more "gameplay" elements.

>>376902536
P3FES and P5 are better. P4G is good but the weakest in the series

>>376942587
>but I can probably trudge through it if the *entire* plot doesn't hinge upon this one revelation
It does. Until you reach the true ending, which is a colossal asspull.

>>376941623
>spoil yourself on who the murderer is
>hurr why don't these characters have advance knowledge like I do?!?!?

>>376942742
>spoil yourself on who the murderer is
I didn't, actually. I had literally just finished playing Persona 3 FES, and I found a thread that specifically said "Persona 3 thread!" and someone posted the spoiler within the first 2 posts.

So fuck you, SMT fans.

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>>376942918
>going into a Persona 3 thread and not expecting people to talk about other games in said series

>>376942918
>going into a /v/ thread

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>>376902536
>It's an anon can't do his own research before buying a game and just gets it because it's popular on /v/ and ends up being disappointed because he couldn't spend 20 minutes of his time to find out that Persona 4 is basically a VN with dungeon crawling episode

>>376942918
Don't go to 4chan if you don't want to get spoiled.

>>376931186
wow edgy nice comeback kid, here have le 100 internet points XD

>>376943624
>calling someone a kid when you dont have a job

>>376943624
Thanks have some Reddit gold fellow neet XDD

Clearly this game isn't for you. You really must like anime and VN's to enjoy persona as a series. The gameplay is almost secondary, but deep enough to make it a good game in its own right.

>>376902903
Persona 1 might be the worst JRPG I've ever played. Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter was appalingly bad and doesn't hold a candle to it. Final Fantasy II, Unlimited SaGa, and The Last Remnant are all shit and still miles better than it.

I mean I guess I at least played through it unlike Quest 64 which I couldn't stomach for more than 40 minutes, but for all I know there could be content past that timespan in Q64 that made it more redeeming than that piece of ungodly shit

>>376943763
>talking about jobs, as a baseless insult.
i do have a job but i fail to see how is that relevant in this fucking thread

>>376944293
McDonald's is not a job

Persona 4 does start to get a bit better after completing the first dungeon but seriously goes downhill after confronting the murderer.

Persona 4 only picks up when you get to Rise's dungeon in my opinion, but Rise's dungeon is also really boring in my opinion

>>376918840
I'm play P3 after P5 and it holds up very well. The story is actually slightly interesting unlike P4, and the main cast is way better.

>>376947030
>The story is actually slightly interesting
how far in are you?

>>376921309
Honestly I think you could get away with genderswaping a few of the non party members without too much issue for a femMC route. Tae and ohya being the main ones I can think of.

>>376902903
Persona started with 3 bag licker, deal with it

>>376932661
I disagree, Persona 4 has some good songs and no good waifus.

>>376947207
Around 50 hours.

>>376913179
>Adachi is a manifestation of this conflict and why the TV world took such a liking to him
They're actually all total dicks to Teddie and Kanji past the point of banter in the game. I have no idea why.

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>>376932661
>persona 4 has no good music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2GdldWBpVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KMWmj0hHk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IORp_o7bnvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLESWPUnVss

>>376941665
OH HEY IT'S MARIE MARIE IS SO GREAT GUYS OH LOOK THE REST OF THE GANG IS HERE HERE WITH MARIE, MARIE IS A GREAT PERSON

>>376948993
Whoops, you know what I meant to quote.

>>376939840
Well yeah every single battle is a joke in Golden. Especially when the game is designed so optimum play is to stick with a couple of the no weakness persona's decked out where their stats will eclipse anything else you can fuse within the hour.

>>376902536
I was annoyed by how fucking long the intro to the game is as well, but it ends I think 2 or 3 hours into the game, then you get even more freedom to do things than in Persona 3.

20 hours in myself, I really really like it I can see why some people would prefer over Persona 3, but I'll reserve my judgement until I finish it.

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Sigh i wish they actually made Dojima the main villain

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>>376902901
>>376932790
Lucky me then, playing it undubbed and Chie is fucking best.

>>376951559
I think her voice in P4G is fine. It's a little annoying, but it does suit her. Her original voice is terrible, it's phoned in and it doesn't fit her.

>>376949570
And whenever Marie isn't on the screen, all of the other characters should be asking: "Where's Marie?"

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>people arguing whether P3 or P4 is better
P3 has Akihiko and DA MAN, obviously it's better. Hello??

Should I play FES or P3P?

>>376953896
FES then P3P

>>376905965
I was really excited when I first played P5 and you already started the game in a dungeon, I thought there would be no bullshit 6 hours long intro. How wrong I was.

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Tomboys are for ____

>>376953896
>>376953963
this
P3P has some things over FES and vice versa, overall your first experience should be FES and then if you want to you can play P3P FeMC route.

>>376953857
P3 does have DA MAN, but that's the only noteworthy character. Akihiko is fine, but nothing special. I'm convinced the only reason he's so popular are are his English VA and the memes.

>>376955205
>DA MAN
Why the hell do you guys even like him, he literally fell for a suicidal goth chick that followed revolver Jesus as he tried to end the world and then ended up with muh feelz,

>>376955854
Vorpal Blade + passive HP regen

>Yosuke sucks
>Teddy sucks
>Chie sucks
>Yukiko is meh
>the rest of the party, aka the back half of the game, are actually good
Why slog through so much shit?

>no demon negotiation
>no guns
>procedurally generated hallways
How about NO?
If the game won't put effort into my enjoyment then it obviously doesn't want to be played.

>>376955854
he's a better friend than yosuke. i mean he does get pissed at you a lot but thats because fighting is the only thing hes good at and you're much better. hes actually believable. Yosuke just slobs on your knob like corn on the cob the second you pull him out of his home (the trash can)

>>376960228
To be fair about Yosuke, you do save his life, and he's also literally gay for you so that explains why he's so eager to go along with you.

>>376955854
nigga he's your homie
you pick up girls with him
he apologizes for the mistakes he has made
damn, he even wishes you luck with your waifu (If she is in the party)

>>376959875
I'm sorry maybe SMT1 for the SNES is more up your alley

>>376959687
>Yosuke sucks
>Chie sucks
>Yukiko is meh
How does it feel to have shit taste?

>>376907423
That's been a thing since it came out, it dumbed down 3's gameplay.

>>376910526
>10 people are 50% of the characters in game
Stop being retarded anon.

>>376955205
>Akihiko
>6 foot tall beefcake who is also in the top 10 of his classes
>Popular because of memes

I think you're under estimating how many women play persona.

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>>376954104

>>376926848
This. Persona is borderline off-topic here.